The yellow lines usually separate your lane from oncoming traffic. If you cross them while driving too fast or too aggressively, you could end up in a dangerous situation.
Your car can only handle so much grip and speed. If you don’t know what you can safely do—especially on a road you’ve never driven—you can get in trouble quickly.
If you drive a new road the same way you drive your usual one, you might misjudge the turns. Without knowing what’s coming, it’s easier to go too fast or turn too sharply.
Maintenance is the regular upkeep that keeps a car healthy. If you keep up with it, the car is less likely to break when you drive it hard or in tough conditions.
Driving “real hard” means you’re asking a lot from the car—going faster and braking/accelerating more. If the car isn’t in good shape, that extra stress can cause problems sooner.
“Twisties” are roads with lots of turns. On roads like that, the tires and brakes have to work harder, so a well-maintained car feels safer and more predictable.
Topic
spectrum color cars
They’re mentioning a set of cars with a “spectrum color” look that people want. The point is that when these cars show up for sale, they get snapped up fast.
This segment focuses on how certain used cars are priced in the mid-$20k to low-$20k range, and how that pricing changes as models age. It’s a practical discussion of what buyers can expect to pay for older mainstream cars.
Concept
parts obsolescence / model-year turnover
They’re talking about what happens when a car gets old: eventually, fewer parts are made available or supported. That can make repairs harder and more expensive for owners.
They’re listing the typical parts that take hits in a front-end crash: the fender, hood, bumper cover, and grille. Even if the car looks “mostly fine,” replacing these pieces can get pricey after paint and labor.
When they say the car “got total,” they mean the insurance company decided it’s not worth repairing. Sometimes the damage is in one area, but the parts and body-shop work cost so much that it still gets written off.
They’re talking about fixing the car with used parts to save money. But insurance and body shops may not allow that, so they may have to use more expensive parts instead.
They’re explaining that insurance companies control how the car gets repaired. That means the body shop can’t always use the cheapest or easiest parts, even if that would fix the car.
Company
Kappa certified
They mention “Kappa certified” like it’s a place where you can get approved parts. But for this special Rabbit version, those parts might not be available there, so you may have to go to the dealership.
The Lancia Kappa is an older sedan that was sold in Europe. The podcast is mainly talking about how some parts are hard to find, and you may need special suppliers to keep the car running. That’s important for anyone trying to maintain an older, less common model.
They’re saying if the right parts aren’t available through regular parts sellers, you end up buying from the dealership. Dealership parts usually cost more, which can make insurance repair bills jump.
“Totaled” means the car is considered too expensive to repair after damage. Instead of fixing it, the insurance company usually sells it for parts or salvage unless they buy it back.
“Bought back” usually refers to the insurer purchasing the totaled vehicle from the owner (for a salvage value) and then handling it through salvage resale or auction. This can affect whether the car can be auctioned in the normal way.
“Track ready” means the car is set up to drive hard on a racetrack. It’s more than just driving fast—it’s making sure the brakes, tires, and handling are prepared for repeated hard use.
Ferrari is a famous Italian car brand that makes very expensive, high-performance sports cars. If a shop works on Ferraris for track use, it usually means they’re used to dealing with expensive cars and detailed performance prep.
Wheels are the rims that tires mount to, and they strongly affect fitment and serviceability. When the hosts talk about giving someone “wheels” and asking them to remove tires, they’re discussing a common real-world maintenance task that can be harder with older tires or tight bead seating.
“Take the tires off” means removing the tire from the wheel. If the tires are old, they can stick to the rim, so the shop may need extra effort to break the bead and remove them without ruining anything.
“Mounted up” usually means the tires get put onto the rims at a tire shop. They may also balance the tires so the car doesn’t shake at speed.
Topic
Dust Off
They’re talking about a car event called “Dust Off.” The big thing they’re warning about is the weather—rain is common—so it can change what the day feels like.
The hosts describe a paid track-lap experience, which is common at car events where attendees can drive their cars on a circuit for a set number of laps. This is different from a static show because it adds real driving dynamics and safety procedures.
Brand
VW
“VW” refers to Volkswagen, and the hosts are pointing out that Volkswagen-related events are happening in the region. In this segment, VW is tied to specific show names and locations, suggesting a brand-focused gathering.
“Buggerama” is described as a Beetle-focused show, but explicitly framed as a Volkswagen event. That matters because it signals the car community and likely the types of vehicles and parts you’ll see (air-cooled Beetles, VW styling, and related culture).
The hosts mention a “beetle show,” which refers to Volkswagen’s Beetle model as the main attraction. Beetle events often draw owners with a wide range of Beetle generations and modifications, so it’s a useful clue about what kind of cars and culture will be present.
“Volksfest” is a Volkswagen-themed car event. They’re giving the timing—April 25—so it’s basically a heads-up for what’s happening this weekend.
Concept
mid-Atlantic cars
They’re talking about how the cars you see can vary by region. In the Mid-Atlantic area, you tend to spot certain enthusiast cars more often than in other parts of the country.
They’re talking about custom “Rabbit” cars that have been turned into pickup trucks. It’s not a normal factory model—more like a one-off or small-batch enthusiast conversion.
Topic
Mark two May days
They’re mentioning a car event that’s probably focused on a specific Volkswagen generation. These kinds of events usually bring out owners of that model and similar cars.
Topic
dubs in the lake
This sounds like a Volkswagen car meet/event. They’re saying it lines up with another VW event the same weekend.
Topic
built spring
They’re talking about another car event called “Built Spring.” It’s coming up soon, and they’re giving it a shout-out.
They’re planning a car meet for older cars—basically the pre-2000 crowd. It’s less about a single model and more about getting enthusiasts together in the same place and doing the meet as a group.
Term
mark one meat
They’re talking about a meet organized around a “Mark I” generation. Think of it like grouping cars by their version/generation, so people with similar cars show up together.
Term
mark two meat
This sounds like another group within the meet—“Mark II,” meaning the second version/generation of a car. It helps people find others with similar cars.
Term
mark three meat
They’re also grouping cars by a “Mark III” version. It’s basically a way to organize the meet so people with the same generation show up together.
Term
mark four meat
This is the “Mark IV” part of the meet—another generation grouping. It’s a community-organizing label more than a specific car name in this snippet.
A scissor lift is a platform that raises the car or parts up so you can work underneath. It reduces awkward lifting and makes big jobs like pulling an engine much more manageable.
A subframe is like a strong mounting platform under the car. Parts like suspension and sometimes the engine/drivetrain attach to it, so taking it out helps you do bigger repairs.
Powder coating is a protective paint-like finish that’s baked on. It helps parts resist rust and wear, especially if the car sees moisture or road salt.
Term
O2O
“O2O” sounds like a specific setup the car uses for traction/acceleration. The host is basically saying that setup can work well, but you might need a different version or upgrades depending on how you drive and what you’re trying to do.
Drag racing is hard on a car because you’re launching hard and making a lot of heat. If something can handle hundreds of runs without problems, that’s a good sign it’s built for real use, not just one-off trips.
Concept
stock form vs upgraded setup
“Stock form” means the car is basically as it came from the factory. The host is saying that for harder driving, you may need upgrades because the factory setup might not handle it as well.
A “diff” is what sends power to the wheels and helps the car handle traction. Upgrading it can make launches and acceleration more consistent, especially when the tires would otherwise spin.
Part
bolt kit
A “bolt kit” is an add-on set of parts you install without major fabrication—usually it bolts on. The host is implying it helps the car handle more aggressive driving.
Hard shifting means changing gears in a rough, aggressive way. Doing it a lot can make the transmission wear out faster. It’s basically the difference between smooth driving and beating on the drivetrain.
Swap parts means replacing the original parts with other parts from another car or aftermarket. Sometimes it’s done to improve something, but it can also create new problems. The speaker prefers not to rely on complicated swaps.
Off-the-shelf parts are regular parts you can just buy, not custom-made. That usually makes repairs faster and cheaper. The speaker likes this because it’s easier to keep the car running.
“Grenade it” is slang for when something fails in a big, sudden way. The speaker is basically saying that if the transmission blows up, it’s not the end of the world because you can replace it. They’re emphasizing how easy it is to fix if things go wrong.
Term
O2A, O2J swaps
An “O2A, O2J swap” is a community term for changing which transmission/gearbox version you use. People do it because it’s a known, popular upgrade path. The hosts are saying it’s become the default choice for many owners.
“Building it” means fixing what broke instead of replacing it with something else. The speaker thinks people jump to “throw it out” too quickly. Rebuilding can be a smarter option if you can get the right parts and do the work.
Company
Peliquin
The speaker mentions “Peliquin” as someone tied to parts or rebuilding help, and says they’re no longer around. That matters because it can make it harder to get the same parts or services later. It’s a reminder that support networks for niche builds can disappear.
They’re saying the parts for that setup are becoming harder to find. When that happens, it usually costs more and takes longer to keep the car running.
They’re using horsepower as a way to say how much power the car can handle. Their point is that if you’re near 200 hp, the simpler setup can still work well.
They mean building the car in a classic, simple way instead of chasing the newest or most extreme swap. The idea is to keep it easy to maintain and easy to fix.
Term
CAE style shifter
A “CAE style shifter” is an aftermarket gear shifter design. People usually pick it because it feels better than stock and looks more performance-oriented inside the car.
The Dodge Charger is a car built for performance, with powerful engine options. In the podcast, they’re talking about adding a supercharger type system to make more power, and how it’s set up for cooling. That’s the kind of change that can significantly affect how fast the car can go.
“Non-intercooled” means the car doesn’t use an intercooler to cool the boosted air. Cooler air usually helps the engine make more consistent power and reduces the chance of knock.
“Heat soak” is when parts get really hot and stay hot. If the car isn’t being driven hard for long periods, the heat doesn’t build up as much, so the engine may not need extra cooling.
“Not tracking” means you’re not doing long, repeated hard runs like on a race track. If you’re mostly driving normally, the car may not get hot enough for intercooling to be critical.
Concept
keep it simple
“Keep it simple” here is a build philosophy: minimizing complex plumbing and visible hardware to maintain a clean, serviceable engine bay. In practice, it often means choosing compact cooling/intercooling layouts and reducing the number of hoses, lines, and fittings. That can make maintenance easier and help the car look more intentional at shows.
The Lucid Air is an electric car, meaning it runs on a battery instead of gasoline. The podcast is discussing a way to move heat using a system that uses air and water. Keeping the battery and electronics at the right temperature helps the car work well.
This is a way to cool the air going into the engine using a liquid cooling loop. Instead of relying only on air cooling, the system uses water/glycol to move heat away. People like it because it can be easier to package neatly in the engine bay.
On turbo cars, the engine uses a turbo to push in more air. The intercooled pipes are the tubes that move that pressurized air through the intercooler and back to the engine. If there are lots of them, the engine bay can look cluttered.
Term
super root beer color
“Super root beer color” is a custom paint/color choice described by the speaker, likely referencing a specific brown/tan metallic tone. While not a technical performance term, color consistency across wheels and engine components is part of the build’s visual theme. It’s also a reminder that show-car aesthetics often drive modification choices as much as function.
Powder coating is a way to coat metal parts with a tough, long-lasting finish. The part gets covered in powder and then baked so it hardens. People use it on car parts because it looks good and resists rust.
They mean making the whole car look like it goes together. Instead of random colors, they’re aiming for a consistent theme from the outside to the inside.
