Tonight, we are going back to the world of Redneck.
We've got Tony with us.
Tony, how are you doing?
I am doing well.
How is everybody?
Unfortunately, we're the only two here,
so I think we're doing good.
Excellent, excellent.
Okay, we're gonna talk some more Redneck racing
and kind of what you've been up to
and everything from there.
You ready to get into this?
Yeah, let's go ahead and get right into it.
Episode 333.
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B Squad is at its core, a round table discussion
of the four of us who are admittedly rank amateurs
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Four states.
Three time zones.
Two sets of brothers.
Once a week of a meet and bolt of hot rods.
For B Squad Hot Rod, this is Lefty.
This is Train.
This is Hollywood.
And this is Woodchuck.
Because A Squad has a TV show.
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that's your fault, not ours.
All right, Tony.
So tell me, how have things been going this year?
Well, this year we've kind of taken
a little bit of a pause.
We're just having this one race this year
for World of Redneck,
which is the best race that we have every year,
which is our Halloween race.
Exciting things about that one is
we highly encourage costumes
for both the drivers and the cars.
Oh perfect, I love it.
Yeah, exactly.
You can come up with a whole theme.
We've had like Pennywise and stuff like that in the past
and like somebody painted a Honda Accord
like the misery machine.
They dressed up as Fred and Daphne.
And of course, spectators are also highly encouraged
to wear costumes
because we don't wanna just make fools of ourselves.
We wanna bring everybody else into it with us, so.
I love it.
All right, tell us about the race
for those that didn't listen to the episode
you were on last year.
And then we'll get into the fun we had last year
and what we're looking forward to this year.
Yeah, we're extremely excited
to have this race coming this year.
There's been a whole lot of,
I'll say pent-up aggression to come and put this one with us.
Only having this one race happening,
but yeah, the race is called the Pist-In Cup.
Play on words with the movie cars Pist-In Cup,
but yeah, it is the Pist-In Cup.
And this is what we have found
to be the best shipbox rally-cross race
that there is hopefully in the U.S.
But we've had people from Hoop-de-Cross come out
and say we do a better and stuff
and I'm gonna go ahead and hold on to that
and say they're absolutely right,
even if they're not, they're right.
But anyways, so the idea behind it
is just shipbox cars, it's horrible cars
that you're gonna come out
and you're gonna race without giving a shit about the car.
So we have a guideline essentially saying $500 cars,
but really nothing in this world is $500 anymore.
So I mean, just so long as you bring something out
that you know is gonna get beat up,
you do have to take the windows and glass
out of the car with the exception of the windshield.
If we need to have window nets,
if you don't have a window net,
we do essentially duct tape and zip tie some snow fence
on your car just to make sure that limbs are staying
in the event of a rollover.
That's kind of the thing is it comes with the territory
and that is a good thing to know
is so you prepare your car accordingly.
Obviously seat belts are mandatory
and a DOT approved helmet
and I can't believe I have to say a DOT approved helmet
because we have had someone in the past show up
and race wearing his firefighter helmet.
So I mean...
Yeah, I wish Train were here
so we could give him a hard time.
Train wasn't the one who did it,
but he is a firefighter, so.
Yeah, it's one of those people like,
well, I would have hoped you would have known better
but that said a low bar.
Yeah, and the really nice thing is
those rules essentially make it
so anybody can come play, right?
You don't have to dish out thousands and thousands
and thousands of dollars upgrading car
that you probably already spent four or five figures on.
And that's the whole idea behind world redneck
in the Piston Cup in general
is help make racing affordable for the everyday person
because even, you know, 24 hours of lemons,
you know, by the time you're all said and done
with your car and your safety equipment
and all that stuff,
you're, you know, five grand, $7,500 into a $500 car.
So the whole idea behind it
is to actually make racing cheap.
And, you know, that's the thing is
on top of everyday people that we have coming out,
we also have some people
that are some genuine professionals in racing
and it's really cool to watch, you know,
ordinary people come out and compete against these people
that literally live, you know, by racing, drifting,
drag racing, SCCA stuff, all that kind of stuff,
you know, genuine licensed professionals.
And, you know, we have some just straight
frickin' rednecks come out and compete with these guys
and make them run and oftentimes lose against them.
So it's pretty impressive.
You never know who you're gonna line up against
and you never know just how well you can do
against these people.
But that said, you know, this race
is not about coming out and winning.
This race is coming out and having frickin' fun.
You gotta go out there
and you gotta just, you know, let all out there,
not give a shit about your car
and just send it, you know.
The crowd loves it.
I love it, you know, sittin' on top of my tabletop.
But, you know, that's kind of the thing
is the beauty behind the race
is essentially preservation
because you can drive your car easy and lose
or you could drive the hell out of it
and hope the damn thing holds together.
That's, that is fair.
Why don't you go ahead and describe the track
and kind of some of the things
that usually take competitors out
because I don't think we've touched on that yet
because this is an oval track racing.
Oh, absolutely not.
This is a purpose-built rally cross course
that includes jumps.
It includes tight turns.
It includes some, you know, longer sweepers
and stuff like that.
The track is designed for good passing opportunities.
It is on dirt, so it keeps that in mind
when you're preparing your car for it.
It's honestly just one of the most fun tracks that,
you know, I personally have ever driven myself
and I've done a lot of stuff in motorsports.
