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Yo, everybody, what is up?
Welcome to the People's Car Podcast.
My name is Ryan Bielman, and sitting right next to me is Danny Mercado.
And we have a couple friends, couple times they've been on the podcast.
Who do we have here?
My name is Heather.
Heather.
And Aro.
And Aro.
What's up, guys?
What's up?
So we were talking, we're all hanging out, we're at the beach, right, and we were saying
that we might not necessarily want to talk about cars right now.
Maybe we'll talk a little bit about cars, but we could talk about anything.
There's a car podcast, it would be a little weird.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, if we start talking about, like, she's like earth.
Yeah, the holographic moons.
Yes.
So, cheese is cool.
We're going to have a cheese night.
Nice being cheesy.
I think what is this?
Our third cheese night together?
Fourth?
This is, yeah, third or fourth?
Yeah.
Every time we get together.
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's fourth.
Yeah, it is fourth.
And I feel like it's getting better and better every year.
We're, like, up in the cheese game.
Yeah, we are.
What's funny is I thought we were weird about it, but those people at the cheese
store were weird about cheese.
Those other people?
They were like psyched to, like, introduce you guys to cheese and crackers.
Like, their enthusiasm with crackers was on another level.
Do you mean the people that were working there or the people that were there buying the stuff?
The people that were there buying the stuff.
Is it rosemary and crackers that you're trying to get?
That got me hyped up for more cheese.
I mean, they are intense.
That dude was like, you're doing cheese too?
And I'm like, yeah, man, we're having a cheese night with a bunch of friends.
He's like, that's why we're here.
That was intense.
That guy was all about it.
So we went to Kate May and we went to, what was that called?
I think it's the cheese shop.
The cheese shop in Kate May.
Yeah.
And they're cool.
If anyone's ever been to Kate May in New Jersey, they have, like, an outdoor mall.
It's, like, three blocks long.
And yeah, it was cool.
Anyway, these dudes were super into the cheese.
Yo, Heather got a chocolate cheese.
I had to.
Never saw that before.
That's a new one.
We have a...
I have no idea what it's going to taste like.
I like when you're like, hey, I'm kind of moving for chocolate right now.
I was like, can I start eating the chocolate cheese or just scrape the chocolate off and
start eating the chocolate off of it?
I don't think it's like that.
It's like intertwined with everything.
Yeah.
No, it's like cheddar with cocoa and sugar.
It's not like cheese, like, dipped in chocolate.
Right.
It's, like, all mixed up through it.
I'm sure it's going to taste like garbage.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We got a Gouda that is like a honey bee Gouda, they called it.
And we got a couple of the spicy kinds of cheeses.
Spicy cheeses where it's at.
Spicy cheese.
Purshudo.
Was it rattlesnake or something?
Yeah.
That was good.
It's like four pepper.
No, that had tequila in it, I think.
Did it?
I think so.
I don't know.
It was like tequila and it was a habanero.
I know Errol asked the lady that was working behind the cash register and he's like, this
one looks spicy and she's like, that one is spicy.
I will say they were all white though.
And I feel like you're level of spice.
Oh, like the people?
Yeah.
You think because they're white they can't handle spice?
Yeah.
Really?
What about your husband?
I'm pretty sure he can handle spice pretty good.
I taught him though.
Ah, I love spicy.
Do you guys consider yourself an interracial marriage?
I guess.
Have you ever talked about it?
No.
This is the first time we've ever broken that egg on the podcast.
I mean she's half Chinese.
Yeah.
Cool.
You guys are so eclectic.
That's great.
With the times, is that right I guess?
I just have a basic white wife.
She's a basic bitch.
She's going to love you.
Danny's all Greek and Puerto Rican.
Russian.
And your wife is...
Isn't she Mexican and like Native American?
She is Italian, Irish, Tejano which is like, how do I say this, the Texans that are so
her family.
Here we go.
The Native American.
And they moved down to like, where was Mexico to blend in with the Mexicans because they didn't
want to wrap up the reservation.
So they're actually like, not Mexican outside.
So why can't she handle spicy food?
She can.
I gave her a hot wing and she's about...
It all depends on the level of spice.
Again, she's not Mexican.
She's actually like Native American more than anything.
Do you guys want to talk about cars at all?
Sure.
Because we are way off on that one.
So you guys got a mountain green car.
Yeah.
What's that all about?
Were you looking for a car or did it just pop in your lap?
A friend sent it to me 10 minutes after it was posted at like 11 p.m. or 10 p.m.
Sent him a message.
It was 15 minutes down the street from my house.
Never seen this car before, ever.
Weird.
And so I had to go get it.
And unfortunately I have another car now.
That's a funny thing to say.
It's a great problem to have.
It's fantastic.
I got rid of the Mark II, so now I have another Mark I.
She all of a sudden has every car she owns is green.
No, the 964 is white.
Oh, yeah.
And purple.
And purple.
The best part of the Mark I's is like, oh, you're not going to have a Mark I anymore.
And now you have like three Mark I's.
So Heather's never owned a Mark I.
Never.
Yeah.
This is my first one.
That's impressive.
So I'm like having to learn all the things about it.
Like the deluxe grill.
I learned that.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
You didn't know?
I had no idea.
Really?
Yeah.
It's funny because, yeah, it's just so simple, right?
Like they're really cool little cars.
Mark II's have always been my thing.
I love Mark II's.
Yeah.
So the Mark I world is very different.
Yeah, definitely.
Like I have two different mirrors on my car.
Yeah, that's why.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was that like purposely dumb?
Yeah.
From what I found is they didn't come with a passenger mirror,
but they put deluxe mirrors on the driver's side with a passenger.
Sure.
But then no one would go through the work for a deluxe mirror
to drill a one inch hole in your door to match.
So they just put a flag mirror on the passenger side.
Interesting.
Which come to find out they make aftermarket imitation deluxe mirrors
that don't actually have an adjuster cable.
Oh, really?
I didn't know that.
Okay.
It's weird.
Yeah.
Do you guys want to get into that story?
Because I know it's kind of like a weird story a little bit.
Yeah, we can.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I was just going to say, got it.
Met the old man.
He was probably in the 70s.
Made up this crazy story about how he bought it off a woman who lived in
South Georgia, had a bus, this crazy long story.
Bought it, got really excited, posted it.
Ian, I think sent it to me was like, hey, I'm pretty sure that car was
on bring a trailer.
And I was like, no, no, it's from an old lady.
He sent me the link.
Ian from Florida?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He would know, right?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I don't think so.
And then he sent it to me.
I was like, oh, shit.
That's literally the car.
The guy bought it on bring a trailer, which was, he was
five minutes from the old guy.
This was 2021.
And let's say this, like this is also a really nice and clean.
Super.
Yeah.
The interiors because everyone knows what a mountain green looks
like.
Yeah.
Rust bucket.
Right.
Totally out.
Yeah.
Okay.
But go ahead.
And yeah.
So he bought it.
I think he put less than 100 miles on it.
72 miles.
No shit.
And it just sat for five years.
That's crazy.
I don't know why the old guy has it.
I found the younger guy when I Googled it.
I texted a number that Google said was his number.
Never heard a reply.
Tried reaching out to this guy has no social media.
Just curious about the story.
Why that old guy has it.
I don't know.
Did he explain to you why he did?
Oh, well, I guess arrow kind of did later on.
Like why he probably didn't run it for very long because it
had a couple of issues that you were.
Yes.
It's so weird.
I've never, I've never had a car like the, you would
drive it.
And when you're letting out the clutch, the car would
book really hard.
And I'm like clutch related.
Like this is, this is the strangest thing I've ever dealt
with.
So I cleared up all the crappy vacuum problems that
every Mark one has.
Right.
Just kind of went over the car in a day.