Mojave beige is just a specific paint color. If you’re swapping parts or repainting, matching the color helps the truck look like it all came from the factory.
A camper/topper is an aftermarket or factory add-on that sits on the bed of a pickup truck, often used for storage or light camping. It changes the truck’s overall look and can affect how you plan parts sourcing and paint matching.
They’re saying they’ll repaint some pieces black instead of keeping the original color. Doing partial repainting can look off if the finish isn’t prepared and matched well.
A hood scoop is a raised opening on the hood. It can help bring air to the engine, but a lot of the time people add it mainly because it looks sporty.
Term
Euro front plastic style
“Euro front” generally means a front-end look inspired by European cars. They’re talking about changing the front trim/bumper style to match that vibe.
Air ride is a suspension system that uses air bags instead of regular springs. It lets you change how high or low the truck sits, usually with a switch or controller.
Concept
air ride vs coilovers (staged build)
They’re talking about doing the suspension in steps. They’re lowering it now with coilovers, then planning to upgrade later to air ride when they have time and money.
Part
drop plates
Drop plates are like thick spacers that help lower the back of the truck. They’re a common “in-between” mod when you want the look but aren’t ready for the full air suspension.
“Toppers” for pickups are typically truck bed caps or tonneau-style covers that protect cargo and can change the truck’s overall silhouette. The comment about them being “great or terrible” suggests fit/quality and how they affect appearance or usability.
Term
double stepped ones
“Double stepped” is describing the shape of the topper’s roof—like it has two levels instead of one smooth line. That kind of design can be harder to find and can make the truck stand out.
Concept
gem top
A “gem top” is a particular style of truck topper/cap that’s known in enthusiast circles for its distinctive shape. The hosts treat it like a collectible item—something you’d track down because it’s uncommon and visually striking.
Concept
GT one
“GT one” sounds like a specific version of the truck topper they’re talking about. The key point is that it’s a particular style people want, not just any generic cap.
Concept
Pacific Northwest
“Pacific Northwest” is used as a sourcing/availability clue—where the seller is located and where the part can be picked up. For enthusiasts, geography can strongly influence how quickly you can find rare accessories and how expensive shipping/transport will be.
They’re saying this topper style is hard to find. That usually means only a few were made or they were brought in from certain places, so collectors notice them.
Concept
comes from the UK or from Europe in general, like Germany
They’re saying the topper style is from the UK/Europe, like Germany. If it’s an import, it’s often harder to find locally, which is why people call it rare.
They say “vortex,” but they don’t explain what it is. It could be a car part or a brand, but this clip doesn’t give enough info to know for sure.
Company
collective East
They’re talking about “collective East” like it was a community that helped people find parts. In car scenes, these groups often know where to get the right stuff.
Company
Cooper's Berg
They name “Cooper's Berg” as the person you’d go to for parts. It sounds like a local hookup in that car community, but the transcript doesn’t say what it is exactly.
A wide-body setup adds wider fenders to the car. That lets you fit bigger/wider wheels and tires, which can change both the look and grip.
Company
FMF
They mention “FMF” like it’s a place or group that has lots of car parts. The exact company isn’t explained here, but it sounds like a parts source for that community.
“Mopar” is a nickname for Chrysler’s muscle-car world—think Dodge and Plymouth. When someone says “bring the Mopar,” they mean a loud, old-school American performance car.
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What is up everybody, welcome to the people's car podcast.
My name is Ryan Bielman sitting right next to me is Danny Mercado.
What's up, dude?
What's up, man?
So, if you guys hear something odd in the background, I am now a farmer.
Farmer Ryan.
Yeah, I have chicks and ducks and they're still in the house.
My children wanted them.
We went and picked them up.
It is astonishing that two weeks of growth literally turns in from these little tiny
things that you could literally fit three in the palm here in hand.
Into like, dude, there's fucking chickens over there now.
There's like live.
There's just chickens.
Just great work chickens chilling out.
So we have them still in kind of like a big bin that's heated and everything and in a
couple weeks we'll be putting those bastards outside.
So are you going to get like a coupe and everything?
Yeah.
So we actually found kind of like a hack, like a jet of coupe where, yeah, dude, we're
going to put a jet of coupe outside and all the chickens and the ducks will stick.
That would be kind of sick, actually.
Yeah.
It's my chicken coop.
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
I wonder if anyone's ever done that, like put a sticker on the back of their coop with
a bunch of chickens.
That's great.
It's like their chicken coop.
But we found this hack that was like, it's basically like a big dog pen.
Okay.
And then inside that, I will either build or get a smaller, like actual coop.
Yeah.
But that's like the initial protection at night for like a bear or a fox or anything
that we have.
We have everything.
We have everything.
And they all want to kill chickens.
They all want to eat the chickens.
100%.
Yeah.
Including us.
Yeah.
But we don't want to kill them.
You want to actually get, you know.
Yeah.
Like I don't want to eat my own chickens.
You want to actually get eggs from them.
I would eat a chicken.
Sure.
Yeah.
And I slaughtered myself.
I guess, but.
I remember being like five years old and I was in Puerto Rico, I lived with my grandmother
for a little bit down there and we had chickens in the backyard.
She would legit just grab the chicken, bring it into the kitchen, cut its head off.
100%.
Thing was just flapping around, bleeding everywhere, running around crazy, like literally the chicken
with his head cut off.
Yeah.
And then we would have for dinner.
And not that we could, we have to get too gory on this podcast because it is a Volkswagen
based podcast.
Is it a vegan podcast?
Uh, no, no, not at all, but, um, we do have a couple of our sweet little vegan listeners.
We do.
We do.
Absolutely.
And we expect that.
Yes.
But there was a chicken with its head cut off for like eight months and it survived.
And 100%.
There's like this famous chicken.
Get the fuck out of here.
And basically what happened was it had no fucking head, but there was just this little
bit of a cerebral like piece left in the back.
And then it just had like this hole that the, the guy felt bad for because it never died.
So it just started shoving food down its neck.
Get the hell out of here.
And it lived for like eight months or something.
And anybody listen, go fact check me and check that out.
There was like a, yeah, a headless chicken that lived for quite a while.
Okay.
Yeah.
That, that's fantastic.
So, okay.
So now that it is, you know, I, I want to say it's getting warmer.
It's not, it was snowing at my house yesterday.
Dude, it's ridiculous.
In late April.
Nice and warm.
It was a few days prior or Friday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like in the seventies.
Yeah.
And then we get to like, oh, it's snowing.
Yep.
Yeah.
100%.
So now that we're over that snow, um, we are going to try to go over a couple of the upcoming
shows just so people have it in mind because a lot of these things, like they're all coming
out of the gate fast.
Yes, they are.
It's like, boom, boom, boom.
Like we just had wookies in the woods this past weekend, dude.
I know.
I know, dude.
That's exactly how I feel about it.
It's like, I know piece of shit.
I know.
Dude, I know because it's like, we've always talked about it.
We've always wanted to go and then we just can't get down there to go to it.
It's, yeah, something happens all the time.
And you know what?
Next year we're going to do it.
Yeah, dude.
Like we said for the last fucking eight years or something, but, um, did you see that one?
It was like a, it was like a 350 or something went off the road.
I saw like the, I think it was a Mark six sport wagon.
I didn't see that.
And I guess somebody like kind of got shooken up.
Yeah.
There was a car behind him.
He felt like he needed to speed up or it seemed like or something on the post and he wound
up just taking a turn a little too harsh and then lost control and went over and yeah,
did some damage.
That sucks.
Luckily, like they're okay.
Yeah.
It sounded like no one really got hurt, which is good.
Yeah.
Like it's, it's for us to compare it to a road like Hawks nest is like ours are only
comparison in our area and that's like a very small, short, like curvy road.
Yeah.
You're talking about those kinds of curves for miles.
Yeah.
And I mean, if you, you know, like 19 miles or something, isn't it?
Yeah.
Something crazy.
It's a lot.
So for somebody that is more timid or, you know, doesn't want to try to push their car.
It's probably better said that, you know, you take your time and just 100%.
Do it at your own pace because, um, you know, obviously, you know, don't cross the yellow
lines of thing, you know, trying to go too fast too hard because not knowing your limits
because you know, you and your mind might think that, you know, I got this, I could
take care of this.
And then you go on a road that you've never been on before and try to, you know, drive
it like how you would drive a road that you would know in your area.
Yeah.
Or even maintenance.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like are you up to date on your maintenance?
Right.
So like there's so many things that could potentially go wrong when you're pushing it real hard
against a lot of twisties and then you have all this other people that are coming in the
opposite direction and people are flying back and forth and, um, no, just, I, it looks
like it's such a good event and it looks like it's so well done.
They do a great job with it.
It's like done by grownups.
You know what I mean?
Like you can tell it's just, they've been there before, they've done it, they've seen
it all and well organized.
Yeah.
And you can tell every time from my perspective being hundreds of miles away, it just looks
like a fantastic time and we'll try to go next year.
I know dude.
I love seeing the spectrum color photo because they always do something different every year.
And we, so there's been some spectrum color cars that have come up for sale recently and
they don't last.
Um, there was one account for sale and the post was up and the car was ready sold by
like the afternoon.
It was just real quick.
Is that a green one?
Yeah.
It was the green one.
And so there's a jazz blue one right now too.
That's not a marketplace that I've seen.
There were the green one.
It was like a very, very reasonably priced car.
It was, um, I think it was in the low, it was in the, um, I think mid-twenties price
for it.
So it's like a regular used car, you know, in a dealership or whatever.
So, right.
Um, I think the jazz blue one too is also like priced at somewhere around like 24 or
something.
Yeah.
I mean, we are getting to like, whether people like to think it or not, I've seen golf
ours too, like seven and a half golf ours and dude, they're like low twenties, sometimes
high teens.
And like, yeah, because they're already getting to be, you know, a bunch of years old, especially
the mark sevens and now they're becoming, you know, almost obsolete for parts that,
you know, seven, seven and a half because booksman has a seven year period that after
seven years, it's like, okay, next, and it just move on to the next thing.
So, and just let another, just let another model bite them in the ass later on.
Yeah.
And it's, it sucks for like people that have these cars and enthusiasts.
So we have a body of ours, uh, Bill Stegen, he, uh, one up actually smashing a deer with
his, uh, cornflower blue, uh, rabbit, yes.
And from the looks of the pictures, it's minimal damage.
I would think it's fender hood, bumper cover, light grill, you know, you're pretty parked
in the front.
Right.
And this car got one of them getting total.
Yeah.
So he, the last time I talked to him, he messaged me saying that just like you said, it's
literally the front, uh, passenger corner of the car.
Right.
He said they're already at 12, five in damages.
It's crazy.
And I'm like 12, five.
And you know, you think like all the, the new lights and everything, like this
shit is stupid, expensive.
And I think about my, for my mentality as like, you know, use parts, what can you
find used to put on this car that would be working, you know, to get this car back
on road, but obviously from an insurance standpoint, body shop, they're not doing
that.
Right.
They're going to get parts where they can get them from.
So a car that's like a rabbit edition that has specialized parts on it, you can't
just get from Kappa certified, you know, parts, distributors, you got to probably
get it from the dealership, right?
Which they're going to charge a dealership, right?
Exactly.
And it's unfortunate car like that is going to be totaled and impossible to
auction, you know, if it's not bought back.
Yeah.
Well, Oh, do you guys hear those chicks?
I don't know if you heard that or not, but yeah, dude, it's part of the game
and it sucks.
Um, so that sucks bill we feel for you.
