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Company
Polestar
A modern car company owned by Volvo that focuses entirely on making stylish, high-performance electric cars.
Brand
Saturn
A former brand of cars made by General Motors that was famous for having plastic side panels that wouldn't dent when hit by shopping carts.
Car
Scion xB
A very boxy, square-shaped small car made by Toyota's youth brand, Scion, which became popular for its unique look and spacious interior.
Car
Chrysler PT Cruiser
The Chrysler PT Cruiser is a small family car with a unique, old-fashioned design meant to look like cars from the 1930s. It was designed to be highly practical with a spacious interior and removable seats.
Brand
Scout Motors
A classic American brand known for making tough, old-school off-road trucks, which is now being brought back to make modern electric SUVs.
Term
range extender
A small gas engine in an electric car that doesn't move the wheels, but instead acts like a generator to recharge the battery so you can drive further.
Car
DeLorean DMC-12
The famous silver car with doors that open upward like wings, best known for traveling through time in the movie *Back to the Future*.
Car
Honda Prelude
The Honda Prelude is a sporty, two-door car made by Honda. It was a popular model in the past and is being brought back as a modern, fuel-efficient hybrid vehicle.
Car
Renault Alpine
The Alpine A610 is a rare, sporty two-door car made by the French company Renault in the 1990s. It has its engine in the back and is known for its sleek, aerodynamic design.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
The Chevrolet Camaro is a famous American sports car known for its powerful engine and aggressive styling. While the traditional gas-powered version was recently discontinued, the manufacturer plans to bring the name back in the future.
Brand
Bristol Cars
A very exclusive, quirky British car company that made expensive, hand-built luxury cars in very small numbers.
Car
Bristol Fighter
A rare, high-speed British supercar with doors that open upward, powered by a massive V10 engine borrowed from a Dodge Viper.
Person
Preston Tucker
An ambitious American inventor who tried to build a revolutionary, super-safe car in the 1940s to compete with the biggest car companies, but was forced out of business.
Brand
Monteverdi
A high-end Swiss car brand from the 1960s and 70s that put powerful American engines inside beautiful Italian-designed bodies.
Car
Monteverdi High Speed 375
A rare, high-speed Swiss luxury car from the late 1960s that used a powerful Chrysler engine and a beautiful Italian body.
Car
Buick Model 27
The Buick Model 27 is an extremely old, open-top car from the early 1900s. It features wooden-spoke wheels and a basic design from the very beginning of the automotive industry.
Car
Lucid Air
The Lucid Air is a high-end, battery-powered luxury sedan. It is designed to travel very long distances on a single charge and features a modern, minimalist interior with lots of screen space.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a high-end sports car made by the German company Porsche. It is famous for having its engine in the back of the car and has been a symbol of speed and luxury for decades.
Car
GMC Safari
The GMC Safari is a boxy, mid-sized van that was popular in the 1980s, 90s, and early 2000s. It was built like a truck, making it stronger for pulling trailers and carrying heavy loads than typical family minivans.
Car
Dodge Viper
The Dodge Viper is a high-performance American sports car that was built with a very large and loud 10-cylinder engine. It is famous for being extremely fast and having a simple, aggressive design without many electronic safety features.
Car
Land Rover Range Rover
The Range Rover is a large, luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It is designed to be extremely comfortable and fancy inside while still being able to drive through tough off-road terrain like mud and deep water.
Car
Porsche Boxster
The Porsche Boxster is a small, two-seat convertible sports car made by Porsche. It has its engine placed in the middle of the car, which helps it balance and turn corners very well.
Car
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
The Mazda Miata is a small, lightweight convertible car that is designed to be fun and easy to drive. It is widely known for being affordable, reliable, and highly engaging on twisty roads.
Term
torque vectoring
A smart system in modern cars that sends more power to the wheels on the outside of a turn, helping the car steer and corner much better.
Car
Ford Bronco
The Ford Bronco is a boxy, tough SUV built for driving off-road. It has a classic look inspired by older models, and you can take the doors and roof off to drive in the open air.
Car
Ferrari Luce
This likely refers to the Ferrari GTC4Lusso, a sporty four-seat car with a hatchback-style rear. It is designed for comfortable long-distance driving and features a special dashboard screen just for the front passenger.
Term
directional headlights
Headlights that turn left or right when you turn the steering wheel, helping you see around dark corners before you drive into them.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The 1957 Chevrolet Corvette is a classic, vintage American sports car with a distinctive rounded body and chrome details. It is highly valued by collectors because it helped establish the Corvette as a fast and stylish vehicle.
LIVE
Welcome to Best in Class, the podcast where we talk about the best versions of the best
cars.
Thank you for joining me, Steve, Andrew, and Veronica, we're all here.
What up?
How are you doing?
You guys doing good?
Great.
Very good.
It's so good.
Okay.
So I'm going to jump right into it because I know you guys are excited for 4th of July,
in case one of us is.
Can't wait.
In honor of Polestar being killed off in the US, pour one out for Polestar, we're going
to talk about what car brands that we think should be resurrected today.
So when I sent this to you guys, what did you, did you immediately have one you wanted
to bring back?
I thought of Saturn.
I miss Saturn a lot.
You know, plastic bodies.
Yeah.
I really, you know, it was really cool.
It was like, let me pick the ugliest brand possible.
But then I didn't, I didn't chose it.
I don't know.
I think Saturn's a cool SL1, SL2s.
Those are sleek looking future machines.
God, I dated a guy with a Saturn.
He probably wasn't that cool.
No, and may he rest.
Oh, he rested.
He did not in the Saturn.
He did not in the Saturn.
He did not kill him.
May he rest.
He was a lot older.
He was a bit older.
He was a bit older.
Oh, okay.
Man, that car was unattractive.
Did you buy it new?
I believe it was a hand-me-down.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I was like, you know, you got to be a certain type of individual to buy a Saturn brand
and do a Saturn.
Did you know anyone with a Saturn?
You know, I had a guy that worked at the dealership I used to work at, you know, and he actually
had eight Saturns.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
The head porter.
Great guy.
I don't want to name him, but I love him dearly and he's one of the coolest people ever.
But I think he had seven or eight Saturns.
Okay.
And it's like, I respect the hustle.
That's an interesting collection.
Why would he do that to himself?
He was telling the stories of the day that he opened up the Saturn dealership.
Oh, well, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
So he was there when the Saturn dealership opened and closed.
Yeah.
Okay.
He was like, well, if no one else is buying them, I might as well.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I worked on, I was working at the ad agency that had Toyota when they shut Scion down.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I almost got a Scion.
I wrote the web page that said, Scion's not around anymore.
There you go.
Okay.
Yeah.
It had to be seen by.
So you're the grim reaper.
It had to be approved by 1200 people.
Right.
And each for that sentence, there was quite the committee, but.
Wow.
Yeah.
Because obviously, you know, there's a website and they had to put up like, this is no longer.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No new models.
Anyway, kind of a random thing to work on when they're like, oh, by the way, no more
Scion.
Yeah.
And we all knew way before.
Well, right when they came out, I think we knew, right?
No, those are the best.
The little XBs.
They were so cool when they came out.
They were before my time.
I was a child.
I mean, it was like the perfect car for like a DJ.
A tattoo artist.
A set florist.
A florist.
A dog walker.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Because the space you're in right now.
The boxiness.
Yeah.
We had the Nissan Cube that was kind of the parallel.
I mean, and gosh, what was America doing?
The PT Cruiser.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
PT Cruiser.
XB is a much nicer car.
So building on that.
Yeah.
Other brands.
I listed some brands that have been recently brought back.
Let's go.
So the first one, Scout Motors, because Bronica.
Because of me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're a Scout owner.
That's right.
And a Scout influencer.
Volkswagen has brought that back, but all electric, right?
Electric with a gas generator?
Okay.
So the gas engine only charges the batteries.
Yes, that's right.
An extender.
This is the word I was talking about.
Range extender.
Range extender.
Okay.
Which I believe is only coming on one of the two.
I think it's coming on the SUV, not the Terra, but don't quote me on that.
Next up is DeLorean.
Fun fact, DeLorean headquarters, I think they still are, at least one of them, was in Huntington
Beach.
It was right next to my high school.
The HB.
Yeah.
Wow.
So you were seeing them new?
No.
No, because it was just, it wasn't anything.
It was just a.
A building.
A building.
Yeah.
It was an office.
And you and I just saw the real one from back to the future.
The Peterson.
We did go to the Peterson and see.
Very cool.
Yeah.
Very cool.
A full replica, right?
It's got all the peripherals.
The one that was used in the movie.
Yeah.
That's cool.
The real one.
Very cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's cool.
So, but now you can buy a brand new 80s DeLorean.
Wait, I'm sorry.
It's brand new from the 80s.
Yeah.
So they had a stock of parts collected up.
Yeah.
So this company, this guy who is a DeLorean enthusiast, and they're in Texas now.
Mm-hmm.
Bought all the parts and there's a huge warehouse of them and you can buy it and they will build
it the same way.
So it's literally as if it came off.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Are they doing well?
I mean, I think they're still round.
I didn't really look into it, but for a minute.
All right.
Because apparently what you can do is you can order one and they fixed all the problems.
Well, like.
Underpowered.
Did they fix the fact that it had a French V6 in it?
Or is it still that engine?
I know.
It's I just I think they made it a stronger engine because it was so heavy.
Okay.
That was the issue, right?
It was very slow.
Mm-hmm.
One of the 80s electronics, I think, let it down.
The door hinges had a pension or pension for closing, like not working and people got
their hands trapped.