And the booking was still there.
I'm like, what?
What's going on here?
So I started, you know, messing around.
I went to work and literally came home to a pile of
wires on the driveway.
I mean, naturally, naturally you have CIS problems.
You start poking around the fuel distributor and airbox
because that's just where all the problems lie.
And luckily the CO adjustment knob is still in the
hole.
So I'm like, great.
So no one's messed with the CEO.
I feel confident that has been messed with.
But every time I touch the airbox, the car would
like choke out.
I'm like, oh, the boot must be loose.
Looked at it.
The boot was indeed loose around the box and took
it off, fix it back up.
And you know, I'm just kind of sitting there and my
buddy Daniel's with me.
And he's like, you know, walks up like, what are you
doing?
I'm like, oh, I'm trying to fix his car.
We're both touching it.
The car keeps dying out.
And like something is weird here.
I reached my hand underneath and the ground
cable that goes on the transmission is just
dangling, which is the ground for the entire
engine is just dangling there.
And I'm like, how is this running with the
wire being that it's the exposed braided copper
wire that goes to it was literally just pinched
between the frame horn and the air box.
That's wild.
And that's the only way the car was running.
So whenever you would accelerate, the engine would
move just enough to break the ground at the
frame horn and cause it to buck at you.
And then it would go crazy.
That's the whole thing.
Like, so like this car sat around for as many
years as it did, possibly because of a bad
ground wire, like not being attached.
Yeah.
Kind of a, if you drove it with no intent, it
wouldn't buck on you.
But it, I mean, it's just very weird, but yeah,
fix that.
And it's like, it's the best driving Mark one.
I've ever just like hopped in and drove.
Right.
That's impressive.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
It's a really nice car.
You did give me shit because it's a four door.
He's like, you don't want that.
It's a four door.
But I also, we have a kid now.
So you like want all the four doors.
It is for me.
Well, I just want it easy for us to get in.
To tell you the truth, though, I feel like it is a hard
pill to swallow.
Even though it's like, like you could find a really
nice Mark one.
When it's a four door, it's a still, it's a hard
pill to swallow.
Like it's a four door car.
It's not that it's not cool, but it's just not
two doors.
Wait.
I know.
It's also mountain green.
I had to have it.
Yeah.
We could almost talk about that.
Four door versus two door.
You know, you talk about, I remember distinctly when
I was younger, someone was like trying to sell a
car.
It was like a Nova or something like that.
And the guy was like, four doors are coming back.
Four doors are going to be desirable one day because
people have run out of two doors.
Unlike older muscle car, not muscle cars.
Four doors are not muscle cars like back then,
but it's like on older American cars, four
doors still aren't cool.
It's like, they don't bring money.
You have a Chevelle.
You get and say 35, 40 G's for it.
It's a four door Chevelle, five grand or
unless, unless it's a special, like they're,
okay.
An example, an old suicide door.
Lincoln.
Yeah.
You're right.
Yes.
But there are some, some that demand more
money.
That's what's up.
That would have been a hot rod though.
No, right.
No, but I'm just saying kind of car.
Yeah.
So even, even my Jedha, my Nari Silver Jedha,
which everyone thinks it's Toby's car.
Right.
And then you double look at it and you're like,
wait, it's a four door.
Right.
And I've never owned a four door Mark one
before that one.
And it kind of grew on me.
I'm like, wow, you can just like open the
back door and throw a box in.
Sure.
Yeah.
And you know, you can even go down the
topic of our rabbit trucks, four doors.
Yeah.
You know, because they are the front door
forward as if it's a four door front door.
It's not, it's not a two door.
It's not built as a two door.
Right.
Yeah.
Which is interesting.
Like would you think there would be a square
off this way a little bit just because of the
sound?
Okay.
Do you think it would be as cool as the
truck is now if it wasn't a regular two door
door, like a Fox wagon?
I don't think so.
I think it'd be like, I think it'd be
weird.
It doesn't.
I think a pickup, a rabbit pickup has
fantastic dimensions.
Yeah.
No.
I think that would make it strange.
I want to see a long bed rabbit truck in
person from the Netherlands.
That would be interesting.
You know, they were like, how much longer
are they?
I don't like, they're like a couple
inches longer.
Dude, I think I knew that.
When you say that, that like, I was
like, whoa, that's some, it's deep.
But yeah, there's some kind of regulations
they had to pass, which thing is
like similar our chicken tax kind of
set up where they had to be over a
certain length to qualify for something.
You know, it's weird.
I think like as we were forced into
four doors, like later on, you'd only
talk like Mark sevens and stuff.
I was just going to say that.
I feel like now, honestly, like I'm
not, and I'm not shitting on two
doors, but I feel like if it's not
a four door, it actually almost looks
a little strange because like I'm
so used to, and that's my personal
take because I'm like a two door
person when it comes to.
Absolutely.
We're like program to like them
because that's all you can get.
Right.
That's what I mean.
When they came out with a four door
they're like, we're no longer doing
a two door Volkswagen.
And I was like, what?
That's lame.
Everyone thought that was so lame.
Yeah.
But I still thought it was lame
until I had a kid.
Right.
True.
But now like I couldn't even
think of like a golf art not
being a four door.
Oh, I think it would be so much
better.
It would be really cool.
I still want a Soraco, the like
new Soraco.
Yeah.
Two door.
Yeah.
Can't do it.
Side note.
This is almost four years to the
day when we had them on the
podcast for the first time.
With the Harlequin.
Five.
At low.
2021.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My Facebook said that this on
this day four years ago I was
washing the Harlequin.
No.
That's crazy.
21.
Yeah.
This is kind of cool.
Don't even have.
Speaking of four doors.
Yeah.
You don't have that anymore.
No.
That is like one of the biggest
pet peeves of mine is when
someone does a two door Harlequin
paint.
Like it's like not only you paint
your car Harlequin.
But not talking about a Polo.
Yeah.
I mean all the Polos are four
doors too.
Yeah.
No Harlequin paint scheme can
only be a four door car
that people will do that paint
scheme on a two door.
And it throws the color
combination.
Yeah.
It doesn't make sense.
Yeah.
Like the RA that was done in
that I'm like.
Oh right.
Yeah.
I never really thought about
that.
Like how they threw that
paint scheme together because
you look at it initially and
you know what they're going for
like immediately.
You think it's random but it's
very systematic.
Right.
Right.
And it only works on four
doors because it's four
colors.
Right.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
There was that one dude that
had like the B3 Passat
wagon and PA that was like a
Harlequin.
I don't know if it was
Raptor if you painted it
or not but it was like a
couple of years ago it was
for sale.
And I was like that kind of
looks interesting.
It's I mean it's a wagon
so it works.
The colors work on that
paint scheme.
You know what?
I don't like it.
I don't like when people do
that.
A bunch of people sent me
that car and I was like I
wouldn't want it.
Even though it's a B3 I still
wouldn't want it.
It's just I don't know.
You wouldn't want it.
Wouldn't want a B3.
Not a Harlequin B3.
What are your thoughts on
when people did like the
other shades of like a
Harlequin like.
Like the like the Mark 5
commercials.
Well.
Yeah.
That was a Volkswagen
actual thing.
Danny didn't know any
different.
He just thought it was a
Harlequin because it's
like wow this is amazing.
I remember seeing that
at Waterfest in person.
I was like this is really
cool if they actually came
out with this and did that.
I remember seeing the
commercial thinking they
were going to.
That's probably why they
did it.
That's when they started
teasing on all kinds of
stuff that they never came
through for.
Can we talk about how that
was like prime bolt
wagon commercials?
Yeah.
I think we have talked
about that before.
I mean we could still
talk about it.
Well I'm just saying like
2006 Waterfest I want to
say.
And they had they had
the W12.