Yeah, man.
I mean, maybe you'll be, uh, you know, blessing the skies to see what he gets
next or whatever.
But, um, still, it still sucks when you, when you enjoy a car, well, it's time
to buy my tour egg bill.
That's, that's for sure.
Yeah.
Your tour egg is still for sale.
It's, I mean, it's, it's not really for sale.
It's, it's outside and sitting.
Oh, it's for sale.
Right.
But I'm saying like, I, I haven't pushed it at all.
And I should, I keep saying like, I got to make like an actual post and put it up.
Right.
Cause you want like a six, what six grand, yeah, that's a good deal.
Um, especially because the motor only has like a hundred thousand miles on it.
Yeah.
So also we were talking about Bill.
So Bill's got this like kind of specialized shop that we won't go too
far into details, but they have like some race cars that, you know, like the
people fly in, they drive these crazy cars and shit.
And then they like fly home.
And it's like that kind of deal, right?
Oh yeah.
They do like super high end.
Like they do track, they get cars track ready to do track stuff.
So all that stuff.
So anyway, it's a specialized shop.
You know, for, for, yeah.
High end race high end, yeah.
Ferrari's, you know, that's what their brother is.
So Bill's a buddy of ours.
I asked him just yesterday to, uh, I gave him those, uh, those wheels I'm going
to put on the mark too, the Zenders.
And I said, uh, can you take the tires off?
And he said they were super like tough.
They were super hard.
Well, for being like old, yeah, he basically like had to like pry him off
and rip him apart.
Goodness.
So anyway, so it's just funny because I, I talked to Chris powder slayer and
you know, he's like, just send him up to me tomorrow and then I'll, you know,
get you in the lineup and then you just came here and you know, we were talking
before it's like, what are you going to do?
He's like, I got to see the powder slayer tomorrow.
I'm like, really?
Yeah.
So I'm bringing parts over to him to get up how to code for my pickup truck.
So it was just funny that you were just talking about it.
Yeah.
You need to get wheels down there and I'm actually going to his place tomorrow
to bring parts.
So that's awesome.
Yeah.
It's funny how things work out like that sometimes for sure.
And we didn't talk about it at all.
Oh, and you said you wish I, you knew that I was going to bills because I
could have brought him stuff for you.
Yeah.
I had my set of wheels and tires I need to get mounted up.
So yeah, I'm going to get those dropped off.
So when I go back, if you want me to bring them back because I have the new
tires and I need stuff mounted too, but that's funny.
Anyway, thanks for the help, Bill.
Shout out to you.
So yeah.
So there's a lot of new stuff coming out, a lot of, a lot of shows.
And I thought maybe you could go over a little bit of the list.
Yeah.
We have bearish cars going on this weekend.
Um, also dust off is this weekend as well.
Um, it does stuff is always a hit and miss with the weather because it's,
it's, you know, rainy season.
It is.
And it always rains at dust off.
It looks like Saturday is supposed to rain, but Sunday is supposed to be decent.
Um, Saturday, they do the laps around, uh, the track.
If you could pay to go on the track.
So it seemed like that might be a rainy event, but, um, we got
dust off coming up.
So after that, um, so if you're looking in, down in like the southeast area,
um, also VW is in the valley of Maggie Valley is going on.
I saw that.
Um, there's also, uh, looks like buggerama that's going on.
That is in like, we don't really talk about the Midwest much.
Yeah.
And it's more of a beetle show, but it's a Volkswagen show.
Yeah.
Um, that's in Wichita, Kansas.
This, um, this weekend as well, uh, dude, Volksfest, when is it?
Dude, April 25th this weekend, what everything is like this weekend.
Wait, so that's Saturday.
Yeah.
And I, and again, the weather looks like it's going to be terrible Saturday.
Like a rain out, but like, I, I am not able to do anything in Saturday
because of prior engagements, but, uh, yeah.
So once you get the kids when they're like in sports and everything,
dude, it's tough.
That is, that is hard.
But man, I, I like going to that show too.
That they, I actually, now that you say that, I think they are usually
the like one day apart.
You feel like that does happen.
Yeah.
It's like one is, you know, one's down there and one's way over here.
Yeah.
Cause it's, it's, that's over, uh, going down, uh, towards like the
Harrisburg area.
Um, now also coming up May 1st to the third is dubs at the lake.
Yep.
Shout out to Nick dubs at the lake.
Yes.
Um, that's that we've been to dubs at the lake and it's a fun time.
It's a great location.
Yeah.
Um, it brings out a really nice mix of cars, especially because of the
location of it.
You see more cars that you don't see up here in the Northeast as much.
Yeah.
You'll see some of them, but, uh, it's nice because of the location
being, uh, in Western Maryland, you see more of those mid-Atlantic cars.
Definitely.
Even like some, like Mark ones and stuff.
I like, I remember, uh, when we were there a few years ago, there was like
two or three, uh, pickup, like rabbit pickups that came out.
I'm like, I've never seen these before.
Yeah.
And they were cool little trucks, you know, it's nice to see new stuff.
Marty made a
holy shit.
Mark two May days coming up, which is the same weekend as dubs in the lake.
Um, uh, I want to do an honorary, uh, shout out for also your built spring
is coming up as well.
That's the May third weekend.
So there's just so much.
It's like, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And then in a couple, in a few weeks, I was two and a half weeks.
Um, it's going to be Alpine.
So, wow.
Alpine starts Monday.
So yeah, if you get there for like the early bird meets and stuff, so you're
going to have get together starting on Monday and we are hosting the pre two K
get together.
Yeah.
I'm scrambling for my phone right now.
It is.
So just like anybody that's gone last year, it is at the same park as it was
last year, it is Friday from 10 to 12, I believe.
And I do have to still make up the flyer.
I will be sending it to Paul and then Paul is going to be posting it all out there.
Um, but it is pre two K same location, just one, like, um, it's the field.
It's like parking lot behind the one we were at.
Yeah.
We're on the flat lot kind of it's going to be in the back lot.
So I think it's call number three.
Yes.
So same entrance, same setup just in the back lot.
Yeah.
We'll be out there directing, um, from the main road and we will help all you guys
with that, but, um, yeah, come out to that get together.
We love doing it.
Uh, I know that this is, uh, pretty heavy in the pre two K, like that whole
area when we're all down there.
Um, not that it's only a pre two K show, but there is a mark one meat, a mark
two meat, a mark three meat, a mark four meat, all that stuff.
But then we like to all get together and kind of do our thing, which is like all
the pre two K at once and we will be at that same location.
There's like a long door meat.
I thought I think it was an Audi long door meat.
So like there's something for everybody.
There's a dog meat.
If you bring your dog, you have a dog dog meat.
Yeah.
Um, there's a lot of stuff going on.
So if you're, uh, in that, um, specialized, uh, Facebook page and
Instagram page, you'll be able to see, um, what's going on.
Cause everything's updated kind of like in real time.
Correct.
So, uh, definitely check it out.
There's something for everybody.
If you're going to be going down to Helen, it's a blast.
It really is a lot of fun.
And again, another well organized event.
Oh, and the best and the people that are involved in it, whether you being
exclusively involved with, with Paul, or if you're doing one of the
get togethers, um, it's just a lot of fun just to be hanging out, seeing
cars, seeing people that you haven't seen in a while or meeting new people and
talking about the stuff that they have.
Yeah.
Paul's got a great crew too.
Yes.
Great crew.
Um, so that's, man, we're two and a half weeks out from Helen, which is insane.
Dude, I that that is like brand new information.
No, I cannot believe that I'm stoked about it, but I'm also like scared.
I mean, I'm not scared, but I'm scared, dude.
All right.
So I'm, I'm like knee deep and get my truck ready to go for this show season.
And I wanted to bring it to Helen.
Um, so this weekend I just beasted on getting the motor out of the synchro.
Okay.
So Dan and getting the truck into the lift, the lift side of my
garage, so I can put a motor out of that and like, I've got to say, dude, having
a freaking scissor lift to pull motor out is fantastic.
Sure.
Dude, it is such a lifesaver and like, uh, you know, I've done it before,
like, you know, just with your cherry picker and on your back and whatever.
Um, but it just really helps ease the process because like the hardest part
of it so far was getting the motor out of the synchro.
Sure.
And then, I mean, it's, it wasn't, it was hard because a lot of, there's a
lot of little bullshit you got to take apart on that car because everything
was crammed in there.
Right.
Um, it was just easier to drop the whole subframe with the car, with the
motor and trans together and get it all out at once.
And then I put the subframe back in by itself and wheeled that car out.
So the truck is apart, motors out, um, getting some parts sourced or
it should be coming this week for it, getting some parts powder coated.
Um, and then the slapper back in.
Nice.
So I'm very confident about it because that motor ran great and I'm not
doing anything different.
Except for just taking out of one car, cleaning it up, putting it in another.
And I'm running the stock O2O when it, and everyone's like, oh, O2O,
why don't you run O2A, O2J?
And it's like the O2O is very capable.
I was, uh, talking to Collin, the tiktok tonics, uh, I ordered some parts
from him, uh, a couple of days ago and he was telling me that he would drag
race O2Os with hundreds of passes on them and having zero issues.
I, I even think, uh, if I recall, like when he was on our podcast long time,
I think he said the same thing.
Yeah.
I think he was basically like the O2O is actually a pretty decent.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, not in stock form.
Obviously, like if you have a, if you have a diff in it or a bolt kit, like
that's what you need to do on stock form.
If you don't know how to drive it, you're going to need it anyway, because
your first and second shifts, you're just going to, you know,
destroy it if you don't, if you're just hard shifting in slamming into gears.
Um, but it's a very capable transmission.
I like the old school look of it.
I like the simplicity of it.
I like that I'm not running swap parts on it.
I want to keep it.
So it's like off the shelf stuff, just like my wife's two, five rabbit.
The same thing is like off the shelf.
Well, what's, what's nice about it also is like, if you do grenade it,
if something does happen, because some people listen to this and be like,
fuck that, right?
If, if that does happen, you can easily change it out.
You know, what's funny is like so many people now have done the O2A, O2J
swaps in mark ones.
It's like the commonplace swap.
It's like, it's, it's what the go to is O2A, O2J.
And it's like, I think maybe it's also a little bit of ignorant on people's
parts that they just automatically assume that it's still to,
oh, it's trashed, throw it out as opposed to building it.
Or maybe it's also the parts are getting a lot harder for people to build,
rebuild O2Os.
Um, look, Peliquin, there are no more.
Um, I believe, uh, he passed away.
Um, so that, that, that's a company that's not here anymore.
Um, so you can still get away with track, you know, uh, there are still
diffs you can get for those, but they're, the O2O parts are definitely
getting harder to source where an O2A, or even O2A parts too.
So I get the, the reason why a lot of people do go to an O2A, O2J swap,
because they are stronger trends.
They're better built.
Um, you can run a lot more horsepower on them.
But if you're running a car that has around 200 horsepower on it,
O2O is more than capable, hence what Collins said.
Collins said he was running his drag cars that were like 180 to 190 horsepower.
Well, don't you still have one in your wife's car?
Yeah, that's what's in that.
It's an O2O with a Peliquin diff.
So you're, you're at what, 180 horsepower?
Around that with the two five.
And yeah, you guys, no problems at all.
It pulls, it, uh, grips and goes into corners.
Like it's, it's a fun trans.
It really is.
Um, I think for, for again, for like just having like an old school style build,
I'd like to go, I like, I'm going to keep the O2O.