Oh.
That was a big thing.
It's exciting.
And that, yeah.
So anyway, also Honda Prelude is back.
Wow.
That's more of a name plate.
It's not really a brand.
I was going to say.
Yeah.
Honda's been around.
Have you guys driven one?
The new prelude?
No.
Have you?
No.
Okay.
I was going to say.
Yeah.
Also, this is one.
I don't know, Andrew, if you've heard of this Alpine.
Absolutely Alpine.
Alpine.
Alpine.
Yeah.
Renault Alpine.
Yeah.
Oh, again confused.
Bronca, did you not know this one?
I didn't know this because I thought Alpine was like added to other brands like BMW.
That's Alpina.
Alpina.
Yeah.
I mean, totally different.
Understandable, but yeah, totally different.
Reading is my third language.
But it's Renault.
Yeah.
Oh, Renault brought it back.
Yeah.
I see.
So it's a sports car and now they make a little modern sports car that we will never
get in the US.
Oh, okay.
They brought it back.
All right.
Here's one for you, Andrew.
God bless America.
Yeah.
Camaro coming back in 2029.
Whoa.
You've got time to save up.
Well, no, the thing is the Camaro already left us.
You know when it used to look like a catfish in like the early 2000s?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it was a brutal sigh of relief when it left.
But it was a transformer.
I mean, that's, that's.
I've never seen a transformer.
Oh, well.
Did you not play with transformer?
Oh, right.
I forget.
I was playing with model World War II airplanes.
Of course.
Just last week.
Yeah.
Well, just today actually.
Of course you were.
Of course you were.
You had transformers as a kid?
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah.
Transformers.
It was a comic book.
It was in the 80s, right?
No, it was a cartoon.
That was back when they were making cartoons to sell stuff.
The best.
Glory days.
The best.
We had Disney Afternoon.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was, that was the time.
Oh wait, that's not.
That's a little early.
Sorry.
No, but that was back when they just made cartoons to sell.
Saturday morning cartoons.
Junctures.
I think I was in fifth grade when the yellow bumblebee Camaro came out.
Okay.
A new one.
Yeah, the new one with Shia LaBeouf.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And what's her name?
What was the, who was the one?
Don't ask me.
Angelina Jolie.
Megan Fox.
Megan Fox.
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Megan Fox.
For the movie, it was a partnership with General Motors.
So you only received General Motors cars in the movies.
Of course.
So you get a Pontiac.
You get a, that was like one of the last Pontiacs.
Because that brand's gone.
Because they're gone.
I almost chose them for this podcast.
The original transformer was a bumblebee.
It was a beetle.
Hence bumblebee was his name.
Well, a beetle and a bumblebee are not the same.
Well, I know, but.
If you paint a yellow on the both of them.
His name was bumblebee, but it was a yellow beetle.
Oh, I see.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
So, and then corporate America and advertising got ahold of it and said, let's make it a
Camaro.
No words.
And then there you go.
These ad people.
Yeah.
Can't trust them.
So anyway, those are some examples.
Are there any others you guys can think of that I missed?
Oldsmobile.
Oh, yeah.
Oldsmobile is on my, on my shortlist for sure.
Really to bring back.
Well, you know, it's kind of like a catty, you know, like you, they're just, they're
the old boats of America.
I always was confused.
Like what's the point of Buick and Oldsmobile?
They're different trim levels.
So was Oldsmobile lower than Buick or higher than Buick?
I believe it was lower.
Interesting.
I just think Oldsmobile had a couple of those cool designs.
They did.
Like the Aurora V8.
Oh, yeah.
Very cool.
Yeah.
That was like NASCAR level.
Yeah.
It's kind of an engine design.
It's not really the actual.
Well, you know, the whole like rounded body design with the light bar in the back.
All right.
So I asked you both to choose a brand that you want to bring back.
I've got a list of questions and categories that we're going to go through.
Can't wait.
And then I'm going to force you to answer because I didn't want you just to have a good
time and pick a brand that you like and talk about it casually.
So do you guys want to share your brands?
You want me to go first?
You should go first.
So I picked Bristol Cars.
Do you guys know what either?
English cars?
No, I'm just, I have a strong case for it.
Okay.
Strong case for it.
What does that even look like?
So it's exclusive, expensive, eccentric, unreliable.
It's just so British.
Hand built, right?
Hand built.
They had a great history.
I'm going to go through some tidbits.
Oh, beautiful.
Yeah.
Oh, they're amazing.
They're amazing.
I love that video.
So, what, did I like beautiful cars?
Yeah.
Well, the Bristol Fighter, I don't know if that was a beautiful car.
Well, we'll get there.
Now, hang on, right?
They did already try to bring it back once, but I'll go into that later.
They had, so they were born out of an aerodynamic aeroplane company.
Like everything in Britain after the war, they're like, what are we going to do?
So they're basically, the cars are tested in wind tunnels, blah,
there
there
there
there
there
there
they're still a place on the high street
dedicated to Bristol cars.
Wow.
So, and they had a famous like eccentric way
of vetting their customers,
which we'll go into later.
They had secret compartments.
They had later on going doors.
So like all the things you want in a car,
they had a V8 engine.
Made by them?
No.
Made by somebody else.
In the beginning, they had BMW six cylinders.
And then they went to Chrysler V8s later.
So you gotta make sure both.
So just very eclectic, very just very English.
The cars look amazing.
And so I think it just,
and they've already tried to bring it back once.
So.
Did they ever, were they sold in America?
No.
No.
What'd you guys choose?
Oh, Andrew?
I chose Tucker.
Yeah, you did.
Preston Tucker's company.
I love, I love Mia Tucker.
Yeah.
And I have a lot of information on them.
Where do you guys want me to start?
Anything under three minutes, I think is, would be our goal.
If you can just give me some sound bites.
Well, okay.
Because I think, imagine we're in an elevator.
Imagine we're in an elevator.
Okay, well, post war America is in a very,
is in a frenzy because they've done so well.
They're excited, but what hasn't happened during the war?
They've done so well.
Okay, we won.
What didn't happen during the war?
Nothing came over here.
New cars.
Oh, that's true.
Americans hadn't gotten a new car
that was all stagnant designs.
So, Tucker has this idea.
He wants to build his own.
Preston Tucker, he was just an executive,
kind of an entrepreneur guy.
So, he's like, I need to beat the big three.
Being, you know, GM, Ford, Chrysler.
He got a huge factory in Michigan
where they built the B29 radial engine.
And it was only a year, in 1947,
when they went through the whole development
and engineering of this car.
And then the SEC shut them down
through like intimidation tactics.
Because they actually took Preston to court in 49.
I think it was right at like the end of the run.
And he was acquitted of all charges.
You know, the SEC was like, oh, he's fraudulent.
He's defrauding the American people, blah, blah, blah.
But what he had actually done
is create an amazing car full of these,
you know, revolutionary safety features,
such as seat belts, safety glass, a padded dashboard.
All of these things threatened the big three's dominance.
So, they made sure to shut them down.
And he actually, he passed away six years
after he was acquitted of all charges.
But his legacy lives on in modern cars
that have the safety features that he introduced.
So, he is who we should blame
for taking the fun away from driving.
I think we should be blaming the big three
for taking away innovation and design from the small guy.
So, you wanted glass to be more dangerous and no seat belt?
You wanted to shatter in your face,
you wanted your charge.
It was fun to like fall out of a car on a turn.
That's true.
Once in a while?
I mean, is that a strong enough case
to bring it back for safety features?
I don't know, but you can prove this later.
We've got time.
We've got time.
I feel like Andrew's got a lot to say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I gotta kinda hone it in here.
It's passion of man this one.
No, no, it's good.
Okay, all right.
All right, last one at least.
What are you bringing back?
I'm bringing back a vehicle, a brand
that I'm very excited about, the Monteverde,
which is a Swiss maker that used American engines
on the Scout, actually chassis,
and used Italian coach maker,
which we'll get into later.
And what's interesting about it is that they were built
between 67 and 82.
Peter Monteverde was the man who brought the brand
to existence and his father, Claudio,
is best known for Lord Lourfeo,
is I believe how you pronounce it, the opera,
that by the way, I didn't know just off the top,
but when you listen to it, you'll know.
Okay.
In any case, just a little side note on that.
They only had 14 models throughout their existence,
and some of them were only prototypes.
So the main vehicle that was produced pretty regularly
was the High Speed, 375, which came in four variations.
And I would say that they might be the first brand
to have designed and put to market
the first high-end luxury SUV.
Oh, okay.
I like this.
Called the Sahara.
Oh, cool name.
Were you able to find a picture of it?
I was.
It's pretty rad looking.
But what's interesting is if you look at the older versions,
they look like a Scout,
just with a completely different front end.
It's just a Scout with four headlights.
Yeah, it's kinda cool, right?
It's kinda cool.
A luxury Scout would be a great time.
In the late 70s, I mean, you'd be, wow.
I mean, I could just start that up myself, I feel like.
I mean, you could.
Yeah, just grab an old one and get to town.
Well, you did, you redid your seats, right?
You can just tell people you put Italian leather in it.
There you go. That would be nice.
That would be nice, yeah.
So that's the brand I'm bringing back.
Amazing.
Do you have, I got a list of questions here,
I'm gonna take you guys through.
But, and then we're gonna fight over who's the best.
I look like Andrew's got a ton of links
in our little document that we share,
so I'm a little worried.
But what I wanna do is kind of explain just quickly,
and I know you did a little bit about why you chose them.
Why you chose this brand.
Well, why'd you choose Bristol?