W12.
Do you guys remember
everyone talks about the
W12.
There was a Mark 6
version also that they
showed up with the
super wide body that was
also in white.
There's a Mark 5.
Which is the W12
and then a Mark 6
at H2O.
Do you guys remember
the Mark 6?
We had pictures with it.
Yeah.
That's when they had it
next to the
Black Beetle interview.
Was that also a W12?
Yes.
Okay.
So they did it
twice.
There was a Mark 5
version and a Mark 6
version.
I thought it was only one.
No.
It was only one.
Dude I swear to God.
There's also the W12
supercars that they built.
Well no I know that.
Those are the
Nardies or whatever.
Is that what you're
talking about?
It's like a yellow one
and a red one.
And they look like
oranges or something.
Yeah.
Don't ask me on
car.
Supercars.
Yeah.
They were grayscale with
recent peanut butter
cups inside.
Jesus.
Oh my God.
The Reese's Oreos are
great.
It's a shame you don't like
them.
No I like peanut butter.
It's okay more for me.
Yeah absolutely.
For you.
For you.
Or anyone else in the
world.
I get it.
I'm not going to look it up
right now.
Okay.
Anyone else let me know
if that was something that
like it's just I'm
remembering it totally wrong
because I you know
everyone goes back and
they're like yeah they
did it on Top Gear and
they showed like
Clarkson.
I swear to God they also
did a Mark 6
version.
W12 Mark 5.
You don't have to find those.
Mark 5.
Yeah I know the
Mark 5 definitely happened
but maybe it's like a
Mandela effect.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe you're just crazy.
I could be.
Correct.
So and then you guys
bought Louise from me.
Yeah.
I'm super excited about
that one.
Louise.
And Louis.
Louis.
Yeah you got
Louis down there.
Louis.
And Louis is
you guys are doing your
thing.
Do you guys know when
you're going to want to
actually bring that out
you don't want to talk about.
We are taking our time.
Cool.
Trying to.
Cool.
I think we've ordered
everything for it.
Oh it's been so much money
on it.
Yeah.
It's been so much money
on it.
I mean.
Those are cards for you.
You know that's
one of those deals
where you have no
like when you own the
car you had no direction.
Yeah.
You know that was
the whole thing is
really I don't know
that.
And we got the car.
I mean the only reason
why we have direction
is because we have the
ABA sitting in the
backyard.
What we have that you
don't have is a
massive accumulation
of junk.
It's a good thing.
Yeah.
It's going to come out
in some ways right.
That's a golf
country lifted mark.
Dude.
What was.
Cut up car in the
backyard starts getting
put to use.
But you think
that's the easy way out
you know you're like
oh I have this engine
sitting around on
three when it was like
well that engine turned
into a thousand dollars
and maintenance items
to begin with.
Right.
You're like oh man
it'd be cool to
put that on carbs
or throttle bodies
right.
Or massive turbo.
I mean I have agreed
that that's what we
wanted to put back
on the car.
Yeah.
I've
I've become very
swaps are cool
like modern swaps
are cool
but period correct
swaps
are cool.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Like I mean I think
a lot of people would agree
with that.
I think the reason
why people are into
modern swaps is
the drivability.
Yeah.
The 1-8T
and the mark 2 was nice
and I've said this before
but it had no soul.
Yeah.
I could see that.
I hated driving.
I didn't hate it.
It was just not
fun to drive.
I would say
1.8T's
VR6
I say that lightly
VR6 is fit in the
mark 2
because of the engine
mount setup.
But a mark 1
you know
the mark 1 is weird.
The mark 1 is the linear
progression from a
beetle
to a mark 2.
Sure.
Because mark 1
is just weird.
Not as weird as a fox
but it is
it's a stepping stone
to the mark 2.
Why did you look at Danny
when you started talking
weird?
I mean
I know but like
it's just weird.
He starts looking at
Danny.
In my eyes
the Fox
wagon
is one of the coolest
weirdest cars
Volkswagen's ever made.
Oof.
It's a two door wagon.
It's a nomad.
It's a Volkswagen nomad.
Whatever.
I mean it's weird.
It's cool.
I mean they had type 3s
they did that already.
Yeah.
But it's like a newer
version of it.
Yeah.
Which is really cool.
But you know
the mark 1 being a
stepping stone
you know there's
remnants of the O58
engine blocks
all the way up into
the modern engines
where they like
you know
why does the
O6A
engine have
mounting
like
the mounting spots
for a
mark 1 engine mount
in it still.
That's interesting.
Like why is it something
that carried over
you know I guess
it's not technically
but it's still like
able to use it
in that configuration
but
I just think the mark 1
lends itself to
that era of
four cylinder.
Yeah.
I agree.
And there's no
subframe.
What are you going to do?
I think it should
have a
four cylinder
some kind of
early
something.
I mean
you know what
I do like
some
don't get me wrong
I like
I think a 1.8
is a very
like
great
option
for a mark 1
in a lot of ways
I don't know
I just do
like I don't know
if it would be
as like
you say
solace in a
mark 2
I don't know
if it's a solace
like
my buddy had
you know
like Chad's car
just
that car
ripped.
That was a four door
wasn't it?
Yeah it was.
I mean it's
yeah I mean I guess
every blue four door
not Miami
a logo.
I just
think that
a 1.8
fits in a mark 2
a lot better
and
I think that's
a viable swap
but when you
get into a mark 1
say like the
mountain green
rabbit
like do you really
want to start
cutting up the
core support
to fit an intercooler
well
you can also say
when you're talking
certain cars like
are you
talking about a
very custom car
because at that point
it's different
if you're talking about
that particular
mountain green car
like you don't
want to
cut into that car
because it's already
the way it is
cause my plan with it
is just to
leave it
you can't
find shit like that
anymore
I love the 1.6
it's still a
CAS car too
I love it
great
the 4 door 2 door argument
to bring it full circle
is
they've gotten
so far rotted out
and so few
and far between
that now you kind of
appreciate 4 doors
yeah
just because
yep just because
I don't know
I'm trying to make excuses
for 4 doors
cause we all love
2 doors but
right
but a mountain green
car in general
like
I think if it was
a different color
I don't think I'd
feel the same
I agree with that
I think because
it's mountain green
yeah
it's not
right
you just blamed it
on our child
earlier
yeah you did
you put a lot of pressure
on that kid
it doesn't make it easier
no but the color
definitely makes the car
well the color
the color was it
cause she said
Heather always said
that
you know I don't
I guess
you could say the cats
out of the bag
she never liked to
say the color
but her mark 2
was supposed to be
mountain green
she picked the color
out of the color
book
you know she's
mixed wrong
the last car
or the last color
her mark 2
yeah yeah yeah
so that car
was mountain green
it was supposed to be
it wasn't though
I guess you could
do the debate
but you know
is that
the mountain greens
we see now
is that the true color
that mountain green
looked like in 1980
on the showroom floor
does it vary
does it vary
whatever
we always felt
the color
well it's like
a nari silver right
like any nari silver
that you get together
aren't the same color
for me
anari silver is very similar
to mountain green
just with metallic
but
it's so weird
how like
interpretations happen too
like everyone's
brain is different
nice
doing body work
changes your view
on cars
sure
yeah that's a good point
because my view
being a color blind person
obviously doesn't
it's different
but
should we just
skip over this then
I know right
what you said
like the mountain green
on our silver
is just mountain green
with like
maybe it was basically
a version of mountain green
with just a metallic
in it
well a nari silver
is a base clear
oh right
yeah
if you really think
about that
like a base clear
factory paint job
in the late 70s
and early 80s
is kind of crazy
yeah
on an economy car
that would be like
yeah
the monster threes
you see running around
with three stage paint jobs
right
but you know
that car
so her car before
was supposed to be
mountain green air quotes
you know
now that car is
getting
the treatment
how crazy is it
you know
she always said
if a mountain green mark one
popped up
that was decent
good deal
she's gonna buy it
no matter what
and it's 15 minutes
down the road
15 minutes down the road
