The Audi RS6 is a fast, performance-focused Audi that’s still practical enough to drive every day. Here, they’re talking about the 2021 RS6 specifically—especially its twin-turbo V8 and all-wheel drive.
This means the car has a V8 engine (eight cylinders) and two turbochargers. The turbos help the engine make more power, especially when you accelerate.
All-wheel drive means power goes to more than one set of wheels. It helps the car grip the road better, especially in bad weather or low-traction conditions.
“X drive” is BMW’s all-wheel-drive system. The point they’re making is that some people leave it in AWD most of the time, even if there’s a way to switch behavior to feel more like rear-wheel drive.
A burnout is when you spin the tires on purpose, usually to heat them up or make smoke. They’re saying people only use rear-wheel-drive mode for stunts like that.
Wheel size matters because it changes the tire shape. With very large wheels (like 22-inch), the tire sidewalls are thinner, and the tires can cost more and be harder to find.
That “285” is a tire size number that describes how wide the tire is. Wider tires can grip better, but they can also be more expensive and harder to find.
A dyno is a machine that measures how much power a car makes. “Heartbreaker dyno” is slang for a dyno that’s known for giving different (often lower) numbers than other dynos.
The Ford Mustang is a sports car from Ford that’s known for being powerful and popular with car enthusiasts. People often measure its performance on a dyno to see how much horsepower it makes. In the episode, it’s mentioned in the context of those performance numbers.
A Mustang dyno is a specific type of power-testing machine used by many shops. The exact number can change depending on the dyno setup, so it’s best to compare tests done the same way.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made by Chevrolet that’s built to be fast. The podcast is talking about the C6 generation, which is one specific version of the Corvette. It’s mentioned in a racing-style conversation, where people compare how cars perform.
A sequential transmission is a racing-style gearbox where you shift through gears in order. Instead of choosing any gear like a normal pattern, you go step-by-step, which can make shifts faster and more consistent.
The Shelby GT500 is a very powerful version of the Ford Mustang made for performance. The episode mentions it in the context of driving it at a track event. That’s why it’s brought up—because it’s a car people use when they want real speed and handling.
The GT 500 is a super-fast Mustang. It’s the kind of car people take to events and tracks, and here it’s mentioned as the last time the host drove a car like that.
Coilovers are adjustable suspension units that combine a coil spring and shock absorber in one assembly. Enthusiasts use them to lower the car, fine-tune ride height, and adjust handling characteristics for street or track driving.
Delayed gratification means waiting instead of buying or doing something right away. With cars, it can mean saving up so you can get the one you really want.
It means the first upgrades you do help a lot, but later upgrades get more expensive for smaller and smaller gains. Eventually, you pay a lot just to get a little bit better.
Pro Stock is a type of drag racing where cars are built to be extremely consistent and fast. In this world, the timing is so precise that tiny improvements can matter a lot.
Rallying is racing that happens in stages over different road surfaces. Instead of a fixed track, the route changes and the conditions can be very different each time.
Group B was a famous rally racing category known for very extreme, high-powered rally cars. People still talk about it because it was such a wild and iconic era of rallying.
Drag racing is racing in a straight line where cars try to reach the finish as fast as possible. It’s easy to follow because it’s basically about who accelerates quickest.
In drag racing, people use times like “six seconds” to describe how fast a car runs. A “six-second build” means the car is built to be extremely quick—fast enough to hit that kind of time on the track.
Concept
start and finish line
Drag racing is measured from the start to the finish. The time matters because it tells you how quickly the car covered the track.
Streetcar classes are race categories meant for cars that are closer to what you’d actually drive on the street. The rules usually limit how extreme the build can be so the competition is more even.
Racing rule books are the official regulations that define what modifications are allowed and how cars must be built and operated. As teams find loopholes (“cheats”), governing bodies update the rules to close them, which is why regulations can keep evolving.