First of all, it's British.
The cars look amazing.
And I also like the names of all the models.
I know the new one, and that's the Bristol fighter
that I already mentioned though.
Do you have a couple of the better examples?
Let me take you through them.
That's how I pick wine, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that explains a lot.
Yeah, breakfast of champions.
We have the Bristol fighter.
Very cool.
Right, the Bristol Speedster.
Bristol from Kershaw.
Oh, well, oh, well.
Bucking is cool.
The bow fighter, the Blenheim, and the Bullet.
So the Blenheim and the bow fighter
are both World War II fighter aircraft.
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, so obviously they used to make the planes.
So I just like the names.
I just think we need to bring back more car names like that.
Instead of a three series or whatever it is.
I don't care what number of engine leader it makes.
I want a real name.
Yeah, preferably that starts with a B.
Yeah, yeah, you know?
I like a little alliteration.
That would be a very cool.
Yeah, the Bristol Boomerang.
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't sound like a good driving car.
Like it just keeps coming back.
The buck, we already have the buck here.
Oh, the new Sop.
Did you say buck and ear?
Yeah.
I missed it.
It's like Tampa Bay.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Man.
Why'd you bring your, why the Monteverry?
You know, I had a short list and I knew I wanted to,
well, I almost picked Auto Bianchini,
but then I decided it was just,
they're just cute little cars and I just,
it didn't sit right with me.
Why I picked it was because they represent
like peak mid-century industrial discipline
and small batch exclusivity, if you will.
They're basically automotive watches.
You have the Swiss.
I like that, okay.
You have the Swiss, Swiss kind of engineering and,
and I'm losing words.
No, no, this is compelling.
I've lost it immediately.
Yeah, no, you've sold me.
And then you've got the American foundation
of the chassis and the engines
and then the Italian design of the interiors
where they did, you know, with the coachmaker in Torino,
Carozia Fizzore, who also worked for De Tomaso,
Oscar and Fiat.
I almost did De Tomaso to bring it back.
They did bring it back.
Amazing.
They did.
Well, yeah, but it's a $10 million.
Well, yeah.
And then the T.
It's more of a money laundering thing than anything.
The tannery that they used, which is also in Torino,
were also just like the top tannery
that was used in Ferrari, Maserati and.
Like a leather tannery.
That's right, leather tannery.
Thank you.
Okay, leather tannery.
Sorry.
It's in my blood, so when I say tannery,
I just kind of know what I'm talking about.
I'm gonna be wife for that.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, been in the business for a while.
Anyway, that's why.
Okay, all right.
Andrew, why Tucker?
Why Tucker?
I, well, I love a rear engine car.
And I think, you know, if I'm bringing it back,
it's gonna continue the idea.
Okay.
But the Tucker's main tagline when it was new
was the car of tomorrow today.
And I'm just like, you can totally use that today.
I mean, it's still, it's timeless,
but I would take that one step further
and I'd say Detroit tried to bury the future.
We just dug it back up.
And then you unleash, and I think I'd call it
the Model 27 or something like that,
but I've always loved the American,
you know, what's the word?
See, I'm not the only one.
The American uniqueness of Tucker.
You know, it started with one man's idea
and it was all American.
And he took what he could.
I mean, you hear the stories of when they were building it,
like the very first prototype, the front suspension,
just broken half, right before they were gonna roll it out
onto the, you know, display floor
when they were unveiling it.
So they just welded it back up.
You know, it's just like these small American,
I just think it's a great idea.
And if you take the execution and put it in today's time,
you could make the best car on the road
and do exactly what Preston wanted to do in the beginning
and it's beat the big three.
Because I think all three of the American car companies
have just become stagnant.
And don't get me started on technology.
Yeah, okay.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, all right, all right.
I love the Tucker.
That's pretty, pretty compelling, pretty compelling.
So now, let's just say you guys are correct.
We are.
You become a trillionaire and you're like,
I'm bringing it back, it's happening.
Yeah.
So you're gonna have to do,
you're gonna have to give me at least one, maybe two.
What's gonna be a car in your lineup when you launch it,
when it comes out?
What's it like to make it?
Well, I'm gonna call it the Tucker Model 27
because in my mind, this is happening next year.
But what is it?
And it's a sleek four-door fast-backs sedan
with an air, with a,
we're gonna start with an air-cooled flat six
and it's probably gonna end up water-cooled
just like Preston did.
And the beauty of having the engine in the back like that,
I mean, obviously Porsche has been doing it for so long,
but the way Tucker did it is flat floors.
You don't have to worry about a big drive shaft hump
going through the middle of the rear bench.
Just a flat, luxurious floor,
a big open front dashboard area,
and then you can have all your luggage
and everything in the front.
All right.
You can kind of think of it as a four-door 911,
but American made.
Okay.
One car in your lineup.
Are you gonna add any other cars?
I mean, it's going great.
It's going great.
I was thinking the four-door fast-backs sedan,
and then if we're doing well,
you can unveil a two-door based on the same thing
to blow Porsche out of the water.
And we're just gonna call it the Preston.
Okay.
Oh, very nice.
That's the Preston.
So you got a sedan, a sports car, no SUV?
That's what all the big three are doing right now,
and I hate it.
Oh, okay.
So bring back sedans.
So you can have a two-car lineup.
Two-car lineup.
Well, it might grow.
Okay.
It might grow.
The stockholders haven't asked me for a third car yet.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
I gotta say, I think I messed up on this answer
because I didn't know we were ideating a new vehicle.
No, you can bring back whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bring it back.
I'm bringing back, yeah.
I'm essentially bringing it back.
Yeah.
You know, he just, his ego's massive.
He wants to just rename it.
I mean, that's fine by me.
I'm amazing in call of the Andrew.
I was gonna say.
Just doesn't flow too well, you know, the Tucker Andrew.
Yeah, the Tucker Burns.
Tucker Burns, terrible.
Also, man.
What is it, burned down to the ground?
Oh, true, that's not good.
That's not good.
I'm bringing back the high speed 375
while Andrew gets a call.
That's okay.
Because I think they wanted to do the Tucker Burns.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm gonna bring back the.
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Anyway, what do you bring back?
What's in your line of baron?
The high speed 375 because they already had four versions
of this vehicle.
They had.
So they had the S, the L, the C and the four.
The S was a short wheelbase,
which was a two seater coupe.
Only 10 were built with Pietro Frua
and six with Fissore, which is the coach builder.
The long wheelbase, which was the L,
which is a two by 22 and two ground,
a tourer, only 66 were built.
As you can tell, there's a reason why I would say
to bring this back because there were so few built
to begin with.
The C, which was the Cabriolet,
a very rare drop top convertible, only two ever built.
One is an apperevic collection and the other one,
which may have been the one we saw at the Peterson,
I'm unsure, they brought back to the factory,
rebooted it as the Palm Beach prototype,
which there's only one.
Oh, okay.
So that is.
So we got a little beach car.
It's kind of cool.
Okay.
Which is the one we saw, I think it's orange.
And then the four door, which actually was a limousine,
17 and a half feet long limousine, which was.
A limousine, a beach car and a two door coupe.
A limousine, a beach car, a two door coupe,
and don't forget the Cabriolet.
And the Cabriolet.
Oh, that was the beach car.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
That's pretty strong.
That's pretty strong.
I mean, I think it's pretty much like anything for anyone.
The only thing that I'm not bringing back, of course,
is the SUV.
And while I wanted to consider the Sahara and the Safari,
I thought they did look too much like the Scout,
but then again, it's possible that there is a market
for that considering the fact that the new Scout
is going to be electric.
So, I mean, if I have an option,
I might throw that SUV in as well.
Okay, all right.
So for me, it'll be 2027.
Let's say it comes back next year, things go really well.
Yeah, you have a short timeline.
I'm trying to think like what the world needs.
And it's a V10 car.
Yes.
Is that right?
I think it just makes a lot of sense.
So we're going to bring back, I'm going to,
and this is kind of what Bristol tried to do
when they did come back in their revival lineup,
is they're calling it?
I think they're on something.
They're going to bring back a V10 supercar.
Was that a Dodge Viper engine?
I don't know.
It's a great question.
Probably a Volkswagen or something.
Oh yeah, that would make sense.
V10, so that's our halo car.
Okay.
Yeah, we're just going to law it,
because that just makes a lot of sense.
That's kind of something for everybody.
Was that the bullet?
This is the fighter.
Oh, the fighter.
Yeah, we're going to, we'll get to that, that.
You're a bit of a fighter.
Now, we talked about, so we have a V10 halo car,
two door, swoopy, amazing, British,
and very luxurious on the inside.
Nothing like these modern cars that are so like austere
inside, it's going to be amazing.
Then we're going to have the Buccaneer,
and that's going to be like a modern,
kind of modern Range Rover.
Buccaneer, we're going to go exploring,
but it's going to be a little tougher,
and we're going to pile the family in the Buccaneer,
and we're getting out there.
So I'm going to do an SUV.
And you're going to go to the SUV land.
We're going to do an SUV.
No, we're going to probably check on the colonies,
you know, that kind of stuff.
Like check on the estate.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can't do any Fox hunts anymore, but we're going to, you know.
Yeah, no, don't do that.
So we're going to check on the estate.
Okay.
Maybe, you know, we're cruising around the Hamptons
or wherever we are, depending where we are.
All right.
You know, so we're going to have an SUV.
So they'll be in America, the cars.
Oh, we're going to be going huge global.
Okay, great, great.
Yeah, yeah.
Global rollout, as I said.
Yeah, so, and then we are going to have a Speedster.
