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700 Tank 700
A large, boxy luxury off-road vehicle from Chinese automaker GWM that looks similar to a Mercedes G-Wagon and surprisingly features a powerful V8 engine.
Car
Nissan Patrol (Y62)
A very large, powerful SUV made by Nissan that is famous for its smooth V8 engine and ability to tow heavy trailers or caravans across tough terrain.
Person
Jack Wei
The billionaire boss of Great Wall Motor, a major Chinese car company that makes popular off-road SUVs and trucks.
Car
G-Class Gwagon
The G-Class is an expensive, box-shaped SUV made by Mercedes-Benz. Originally designed for military use, it is a luxury vehicle that combines heavy-duty off-road capability with a high-end interior.
Car
Land Range Rovers
The Range Rover is an expensive, luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It is designed to offer a smooth, comfortable ride like a high-end limousine while still being able to drive through deep mud and rough trails.
Car
Prado / Meru
The Prado is a medium-sized SUV made by Toyota. It is a slightly smaller and more affordable version of the famous Land Cruiser, designed to be easy to drive in the city while still being great for off-road camping trips.
Car
Toyota Land Cruiser (300 Series)
Toyota's flagship luxury off-road SUV. The latest version swapped out the old V8 engine for a more modern, high-tech twin-turbo V6 engine.
Concept
flex
How much a vehicle's wheels can move up and down over bumps. Good 'flex' means the tires stay pressed against the ground even when climbing over big rocks or deep ruts.
Car
Kia Carnival
A very popular family minivan that is great for carrying lots of kids and luggage, and can even tow light trailers or small caravans.
Car
Kia Tasmans
The Tasman is a pickup truck made by the South Korean company Kia. It is designed to carry cargo in an open utility bed and drive on rough roads.
Car
Dodge Ram
This is a very large American pickup truck made by Ram. It is built for hauling heavy loads, towing trailers, and carrying passengers in a spacious cabin.
Car
Mitsubishi Triton (MQ)
A popular mid-sized pickup truck (called a 'ute' in Australia) that is great for daily driving and weekend off-road adventures without costing as much as some rivals.
Term
recovery points
Strong metal loops bolted directly to a vehicle's frame. They are designed to safely connect tow straps or ropes when pulling a stuck vehicle out of sand or mud.
Term
kinetic rope
A special, stretchy rope used to pull stuck cars out of mud or sand. Because it stretches like a rubber band, it pulls the stuck car out much more smoothly and safely than a stiff chain or strap.
Concept
air down
Letting air out of your tires before driving on soft ground like beach sand. This makes the tires wider and flatter, helping the car float on top of the sand instead of digging in and getting stuck.
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Yeah.
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It's a simple design.
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It's it'll do the job.
I'll probably put an image on screen right now.
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I'll write that down.
You're going to have you're going to show the people what we've got coming before it's
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Have good on you.
No, why not?
No, no, no secrets here.
No secrets here, mate.
We just not just tell it straight down the line.
Should we mention the elephant in the room then?
Well, whilst we're not hiding nothing and oh yeah, the power is ended.
The deals ended.
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It was and I you actually have one on the desk waiting for me.
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Ronnie obviously hasn't seen last week's episode because he has not contacted us about the
yeah, no, he hasn't contacted us about our new supply of hunt and brews, which is a bit
weird.
Yeah, he's probably he's probably just jealous.
I feel like the next trip he makes, he will be swinging by.
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Will we be giving him videos built by the will we give me many?
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They're not exactly flying out to the gym because we all can enjoy normal milk.
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So a big shout out to hunt and brew.
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Getting on board.
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And this tip.
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We also went, you know, the quality tip, the tough dog, but the Terrain Tamer, you've
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I've been like, OK, I mean, I'll back in, I don't, I'm.
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We've got a few Terrain Tamer tips coming in.
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Just before we hear Jayden's, it's, as of recording, it is the end of the month.
It is the end of the month.
So do we need to.
We'll be, we'll be announcing.
Yeah.
We'll be announcing soon.
Probably next week.
Yes.
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Probably next week.
We'll announce it because we'll go through and we'll have a look.
But Jayden Hart this, this week.
So the first one of this month, 1st of June, July.
Obviously.
Obviously.
We'll start there.
Obvious to some.
Obvious to some.
Not to me, apparently.
Jayden Hart, he says, hey boys, got to Terrain Tamer tip of the week.
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I think that's a great tip.
Take an extra rubbish bag.
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It's a tip that we all know.
It's a tip that we need reminding on.
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It's a tip we love, but it's a, take your rubbish to the tip.
Take your rubbish to the tip.
It's a tip for rubbish.
It's a rubbish tip.
Tip to go to the tip.
It's a good rubbish tip.
It's a basic, simple tip that I think Jayden, just a good reminder.
We all need it at times.
Yeah.
Jayden's done a great job there and a great name from the, from the young man.
That's the only reason you put that tip in there.
That's the only reason.
So we go, oh Jayden.
Yeah.
There's plenty of other tips for this.
This is my favorite one.
Yeah.
Come on, mate.
It's a good tip.
I call him Hardy.
We're on from Hardy.
Or Hardy.
No, no, Hardy.
We're good mates.
Hardy and all.
You and Hardy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's what we call.
And I actually use his name, Jayden, because it's an average name.
We got Hardy.
Fair call, fair call.
Yep.
At least it's something.
Or Jaydog.
He's the original.
Oh, Jaydog.
He's the original Jaydog.
You are the second Jaydog.
So I'm just an imposter.
Okay.
I love.
Things I'm going to think about now in the podcast here.
I'm a bit rattled now.
You bloody sent me.
Look, I think it's a great tip.
You carry extra bin bags anyway.
