$100k Project Car | F_cking Cars Podcast Ep 14
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Car
Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang is a popular sports car that many people love for its speed and cool design. It's been around for a long time and is often seen as a symbol of American cars, which is why people talk about it a lot.
Term
small block
A small block is a kind of engine that is smaller and lighter, but still powerful. It's often used in fast cars to help them go really fast.
Part
coilovers
Coilovers are parts of a car's suspension that help control how the car rides and handles. They can be adjusted to change how high or low the car sits and how stiff the ride feels.
Company
Roadster Shop
Roadster Shop is a company that makes parts and frames for classic cars and trucks, helping to improve their performance and handling.
Term
rust belt
The 'rust belt' is a part of the U.S. where many cars get rusty because of the weather and salt used on the roads. It can be hard to fix cars there because of the damage from rust.
Car
Toyota Corolla
The Toyota Corolla is a small car that is very popular because it's reliable and gets good gas mileage. Many people choose it for everyday driving.
Concept
tube chassis
A tube chassis is a frame made from hollow tubes, which makes it strong but light. It's often used in race cars and custom vehicles because it can be shaped to fit different designs.
Car
Toyota Tundra
The Toyota Tundra is a big truck that people use for work or to carry heavy things. It's known for being tough and lasting a long time, which is why many people like to buy it.
Brand
Ishikawa body
Ishikawa Body is a car repair shop in Japan that does custom work on vehicles. They are known for making unique modifications to cars.
Car
Datsun Fairlady Z
The Datsun Fairlady Z is an older sports car that many people love for its style and speed. It's part of a series of cars known as Z-cars, which are famous among car fans.
Concept
drift track
A drift track is a place where cars are driven in a way that makes them slide sideways around corners. It's designed for drivers to practice and show off their drifting skills.
Term
LS engine
The LS engine is a type of V8 engine made by General Motors. It's popular for being powerful and is often used to replace engines in other cars to make them faster.
Car
Chevrolet Corvair
The Chevrolet Corvair is a small car made by Chevrolet in the 1960s. The second generation had some changes that made it look and drive better than the first version.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that has been around for many years. It's known for its unique shape and powerful performance, making it very popular with car lovers.
Term
VIN number
A VIN number is like a car's ID card. It helps you know important details about the car, like who made it and when.
Term
salvage title
A salvage title means the car was in a bad accident or had serious damage. It can be fixed, but it's usually worth less because of its past.
Car
Ford Model T
The Ford Model T is one of the first cars that regular people could afford to buy. It changed how people traveled and helped make cars a common part of life.
Concept
parts car
A parts car is a car that isn't working anymore but can be used to take parts from it to fix other cars. It's like a donor car for repairs.
Concept
rat rod
A rat rod is a type of custom car that looks old and worn out on purpose. People build them using old car parts and make them unique, focusing more on how they drive than how they look.
Car
Tesla Model 8S
The Tesla Model S is a fancy electric car that can go really far on a single charge. It's known for its high-tech features and fast acceleration.
Car
Ford Model A
The Ford Model A is a car that came after the Model T, made from 1927 to 1931. It was more advanced and stylish, helping to continue the popularity of Ford cars.
Part
leaf springs
Leaf springs are metal strips that help hold up a vehicle and make the ride smoother. They're often found in trucks and older cars to support the weight and absorb bumps.
Term
suspension travel
Suspension travel is how much a car's suspension can move up and down. This is important for off-roading because it helps the tires stay on the ground when driving over bumps and dips.
Car
Nissan Leafs
The Nissan Leaf is an electric car that runs on batteries instead of gas. It's popular because it's good for the environment and can save you money on fuel.
Term
firewall
The firewall is a wall in a car that separates the engine from the inside where people sit. It helps keep the heat and any potential fire from the engine away from passengers.
Part
ball joint
A ball joint is a part of a car's suspension that helps the wheels move up and down while keeping them connected to the rest of the car. It's important for steering and stability.
Part
strut
A strut is a part of the car's suspension that helps keep the ride smooth by absorbing bumps in the road. It also helps with steering and stability.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Corvette is a fast sports car made by Chevrolet. It's popular for racing and has a cool design that many people love.
Car
De Tomaso Pantera
The De Tomaso Pantera is a sports car known for its unique design and powerful engine. It was made in Italy but used American parts, making it a blend of styles.
Company
Factory Five
Factory Five is a company that makes kits for people to build their own cars. They focus on classic styles, so you can create a car that looks like a vintage model but is built with modern parts.
Concept
kit car
A kit car is a car that you buy as a set of parts and put together yourself. They can look really cool, but sometimes they don't fit together perfectly, which can make building them tricky.
Concept
aluminum body cobra
An aluminum body cobra is a type of sports car that is made from aluminum instead of fiberglass. Aluminum makes the car lighter and can improve performance, but it also costs more to produce.
Car
Shelby Cobra
The Shelby Cobra is a fast sports car that was made a long time ago. It's famous for being really powerful and is loved by car collectors.
Car
Shelby Daytona Coupes
The Shelby Daytona Coupe is a classic race car from the 1960s, famous for its speed and unique design. It was built to win races and is highly valued by collectors today.
Car
Chrysler Daytonas
The Chrysler Daytona is a sporty car from the 1980s that looks cool and is fun to drive. It's not very common, which makes it special for collectors.
Car
Jaguar Etype
The Jaguar E-Type is a classic sports car known for its beautiful looks and speed. Many people think it's one of the best-looking cars ever made.
Car
Chevrolet C/K
The Chevrolet C/K is a line of trucks made by Chevrolet. The 1978 model is known for its strong build and was popular for both work and personal use.
LIVE
What's the best thing you've seen this week? Oh, no
Hey in cars
Oh, yeah, probably this white Mustang behind me
The things really got you in
Well, you know
When you get a car in the shop and then you have a customer here you want to get
Kind of like look it over do an initial look over and get a list together of like this is what we see right now
you know before we start turning and
So I was kind of nervous about I was kind of putting it off until the last
Day as far as like looking at it because sometimes you see stuff you don't want to see so
Got it up in the air wife was cleaning it off and
Yeah, there's still red oxide primer on the bottom
Like you could clean off large majorities of it with like swacks and grease them over and like some rubbing compound and it would look
Like brand new it's pretty nuts
There's like a small hole in the bottom of the dryer passenger wheel opening at the way at the bottom in the back
That's kind of a notorious spot, but I mean like you've worked on mustangs those in the
Inner aprons where the apron parts overlap. There's usually like swelling and those are always rusted out
These are like cherry
Like everything that's all the bad spots where I know where to look on a Mustang
Those spots are all great. So it's it was like finally, you know
Yeah, and it's a six cylinder car so it needs another torque box put in it, but he's gonna put a hot small block in it
Yeah, I don't know. He's really into
High-revving small blocks like a naturally aspirated
Carburetted small block. So that's kind of the route. He's going he's more into the
Vintage racing like it's not necessarily gonna have like a vintage race car with leaf springs. It's gonna have a
Coil over, you know link system in the back, but it'll still be utilizing as much stock
Mustang stuff as we possibly can so I dig the vibe
We were just we're just kind of like going over the build and like what he's expecting out of it
What his vibe is actually, you know
What he's looking for because we kind of talked about putting it, you know getting a
Chassis for it potentially and he's like, I just don't want to go like that's not the car. I envision he's like I get it
That's the next step, but he's just not that's not the car. He wants in his in the end. He wants more of a
little closer to
Vintage race car kind of a feel that's cool as far as like
aesthetically
Not chopping with the car. He's like he still wants a Mustang in the end and if it's there's a problem
He's like and that's a Mustang problem. Okay. Well, I get it
So he's just trying to be like in the in the middle of it of all that territory
Which is the suspension that he was looking at was Street and Track, which is some pretty nice stuff and it was
We were looking at it and troubleshooting some potential problems, but they were they were all pretty minimal
He's asking me about home. What about what about moving this frame real a little bit or just cutting out a little piece of there
I'm like, that's like small potatoes for me, man. That's super small
Right. Yeah, it was good conversation and yeah, definitely looking forward to digging in that
We won't be able to dig into that until like
Hoping February probably merge somewhere in there
But we just got into the building so we can kind of get get our minds wrapped around it
If we have some time we can start disassembly and that's
That's cool. I kind of like the idea of you know keeping the veg car still kind of vintage. Obviously, it'll be
Better with having you know coils and stuff in the back, but still make you feel like you're driving an old car
Yeah, and I think that's yeah, you know, I think he wants it to feel like a
Like a road like a race car on the road like a vintage race car for the road
When we first started talking I'm like, well, yeah, everybody wants a fast car on the road
And then you know, what does that actually mean for you and what are you going to do with it?