in the whole process
the crazy thing
tearing a car apart
from that right
I had to go work
in two hours
and he's like
I can meet now
and he's like
you're the only person
who followed
looked at it
loved it
alright
I gotta go get the cash
and I was like
this is where it's gonna be
I'm gonna have to move my clients
I'm gonna be late for work
go to the bank
no one's at the bank
like no customers
there's no customers
yeah
two minutes
I was like
in and out
five minutes
I know right
and then
no traffic
no nothing
I had
30 minutes to spare
I still got to work on time
I was like
this is the easiest
car buying experience
I've ever had
it was meant to be
you always gotta try
and he's like
you know
I have 35 other messages
I need to get to
I'm like
right
in my head
I'm like great
but in my head I'm also like
I know you're not lying
right
yeah absolutely
for that car
it was a good price
it wasn't cheap
it wasn't
bring a trailer price
if that was a Mojave based car
different story
different kind of
cheaper
yeah
different
it was a four door
yeah
and you know what's funny
it's funny that
it is
so goddamn subjective
that
this could be like
like Heather was saying
it pops up
and she was like
if this comes up
we are getting it
right
and then someone else would look
at it
someone else would
literally look at it
and who knows why
through their experiences
in their life
they don't like
say green
or that shade
or whatever
and they could literally be like
I wouldn't buy one of those
I wouldn't want one
if it was given to me
right
because they're like
disgusted by
that color
now
for the most part
you'll have colors that work
with so many people
like mountain green
is a popular color
because people like it
especially like in our
some people
do not like it
you know what I'm saying
and I think the fact that
it's a one year only color
and there's
you know I think that's
really cool that
Volkswagen did that
throughout the years
that
the one year only stuff
yeah and you know
there's like
three colors
that popped in my head
immediately
yeah
silver arrow
mark 3 GTI
would be another one
and
Mojave storm beige
metallic pearl effect
on the mark 4
2001 GTI
wait say that mark
that you say the full name
wait say it again
that's amazing when it goes
say it again
it's well
one it's wild
because I think that's
one of the earliest colors
and one of the only
times Volkswagen
has done a pearl
as a factory color
it's so
wait what was the color
you just said
gold or gold
2001 mark 4
oh this is what
you guys had
and there is a variant
of that too
yeah it's
Mojave
Mojave storm beige
pearl metallic effect
is the full name
of the color
that's the same color
my wagon was
no
no
it's like more
like
there's Mojave beige
metallic
and there's also
the pearl effect
oh so many of mine
was just a beige
Mojave beige
not the pearl effect
but yeah
they get real weird
because they did
the 2001
GTI
was the only
yeah because
my wagon was
the 2001 GLX
and I wouldn't put it past
some six
wagon to do something
weird on that
but it's just
that's the three colors
that popped my head
where it's like
oh it's an oh if you see
a gold mark 4
GTI
yeah
that's a 2001
yeah
now you can get
them in different
trim configurations
but
you know what I
thought was really
lame that I
had a cornflower blue
ugh
you don't like that color
I
have the same exact
response that you do
when I first saw one
I was like
that's it
but then now
every other towels is
that's
that's where I was going
that's exactly what I was
going to say
you use this amazing
color that I was like
blown away by
when I first saw that
color
I was like
holy shit
that is unbelievable
and you water it down
by putting it on
whatever base
chaos
BSSV
so we
I hate to mention this
brand here
but it was a BMW
228i
I didn't know
it looks like a
Toyota Corolla
like I
saw this thing
and like
so does your jet outside
right now
no no no
these are like
front wheel drive
crappy cars
sure
this car is like
electric blue
like one of the brightest
coolest blue colors
I'm like
what is this thing
it doesn't base
whatever
it rolls by me
I'm like
horse power
2 liter turbo
front wheel drive
BMW 2
that's the ultimate driving car
dude
what are you talking about
228
I mean they make an
extra version of it
but I'm like
in my head
I've always said this
like stop using
cool colors to sell
crappy cars
because that's the move now
that well
and that's
yeah because people
finally realize
because the
cornflower blue car
sold
and then
what was bullshit
it was a special
edition car
because it was the
one that moved on
and they actually just made
the
2021
GTI
and they threw
cornflower blue on that
which was kind of
bullshit
because it's now
it no longer makes the
rabbit edition
very special
right
and then they just
throw it on the
cheapest little
crossover SUV they have
because they'll go
shit people
actually like
a color palette
right
so it's
just being
like you said
like gray
the shades of
black and
awful
no I like
gray scale sorry
yeah he just doesn't
see it all
we have
we have three yellow cars
yeah he likes
yellow
which one
like your
even the
R6 can you tell that
screen
he didn't know it was
green
I didn't know it was
green for Scott I thought
it was black
oh well
everybody does
that's
it's a black
looking car
until you get in the
sun
it is
yes
but like for me
blue or midnight blue
maroon
I think it's all black
oh ok
yeah
so the dark
like really rich colors
yes
go black to you
go black
favorite black
dark dark blue
always looks
black to me
I can't
I see er
no I see black
as dark blue a lot
which is weird
ok I see a lot of
like black cars
but is that because
they have a metallic
though maybe
it could be
I don't know what it is
but people go
I say that's dark blue
like that's black
speaking of that
one of the best
factory colors
is
a black
pearl
specifically like
black magic pearl
yeah
but
a freshly like
buffed
like cut
color corrected
black magic pearl
oh I thought you were gonna
say it like on a certain
no I mean
just on
anything like
that color just looks
black when the cars age
yeah
but when you get one
that's fully color corrected
in the sun
it's wild
blue
like maybe that's what you see
there's a lot of grays in it
yeah
well Heather's a hairstylist
and she's all into colors
color theory
and color wheels
and stuff
so she has a really good eye
for catching like
she's like no those colors
don't go together
I'm like
what are you talking about
I can't wear red with brown
I mean that would actually
look good
well see
I don't
I think it looks terrible
those colors don't go
well together
I'm like
I look like the little kid
from
what's the movie with
Adam Sandler
Big Daddy
you look like the kid
walking out with cowboy boots
and PJs and stuff
that's me
that's awesome
with colors
do you want to talk about
the R6 at all
sure
as far as the color goes
like that's a
it's a pretty special color
you guys brought it down
to Helen this year
and
most people thought
your car was black
and you were really angry
don't use me as an example
that's a bad example
so
no I think
because it was so fresh
I think it was too
I had it for two weeks
at that point
I bought it
they sent me pictures of it
and I was like
oh man it's really green
but a deep green
love it
got it
pulled it out of the trailer
and it was like
let's hear the technical color
I was like
that motherfucker
is black
right
and what
was that a bright day
when it pulled it out
do you remember
it was like
well
I don't even know if it was
7 a.m. on a cloudy day
right
oh yeah
you never know what it's gonna do
absolutely
the black car
cool
yeah
so I was a little disappointed
for spending all that money
and I was like
oh man
if it's really black
I'm gonna be so disappointed
but it's not when it's in the sun
in the sun it's amazing
and it's fine
I've grown
I could even just
appreciate it
it's deep green pearl
the pearl is really
awesome in that color
yeah
I'm super happy with the car
and I just have to say
so many greens
anybody that has
is not on purpose
yeah what are you doing
I don't know
anyone that ever has
the opportunity
to drive an RS6 Avant
to experience
just do it
it's one of the most
one of the coolest cars
that
I've ever driven
let alone been able to own
what's the word you've
you've like attributed
that car to
you've said it a few times
like a spaceship
spaceship
but it's
it's the craziest thing
so the car is massive
it has 22's