Might as well fill them up.
Yep.
You're probably not doing that.
Liam's aren't very good at keeping Australia tidy.
I don't reckon.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
There's a return.
There's a little clip.
No, no.
A little clip.
Well, you've got to go camping to clean up campsites.
Yeah, as you can say.
You can't just go on the curb.
Which neither of us have.
Neither of us have.
I'm actually going camping next week.
Taking a couple of days off work.
Going away.
Unlike you.
It is unlike me, mate.
But I figured I've got a lot of leave.
Yep.
And I might as well take some of it.
Where are you heading?
Heading down south.
So going to go down to Forest down there.
Specific?
Oh, I'm not going to be too specific.
But probably you probably want to like around Pemberton area.
I think.
Yeah, down near like Kerry Valley type thing.
That is very specific.
So I actually have got away from what I was saying.
You're not naming the camps.
You're not naming the camps.
I'm not naming the camps.
No, no, no.
Look, if you find me, you find me.
I don't think people are going to be looking for me.
Like we said at the start.
There's no secrecy.
There's no secrecy.
I'll be dropping the pin on full podcast stories.
Yep.
I'll be dropping the pin.
So make sure now that you've said that,
if you drop the pin and people rock up and you're not out there,
they're picking up rubbish.
Yeah.
I'm in trouble on it.
I will hear that.
Jane, you picking that one up?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to come camping.
I'm just going to pick it up.
You.
Liam's are the type of folks.
You missed one.
Yeah.
So you asked Jaden's mate.
No, no, no.
We're the ones out there cleaning up after the people.
Jaden Hart, Jaden Allison, both correct.
Yeah, thank you, mate.
No, look, you wouldn't be able to find me
because you're not on social.
So.
Yeah, no.
I don't know how you're getting the pin.
Well, I'll be in the convoy.
That's not what I'd find.
You'd be pulling it right behind you, mate.
Isn't that right?
Yeah.
You want to come?
Come on, you can't take.
When are you going?
You can't take time off.
Not this weekend.
No, not this week.
It'll be next week.
It'll be like a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I reckon.
Yeah.
We've got to record.
Oh, I'm not forgetting about you, mate.
I might have to do a zoom in.
Imagine being here trying to figure that out.
How do we get Jaden on the screen?
I don't know how to get Jaden on the screen.
Just answer the call.
Oh, yeah, nice.
This is good.
It'll be good.
I'll be going away next week.
So we actually do have to figure out how we're going to record that.
I haven't thought about it.
I'll probably take that off here.
I'll probably take it off here.
Anyway, on the radar.
Yep.
I saw this article out of S.E.N.
S.E.N.
S.E.N.
S.E.N.
Of all places, mate.
Covering.
Yeah, it's an interesting one.
DIY trend, putting Australians at risk was the headline of the article.
And it goes on to say apparently one in 10 Australians are using AI to assist with car repairs and maintenance.
One in 10.
One in 10.
And I think it's a bit higher than that.
And I don't know how they've got that statistic.
So we'll take it with a grain of salt.
But anyway, that's what they're reporting.
One mechanic stated that you shouldn't be able to do your own brake pads.
Right.
I just wanted to get your thoughts on that.
Would you do them yourself?
I've done them.
You've done them all?
Yeah, I've done brake pads.
Perfect, mate.
I've had to test them a bit in this wet weather as well.
No, they're fine.
They're great.
I think there's inherent risks with anything that you do to your car yourself, servicing, maintenance, replacing brake pads, whatever it is.
The best way to learn about your vehicle is to do things on your vehicle.
You know, replace the brake pad.
Exactly what Corey was saying a few weeks ago.
It's like looking at the service manual, looking at the instructions, like going through the tutorials.
I would say, though, I agree with that.
I haven't agreed.
Definitely agree with that.
You agree.
I agree with that, what you're saying there holistically.
I wouldn't say that the brake pads, if you've never ever touched a car before, I wouldn't jump into brake pads.
No, I agree.
Like, if your brake pads indicator comes up on the dash that, you know, Lauren's come up recently, please check brake pads.
I wouldn't change the brake pads on Lauren's car.
I'd probably send them away.
But I wouldn't be, yeah, if you've never done any maintenance on your own vehicle, I wouldn't be jumping into brake pads straight away.
I think if you're not a handy person.
There's also the fact that you've got to learn.
Yeah, exactly.
You've got to learn.
Maybe don't, maybe brake pads, maybe not solo.
Like if it's something like changing oil.
Changing oil.
Maybe.
Fine.
That's fine.
Like make sure you're all set up, got the right stuff.
You don't want oil going everywhere.
That one is probably okay because I don't think there's a catastrophic end to, you know, stuffing that up.
Well, yeah, I don't know, mate.
You're not going to drive off knowing that there's no wheel in the car.
Like if it doesn't work out, you're going to be able to...
I think if you do your brakes, you test to make sure that they work.
And if they don't work, you don't drive on the roads.
Yeah.
Like you can test if your brake works without going 100 km an hour on the freeway.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
I definitely agree with doing like you've got to learn you need to try.
Like it's, but I just, I wouldn't be doing that as a first off.
No.
I've got my car.
I've never, don't know much about it.
You know, unless you've got someone there who has done it before and then they can show you through, then absolutely.
That's a good one.
You also got to, like, yeah, the inherent risk of brakes failing is huge.
I agree.
So, you know what I'm saying?
I do agree with that.
I know what you mean.
I know what you mean.
Like your brake pads are kind of very...
Brakes obviously are a very important part of the car.
You don't want to fuck that up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting article for SCN to put in.
Yeah, it was an interesting one, yeah.
Because they're normally, they would normally just be sport based, wouldn't they?
Yeah, well, I think they're...