There is a possibility
that we are doing a remodel of the track this year
which is something that we're touching on
with the track owner and everything.
However, you know, we're gonna keep things
just as exciting as it has always been
no matter what we do with it.
And we will be kind of taming jumps a little bit
to make the preservation a little bit easier.
But, you know, that said, you know,
we just want people to come out and have fun
and send the shit out of your cars
and have fun doing it and probably not to get hurt.
Yeah, so I love the disclaimer.
I don't know if it's still on your website.
I gotta admit, I did not check it right before the interview
but last year, I know I was in the shop all day.
I wasn't even doing car stuff.
I was actually working on the shop itself.
But anyway, point being is last year
and I'm hoping it still says that this year is
do not expect to drive your car home.
Absolutely not.
And the reason why we say that is that has happened before.
Oddly, both times someone driving a Honda
and the funny part is, is only one time
the car couldn't drive home and it was a simple fuel issue.
They broke a fitting on the fuel line
and that's why it wouldn't drive home.
So, the Honda is apparently good cars to jump
if you want to keep driving on it.
But yeah, do not expect to drive your car home.
Yeah, things get rowdy out there and they're fun.
But that's the big thing that I gotta say
is with how rowdy it gets, it's all in the name of fun.
We do not tolerate people being assholes at my track.
We have an entire group of people
that are willing to throw you and your car
out of the track.
They will throw your car on top of you.
But we've gotten rid of all the bad apples
and everything.
We're keeping this a safe, fun, family-friendly event,
even though it's called the Pist and Cup.
But yeah, family-friendly, you know.
And another thing that we do do
is we have a Hot Wheels Drag Race for the kids.
So, bring out a Hot Wheel in the box
or buy one from us there.
We do have them for sale at regular Hot Wheel prices.
A $1 super box.
I think it's actually cheaper
than you get a damn Hot Wheel anymore, but.
I think you're right.
I think they're at least like $1.50 or something now.
$1.17 the other day.
I felt disgusting doing that
as I was sitting there coming through them
and still buying like five Hot Wheels at Target.
Because I am an adult with adult money
and I will spend it, I won't buy it.
But yeah, with the race though,
that's a big thing for the kids there.
Kids absolutely love it.
And I love doing it with the kids.
But with the actual racing though,
we do have separate classes
to try to keep things as fair as we can
and also separate things for the quote safety issues.
Five classes is what we got.
We have our shit box standard class,
which is gonna be a stock car or station wagon
or whatever the hell.
Anything based off of a car chassis.
And that's gonna be cars
that don't have any suspension modifications
or heavy engine mods.
Obviously, things like exhausts getting cut off
or I bought this car and someone stuck a far can
on the back of it or things like that.
Obviously safety measures are always appreciated
if you upgrade beyond our high safety standards
and stuff like that.
But that's our shit box standard class
is just a basic stock car.
If you do do bigger upgrades to your car
such as some engine work
or some light suspension mods and stuff like that
or I say light to moderate suspension mods,
things that are gonna give you
a little bit more of an edge in a race,
we have the modified class.
And to separate cars for safety reasons,
cars versus trucks that is
because a lot of people just have shit trucks
that they wanna get rid of.
But we don't want, you know, say F-250 racing
in the same class as a smart car.
So we have a separate truck and SUV class.
And we also have our pro mod class as well,
which is gonna be cars that come out
and these guys usually don't rub up against each other
as much as say our modified or standard guys.
These guys come out with built pre-runners,
trophy trucks, Baja bugs, doom buggies,
side by sides, shit like that.
And we put them all in and race together
with the knowledge that people brought out
some really nice shit
that they don't exactly wanna destroy.
But that said, putting, there is even a Baja Miata
out there, Dylan Full from the Rad Factory
brought out a Miata that had 10 inches
of wheel travel and a supercharger.
And watching that race against a $100,000 pre-runner.
Pretty cool.
That's fair.
I was just thinking that Miata's got more
wheel travel than my Humvee has.
What is a Humvee?
That's eight inches of wheel travel
in a Humvee if I remember right.
Yeah, that's about right.
Yeah, but of course, with all this
we cannot leave out our ladies class.
So that is obviously a self-explanatory there.
Last year, and that's the big thing,
we wanna get our ladies class up.
Last year at our last race, we had two girls.
One of them in a minivan
and the other in a Jeep Cherokee I think.
Yeah, either way.
But yeah, it was exciting to watch
because it was a really tight race
between the two of them.
And the van was hilarious
because it had the back end chopped off
so it was into a pickup.
It was a 95 Pontiac transport.
It's freaking hilarious.
Nice.
But yeah, so I mean, ladies come out,
participate, you will absolutely love it
and you're not required to race
in the ladies class if you are a lady.
If you think that you are qualified,
you can register in multiple classes.
So you can register however you feel fit.
But at the end of each event,
we have our battle royale,
which is every class except for the,
oh, sorry, one second.
I'm sitting in my garage singing a name for car.
Someone's actually, okay.
Situation's being handled.
Someone's missing a black lab.
All right.
Anyways, so yeah, we have our battle royale,
which is every class except for the modified guys
or the not the modified, the pro-mod guys said that one out.
And it is a longer race and it's not,
it's free to enter in that race.
We don't charge any extra for it.
It is run essentially a longer race.
And see who comes out on top on that one.
What else am I missing here?
We have our Mater race as well,
which we put in after the heat races
before the mains start.