So we're going to have something small, lightweight,
think boxster, cooler.
Will it compete with like the Miata?
Or is this luxury so it won't be at the same price point?
Yeah, it'll be really expensive.
Okay.
Like I couldn't afford it.
No, no, no, no.
Even as a trillion.
Nobody Italian is driving this.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, no.
You have to prove British citizenry.
It's an idea.
I'm going to go to my launch campaign later.
It would track with the way it's going to be.
Or at least somebody in your family lineage.
Yes, yes.
We're not going to have dealerships.
It's going to be word of mouth.
Yeah, yeah.
You just have to find more.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So that's my lineup.
Okay.
Yeah, cool.
No, I can't believe you guys know SUVs, huh?
I saw an SUV.
I said this is a fari, let's say you're not.
You're not, you're in.
Let's go buy another car.
Okay.
Your business is not at the Tucker Motor Brick.
You're a SUV, are you?
Okay, I get it.
No, no, I love SUVs, but not at my car.
Not at your truck.
I see, I see.
I get it, I get it.
Okay.
All right.
So this is an easy question.
What are you going to have?
I already said it a little bit in mind,
but what's the powertrain?
Are you guys doing?
Let me tell you something.
Yeah.
Well, we talk about powertrains.
This is where my ears break up
because I know all about this.
Yeah, take us through it.
Let me go to my notes.
A 7.2 liter Chrysler Big Block V8.
Sounds efficient.
440 CI.
Okay.
Andrew, what does that mean?
Well, that was the engine they used
in the Winnebago's in the 70s and 80s.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good for power, good for torque.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, it's the big block Chrysler.
Classic motor.
I like to say that big block.
Yeah, big block.
Makes me feel powerful.
Big block in the Winnebago.
Yeah, yeah.
Say that 10 times fast.
The car that powers your Winnebago,
I don't know, is that as glamorous as we thought?
I don't know.
Well, it's got 375, you know, horsepower.
There were some very cool muscle cars powered by the 440.
I just think of the first one that comes to mind.
I do have to say the sad part that I believe
and as we're talking, I am realizing
I don't know this for fact,
but I think that these were,
which doesn't make sense to me,
but now I'm like confused,
were these all originally automatic transmission?
Well, you think with the Chrysler,
the torque of that V8 back then,
the only thing that could handle it is an automatic
because manuals were a little weaker.
Kind of like the Vector.
You know, the Vector originally came out
with a three-speed automatic.
Then I would have to bring these back
and give the people what they need and want,
which is a manual.
I don't think that's good for your brand.
Well, it's good for me.
I don't think, I think,
And as a millionaire, I'm doing it.
No, I think for the Monoverti was about ease and...
It's true, it's true.
I don't think you wanna be in there grinding through gears.
Are you?
But here's the thing, there are people
that are real car enthusiasts.
Okay, I don't know any of those.
That love to drive the car and listen to the engine.
Okay.
And it's not a hassle.
It's just, it's a free flow.
It's what they call the flow state.
Oh, okay.
Well, you know, with Tremax modern technologies
and adapter plates and everything,
you get a T56 option.
And then you get an 8HP option.
I was just gonna say that.
Automatically sale.
That's the ZF-8 speed automatic.
Yes, exactly.
That'd be amazing behind a crisis.
I have that here written down as well.
Okay.
All right.
What are you throwing in yours?
It's gonna be a, I actually,
I looked up the descendant of the company
that made the Tucker engine.
Okay.
Right, so Tucker originally designed his own engine
from scratch.
And it was, it was no good.
It was called the 589.
And it had a hydraulically actuated valves,
which was loud and it didn't make a lot of power.
So before the car was unveiled, they went to,
they looked around, who else makes a flat six
that we can use, right?
And it was a company by the name of Air-Cooled Motors.
And they were making helicopter flat sixes
for the war effort.
Air-Cooled Motors originally started
as the Franklin automobile company.
Oh no.
Favorite Air-Cooled companies.
All roads lead to Franklin.
Every road leads to Franklin.
Every time it's Franklin.
Yeah.
Every time.
So the engine that ended up powering the Tucker
was a Franklin Air-Cooled flat six.
But they converted it to water cooling
by adding custom cooling jackets on the engine.
I love it, I love that.
So I did a little bit of research.
Oh, there's more coming.
And there's a company in Poland
who is the surviving descendant of Air-Cooled Motors.
And I found a timeline on franklincar.org.
Okay, is that your homepage?
Oh yes it is.
So in 1975, the rights and drawings were bought
by the Polish government for use in like twin pipe
or other airplanes.
I think there was like a bidding.
Do you think they just called and said,
hey, you got anything for sale?
Hey, I'd like to buy an old car company.
Like we're, yeah, okay.
Just like this.
I have a feeling the timeline kind of drops off after 1993
because I don't think anybody really cared
about franklins after that.
Oh, you think that was the year?
Well, nobody's updated the timeline six then.
But I'd like to track down the original tooling
for that engine that they made way back when.
And you remake that with billet, you know, billet internals.
Yeah, of course.
Modern casting technology is gonna be amazing.
Plus, you know, you're taking a helicopter engine,
it's much more reliable than a normal automobile engine
would be, you know,
it's built to be at 100% power in the air
versus just on the freeway turn lanes.
I think I would only wanna be in a helicopter on four wheels.
Right, you know, it's like, it gives you the experience
and then, oh, I'm still on the ground.
What are you guys thinking of for production numbers?
Oh, well, definitely more than what they started with.
Yeah. Back in the day.
Yeah, you're gonna go mass produced or you keeping it?
No, no, we're exclusive.
Okay, so what are you thinking?
Well, you know, I actually, as I think about it now,
we're probably gonna be competing with Ferrari
and Lamborghini, probably more Lamborghini,
you know, a more quality vehicle.
And I'm not sure what the numbers are on Lamborghini,
but yeah, somewhere maybe in that range.
What are we thinking, 10,000 a year, 5,000?
That's it?
Globally?
Yeah, I don't think, I think Lamborghini's in there
somewhere. Is that right?
What's your guess, Andrew?
Well, I'm gonna be standing in my Chicago plant,
the original assembly plant, where they,
as I said earlier, built the B29 Superfortress engine.
This is the actual plant that Tucker bought way back when,
and I guess 1947 or whatever.
But 200 cars per day is how many cars are gonna be there.
200 a day is how many you're gonna make?
You're gonna ramp it right up.
You're gonna flood the market.
We're gonna flood the market.
The big three's going down.
Yeah, okay.
And it's my doing.
Okay, okay.
According to the machine,
Yeah.
Lamborghini produces roughly 10 to 11,000 cars a year.
Globally.
Yeah, yeah, it's very little.
Wow.
Yeah, it's only because we live in LA
that we see them all the time.
That's true, that's true.
Well, I'll probably do the same because these were all.
That's a lot of cars.
Well, they were all hand made.
Yeah, I know, you're gonna hand make 10,000, huh?
You know, if the money is right.
I pay, you're the visionary.
How many millionaires and billionaires are there?
There's gonna be a lot.
Well, I don't know, I'll give them all.
Those are all gonna have monogurts.
Those are gonna be my buyers, sure.
All right, all right.
You know.
I'm gonna go for about,
I'm gonna bring us actually back to a quote.
Real quick, real quick four.
How many cars does Lamborghini make per year?
About 10,000 it says.
So prior to being acquired by the Volkswagen Group in 1998,
Lamborghini produced an estimated 6,000 to 7,000 cars
across its 35 year history.
So they make more cars now per year
than they did in the entirety of time
before Volkswagen bought them.
That's wild, yeah.
Sorry, sorry.
But that's what can happen to brands.
God, living in LA, we're just, we're lucky,
but also so spoiled.
I'm gonna say jaded.
Jaded, that's it, jaded.
So the quote from Bristol back in the day
when they tried to bring it back
was wait time for the usual car was about 18 months.
Yeah, yeah, we're not cranking them out,
we don't want to rush it.
Production figures are not released,
but what they said was it's about 150 a year.
And they decided that if we made less than that,
people would think we're going bankrupt.
Nice.
If we made more than that, we'd be selling out.
So 150 is the exact number of cars you should be making.
In case you're curious.
I'm sorry, we should be making?
If you want to be, you know.
I'm at 150 by 2.30 PM.
Yeah.
I'm going, yeah, so.
All right, well, I've got a little something
to share when we get to another question
that'll kind of feed into the answer here.
I do have a little bit,
I know we talked about power plants just for a second.
And you are right, that V10 and my Bristol fighter
was from a Dodge Viper.
Oh, very cool.
Which I don't think you can beat, I mean, amazing.
Yeah.
Back in the, yeah, so.
You never think we can beat you?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
You'll see.
I mean, and we're looking at engines
with five to six liters at least.
And that's how we're going to keep it.
I think it was around eight liters
in the fourth generation Viper.
The newest one, not the one that the fighter used.
Yeah, no, no, no, yeah, but the, yeah,
the V10 is an eight liter.
So I'm just, we'll probably have a minimum
of at least six liters in our engines.
We're never going to go small.
Always just going to be massive and huge.
Torque is powerful.
So, yeah, that's what we're going with.
So small number, giant engines is going to be, yeah.
I forgot to mention that my car will also have
electrically driven front hubs.
So the rear, just the front.
So it's going to be linked together like four wheel drive.
But it's really just going to be a torque vectoring thing.
The main mechanically driven wheels will be the rear.
Can you explain, I obviously know what it is,
but our listeners might not.
What's torque vectoring?
When you say that, you're looking at me though.
No, I would never look at you.