Because it's like a more of a print, like digital print.
It's just kind of a general one.
Yeah.
They talked about it on radio, so it's a bit of a...
Oh, okay.
Right, right.
It's just like an article based off of their radio segment.
But anyway, I was just kind of thought, like, should you be able to do your own vehicle servicing and repairs?
Like, is that...
I think you should...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think you're fine to do all that kind of stuff.
I think brake pads is kind of a limit where it's like...
Well, it's not a limit.
Like, if you know how to do them, you know how to do them.
No, but I think...
When you do a general service in your car, you're changing oils, you're changing filters,
like you're rotating tyres, cool...
Like, that kind of stuff, like, which is pretty straightforward, I'd say.
And if you don't know how to do that, you can find guides to do that.
Yeah.
And you're not risking, you know, another person's car or life or anything if you mess up on your
oils or anything.
But yeah, brake pads is kind of that one where it's like, you can do them yourself and they're
fine to do yourself if you know what you're doing and you understand how they work.
But to do them, you first go without anyone's help, without anything and you're just using
AI, you might run into a fuse.
I think you just got to be careful.
That's probably the part.
The AI part is...
Yeah.
But brake pads, I don't know.
I did mine and they're fine.
They work great.
Like, they're not...
And you'd be confident to do them again.
100%.
Yeah, because it's worked.
I know how to put brake pads on.
Obviously, my old man, Heavy D, is a mechanic.
Like, we did it together.
He ran me through how to do it all and stuff and it was...
Well, I think that's the answer there.
I reckon that's if you don't have someone there that's done it before to run you through what
it looks like, don't just go ripping off wheels and adjust and brake pads.
Yeah.
Well, it's just like doing your own vehicle servicing.
I think it's such a big part of being a four-wheel drive and owning a four-wheel drive.
It's like learning your car, learning your maintenance on your car and how to do your
own repairs.
So if you're ever out in a situation where you need to fix something...
It comes extremely costly when you don't do any of it yourself.
100%.
It's very expensive out there.
So like, if you're saving a bit of money and you can do your own servicing, then by all
means do it.
Yeah.
But I don't think that...
Yeah.
I reckon that's a great...
It'd be great.
I feel like I'm just going in circles in my brain.
No, it's fine.
Well, your letters.
You don't have to have an answer.
No.
But I'm just...
I'm curious to see what other people think about it as well.
I think people will fall in the same boat.
If you've done it before and you've been shown how to do it correctly and you're confident
that you can do them, then it's probably fine.
If it's your first time, probably don't pull the car apart and do brake pads.
Not the important car apart, but you know what I mean?
You don't dive into the brake pads first.
You've got to have some sort of understanding of what's going on.
But I think a basic service would be...
I'd love to be able to confidently do the basic service, which I've kind of probably...
You'd be able to do it fine.
You have no problem.
But it'd be something you'd be cool to master.
You know, every 5,000K is just bang, you do it on the clock and I'm not there.
No, I'm sure there'd be some out there.
My dad's a little bit of that.
So good.
So good.
And he loves doing it as well.
I'll take the car around here and I'll just be like, oh yeah, this is a little bit...
It's been a little bit weird here.
Like, oh, this isn't working.
And then I'll come back out and he's just got the car on the Hoy store.
Like he's under it or just like fixing...
Just playing around with them.
Thanks, mate.
Yeah.
Appreciate that.
It's a good man.
He's a great man.
Look, so anyway, I just saw that was an interesting conversation there.
Just surround it.
Because I know a lot of four-wheel drivers do that.
Do their own maintenance.
Do their own service.
Do their own kind of stuff.
And I think it's really important as well to do that stuff to your four-wheel driver.
You know how to do it.
And I think you need to do your own servicing, mate.
I will.
Moving on.
Another one on the Radar Tank 700.
Have you heard about this?
It's getting a V8 engine.
So they're bringing out the Tank 700 SUV.
Yeah.
With a V8 engine.
Right.
Which is interesting because we'll get to this eventually.
But the Nissan have called time on the V8 Patrol.
Which was a planned pull-out.
It was a planned thing.
Yeah.
It's just ending kind of this month.
Tell you what.
You've got another month to kind of get into it.
I love the sound of my car.
I love the sound of...
I reckon the Nissan, the V8.
The Y62.
Two.
And the Y63 has got a minimum as well.
No, the Y63's will be V6.
Oh, so there's no Y63's on the road yet.
No, I don't think so.
Oh, I thought maybe there was some early Y63's with V8.
They have the nicest note to them.
Yeah.
I've got to admit the V8 Nissan Patrols.
They do.
Have the nicest note to them.
Especially when they've got a little bit of a tune.
When they've got a little bit of a tune and maybe a bigger dump.
Oh, yeah.
They are hard to beat.
They do sound really good.
You can tell.
You can tell.
You don't have to see it to know that sound.
It's nice.
It's iconic.
It's nice.
Mate, they've been going since, what?
2012.
The Y62's with the V8.
Yeah.
They are iconic.
And then you go back generations before that as well.
With the Patrol.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Interesting that the tank are jumping into V8 when everyone seems to be going the other
Everyone is getting out of V8.
And they, so GDOM, the chairman, Jack Wei said this is completely the opposite to the
current environmental trend or the, to the current environment and the trend in China,
which is obviously where GDOM are made.
We developed this V8 to meet the needs of global users in markets such as Australia and New
Zealand.
So it's targeted specifically to us, pretty much Australia and New Zealand.
Yeah.
Which is interesting because of the, obviously the new vehicle emission standard, which is
taking everything the opposite direction.
Well, maybe they've come out with a V8.
Maybe they've, maybe they are predicting that there'll be a gap in, like, maybe they,
they just think that there's enough people down here still in New Zealand and Australia
that are keen on a V8 while everyone's going away from them.