Concept
club TR and club SC
These terms likely mean different competition categories at the event. They usually decide what kinds of cars can race and what rules they have to follow.
A “class limit” is a rule that caps a specific dimension or spec for a category of cars. Here, the discussion implies a turbo-related measurement limit (58 mm) and that someone exceeded it (61 mm), which would be considered cheating if the rules are enforced.
“Gray area” means something that might not be clearly against the rules, but still feels wrong. In racing, it often refers to loopholes people use to gain an advantage.
Concept
letter of the law vs. spirit of the law
This is about whether people follow the rules exactly as written, or whether they follow the intent of the rules. “Gray area” usually means exploiting loopholes without technically breaking the wording.
Haltech makes aftermarket electronics for car tuning. Here, they’re talking about a device that helps connect a modern engine computer to certain GM transmissions.
A transmission interface is like a translator between the transmission and a new computer. It helps the car’s electronics talk to each other correctly.
A standalone ECU is the car’s main computer for controlling the engine. Instead of using the factory computer, you use an aftermarket one that you can tune more freely.
The Ford Ranger is a pickup truck that’s smaller than full-size trucks but still made for work and hauling. The podcast mentions a “pre-runner” style, which usually means it’s set up to handle rough roads better. It’s being talked about for its off-road look and build.
Car
2001 Harley Davidson Sportster 1200 C
This is a Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200 from 2001. The idea is to use it as a starting point to build a custom “chopper,” which usually involves changing a lot of the bike’s look and parts.
A chopper is a custom motorcycle style. People usually modify the frame and suspension to make it look and ride the way they want—often with a very stripped-down, old-school look.
A hardtail is a motorcycle setup where the rear suspension is removed and replaced with a rigid frame section. That changes how the bike absorbs bumps and typically gives the chopper/café-custom look the host is aiming for.
Ape hangers are tall handlebars that sit way up high. They change both how the bike looks and how you sit and steer.
Term
rabbit ear handlebars
Rabbit ear handlebars are a custom handlebar shape where the ends curve up like little ears. It’s mainly a style choice, but it also affects how you hold the bars.
A peanut gas tank is a small, rounded fuel tank shape used on many custom bikes. It’s mostly about the look, and it’s a common choice for chopper-style builds.
A king and queen seat is a two-part seat for the rider and passenger. It’s a common custom-bike style because it looks traditional and gives each person their own seating shape.
Land speed racing is when someone tries to drive as fast as possible on a long, straight, measured course. The car is built and tuned for going extremely fast in a straight line, not for turning.
A ProCharger is a device that forces extra air into the engine so it can make more power. It’s like an add-on that helps the engine “breathe” harder for faster acceleration and higher top-end power.
The Dodge Charger is a car made by Dodge that can be built for high performance. In the episode, they’re talking about a very modified Charger with a supercharger setup to make a lot of power. That’s why it’s mentioned—because it’s not a stock car anymore.
Underground Racing makes aftermarket performance parts. In this context, “manifolds” are special engine parts that help route gases to the turbo/supercharger system so the engine can make more power.
A drive shaft is a rotating part that sends power from the gearbox toward the wheels. Here it’s mentioned to describe how tightly packaged and exposed the drivetrain can be in record cars.
Nitrous bottles contain a gas that can be injected into the engine to make it produce more power. It’s often used for short, intense bursts rather than everyday driving.
A wheel-driven car is one that moves by turning its wheels with the engine. The speaker is saying that record attempts can also be done with jet/thrust setups, and wheel-driven cars are a different challenge.
An F1 car is a top-level race car from Formula 1. The speaker is basically saying that even if you’re confident, the forces in an F1-style car are so intense that it would be hard on your body.
A demolition derby is a race where cars crash on purpose. The goal is usually to keep going when other cars get wrecked, and it can be pretty dangerous.
Street Outlaws is a TV show about drag racing. The hosts mention it because an accident happened in one of the episodes.