If it blows up, I'll put another O2O in it because everyone just gives
them away for like 50 bucks.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, right.
It's like, come take this.
It's free.
Right.
Um, so I think in the matter of what, I'm going to keep it like that.
Um, I think eventually I would like to do, um, a CAE style shifter in there.
That'd be cool.
Um, because I like the way it looks.
What, so let me ask you this.
And it's so smooth.
What is your like overall like vibe with this truck?
I hate using that word.
I can't believe I just, that's funny.
What is the overall idea?
Like what's, I want to keep it the way it looks for originality.
And I want it to be like an old school style build.
So something you were seeing in like the early 2000s.
Okay.
Um, so.
It's going with the G 60, uh, PG, actually it's a PG motor, um, out of the
synchro, um, that is going to have the license on twin screw charger on it.
I'm going to run it non-intercooled.
Yeah.
Um, there's really no reason to intercool that because, you know, it's, it's a small
set up.
It's not going to be heat soaked or anything like that.
I'm also like, you're not, you're not tracking this thing.
Right.
It's going to be like, just to run around.
You're getting on it every once in a while.
Yeah.
You're bringing it to shows.
I want to keep it simple.
Yeah.
Um, maybe down the road, I thought about an air to water set up because it
still keeps it like it compact and simple.
Kind of how the, uh, low, um, my secret wagon is with the bro charger on it
cause it has that real simple, simple setup that there's no pipes going all
over the engine bay.
I think that's the worst look in a mark one for me personally seeing all these
intercooled pipes and everything just, just clouding up the engine bay.
Just, it's just crowded.
Yeah.
It's crowded with everything.
So I want to keep it simple.
Yeah.
Oh, I love simple Mark one base.
Yeah, I like nice and tidy.
And my wheels, um, four are, um, super root beer color.
So they're like, um, metallic brown.
And so I'm powder coating the engine pieces the same colors.
Same super root beer.
So, and is that also to match kind of like interior as well?
Yeah.
Cause the interior is tan and brown.
Yeah.
So your whole, your whole car is like yellow and like brownish tan.
And that's kind of like the, the collective look you're going for.
Pretty much.
That's cool, man.
I, I also sourced actually a shout out to Callahan that's down in Georgia
because he just bought a Mark one and pick up really clean looking truck.
Yeah.
Um, Mojave beige, I believe it is for, you know, the other Mojave
base that he already has, but Mojave Mojave.
Yeah.
I knew Mojave, but he has a camper or a topper on it.
Yeah.
Doesn't want it.
Oh, and you do.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I'm going to grab that from him.
Yeah.
And I think it's, I want to say, I think it is painted Mojave beige.
So I'm probably just going to paint a black, the parts that are painted on it.
Nice.
Um, I think the black will go well with, uh, like I want to do the,
the small luck bill in the front.
Yeah.
And I want to do the hood scoop, the cameo hood, just a little tidbits.
Yeah.
Um, black, the Euro front plastic style.
Yeah.
So that's, that's great.
Yeah.
That's, that's kind of what I'm going for.
Nice.
Um, eventually I want to do, um, an air ride set up in it, but for now I'm
just going to run coil overs and I'm just going to have, um, the drop plates in the
back, it does have air shocks.
I'm going to leave that for now.
Got you.
Cause I don't think I miss, I don't have the time to get it done.
You know what's funny about the toppers for pickups, they're either great or
they're terrible.
Yeah.
And there's some, it's also amazing how many were, were made.
Oh, it's, it's crazy.
Like this one, I think it's custom made for this truck.
So that's why I thought it was kind of cool.
That's like something you don't see every day.
I feel like there's a bunch where I'm like, damn, like that's one I'm not
familiar with and, um, you know, some people color match them.
Some people don't.
Some people, you know, like the, there's the double stepped ones.
There's, there's just a bunch of funky ones out there.
There's a gem top, a GT one for sale right now to yellow.
That's in like Pacific Northwest and like, fuck, yeah, I'm going to get that here.
Right.
You know, but no, it's, it's going to work out, um, being done, how I'm going to
pick up that, um, topper and then throw that on, uh, what I throw it on for the
show or bring it back or whatever.
Do you remember the collective East truck with, uh, I want
to say that was almost like, like an ambulance, like back end.
They was like a double topper, but it was all open.
So it's a rare top.
Like they go, it comes from the UK or, um, from Europe in general, like Germany
or something.
And, and there, there has been a couple.
I think there was one that, um, I think actually, did Casey have one?
Did Casey buy one or something?
So one of those kids bought one.
It was like at, uh, Mark one madness once on another truck.
Yeah.
And that topper is fucking incredible.
That's cool.
That's a really cool set up because you can go in there and stand up.
I remember seeing like vortex.
I don't know.
It was like 15 or 20 years ago.
Now, like people were talking about it and then you see one pop up here and you
see one pop up on someone else's truck and it's, it's crazy.
You're right.
Cause there's so many different, uh, specs that you could have got, um, on
a pickup truck like that.
Dude, shout out to collective East back then.
I know, dude.
All the parts that he, if in my eyes, who's always, if you wanted anything
from collective East, you would go to, um, Cooper's Berg and he'd be there with
the truck or something else.
Cool.
Yeah.
Um, like a white body, Mark three or whatever at the time.
If I recall correctly, I believe FMF has that horde of collective East parts.
And I even think they either, I could be speaking out of terms here, but I
think they're either like kind of done with that or they've gone through it or
taking a break or something.
I know they sold off like a lot of stuff, which of course that's what it was.
I mean, it was parts to sell, right?
But, um, there was some cars or it was like a race car too.
There's a couple of Mark three wide body stuff, some rare stuff that I think they,
you know, they got rid of a lot of it.
Yeah.
Um, they believe there's some eight 59 stuff in there too.
I thought so also.
Yeah.
Uh, dude, what a time.
Dude, I seriously, um, so I am, I'm hoping to have the truck down in Helen running and
driving.
Oh, you want it for two and a half weeks from now.
Oh yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let me ask you this.
Sure.
And I want you to have it too.
Okay.
Do you have a backup plan?
No.
Perfect.
That's awesome.
Yup.
That's what we like to hear, buddy.
Oh yeah.
So you wouldn't bring your wagon down.
I thought about it.
I guess if, um, if it for some reason didn't happen, I don't want to want it to
not, maybe I possibly didn't want to know.
You know, you should bring the Mopar.
Oh my goodness.
No, I'm kidding.
Don't bring the Mopar.
Don't be that guy.
No, um, especially like the town is great.
Those roads are not built for a muscle car.
If that kind of, if you, no, that is.
The anti, it would fall off the mountain.
Yeah.
You would just see a yellow Mopar flying off that.
What's the highest mountain up there?
Oh, geez.
Dude, I don't even think you'd ever make it up there because you'd fall off the
side of the overlook where you can see everything.
Yeah, that hill going up to it.
Oh my God.
It wouldn't be able to do that.
It's, it's not, it's not that kind of if you ever did bring your, if you ever did
bring your road runner, you would have to almost kind of like park it and just do
like your own, like every once in a while cruise alone somewhere and then come
back and just be like, uh, just kidding.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, cars not at all.
So what else do you have that you might want to bring our 32 wagon?
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
Okay.
That'd be cool to rip around those roads.
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
Sounds good.
Yeah, it would.
Um, so that's a possibility.
Well, yeah, because I was just, I'm just wondering because like you have, is
your trailer out?
Okay.
Yeah.
Finally.
So I know it was kind of do it.
Yeah.
So we had this huge dirt mound that was in front of my trailer and he from the
community finally cleared it because like, I don't have a backhoe.
I don't have a tractor or nothing to do with stuff.
So my trailer is actually accessible now.
That's good.
Yes.
So you have a trailer, you have a plan and plan ish and plan ish and we have the
only thing keeping you and that swap done is hundreds of miles and then, uh,
you get down there in Georgia, even if you get it there and it, and it doesn't
work, we'll just push you around, you know, terrible.
I mean, I think so again, it's, it's pretty simple.
It's straightforward to get the motor and trans in there.
Sure.
Then it just has to be wired and plumbed.
Yeah.
That's so that's the pain in the ass.
That's the pain in the ass part.
Um, I'm hoping to, um, uh, get that taken care of.
Um, all right.
Yeah.
I got a bunch of parts.
Got to throw on there.
I got to get, I got to get the stock exhaust off.
I have got to, um, take the stock suspension off, go through the breaks.
Uh, I still have a tall order.
I have a tall order.
So, um, so I am just driving me and my family down at like right after my kids
get done with, it's basically like a chorus thing.
Yeah.
It's like some coral thing.
Then we're just hopping in the car Wednesday night and see coral.
Yeah.
Okay.
Coral coral.
And we're just hopping in the car and, uh, taking off.
But we're just going in the Alice.
That's cool.
I am bringing a 2022 VR six.
Is that the last year of your six L, uh, our line, fucking Atlas.
What was the last year?
I think that was the last year.
22.
I think 23 is only the two.
Yeah.
Unless it's 24.
Um, but it's either 22 or 23 is the last year.
You should just throw a wiki pipe on it just for the trip.
Dude, I would love that.
We can wick like, I'll just get some coilovers overnighted from Japan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, but I was going to say that it's just, it's so you just have to hire
mine goes to like 1999 or whatever it was.
Little.
What year was that?
Quote 2000.
2000.
Yeah.
It's maybe 2000.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So again, we're excited about that.
Um, do we have another topic that we want to talk about?
Um, and then we do have questions as well.
Yeah.
So going back to talking to Connor Tectonics tuning, um, awesome
conversation to have with him.
He's actually working on a fantastic project.
You were saying, dude, um, what is it?
So he's got a golf limited.
Um, that would, some might say it's possibly your favorite car.
Oh, it is my favorite Volkswagen.
Yeah.
Um, so I, I believe he said that.
He said it's like number 61 chassis, but the motor's out on
number 67 because he only made 71 of them.
Um, the car is not in very good condition.
Wait, let's go over what a golf limited is real quick, just in
case that like three people don't know what it is because everyone
else does.
So 71 of them made.
Yes.
Mark two.
Yes.
Fastest production Volkswagen ever made until the Mark four R 32.
Yes.
Um,
because it was a produce, it was production car.
It was a production car, quote unquote.
Um, it is a basically a sleeper from the factory.
It is a four door car.
Yes.
No one, no one would know what it is.
No box arches, no, a regular plane.
Special like four door golf, right?
Because if people are thinking like a rally or something, no, that's not it.
Right.
16 valve.
Yep.
And what does that 16 valve have?
G 60.
It has a G 60 attached and synchro.
Right.
So it's a synchro and yeah, I mean, that is such a cool car.
Yeah.
They were 10 to $15,000.
Oh, I know dude.
When we were, when we were looking at them.
Yeah.
And when they were even two thousand, when they were even
importable still.
Yeah.
And then they shot up to 20 and it was like, holy shit, this car is 20.
Now you see these fucking cars and we're talking 80.
We're talking 90 of money.
So anyway, so Colin, Colin actually is working on this car for a customer.
So this car is, it needs a lot of work.
He said, didn't run in the owner paid $100,000 worth.
So for a car that, yes, it is super limited.
Now it has to come here.
Right.
No, that has to be imported.
So when you say $100,000, it wasn't for sale, non-running $100,000 in the US.
Right.
I'm just saying, so people kind of, you know, you and that, that Euro to
dollar markup is hefty right now.