Maybe they, does that bring the tank, does that increase, you know, the purposes of the
tank?
Well, I mean, what's the,
There's a few out there.
Don't worry about that.
No, there's a lot of tanks out there.
A lot of GDOMs out there.
What's, Land Cruisers don't have them anymore.
Patrols won't have them anymore.
G-Wagon.
Range Rovers have got them.
G-Wagon.
G-Wagon's a V8.
Yeah.
I'm assuming.
The high-end Range Rovers have got a V8, I think.
I don't think there's like that.
Not much about Range Rovers to be fair.
Yeah.
I don't either, but I think they've got a V8.
Anyway, Range Rovers Sport maybe.
Yeah.
It's just interesting.
It's interesting that the V8.
Is coming back with a Chinese vehicle.
It's the reliability of the V8s in the Nissans and the
Toyotas that have made them so popular.
Obviously the sound is great.
But yeah.
It's interesting.
Entice you into it like, say in five years time.
Fuck no.
No?
No, no, no.
Fuck chance.
I still don't really trust the GWMs.
Not that I don't trust them.
I don't really trust the Chinese full drives.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because I haven't tested it.
Yeah.
I haven't driven one around.
I don't know the capabilities for myself.
Like obviously for other people.
Johnny, should you have modified on the tanks?
100% should be.
Should do.
That'd be cool.
But I just don't.
To understand.
Because I just, I don't do through ignorance.
I don't know.
Many of them are wicked.
No, look, a lot of people say that they're great cars.
Yeah.
And they love them and they get around in them.
But are they going to be as reliable as what we've known
from the Land Cruisers?
Yeah.
What we've known from like patrols,
even some of the older patrols.
Oh, they're, like I say, they are iconic.
I think with the tank coming in,
like I don't know how readily available parts are
and stuff like that for like your stock,
like GWM parts.
I'm assuming now that they are quite popular.
Like GWM has been popular for a while.
Yeah, no.
The tank versions of their cars,
how readily available are their stock parts
and then how many aftermarket options are there
for your tanks now too.
Yeah.
So I think it looks,
there's a few, I've seen a few drive parts
and I'm like, that's a,
it's a nice looking, like done up.
Oh yeah.
Done up.
Done up.
Like full drive.
And I'm like, cool.
And it sort of catches the eye a little bit.
Because they look a little bit unique.
Like, you know, they're not exactly a Prado.
They're not exactly like.
They're very similar to a Prado though.
They're probably more on your Prado look.
But like they help,
they've almost got like a bit of old school hammer to them
in a way.
Yeah, a bit of that.
Which I don't, I'm not a fan of.
I'm not a fan of either.
Not a fan of.
I don't, but they do have a bit of that.
They just like the look of the tanks.
I'm interested to see if this V8,
is it going ahead?
Like confirmed going ahead.
Yeah, confirmed going ahead.
So that, yeah, I'll be interested to see.
Turn your airdrop on.
I'll send you a couple of photos
because they, I don't think they,
I don't think they look good.
What is what?
The 700.
Oh yeah.
Come on mate.
Cool mate.
I'll, I'll add a sneaky one in there for you as well mate.
Yeah.
It's just a picture of a hundred.
700 mil.
Fuck, that's a big, that's a good tip.
That's a good tip.
I think there's a place for them.
Go.
Obviously there's a place for them.
As an affordable four wheel drive that gets people
into four wheel driving.
I think it's great.
And if they only last a decade.
Yeah.
Still, I think is, I still think that's,
that's worth it.
Like you get, you get your fun out of it.
The Land Cruiser shits itself, yours.
Yeah.
What's your next V8?
Maybe I don't get a V8.
Yeah.
See.
Or maybe you do now.
Maybe I do.
Maybe I do.
Interesting.
Very AI or not AI.
I'm not sure.
Not AI.
This is just the photos
that have been released with it.
I think so.
That is more your,
I'm getting G-Wagon vibes from that.
Yeah.
Have you, the, the back,
and we'll put the images on the screen now,
but like the spoiler on top.
Yeah.
It's very like, it's very,
it's not so much I'm going touring.
It's not at all.
It's very the opposite of that.
It's a sports car.
It's like a sports car.
Yeah.
Which is an SUV.
Okay.
It probably changes everything I just said
if I had seen those photos earlier.
Not blaming you there.
I'm just saying,
I probably don't see that as a,
as a competitor.
It's not a competitor.
No.
Sorry.
But I mean, could it be?
Could you do it up to be?
Why not?
Oh, I don't know.
That might be.
It does.
It does.
Don't know anything about the running gear
and all that.
It's, it's an SUV,
not a four wheel drive.
Like that's, that's what it is.
It looks like it's your competitor
for a Range Rover or a G-Wagon,
or how many G-Waggs are done
up to go four wheel drive.
Yeah.
There's not many around.
Yeah.
So I just thought that was
an interesting one there.
It's cool though.
I like that they're bringing a V8 back in.
Oh, I'm kind of saying,
let us know what you think below in the comments of,
whether you think the GOM,
the 700 is going to be
and something that you'll look at.
I don't know what the price point is on it
and there's not really been a release date for it.
The V8 comes in at like a 60 grand.
Well, jeez.
I don't know what a tank,
a 700 tank's worth at the moment.
Yeah.
Like if you,
I'm assuming they're affordable.
So they are.
You bring a V8 into the market that's affordable.
Yeah.
Got to go and pay.
Well, there's always a place for cars like this.
There's always a place.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
If it gets people into four wheel driving,
I think it's a great thing.
I don't think that car will get people into four wheel driving.
I don't think that car will know.
After looking at the engine,
I think you're right.