And the Mater race is one lap of the track in reverse.
That just sounds like good clean.
Okay, probably not clean.
It's probably good fun.
That is the most fun race to watch
of the whole day.
I tell you, I mean,
because they go over the jumps and everything in reverse.
It's hilarious.
And, you know, you get these front wheel drive cars out there,
you know, hammer down, trying to hold it straight
and just spinning out in the middle of it.
It is so much fun to watch.
These guys are absolutely insane.
They come out and do it.
I can't believe that I have people paying me money
to come out and do this to themselves in their cars.
But I encourage it
and everybody keeps coming back for more.
You put on a good event.
So I don't blame them at all.
In fact, we came out last year
and we'll touch on that just a second.
Absolutely.
I do wanna hit a couple of things real quick.
Of course.
One we forgot to mention is that this is wheel-to-wheel racing.
It's not time trials or anything like that.
You get to go, hopefully not mix it up with people too bad,
but...
Exactly.
And a big role that we have with that is
no malicious hits, no pit maneuvers,
no getting in anybody's door.
Holds your line.
We do understand that rubbing is racing and that's exciting.
It's good to go out there and be buddies.
And role number one of our entire event is don't be a dick.
It is literally written on our website.
Yeah, wheel-to-wheel racing.
If you've never done anything wheel-to-wheel,
you gotta get involved.
It is amazing.
And you think you're a confident driver
up until the car next to you starts rubbing into you.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, your line, the enemy has a vote done
on where that might be.
There's a little bit of a oh shit moment,
the moment that happens.
Yeah.
And again, enemy being just a term.
Everybody's really friendly out there.
Yeah.
It was fantastic.
Such a great group of people.
Such a great group that comes out and does this racing.
I can't thank our competitors enough for coming out
and having the attitudes and everything that they do.
Everybody's helpful with us,
which is greatly appreciated.
But yeah, I mean, we have essentially
like a sibling rivalry attitude, you know?
And you get out on the track and whatnot,
you get to that kind of a level,
but the moment that you're off of the track,
you know, you get people coming up like,
oh shit dude, I can't believe it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then cost to enter the race
is extraordinarily reasonable for racing.
Exactly.
I mean, you know, we kind of take it in the shorts for that.
However, right now, $60 on,
I think that's until October 14th, that is.
And then the last couple of days there
and up to the day of the race, it is $80 to enter.
So it is definitely encouraged to get in there
and register as soon as you can.
And it also makes our life a lot easier
as far as organizing the event
to know how many people we have coming in
and how many people we can be ready for
to get in the gate and everything.
Spectators, I don't think we're at 25 a person
or 20 a person.
Yeah, 20 a person for spectators.
Kids are 10 bucks each.
And that is under, or that is under six.
Above six.
Or above six.
Under six is for you.
We got the accountant in the background
whispering the answers, I love it.
How do you, you are not supposed to hear that.
Hey, she could speak up, but she doesn't want to.
So here I am.
That's fair.
You know, I've got the same deal.
My accountant has to keep me straight.
So it's, I completely understand it.
Yeah, we say accountant, but in reality,
this is the boss.
Yeah, yeah.
No, accountant is one of many titles for sure.
Uh-huh, that's kind of the big thing I gotta say is,
you know, Amanda here, this event
would not be anything that it is without her.
She busts some serious ass.
And she is, her official title
is the shenanigans coordinator.
AKA the cat herder.
She is absolutely amazing with this stuff.
She's the one that makes every poster
that you see on our social media pages.
She's the one that organizes the website.
She does everything.
And I'm just the sexy voice,
then beautiful face.
So.
I love it.
I can certainly attest to that.
Last year, first thing when I showed up,
I had ordered a sweatshirt.
Yeah.
I showed up and kind of checked in
and she's like, did you get your sweatshirt yet?
Yeah.
And she is just on top of it and knows what's going on.
So.
Yeah.
Despite having to manage me at the same time,
she's got it going on.
I'm not easy.
Well, I can't even manage myself half the time.
So.
Yes.
Hey, I hear you.
I hear you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So last year, Beast Squad came out for,
I think it was the middle run.
It was in June.
Oh, that was a rough one.
That was May, actually, I believe.
Oh, yeah.
It was the end of May.
Yeah.
So, yeah, May, that one actually was pretty good.
If I remember right, everything went pretty well.
Yep.
No, it was good.
We came out as far as Beast Squad.
We brought a car, Jim and Gail got a car.
As we were putting it together a few weeks before,
Gail turns to Jim and says,
hey, are we gonna need another belt for this?
And he goes, no, the likelihood of throwing a belt
is almost not, don't even worry about it.
Yeah.
If I remember clearly what happened is
we spent a while on the track trying to locate
the Serpentine belt that flew off of that car.
Yes.
It was shredded first and then flew off.
So, you know, it wasn't even able to put back on.
Yeah.
So that's, that was definitely a Beast Squad move
on Jim's part there.
Oh, and that is typical behavior
for a Pistin Cub participant.
Yep.
That's what you expect.
Yeah.
And then as you were saying,
so Gail ran in the women's class
and she did that because Jim was going to run
in the shipbox class with the same car.
And there was, I think there was a single heat
for the women's on that one.
Yeah, there's a single heat for each class
and then there's the main event.
Okay.
And then the battle royale.
So, yeah.