Oh yeah.
So it is like a kick right in the balls.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Um, so he's going through and rebuilding this motor.
Like he's, he's doing a freshly built on it and this car is going to be, you know,
a really nice car when it's all said and done.
Now, looking at a car like that, yeah, what, because we have a very small niche
market that we have, that we, we are like, you know, we always talk about, we
always joke around as a traveling circus.
We do everything the same eight people.
So what cars other than like a golf limited would be worthy of like a build
like that, that's you're going to spend $100,000 on.
That's a great question.
Eric, I mean, not an air quote, like a water quote.
Yeah, right, right, right.
There's only a few that may come to mind.
Okay.
The first thing that comes to my mind and not necessarily that it's a Volkswagen,
but we're in the same family here is a B five RS four.
People spend a ton of money on those cars.
We're talking like a good one.
Low miles.
People are spending 80 K on a B five RS four and it's, it's so
funny because you throw two KO fours or two tile turbos or whatever.
And like, you basically have the same power plant, like a little bit of
tuning and everything else, but people want that authenticity.
Yeah.
They want the body kit because it is different.
Yeah.
Um, and you know, when people want to say like, I actually have a B five RS four.
Yeah.
So that's one thing that I thought of rallies have Mark two rallies have gone up.
Yes.
And that's the thing, like with the rallies, they were so many more of them
made, but still limited thousands.
Right.
And you're looking at a car that the parts on a rally are unattainable, at least on
a limited, yes, there's limited edition parts on that car, but it's just
Mark for golf, Ford or Mark two.
I'm sorry.
Mark two golf, Ford or yes.
Right.
Um, yes, it did come with power windows.
Yes, it did come with leather.
You're right.
It was a higher end car that like Mark twos use it and come with that kind of
stuff.
You're totally right.
There are things that you can definitely swap.
It is, I would say, I would agree with you.
It is harder to put a rally together.
If you have one smash or God forbid, you actually buy one and bring it over here.
And you know what happens.
No, I'm not going to say.
We're not going to say because one day one of us or both of us may own a rally.
You never know.
But I'm saying like, if something like that were to happen, yeah, it would
be soul crushing.
You know, it's kind of sucks about what you said just now.
I wish I didn't say it.
Yeah.
Let me, let me air right here.
Knock on wood.
Yeah, I knocked on my schedule at work is changing.
Oh, no, we've got a lot of changes happening at work and it's all over
the place, but I'm right now, I'm going at seven in the morning.
I'm seven to five.
Yeah.
I'm going to be going in five in the morning, five to three.
Are we talking peak hours, dude?
I don't want to say it.
I don't either.
And I'm not even going to say what we're talking about when we say peak hours.
Exactly.
So.
Oh boy.
But we may or may not have some brand new content.
Oh, my goodness, dude, it's going to be the old, the newest, old.
Yeah, let's, let's not do, and you know what you need for that.
There's only one thing that you need on a front of one of your cars.
Dear alerts.
No, a fucking brush bar, a dear bar.
Yes, I know.
Okay.
I do.
Um, so looking at a build.
So if you're going to pick a car, an older Volkswagen, yes, that you're going
to spend a hundred thousand dollars on, and then you're going to do a, like a
ground off restoration on this car.
What cars or what are you doing with?
I do love a rally.
Yeah, I do love the, it is so hard to not look at the box flares and to look at
the whole front end and the lights and the bumpers and, and, but to me, I would
ruin that probably in your eyes.
I would ruin it because I don't want to, you know what, I have, I have mixed
feelings on it.
If it was absolutely superb, and I brought it over here, I probably wouldn't
want to fuck with it because I do love originality too.
That's kind of why I'm not fucking much with the Mark two.
Now I'm just kind of like, you know, just making it like a little bit nicer, a
little bit better.
But if it was a rally that was kind of like, okay, I have to put some parts back
together, I'm probably doing, I hate to say it.
I probably doing like a, like a, some kind of forced induction 12 valve.
Sure.
And that's just me.
And then of course I would also like to do a Haldex swap.
Yeah.
Is, are they doing a Haldex swap in the limited?
I don't believe so.
I think it's going to stay as it is.
Interesting.
Yeah.
And I think for that kind of car, the originality of it is what commands the
value as well as just being such a limited car in general.
Yeah.
Like I would want to keep that the way it is, how it is from the factory.
Cause you get, like you said, that was the fastest production Volkswagen
until the R32.
Yes.
So that's from 89.
Yeah.
It's the old three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a crazy run for a car that is obsolete and outdated.
It's a crazy run.
And it's also like Volkswagen.
What were you doing the whole time?
I mean, you know what I mean?
It's great.
Yeah.
But that's when they were quirky and we loved it all.
Yeah.
So I'm not like, I'm not talking too much shit on that era.
Right.
Um, I would also probably look for a super, super bare bones and rare
Mark one of some sort.
Like it would probably be like it's some kind of swallowtail that was
absolutely perfect.
And if I had to bring that over from Europe just to kind of, you know, do that
and then kind of do it up a little bit.
But, um, early.
Sharoko pop, pop when this had that one, that's for sale.
That's super early.
Sharoko to have like dual wipers in the front.
I love, I love Sharoko's.
Yeah.
Like an early S ones.
Yeah.
An early S one that like it still has one off parts for like that half year only.
It wasn't even like a one year old and it's like a half a year transition between.
So, you know, that would be a car.
I think that would command good money that you that it should.
Get what it deserves, so to speak.
Yeah.
But again, I think there we're kind of at like no other Volkswagen specifically.
And we're not talking air cooled because like, like split window buses and stuff.
Oh yeah, I forget.
They'll go through the roof.
But as far as a water cooled Volkswagen, I don't think you're seeing
anything else get close to a hundred thousand dollars.
Yeah.
Um, when you're talking, when you're talking a good rally, like you're talking
as far as euros go, they're trading around 35, 38, maybe 40,000 euros,
which is again, strong money, strong money.
And then the kick in the pants is to get it over here and then do the transition
into US dollars, which is a lot more.
But yeah, there's there's a couple that I saw.
There's one I've actually been looking at and it's 19 five.
Yeah, there's some out there like that.
And it doesn't have the rally front end.
It has like a round spot in front of you.
And it's like, it definitely was a driver car.
And if you can get that car for a little cheaper and be in it, maybe getting it
for from 15 and maybe having it all in around 20 to bring it here, then it's
like a car you can kind of do whatever you want with it.
Um, yeah, I've thought about that a little bit, but it's like, yeah, it's
still a lot of money.
Yeah, regardless, um, because buying a car for 20, 20, say 20 or 30,000.
And then you got to sink in to 10 grand.
You know, who knows how much you're putting into this car?
Cause yeah.
So I've, I talked to, so Errol and Heather were up here.
Yes, we'll swap me.
And we kind of talking a little bit.
I think I was talking to Heather about it, but, um, Errol's car.
And I was talking to him a few weeks about this, his, uh, golf country
that he had the second one, the one that wasn't that he didn't cut up
into a million pieces.
Um, that car was such a good car.
Yeah.
And I, there's part of me that real, I kind of get like on and off of this,
this golf country, like wagon.
Sure.
I don't know why.
Sometimes I'm like, eh, whatever.
And then sometimes I'm really into them.
Yeah.
Um, dude.
And then I think like the perfect swap for that to me would be like a
pump deuce in there.
Oh yeah.
I think that would be so sick.
And that car was so clean and it looked so good in red and the interior was clean
and it drove super well.
Um, but those you can still actually kind of get from Europe for a decent price.
Yeah.
They're still fairly reasonable.
Yeah.
Um, like some people kind of don't consider them is like quote unquote collectible.
Yeah.
I don't know how many countries they made.
Um, I'm sure it was in the few thousands or whatever, but you can still like see
them and I'm talking euros, like they're still, you know, seven, eight, nine
thousand euros.
Yeah.
So I mean, that's still kind of like a, at the end of the day, what he's spending
over here when he finally get it over 15, 16.
Yeah.
You know, I think that's kind of cool.
Um, what about something?
Now it's going to be a special person, specialized person that wants them like
this, but, and then cause the cars are so cheap to buy, but the parts are impossible
to get, but if you're looking for to do like a restoration on the vehicle,
yeah, um, a GCC Colorado, you can get them for pretty much nothing.
There was one, I went for sale.
That was a nugget yellow one.
They had 67,000 miles on it.
Is that the one I sent you?
Yeah.
That was no title.
Yeah.
It was like, it was going to part it out.
Then he put it for sale.
Every time I see a nugget yellow, it's coming your way.
Yeah, dude.
And it's like 67,000 miles on it.
Man, yeah, it had a tree fall on it.
So like the hood with smash defenders and stuff.
So definitely need to body work.
No title.
Obviously it's kind of an issue, um, but it's a temporary issue.
You could figure it out.
Yeah.
You know, you can, you can get it sorted out.
Um, but I think, I mean, I'm not, I mean, nobody's going to spend a hundred
thousand dollars on a Colorado, but there was the crowd convertible that went for
sale and sold.
Um, yeah.
But what did that sell for?
Like 25.
What was it?
I don't, I don't know.
It was, uh, 48,000, I think.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, that's, that's some big money.
Again, it's a one of two bill, right?
Like the magnums, same thing with those.
And didn't the same guy back in the day own both of them?
I believe so.
Yeah.
I think he did.
And he brought him like out to like at least one of them down to a H2O.
Yeah.
Back in the day.
Um, maybe one of the, like, if you're looking at like one of the limited like
96 Kratos, the Colorado storm, storm.
Um, again, there's nothing that, nothing that comes to mind.
I would command a hundred thousand dollars.
So like, it would have to be, uh, serial number.
Zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, one.
Yeah.
Like Mark one of a rabbit, right?
Or a shirako or something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you're something very credible, very early.
Almost like a museum piece car, um, that for some reason wasn't in a museum.
And you happen to find it in a barn or something.
Correct.
Um, yeah, it is.
Cause you think about these cars like there.
All right.
So there's a Mark three VR for sale right now.
Really nice car.
Guy wants an 11,000 for it.
Black.
And everyone is like flaming him and like just like letting him have it.
It's a $3,500 car.
You know, I'll pay 45 or whatever for it.
It's easy to say it is.
And those prices, I get it.
Like we were there.
We knew those cars were for what were they were 10, 15 years ago.
Yeah.
That's what they were.
Yeah.
They're not that anymore because you can't find those clean cars anymore like that.
That's true.
I would say that you're completely right.
I would also say that in, I do think we went through a little bit of a bubble.
Sure.
And I do think we're in a little bit of a, a corrective state right now where some
of these cars have come down a little bit.
I've been surprised at some of the sales on like, bring a trailer recently.
And I'm not just necessarily just talking Volkswagen, Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche,
whatever.
Um, I do think things are certainly softer now than they were in like 22 or 23.
Um, we're in 26.
Yeah.
And things have changed.
It has.
Um, but I, I don't think it's out of the question to have a clean mark three that
isn't that a supercharged VR or is it not?
Is it just a VR?
I think it's just a VR.
Okay.
It may be.
Um, but you know, uh, a pretty clean, it, it definitely deserves eight.
Yeah.
I, I think so.
I mean, so people like that's a $3,500 car.
Well, no, not really.
No, because you can buy a more right out mark four for that.
That's what that's what you're going to get for that.
Yeah.
A clean, not rusted mark three.
I think now you're talking like eight to 12.
Well, the thing is, go look for one.