In a Forester, something like that.
Oh, 100%.
You know?
Forester would go hard.
This...
We'll see.
Yeah.
Anyway,
Nissan Patrol.
Yeah.
Coming to an end.
They've confirmed that the
V8 finished production in August.
So you've basically got one month left.
It's a pre-order.
If you want to buy a Y62,
and then those shipments will be coming to
Australia in the showrooms around September,
early October.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you've literally got a month,
a month left to get the Y62 Patrol V8
before it goes.
And it's not coming back.
There's no special edition either.
Which I think is an interesting...
No special edition.
No special edition.
No, like,
signature last edition.
There's just many people looking for it.
Just a fleet getting on the ship,
and that's it.
It's literally just a fleet getting on the ship,
and that's it.
And now we're done.
So they're coming back in...
I mean,
they're coming back in with the twin-turbo V6.
Which...
Same as Toyota.
That's right.
And they're producing more power,
more torque than the V8 engines are.
Yeah.
But do they have the same appeal?
No.
There are definitely a lot of V8 lovers in Australia.
I think...
But it's...
If it's got more power,
more go,
it makes more sense.
Yeah.
Doesn't it?
Yeah.
It does.
I think, like,
I don't know,
I feel like the question always comes back to reliability.
Is the V6 as reliable as those V8s
have proven themselves to be?
Like...
The 300 is proving itself.
I don't know why they wouldn't be.
How long has the 300 been around?
Must be five years now.
Mid-2021.
Yeah, so I thought that would have been
about five years or four years.
Yeah.
Okay.
Far out.
It feels like longer.
Is that enough time to be like,
that is a reliable V...
Hard with the Toyota though,
they're just not reliable.
I don't think so.
Five years isn't enough time to go...
You want to see a 15-year-old 300 series
and being like,
that's...
You know what I mean?
Time will tell.
Okay.
Time will tell.
But, like,
V6s have been around for a long time.
They're not new.
Yeah, no, they're not.
You know?
But I think the twin-turbo stuff
in those big cars is the new thing.
But everyone's got to go there now
because there's no V8s.
Yeah, you kind of have to...
Suck it up.
It's what we do now.
Suck it up.
Demand for the outgoing V8
is Skyrocketed though.
Yeah.
So since the announcement,
there are a lot more sales of the V8.
Like, those prices are going to go up
to the 76 series.
Oh, sorry.
The 70 series.
Do you know what's interesting
with the Nissan now?
So it's just similar to mine
when I bought mine
as the last of the V8s to a degree.
Yeah.
Like...
You can get a badge on yours.
It says last of the V8s.
No, that won't.
Last of the Mohicans.
I...
I kind of bought that in...
with that as a part of the reason why.
Like, this is the last of the V8
for resale value and
for it to hold its value.
Yeah.
Can this play a part in that?
Yeah.
There was a lot of talk around
when the Toyota 70 series V8s
were going out of, like, off the line.
So that...
it's been ramped up more than the patrol.
I haven't heard that much about the patrol.
Yeah, so that's where I'm like,
does that...
But does...
Will the market say that
about the patrols too
in three years' time?
Will a secondhand V8 patrol
manufactured in 2026
be that, you know,
that's sailed its value
almost...
almost cost him more than what
you bought it for, brand new,
kind of thing?
You know what I mean?
I wonder if the market will do that.
It's not a question to answer now.
I'm just like, I wonder
will the market tell us that?
It's a good hypothetical kind of thing.
Yeah.
Will kind of give us that.
Who knows?
Again, time will tell
that people will love that.
We're just saying that.
But I...
What's your gut say?
What's your gut feel on it?
I think it will.
I think so too.
I think even from 20...
you know,
whether it...
within
that sort of
ten-year,
five-year radius, you know...
No, it's the last of the V8.
And obviously,
there's Toyota fans out there
who love a Toyota
and will absolutely
just hate Nissan
and will be like,
nah, it's garbage.
Why would you ever buy a patrol?
But now you can't be as picky.
But...
like,
the patrols have been good vehicles
for a long, long time.
Yeah.
Like, obviously,
there's issues with...
with a lot of cars.
Yeah.
Well, petrol, yeah.
So there's diesel-petrol lovers.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of Nissan lovers.
V8 will hold and sell you.
It's like the 200 has.
Still hard to buy a 200.
Yeah.
Look at the old GQs.
Yeah.
Still rare in a go.
Yeah, still rare in a go.
80 series still going.
60s are still popular.
No, I think
the last of the patrols
will go well.
I think so too.
Like, in ten years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You still see a lot of them
driving around the streets of Perth
here now and like,
they're popular cars
for a reason.
Yeah.
Like, people still buy them
for a reason.
Will they come and sit in one of them?
Is that comfortable?
They're comfortable.
Yeah.
They're comfortable.
I think the Y62
hasn't been my favourite patrol,
though.
Are you going old school?
Old school, for sure.
Yeah.
I think the shape of the body
on those old school,
like GQs.
Real square.
Yeah, real square.
Really like that.
I think that's just the
biggest thing for the patrol.
They look light.
The Y62s look heavy.
Plus, like, mate,
the flex on the most.
Driving home from footy training
on Thursday night.
And when I drive back
from Kingsley to Ellenbrook,
like, you go past
all the pines.
Yeah.
And you see all the four-wheel
drive and stuff out there
and guys on motorbikes and stuff,
which, by the way,
we need to get a motorbike.
Fire out.
I'm itching.
I'm itching, mate.
But I saw an old school GQ patrol
just, like, flexing hard off.
Yeah, just parked.
And I was like,
oh, God, that's mean.
It's a part of the pun.
It's a flex.
It's a flex.
It's a massive flex.