So, she was kind of out of the main event
until I think one of the people there lent her a car.
Yeah.
Which was super nice.
And I think he was planning on running that one
in the shipbox main event.
Yeah.
And I think she ended up tearing that one up too
inadvertently if I remember correctly.
But yeah, but it just goes to show that,
everybody's there, Jim spent instead of,
because he was no longer racing
because he no longer had a car.
He spent a lot of time under hoods of other people
and we were helping out and having a great time.
And oh yeah.
Towards the end, I think we ended up flagging also.
Yeah, you did.
And that was greatly appreciated.
It was our flagger's flaked on us.
That's why they ended up going to lunch
and never coming back.
I was like, what the fuck's going on?
Yeah, but no, that was good.
That was actually the first race I had ever,
more or less participated in.
I rode with Gail that her first run
and got to flag and got to kind of see the whole thing.
So it was, that was pretty awesome.
Yeah.
And once again, big thanks to you guys
for coming out and doing that.
But that said, that's just kind of the attitude
that we have out at that race.
Helping friends out, man, when you're out at that race,
you're not just competitors.
You're meeting people that are like-minded individuals.
These are your friends, man.
These are the kind of people that want to do
the same shit that you want to do.
Yep, absolutely.
And by no means did I mean B Squad
was the only one doing that.
Now, everybody there was helping people
and it was a good environment.
Yeah, and I harp on that.
If you're, like I said, we keep the shitty people out.
So come out with a good attitude
and a good set of tools
and everybody else is gonna do the same thing for you.
There's a couple guys out there
that have welders on their trucks
that they're out there helping out with and shit.
Some guy had a crane on his truck.
I saw him lifting up the front end of another guy.
Yeah, it's a great attitude, great environment.
And we just have a whole lot of fun with it.
And you're not racing for a large prize by any means,
but you're out there racing in general.
And to be honest, that's something
you just don't get anymore at an affordable price.
Yeah.
You can go out and do whatever race that you want to do.
I mean, I'm a drag racer and drag racers,
I'm gonna say in quotes, cheap,
but at the end of the day,
you're one of sometimes 200 cars in your class or more
and you're odds of winning anything
out of that many people, extremely low.
So you have to go into it with the attitude
or like, well, I just spent fucking $5,000 on my motor
and all this stuff to go out and spend $35 to go race
and probably not take anything home.
And if you do take anything home, it's usually a plaque.
So.
Yep.
And that's the trouble with a lot of racing is
it is at such a high bar that you got to spend
a lot on the car before you even pay entry fee.
Yeah.
Where this particular niche seems to kind of solve that
and like, hey, if you want to go fast with other people,
come on out and do it.
Here's the rules.
Don't be a dick, be safe.
Yeah.
Have a good time.
It's one of the few races where you could come out
and just spend a few hundred dollars on a car
that may make it, but at the end of it all,
you could take your car home and part it out
or you could leave it at the track
and we recycle it and put it into the next race
or however you want to deal with it.
Odds are you'll get your money back out of that car.
But another thing that we do have,
and we did it once last year and it worked out really well,
is we have a raffle car.
So you could spend $20 on a raffle ticket
with a chance to race in the Piston Cup.
And I think we have a Taurus this year,
that is the raffle car.
But yeah, make sure you bring a helmet if you buy a ticket
because you very well may end up racing in that race,
which the last person that came out and did it
or won that raffle, hell, he almost won the race.
Nice.
So that car has a roll bar, it has a harness.
So it's seeds are high safety standards.
So yeah, so that's definitely an option.
And where can we get tickets for that?
It's on our website that you can go buy tickets
for that online.
So if you wanted to just spend 20 bucks
on the chance to possibly drive,
go right on ahead with that.
And worst comes to worst,
you come out and watch one hell of an event.
So there's that.
Fair enough.
So that raffle includes the car,
the entry fee into the race,
and basically you're good to go if you win the raffle.
Pretty much.
Nice.
Yeah, bring it on.
And is that beforehand or is that the day of the race?
That is actually gonna happen on the day of the race.
Okay.
So yeah, I mean it is kind of a way
to get spectators in the door,
which is a great thing.
But at the same time,
also giving you a chance to come out
and participate in this event.
Yeah.
But the raffle,
you gotta be present at the track at 10.15.
There you go.
And that's one thing we haven't touched on.
Where is the track?
The track is in Ordway, Colorado,
which is a bit of a hike.
It's about an hour east of Pueblo, Colorado,
and about three hours away from Denver.
And the track is called Lake View Motor Sport Park.
The ticket with that is there is on-site camping available.
So you come out on Friday and honestly leave on Sunday.
Yep, and that works really well.
That's what we did last year.
Yeah.
And it's, we took some tents.
A lot of people have campers.
It's, yeah, it's just a good time.
Yeah.
And it's at 10 bucks for camping.
So, you know, the one thing
that we're not really doing a good job with
is making money on this race.
What I said,
we're keeping it affordable for anybody
that wants to come in and participate.
Yeah, that is definitely a hard line to walk, right?
You gotta, trying to keep it affordable,
but still make enough so you can do it again next year.
Yeah, so I don't even wanna talk about the money
I lost last year doing this.
But, you know, the thing is,
is it's such a good thing for people to come out and do.
I can't stop doing this.
It's too much fun, number one.
And number two, like,
you just can't get into this kind of shit like this anymore.
So, we're excited to do this.