Right.
If you want to find one, go find one.
Yeah.
Show me anything different.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Because you're not going to be able to find a car that's like, uh, a nice built
car with pure correct parts that's going to go for a cheap price anymore.
Yeah.
You might be able to get lucky on something that's been sitting around for a
little bit, but it has to get gone through.
And when you're spending money to go through everything then.
Um, yeah, I don't know.
I think looking at it like a lot of the prices, again, Volkswagen's don't
command a lot of money, $100,000 for one is kind of crazy, but I'm
something on the limited.
I think it does deserve that kind of price.
It's, it's crazy enough for if someone cares about it that much and they have
the money to spend it, then fuck it.
That's what they're doing.
If I had that kind of money, I would buy one.
I was, you know, it's cool too.
He's going to spend $100,000 or say when it's all done, 120 or whatever.
Right.
$150,000, whatever.
He's going to go somewhere and three people are going to know what it is.
Yeah.
They're going to go to Coolmark too.
And there's people walking by.
Oh, you know, you did a 16 valve G 60 swap.
That's awesome.
And then just keep walking.
Yeah.
And it's like, you're not going to have like the, for me, that's even cooler though.
Yeah, absolutely.
Cause you have like the motorsports plate that has the number of the car.
You've got the blue.
Surround on the grill, the badge with the grill.
Like, you know, there's, there's a few little things that you know what you're
looking for.
Nice shirt.
Can you fake that stuff?
Can you reproduce it and save yourself 80 grand?
I've thought about that.
I've thought about like doing a golf limited tribute car, so to speak, which I
think would be the shit.
It would.
Um, I happen to have a whole drive, a drive train right now sitting at my house.
Um, speaking of synchros and besides, um, there's one that just went for sale in
Canada.
It's in Ontario.
It's like right near Toronto.
So like not too far of going across from Niagara Falls.
Why are you telling me this?
I just happen to see it come for sale today.
It's a sedan.
It's a maroon.
It's a cool car because it's a very low spec.
It's got manual windows, non-sunroof, not even a spoiler in the back.
And like to see a B three sedan was like, not even a spoiler from the factory.
It's kind of cool.
Car doesn't run, um, it's just sitting like in someone's garage.
Like it was a bill course it is.
Yeah.
I got it like never got to it.
I don't know if it's rust free or not because the Canadian car, most of them are
all rotted out, but if it's a clean car, the dude was asking like 4,800 Canadian
or 5,800 Canadian.
And I was like, huh, let me see what the conversion for that.
It's like, oh, I was like 4,300 bucks.
Like an asshole.
So, um, I'm not buying the car.
No, thank God, that's what I wanted.
I'm not buying the car.
I don't have time, money or a place to put another car.
Right.
Um, not that I would want another sedan anyway.
Yeah.
I just thought for the price, I was like, well, it needs a supercharger.
I have a supercharger.
Right.
It says the needs of fueling system to go on through.
I have the fueling system.
Dude, you posted that and I'm like, what the fuck, but dude, you have the wagon.
I do.
I don't want, if I was going to, so if I had a time, which I don't, um, I'm going
to reiterate, yes, yes, these are great words.
I'm talking myself out of it.
Yes, but I support this.
I would buy, I would run up there, grab that car, bring it back, import it properly,
get it back on the road and then sell it because I have all the parts to put
back together, but I don't want to crash it.
Gotcha.
Um, but it's a good idea.
So somebody should go and buy that synchro sedan.
That's been Canada.
It's super easy.
Go up and get it.
Bring it in the important.
That car is like 40 bucks.
They don't, they don't do anything.
They don't care about it.
It's a facade.
It's not a right hand drive car from Japan or whatever.
So if someone's looking for a synchro facade sedan, there's one for so right now
on the B three page.
There you go.
It's not me.
I'm not buying it.
Yeah.
So kind of like talking about like the truck and doing the build and stuff on it.
Um, so there was a interesting post that came up, um, about a week and a half ago.
Um, ultra McVicar was talking about social media ruined cars.
And it's an interesting thought.
And you see cars that are built that are very, how do I say it's, you can tell the
cars are built for clicks.
They're built for like that.
Wow factor.
The hype cars.
Yeah.
And obviously that's what gets the attention and that's what people are
gravitated toward because you see this and like, Oh, look, that's great.
That's awesome.
I want to get whatever, you know, it's, it's made for clicks and it's not made for
yourself or driving.
And it does definitely caters towards the mark news more than anything.
Um, but it does spread all over the place.
It does spread to all different car manufacturers, all different genres.
Um, and listen, what he said was like, I miss when more builds felt made to live
with, not just posted.
And if you think about like, you know, doing a build or seeing a build and how
long a build would take, like you've got cars that were built, it took 10 years.
People have, you know, just, just now getting cars out.
Like Neil's cars, just comes to mind for that.
Or like the, the, the Zonker, uh, Scirocco, you know, there's cars that have taken
years to build.
And then these people or companies or groups are like churning cars out.
Like, boom, boom, boom.
It's like, this is like the new thing.
And then six months later or a year later, this is the next new thing.
Yeah.
And there's no longevity.
There's no longevity, dude.
Um, I completely agree.
I think, I think there is more and more of a pushback on social media as we get
older, I think more people should take steps back.
Um, and when we're talking like the car, the car world, the car industry, the car
scene, I, I don't think it necessarily lends itself to, um, like real enthusiasm.
Yeah.
It's kind of just like, you're always thinking, what can I do to then show what
I did?
Like, what can I post?
What can be next?
What's, what can I shock people with?
And like you said, it just, it comes and it happens.
And it's like a matter of just ones and zeros at that point.
It's like, what is the transaction?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's not, you're building something with your friends.
And it's more of the experience that people are getting together and, uh, they
share that time together.
And then it, you bring it out and it's like this, this new, it was like a secret.
Only certain people knew about.
And then people see it and they're like, where the fuck did that come from?
Yes.
And that is, was always the best part about going to things like H2O back in the
day, and you would see these fucking incredible cars that you either did or
did not know about.
Yeah.
Um, I'm going to speak out of the other side of my mouth right now.
Okay.
So on the other hand, we are all getting older, right?
And you said the traveling circus.
I like that.
So it's like the traveling circus of, I guess in our circles, it's, you know,
the pre two K shit and it's a bunch of this same people in general that we see
all the time and the people that you grew up with, the people that you, that's
not necessarily the people that are all together now.
Right.
So it's not like you can always get that fixed by just saying, Hey, you're
calling your friend that lives three blocks away or down the street or 15
minutes away and they're going to come over.
You and I are lucky that, you know, we kind of found each other at some point
later on in life and we don't live far away from each other.
But there are so many people that like, like almost how do you share that
passion with people anymore too?
Yeah.
Like other than some of the, the shows that we go to, how do we, you know, how
do you kind of express yourself or share it?
And I guess in that aspect, I kind of understand social media in the same
token, I fucking hate it.
And I, and I do think there's a lot of negativity when it comes to it.
And I do think it's a lot of like people don't take a step back.
I've said this before, people don't take a step back and really think to
themselves like, would I be doing this for myself if social media didn't exist?
Right.
That part, that part like kills me.
Oh, absolutely.
Like when people are doing stuff just to be like, look at me, look what I did.
That like, right.
And I, I just, I struggle, I struggle with that.
And I, I struggle with that to the point where, and I just like just
bringing the listeners in to like one of my struggles, right?
I want to get rid of everything.
I want to get rid of fucking Facebook.
I want to get rid of Instagram stuff.
And do you know what the one thing that's kind of holding me to that is?
Is this podcast?
Sure.
And I want to get to like a certain milestone that we've talked about before.
I want to get to 200 episodes.
Yeah.
And I've said that before and like, there's almost like, if I disconnect
completely from, from social media, then it's almost like, am I, and this is weird.
Maybe this is something I have to work through and I don't really understand.
I know I'm going off on a little tangent here, but is it, is it like, I feel
like then I'm just talking to a wall because then I have like no other
interactions other than when people come to a show and then they might be like,
yo, I caught this episode, which people do and that's awesome.
But you're not getting that instant, like when we put stuff out, people contact us
and they're like, Hey, did you think of this?
Or I know that car or I loved when I used to see, you know, a fucking VR
turbo, whatever it was, like you would, you would get, you get that instant feedback.
Yeah.
And I think to me, that's the more healthy side of things.
Absolutely.
I agree with that.
But, uh, dude, I don't know.
I'm so right now, I'm 42 years old.
I'm sick and tired of the way life is going.
I don't want fucking anything to do with AI.
Oh, dude, not at all.
I really don't.
I don't want, I don't want social media, but I do want to stay connected
with all these people that we got to connect with over the years.
And I don't want to lose that.
And it's almost kind of like, uh, Vanneke has said it before because he got
off of social media and he's like, dude, if you have my number, call me.
Right.
Or if it texts me and I do think that that's awesome too, but you are taking
this, this great form of communication away when you get rid of it.
So that, that is the struggle that I have with it.
Yeah.
I think if you look at like what the bills have been, you know, more recent
times, um, across all, you know, all make some models, not just in the
bookshelves and community.
Obviously you're trying to get that, that click.
You're trying to, you know, get that quick fix.
Um, you're doing it for, you know, seeing points or cloud or wherever it is.
But then you get someone like Ted's car.
Yeah.
Ted's car has been Ted's car for a hundred years.
Right.
Yeah.
It's been Ted's car since the beginning of time.
Yeah.
Um, this car is like, don't eat the apple and don't let it hit Ted's car.
Right.
Exactly.
You know, and that's a car that's like a testament to like longevity and to a
build that, you know, is still, it's still relevant and current for being as
old as it is.
Yeah.
And for people, cause you have people that maybe aren't really into the
older water cold Volkswagen's, but then see a car like that for the first time.
And you're like, wow, that's pretty sick.
Where, you know, let me, what's your Instagram?
Let me see the build.
I'm like, you know, like, no, no, no, there isn't a build on Instagram because
this car was built so long ago that you weren't even born yet.
Literally, it's crazy.
I mean, yeah, not, not as many people can say that, but you're right.
Yeah.
Because you're looking for that instant, uh, satisfaction.
But if you really look at those kinds of cars that are staples in the community
and have been around for so long, that's, that is what how, that's how well,
that's what we should get back to.
That's what we should be striving towards.
So here's my question though.
And that, you know, we probably don't have the answer tonight for it, but
yeah, because he built that car for himself.
But you said 100% yeah, but you say we should strive towards that.
We should get back to how do it for yourself.
Okay.
Like, all right, I have a truck right now, but, but hold on.
Okay.
You say do it for yourself, but it's almost like, can you do it for yourself
with the dark pole of social media?
It's hard.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It's harder.
It is.
It is harder to like, to make the, to, to take the scissors and make the clip.
And then you can truly do it for yourself because you don't give a fuck.
Yeah.
But like, to me, I don't know, man, I struggle with that.
I just do.
Some people are probably just like, you got to use making too much of a big deal
out of it.
Maybe possible and that could be too, but I feel like even having that, it's
like this constant, like I feel like it's this darkness, like it's this pole.
It is not a healthy thing.
Correct.
It's definitely more of a dark thing because it's something that's you're
constantly like transfixed on it and you're, you're always thinking about,
yeah, you know, like you're just constantly.
It's an addiction.
It is a doom scrolling or whatever you're doing.
Like, you know, even like we took around about like, go on Facebook,
marketplace and like looking for parts and stuff.