Sometimes asking somebody what you're gonna do with the car seems like they're like, what do you mean?
Like what the fuck does that matter kind of a thing but
You know what I'm saying like they're like, well, what does it matter to you just build the car how I want it?
It's like well
There's things and decisions that you can make along the way that would make things better or worse or like help the vibe hurt the vibe
You know, yeah, and you want everybody to be on the same page. Oh
Yeah, for sure because I mean if the whole idea is to make the customer happy that I mean the car is
The car is the
Equation to make them happy so you just have to you know, it's it's a balance for sure
He's like I want you to have be
Yeah
He's like I want you to be proud of so proud of it
There were like you're like you would take it somewhere and say you did this
I'm like, well, that's what we do try and do with everything we do here
But it's awesome that you're coming from that standpoint as well. So right. Yes
Look forward to getting into that. I mean we next month
Yeah, next early next month, I'm gonna be digging into that that Chevy truck finally the 58 so
Also looking forward to doing that. Yeah
Yeah, fucking cars, you know
Roadster shop chassis right on that one
Yeah, yeah, all new. She was talking about my last name. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I mean, it's fun to just have
new stuff like
You're not dealing with rusty rusty rusty cars or I mean, I mean wrong. I think there's a place in the world where
Replacing the bottom half of a car could be kind of satisfying
But it's still just for you know, placing sheet metal that was there and trying to be as accurate as possible to what it's supposed to be and not like taking liberties
The liberties is where I like being
Well, I think this is a great chance this and for two things one I'm so glad I moved out of the rust belt
It's not good
Yeah, everything I work on it's just like oh, I guess got to crack this bleeder on this 25 year old brake caliper click and it just comes loose
You know what I mean? It's just wonderful, but uh
The best thing I have seen this week is I found what I've been jokingly called calling the Japanese version of me
There is this I don't know if I sent it to you. There's a guy that took an 86 Corolla body. That's like
Complete Swiss cheese destined for the junkyard and then he built a tube chassis
for a rotary on it and he's like basically just slipping what's
You know like the roof and like the door frames over and then a little bit of the quarter panels and then he made some like wild
Over fenders for the rear that likes
Kind of like on the on my tundra how the bed sides are like slash cut up and you don't have like the full body coming down
Well, he's got that cut into the back because the whole back was Swiss cheese on it often glued a picture on here
It's really it's hard to explain, but it is like
We might have seen is it just like it looks like some garage kids putting a wide body on a car. I might have seen it
I'm not sure
It's a the the channel is Ishikawa body. It's like a body shop in Japan
They have like seven seventy thousand subscribers. I guess it's like a van shop
They're like he said in the one video that he's a van builder, but I mean sure
It's not for everybody the channel because it's you know, mostly in Japanese. There was a part of it where he was must have
Recalled like talked into his phone and then recorded Google Translate and it was like reading in the AI voice in English
Yeah, and so like some of the words they'll be like it's a pipe chassis instead of like a tube chassis and stuff like that
so but
It's definitely not like a high quality entertainment watch, but for me as
Someone who loves taking something that's completely
like gone and bringing it back like something that's
You don't have to be held up by you know like that 67 you got the thing is so clean like
It's a it would be a shame to really like hack a car like that up like you want to kind of you know
Utilize some of that clean body
That's what I was just telling the customer like it's the nicest it's the nicest
Platform to cut up because nobody's gonna be like shouldn't have done that it was you know because it's a 67 coupes six cylinder car
Right
What I'm getting at though is like I like when
It's not so nice and like such a fancy model that there's
Like you're not held up by the stigma of the value of that car
It's just you just got free reign because it's a junkyard car
And I just I don't know I enjoyed that with like that fair lady Z I had it was an imported right-hand drive
Dotson and the value on those things was just going crazy, but it was so rotten. I could just do
Whatever I pleased with it and you know at least it had a life again
I'm be sweet to do
that that
That Corolla body that's on Alibaba. So it's such a like hat. That's like a hatchback, right? It's like a pretty yep
pretty fancy Mackie car like to
Mid-engine that car like by that body and just cut, you know, it's brand new
That's got my I just like cross my mind right now like man
That'd be like you're you're so far ahead. I'd be kind of quirky because it's that car
You know because it has a following so there'd be people that are like, what are you doing?
I sent you a picture. I don't know if you got your phone on silent, but I do
What a good podcaster
Not it's pretty nuts
But they there was a video
Where they had the car sitting at some show or whatever that they had some other vehicles at like a drift track or something and
There were there was like two or three guys and they were just grabbing the tube chassis in the back and picking the back of the car
Up and then they walked to the front and then they picked the whole front of the car up with like that the engine in it and everything like it's that
lightweight
It it's just I don't know
I like to see people having fun with stuff and sometimes when you have a completely rotten car
And it seems like from what I gathered from the video the car had some history
So like with somebody they knew that was a big drifter and you know, maybe it sat in the field or something like that
So they're almost like breathing life into kind of something that was formerly cool
No, you do that. That's pretty cool
That's a lot of work though. Oh, we go I always think about because fast Freddy they he did a
Corvair we put LS in a Corvair and but it's the second gen Corvair
It's like man, who would be cool to do a first gen Corvair and kind of
Do the same thing and have to in the same area mid Wisconsin have like two LS Corvairs
What different the different gents to you know, that'd be kind of cool, but man, it's just a lot of work
I want to admit it in something but
Building it's just gonna be a headache
Yeah
Usually to get it to handle, you know, if you're gonna build the chassis to get it to actually handle good, it's gonna be
Handful, I think
There was
Not that long ago on marketplace. I wonder if it sold somebody had a Porsche 9-Eleven
Targa body that like they put on top of like a blazer frame or something because it was rusty and
They were selling the body for like under $1,000
No title no title, but I don't know
Figure it out. Yeah, pretty much nowadays that seems I'm actually seeing people advertise for it
But if you open an LLC in Nevada and there isn't anything
Red flags on the VIN number you are not Nevada Montana
You can just register the vehicle in Montana and then you can get a permanent plate for really cheap and
Then you can register stuff without a title
You know and get a title for it that way if it's a certain age and there's no red flags
Like it was a stolen car or whatever you can go that route and re-register an older vehicle pretty easily
It seems like for whatever reason Montana's real lenient on it. So you can filter
a car through Michigan and get
Base what was it a salvage title
Removed from the from the title like the salvage part removed if you filter it through there's some way to do that through Michigan
But I know Wisconsin
It's easier now than it ever has been to get a cold car and get that it doesn't have a title and get a title for it
Like it used to be a pain in the ass almost impossible
And now it's actually possible as there's just a route you have to go. I mean, I'm sure there's less resources now since the there's like
Government cuts and shit now because everything seems to be slower than it ever has been but you're still a route to get to it, you know
You're not up shit Creek if you have a car that doesn't have a title. There's there's ways of doing it
It's not necessarily going to be a fun way if the patrol have to come and do an inspection on it because that's
Never wanted
Do you remember back in the day at the swap meets where there would be the the booths set up where they sold old car titles for collectors
Documents or documents. Yeah, document collectors. Well, they got raided at at Iola for that
There's somebody that got like they took everything confiscated everything. I thought that was all
And that might be specifically where I was talking about maybe not. Yeah, yeah, it was either I was in Wisconsin
It was either Iola or the spring Jefferson. I can't remember one or two
Yeah, I don't I don't know if I showed it to you, but I had a
25 five window coupe model T body when the last couple years I was living in Wisconsin
I traded a muzzle loader for it. Oh
It's true this guy I don't I found it on
I don't know if it was craigslist or marketplace
But we drove to this middle of nowhere town
I think it was somewhere near Medford
It wasn't that long of a drive
But the guy was living on his family's
like
I don't know what the word like a homestead
No running water
No electricity. It was like his grandparents built it in the early 1900s. No running water. No electricity
He had a solar panel to charge his phone
And then I think he had a solar panel water pump on as well to pump some water out every day
Like he charged the battery and then he would pump out a little water on the battery, but uh
What what is it? Why do you have a car?