And, you know, we do this for the people.
Yep.
So, yeah, and we won't go into the Genesis story.
If you want that, you can get our previous episode.
I'll drop that in the keynote so you can get that.
But it essentially grew out of racing in the backyard.
So, I mean, it's just, it still has that flavor.
It's a fantastic event.
Yeah, quite literally, you know,
this started off of a conversation
that my brother and I had, actually,
when I was in the Air Force,
how World of Redneck started in general.
I was deployed and ended up in an area
where I got cell phones or a Wi-Fi.
So, I had my phone and my brother and I
were talking for a short bit and we were talking like,
oh, we need to start this World of Redneck thing.
And, you know, I thought it was a great idea.
And then I got bored one night
and started the Facebook page with it.
And it grew from there.
A drunken phone call that I had with them
a little bit later, we were talking about, you know,
a way to race for cheap
and try to get people out to race for cheap.
And the first races we had was in my brother's backyard.
He has 36 acres in Bennett, Colorado.
So, you know, in his backyard,
we built a track and ran it the first time.
We had two cars and five participants.
We were kind of doing, you know,
just two guys at a time and the two cars that we had
at the Honda Civic and a Mercedes 190E.
And the second time, which was we advertised the race
in like January of 2020 and it got viral
because of our stupid fucking name.
And next thing you know,
we have like 6,000 people interested
and you know, like 300 saying they're going like,
oh shit, you know, what are we getting ourselves into?
And then the pandemic happened,
which in a way kind of saved our ass.
How we were going to have that many people.
But next thing you know, you know,
we have 25 cars showing up on our property out there
and there's like 100 spectators.
And the last race that we had out there, you know,
there was like 36 cars and over 300 spectators
coming out to watch the shit on our private property
and my brother and I are looking at each other like,
this is a lot.
This is a lot of people out here.
If we were not equipped to have that many people
and you know, then sure as shit,
somebody rolled their car, they were okay.
But that was kind of a little wake up moment
like we can't do it here anymore.
And luckily, Larry White,
the owner of a few Motorsports Park was out of that race.
And he approached me and said,
hey man, you can't do this here.
And I was like, I know.
I was thinking the same thing.
Oh, he was like, you know, I got this track.
I got this dirt bike track out in Norway
and you know, we could build a course out there.
You know, I got insurance and everything
so we'd be good to go.
And I said, okay.
And started hosting races in Southern Colorado
and the people out there have been fantastic to us
and you know, we love doing shit for them as well.
And that said, you know, we have you guys
that come out from Wyoming.
We've had people come out from Kansas.
We've had people come out from Montrose, Colorado,
which I think is even further than you guys.
Well, maybe not you in particular.
But...
Yeah, I'm on the other side of Wyoming.
Yeah, right.
You know, realize just how big of a state that is
until you make it to the other side.
Yeah.
It's not just Cheyenne and Laramie, it turns out.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I mean, it's not as big as Texas,
but some days it feels like it.
I've made that drive a couple of times.
Yeah.
Yeah, we have people that are saying
they want to come out from California.
And we have, we've had reach all the way out
to Alabama and Chicago and areas like that
that people want to come do it.
And you know, if you're willing to make that track
and do some camping and stuff like that,
I highly encourage it, because once again,
I don't think you could do this anywhere else.
This is the only place that keeps racing this affordable
and this much fun in reality, this type of an environment.
So...
Yeah, well, and the camping goes a long way
for that too, right?
You know, saving one or two hotel rooms a night,
that's huge.
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, the hotel room
is what, 120 bucks a night about or more?
Yeah.
Yep.
So it can get pricey really fast.
Yeah, and if you're, you know,
you got a whole crew you're bringing,
that gets expensive real fast versus camping where,
you know, you can be good to go for probably
not much more than the entry fee.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, you know, 10 bucks.
I mean, shit, if I lose 10 bucks, I'm not upset about it.
Yeah, yeah.
On the other hand, if I find 10 bucks,
I'm over the moon.
It's amazing how that works, isn't it?
Oh, shit, I got 10 bucks, I'm getting coffee.
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, the camping's a good thing,
and you know, everybody just wanders from campsite to campsite,
and it's funny because like, when you're out there,
it's like going to different communities
that are like 50 feet away from each other,
just groups of people having separate fires and shit.
Yep, yep.
It's a lot of fun.
Can confirm.
Right.
And again, like you said, the whole thing is still family-friendly.
Absolutely.
You know, there's, people get a little bit more rowdy
when the sun goes down, but I never saw anything that was
unsafe or that would have worried me
if I would have had my kids there.
Oh, that's the thing, you know, everybody teams each other
and check at the same time, which is, you know,
a very important part of it.
And that's the thing, you know, we rely on this community
to look out for each other.
So that's one of the things that keeps this shit going
is, you know, accountability and, you know,
hold the people next to you accountable
and making sure they're not acting a fool.
And, you know, everybody is pretty cool with each other.
So, you know, there's a, we haven't had
the attitude, severe of issues, you know,
the way we're like, you know, this might not be a good idea.
Yep.
Well, I think you got a fantastic thing going.
And I would imagine it's not going to be too long,
and you are going to have hundreds of people showing up
with cars and a couple of thousand spectators.
For my sake, I hope so.
For Amanda's sake.
You're going to have to find some help for Amanda,
probably.
Absolutely.