Another addiction.
But you're literally like scrolling the end of the time there, trying to, you know,
find an internet.
I cannot tell you the last time I took a shit and I didn't look for cars or parts
or whatever.
Yeah, I cannot tell you.
Right.
And I'm talking fucking years.
Right.
Of like, actually, that's not totally true.
I have actually put my phone in a spot and anybody that's listening should try
this, put your phone down and actually go and enjoy an old school analog shit.
Analog shit.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, just look at the wall, look at, look at what it like, just read
a magazine, get a magazine, get a magazine rack, like you would have a meal
back in the day in the bathroom.
Absolutely.
Which is kind of funny because like the thing about that, like do you want
your magazine?
Right.
I'll show you that.
But, um, and I saw, I've said this before because working where I do work,
like I don't have access to my phone all the time and I'll go for like eight or
10 hours not having any connection at all.
Um, but the second you get out, you want to check your phone, you're checking
your phone and seeing what, oh, I'm an empty.
I got a 500 messages and you know, all these new things that popped up or
whatever the case is.
Or like, if you've like actually contacted somebody for parts now, like
they're responding back to you or vice versa and everything.
So that was one thing.
Going back to, uh, the, the VW sought me, that was what was nice about it.
That it was in person.
Yeah.
The parts were there.
People could buy and have it in your hand.
It was a tangible thing.
And there's very sporadic cell phone service down there.
Right.
So as an entire day of just hanging out bullshitting and just having a good
time buying and selling parts.
Yeah.
100%.
So it was actually a really great time.
Um, I think this time this year, I, the way it looked like this is the, the
biggest, uh, parts vending that we've had thus far.
Um, and I think it's just going to keep growing because now you're starting
to see a little bit more, um, newer parts like Mark four stuff and coming out
and whatnot.
So yeah, um, I think moving forward, that is, that is something that can be
sustained because we all have parts towards, we have, you know, parts that
we're not necessarily using anymore and someone else can.
And when you go to a slot meet like that, you've got to have the mentality of
you're not going to ask top dollar for it.
Yeah.
You're going there to get rid of it because you don't want it anymore.
Sitting around your garage or basement or attic, collecting dust for
last 15, 20 years, nothing worse than going to a swap meet and everyone
knows that motherfucker that's sitting there and they want absolutely the whole
world for their part.
Oh, absolutely.
And it's just like, dude, yeah, are you using it?
Right.
Fucking let it go because we're the only ones sustaining ourselves.
Exactly.
Like everybody there, and this is, this is not necessarily a criticism of the
show, but like it's a criticism of ourselves.
Well, it's, it's, it's just a reality too.
Yeah.
There, there was no, and there were some, but what I'm saying is there's no other
people at that swap meet.
It's just, it's just, it's, it's the traveling circus.
It's everybody there is also there with their own parts.
And yeah, are they getting up, going to another vendor and saying, Hey, I need
this, this and this?
Sure.
Dude, that exchange happened all day.
Yes.
But also, like these are all the parts that are needed to keep our cars going.
Yes.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
I was talking to Jeremy Ray about this.
Um, he had, he kind of was going a little bit of a rant because, um,
somebody, um, needed a part.
He had a part, sent it to that person.
Um, then the person, I think kind of the situation was one up, turn around and
selling it or asking a bunch of money for something, whatever.
Um, but again, like we're the only ones that are sustaining ourselves in this
group, in this, in this community.
If we have parts and you're not using parts, let them go to someone that can
use it.
Yeah.
Get some money for it or whatever the case is, you know, something reasonable.
But yeah, you don't have to give everything away for free, but also I'm
just saying there's always that guy.
Oh, there's definitely going to be those people because they, you know, obviously
when markets and trends go and everything, you're asking something right now.
Case in point, there is a R32 bumper for sale marketplace for like $3,000.
That's dude, a hundred percent.
And I get it.
Okay.
It's untenable.
It's, but he's at the absolute top of the market and he just wants money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I get you're doing it to sell stuff, but it makes some money on it.
But like, come on dude, or there's a guy that has a rabbit pickup, um, tailgate
right now for a thousand bucks in primer.
And like, like they flamed him on the post because, you know, it's in primer.
It's not original.
It's not, you know, um, an NOS part because it's in primer.
So now you're, how long has been primer?
Is there a surface rest behind that primer?
Like a whole bunch of stuff goes, it's not a thousand dollar tailgate.
It never should be.
Right.
Exactly.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is like, if you're selling parts, ask reasonable
prices for them because there's only a small group of us.
There's only a small in this group of people that are still doing this or
saying that we're, we're all in this together and we got to help each other out.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
I love how you ended that.
Um, we are at, uh, like a ways through this already.
Sure.
We have questions.
Let's do it.
So I want to fly through these and then, uh, I actually have to, uh, I have to
leave here with my wife and bring a car.
I just remembered to, uh, her, her Atlas is getting some work done.
Oh, we just got to get that done.
So let's run through these.
So Callahan says, what are you guys bringing to Alan?
And we did go over that.
I'm bringing an Atlas and Danny's bringing his truck.
Hopefully.
Yeah.
No poking.
No love says, um, oh shit.
Man, if you fucking hit this the wrong way, it goes away.
And I try to hit more because there's, there we go.
Um, he said driving a slow car fast is the move.
I don't know, uh, if it's an age thing, but it's such a blast.
I personally couldn't agree more.
Yes.
Um, we love driving slow cars fast.
That's like what we do.
It's so dumb because like we're doing these bills or a thousand dollars on an
engine or whatever.
All right.
You take a, all right to get 15 extra horsepower out of the 90 horsepower car.
Anyway, say you've got like, you put all this money to your engine, you got 200
horsepower and like you're trying to keep up with the 300 horse power minivans
that are just passing by on the highway.
You're just trying to keep up with daily, daily traffic.
Hundreds of like, you know, that Kia, whatever car that's twin turbo.
It's got 450 horsepower.
Like you're not going to keep up with that guy.
It's not, it's not for them.
It's for you.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Slow cars fast are fantastic.
Auto bond 76 says fancy coming over to the UK and doing the show,
recording at old timer, Treffen.
I mean, yes, we would love to be awesome.
Um, uh, Avant Realtor says, do you guys plan on hitting any shows in New
England this year?
Yes, we do.
We plan on hitting all of them, but then a bunch of things get in the way.
Then life happens and smacks us in the face.
So even this weekend, it might be hard to get to some of these shows we want to.
Um, we will see how that all works.
Uh, type 17 says favorite OEM plus touches.
Oh man, that's a, that's a loaded question.
Um, I, I loves, I personally love like an OEM plus.
I don't like stuff that's super, super over the top crazy.
And that's not true all the time.
I guess.
Yeah.
There's certain builds that deserve that.
Um, but what's just an OEM plus?
I mean, you know,
I have for like my B five and a half a sock.
Yeah.
I've got the original vote text from bumper with the grills.
Um, I got a rear apron and I keep tossing idea back and forth about like
putting that those parts on.
And obviously for certain reasons, well, I don't want to ruin these parts,
but also I think like a B five and a half a sock with like W eight specific
parts and like the vote text kit, that car is such an OEM plus look.
Dude, when you, when I hear OEM plus, I tend to think mark, mark four era.
Sure.
And maybe that's just because of like, like you said, like you talk like
vortex parts, even like a mark six or, or B fives or whatever.
Um, to me, it's like slightly lowered, maybe a little bit fancier wheels,
but even like OEM wheels, that's kind of like the thing.
And then like, you know, maybe body modifications that aren't, you know,
only us morons are like, oh, that's sick.
You know what I mean?
Right.
If, if you're pulling into a normal, like if you're pulling into your work
and nobody notices, you've done something right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Exactly.
Because like these are parts that, you know, you could be the order
through Volkswagen or came from the factory, you know, on other cars
and you just swap them over.
Um, if you look at a lot, a lot of the Europe stuff, like only
in plus European look for a mark three, get that kind of, you know, those
look, those parts here.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Um, there's a lot.
I think only in plus is such a great look on a car.
It is.
And it, it's very like encompassing of a lot of things.
It's very subtle too, because look, your B6 Passat that you had, they
had the, um, vote text kit on that.
Yep.
It was very subtle, but it was, it was good looking.
The mark five vote text kit, not the Thunder Bunny kit, but like the regular
Mark five lip and side skirts and re-raping, you know, love the Thunder
Bunny kit though.
No, Thunder Bunny kit is fantastic.
And is that OEM plus?
Absolutely.
I do.
Definitely.
Um, okay.
Connor McCann says, do we need to keep Heather off of the porch swing
this year?
Oh my God.
So if, if people don't remember, um, Connor almost broke Heather's leg in half.
And, uh, he was broke Heather in half.
Yeah.
They were both on a porch swing and, uh, it ripped out of the, out of the,
the eyeballs ripped out of the wood.
Yeah.
And, uh, he went down pretty good.
And of course that pale motherfucker bruised all up.
Oh man.
Luckily he didn't have to like seek, you know, medical attention for that.
Like some other times he may have.
Yes.
Um, yeah, that was definitely not rated for what that swing was.
It was very well, the swing should have, they should have used some different
hardware.
Yeah.
So definitely like, yeah, some beefier hardware.
Um, I wonder if that swing will be either intact, like a new swing this year,
or there's going to just be normal furniture that's on the ground.
Yeah.
You know, all right.
Uh, what else we got?
Shwebby says, uh, Mark one through three race car talk and how we could
collectively resurrect eight valve performance.
That would be cool.
I mean, Mark James is, is like trying to record, resurrect that kind of performance
all the time.
So I would say my one of the most, my favorite Volkswagen engines was probably
out of the Mojave beige car.
It's a one six gasser.
Yeah.
And I just absolutely love that power plant.
It is peppy.
It is like, it literally does have, it's like a torquey little engine.
Does it have a ton of power?
Absolutely not.
But what a fucking blast that cars to drive jet anytime you could sell it back to me.
But, um, yeah, dude, uh, all about the eight valve performance.
And everyone, if everyone started building eight valves to bring to
tracks all over the place, we would be in a better world.
It'd be fantastic.
We're looking at like all these like 2000 horsepower Camaro's and whatever LS cars.
And then you bring like 150 horsepower eight valve hundred percent.
And you're having fun again.
Slow car fast.
Yes.
For Volkswagen ears podcast says current VW scene trends that you love and hate.
Um, I think kind of talked about like some of the hate with the builds that are
seen builds, click builds or shit.
Uh, I still hate the smushed cars and they're still around.
I don't know why I fucking hate two step.
That's still around.
I don't know why.
Yeah, it's still prevalent.
Some people are still building stance cars.
And I personally, I just don't get it.
A lot of people have moved over more back to like drivable cars.
Yeah.
And like, you know, um, there's been a much larger push, I think, too.
A little bit more track focused cars.
That's what it seems like to me.
Yeah.
Like looking at like the Subaru's and Honda's is a lot more track focused.
Yeah.
Uh, builds, which is cool.
A hundred percent.
Um, VW gave says best Volkswagen wagon.
And why is it the B five Passat?
He just recently picked up a B five Passat.
So shout out to him for that.
Um, honestly, I do have to agree that I think the B five B five and a half
platform is the best wagon because all will drive one a turbo.
Um, manual, like it's an Audi.
It's a, it's a, it's a great platform with the Volkswagen badge.
I mean, sure.
Yes.
I mean, it is, it is, but no, no, it's a good platform.
I, I tend to think a VR B three wagon is very cool.