Um and the 25 model T had been sitting next to in the woods there the body next to the creek
Like there was literally three feet from it where there was running water
And it was sitting in the ground and um, he said that the neighboring property
had a
uh
another parted out model T and then there was a
um
Like a complete one
When the people because I think his grandparents and then maybe some other family owned that neighboring one
And so they think that this was like a parts car like because back in the day
If you had a couple of model T's and then one breaks down then you just start robbing everything off of it
And I think what happened is they just kept robbing everything off of this and he had it listed for pretty cheap, but he wanted to
uh trade if possible
And um, we'll just say for the story
I traded him a muzzle loader because that seems like what you would trade a guy that lives in a uh
No water and power house probably looking for some food
But um
Yeah, so I had that five window coop body and I was doing a couple things with it. I didn't have a title for it
I wasn't totally sure how to do it. I wondered if
one of those uh
Document collectors would have something but I kind of just figured I'd have to go through
You know one of the state channels to get a title for an old car
You can find if you can find a
Document that's close to what you have especially for bodies. There's no numbers on them anywhere. You just like this is my car
Always gonna know
Yeah, I ended up, um
I was gonna drag it down here when we moved but I had so much other stuff
With more monetary value that and I didn't want to make two trips
So I sold it to a kid that I worked with to build with his son
It's probably just sitting in his yard like I'd sat in my yard as a yard ornament, but
You know after 80 years sitting next to a creek. It's not like it was gonna get worse. It wasn't the floors were gone, but like um
The firewall and the the aprons and the the bidors and everything were were salvageable. So it was
It was a salvageable rat ride. I wanted to do like a tall tee with it or something
I don't know
Yeah, I don't know
Marshes below with the rough pretty rough is still remaining tall. That's pretty rad
Yeah
The thing is this model tee stuff is just so like it's
It was flooded so much that there's you can buy a done model tee for 10 grand and change it to what you want
It's pretty nice
The one customer I had with the model a that's it's he's gotten it back last winter. So um
He bought here. He built a model tee with his dad before that and he's like
I've lost my he's like I thought I could build it and at least get my money back out of it. He's like
No
well
It's hard to do like if that was a business model everybody would be doing it, you know
Like there's so many tv shows that everybody would have caught on, you know
Yeah, I don't know how many model teabodies were made, but they seem to be plentiful
All
I think people stop building them just because they're not like monetary wise. They're just not worth anything. Also, they're very tiny
I know one guy that's making
Uh from look across that's his name. He bought my camper
Well, while you're thinking I just looked it up and apparently there were 15 million model tees made
ah
That's a lot
That's a lot, but that's like
But that's from that's those are all a model tee. Like they make model tees for 10 years or something
Uh from 1908 to 1927. So basically 20 years
Very
So that's a lot of different fringes use of them, but yeah, that's a lot
Yeah, only 4.8 million model 8s, obviously that's spanning all like the touring models and the ones that people don't want
Yeah, but um
I mean you gotta think though twice as many model tees as model a's
so
They're not going to be as valuable
They're old and they're cool, but
I can't remember that guy's that that guy's name and it's
He usually listens. So it's gonna be he's gonna be like, hey, what the fuck man?
But i'm bad with names. So sorry, dude
But anyways
Yeah, I don't know
Good story talking cars. I think i'm gonna carve out between
I'm doing it. I'm committing myself between new christmas and new years. I'm working on my car
That's beautiful. Call me out on it if I don't do it, right?
All right
The podcast after christmas that we're going to say quintin. How's your car coming?
We're going live
Fuck it. We're going live
Actually kind of want to figure out uh, if I can without bogging our internet down try to livestream this
While we're recording because I think we'd get a lot but we'd get a lot more traffic if we were doing that
Yeah, I also just realized that I can put my
Computer on my backstow like anvil stand thing and it I could actually like right now. We wheel it around
You know what I'm saying some show and go
So yeah, there's some I think that'd be cool to do something like that as far as like even uh
Like could do a little bit of like what are you doing here?
You know, let's move over to the car kind of a thing. Yeah, I don't know
We'll see all in time right man
I think this is episode 13. So um, oh
That being said we we've I think we've outlasted the majority of podcasts
That's true
there's probably like
10 million of them that get to
10 episodes and that's it. Yeah, there's there's yeah, there's millions and millions of podcasts, but most don't make it
Um more than I think it's like more than five and then a really small percentage make it past 10 episodes
And we're talking hour and a half episodes. So or hour plus on ours most of them. So we're doing all right
Not that that was exciting to hear about
Three wheeling or anything with your truck this last week
I don't know if I can three wheel it. It seems like my leaps might be tight enough that um, they're acting because leapsprings act like a rear sway bar
Um
So it seems like they might be tight enough that they don't let the rear articulate enough to let me pick one up with the
Travel I have I'm thinking you gotta put some weight in the back get to a parking lot and just turn and go
Yeah, I think if I um, I don't want to do it in my cul-de-sac
But I think
In like an open cul-de-sac and I could just crank on it and then like keep pushing it up and pushing it up and pushing it up
I could probably get it off the ground
But I've tried like just in a in like um
Like going to the end of a road with a big median and then doing like the u-turn
around um, and seeing if I would but it would rather uh, just spin tires than pick the pick it up
so
It is interesting with the front end even as high as I have it now
It seems like me. I can just break the tires loose like so easy
interesting
I don't know much power
My torque curve is really weird because I can break the tires loose
But then it's like it they'll spin but it doesn't give me like a lot of rpm in the burnout
Sure
So it's like a lackluster
To go kind of where you might have like a sweet spot with your your gearing with your tires and gearing you should yeah
um
Not that I really want to burn 250 piece tires up
All the facts. Yeah, you know, but it's fun for a little while
I think um
I've been working on my
One year of videos of building the truck and putting it together as like one super edit
Um
I've been working on that all week
Um, I've been working on it since last sunday
And I am up to
Five minutes. Uh, I got about six hours editing in and I have about five minutes of video
You're gonna tell me an hour
No, no, no, no, because I want so I'm gonna do some uh extended ones. I've had build videos like uh
Like vlog style
Um as I've been going like, you know, I did like the engine build and I did this
Like an engine tear down video an engine build video. I haven't done like the suspension video
specifically because I wanted to have
You have to have a beginning and an end. Otherwise, it's it's hard to watch otherwise
You're just watching a guy wrench on or weld or whatever. So um,
Maybe that's what youtube is pretty sure that's me. That's all of what it is
You're just being hard on yourself
I'm always hard on myself, but uh, it's uh
To get people to want to watch the series. I'm doing a like a super cut where I'm just doing like a really punchy
This is what my build is. This is what it cost me. This is the end result
You know starting with the blown up truck last november. So literally one year ago
um
to
My wife making the mistake of telling me to build the truck to
Where we're at now and uh, I got the price list exactly what I spent, you know what I mean
Full regret mode
So then people if they liked it, you know, if they come in they watch, you know
A six seven minute video and they get to see this truck go from
start to begin and
You know, it's just a lot of clips. It's not um
Really focused on the build just to give you an understanding. I get that. Um
Then if they like that then there's gonna be a lot more but i'm gonna do some long
videos on like the suspension specifically
And you know things like that obviously already did pretty much everything up to that on the channel. So
um
I what I guess what I was trying to get at is I'm planning to go throw the sticky mount
On the truck and do some more
driving
Uh, there's kind of a back
Uh area in the neighborhood where there's a really wide median that I think goes down and up a bunch
And I'm thinking about just ripping median with the with the action camera on the windshield pointing at the you know
Driving I don't really have a chase vehicle
Somebody record me, you know, like driving next to me while I'm off-road
But um, I'll get I have somebody to do it just not
Right now. They're busy. They're busy this weekend, but um, I'm gonna go get a couple more action shots and pretty much wrap this thing up
So
It's fun driving it. Um, I I sent you that suspension traveling video where
I was driving it and I hit off-road and I felt like
Oh, it's not really cycling that much and then I looked at the video and it was you know going I probably had
Wasn't going crazy off-road, but I probably had six inches of travel throughout the just that little patch
And it was like, oh, it did not feel like that. So
Um, it's definitely working
So that's a bonus
Now if you were to take a stock vehicle over what you did, it would have been like lumber wagon, dude
Yeah, unfortunately with the leafs in the back. It's still
Kind of stiff and the truck's really light in the back. I'm gonna move my
Battery I'm gonna build an aluminum battery box put that in the bed. I'm gonna build a or I want to
Do some other stuff in the bed like I talked before about building a
Storage at the back behind the rear axle under the spare tire and then I got to build the tailgate the tube tailgate that holds the spare tire
I think it's like
actual like
Real world weight
Like, you know, the the right weight over the rear wheels
Even to where you're probably not going to be able to haul much
That's going to be when it's going to ride the best, you know
Yeah, that's why they always hang the spare tire kind of off over the back bumper because
They want as much weight in the back to can to keep the truck level through the, you know, when it's working
Because that's hard, you know, the the rear ends so light compared to the front. I think mine's
My truck's got about a thousand pounds more in the front almost in the back
Is that made engines things?