that look like 15's
like
the car makes a ton of power
I think it looks like a comic book
like
like a
like a batmobile
or something like that
it definitely does
because like
it's so radical
I always say
if the car was black
and I was into Batman
I would have totally done
something lame
like the batmobile or something
everything yellow
yes I would have
but it's such a
for the car
being as big as it is
it should not handle so well
right
but it also handles so well
it shouldn't ride so good
right
like you
how does it check
every single box
all the boxes
and you can go to Costco
right
throw your stuff in there
throw a family in there
like your kids
go grocery shopping
does that have four wheel steering in the back of it
yeah it does have four wheel steering
and it's
it turns on a dime
we were the house
we were staying at in Helen
I could turn
I had literally two point
turned the RS6 around in a spot
that took me seven turns
in the 964
right
and the 964 is so much smaller
yes
it's like that car should be
the one that's easier to turn
it's really incredible
I mean I know they're
they're expensive cars
a lot of people are like
you know oh that's stupid
and like talking about new cars
and stuff is hard
because so many people hate them
sure
but
what a car
I like I
I can't
speak enough positives
about the RS6 of all
yeah
and the fact that
I don't know if you heard
the most recent news on it
but they're saying that
the sales of those
this is the last year
for this body
before they're
face lifting it
or whatever they're going to do
for
to go to hybrid
they've seen a 40% sales increase
on the last year
model of the car
which is so rare
which is so rare
yeah you don't hear that at all
but you also look at the sales figures
and they say like the total
US sales of RS6
or like all A6s
and the United States
it's only like
3000 or 3500
interesting
crazy low numbers
yeah
yeah
you know it's
wagons need to come back
they do
and they've proved that
it works
SUVs
suck
other than Touareg's
T3 Touareg TDIs
go ahead and say it
the best
the best daily driver
Volkswagen has ever made
yeah
it does a lot of things
very well
it does a lot of things real well
we all have one
we all three of us have one
and it's
it's fantastic
doing
all the stuff
I sold my Golf R
to keep the Touareg
isn't that crazy
I enjoyed the Touareg as a
like all around car
more than
a brand new
2024 Golf R
remember when he tried
making the Mark 8 happen
he was like yeah
it's really great
now he's like
the Mark 8 is a great car
the technology
Golf R
Golf R
the Golf R is a great car
the GTIs leave a lot to be
people like them
they're
they're economy cars still
but the Golf R
the Climatronic setup in it
and the Infantainment setup in it
we bought it thinking
I would take it over
like I would really enjoy it
but I didn't
she didn't like it
and we need to stop with inverted wheel wells
yeah
I'm not into them
I don't know why
Volkswagen like turn that into a thing
so you know the thing
a Volkswagen guy wants to do
is like slam your car
give it at least
a degree and a half of camera in the rear
up to four or five degrees
and it always follows the body line
of the hips of the back of a hatchback
not even
always had that look
well not anymore
now it looks like someone
took a Play-Doh turd
and sat it on some cambered wheels
and it's just no matter what you do
it's a technical term
Play-Doh turd
are we talking long
are we talking
curled up
are we talking
you know when you see
speaking of like
four doors
keep going back to this
like the RS6
there's not a bad angle on that car
you can look at any single angle
and I've always said
every car has a bad angle
is that your opinion though
I mean maybe some people don't like it
every car has a bad angle
I think it's too radical for some people
definitely the styling is not like
mundane
you know it's very
loud
Heather's whole deal
like she's like Mark I
front wheel
like quarter shot fitness
she's like
I struggle
why do these wheels
not look good on this car
I'm like because it's a Mark I
with no flares
no bumpers
no
no bumpers
but you know
there's no
they look weird from certain angles
but like the Mark V
they curve in
so you see so much tire
which I'm so not used to
yeah and the Mark V
the backside of it
because the quarter panels taper
in as they go into the wheel well
it looks
funky
I don't know
it's such a weird
that's why I always thought
a lowered Mark IV looks so good
yeah
because Mark IV Golf
like
because they're so bubbly
they are
they just like everything
all the lines
just work together so well
especially when you
just like you said
like if you have that
on backshot
with a few degrees of camber
with a really aggressive wheel
not poking
but really aggressive
it looks so good
yeah because it does flow
so well against the whole
the whole
it's kind of like buying a car
yeah
and you're all about it
and then
two months into ownership
you realize it has an aerial
intent on the roof
that you didn't see
when you bought it
and then the more you look
into it though
a lot of people did do that
back in the day
it was a very popular mod
I mean
the car's pretty period
as it is
but I mean as a driver car
goes the markets are great
okay
yeah
oh yeah
yeah when you took me out
that one night
and you showed me that
donuts
yeah
and a Volkswagen
like how do you
that's cool
it's very cool
it is
and it was impressive
but then don't park it
next to an RS6 of all
because it's pretty much
that's your problem
see
it probably is
what happened
you might have been
totally cool with that car
for quite a while
you know what's it to
you know price point
on that car too
is on this like
1500 pickup trucks
fully spec'd out
2500
no look
it's the same price
like it's not really that far off
no how about this
so I'm looking
I'm in the market
for a 3500 Ram Dooley
you're right
for the same money
for a brand new Golf R
you get a 2012
Ram 3500 Dooley
with like 180,000 miles
I know
the truck market
is just stupid right now
insane
well it's been for years now
it really has taken off like
the hot shot is not helping that either at all
no I mean
everything's just
whacked
it's just crazy
you know what
you said
you said the RS6
you said the RS6
was now like selling so well
and it's last year
before a facelift
but I
I don't know if you guys
have seen like
the new Q5s
and the new SQ5s
the new new ones
but like
you know how
the last iteration
just the same as like
the A5s
and the S5s
and stuff like
they have that stupid
front end for like
if you hit a person
it's supposed to protect
but it looks like
it got like
you know like punched in the face or whatever
the newest versions
are silly
they're even worse
the angle is like
it looks like a broken
duck beak or something like
like a duck just ran into a wall
and it's just like
curved down
it looks awful
I think it looks awful
well every everyone
you know you always see the articles
so the next RS6
might look like shit is what I'm saying
it does
have you not seen that
no that's what I don't
it looks boring
it's almost like they took
I don't think they've released
actual images of it
I guess it's like
looking at new iPhones
you know cars
but I'm sure you're up
to get it a year before we do
but
you know everyone talks about
the coolness
like oh like everything's
going away from this
but like
when you really think about
how many
non SUVs
car manufacturers make
or everyone's like
oh these are the top
these are the last 15 cars
you can buy in a manual
you know I'm sure you've seen
the article
like Jalopnik or whatever
yeah
someone needs to compile
this is the last
group of cars you can buy
that isn't an MPV
an MPV is a multi-purpose vehicle
and there's like
whole insurance
like
Volkswagen got caught
with the TDI scandal
the MPV is a loophole
through emissions requirements
this is why the Touareg
wasn't affected as
as extremely as the
Passats were because
the Passat is considered
a car
yeah
the Touaregs are considered
an MPV
right
MPVs are held to
less stringent crash test
ratings
just like trucks are
they're allowed to have
more relaxed emissions
and that's why all these
car manufacturers
are going to them
but then you have
something like the RS6
that it's still a car
it's not an SUV
because SUVs
get away with so much
more stuff
and it's like
real cars can you still buy
right
yeah
you go to Volkswagen
what can you buy
a Jetta
right
what's interesting
about the RS6