Concept
speed boat
They’re talking about very fast boats built for top speed. When you go that quick, the water behaves like a rough surface that can make things feel dangerous.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a sports car from Chevrolet, usually a two-door coupe. The podcast mentions it because someone has (or has had) a Camaro and is talking about cars in general. It’s brought up as part of that lineup discussion.
The Golf is a compact car that’s made for everyday driving. The podcast mentions a GTD and suspension, which means they’re talking about a version that’s set up to feel more sporty. It’s brought up because it can be a normal car but still be fun to drive.
Suspension geometry is how the suspension parts are positioned and angled. It matters because it changes how the tires stay planted when you hit bumps, brake, or turn.
Concept
setups to run
A “setup” is the combination of suspension choices you pick for how you want the car to drive. It’s not just one part—usually you tune several things together.
The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car from Porsche. The podcast mentions a GT4, which is a more track-focused version of the 911 line. It’s brought up because people often talk about which specific 911 model they mean.
“992” is Porsche’s internal name for a specific generation of the 911. The host is saying they drove the newer 911 generation (the 992) and it felt very precise on track.
A quarter mile is a standard straight-line race distance. The speaker is using it to talk about how fast the car goes on a straight before switching back to cornering.
The Porsche 911 Turbo S is the more “do-everything” fast 911. The host is saying it’s great for everyday use and straight-line speed, while the GT3 is for corners.
Steel pads means the normal type of brake pads used with standard steel brake parts. The speaker is saying the quote depends on whether the car has the more expensive ceramic brake system.
Rotors are the metal discs your brakes squeeze to slow the car down. “Steel rotors” just means they’re made from steel, which is usually a more affordable material.
The Mazda RX-7 is a sports car made by Mazda that uses a special type of engine called a rotary. In the episode, they’re saying they used to drive it more regularly, but now it’s more of a show car. That’s why it comes up—because it’s a distinctive enthusiast car.
The Ferrari F8 Tributo is a sports car made by Ferrari. It’s designed to be fast and fun to drive, and the engine sits behind the driver. In the episode, it’s mentioned because the speaker thinks it looks great and would choose it.
The Lamborghini Aventador is a supercar made by Lamborghini. The episode is mainly talking about how it looks and how impressive it is to see. It’s mentioned because it has a very distinctive, eye-catching design.
The McLaren P1 is a supercar known for being extremely special and visually dramatic. They’re talking about it mainly as a looks-and-wow-factor comparison.
The Ferrari SF90 Stradale is a hybrid Ferrari supercar—part gas, part electric. They’re saying it’s a great car and that it also has surprisingly usable interior space.
The McLaren Senna is a very hardcore McLaren supercar. They’re using it as an example of a car whose resale prices stayed relatively stable compared to other expensive supercars.
The Porsche Carrera GT is famous for having a big naturally aspirated V10 engine and a manual transmission. They’re praising it as an exceptional-driving supercar and comparing it to other “what if” ideas.
The Lamborghini Aventador SVJ is a very aggressive, track-oriented Lamborghini with a V12. They’re imagining it with a manual gearbox and asking whether that would make it as special as the Carrera GT.
“Naturally aspirated” means the engine makes power without a turbo or supercharger. They’re talking about a V12 that would sound and feel more “pure,” especially in a manual setup.
This is a special lighter Lamborghini Gallardo called the Superleggera. The big point here is that some versions came with a manual transmission, and that’s part of why people value them more.
The Lamborghini Gallardo is a high-end supercar made by Lamborghini. The episode mentions the Superleggera version and that some were available with a manual transmission. It’s being talked about because those details matter to people who like to drive and collect cars.
“F1 transmission” here means a gearbox that shifts like a race car using paddles, but it’s not a normal automatic. The speaker is saying it doesn’t feel as good as a real manual.
Car
Lamborghini Murciélago
The Murciélago is Lamborghini’s older V12 supercar. In this conversation, it matters because some versions came with a manual gearbox, and that’s treated as the better option.