So torque vectoring is like, you know,
you're going around a turn and it can break the inboard wheel.
So the outboard wheel rolls and this one doesn't.
So that gives you more twist in the turn.
I love a twist.
You know what I mean?
I can be totally wrong right now, but that sounds good.
Oh, okay.
You said it with such confidence.
No, no, no, I think that's, gosh, you know,
there's about five people that tell me I'm wrong there.
So we've chosen our brands.
Definitely not buying from you.
Yeah.
We have our lineups.
We have our engines.
Now comes the fun part.
Finally.
We got to launch these things, right?
Oh yeah.
This is where the advertising comes in.
Yeah, I got you.
We got a, what are you guys going to,
how are you going to launch your brands?
I want to hear yours first.
No.
Why?
No.
Okay, Andrew, you go first then.
I'd just like to say torque vectoring
is exactly what I said.
Okay, great.
That's exactly what it is.
I'm glad we got the machine as backup.
And because of that, I didn't hear the question.
Oh, yeah.
So you've got your brand, the Tuckers,
you've got your lineup, powertrain,
everything's coming along,
you're at 200 cars a day killing it.
But you're ready to launch it to the public.
How are you doing it?
Well, I'm actually going to get a dealership network.
A classic style dealership network.
The old school.
The old school way, but the dealership buildings
are going to give you an experience,
unlike any other dealership you've been to.
Old boy style.
Yeah, experience.
All the walls are going to be wood paneled.
You're going to have beautiful chandeliers
and there's going to be a pianist
at every single dealership playing constantly.
And then there's going to be parties
and he's offered to you.
It's going to be all the pre-40s stuff.
You know, some of the earlier kind of just
kind of jazzy piano.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
The nice trick will be, I have this kind of feature
where, you know, as I said,
it has the electric motors in the front.
Sure.
You can drive it without the engine on.
And you can just kind of go front wheel drive mode
and go, you know, in the EV mode, as they say,
and Toyotas and pole stars.
Are you going to have like a stunt?
Like how are we going to get to know this car?
They can't just appear in dealerships.
Well, it does.
Okay, so that's how I'm going to get into the people.
Okay.
But the unveiling of it.
What are you doing at the auto show?
It's going to be a huge red curtain, you know,
and there's going to be a full big van.
But where?
At each auto show.
So we're going to start in Chicago.
Okay.
You know, and then do the whole loop and everything.
Okay.
But there's going to be a big band
and obviously there's going to be a problem with the car
that I have to stall.
And I'm going to be like, you know,
the car's not ready, car's not ready.
So I'm going to be introducing my family and everything.
Hey, meet my kids, my wife, and all that, you know,
exactly.
Okay, okay.
Let's talk about your family.
Yeah.
Oh, we're not going to talk about that.
Okay.
Wait, your current family?
Or this is the family you're going to introduce?
The future family.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know, how big is the family?
Well, you know, they call it the car of tomorrow today.
Okay.
This is the family of tomorrow.
That's right.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Okay.
How big is your family going to be, Andrew?
What do you think?
How many kids do you want, Andrew?
I feel like you're having a pretty bunch of...
How red can my face get right now?
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
How many, how many are you thinking?
Yeah.
You know, two or three kids.
Two or three kids.
I'm going to say you're 33 and a half.
Yeah.
Three and a half.
That's a point five, whatever.
That's great.
Let's say three.
Okay, we'll agree with three.
Three.
What's the break?
I don't know.
You're just going to copy him.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's not weird.
What were you asking?
What's the breakdown?
We're doing three boys.
Oh, you're breaking it.
Yeah.
Because by then you can choose.
Yeah.
Yeah, by then I can choose.
I probably have, I want like the older daughter.
I see.
And then I want to have the son and then the wild card.
Oh.
Yeah.
Just whatever comes out.
Whatever comes out, you know what I mean?
Like they can just kind of like copy and borrow the clothes
of whichever sibling is the same gender as them.
It's perfect.
Preston and his wife, Vera, had how many kids?
You want to guess?
Five.
Four.
Five kids.
Yeah.
Five kids, Brandon.
Yeah, yeah, five children.
I'm going to give you some names real quick
just in case you want to put it away.
Oh, yeah.
We got Shirley.
Great name.
Preston.
Great name.
Preston Jr.
Yeah.
Andrew Jr.
Marilyn.
Great name.
Noble.
And then they ran out and went with John at the end.
Oh, they're really cool.
Call him John.
We can't figure this out.
Yeah, yeah.
So there you go.
No, I say that.
I bring that up specifically because Steve, you've
seen Preston Jr.
I have seen him in his dream.
Not recently, but I did see it.
This is a movie, everyone.
So it came out in 1988 starring Jeff Bridges.
And I've just watched it in preparation for this podcast.
And that's actually a scene in the movie
where the car's on fire behind the curtains.
And they're like, what are we doing?
The whole audience is going wild.
Let us see the car.
And then he's like, hey, meet my wife.
Meet my daughter and kids.
And then it's another 20 minutes of stalling.
So you're going to use your family as decoy
in case something goes wrong.
Just like Preston.
Just like Preston.
But it's going to be a completely own event.
Are you going to take it back to basically when
Preston launched?
You're going to take it back to that era.
It's going to be kind of an homage to that.
So will the dealerships be very close to old folks' homes?
Because that's essentially who's going to roll over.
No, I don't think that's true.
Our market audience is going to be people born in the 90s.
In the 90s?
I love that old stuff.
Is that right?
It's all coming back.
They can't wait to see a penis.
The kids.
Yeah.
Like all the sock pops.
The pop or the iPhone was unveiled.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
The pre-07 kids.
Yeah.
It sounds slot out.
OK.
That's interesting.
Go ahead.
Oh, I'm going to go.
Yeah, Bronco, you're up.
Well, mine are going to be presented at Modernism Week
in Palm Springs.
Ooh, OK.
And I'm going to showcase the full lineup.
Just in the desert somewhere?
Palm Springs specifically, at Modernism Week.
In a building?
Oh, I see what you mean.
It's going to be in town, probably in the center,
maybe near Maryland.
Are you familiar?
There's a very giant sculpture of Marilyn Monroe.
Oh.
I was like, who was that?
Marilyn?
Why is she in the middle of town?
Not your daughter, Marilyn Monroe.
OK, good.
So they'll probably be lined up around there.
Great photo op.
Oh, amazing.
And we're going to have this paired with apparel spritz
and for the baby boomers, of course,
and the new ponies for the younger gen.
I'm going to have a DJ.
A DJ?
OK.
Yeah, there's going to be music from Mind Enterprises.
Are you familiar with them?
It's how disco?
I know, I miss that.
It's not on the playlist.
Well, they're still around, so I'll send it to you.
Oh, is this an older band?
No, they're a current band.
And they love to drink negronis as they play.
So I feel like it's an experiential play.
So we're trying to bring in a lot of different cool things
that the kids are going to be into to really push it to social.
Marilyn doesn't seem like an Italian icon.
No, but Marilyn was an icon of all.
OK.
OK.
Yeah.
All right.
OK.
She's everyone's gal.
OK.
All right.
Is this an every person's car?
No, of course not.
I'm only making so many.
OK.
And they're going to be expensive.
Yeah.
But in the desert, there's a very big car culture
of folks that are driving Rolls Royces,
Bentley's, McLaren's.
The money is there, is what I'm saying.
I feel like you're going back in time.
We got Marilyn and Roe.
I feel like you guys are both going back to OK.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Now you're probably dying to know what I would do.
Not really.
But I'm sure you're going to tell us.
I'm going to do a race.
Very nice.
Oh, race.
Yeah.
Goodwood?
I think we're going to Goodwood.
Very nice.
Either that or probably Goodwood.
Probably Goodwood.
OK.
Can you tell the folks what Goodwood is?
Well, there's two different events.
OK.
There's the hill climb where they go up Lord.
What's his name?
Is it Lord?
I forgot what his name was, but it's his whole property.
Oh.
And they race up this big hill.
In their cars, not by hand.
By hand?
Yeah.
You race uphill by hand?
OK.
OK, all right.
Yeah.
In their cars, yes.
Yeah, OK.
They tried it on their hands early on, and it just didn't catch.
It didn't work.
Cars were a lot worse.
They were like, get a new motor and wheels.
Well, I was going to say all four hands?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
The name of the fella is Charles Gordon Lennox,
the 11th Duke of Richmond.
No.
Is that not the owner?
No.
It's Lord.
Lord March.
Lord March.
OK.
Charles Gordon Lennox, Lord March.
Yes, the Earl of March.
Is it held in March?
No.
Oh, that's too bad.
There's two.
OK.
The uphill race is earlier in the summer,
and then the revival is in September.
Is this the one that everybody goes and they dress and like?
Yes.
So they go and dress and period dress.
Period dress with their little leather gloves.
Leather gloves.
Little hats.
Mechanic suits.
Hats.
Yeah.
They're plaid, buttoned-downs and coats.
You know, the Duke himself, the Lord March,
he's got five kids as well.
Yeah, there you go.
Is one named Marilyn.
There will be no children allowed in my race.
I like this race.
I'm into this.
But a lot of dogs.
Great eats.
Yeah, yeah.
Great.
All makes and models of dogs.
Just great Danes.
Just great Danes.
OK, all right.
OK.
And so we're going to have an all one marquee race,
and it's going to be all the new Bristol's.
And I'm going to get like ex-famous British F1 drivers,
and they're going to race around the tracks as fast as they
can go.
Jackie Stewart.
Yeah.
Is he going to be?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
So that's how we're going to launch the cars.