Um, what they do is they just sink the engine so far into the firewall
So basically their whole engine
Mounted to a plate that's behind the suspension the front suspension. So you're sitting next to it almost
It's like being in a cab over van or something
Or yeah, they kind of almost have it like a van where the the engine's like between you
We're like that too
But like, um, each one of them is over kind of like that too
Yeah
Anyway
So I just got uh
The other side of the Mustang I got the bottom of the wheel wells all done bottom of the quarter panel
The rear valence the rear bumper bolts got them aced and shaved off
I'll say get done
Why don't you show us how anvil stand works and turn towards the Mustang?
Oh
There it is
I don't want to move everything it's gonna be like trying to balance it. No, no that was fine
So you're getting more and more well done
Yeah
My uh, I have like different welding masks and helmets and stuff that I'm trying to not overly wreck my neck on so it's
It's been a lot of figuring out like what my neck can handle welding stretching my neck back out
But it's getting a lot a lot a lot better, which I'm thankful for I can definitely see where people can work all day and all night
I could probably pull that off but I have to do a lot of stretching
Before and afterwards just uh, pull it on because you know, I'm getting old gonna be 40
or zero
It's almost time to give up
you know
singing we're having a party at the shop and then I
last weekend I'm like
Fuck that. I don't really don't want to have a party, you know this weekend. I'm like
Kind of want to have a party
Wow
I always envisioned maybe having like a band here or something like that, but that seems like way too much sticking around
I don't know you just turn turn the music on it seems a lot easier
Yeah
I don't know you only get one time. That's a pretty big one
Then I'm 50 and 60 that's all like
40s the I don't know it doesn't seem like
It was like when I was growing up 40s like oh my god, it's over
I don't know. I look at kids now and I'm
like when I say kids I'm saying like
18 year old 21 year olds and and I'm like
Man, I feel like I'm not that far away from that, but I am
It's crazy
I actually noticed that um
A lot of those the guys that I talked to in their 20s
Sometimes they struggle because they look and like we'll talk to each other
And we like talk to each other on the same level and they feel like we should be pretty close
And then they have these struggles
They have these struggles because they'll be like
Yeah, and it's like hey listen, I've got literally over a decade more than you do right now. It's like yeah for sure
Yeah, I've had the same experience with a couple guys that are you know in the early 20s
And it's you almost saying the exact same things
like
I need to do this this and this we're saying the same thing and like you said 20 years difference and it's like
Calm down kid. It's they're not kids. They're adults. So it's hard to say that, you know
yeah, I always try to like
Build up the teams that I work in wherever I work and like sometimes I'll have people over and the one time
I had a couple over and they were 21 and 20 right and they come walking in the house and they're like, oh my gosh
You like you got a nice house and stuff and like they think you know, they it's hard because he looks
You know, we talk to each other like buddies. We work at the same place
We're doing kind of the same job and then he walks in the house and it's not that I have a crazy house, but um
You know, it's way better house than I had when I was 20
And they'll be like and I look and I went, you know, you work hard and in 10 years
You could probably buy a house like this too. Like it's literally the timeline I was on
But no, I've had a same experience with a
Buddy of mine. He's I said something about uh, you know
Going back to my house for lunch or something and something about uh, I said, it was just a
Whole whole freshy
nice
Nice
Are you saying something about having a house or buying a house and them being too expensive right now?
I'm like, I agree. I think they're too expensive
I'm like, I'm just lucky I bought my house when I did because it was you know
A lot more affordable than when houses are now by about half
He's like, well, at least you have a house and this and that it's like, well
I didn't when I was 20
Am I like 21 to 25? I didn't think that was even obtainable
Right
You know looking at houses was like very intimidating
Like and you're gonna sign your life away and it's but it was under a hundred grand
You know, just losing your brain over something that's under a hundred grand and now it's
Now you're now you're like a hundred grand. That's what is that?
And so yeah
Not that anybody's making a lot of money. It's just
That doesn't seem to mean as much as they used to
There's people making money and there's new buildings getting put up all the time
I mean, there's a lot of money to be had. It's just a matter of
finding the avenue to get
For some of these the younger generation there
I've had it where they want to they walk into a place
A business and they're like, well
You guys have all this and you know, they're like
It's almost the same thing as the house
But they feel like they should be farther in in business and all this stuff. It's in professionalism. It's like a lot of this is learned
The idea of like stepping back far enough to keep the longevity going of a business model
Whether it's in cars or anything like you got to zoom out a long ways
I mean, if you're zoomed in too far, you're you're gonna lose track of what's what's going on. I think
And that's very broad as far as what we're talking about but
I think a lot of it is like this generation that's brought up on
Automatic validation with their cell phone
I've had I've had a person in a collision shop
before I started here and
she wanted to
It was like buffing a hood and it was just uh
It was just paint correction stuff
But the first thing she wanted to do is put a tape piece of tape down
So she can buff one side and then do a video of peeling it first thing first fucking thing
Don't even touch the buffer yet and she's putting a piece of fucking tape down, you know, it's like
Well, you're not even here to learn. You just want to make a video and look cool. Like I don't think it's gonna work
Staying people on the internet making videos. They're the worst
Yeah, exactly
I
It's so true though. I mean it is it's like anybody you and that's the hard part about trying to do something
Uh, you know and put put your name on it on social media and in in any matter
I mean there's people on that your uh suspension video. We're knocking you about your freaking ball joint. I'm like
You know how close ball joints are to tires on fucking stock cars
You ever looking on and see how close your strut is to your tire?