I was thinking, mate,
if I did that with my 76,
I might tip over.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
But the bloody patrol,
just flexing hard,
loving life.
And it's like an old school,
like, the red maroon patrol.
I feel like that's
the marquee colour.
It is, mate.
That's their flagship.
It's probably not,
but I feel like
they're the ones
that you can still get online.
People still got them.
The white ones are probably
the classic GQ patrol.
White, like, a lot.
White big black flares
and big black tires.
Yeah, literally.
With a roof rack on it.
And it's just, like,
absolutely beaten the hell out of it.
Yeah, I know.
So it looks like a paint job
from a father.
It's just a bit of rust.
Yeah, it's just a bit of rust.
Just a bit of rust
and a bit of dense.
Oh, that's reflective.
No, it's just a massive dent
coming out of your door.
We need a bit more patrol love, probably.
I'm glad that we spoke about them today.
Yeah, I'm glad we talked about them.
Let's not talk about them
for a while now.
Let's go back to talking about them.
Yeah, we're the yearly quota
of nissans talked about.
Goodbye to the Y62.
Goodbye to the Y62.
Goodbye.
Farewell.
Yeah.
Farewell.
I won't miss it.
But it's just good to say goodbye.
Ah, you did need it for that in there.
End of an era.
Yeah, well, you just
ragged it on the way out, though.
Well, it's always good
to give a patrol a clip, I think,
on the way out.
On the way out, yeah.
It's a bit of a stir-up.
Yeah.
Also, you're on our pedestals
and the toy artists.
Nah.
It just made me think
when we were talking about GQ's,
my mate's got an old,
shorty GQ patrol.
Might be selling it.
It's very nice.
Are you looking at it?
I am actually looking at it.
And a potty patrol?
Just a little bit.
Good price?
Just a little bit.
Some rules?
Oh, it will be a good price.
Fucking will be a good price.
Tell you that much.
Excuse the language, Mum.
You swore on it.
Today, if I'm honest.
I haven't.
You have.
I have a bit.
Yeah.
I haven't done that much.
I was literally about to say
I've actually done quite well,
but apparently I haven't.
I think you might have said
five F words.
Which is actually pretty good.
How long have we been going?
30 minutes?
I feel like that's pretty good.
Nah, you've been good lately.
Yeah, it's not bad for me.
You've been playing up a bit
lately.
Misbehaving.
Yeah, I've been, mate.
You've been misbehaving.
What have we got?
We've got around the fire pit.
Yeah, we've got around the fire pit.
As I have a hunting brew.
Yeah, get that on your lips.
Down the gullet.
Down the gullet.
We'll move on to around the fire pit.
You know what?
Brought to you by hunting brew.
Around the fire pit.
Why not?
Let's just do it.
First one from Matt Borg.
Borgie?
Yeah.
We've always called him Borgie.
Hey, boys.
Love the chat.
Even when it's not always on topic,
I'd love to see Dago do his car sale
search again.
Oh.
And not only that,
he's provided us with a car sales.
OK.
So I reckon you go away this week.
Yep.
Come back next week.
Yep.
With a car sales.
Let me, um, let me drop this down.
For Borgie.
He reckons it's a hard one.
I'll get these after the show.
I'll send it through.
Yeah, we might as well not have.
Here's a hard one for him.
All right.
Family of seven.
Borgie.
My wife.
Yeah.
We knew this about Borgie,
obviously.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
My wife and I,
and our five kids.
Five kids, yeah.
9753 and one.
97531
Great split.
Bloke hasn't stopped.
Um, we camp with the caravan that I built
as you can't buy a caravan for our family
and our size.
They built the caravan.
Yeah.
Like that.
For the past two years,
we've been towing with a Kia Carnival.
The caravan is one ton.
Wow.
Right.
So big ups to Kia.
Well done.
That is cool.
The old Carnival.
Um, we're looking for a bigger.
One more for the Carnival, by the way.
They are good cars.
OK.
Look, quickly.
I haven't seen many Tasman's on the road.
I reckon I've seen under five Tasman's on the road.
Not many around.
Not many at all.
Yeah.
Are they, are they selling?
Yeah.
Oh, sorry.
I don't know.
I don't have to do a bit of research with that.
They are selling.
You can buy them.
Yeah.
I know they're, they're available for purchase,
but are people buying them?
No, it's not a Hebrew.
All the marketing.
I wonder if that's just bombed.
I wonder if that has just bombed hard.
Maybe too early to tell.
I don't think so.
OK.
Usually with those cars,
there's like a massive pre-order, right?
Like coming through.
And you see a lot more.
We'll get on the positive about the carnival.
B-Y-D.
The sharks.
I see a lot of them.
Sharks popular.
Don't see a lot of Kia Tasman's.
No.
Mmm.
I don't even think Volks driving one,
and he was in the bloody ad.
Borgie back on the topic.
Back to Borgie.
Shout out the Kia carnival.
One of the all time cars.
What is funny about that?
I think it might.
Anyway.
They are.
We're looking for a bigger,
dedicated tow rig that we can pull the van around with,
but then go off-road on day trips.
The budget is 50 grand.
Our first thought is a Y-62,
but what do you have for us?
I mean.
It's where I was going.
Last of the V8s.
I thought the Y-62 as well.
Pretty spacious.
Wait.
How many?
Five kids.
Seven people.
Yeah.
Seven people.
The seven-seater that popped up straight away.
I think it would be a few earlier ones.
Potentially.
As long as you can put,
and I'm assuming all the stuff is in the van anyway.
So.
When you travel in a caravan,
that's the benefit of.
Yeah.
You know.
We do want a bit of space.
Have the car four seats.
The thing about off the top of my head,
I'll go away and have a look,
but there are definitely some Y-62.