The BMW M5 is a powerful BMW sedan from BMW’s performance division. The speaker is imagining it in a garage with other supercars.
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I like being involved in the local scene and there's a lot of cool stuff that goes on here too.
I guess we put it that way. The first 90, literally the first 100 are almost all local.
I know. And then you started going to PRI, SEMA, Texas 2K. You just traveled for the sake of it
and you just hit up people and be like, hey, I'm going to be around. Who can I talk to?
And I think that's what this last 100 was and it'll be interesting to see where the next 100
put you. I literally have an Excel sheet of like bucket list guests like in various states and
there's probably like 20 states that are still empty. I haven't figured out who to have on next.
But California, so you were attending to cars and coffee stuff there literally every other weekend
pretty much all the time. Yeah. I mean, I had the G80 out there and then now I have a
big news. I got my dream car. I got checked off the daily. I got an Audi RS6. Oh, I was like,
what is that? 2021 Audi RS6. Look back on the episode. I think it was with Charles and ghost
media, those guys in Texas when we first started it and I said my pick for a daily would be an
Audi RS6. That's right. That's when we introduced the pick three as well. And that's still stuck
around. I've thought about changing it so many times, but it's just it's hard to get rid of.
Yeah. Like it's such a perfect question. It truly is a dream car. It's filled every box.
So RS6 or G80? RS6. I take it over the G80 every any day. Why is it so much better than a G80?
I think it's just a little bit more refined with the V8 twin turbo makes 600 crank and then
it's all wheel drive. So it's you can drive it anywhere all year round.
Well, that's your mistake on the G80 though. You got you got the rear wheel drive one. No,
that's not a mistake. That is on purpose. And it's I think it's more fun with a
M car should be a rear wheel driven. Fair enough. And plus like all the guys that get X drive,
they say, oh, I can I can put it in rear wheel drive mode, but they never do like they never
do. Yeah, they've never done it once besides like maybe to like do a burnout. And then they're like,
never again, because that was scary. Like, like you put in you drive a rear wheel drive car,
you learn how to drive that car. Fair. You know, it's kind of like a no, no cheats, no aid.
You know, you really get to know the car a little bit better. But I think the one downside
with the Audi RS6 is the 22 inch wheels. That is way too big for OEM.
Are they 22 inch stock? They're 22 inch rims. That's crazy. You need 22 inch tires. And they're
like this thick, like just rubber bands probably expensive on the tire front. Yeah, it is. Yeah,
285 widths all around. They're impossible to find. And it's I'd slowly downside of the car.
The G80 was easier to source tires. Yeah, 20s. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Unless you do a setup like mine,
which is you do 18s in the rear, 19s in the front. But that's that's if you like putting down big
power. Yeah. And I mean, to be fair, that car was no slouch. You were making 890, I think.
890. Yeah, right around 900 on the on a heartbreaker dyno. Was that on a Mustang dyno?
Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. It was? Yeah. Oh, damn. Okay. Yeah, that wasn't too shabby. You had a
lot of fun power cruises in that. Well, actually, no, I rode with you in that. That one. Yeah,
the first year, I think you had that thing. That was a sketchy. Because there's a lot of stuff
going on. That was a I got a race against Kyle in his Oh, that's right. C6 is year one. Yeah.
He Mollie Wopt me, but that's okay. I'll give it to him. I lived I lived the dream that that summer.
Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy, man. Like, obviously, you know, kind of like, I don't even know how to
say it. But RIP, Kyle, we miss you and we love you. I did have the pleasure of meeting him and
hanging out with him at PRI, which was really cool. He's actually a big reason that I really
just jumped into this job that I got as well. Like, obviously, I'm doing the monoxide thing.