You guys are idiots. Like that's a normal thing
Yeah, I literally have more wheel offset now than stock
And that's a stock spindle and hub. So I'm literally
Not any closer than factory
Stupid so it's hard to put yourself out there or not like you have to expect idiots. It's to be expected
So that's the hard part
Hey, okay, so uh, let's let's go down that avenue. So people want to make a video and they want instant gratification
We are literally
Five minutes ago. We're talking about how I'm taking a year of building a truck and filming footage and making a five minute video
right, right, right, right
Yeah, so to make a good five minutes. I have 12 months
Yeah
And I I mean I
There's uh, I love the editing part of it if I could like if there's I could see in another world of just sitting and editing
I I can see it
but it gets like
I just to get like in sitting in front of a computer. I just I can't I like see starting to see black after a couple hours
even when I was trying to uh
When I was managing a shop and stuff like that is just sitting in front of a period
Like oh my god, I just got to go out in the shop and like
Swing a hammer at something for a little bit. I don't know. I think it's just the technician in me
You know, it's not uh, it's I don't think it's anything other than that
Just like I being the technician being beaten into you from other shops, you know, yeah
Get something done. You're not doing anything. Yeah, physical production feels more uh, validating. I think then, you know
Um, I don't think we were meant to I don't think we were put on this earth to just
I mean for one be behind a screen and to work your ass off all day
We weren't I mean we were supposed to like hunt gather food and eat and then sit on your ass for nine hours
That's that's what we were supposed to do. That's what they've been doing for the last
2,200,000 years probably
Yeah, I
Agree I like so I have kind of made
The the thing I tell everybody like that wants to get into making videos and I encourage everybody is I tell them like
film what you're already gonna do
and then what I do is because I
I sure it's the dad in me, but I don't want to be a consumer consuming consuming consuming consuming swiping swiping swiping
It's so easy to get stuck into that. So what I do is I take the time
I'm doing things and then I film in whatever way is basically the easiest for me
obviously that's
stepped up and up and up along the over the years of making 2000 something videos, but um
I try to film in a way that isn't interrupting too much of what I'm doing
Um, we all take a second step back and look at what we're doing. That's just normally is a time for me to move the camera
While we're working on something and then I use my downtime like when I got to come in because it's Florida
I'll come inside and I'll sit on the couch and cool off for a little bit. I'll use that time to edit videos
and so I feel
Like I'm still being productive when I'm like sitting down and cool enough because I
I think I'm lazy like if I'm sitting around so like if I can use that time to at least produce something
I feel you know better about it because
My my crazy and me is I have to create not no
I don't mean create like be a creator and social media. I just mean in general. I need to be
Making something. I need to be fixing something. I need to be producing like that's my job
As that's what the testosterone in me needs to to be converted into into creation. So
Um, that's what that so I I use my my downtime to edit
And so like if I have more downtime or it's crappier outside or I'm just too tired to work on something
I'll edit even more and so like I'm just trying to
Convert energy into some sort of output not just endless consumption
I get that
Yeah, I get that
Yeah
So is there like a
if you had
a
Let's say you had a hundred you had a hundred grand somebody was like you need a
I would say thank you
No, you get you you either get to buy you either get to buy multiple cars or one car
And what is it? What is it slash? What are they?
100 grand
To buy a car now. No, I can't I can only spend this on the purchase of vehicles
Well, let's just for the for the sake of well, would you rather it be a done a done vehicle or a project?
Let's start there
It would end up being a project
You think so
I maybe not like a severe project
I think I would go like
Not a race car, but almost a race car
Like that's somebody that's something that somebody's already kind of put together probably
If I had a hundred grand and I could buy an actual trophy truck, maybe that's what I would do
I just saw one actually there wasn't it wasn't that expensive and there was one
Because in wisconsin, there's a lot of trucks. It wasn't that far away from here
It was definitely not road legal. I'm sure you could probably like wire, you know, like make it road legal as far as like
Nobody's gonna fuck with you, but it was like 55 or something
It wasn't bad. Like as I honestly looked at it multiple times. I'm like
That looks really fun. Like and to be able to
Get into something for 55 grand and not necessarily be like
Right into the competition, but be able to actually go around the track at Crandon. Holy shit. That would be fucking fun
like
55 grand to launch it like and you can launch it
Like it was that truck, you know, that'd be sweet
Yeah, but I don't know. I don't think I would I would definitely be buying something. Uh,
That was a corvette
I don't think I would buy if I had a hundred. I don't think I'd buy it. It would have to be there. It would have to be, uh
I
Don't even know. I don't think it would be uh, I mean
It would definitely be something corkier than that
Oh, yeah, let's you know, if it's like I have the money and it's going to be
You know, I
I think uh, like a like a race car or somebody already put together that you could modify for the street
potentially
Something like that if I had
basically
I would go and get to that internet breaking car that we talked about and I would sink
95 grand in it
Yeah
I could see that
The problem is with some of the time it's just you gotta have the time to
I mean, you can buy 50 grand in parts and it's still nothing
Like you can you can have 80 grand and it's still just parts on a shelf
It's not a car. So
That's the hard part. I mean, it'd be cool to if you're gonna build something like, uh
Roadster shot build or they have a
Not that I'm in love with panterras, but they have a chassis for a pantera
So you could fuck with a pantera a little bit. That would be, you know, mid-engine that'd be pretty neat
um
You could have something to scan
That'd be pretty cool
Just have something really quirky scanned and have a chassis made for that
So I guess maybe a hundred. No, I would still buy something done. I'd still buy something done for sure
Yep
Even though it's that mid-engine
Factory five car. I don't know if you've ever seen that
I'm gonna send you a picture. It's really good. They're pretty sweet
They look there was one for sale in
I think it was like Milwaukee and they wanted like 55 grand and had an LS in it. It was really really cool
I don't think I've looked at factory five stuff in 10 years
The other reason I
I mean, I've had a customer that had a factory five
Car that came so I was contacting factory five as far as like body fitment stuff and
Yeah, I mean
They're
They were helpful on the phone, but they were the problems I was having were
It was pretty hilarious. So it was
um
We're having problems as far as like getting the body to fit up on the stroke on the chassis far enough and
like the customer kind of threw it together
And had me kind of he's like the body's ready for the body's ready for body work and it was not finished mounted and
It was just like a lot a lot a lot
And we were it was just a lot of body fitment issues
As far as like I think it should be one thing, but it's a kick car and you kind of have to
It's when they call it a kick car and you're you're going into it thinking it's a regular car body. It's not it's like it's very
Kit car ish
So you're just everybody's making their own
Way, you know getting things to fit their own way everybody's having their own
There's people that just like buff the body and leave them raw and there's like that the bodies are rough
The seams are fricking like there are some that seams were like an inch tall where the yeah
And you ground some of the seams you ground down and you were through
Because they there weren't enough in the backing like where they connected them. It's it was a fucking nightmare
You know, I wasn't exactly a huge fan of factory five stuff, but I get it the prices there
I mean if a guy were to make it out of aluminum, it'd be another 60 grand
They don't too much for those kids and when you look at what they get for an aluminum body cobra
It's a significant jump
Well, aluminum versus fiberglass there is a significant jump
That's where it's the fitment and the fit and finish
of
Of them. I mean, it's it's hard for I would suspect it's pretty hard for a business to sell a car
Have a following for it, but they don't necessarily finish them themselves
Right you almost have to offer
Offered finished ones also that's where I was just kind of really blown away that like
Well, this is this they're telling me this is how you do it. This is how you do it
And this is how other shops do it
But they've never done it themselves like
not
I mean, well, so they're like, well, well, yeah, I have done it myself in my garage. I'm like, okay
So what did you do?