The Y-62 is more affordable,
especially if you go back a few years,
than say a 200 of the similar.
Of a similar time.
And I don't even know.
Maybe not a whole lot of seven-seater,
two hundreds around.
Definitely like more.
You see more patrols in the seven seats.
I'm assuming it was one and a three-year-old as well.
I don't know how that works.
That would be.
The one and three-year-old would be in sort of some form of.
Car seat.
Baby seat slash car seat, booster seat.
Wouldn't they all be?
Like, except for the nine-year-old?
Five and seven.
I'm not sure about five and seven.
I think it stops at seven.
The car seat.
I think you can only take them out after seven.
Really?
Yep.
Damn, I thought I was sitting in the front seat,
but I was.
Oh yeah, we probably were.
I definitely was.
Shout out to the parents.
No, I can't remember back then.
I think it's seven.
I heard recently that it's seven from someone,
but it's got a six-year-old turning seven.
So what you're saying might be four seats in the car.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
So you're far out.
That's a lot of seats.
But, no, you can fit in though.
There's that four.
Four seats.
I'll go away.
I'll go away and have a look.
The 50 grand budget will be...
I wonder if they're open to a truck.
But you're not going to get one for 50 grand, actually.
Like an American truck?
Like a ram or something?
No.
Like an IZuzu, MPS or something like that.
Oh, okay.
Big enough?
Like enough space?
Well, the cart rides are one family that do it with...
with that as many kids, I think.
Yeah, okay.
I'll just...
There's something in there set up.
It's not 50 grand.
Something for you, mate.
Something for you.
Go away and have a look at it.
Because, I mean, they're towing,
so a truck probably isn't what...
I mean, they probably just want a vehicle
that they can unhook the caravan from and go.
Drive around in, yeah.
Yeah, there's not...
It's a big family, so...
My 62 feels the best,
but have a look off the top of the dome.
50 grand.
All right.
Have a look, mate.
Car sales back in action.
I love the car.
The next one from Tony King.
Love the show.
Yeah, Kinga.
Love the show, lads.
Can't see what I'm writing in the message box.
Is the font colour white?
Not sure.
Sorry, Kinga.
Anyway, I just bought my first four-wheel drive,
a 2016 MQ Triton GLX Good Old 4N15 Block.
Good engine.
Stock at the moment, other than a factory bull bar.
Aeroclass canopy,
and came with 18-inch rims and 26560R18s.
I'm keen to get out and get into the beach in June,
but after listening to you fellas,
I've gone out and got myself recovery tracks,
recovery hitch,
no recovery points on the car yet,
tyre gauge, air compressor,
soft shackles and a kinetic rope.
With this gear,
do you reckon I'm good to get out there?
I'm also going to look at doing a four-wheel drive course
to make sure I'm as prepared as I can be.
She's my daily,
so I don't want to be beating her up too much.
Good on you fellas.
So he's got 18-inch rims,
which you could probably go lower on,
but as long as they're all terrains,
you'd be fine.
Canopy bull bar,
don't really stress too much on that,
and stock everything else.
So no lift.
That's fine.
You can still get out and do as much as you can.
I'd look at getting a lift,
maybe a two-inch.
Recovery stuff, really good.
You've got your tracks,
hopefully max tracks,
recovery hitch,
for no recovery points.
You definitely need that.
A tyre gauge, air compressor,
and soft shackles and a kinetic rope.
Good.
Shovel.
Definitely get a shovel.
You can use your max tracks to dig out,
but it's not as easy.
Get a shovel,
especially if you're headed towards the beach.
Anything else off the top of the head?
Well...
Compressor, tyres,
inflator, deflator.
What would you say the risks are
with what Tony's got?
Or with not having a lift,
you might just have some clearance issues.
Yeah.
Obviously,
I don't think you have that much weight on it.
The 18-inch rims with a two-six-five tyre,
you're not going to be bagging out quite.
You're not going to be bagging out much.
You're not getting as much surface area.
But...
But you'll still be fine.
You'll be a light, so it's probably okay.
Triton's a pretty light car.
Yeah.
I think you're good.
I think you just get out there.
At least you just get it out there and go.
Toe hitch for recovery.
He'll be able to cover it backwards.
You just be a bit careful there
where you're facing the car
when you're going in.
Yeah.
No, you've got all the right gear.
Definitely get out there.
Yeah.
Lower your tyres
to where you feel like you're comfortable
if you're going on sand.
The whole heap of rubber to deal with.
So you don't want to go too low,
probably like...
I think the best part about it
is he's going to go and put himself in a course.
Yeah, definitely.
But you will...
There will be some invaluable lessons in that.
You'll learn the most about your car
and forward driving
just by doing it yourself.
Whether you're on a course or not,
you're going to learn more about your car
than you ever will through a course
just by going out there and testing it
and getting stuck.
Hit the tracks.
Go have a bit of fun, mate.
Obviously it's your daily,
so don't beat her up too much.
Yeah, he won't in the sand though.
No, in the sand you won't.
Yeah.
And he says he's going into the beach in June,
so I would...
Yeah, genuinely just go hit up a beach,
air down, be safe.
Mate, get out there and have fun.
Absolutely.
Just get out there and do it.
You've got everything you need.
Go and have fun.
Couldn't agree.
Couldn't agree.
All right.
Well, that's it, mate.
That's around the fire pit.
I'll move on more.
No.
Before we finish,
we should have touched at the start
because I forgot.
Hega was Pete last week.
Yeah, he's a great man.
I feel like this should have been at the start
because I just...
Just in case.
I just loved that chat.
I don't know what other people,
whether you liked it or you didn't,
that's fine, but I had a ball-shot in him.
He's just...
He's one bloke that can just sit in a room
and talk and just...