Pretty much like it's pretty much on you can't tell that I have a day job, typically from the
outside looking in. But like, he's a big reason I jumped into this, especially after talking to him
over dinner at PRI, which is really sweet. Wow. Yeah. So that's kind of like that's I feel
everybody in this industry has a Kyle story. Yeah. Like when I opened Facebook the other day,
everybody had something, man. Yeah. Like, and my little small sliver of an experience doesn't
even compare to like what he did for like so many people. Like it's, I somebody said like,
you I don't think there's anybody like more influential in the automotive industry like
truly like Paul Walker. I mean, it is a bold claim. Like when you think about like, you know,
Ken Block. Yeah. I put him up there with with the great. But what about when it comes to like
personal experiences, though? Personal experience, right? Like think about like how many people
he's had conversations with? I'm sure Ken Block has had lots of conversations. True. I'm Paul Walker
same. Yeah. Like those guys are they they were true car enthusiasts just as much as Kyle was,
you know, they might have not been around like the same circles as we are in. But yeah, you know,
true. That's just the, you know, the wide scope of our our little club. It's it reaches from
everywhere from, you know, off-roading to, you know, drag racing to circuits to F1. Like it
literally goes in four axis of directions. He's definitely on the Mount Rushmore though has to
be right. Yeah. Like how big is that Mount Rushmore? Like when you think about like
well, there's only room for one more. Yeah. But like it's like Jeremy Clarkson.
Yeah. Well, somebody made one of those mean like Facebook pages the other day made a post
like it's like we're all inspired by like some bald guy that talks about family.
And then there was like two other ones I'm blanking on or whatever. Oh, some British like
three British guys and then whatever the third one was. Oh, like, oh, some talking car movie.
That's what I was. So it's like, yeah, no, it's like when you think about then there's also like
when you think about Fast and Furious as well, you still have, I think his name is his actual name
Sung Han. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It is. Okay. Like, I always forget like, you get the movie name and
then the real name and it's like, like he's out there. I think he's doing a podcast in Amelia
or whatever or something like that. He just had a car show in California. Yeah. I wasn't able to go
to it, but it was like right in the city next to me. I wish I could have gone, but I was on kid
duty. So it would have been a little hard. I know more and more of my friends are becoming
more on kid duty. And I'm just like, man, I'm falling behind over here. But it's okay. We got a
podcast. That's that's your baby. That's gonna I sometimes I do wonder what's gonna be on my
gravestone. Like, like, who's in charge? Like, who is in charge of writing that? Like I like
if you don't have somebody that you trust to do it for you, then you have to do it yourself. You
have to write it. Really? Yeah. That's kind of like, I don't know. Like, oh, I want this. Yeah. You
better be real humble when you're writing that headstone. In case anybody hasn't picked up on
this, there's really no not much of a game plan here besides just recapping kind of what's happened
in the last 33 and a half years. Like there's been a lot of trips, like,
truthfully like a trip or two every single month, like, so, so many events, like I just got to attend
my first grid life. That was kind of sick. Like, which I really I kind of wish I went to Atlanta,
but like, tickets were way too outrageously expensive short term. But like, that is such a
cool event too. You've done road rallies, you've done road courses, but you haven't really attended
many events yet, have you? No. And that's only that, you know, I was kind of cut down in my prime
when I moved, like we were just starting to do a lot more events instead of like doing rallies
or, you know, just here and there, like track events, like local, like you started going to
Road America, you're doing grid life, you traveled, you started traveling once I kicked you out.
You got to let the baby bird lead the nest. Yeah, I guess if I had didn't move, we might
have still be in the studio. And I don't think so. I think we probably would have picked up on
like the whole, like, let's, let's just go around. Like that's what happened with Venom
rally, right? Like back in the day before, like I used to do the two day event, which was team
stance out. This is going way back in Minoxide lore, like nobody knows this pretty much. But
like I originally had a car group called team stance out, whether you had a truck or a stancy
boy car, you could do it all, right? Like that was kind of the thought process like involve
everybody. And we did like 12 day event. I think we had 11 people sign up,
nine cars showed up and we went to this middle of bum fuck nowhere, Iowa, eighth mile racetrack.