Well, I had to do this and I had to do that like so everybody's got a different story and everybody's cars fit differently
like
Is it because they all the bodies come from South Africa and like they're just building these two chassis and throwing them underneath of them
Like I just don't
I don't get it
it was um
Like the chat the body sits the top of the body
sits on
a piece of flats
I think it's flat flat stock steel. It's got an arch in it with like
a
Fun noodle not a fun noodle, but it looks like that cut down the center with you know
Just like foam down it and the body just sits on that. There's no attachment points in the top
So the top of the body is just held by
the windshield posts
Not moving it and the roll bar posts not moving sideways side to side in front to back
Like from the top of the body point that everything just
That's how I expect it to be done
Yeah, it's like there's no real like this is how it looks like or this is how it is finished
It's like no, it just all floats and hopefully it all lines up when you take it down the road. It's like
I don't know how you can expect the doors to shut properly every time and you know, it's just very very cheesy
I mean, I don't want to speak bad on the company, but maybe uh
Maybe that's a fiberglass body thing, you know
Yeah
Well, I mean every
Imagine if you had a steel body that you didn't mount properly
How's the doors going to shut every time if the aprons can move and you know what I mean
The unicide wasn't connected to something sturdy imagine
but uh
Yeah, that's wild
You know florida's the wildest part
The wildest part about those cars is there's no
There is zero steel structured
from a side impact
Yeah, that's kind of scary
Like even even from where you're the the tube the tubes the main tubes that run down the chassis
Are right underneath of you. So if you were to get hit it's directly into you
Like there's no it's
If it's an actual hit you're getting it's going through the body and it's hitting you and the frame rail almost at the same time
It's pretty nuts
I can't imagine having anything that didn't have like reinforcement in the door and then at the rocker
Right
That's kind of scary
After after you know like digging around on one and and getting the body to fit we got to fit pretty decent
And then they got the roof. Um, they got a roof from
427 hardtops. It's like a removable hard top
And it makes the car looks ultra cocky
I've never seen a cobra that I I like we put the roof on it and set back and I'm like, dude, I want one
This is fucking cool. Um, but uh
There there's limitations to that to the the aftermarket. It's like aftermarket on aftermarket, you know
But the roof that we got from 427 hardtops was actually the nicest part of the whole vehicle
that was like the the gel coat was literally like
Not even a nib in it. It was sand it down put your put some
Surfacer down and just paint it like it's it was ready to go like fucking nice nice as it should be
Yeah, right, right, but it was
Well, he told me how much it was and it was it wasn't 20 grand, but it was over 10
Including
Including shipping. Yeah, but when you looked at it you look at the inside the inside had a it wasn't just one layer of fiberglass
It had an inside layer that had in like a
Interior spray like velvet interior sprayed on it. Um, it was the channel was there
It had all the latches the side windows the stainless the stainless and another
I think it was like mock stainless or I can't remember what it was for trimmer on the windows
there's like it was a whole kit it was
if you're going to get into
A roof on a factory five or a cobra
I would not the factory five came out with their own
that um
Their own removable roof on the mark five that they did but it removes the wind you have to take the windshield with it
So you're removing the windshield with the roof and then replacing and then putting a different windshield in it for
In verbal style, right?
Well, this roof retains the windshield that factory five has or your or your kit has you sometimes have to deal with the angle angle difference
um
But you're just removing the roof and man
It's ultra light
Like the only reason I can't lift it by myself is just because it's awkward
But like me and the wife lifting it off super duper easy
It's like two two latches a couple screws and you're like lifted it off. It's pretty awesome
Well, that's what I thought, you know, even uh, well, you know
We're talking about those cobra bodies and the guy that's building cobra bodies and he's trying to sell his business
If you did a roof
Did a cobra with a roof and then a reselled front and a rear end
Like it's a whole different car at that point, right? Like a whole part
Yeah, well, I mean
They took a austin haley and restyled it and then you had a cobra and that's a whole different car
You know what I mean originally
um
Yeah, that's pretty wild. What's your thoughts on the Daytona coupes the shelbies
I think they're pretty cool. I have a customer that has uh the guy with the national shop. Um
his girlfriend has uh
Some I don't know. So somebody that he knows has a factory five Daytona and I mean, it's kind of the same thing. They're
I think
Finding one that's done, you know, I think it would be beneficial
People think that they can buy this kit and they're gonna put it together themselves
And there's a guy in town here that wanted those doing a cobra and he wanted me to he thought he could
paint the body off of the chassis and then just put it on
I'm like
Do it's like a it's like
It's like a big flimsy piece of shit when you're having off the pie. It's like a big just
So I think it's gonna crack out. But anyways, um back to that Daytona. It was
They're cool cars, but they all need like
Think because they're all kit cars and everybody has their own way of putting them together and finishing them. There's all different
Fit there's all different fit and finishes out there. So
And everybody thinks that well, this this factory five was worth 55 grand. So mine should be worth that, right?
and it's like, uh
So, I mean, I even offer if if that customer I said what at one time
I'm like if they want if you want to sell that car like I would definitely be interested in a Daytona
That'd be really really cool, right
It's blue and white
It's like the quintessential blue and white and then on the back. It's got half blue half white
It's like it's cocky looking car with the right if you lowered it down with the right rims and tires
That would be like really really banging. Um, but
You know, he's like, well
It she thinks it's worth that and also like
It needs this and it needs that and I'm like, well, it doesn't sound like it's worth what you want. Like yeah, I was like, well
Yeah, I don't want
No, thanks, you know
I've um
I've always loved the proportions
and the slash cut back on them like that they just
But just so purpose built they're not like uh, they don't follow the rules really, you know what I mean
As far as aesthetics go, hey
I mean
I always there are I mean, they're really close to being
I don't think to me it's not exactly the lines like it needs like another three percent of tweaking
I think to make the proportions like perfect perfect in my eyes, but man, I would I would drive the hell out of it
Oh, yeah, and there's not a lot of Daytona's around so even to just have one drive around it's not like traffic
It looks it doesn't look like traffic
It looks like some what the fuck is coming down the road, you know
Yeah, they're almost like a jaguar e-type
uh
They're similar to that almost like the front end and the roof line
Yeah, there's like old Ferrari in it too. I can see, you know, there's a lot of stuff
Oh, I would drive it. I would love it
But I don't know if I want one for like
I don't know if a guy would like one for like I think 55 grand is it would have to be a nice
Nice nice version of them just because it's fiberglass and i'm a picky bitch as far as like fit and finish on a on a body
If i'm gonna be paying for something
I mean, that's probably me being
It's probably still cheap, you know, even if it it was decent if it's a
Legit drivetrain and stuff. I think 55 grand would probably be nice, but I don't know. It's me just being a cheap bitch, too
I mean if it drove decent and the doors closed
That'd be one thing
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure
He drives it here from like I think 45 or 50 minutes away. So I mean he's like
He kind of complains well when he gets out though
Anybody that's used to like having
Automotive aesthetics gets into
Not a race car but kind of a race car. It's kind of a different driving experience, you know
It's gonna be hot in the summertime, you know complaining about it being hot in the summertime in a car like that's like
You should be wearing worse clothes. Yeah
Put some shorts on dude
Get the get the little vents down by your feet where you crack them open when you're going on the highway
Yeah blows the shorts up
It's not bad
You appreciate it
Yeah, I mean I would still entertain the idea of of uh, I still have a picture of it that I stare at once in a while
But I don't know the last time I talked he seems like it might it doesn't seem like it was the very obtainable, but
Yeah, you know
You never know well, you don't have your hundred grand a whip out right yet, so
No, I don't have it at all
Not at all if I if I did I'd be probably buying a property with the money, but what for down payment
Yeah, I don't
It's just a hypothetical Ethan get off my back
Come on, man. I'm holding you to this
Yeah, right
Oh, yeah
I don't know it'd be cool to buy a bunch of uh
Just buy like a couple vehicles that are done, you know that you don't have to worry about but seemingly a hundred grand doesn't buy anything
That's like ultra cool
and
nice
right like
Silver out was really not that nice anymore
I have not um
I've built a lot of stuff
I don't know that I've built anything that was ultra cool and nice for myself, but I've kind of come to realize over
20 years of grinding and cutting on stuff that uh
I don't
Like I like the option of driving stuff, but it seems like everything I build I just like
Rarely drive it. I just it to me. It's like all the the
The love is just put into working on stuff and staring at it
Now I mean I like to me I like the chase
You like the what?