Golf
is how
how
radical the styling was
when it first came out
because if you look at
a lot of stuff now
it's very similar
everything looks the same
like we were talking about before
an Audi A4
or an S4 now
like the modern
newest versions
they don't look very much
different
looking at like
oh is that a Jetta
I don't know it's an A4
oh it's an S4
oh ok
well the RS6 is like
you know that's an RS6
right
the A8s are worse
like you spend all this money
on an A8
and that's the ultimate
if you know you know cars
yeah yeah
definitely
because you know
we were looking at A8s
and Heather's like
it just looks like an A4
and like
if you blurred your eyes
a little bit you would never
know the difference
yeah
it just smoothed out
and like
very plain
I didn't want a sedan though
I wanted a wagon
yeah wagon
that's the other thing
but still
check the boxes
you don't want an SUV
and you don't want
a sedan
yeah
you know what
there's like two options
and they're
really expensive cars
yeah
well you want something
cool too
like something like
you know fun to drive
every day
I mean there's no
there's no Passat anymore
there's no
isn't they already
undone too
yeah that's done
there's no
there's no CC
there's literally just
a Jetta if you want
a sedan
and then
a GTI
is there even wagons anymore
are the wagons done
in the
in the Volkswagen
yeah
like there's no wagons anymore
are there
you get an ID buzz
you get an ID 4
I guess I didn't
maybe kind of a wagon
I don't know
I wouldn't say so
yeah but what is it
it's a whatever
it's a hatch
it's a
four door hatch
weird
whatever
yeah
you say it
yeah I don't care for it
but
it's unfortunate because
like there's nothing to
really look forward to
coming out
we were talking that
I think the bus would
have done so much better
if they put a 2 liter
turbo in it
or at least offer
or a 1.5
just a gas
motor
I don't know man
the rental car that we have
with the Jetta
this a 1.5
yeah well you could
tune that
and do stuff to it
and be like
okay this is
kind of cool
like it deserves
something
it was one of your most
iconic things
that you've ever done
ever
recently
a recent time
it may be the most
iconic vehicle
that Volkswagen
literally created
other than the Beetle
right
because like
every
I mean more people
that don't know
like about anything
show them a bus
and they know
what a Volkswagen
bus is
but I think they would
have sold so many
even at a 2 liter turbo
yeah
no absolutely
obviously it's not
exciting
it's also $80,000
but I don't think
they wouldn't be
at $80,000 for a 2 liter
turbo
no it would be
probably like
more manageable
45
yeah I think more people
would buy that
absolutely
yeah because they are
fun looking
interior wise
interior they're cool
when I see them
I think they're so fun
I'm like
I wouldn't want one
but I think they're
cute to see
that's part of the
problem
I wouldn't want one
I would totally
fuck with an
07K
ID bus
oh definitely
I think that would be
really cool to have
but I mean it's never
gonna happen
alright go buy one for
$80,000
throw it all out
I wonder how much
you could get if you
bought a brand new car
and parted it out
or you could get
one from co-part
if you parted
the whole thing
and just documented
it and see if you could
actually get
your money back
you could get
one from co-part
that's been a flood
but just the
batteries are
flooded out
and then you just
pull those mother
fuckers out
and then go to
no I'm saying if you have
is all the batteries
like if you're pulling them out
now does it no longer
have a floor or anything
like is it part of
the body
I don't even know
how many batteries does it
even have
no idea
someone's gonna do it
they've LS swapped
Teslas
someone's gonna put
an 07K or a VR6
and an ID bus
at some point
it's gonna be cool shit
it's gonna be really good
yeah you know
that's gonna happen
for sure
and I can't wait
absolutely
I'm not buying one
no
I'm not either
would you buy one
if it was 40
and had
I don't know
whatever motor you wanted
a VR6 turbo
okay what would it be
what are the ones called
CRT-A
whatever it is
the Chinese
VR6 turbo
yeah sure
if it just had
anything else
other than just
the electric motor
does your work
do the same thing to you
the if
would you if
this or that
oh that's my favorite
game to play in the car
would you if
yeah
or this or that
so like we'll be in the car
and I'll see a Prius
pull that up just a little bit
yeah there you go
I'll be in the car
and I'll see a Prius
and I'm like okay
Prius
and a million dollars
or
what was
what's the
Hyundai
like you have to be in the Prius
or
yeah yeah yeah
you can only
can you not have
any other car
no you can have
you have to drive
majority of the time
or the new
Hyundai
ugly
whatever they are
and version of whatever
yeah
like
so I do that all the time
I don't know what it's called
oh the Hyundai
yeah
they're so ugly
yes very bad
Hyundai Ionic
yeah
no I don't think it's the Ionic
it's the Hyundai
in the car
it's like the
SUV
yeah it's an SUV
it's like a big toaster
oh yes the Santa Fe
the Santa Fe
they are one of the
worst
looking vehicles
and
it's funny my brother
in law was like
this thing's amazing
like he loves that thing
for some reason
he has one
and he's like
I want one of those
did he see the back of it
yeah it's like
flat in the back
I know did he see it
oh yeah he's like
this is so cool
he's a very techy
nerdy guy
that's like
loves the screens
of it and everything else
so
he's
he doesn't have style
at all
so which one would you do
have you ever seen
a B3
from the front
I've rocked a
shit other
Prius in the million
dollars
back and forth to work
I mean I'd rock
not the current
I don't know I only
can picture the first gen
Prius because like
the million dollars
would pay for all the
cool cars for the weekend
I mean you could do
anything else
rocked it back and forth
to work
I don't mind
see you guys
don't do that
you guys don't have
these
like we have to
travel
like an hour to work
over commute
so we'll
just throw on a
podcast like
it's not about the park
whatever
keep going
keep going
yeah
as you would
yes
two ways to look at that
right
you should have a fun car
because you're going
an hour to work every
time
so you should have fun
or like that's
your like zone out time
where you don't
have to care about any
of that
maybe I just had an epiphany
that's my problem
yeah
that's your problem
buying cool cars
to daily drive
I would agree with that
especially because
you drive an out
I don't know
Prius
I could smash
what about like
on Friday
you drive
the fun car
and then every other
time in these daily
drivers
you do want to cool
so we came up with
a new metric
we came up with a new metric
to feel
if your daily driver
is cool enough
and right for you
okay
with Heather
so this is how it works
right
do you
do you think about
putting gas in it
do you complain
about putting gas
in it
in my daily
and your daily
like are you like
80 bucks
like really
I don't think
about it
then you like it
if you
when you go to the pump
and you're like
80 bucks
I think about that
when I put it in the truck
when I drive the truck
then that's not a good daily
that's not a good daily
oh
this truck
it's like
I got 300 miles out of the tank
and I just put 80 dollars
in three days ago
but her
her Audi doesn't get the great
it's like
17 on
I think average
17
well the problem is
when you drive it
yeah whatever
but whenever
she's
whenever we're going to
put gas in it
you're like
I don't put this in perspective
I just got the mark for
jet a wagon
that's like a 3-2 swap
it gets like 300 miles
of the tank
and I'm filling it up
every three days
I'm like this is amazing
I don't even think about it
don't daily that though
because you'll destroy it
I don't daily because
you're going to hit a deer
it's my summer-ish daily
that's how I'm looking at it
that's when the deer
out the most
no
they're out in the fall
the most
when they're like
running
and like
they want to go to town
just running in front of you
oh yeah definitely
exactly
it's because your own
place too much
you said rutting
like in the rut
so that's when they start drooling
for the females
and they don't care
I remember you guys
talking about that
they start running all over the place
yeah they don't
they don't care
they can't think straight
all they need to do
is procreate at that moment
I feel like
do you guys have a lot of possums?
that's the dumbest question
what?