OK.
So we're going to tell anyone, there's
going to be a bunch of great Danes.
OK.
All the cars.
They're not going to go in the cars, the great Danes.
No, no, no.
Well, there's going to be one in Steve's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure, of course.
Steve is going to be with you in yours.
So that's how I'm going to do it.
I'm going to have a huge race.
OK.
It might not be like 24 hours, I don't think
the cars will make it.
Yeah.
But we would do it for, you know.
So is the purpose to do a race that the potential buyers are,
in fact, going to buy this because they too want to race?
Is that why they're adding it to their collection?
Because I mean, this is a big engine for me
to drive to Whole Foods with.
Yeah, yeah.
OK.
But we have people for that.
Oh, there's going to be a driver as well.
Well, if I'm buying a Bristol, I'm not doing my own grocery
shopping.
Oh, I see.
Well, not only that, there's going to be a company
provided person who comes and fills your car up at your house.
Is that right?
Would you do that?
Maybe.
I don't know if we need to go that extreme.
OK.
But, you know, we will have, you know,
we will have some rules.
We will have some regulations.
Yeah, I wonder if any manufacturer does that.
You just get like, I wonder if you just text somebody
and somebody will fill up your car for you
if you have like a really expensive for us.
We're going to have a anti-celebrity policy.
What?
No celebrities can buy Bristol.
Well, that's fine.
They'll come to me and buy my car then.
Oh, really interesting.
OK.
Wow.
I cannot wait to find out the answer to your next question.
That is a great, yeah.
So thanks for bringing it up.
Yeah.
Right?
So the question is, and we'll get around to me because I just went,
is who's going to be your spokesperson?
It doesn't have to be a person.
It can be a dog.
It can be a human.
It can be.
You said spokesperson?
I know.
OK.
I'm just keeping it open.
Oh, I see what you're doing here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I see what you're doing.
So take me through it.
Who wants to go first?
Well, mine's dreamy George Clooney.
George Clooney?
Yeah.
Very cool.
Yeah.
Because he desperately wants to be Italian.
Well, he desperately wants to be Italian.
He can afford my vehicle.
OK.
He lives on Lake Como.
You can see, and he's a car enthusiast.
That's where you should have watched your car, Lake Como.
Well, in America, I'm launching it there.
In, yeah.
Is Lake Como, that's Italy, not Switzerland?
That's correct.
OK.
And thank you, Andrew, because it is on the higher part
of the boot, if you will.
Northern.
It's the northern part.
So we are close enough to Switzerland.
It's an Alpine Italian.
Alpine, not Alpina.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
And yeah, I just feel like that he speaks both to men
and women and, of course, children.
OK.
Yeah.
He speaks to children a lot.
But he speaks to them in terms of them aspiring
to be like a George.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Look it up.
OK.
OK.
Andrew?
Spokesperson?
I just, I was going back and forth,
because I couldn't really decide between two guys.
And I think my number one choice would be Walton Goggins.
Oh, great.
Oh, good.
Love him.
You know what I mean?
Because I think he kind of embodies
that rough American entrepreneurial independence.
Yeah.
But then he also gets the, you know,
he can kind of portray the history perfectly.
But then he can also bring it into the modern times,
and it's all a fun time.
The guy I'm going to have in the background, though,
is Harrison Ford.
In the background.
In the background.
Ageism.
I don't know if I like this.
No, no, no, it's not ageism.
It's his choice.
He's my friend.
Me and Harrison Ford are buddies,
and we've discussed this already.
Oh, OK.
All right.
But he doesn't want to be the face of the company.
He has no time for that.
He's too old.
He's like, I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of it.
No, he's in speaking.
OK.
But he's just going to be in all the ads,
silently driving the Tucker.
And it's just going to be, you don't need to make a presence.
You don't need to, you know, have that Matthew McConaughey,
you know, I've been driving the Lincoln since before.
Yeah.
OK.
It's just going to be Harrison Ford driving silently.
OK.
And that's the statement.
So what's Walton doing?
He's the spokesperson.
I see.
So he's the face of the company.
He's like, hey, come and buy this car.
The car of tomorrow today.
Today.
You know, but he's really going to be saying,
Detroit tried to bury the future.
We just dug it back up.
I see.
Wow.
So wow.
Two kind of a two for, you know, I got to say,
I don't know that I can see him in a Tucker.
Walton.
Yeah.
Well, because you haven't seen the Tucker yet.
Oh, that's true.
I haven't seen the Tucker yet.
OK.
Touche.
OK.
OK.
All right.
Hasn't been on sale yet.
All right.
I like that you both went with dudes.
Yeah.
Very forward thinking, which is nice.
Yeah.
It's rare to get a male spokesperson
in advertising nowadays.
Especially a white one.
Yes.
Yeah.
George struggling.
But he's tan.
Huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm going to go a little different here,
a little different tack.
I'm going to go with Cara Delving.
And who is that?
You don't know who that is?
No.
Oh, I know who that is.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
OK.
OK.
Very pretty.
Very pretty.
Yes.
But she's a bit angry.
She's got kind of like that.
Yeah.
She's got the eyebrows.
Yeah.
Oh, sure.
She is.
Yeah.
She's a very famous model.
Oh, for Bristol.
For Bristol.
That kind of matches.
Yeah.
She's also a pretty, what was the show that she was in recently?
I'm going to look this up as you can tell.
Oh, OK.
Well, yeah.
So she's going to be our spokesperson.
We're going to get her at the racetrack.
She's going to be driving the cars.
And that's what I'm going with.
Is she British?
Yes.
Oh.
Perfect.
Well, that helps.
Yeah.
And it'll balance out.
Your guys is like sausage party over there.
Well, the other thing is Harrison Ford.
I can't really use his name.
Oh.
Can't have Ford in the ads.
Oh.
Good call.
We're going to legally rename him to Harrison Tucker.
Harrison Tucker.
That would be great.
Wow.
Yeah.
But yeah.
We spent all of our advertising budget paying him to do that.
So.
That's true.
That's true.
OK.
All right.
That would be interesting to change his name, though.
Yeah.
How much he would charge.
They did do that for a Super Bowl campaign.
Really?
They did an ad for Ford because he was like, who else would I
be in an ad for?
Remember that one?
No.
No.
OK.
Ever watched commercials?
I've heard of those.
Yeah.
OK.
That's OK.
It's a dying industry from what I'm told.
Yeah.
All right.
Spokespeople are done.
Will you guys be going racing with your brands?
Absolutely not.
No.
No.
Mine were made for cruising.
Slow, mindful, effortless, focused, flow state.
Torquey.
Yeah.
Flow state.
No racing.
No racing.
No events.
Like what do I do?
What are they going to be famous for?
Well, you're just your fashionable person just in style,
rolling around, going from your mid-century home to your lunch.
Sound old.
Am I dying?
No.
You're just you've expended your energy in life,
and now you're relaxing.
Once again, in a flow state.
OK.
The light is gone.
That would be a good ad.
You just have the car, and then it just ends with a flow state.
It sounds sad.
Yeah.
It's not.
You should learn how to relax.
Is that my problem?
Is that my problem?
Too jumpy.
Too jumpy.
You just need to light a little sage, cleanse your space.
OK.
Tell the demons to go away.
I don't think our brands are going to be at the same amount of show.
No, no, they're not.
Put a crystal on the dash and just let her ride.
Also, OK, the modern Monteverde, would you put a crystal in the dash
for healing powers?
That's a great question.
And I think cars are missing out on that.
I'm going to hold that for the next week,
because there is a tie in there.
So yeah, you're on the right path for Andrew.
OK.
Any racing for Tucker?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You racing the Tucker?
We're racing the Tucker.
We're going to NASCAR?
Well, we're not doing NASCAR.
No.
Because I don't want to build a stock car,
because it's like, what am I doing with a front engine V8?
Yeah.
That's not what I do.
OK.
So it's going to be a 2,027 hour long endurance run
at the Indianapolis 500.
Indy 5.
Wait.
To signify the car is unveiling.
One hour?
No, 2,027 hours straight uninterrupted drive.
How many days is that?
A long time.
I don't know if that's safe.
How many?
I mean.
There's just going to be we're going to run out the track
for like, what is it, 16 years?
So it's going to be a relay.
OK, let me change this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let me change.
It's going to be 2,027 hours straight, not days.
2,027 because they're being released in 2020.
So how many days long is 2,027?
84 days?
Yeah, I can do that.
Absolutely.
You're going to do an 84 day race?
Well, it's more of an endurance.
By the way, let's not forget the man.
He's having five children.
So he's got endurance.
Well, no, no, no, it's not going to be one driver.
It's not going to be one driver.
Yeah, it's going to be a team of drivers.
I think people will watch.
Well, no, they'll tune in and be like, oh, man,
he hasn't broken it yet.
OK.
Yeah.
All right.
And then the other place I want to go, Pikes Peak.
You know, you got to go to Pikes Peak.
Although with modern fuel injection and everything,
what are you really testing out?
You know, you got computers to readjust,
make sure and stuff like that.
84 day race.
Wow.
Yeah.
Is it an oval, you think?
Oh, yeah.
Just.
Don't think it dizzy.
Oh.
No, different drivers.
84 days.
Different drivers, yeah.
Yeah, but not a different driver every day.
You're not going to have 84 drivers.
Yeah, you're going to have at least.
At least.
At least, because you got to think it's going to be 24 hours.
How many cars are we racing here?
Just one.
Just one.
It's a testament to the car's durability,
American reliability.
What a race.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, you, by the way, I just want to remind you.