Like the chase of finding find like even the old car stuff like trying to find uh, like when I say old car stuff
I'm talking like
50s and older like
Physically trying to find the right part if you're trying to stay somewhat traditional. That's like that's really fun sometimes
And swap meeting trying to find that one needle in a haystack part. It's pretty fun. It gets exhausting, but it's pretty fun
Yeah
I still like driving them more
I don't know. I like driving them. Um, I've realized
Now that I've got the truck together that
I am just not that aggressive of a driver like I
I'm so like I'll be like, all right. I'm gonna hit this really fast and I'll as soon as I'll like set the camera up
I'll hop in the truck. I'll hammer the gas and like right as I come up to it. I'm like break break break
turn
It's how you trophy truck man. You're not supposed to break before you're supposed to hit it. You're supposed to foot down
Yeah
um the exhaust
Definitely after um, so I put headers on it when I put the motor in it just some stainless
shorties and then um
It doesn't have cats because they clogged up and um florida doesn't test for anything
and then um
When I got rid of the majority of the exhaust and put the flow master on there, it is a lot snappier on the bottom end
Nice, so that's cool. Take the wind there, but um
my kid and I were I picked him up from
something the other day and um
We were hitting the train track and right as I was hitting it
He said something and so like right at the the apex of the train track
I slammed the gas and it it just made you feel a little light. You know what I mean?
It was pretty pretty fun. Got him excited
That does sound pretty fun
But I I haven't quite gotten myself to send it into the air, but baby steps plus
Baby steps kind of still testing everything. It's only got like
30 miles on the new suspension, so
Probably uh ease into it. Yeah, that's not a good idea. Not a bad idea
Yeah
Yeah
It's being uh salt's flying in this uh area now and there's still people driving driving fucking I've seen the course
I've seen a c8 convertible friday driving around salt. I mean there's piles of salt on corner intersections
I've seen uh, oh yesterday we seen a 60
It was a small back window, so I had to be like a 67 c 10
Four wheel drive long bed fully restored
Fucking awesome paint driving around in the salt
Old couple driving it. I'm like they're living their best life. They don't give a fuck
That's pretty awesome. Yeah, I mean it is what it is, you know, you can complain about it all day long
But it's like it's their money. Shut the fuck up
Yeah, I mean, uh, isn't it about having fun anyways
Yeah, I mean when I've seen it was like an elder like an older couple. I'm like, ah, I'm not even like
Maybe like at first I pull up and I look over at my wife. I'm like, what the fuck is this?
What are they doing? I look at the older couple. I'm like
Ah, they're just really asked. Yeah
If it was some kid I would be like you dumb prick
I uh did a friend's
square body like a garage restoration of my friends and uh
It was his dad's truck. It was a 78 and we just did everything factory. He even wanted like single stage
Which I try to talk him out of but he wanted everything done
He didn't want it super perfect. He wanted like a factory truck
He wanted like his dad's truck when his dad got because his dad got like a year old or something like that
So we did that and then I ended up having to deliver it in the salt, which I hated but you know it
He pretty much
He picked it up drove and then there was a car wash like literally on his block
So he did the whole undercarriage wash and then put it in the garage. So
That's the worst. That's like literally worse than
I think that's the worst
You're driving it in salt and then you're getting it wet and pushing the salt into every crevice
Like it's the fucking worst
Yeah
Like that's the worst
But anyway, thankfully this friend of mine is one of those lunatics that like takes waste oil and sprays it in all the door
The door dams and stuff. So it it's good and oiled down. I'm sure of it, but
When I was uh coming out of high school and working in shops, there was up in medford. There was a guy that had
67 to 72 style truck
And it was like not it wasn't like restored or anything
But it was all original and very solid
But it would drip he took he had like a spray gun with oil in it and he would just
Spray them but like it dripped oil everywhere like literally out of every panel inside of everything was dripping oil from everything
I can't imagine working on the thing. It had to been just like layers and layers of grease
But underneath it's all fresh and good. So
Yeah, I had to do cab corners on this truck and I can tell you that there was a lot of
Before I could weld anything just like cleaning everything out a lot of brake cleaner and wax and grease remover just to weld new panels on
Yeah, that's I mean
Especially with some of these trucks where some of the body shops have
Done repairs before that's usually the worst
Yeah, there was a shop in town that their idea of fixing your wheel well rust was
cutting it out
So
Putting rust proofing on
And then getting a big enough flare to just put over the top and then leave it rust proofed and open
Because that's not gonna do it. It's not gonna get worse then
Oh
Yeah, cutting the whole box side loose is a fucking good idea. Yeah, they don't they don't need to be uh stuck together at that wheel arch
Yeah, you cut the rusty box side
Apart and then it lasts longer
Right, come on guys
They would glue everything too
They wanted me to glue rockers and cab corners. Like you're flanging the edge gluing and riveting counter sinking rivets
Yeah, dude
It's like a whole like trying to wrap your mind around what other shops want you to do sometimes is like
What you can see why the industry is where it is
Yeah, like you want you're you're just trying to get this thing down the road like I understand you're
You're just trying to glue this car together and you think it's going to last longer
Because it's not you're not creating corrosion problem with welding
well
When rust gets behind it and starts pushing it loose it pops the whole fucking thing off
I know personally know of a guy that glued rocker panels on his truck
At one point shut the door and the rocker panel fell on the ground
So their solution after that was put rivets in it so it doesn't do that like so it all breaks loose and still like
It's not the answer. Come on
I worked at a body shop where the the top flat rate body tech bed sides
He would tack weld four corners and the rest is just well bonded
There's a guy in there's a guy. I know that would paint them before gluing them on
That's a that's honestly a sadly a common practice
That's insane things and then gluing them on
That's nuts to me
That's wild just to think about
yep
Absolutely nuts
Hmm. This is really taking a turn
Well, that's uh, there's a there's a large push for
um
I can't remember what insurance company just pushed for it
but for oe standards because the insurance companies are pushing
Their standards as far as like well 3m says their glue can do this and 3m says
It's stronger than uh, weld and this and that so they're going to buy these aftermarket guidelines
Of repairing it. Well the eagle collision
lawsuit in texas
Has brought forth all these issues as far as
What is the repair responsible for if a roof comes off of a car?
from a repair
Who's responsible for it? Is it the shop that did it or is it the insurance company that delegated the repair?
Well, it's honestly on the shop. So now
Now your shops are putting their foot down saying we need to do all these oe
Repairs as far as if there's a procedure
We need to be following it because if something happens the liability gets pushed to them not you not us. It's them
so there's a large large push for that and it needs to happen but
All of the things that need to happen in the insurance the auto insurance industry
Are just going to further push the rates like it's just going to make things ultra ultimately more expensive
um, so it's just like
Pushing inflation farther than it needs to go to in my eyes. I mean
To a certain extent it's just in insurance companies being greedy
That's my personal opinion when they don't pay for a physical primer on an estimate. That's fucking bananas to me
Everybody let's the truth in sensual nonsense you go you it says repair on an estimate
That's that it says let's say it's a it's a dent like it's a whatever size dent and they say it's a five hour repair
Well, if you go and dig deep into what all of that means
And you're going to go into the what they call p-pages and like figure out what does a repair mean?