I feel like
an old possum
well I mean like
I feel like
I see more possums
where we live
you guys have more deer
we have
we have possums
we're not like the old
the old possum
dude no we have a lot of them
we have a fox
you see foxes running around
everywhere by us
we see a couple
fox wagons
no just fox
like the tail ones
red foxes
yeah red fox
yeah
we're in super suburbia
red fox
we're like
Shawshank Redemption
but red
right
right
yeah so
the bottom line is
Danny's just gonna keep hitting deer
with like
nice daily drivers
don't
yeah
don't do that
I don't want to do that
I do not want to do that
cause you
maybe I was like
paying attention
to the whole family
that just walked in the house
when you guys were just
talking about this
but
you have that car
that you like so much
that you got
because it's special
and it's fun and everything else
how much
are you gonna kick yourself
in the balls
and I'm not gonna
wood everybody
we all
kid about this
I don't want
Danny
to be hitting deer
I think it's funny
but I don't
want him to be
hitting deer
except for the fact
there's too many deer
well there's
way too many deer
so yeah
Danny's doing his part
you know what I mean
but other than that
how much is that
gonna suck
if that were to happen
you know what I mean
like that's like
the special car
but if it was just
your normal
I don't give a
right back to Prius
is that what we're going back to
I don't know
and a million dollars
and a million dollars
yeah I mean
I don't know
why you wouldn't do that
I would
I definitely would
and then put that car away
for like the weekend
car and the other weekend
car and the other weekend
car we have
if you had to get
try to convince her
about getting a daily
for her daily now
that's the problem
you get a nice
daily
and it snowballs
you need a daily
for a daily
I take the Touareg
if I just like
if I have a lot of stuff
I need to take to work
if I have to go down
to Atlanta
if I have to do
something I'm
taking the Touareg
I mean it is
a little insane
I know
to get
I know
what
I was gonna say
oh is that crazy
someone asked me that
they were like
do you daily that car
and I was like
yeah
that I drive
to Costco
to Target
on the same
coin
I also believe you only live once
and you should have fun
every moment that you can
I mean
I will say
when I bought that car
I wanted to
throw up
because I was like
what did I do
yeah but it's also
something like
that is
do you guys
plan on keeping that
for a long time
I plan on keeping that
for a very long time
good
yeah
good
there's no other choice
I will say
I got into his market
and I was like
this is
this is terrible
everything about this is
terrible
the doors you have to slam
shut
you know what's so funny
is like
you talk like that
like what this is terrible
on the market
but you get to a more
important this is
amazing
yes
but it's different
yes
exactly
it's the feeling
you get
and that's the whole
new cars
like
say the markets
are just not
like that
does this give you that
feeling
speaking of markets
can they take the
shipping blocks out
you know on your rental
car
what do you mean dude
dude
why
so our rental car
we drove all the way
here about an hour
and a half
and I'm like
this thing
rides like
crap it rides like
a mark two
on cut springs
right
we all know how
that feels
and I get here
and he's got his
broken wagon
on jack stands
and I'm like
yo let me borrow that
jack real quick
because I have a hunch
jack this
Jetta up
and it has shipping
blocks still in it
that were never removed
from the PDI
15,000 miles ago
good job dealership
or dealership
yeah
and this
my Golf R
still had the
shipping blocks in it
that's crazy to me
that the Golf R
still had it
because I feel like
okay the Jetta
it's a fleet vehicle
they're just
like
whatever
just get it out
so we can start
making money
but like
the fact that you're
the craziest thing
is it's borderline
dangerous
right
because you have
no suspension travel
in the front
it's just like
cut springs
like you said
it is dangerous
and I'm like
and I wonder
how much stress
that's actually
putting on the
springs too
themselves
like
well none
because they can't
do anything
I'm just trying to think
all these people that
rented this car
well I drove through
downtown Philly
on the cobblestones
with
the
shipping blocks
still in the front
likely rattled my teeth
out of my head
while I had a baby
trying to sleep in the back
and I'm like
there's something wrong here
yeah
that's crazy man
what's more crazy
is like
this car's got
15,000 miles on it
and Ariel's the first one
that's like
wait something's wrong here
well most people get
in the car
and that's the people
might still have been
like wow this feels like
shit
and then
a rental car
to actually check it out
so get into that car
and get a false perception
of what this looks like
and rise like
I'll never have a Volkswagen
that rental
that was awful
is terrible
it's still a terrible car
it's like a 13,000
dollar car
right
and it should be
priced at that point
it should be
to me there's
like such a place
for that
like I actually
look at that car
and I'm like
I was thinking
when I just moved it
to the daily thing
getting a deer
yeah I could see
getting a deer with this
like
I could see going
just going
how much are they new
remember back in the day
like Jetta's
and Passat's for
$15,000
$23,000
$24,000
yeah I think you can
get one like
I don't know
this is like
a couple years ago
you can get one
still for like
19
which I guess is cheap
I don't think
you can get one
it's like
$22,000
for a base
and that's cheap
new cars suck
yeah so old cars roll
and new cars suck
new cars roll
get an RS6
and a mountain green car
I want to tow one of the
cars with the RS6
I think
well that's what they do in Europe
it does all the towing
yeah
only for photos
yeah absolutely
I mean that car
could handle
a little Mark 1
on like a little
14 foot
trailer
not for 14
single acts
no I'm just saying
like
something cool
you know
they still have
the RS6
still has a
conventional automatic
transmission in it
it's
very very tuned
but
if it was a manual
oh my god
whose transmission do they use
it's like the
8 speed
it's like
an AMF
it's not an
S tronic
or a DSG
like it's not a dual clutch
transmission
it's still like
a conventional
torque converter
transmission
it doesn't feel like it though
that thing walks hard
yeah
crazy
that's cool
it's probably like
you know
it will be equivalent to a
high-speed converter
or a shift-kitter
I don't want to know
the technology
no it's all a tronic
yeah
I'm talking like
mechanical stuff
but it's all a tronic
crazy
craziness
new cars suck
both wagon needs to
get their shit together
dude
it seems like they're not
it seems like they've got
a couple years
to figure stuff out
or they're just not
going to get their stuff
together
that's what they say
yeah
like two years
or they're going to have
like such serious problems
see like yeah
most things are going to be
like subsidized
and be like
a shell of a company
but we know why
oh absolutely
because they've
faulted the wagon
but here's my thing
let me ask you guys this
real quick
before we
I mean we're already
in an hour which is good
because we have a few
of these to do
within the weekend
so maybe we can
make them
boop
but
how
do you guys think
like that
the way the whole
market has gone
and the way that
technology has gone
we kind of skipped
over the hybrid thing
then we went to
full electric
now we're going back
to maybe hybrid talk
and everything else
and people say
well they need to come out
with something
cool
like they used to be
so innovative
and different
and when you think
like innovative
and different
they were so different
that they were
making stuff
that like
no other brand
was doing
say like a
a G40 or G60
right like
why did they
even do it
it's just so
even do that now
like are we just
in a place where
like is it even
what could they do
that would be so different
that we wouldn't be going
almost backwards
this is the problem
they've been forced
into what their
currently
this current situation is
like this is all I think
not necessarily by
designed to like
bankrupt the company
and make it into like
a shelved company
but like
with the diesel
hybrid technology
they had
getting hundreds of
miles per gallon
out of these kind of
passenger vehicles
they were forced to like
abandon that whole thing
to go to electric
which we know is a joke
so it's like
if you look at
what they were doing
and what their technology
was there and capable of doing
it's like
they've been
Volkswagen
as a brand has been
like first
in a lot of things
that they've done
over the decades
DSG transmission
yes
yeah
hands down one of the best
I mean Volkswagen
was like one of the first
I remember they would
black out the scan tools
and then they were
ring them
when I worked at the dealer
really?