Yeah.
That you told us that the car was on fire behind the.
Back in the day, though.
That was not my car.
Not in your interview.
In the end, you were like, all right.
That is not in the burns era.
There's no floppers in the burns era.
That's right.
OK, OK.
I feel like you're ready for this next.
Oh, I'm going racing.
Yeah, well, obviously.
We know that.
For sure.
Yeah, yeah.
You've been saying that since day one.
Bristles are getting.
It's getting unveiled with a race.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're out there.
Right.
We're killing it.
Would you do Le Mans?
For sure.
I would do Le Mans as well.
Probably Petit Le Mans.
No, I'd do full one.
Oh, yeah.
Full one.
OK.
They'd just be the prototypes, and then it'd be me and.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's going 60 miles an hour.
OK.
You want to?
So next question.
You ready for the interview?
I'm ready.
I've been ready.
OK.
Who you're going to sponsor?
Like, what are the partnerships?
It's kind of like a brand's partner sponsor.
Yeah, no, I know how this works.
OK.
OK, not going to.
You know, I know a little bit about advertising.
OK.
I mean, not that much.
I hope so.
I hope so.
Just a tiny bit.
At least someone does.
OK.
So because I've chosen George Clooney for a reason
beyond the fact that he is who he is.
Yeah.
He's also the global ambassador for Omega watches.
He is.
A lot of people are.
Which are OK.
Yeah.
Relax.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
Which are, which is a Swiss brand, as you know.
And you asked me about how many units were going to be made.
We decided somewhere between 10,000 to 20,000 globally.
Well, you decided.
Well, I decided that you gave me the number.
Yeah.
About dependent about 1,000 to 2,000 of them
will have the Omega branding inside.
So there'll be a clock that is.
This feels like the car we saw in the trailer.
Is this like a Gucci car thing?
No, not at all.
Oh, OK.
Not at all.
Just a just a clock.
Just the clock itself will be an Omega clock.
OK.
There will be crystal.
Very nice.
In healing crystals.
Healing crystals.
OK.
And the Omega Speedmaster was made for design originally
for race car drivers, as you know, in the 50s.
So that's going to be one of the brands.
Then the other brand is going to be going back to the Tannery's.
It's going to be a brand founded in 1912 in Torino
called Pottrona Frau.
They are the automotive upholstery makers
that work with legendary houses, Ferrari, Maserati,
and Singer.
And everything is handcrafted bespoke leather.
This ties in for me, it's personal,
because my whole family on my father's side
were in the leather business since the 20s.
My father passed away a few years ago.
But when he came here, that's what he continued to do.
So those would be my two brands that I
would be cross pollinating with.
OK.
So the two brands I chose, well, that I'll be working with,
it's going to be Franklin SPZOO from Poland,
the company I was talking about.
It rolls off the tongue.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
ZOZO.
Yeah.
The other company that I'm going to be partnering with
is Apple.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
OK.
For the tech.
For the tech.
Yeah, because I want to, one of the things that Franklin,
or I'm sorry, not Franklin, Tucker did,
was a very simple dashboard, straightforward,
horizontally mounted radio, very cool.
So I'm going to just have Apple go through that
and kind of give me a very simplistic, modern interior
that harkens back to the original Tucker design.
Apple's going to do the interior.
Hmm.
Yes.
I know.
Can I connect it to my watch and my phone,
and will there be an app involved as well?
Absolutely.
Have we seen the Ferrari Luce or Luce,
or whatever it's called, the interior?
You know what the difference is?
Please tell me there's going to be a difference.
Andrew Burns was on the development team of the Luce.
OK.
There it is.
There's going to be a lot more wood.
Yeah, there really is a lot of wood.
Yeah, it's going to be all wood.
I mean, I mean, like heads of animals.
It's just kind of sad that marble is such a bad material
for automotive interiors.
It is.
It is.
It is too bad.
It's not.
It really is a shame.
A marble dash?
Oh.
Not very safe.
No, it's a little heavy as well.
OK.
Not good for heat.
You've got a very kind of Jeremy Clarkson approach
to interior design in your cars.
I just, it's got to be simple.
And there's got to be some wood.
OK.
That's all I want.
The man loves wood.
Yeah, I love wood.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just like it's the best.
OK.
Light weight, durable.
It's from the earth.
It's, yeah, renewable.
Is it not durable?
Wood.
Well, yeah.
Wood?
Wood.
It's with laminate technologies and stuff.
OK.
OK.
Not laminate, but, yeah, you know.
Sure.
What'd you say?
I missed it.
I missed it too.
I'm not too sure.
All right.
Anyway, wood.
We're all.
I love a wood interior.
We all love wood here.
All right.
So for me, we're going to take the Bristols.
We're going to partner with Pirelli.
Obvious.
This is so obvious.
There's a reason for it.
Yeah.
Because Kate, Pirelli is famous for their calendars.
Their calendars.
Have you ever seen the Pirelli calendar?
No.
They've been making them for years.
So we're going to.
What kind of a calendar is it?
Are they really just tires, or is this
like of the old pinup period?
I feel like pinup cheapens it.
Cheapens it.
It's more like art, I feel like.
Yeah.
I would say that the old pinup was kind of artsy.
If you get a chance, look up.
If you can find a Pirelli calendar, they're very, very
hard to find.
OK.
But they still make them new.
I think so.
I think so.
But you're not referencing new.
You're referencing a certain period of these, or?
No, we'll do new ones.
We'll do new ones.
No, no, no.
When you say that you're going to do the calendar.
Yeah.
What period of the calendars do you
think of that you would want to kind of like keep
the same story?
I feel like Bristol's always looking forward.
So it'll be pretty, pretty modern.
Pretty modern.
OK.
All right.
But we'll have some of our classic cars in there, of course.
Yeah.
So Pirelli is going to be our partnership.
We're going to be into that because we like that.
Because you want to have a tactical thing
to send to the people.
Mm-hmm.
OK.
And then we're going to partner with Zagato.
Do you know who that is?
What is that?
A cigar?
No.
It is another Italian design firm.
Yeah.
And they worked with Bristol.
They worked with Bristol before, and they made very,
they do a lot of S and Martins.
They make some very, very cool one-offs.
So we're going to ship it over to them.
OK.
They're a coach.
Essentially, yeah.
Yeah.
Coach builder.
OK.
They're going to make some really, really cool one-off ones
that come with the calendar.
Oh.
So excuse me.
It's the reverse.
You get the calendar.
If you buy the calendar, then you get the car.
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.
So it's just advertising, essentially.
You're going to get Bristol in the Pirelli calendar,
and then everybody who buys the Pirelli calendar
sees Bristol.
Yeah, brand partnerships.
That's what we're doing.
I see.
I feel like we thought about clothing.
We thought about watches.
It's like, let's go big.
That's good.
Well, you can't do watches.
That's what I'm doing.
No, yeah.
Well, I'll tell you this.
I'm going to have Michelin tires on the Tucker.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
French?
They're just probably, they're going to be made in America.
They're going to be Michelin.
They're going to be Michelin.
OK.
Can't wait.
Yeah.
Just like Michaelins or something, like change it slightly.
I think they make some pilot sport forewresses in America.
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong, yeah.
There are some American made Michelin tires.
OK.
All right.
I will say the one partnership that Bristol did have back
in the day was the ACE.
Guys remember that car?
Kind of.
I remember the AC ACE, which is what the Cobra was made out of.
But was there a Bristol ACE?
So it was a Bristol ACE kind of partnership.
Oh, very cool.
So it was the engine and then ACE,
which turned into the Cobra.
So I don't want a bunch of people riding in here
with Bristol fans.
And they're like, oh my gosh, you didn't mention the Cobra
or the ACE or the B
!
This kind of looks like a little triumph, doesn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it looks like a little Cobra.
OK, sure.
A little more bubbly, though.
There were a bunch of interesting partnerships
with Bristol back in the day.
But those are the ones we're going with now.
OK, cool.
Yeah.
OK.
OK.
I feel like I'm still winning, but keep going.
Maybe.
One last final question, and then we'll wrap it up
before the July.
Every car when it becomes famous, all the best ones,
are in movies.
Yeah.
What movie is your car going to be in?
Andrew has to do this first.
Don't let me go first.
Yeah, you have to.
Why?
I got to think of it on the spot here.
Wow.
I'm thinking about that on the spot.
OK, why don't you?
You want me to close it?
You want me to go?
Or you want to go?
You go first.
You want me to go?
OK.
Are you familiar with the director Paolo Sorrentino?
No, but Phil is in.
Well, he's an Italian director.
He's known for an independent film that won Best Oscar
for Foreign Film in 2014, called La Grande Bellezia.
And also, two television shows, The Young Pope, which
had Jude Law, John Nalchovich.
Yeah, I remember that one.
Orlando, yes.
And then The New Pope, which was kind of the version,
too, if you will, of The Young Pope.
If you saw The Young Pope, did you watch it?
No, but I knew it.
Did you watch it?
You should, because it's incredible.
He is known for just the way he frames a shot.
It's not just the lighting and the locations.
It's the architecture.
It's the way that he blocks the frame with humans as well.
Symmetry is hyper stylized and just has
an incredible artistic eye.
So because the cars are so beautiful and they themselves
are a piece of art on wheels, as you know,
that's kind of my thing.
OK.
It makes sense to me.
Once again, Italian, George Clooney, the watches,
it just kind of all comes together for me.
I believe that the Palo Sorrentino would be the director
to create a beautiful picture there.
OK.
Are you want to finish?
You want to be the last person?
Are you want to just finish?