It means
It means put taking the dent out and getting it into filler work up to 100 grit
That's their definition. So it's not not feathering anything out. It's not priming it. It's not the cost of the primer
So there's so then we started introducing feather block and prime. So that's paying for all those actions
So now you're trying to educate
An industry that doesn't even know what the hell fixing the car looks like
You know, it's just it's
manning
Yeah, well insurance companies don't get
Don't aren't profitable if they're paying everything out. So they uh
Their business model generally is to not let's let's I the only pushback I have to that is every ceo wants
I I had a list on my desk of all the ceo's how much money they made more
than the year before
So when I have progressive calling me and telling me they can't afford to pay for primer and d-nib and finesse the the
And the clear coat on the on a job. They're telling me they can't afford it
I'm like, dude, your ceo just made 10 million more this year than he did last year
And because of things like this
So it's either you pay us this and your boss fights and now he's paying you
Your boss the boss ahead of that to all get your heads together and figure out why you're not paying us
And then ultimately say you're not gonna pay for it anyways
That ultimately is more expensive than you just paying us like just pay it. That's it. It's easy
I understand the body shops in the 80s and early 90s had it dicked and they just kind of fuck
That's the reason why the insurance company position the body shops are in the position they're in but
Boy, it's fucking bad
Like when even when uh, there was a body shop in in medford that had they had their shit together
They had the rates were right. Um, they were they actually got progressive out of the area because they were
They were giving basically saying they're not that they weren't paying for the things they need to pay for and they were pushing the
The cost of the customer and then it got so far down the line that progressive actually
Were almost phased out of the area
but when
that
Shop changed hands to the sun. It was like starting over with these insurance companies. So it's like
It's just fight after fight after fight with these people and it's it's fighting over things that are just
literally ridiculous like
Yep, like you don't need you don't need that good of a part like buying junkyard stuff from literally all over the country
We got to get off this insurance company deal
To me, they're just investment companies. That's not an insurance company. They don't insure shit
engage
rage
rant
engaged
Yeah, I can't stand it like there is a
But when you get into the morality of what they're doing and
What they're supposed to be doing and what they actually do is it's not it's I mean
In any insurance company doesn't seem like there's you can say one thing but it's you're gonna contract your way out of that and fuck around
anyways
It's a car good
What are you working on this week?
I think we're gonna go I gotta talk to customer
But I think we're gonna put some time in on the model. They get some of that rough welded together
I have a lot less well to do. I don't know
I don't know how many feet of welding last thing so I just have the roof seen across the back some spot welds
and then
Finish everything out then I can get moving on to the
You moved on to the bottom of the quarter panels the wheel openings
the flanges remade and
the body line in the back
The bottom of the quarter panels in the back but trunk where they meet the trunk and all that there. It's all fucked up
So I don't know. I wish they made just quarter panels for it. They would just buy quarter panels and put them on but
What are you gonna do?
Make some welded in
I think all I have planned is uh, I'm gonna go through and bleed my brakes again
I was messing with the proportioning valve and
There must have been some air
Built up in the rear brakes, but since I had it
Um, kind of closed off that it didn't didn't go through right away
So I was messing with my proportioning valve the one day and then all of a sudden brakes got real squishy
So, um, they work at the bottom of the pedal. They work great, but um, I think there's just got to be some air trapped in there
But when you're tear a lot of it apart, you kind of have to fight some air bubbles, especially if you're just bleeding manually
I might actually go borrow a vacuum setup and just suck it all out. But um
With my my car here, I um accidentally put the calipers on upside down. So that was pretty fun
So the bleeders are like, the brakes look like shit. No, you put them on upside down. Oh fucking ding ding
Yeah, that'll that'll do it. Um, yeah, I think I'm gonna do that and then I'm just gonna try to drive this thing and
Hopefully get some better action shots
I don't know. I gotta break it in
Get comfortable just pounding on it
You can do like have your wife go down just on the highway and shit and just like flat foot it next to her or stuff like that
I'd be pretty great. Pretty cool. Yeah, it's not super loud
for whatever reason that
that uh, 4.7 liter v8 is like pretty mellow, uh, mannered
but, um
It sounds good like it's throaty. It's healthy, but it's not like
It's not like a small black Chevy screaming loud. You know what I mean?
So even when I had it straight pipe
Uh, when I when I was doing the exhaust you have to any time you're doing exhaust on your own vehicle
You always have to start it up straight pipe and hear it
Or as like I like to call it the no masters
starting it up with a no masters on it, but uh
It's just really not that loud it was a kind of funny when I switched the engine out
I went from the log style stock manifolds to the
You know, they're not equal length, but I put headers on it and it is the the amount of noise at the
From from the exhaust or like at the engine is so much quieter now because it's just smooth
It's like the exhaust balls aren't fighting each other
So there's less like turbulence in the in the header and so it's just it's smoother and quieter
But uh, yeah, I want to do some like yeah driving
I told my friend we would put the suction mount on the side of his truck
And he can just chase me down the road and I'll just
The area we live in has a lot of like uh
four-wheeler and side-by-side trails right in the neighborhood
So you can be driving on the road and and there's like a sand trail right next to it kind of like
You know not at all like california or the desert ones where they're driving on the highway and the guy's hitting like all the
Whoops right next to it, but uh, you know, we have a milder
softer sand version of that and then
I want to do some of those and yeah like where the camera's on the back of the vehicle and then my truck
You know like I throttle up and then pass them and stuff like that
Now the fun starts instead of just
Yeah, the the action camera I bought I bought specifically for being able to do rollers because you can uh
It's handy
You can take the screen in the back and flip it up so I could have this hanging down six on a
on a
Uh like stick six inches off the road and I can flip the screen up to however I want so I can see
What I'm filming what's happening. Oh, that's you know, whereas like a gopro. It's just on the back or on the front
So I got that for this and then um
I
Want to do a bunch of shots like that
You know, right, you know, I've been in the lat for the year last year
I've been in like the trudge mode of just like trucking along building the truck and getting it to a place and now
It's like people pull up and they're like
Whoa, you have a trophy truck in your driveway. I'm like not really but it's pretty sweet
And then any time
Yeah, anytime I like have the hood flipped open and it's like the big flip front end and it's tipped forward
everybody always gets a kick out of that but
What it needs to really set it off is a
Roll cage in a v12. I think
I think you need a roll cage. What the hell are you gonna do the roll cage?
That's like worst-case scenario. Just it's different the chassis up
Yeah, I guess
That's really what it's about. It's not so much about um, I'm gonna roll my vehicle over. It's more so because I mean
realistically that a truck cab is
Designed to take a roll over
Slightly, you know, but um
More than like a sixth muscle car, you know, definitely. Oh, yeah
so, um
Basically, I want to do the engine cage because I want to get rid of the aprons because they just severely limit my my
suspension movement where you know, the wheels can tuck
um
So I want to do get rid of the aprons do an engine cage and mount the core support probably do a bigger radiator
Well, I won't have a radiator up there if I do a v12, but um, I want to do that just for suspension clearance and then
You just cage it at the cab and everything just to stiffen the chassis up because it the tundra
Doesn't have a box chassis the whole way through so there is
Some wiggle to it if you're really pounding the hell out of it, but um
In time in time that's phase two
Or I don't think there's any truck
If you're going through some from some whoopee shit and you look in the mirror that your cab isn't flexing
To your box, you know, I mean shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah
so
baby steps, I don't know if I'm gonna
Just drive mine and then start really going ham on my kid's truck or
I don't know. I I sent out some spoilers to a couple to an importer for a for an engine
We'll see where that
I sent a follow-up email on friday. We'll we'll see. I'll have to call them at some point, but uh
We'll get there. So maybe I'll go heavy on my kid's truck. I just enjoy mine
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About this episode
A deep dive into a $100k project car, focusing on a customer's vintage Mustang build. The hosts discuss the challenges of maintaining the car's vintage feel while upgrading its performance, including suspension choices and engine modifications. They share personal stories about their own projects, the nuances of working with fiberglass bodies, and the complexities of insurance in the automotive repair industry. The conversation is filled with humor and camaraderie, making it relatable for anyone who has tackled a car project.
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Welcome back to the F_cking Cars Podcast, where Ethan and Quintin dive deep into the builds, breakdowns, and bullshit that shape real shop life. Every week we tackle the projects on our lifts, the chaos happening in the automotive world, and the stories that only come from long nights in the garage. From custom fabrication to wild engine swaps, questionable Craigslist finds, and the philosophy behind why we keep doing this to ourselves—nothing is off-limits.
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