yeah
it was a heavily guarded
secret
and now
almost every
performance car
has a
DSG style
transmission
look
like the mass
producing
of turbo motors
and passenger
vehicles
2 liter
turbo
exactly
that's kind of my point
that's kind
of my
point
like we got
into a point
where
where it's like once you discover the formula that sells good enough to keep your profits coming back
that's the formula you use right but over and over and over but if you're if you're going back to
say music it's a great you can't go a while so many doing so many times yeah but what I'm saying
is like how there are so there's only so many combinations of music that you can put together
now that because everything has been done so many times it is so much harder now to be different
than it was in 1960 yeah you know what I'm saying yeah so like that it's kind of the same way with
with there's only so many keys there's only so many keys so you have yeah you know a four a two
liter turbo front-wheel drive you have a six cylinder turbo rear wheel or all-wheel drive
you have a v8 twin turbo right before like you know everybody's flagship car is a v8
valley mount twin turbo all-wheel drive right rs6 is on yeah it fits that bill of it's the car in
the court of v8 twin turbo all right here's a way of looking at it the technology is there to do a lot
of things but they're not allowed to come out with technology to the mainstream because if you look at
technology for like all right back in the 70s where it can have a carburetor vehicle go 100
miles per gallon that's a carburetor v8 doing 100 miles per gallon technology is there there's
not letting technology come out either you know in a timely fashion or maybe they don't want to come
out too fast or they don't want certain technology come out all because now you're giving the market
something they want as opposed to the companies or wherever governments giving it what the government
wants you to have or what the market wants you to have I'm just I'm just thinking like that
everyone was talking about the the new you know the new possible golf bar and it could be a
five-cylinder turbo and this is what we've all been talking about the whole time yeah but also like
but that's it yeah that's the only thing that they could possibly do that would be so awesome
that like it's taken out of another car putting it in there it's just basically this yellow car
ridden with a different body but is it sad that I still miss the performance like cars they would
come out with the versions instead of just this all like same stuff like give me the performance
one the enthusiast one give us something completely different that you haven't put on any other car you
have but they like the chinese but the mqb mark you know the mqb and the meb platforms that they've
designed is inherently designed the cars to be more watered down you're right because they all
start from the same mold I mean it's brilliant when you think about it's it's so they to do what
they did is fantastic in business sense so they said that they said that the mqb design is like on
it's on the level of like Henry Ford and the Model T assembly line like that's how crazy it
actually works like they're comparing it to Henry Ford in the Model T assembly line again another
first that like Volkswagen has been on the forefront it always seems like Volkswagen
does these big like milestone first and then it is like go away from it or or the rest of the market
catches up but they can't keep up once the rest of the market catches up like the rest of the market
starts doing the same thing or something similar and everyone just buys the rest of the market
where they could have been buying the first I mean Volkswagen still is like the second most
popular car around the world you're right so it's not like people aren't just like running
out like they figured out the formula like you're talking about they figured out the four chords that
everyone's gonna like listen to I think they really missed a mark on the the the electric vehicles
because they really thought that they were going to be doing x y and z they were forced
the diesel gate yes every every electric commercial you saw up until I think like three years ago
was basically paid for and produced by Volkswagen by law they were forced to make it's crazy for
other manufacturers as well where it's like you know talking about being in like the forefront
certain things they're not even they weren't even allowed to be because okay electric vehicle cool
we're forced to do this we're gonna do one that has a thousand mile range nope i'm not gonna do that
we'll give you one of 200 mile range but I don't think they can maybe not possibly not I really
don't think that they can and not not without to get really nerdy but like battery technology
nuclear batteries you got to get into what's that truck company that they're backing now
the electric revian revian no no no they pulled out of that one oh international oh international
scouts the scouts yeah the scouts the Volkswagen was supposed to be in with revian yes they backed
out right in lieu of the international scout brand wish ironically they will I don't know exactly the
same as a revian in the scouts such an iconic brand name that like you could really
do something really good with that but you're right they're so lame like what happened to cool
car commercials like I remember watching a zuzu gemini commercials over and over again on youtube
where the cars are like driving on two wheels through the city and like jumping over rivers and
stuff and it's like have you seen the international scout commercial no it's like a father and a son
like towing their original yeah they're like they're like towing their original international
scout like the car style like off-road car and he's like I got this one he hops in the electric
international thing and it's like towing this car back I'm just like get out of here so lame a
thing why is it so lame like show me this electric international scout like pulling trees out of
the ground or something because it'll die in like 10 miles everything is so fake to get you to buy
it so it is and it's so it's so transparent too I mean everybody can see that now yeah no one
wants everyone knows they're just like market speaking and saying we don't want this yeah
you've got to do again what I'm saying is like what is better what can they do that they haven't
already done without going backwards you're six travel out of China sure go far sure
but again the five cylinder turbo is like a pretty good substitute for that it is but it's
like okay now you look at the Audi argument that they didn't want this car to have it it's like
okay now you guys yeah now we're good enough we're done with this motor hasn't here's your golf bar
with the with the turbo it's true I don't think we're gonna get it I don't think so at all honestly
you don't even think they're ever gonna make it no I think it's just hyped up yeah on the
forums and people are talking about but I don't think because Volkswagen hasn't put out anything
about it zero so it's just like a wishful thinking it's crazy that's been everywhere
and if they do make it I doubt anyone at this table is a gonna be able to afford one or be be able
to actually get their hands on one at least new yeah maybe we will listen to existence Ryan the
podcast itself yeah they listen give me a give me an rs3 wagon in America in America that's what
I want I'm happy with my 32 swapped for motion mark for I'm just gonna keep driving my
2012 Honda pilot into where dude your r32 is awesome thanks man I you know I had the red r32
and I thought I wanted an r32 and I didn't like it yeah and then when I came up to buy Luis we
rode in your r32 and I'll keep thinking about it yeah that's good that's a cool car thanks
it was an rs6 of on and it's do a lot of cool things very well it makes a lot of noises it
is wild it's wild I don't want to buy that one next
it's just all that's not necessarily a bad thing if you can find some friends where you
like play cards together not cars cars together yeah okay maybe if I dump enough money on Luis
we can just straight trade back there you go it's your own way there now but yeah I mean I was
seriously impressed by that r32 thanks there's something about it where the car feels fast but
it's not trying yeah and that says a lot yeah yeah that's a good point I don't think you talked about
it enough okay well thanks for bringing up uh we're at uh we're at a buck to 11 here and I was just
gonna say moral the story new cars blow except except for our six of yeah and old cars are
fucking awesome yeah and it's like that's every episode episode it's so cool that you rock the
old stuff yeah keep them on and it is cool that like literally you guys can say right yeah we love
our rs6 and I love my four-door mountain green 1.6 liter fucking gas engine four speed probably
four speed yeah save this part rabbit yeah early westy yeah she gotta cover all bases you know yeah
she dailies the rs6 but then she's like I think I want to drive the rabbit today it's a nice
day I'm gonna drive the rabbit absolutely yes um maybe the on the fifth episode of you guys coming
on you can talk about your mark two whenever that finally comes out oh yeah I'm so excited yes
all right well thank you guys for coming on thanks guys we did it again we'll talk to you guys next
time here we'll go ahead and say it boos nice see you
you
About this episode
A lively discussion unfolds as Ryan and Danny welcome Heather and Aro back to the podcast, diving into their recent beach outing and cheese night adventures. The conversation shifts to cars, particularly Heather's new mountain green Mark I, which she acquired unexpectedly. They share stories about the quirks of owning classic Volkswagens, the challenges of car ownership, and the nostalgia of past models. The episode also touches on the evolution of car design, the impact of electric vehicles, and the joys of driving unique cars, all while maintaining a light-hearted and humorous tone.
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4th time on the podcast? We welcome back Errol and Heather and talk about new and old vehicles, what they mean to us, and the reasons we choose different cars for different reasons. Check it!
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