I think, I think, I mean, obviously we didn't get many of them, but
synchros are awesome.
Yeah.
Um, their friend, that's, that's my bread and butter, so to speak.
Like I love the synchro Passat wagon that I have.
Um, sport wagons are cool.
Sport wagons are cool.
TDI wagons, but I think even, even like, I don't know, I go back to the
B five and a half for myself.
I know you do.
All right.
So German bomber has one for us.
Oh boy.
It's either bring back gone forever or go every year for life.
Okay.
Okay.
So we either have show and go, H2O or water fest, all from O five era.
So, okay.
I'll say it again.
We're either bringing it back gone forever or go every year for life.
We have show and go H2O water fest.
What do you say?
Bring it back, show and go gone forever's water fest and H2O for life.
I couldn't agree more.
Dude.
And thinking that was tough for a second because water fest was a great show back
in its heyday, but the reason why I'd rather do show and go then water fest,
because it was a thousand degrees on the fucking asphalt in the middle of
July, it was awful.
That was just not fun.
Show and go in a spring and fall was fantastic.
Everything you said is exactly what I would have just said.
Awesome.
Uh, Bill Stagan says, whatever happened to the promised land car.
And I think he meant car show that we used to do.
Why hasn't that happened again?
Yeah.
We used to kind of put together like a big get together that was like 50, 60 cars.
It was out and, uh, you know what, dude, like we, I should put that back together
and do a little cruise from that.
I want to, uh, maybe we'll make that happen.
You have a new brewery opening up in our area and we could do a brew cruise.
Maybe it'll happen within the next year or so.
Yeah.
Um, Wolfsburg says we'd love to record an episode with bears cars, 40s and Wolfsburgs
three great local events.
They are three great local events.
Um, we don't know if we'll ever be able to put that all together, but, um,
everyone should go out and support all of those shows.
Um, Justin Weisskopf says, are you guys going to low show this year?
Um, I want to try to get to low show.
Um, it's such a tough time for my family because it's right in the beginning
when school starts, anything else.
And, um, we'll see.
I want to get down there for it because they do have a lot of cool stuff happening.
Um, they're the anniversary of the Holocaust, the anniversary of the VR six motor.
There's a lot of cool things that they're putting together.
Oh, pvw anniversary.
Nice.
Uh, rabbit dropping says, what's good with this weather?
Dude, what's good with rabbit droppings?
I got, I was talking to him and shout to him for getting the image wheels back on
on the 78 white rabbit that you had.
Yeah, those are like the car.
Yeah.
Uh, so I had those wheels on the car years ago and then, and Garrett saw that car.
And that's the car that Garrett fell in love with.
Garrett eventually bought that car off of a guy that I sold that car to Garrett.
Now has an 07 K swap in it and he just re-bought the exact.
I mean, those were my, my wheels that were sold and then sold.
And then he just bought them back and he put them with the car and he's got it
running just like in the last day or two.
And, uh, good for him, man.
I can't wait for the car to be back out.
That's awesome.
Um, Frosty beat says, if you had one day to cruise any road in the world with any
car, what would it be?
Man, I know those are so tough.
Geez.
Uh,
this, that's tough.
To me, it'd probably be like fast, super big, sweepy roads somewhere.
And we can talk about your all the bond.
Yeah.
But like everyone says the auto bond.
Like I don't want to go straight.
Yeah.
But like I'm talking like somewhere in the Alps or something, something where I'd
be up and down like some beautiful mountains that have snow peaks on them.
Somewhere in Europe, what would it be in?
Even like, I don't know.
Even like Pacific coast highway in California.
Dude, I've never been on that road.
So I don't know.
You see such great views from that.
Yeah.
But is it like you're stuck in traffic all the time?
I think, I mean, can you actually cruise?
Maybe.
I think you can, when you get into the mountains up there, you can cruise.
Um, that would be a really cool car.
What would you, what would you drive in?
I think it would have to be a, a portion.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I thought you were going to go like old muscle or something.
No, for a car, a car, a road like that.
I'd like to have like a Porsche DG3 just to have for, you know, those kind of roads.
And I would go with a, if I'm, if I'm going to say it on the Porsche side too.
Yeah.
I'd go some mountain roads in Europe in a nine, six, four turbo.
Sure.
Fuck it.
Or nine, nine, three.
I would love a nine and three to do a three, six turbo and one of those.
Webby works says, if you had to keep a Volkswagen completely stock forever,
could you do it?
No, I wouldn't want to.
I couldn't do it.
Yeah.
That's kind of like, not what we do.
Yeah.
Cause I've tried to be like, what car stock I would want to keep.
The car would be a mark for R32 if I had to, because it's, it's so daily
drivable, but still yet to me, so fun.
And if you're keeping it completely stock, once you go over certain RPM,
the flapper mod happens.
Wait, well, all right.
So going back to the golf limited, that would be a car I would keep stock.
That'd be fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah, that'd be cool, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
Iron and adventure says back in the Volkswagen scene after many years,
where are you finding cool wheels nowadays?
There's a lot of places on social media, like if there are rare wheels.
Yeah, there's also places on eBay.
Yeah.
If you're looking for specific, like BBS specific, there's BBS ones.
There's comp-a-motive specific stuff.
Like there's, yeah, there's all kinds of stuff out there marketplace.
Obviously there's certain specific like that Kevin, blah, blah, blah,
whatever numbers it is.
And he does like all the RS builds.
He's constantly doing BMW.
Old timer wheels.
Yeah.
I mean, there's retro wheels.
Yep.
Retro wheels.
We had him on.
What was the one I bought those last BBS from like a while back?
M-M-Coochie or something?
Fucking my coochie wheels.
Whatever it is, dude.
There's a lot of people out there.
Oh, geez.
J-Dubb's Audi says, what is the best part about driving an old Volkswagen?
The best part, honestly, is how people look at you like you're fucking crazy.
I love that.
I feel also like the best part is like disconnecting from the norm.
Like we're normal people.
Because these were normal cars.
Yeah.
Like people just getting in an old normal car.
It's just a normal car.
It's not normal to anyone now.
Right.
People do look at you like you're driving it.
Yeah.
Right.
Yes.
What's the problem here?
Right.
Exactly.
B-John 99 says, I need motivation.
This weather is improving.
But so is construction season.
Ugh, dude.
So that is like our season.
It's only winter or construction.
It's summer.
Little bit of fall winter construction.
Those are the seasons we have.
He just kind of like gave me a flashback where if you've ever been in a slammed car
and then you have someone that's literally doing like a cutaway for new pavement
because the road was so bad.
But there's a four inch lift.
Yeah.
After you go over the gravel and you get to the other side when you have to then
they haven't like ramped it up yet and they just have a fucking slow
or caution sign, some dickheads holding.
And you're like, oh, I can't make that.
Right.
My oil paint is not going to survive this.
Oh, that's so funny.
Twisted Ginger says, do you prefer back roads or highways when on a road trip?
Back roads, 100 percent.
Definitely back roads.
Highway, yes, to get you there faster.
It's awful driving highway for extended period of time.
Yeah.
Um, Uggie Boo Boo says, make a three song playlist of songs you were
into when the Volkswagen scene was peak.
Interesting.
That's not going to work for me.
Why?
I'll say like some so stupid.
And then people just like, what are you talking about, dude?
Just like, all right, because you're in the heavy.
They're like, weird shit, like say three hardcore heavy band, metal bands,
stuff that you like back in the early 2000s.
Yeah, but.
I, I mean, I'm trying to go more like relatable, right?
So what are we talking about here?
To, to us, what would you say the peak Volkswagen like scene was?
Oh, wait, early to mid 2000s.
I would say like, oh, wait.
Okay.
So I would say 2000s in general, beginning to the end, like end of 2000s.
Yeah.
Oh, wait, it was probably a really good peak time to say.
So what, what was even out in the way?
See, my mind doesn't go to like the time period of that music at that time.
You're just still probably like what a lot of people think of their high school.
Okay.
So like, what is that?
M83, Midnight City.
So that's, that's, yeah.
So like that's a song that I would think of that song is also is Volkswagen.
Oh, absolutely.
That's exactly what that's because it's like the wagon works like that whole thing.
Right.
Like those in the videos that they would, um, that they put on, like, you know,
the, the after shows, you know, videos, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
The ACO shit.
And then that song was pinnacle of that time.
That's definitely a song that I would think of.
That's off the top of my head.
Um, kids by management.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's another one, I would think.
Um, I, I don't know, dude.
I really don't know.
Tchaikovsky.
Tchaikovsky, piano, concerto, number three.
No.
Oh, um, night call, uh, Kavinsky night call.
That's another song I kind of like grab it.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Um, okay.
All right.
Cool.
Yeah.
Um, Weebie Jammin says widened slash.
Banded steelies.
Where would you spend your wheels?
Where would you send your wheels to be widened in the U S?
Dude, anybody you reached out to on four texts back in the day that said, I, I
widened steelies.
Yeah.
Um, I, there's a lot of companies that, um, I, I mean, I don't know if top my head.
Yeah.
Cause I've never actually sent anything out to get widened.
Um, but anyone that's good at welding can probably set you up with a, you know,
wide and steely cotton weld.
It's something you don't hear about anymore.
You don't like who, who's sending out steelies to anybody getting widened.
And I mean, what a cool look it used to be.
But like, yeah, cause again, like you're looking at like people that are buying
stuff that's off the shelf more so than doing something like that.
Yeah.
You know, yeah.
Um, that was such a great look.
Now it matter of, it was a 13, 14, 15 inch steely, 16 inch for mark four.
And now, and now I feel like it's kind of gone into the, you know, the whole
space where like people are cutting wheels down, making them like a three
piece, extensive three piece build.
Yes.
Which is awesome.
Yeah, it is just, it's just different.
Yeah.
I don't really have an answer for you, man.
I don't know.
Um, that's tough.
Yeah.
J.
Dubs Audi also says what, oh, I guess I already read that one.
And twisted ginger.
Did I read that one?
Yes, yes, I did.
So that's all the questions we have.
I cannot believe it ran an hour and a half because I thought this one was
going to be like 30 minutes.
Um, yeah, twisted gender though for PS projects.
Um, he just picked up a, it's what's on my wagons.
Yeah.
Um, a three six four motion, uh, B six Passat wagon that he's going to use
to swap out of, but that's another great wagon.
I wish it came in automatic, not that wish it didn't come in automatic.
Which was a manual because that would be, if that was a manual wagon, that
would be probably on top of my list as the best Volkswagen wagon.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Well, everybody, thanks for listening.
Once again, um, and you know, in a couple of weeks from now, we'll put
out another podcast.
Uh, thanks for listening and share the podcast with your buddies.
Other than that, we will catch you next time.
Later.
About this episode
Ryan and Danny kick things off with “Farmer Ryan” chicken/duck updates, then pivot into VW show-season planning and a cautionary tale about a Mark 6 wagon crash on a curvy road. They trade marketplace notes on Spectrum Color cars, discuss why some limited parts make insurance totals brutal, and give a shoutout to local builders and shops. The biggest deep dive is transmission talk for a Synchro swap—why sticking with an o2o can still work—and a long discussion on social media’s impact on car culture. They wrap with a packed Q&A covering OEM+ tastes, rare VW values, and upcoming events like Helen/Alpine pre-2k.
We talked about Danny putting his truck together for Helen, how there are tons of events coming up, and how we should all unplug from the crazy for a bit. Check it!