No, that is another thing, you know,
the volunteers that we get involved are big.
That said, we're always looking for more volunteers.
And if you want to come out and volunteer to do,
you know, flag work or something like that,
or, you know, track Stewart work, anything of the sort,
we highly encourage it.
We'll feed you.
We'll teach you how to do this.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
We'll teach you.
We'll teach you what each individual flag means
in a mostly sarcastic manner,
but we'll do it.
Yeah.
I had no idea what I was doing when they,
when you guys needed some flag help and,
and Gail kind of all and told all of us to go flag.
All right, just tell me how to do it.
And yeah, I got the lessons and sent out there
and the way we went.
It was, it was a good time actually.
We had fun.
It's after Liz for my dumb ass on there.
Red flag, red flag, stop them, stop them.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's fun to even be involved with that kind
of stuff.
Yeah.
Volunteers will feed you.
And at the end of the race,
we'll feed you other things that.
You shouldn't drive.
If you are of age,
if you are of age, of course.
Yeah.
And if you're not of age,
we'll feed you regular stuff again.
Have a Pepsi.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Yeah, definitely.
You know, the volunteers,
that's one of the only ways we can make this
work is with a good reliable volunteers.
You know,
like I said,
when you guys had to step in is because our volunteers.
Sucked.
Yeah,
I can't expect a whole lot of high school kids anymore.
It seems a, you know,
not to shame anybody that may be in high school.
But if you are listening to this,
take a lesson.
Do better.
Follow through on what you sign up for.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yep.
You know, those are lessons that even my daughters are,
are learning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I bet.
So I say that and she's standing here in the room looking at me.
Giving me the glare.
Who's the staff where you're talking to?
But yeah,
but you know,
volunteers,
big thing,
you know,
participants.
Absolutely.
You know,
got to get you guys out here and getting involved with this
kind of stuff.
And spectators 100%.
You know,
this is some wild shit.
You know,
that,
that is a definitely something unlike anybody's ever seen
before.
You know,
this isn't,
this isn't your circle track race or anything like that.
Or these guys are too competitive and out there trying to
race for tens of thousands of dollars.
This is,
you know,
this is people coming out for the simple pure joy of it all.
Yep.
If you're not having fun,
there's not much point on being out there and it just,
it leads to having good people out there.
It's,
it's a good time.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You know,
I've done dirt bikes.
I've done,
I've done drag racing.
We've got involved with SCCA.
We've done a circle track and all that stuff.
And the fact of the matter is,
is once shit starts to get that competitive,
once the money starts to get that big and stuff like
that,
it starts to just not be fun anymore.
It starts to really kind of just become somewhat of like a job
and I hate working.
That's a,
that's the thing with it all.
You know,
this is what race cars are for,
is to go have fun with,
you know,
go do something you enjoy.
You know,
if you're out on the track and pissed off,
you don't belong on the track.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Friendly,
competitive.
Yeah.
Friendly,
competitive.
Yeah.
Friendly,
competitive.
I can almost talk tonight.
Friendly,
competitiveness is good.
But yeah,
if you're out there just to win,
it's,
it probably isn't the place for you.
Exactly.
And you know,
and you got, you know,
that many other people out there trying to win.
That's,
you know,
that that's the big thing.
And it's not like I'm telling you that our competitors
don't want to win.
Of course you want to win our plastic trophy.
Of course you want to come out and do as good as you can.
And you know,
so you know what you did and all that stuff and be like,
yeah,
did I come out to this thing and kick some ass?
Oh yeah.
What are you driving?
Geometro.
But that's the fun thing about it is,
you know,
just making sure that,
you know,
everybody's coming out and just having fun with it.
And you can't get too competitive with this kind of stuff.
But that said,
winning is always fun.
Yep.
So yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
you got to want to win the race.
So yeah,
you know,
this is a good thing to do is to be a cruise.
Exactly.
You know,
high-paced cruise.
But yeah.
Yeah.
That's the thing, you know,
when you start to pay someone that you know is really moving
and you're starting to hang with them,
that's that's a lot of the fun.
You know,
then trying to find the window to get around them and stuff
like that.
You know,
anybody that's ever done any kind of racing really needs
an experience.
Yeah.
Yep.
Passing somebody is not nearly as easy as it looks in the
TV. Oh, come on. It was right there in the window right there. Yeah, things look a little
different when that dust is in your face and shit. So they can't see anything. We're doing
a really good job at keeping our track watered now and making sure that we keep the dust
down as much as we can. We're doing we're doing as good as we can as far as track
maintenance and stuff like that goes throughout the race between between the mains and
the heats and stuff like that. We do have water trucks that go out and wet the track.
So trying to make everything as as good as possible as far as keeping a good track for
races to drive on. And you know, like I said, maybe I haven't said it yet, but I'm very
proud of the track that we have in the track that tracks that we're able to build me
personally am an equipment operator by trade. So, you know, get out of a tractor on
Friday and drive down to the track on Saturday and operate again. And I'll give
a really, really big shout out to Caleb White from Pronghorn contracting, who is
the main track builder out there. He does phenomenal work on the track. And he
also owns a company that does everything from solar panels to fencing and stuff.