I have no idea what movie my car would be in,
but I can think of a lot of musical numbers that I've put in.
You know what I mean?
I put it in a bunch of them.
We're going on Broadway.
Yes.
He does have the curtain.
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
This is probably a lot of Broadway advertising.
I just won this.
OK.
Take us through the Broadway.
OK.
Your sugar demo isn't what I said before, but you know what?
You know what I actually think I'd do?
If it'd be in a movie.
No, no, Broadway.
No, don't let us.
It's going to be a Broadway musical recreation.
Yeah.
The Jeff Bridges 1988 Tucker movie.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's going to be a Broadway recreation.
Is Hugh Jackman being it?
No.
He's Australian.
Yeah, but.
OK.
OK.
All American cast.
That's right.
OK.
OK.
This is an all American company, all American cast.
I like that as a way to launch your car with a Broadway.
It'd be really funny if there was a sear or a Waldo Dawgons weren't American.
Are those both Americans?
They're American.
OK.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah.
OK.
You know, I cannot believe I've gotten this long.
Oh.
I've gotten this far in the podcast without mentioning.
Mentoring Franklin.
You know, the most significant feature of all Tucker cars.
Yeah.
Can we guess?
The Cyclops headlight.
Cyclops, sure.
OK.
Yeah.
So Tucker, and I can't believe I haven't mentioned this yet,
they introduced the movable headlight.
So it was connected to the steering rack.
OK.
And it would turn as you turn the wheel.
And this is something we take for granted in modern cars.
Like I think, you know, my Lexus has it.
A lot of modern cars have it today.
But it's headlights that swivel with the wheel.
So you can see ahead of the road where you're going.
And Tucker was the first guy to do that.
And we're going to be the last people to do it as well.
We're going to make it illegal for everybody else to have.
Oh, very.
Very.
Mark Patton.
And they're going to be like, we've already been doing it.
And I'll be like.
Will it still be in the center?
It'll be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
So that'll be the unique street.
Yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
Because you know, modern cars, they're on the sides.
Are you sure you don't want to make a Cyclops movie?
And then the car is in that film?
Don't really.
No.
Because the Cyclops would be the villain in that case.
True.
Because I think the Cyclops eat.
Yeah.
And that was not for questions today.
I don't like humanizing Cyclops.
They're ugly.
Real quick, though, and then we got to wrap it up.
Yeah.
Is your car a good guy car or a bad guy car?
Ooh.
Mine's a bad guy, but he's the kind of car you just.
Not someone you're into.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
Slow down.
Yeah.
Jeez.
I'm just thinking of George Clooney behind the wheel right now.
God, I think you just you don't know until the end.
And at the end, what happens?
OK.
We're talking the company.
It's a good guy car.
OK.
Andrew, good guy car.
Good guy car.
You know, it's the little guy going against the big man.
You know, the little man against the corporate reason.
That's the hero.
I think mine's a bad guy car.
Of course it's a bad guy.
What do you mean, of course?
Because like, I'm sorry, you did not answer the movie.
It will be it.
OK.
I've already got that.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I skipped over it.
Sorry.
I apologize.
We were going to do.
We got on Cyclops.
Cyclops, I know.
And it threw me off.
It threw me off.
Yeah.
We're only seeing one way.
Yeah.
We're making a sequel to the F1 movie, which we know is coming out.
OK.
Yeah, which you both watched.
I know.
Brad Pitt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's coming out.
Or they're going to make it.
Oh, no.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
There's a sequel.
OK.
I didn't see the first one.
So do they call it F2?
Yeah.
What?
F2?
What?
Yeah, F2.
I can't but I can't get behind F1.
No?
No, it's just a boring.
Oh my god, thank you.
Yeah.
Oh, see Andrew.
I like NASA.
OK, this is over.
Anyway.
OK.
What?
Do you watch any motor sports racing?
I watch soccer.
Is that not?
Football.
Football?
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
OK.
All right, no.
Shout out World Cup.
You watch on the World Cup?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
England won today.
Congratulations.
There's a roof.
Yeah, very cool.
Yeah.
Who would they be?
I can't believe I'm just blanking.
Wow.
The Congo.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, Republic of Congo.
OK.
All right.
Go on then.
So they're remaking the movie.
Yeah.
If you ever saw the original Le Mans with Steve's Queen,
Stephen Queen, do you remember the intro?
Barely.
No.
With the 9-11?
With the 9-11?
1970, 9-11-S.
There you go.
Yeah.
Iconic.
Yeah.
So in the remake or in the sequel,
Brad Pitt in a Bristol, in the beginning,
that's how the movie begins.
You see him driving through to Silverstone,
and then the movie starts.
It's phenomenal.
That's what we're doing.
Where's Kara?
Where's Kara?
She's going to be the new.
The love interest.
No, the new racer.
She's going to be the star.
He's going to be coaching her.
Oh, I see.
I see.
It's like a passing of the torch, if you will.
Well, and it'd be like you'd have a saw.
She's going to be an F1 champion.
I see.
You know the shot of the Bristol with Brad driving it down
the street, and then it would just morph into Kara driving.
The Bristol race car, whatever it is.
A dissolve.
You know?
No.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Not bad.
No.
All right.
It's not Michael Jackson.
Who's going to direct it?
Do you know?
What's that?
Probably the same guy.
Do the first one.
OK.
Whoever that was.
He was the one that did the Ford versus Ferrari.
Same guy.
Yeah.
So OK.
We got to get out of here.
Wait.
What was your last question that you didn't answer?
Oh, you didn't.
You did.
Fine.
I did.
Slow down over there.
Sorry.
I get real excited.
Since the George Clooney thing, you've been a little.
I popped this ollie pop, and I got crazy.
OK.
Final question.
Fourth of July is coming up.
Whose car is best in the parade?
Now think about it.
I mean, think about it.
I don't have to think about it.
Yeah, I don't think we do.
Because it's all American.
Maybe you have a convertible, though.
No.
No.
Can I eat a convertible parade?
No.
You can.
When you have 51 of them in the parade.
Oh.
Kind of, you know.
OK.
OK.
In fact, that's actually the amount of original Tuckers
that were made.
They only made 51 of them.
Wow.
Have you ever seen one in real life?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
You went to the museum for God's sake.
Yeah.
The one place I really want to go that I haven't been
is Hershey, Pennsylvania.
And that's the greatest collection of Tuckers.
OK.
Hershey, Pennsylvania.
Amazing.
Do you get a free bar of chocolate when you go?
I think there's like an Eminem's museum nearby or something
if that's your bag.
You know, I just.
It is my bag.
There you go.
Yeah, yeah.
That and George Clooney.
Yeah.
A chocolate George Clooney.
Oh, man.
That's exciting.
Hello.
Yeah.
OK.
So Tucker probably the best.
So he's the winner.
Fourth of July, Puppet winner.
I feel like I wasn't able to just get the people excited enough
about this car on this podcast.
Yeah.
I might like.
I was surprised you didn't have Bruce Springsteen
like at your reveal.
You know, the thing is Bruce Springsteen is more of like a 57
Corvette sort of guy.
Oh.
You know what I mean?
He's not written.
Bruce Springsteen isn't a man of the future.
That he's a man of right now.
You know what I mean?
And I need a man of the future.
OK.
Like a kid like Harrison Ford.
Never ever bring a kid rock around me.
Oh, OK.
Sorry.
All right, we'll go into that later.
OK, let's get out of here.
OK, good job, everyone.
Guys, but do we want to know if the people are going to choose
which one of our makes they would like to see come back?
Yeah, please let us know what's best.
Yeah, that is a note.
My last thing I'm going to say, everybody right now is building
the same heavy SUVs.
Don't derail us.
Yeah, we really ended this.
I just got to say the 30 minutes.
We can't do that.
The model 27 Tucker.
Yeah, is the future.
OK, the car of tomorrow today.
Oh, we're still recording.
We are still recording.
And by the way, Andrew is still single.
If there's any women out there looking to have five children.
He's already got the names picked out.
Yeah, which is important.
John Maryland.
Hey, John was my grandpa's name.
All right, we're going to end the podcast there.
All right, thanks, everybody.
All right, see you guys next time.
See you next week.
Bye.
About this episode
Hosts Steve, Andrew, and Veronica debate which defunct automotive brands deserve a modern resurrection. Inspired by the shifting landscape of brands like Polestar and Scout, the trio pitches their ultimate revival candidates. Steve champions the eccentric, hand-built British luxury of Bristol Cars, while Andrew makes a passionate case for the post-war innovation of Preston Tucker's short-lived Tucker Corporation. Along the way, they reminisce about quirky favorites like Saturn, Scion, and DeLorean, exploring what made these dead brands so memorable and how they could fit into today's market.
Bristol Cars
directional headlights
Monteverdi
Polestar
Preston Tucker
range extender
Saturn
Scout Motors
torque vectoring
Bristol Fighter
Buick Model 27
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Corvette
Chrysler PT Cruiser
Delorean DMC-12
Dodge Viper
Ferrari Luce
Ford Bronco
GMC Safari
Honda Prelude
Land Rover Range Rover
Lucid Air
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
Monteverdi High Speed 375S
Porsche 911
Porsche Boxster
Renault Alpine A610
Scion xB
Original notes
This week we are all trillionaires and have decided to choose what car brands we should bring back to the world. Veronica opens up about her George Clooney fandom, Steve goes full colonial and Andrew brings back an American Icon. It’s an international battle this week as we head into the Fourth of July. Follow us on Instagram @bestinclasspodcast and let us know which brand you want to bring back!
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