You just feel happy around him, don't you?
Yeah, you do.
The moment I shook his hand when I met him,
I was like, this guy's just got great energy.
He's got great energy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is just great.
That's why...
He's exactly what you see in the videos.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, there's not...
He's not putting it on.
It's not anything.
It's just a genuine bloke having a chat
and who's just excited about life
and talking before driving.
He just loves it.
Yeah, he just loves it.
Mate, I was so impressed
with the way he was talking about his wife and family.
Oh, how good was that?
You never hear that.
How good was that?
You never hear that.
But that's just the type of, like...
It's the type of person he is at.
That is how he makes you feel at the time.
Like, obviously, not to the degree of...
Oh, you feel like his wife too, yeah?
No, no.
But, like, you know what I mean?
Like, I'm just like,
Mate, I feel like a good person around you.
Like, you bring that...
I reckon he brings it out of you.
Oh, you are a good person, though.
I wonder what a shit person feel like.
Oh.
I was like, hang on.
Question?
Is that a question?
No.
But, no, he...
Like, I don't know.
He's just someone that I love being around.
And I haven't had the opportunity
to be around him a whole lot.
But...
Yeah.
When I have.
And that's the feeling that
I've probably got across a little bit too much
was how his videos make you feel.
Yeah.
Like, you just can feel like
you're sort of sitting around with him.
Yeah.
That's why they're so...
For me, they're so easy to watch.
Yeah, I think that's what it brings.
I reckon he's just an absolute class operator.
We haven't...
We haven't interviewed anyone yet
that I can think of that's on my head
who hasn't just been classed.
Yeah, we've had some good guests now, for sure.
Like, everyone we've had on so far
has just been genuinely good people.
Yeah.
Like, someone you'd go to the pub
and have a beer with and just sit down
and just go,
Mate, this is great.
And there's no fakeness about anything.
Like, there's no personality switching or anything.
No.
We haven't turned on the...
We haven't started the podcast and gone,
Oh, fuck.
Hang on.
This is a different person who I was just talking to.
Yeah.
I love that chat last week.
So hopefully you guys enjoyed listening.
And it sounds like Pete's going to grab us
at some stage and get on every man's chats
on his one.
Yeah.
That would be interesting.
That would be cool.
I shouldn't be going on that.
No, no, you shouldn't.
I actually think...
Like, I'd rather just...
I want to see you on there.
Like, I'm actually...
I could sit that one out.
You...
I definitely don't need to...
No, I'm not.
I don't need to be on a podcast.
You know, it would be cool though.
Someone asking us about all of this.
All of our stuff.
Because, like, we just get on here
and talk a bit of smack
and have a bit of fun and all that sort of thing.
But, like...
There's a lot of stuff fun to do.
You generally think about where...
Where it comes from.
...when we started.
Like, we had not met each other.
Nah.
And all of a sudden...
And we were literally in Scow's garage.
Yeah.
And now I see you once a week.
I'll...
If...
Like, we would see each other now,
not for the podcast.
Yeah.
Like, you know,
I'd go and catch up at the pub.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, definitely.
It's weird that that's all kind of out now too.
Yeah.
Like, it's a great thing.
But, um...
Yeah, it would be...
I'd love to hear your side of things too.
Because, like, Pete says when he gets on here,
he thinks he doesn't have a great story to tell.
He's got an absolutely amazing story to tell.
Yeah, I know.
I felt the same when I went on Pete's.
Yeah.
And then, Pete reassures me
that I've got a great story to tell.
But you do have a great story to tell.
I don't have a great story to tell.
No, that's...
I don't have a story.
See, don't say it.
I've got no story.
No, no, from my experience,
that you do have a great story to tell.
Like, everyone does.
Everyone's got their own story.
That's what makes it great.
Without getting too deep,
because that's, like...
But it's cool.
I'm going to be cool to see you on Pete's chat.
And the way, mate,
imagine Pete interviewing you.
Yeah.
I can explain from experience
that you feel comfortable.
Yeah, you probably...
It's not that I would feel uncomfortable.
Yeah, no, you're right.
Yeah.
Right, we'll do it.
We'll do it.
Oh, mate, yeah, you'll do it.
We'll definitely do it,
because, yeah, I'd love to have another yarn with Pete.
You fucking do it.
I'll just go and hang out with Pete.
Yeah, I just want to go hang out with Pete again
in his bedroom with the microphones there.
Yeah, great bedroom.
Look, anyway,
that's all I've got for around the fire pit.
Keep sending your questions in.
There's a few more that I haven't put in this episode
that we'll put in the next one.
I can't.
Patches are coming soon.
Merch is online.
Patreon, stick around.
We'll have a quick yarn with you
about some things.
And, yeah, four-drive podcast.
Enter.
Yeah, enter whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, see you on the next one.
See you on the next one.
Shout out to Ray Tabor and Hunt and Brew.
About this episode
Dive into the massive news surrounding the end of the Nissan Patrol V8 era and what this transition means for the four-wheel-drive community. The hosts debate a controversial new trend of using AI for DIY car repairs, questioning whether novice mechanics should tackle critical tasks like replacing brake pads. Plus, hear a crucial Terrain Tamer tip on keeping campsites clean, and get the latest updates on the show's upcoming camping trips and community giveaways.
Original notes
Nissan announce they will no longer be using a V8 engine in their Nissan Patrols as the last shipments of V8 Y62 Patrols are released and they will instead be moving to the same engine as the Toyota 300 Series LandCruisers; a twin-turbo V6 engine.
In the wake of this GWM announce they are adding a V8 engine to their Tank 700's with more information dropping later in the year.
Music by The Southern River Band. Produced by BackChat. Tyrepower powering the podcast!
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