And he's just a really stand up guy, big help for us and extremely hard worker. So
big shout out to Caleb White and Pronghorn contracting. So do I have to pay for this
advertisement? Yes, absolutely. No, no, no. Not at all. I'm I'm glad that everybody
helping you is getting their shout out because I like you said, you're keeping
affordable for everybody. So nobody's nobody's making a bunch of money on this
deal. Nobody is making a bunch of fun instead. Like I said, I lose money every
time I do this. And of course, that's not fun for anybody. So we are always open
for, you know, sponsorship, you know, B Squad has sponsored us this year. And
that's so, so appreciated. I can't thank you guys enough for that, you
know, with donating a little bit of money and also been out and helping out as you
guys have in the past. But that said, we love the fact that you come out and
participate as well. Yeah, we we had lots of fun. And you know, it's it's a
worthy cause. And so helping you out by sponsoring you and you stick our name
on some of your swag. And I mean, it's it's a win win. So that's a good
deal. Stickers on my hard hat. And once I find out where I put the rest of
the stickers that you gave us, I'm going to stick you on my daily driver too. So
nice daily driver I have that I put your sticker on. It's no longer my daily
driver. So somebody else has got it on there. Yeah, but yeah, we got your
sticker on Amanda's forerunner. And yeah, I've handed out a few of them to
people. So perfect, perfect. Yeah. But so yeah, we're doing our best to
help out those that help us out for sure. And you know, putting your
logo on on our stuff is the least we can do. And if you do decide to sponsor
this race, you know, we will absolutely give you a shout out online. And
anywhere we can, we're not huge. But you know, we have I think I've got
almost 6000 followers on tech talk and nothing huge, but it's something
we've got 1500 on Instagram and I think 1500 on Facebook. So, you know,
that's faces that see, see what you got. And, you know, we'll do our best to
talk you up the best that we can without lying, of course. And I'm not
going to say you're great if you're not great, but I'll be like, Hey,
these people helped us.
But yeah, big appreciation to everybody that that does go out of
your way to help us out. Yeah. Well, and the nice thing is it's a very
focused audience too. So if you're, yeah, you know, if you're doing
something with racing or cars, everybody that's that's following
you guys has an interest in that it's not just, you know, 6000 random
people. So
not exactly. And, you know, the money that comes into this, you
know, like I said, nothing really goes into our pocket at all.
Nothing ever really goes will or nothing does go into our pocket.
If we do profit, if we ever profit, that's when it goes to do a
separate account to go into the next race. And things that we do
need money for, we have EMTs on site. They don't work for free.
Unfortunately, I asked them, they said no. Insurance anymore is
one of the big thing that kills races in general. You know,
these events are starting to get extremely expensive to
ensure. So paying the insurance is a big thing. Like I said,
we're not going to get rich over this race. If we ever do, you
should probably look into where I'm laundering this money from.
Hey, I'm not worried about it. I mean, that's between you and
law enforcement, right?
Yeah, you didn't hear nothing.
Allegedly.
All right. But yeah, so, you know, sponsorship, a big thing, it
helps out a lot. And, you know, it costs money to put this on. But
the fact of the matter is it goes on, you know, for the good of
the people around. And, you know, with that, you know, any
other questions, I'm happy to happy to answer.
Well, you're, you're definitely doing good stuff.
Before, before I ask you where everybody can find you and sign
up for the race and things like that, I wanted to invite you to
our event. We are going to, this is the fourth, fifth Bonsai
run, fourth. Yeah, so it's a run from it's going from Salt
Lake this year down to Vegas the day before SEMA.
Oh, and since since I a little birdie told me that you might be
going to SEMA this year, if you want to swing by Salt Lake, you
can, it's just a cruise. It's not a race where we're not doing
anything crazy. We're just cruising down there. Yeah, you
can check out our episode on all the rules on that. But yeah,
it's just going to be a cruise. We're going to take the day
before and cruise down there. And then of course, B Squad's
going to SEMA. No, no entry fee. If you show up, that's great.
And we're just raising money for St. Jude's. Excellent. Okay.
That's just kind of the cause we're doing because three years
ago, four years, some years ago at SEMA, I found out I had
cancer. So that's, that's what we're doing. No, cancer is
a very near and dear subject to me. When I was 21, I lost
my dad to cancer. And just two years ago, I lost my mom to
cancer. It's hard to hear that. That's, that's not good. You
know, so that said, I absolutely want to come out and help
support your event. I will do my best to make it. But that
said, I am sorry to hear that you babbled with cancer. And
I'm happy to hear you're doing okay. So
yep, it's it was, it was a fortunate thing that that they
found it. And I've told that story before. So I won't go into it
now. But yeah, I appreciate that. And I figured the best way to
help is help somebody else with cancer. And, you know, little
ones with cancer, that's that just seems like the best cause.
So that's what we're doing. Absolutely. Absolutely. And
thank you guys for doing that. That's, that's amazing. So
that's, that's, like I said, near and dear to my heart. So big
thank you to you guys for putting on something for charity
like that.
Yeah, absolutely. The event's fun. And then, you know, to do
it a good cause. And it's just good time. So
you guys driving hot rods down there? Or what do you do?
So the the bonds I run in theory is like, almost a road
kill type deal. That was the initial thought.
Yeah. Okay. Turns out we've got classes now. There's the
unlimited class come cruise with us. We don't care what you're
driving daily driver, frame off rest of mod, whatever you want
to do. There's the original class, which is 1800 all in,
except for safety equipment. And then Jim and Gail have the
legendary class, which is $500. Nobody's checking receipts,
but that's, that's just the that's the class division.
Okay. Well, that said, we have, we have options and I know the
option we're going to choose is most likely going to be a
2021 forerunner.
Hey, that's, that's the most comfortable option.
It is, but that said, this this forerunner completely
stock. However, we've taken it to Moab. We've recently
just topped a Colorado 14 or in it, Mount Ontario. And we've
definitely used the shit out of the rock sliders that are on it.
Much to Amanda's dismay. She's still making payments on it.
What's the point of having a capable four wheel drive vehicle if
you're not doing four wheel drive things, right?
So that's, that's fair. So I'm happy to report I believe
we're going to take the interstate from Salt Lake down
into Vegas. So no, in theory,
in theory, no, no rock sliders necessary paint scratched off the
bottom.
Although, you know, I don't think I'll be able to have it ready in
time. But if I do, I will do it. One of the cars that I have is
a 54 forward mainline two door that I literally picked up out
of a barn a couple years ago, and quite simply got it
running, and then drove it to a car show in Denver, 50 miles to
a car show in Denver on tires from 1979.
So gambler's choice on that one.
Holy cow.
Absolutely. I'm not going to say that was the smartest move I've
ever done. But this is why we're friends with B squad, right?
That's, that's a B squad move right there.
Absolutely. So I'm hoping you didn't have to pay for that
one. But yeah,
not yet. I mean, I've put four fuel filters on it so far. And
now the entire fuel line is plugged up. So the captain takes
it out.
This tire stayed intact.
And I will not do your guys's drive on tires from 1979.
Yeah, that's that's why tires and brakes are kind of outside
that $1800 limit for that class. But again, nobody's
checking receipts. Actually, that's how I paid $400 bucks for.
So we're, we're within it. That said, I also lost my phone in
this car through a hole in the floorboard. So I didn't run it
over. Somebody found the phone. My brother called the guy that
found it answered is like, Hey, found this in the middle of
a parking lot. Yeah, I was, I was well done as well, right?
But it sounds like a fantastic event. And what we'll we'll do
our best to get involved. Okay, yeah, of course, but that
sounds definitely up our alley. And yeah, it should be pretty
close to along your travel path. And we'll we'll see what we
can do. So we'll bring tools.
Yep, we got a couple of chase vehicles coming with us. So
yeah, it's
yep. And we, that's our thing. We road trip to see him every
year. It's part of our thing to do a little bit of sightseeing
and stuff like that. That's actually when we did Moab was
on our way to SEMA. So
Okay, nice.
Yes, we're, yeah, we will probably join you on that one.
Can't say for sure right now. But I'll say that it is
incredibly likely.
Excellent. Well, we would certainly love to have you.
Yeah, I'll talk to my scudler. Get back to you.
Okay. All right. Tell us again, all the details about the race
and where we can find it and all that good stuff.
Okay, so from the top here race pissed in cup p i s s e d i
n c u p. And you can find us at world of redneck.com and
world of redneck on Instagram world of redneck on
tech talk world of redneck on Facebook world of redneck on
pornhub world of redneck on the first three. I think I even had
a Twitter there for a while, but I think you want to kick me
off of that. I don't know why.
I do not want to see you naked. I'm just throwing that out
there.
People have in the past. But that was also probably wider at
the time. But anyways.
So yeah, the race is on October 18. Gates open for the pits at
seven. I'm looking over at a man to make sure my time is
right. Yeah, for drivers at seven for spectators, it opens
at 10. Driver's meeting is at 1015. And after that, there
will also be a, oh, wait, no, the drawing the drawing is
at 1015 for the for the raffle car. 1030 is the drivers meeting
that will also include a sight lap of the track. Racing will
begin at 11 to 60 bucks until October 14. And at October
14 until day of the race, it will be 80 bucks. This is at
Lakeview Motorsport Park in Ordway, Colorado and camping on
site for 10 bucks. You can camp Friday through Sunday. And on
October 15, we will be doing an online chip draw for starting
positions for the heat. And anybody that comes in after
that will start at the back of the pack. I think that's most
of it. Yeah, so
all right. And again, main website is world of redneck, not
rednecks. Yeah. Don't ask me how I know that was a B squad move.
It's funny. I've been working with Larry now for three years.
And he still calls it world rednecks. Brother fucker, like
how long have we been doing this?
But I mean, when you talk about talk to a guy with a mullet, you
got to lower your expectations, right? That said, Larry has a
glorious mullet. And he's honestly a really great guy.
One of the nicest guys. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And, you
know, he's got a pretty, pretty good operation going there at
Lakeview Motorsport Park. And just to touch on that track
for a second here. It's also a motocross track. And he has
also a supercross track out there as well. So good people and
excellent track. Caleb built that track as well. It's
phenomenal. And I'm going to get ready to write it on a KX 500.
It's going to be awesome. But it's what I need to haul my
fat ass around anymore. But yeah, so I think that covers the
details on the race as good as I got it there.
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About this episode
The return to the World of Redneck brings excitement as Tony discusses the upcoming Pist-In Cup race, a unique rally-cross event where participants race $500 'shipbox' cars. With a focus on fun and affordability, the race encourages costumes for both drivers and cars, creating a festive atmosphere. Tony shares insights on race rules, track design, and the camaraderie among participants, emphasizing that the event is about enjoyment rather than competition. The episode also highlights the importance of community and volunteer support in making the event a success.