And then you were an OG in that as well. Oh, yeah. Like this was like, like truthfully,
like you're as OG as it gets on in Minoxide lore, like even like from the photographer days, but
like I had a conversation with Doug at the time, my business partner, and we were talking like,
man, we got to do three day events. Like we can't just think local. We got to think
national, mystic global, mystic worldwide, you know, like, and then we were the first rally,
I think to go to a pike's peak at the time between the local ones, because I think crown rally did
like, I think a month or two after us, but like nobody ever did the Minneapolis to Denver route,
which is a okay route. I mean, as soon as you hit the black hills, it's it's eight hours up to
that where it only goes up from there. Literally, like it's just planes. Like basically, once you
pass that anybody has driven west, like up north, no, it was like the second you passed like that
big massive river or whatever is over there, and you like crest this beautiful hill,
then you start seeing a shrub, like an extra shrub every few miles, and then it turns into
like the black hills, and then you rip that through like pass Mount Rushmore and all these like
little. Yeah, that was cool. Where was I going with the whole rally thing? Oh, the whole Mr.
Worldwide thing. Like, yeah, we probably at some point would have been like, all right,
let's travel, right? Because like, we both had a decent a bit of free time. Yeah. Or we were flexible
back then. I was way more flexible back then. Yeah. Well, yeah, that was one of the things that
you said too is like, what am I going to do when I come back to Minnesota, just stay home? It's like,
no, like there's there's plenty to do. But no, I think the show has evolved a ton since then.
Like it's I just so much like I still have such a long list of types of car enthusiasts. I want
to get on like I still have yet to talk to anybody that's built the trophy truck. Yeah. I'm yet to
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I don't know. I think California is next on the bucket list. I think since I haven't even been on
a track since you since since we parted ways, I guess, I think the last time I was on a track was
yeah, when I drove Dan's GT 500 at the at the Brainerd event that you were in town for.
Yeah, so that's going to be kind of like the next evolution of Minoxide. I feel like I really
am excited to do like this before and after on these coilovers, which is going to be sweet.
Yeah, like I'm actually starting like I don't if you're this far into the episode, which I can
just hear people falling like crickets at this point, but it's like actually having done almost
200 interviews, I never modified my own car. Like I put a diffuser on the last one, which was like
two wood screws. But like, you know, then I started working at CarPlay and it's like they
had these like end links that were for MQBs, which is my platform of choice at the moment,
my daily. And it's like I put a sway bar and end links on. It's like small little clap. Like
yay, you did like a 20 minute install, you know, hey, it's the small things that matter.
And I think for you, you know, you've never really invested in the tools or the equipment to like
do modifications. So like, you know, anytime, like when you had to install the diffuser,
you came to me to know the diffuser I did in my drive, like in my I remember I was
laying on the garage and it's just literally two bolts. But like anytime I need to do an oil
change, I'll just come to you. Like you were five minutes away. I could just
could roll up on the race ramps and that was it. Like anything else, like I would probably go to
ratified. Like when I, when I, uh, when I was pissing oil everywhere, like a typical German car.
But like, you know, now it's like, all right, cool. I want to do coilovers and all this. Like
it's kind of cool. Like being on the other side of this journey where it's like, I'm actually
going to start kind of living the things that my guests have done. I'm not going to be building a
$400,000 Viper anytime soon, as much as I'd love to. Uh, unfortunately, I don't get them
sponsored dollars like that. Um, maybe one day. Vipers are just being so stupid expensive though.
Yeah. I haven't checked. I just kind of like, there's no point in me looking right now. And
it's just heartbreaking. You, you just sent me a picture of a Viper and you're like,
did you buy it? Oh yeah. The orange one. Yeah. It was a orange TA
that was going to SoCal and you were immediately thought, oh, that's Sean Speck.
Yeah. And literally going to SoCal is like, is this you?
How long is it going to happen soon? The Viper? Soon? What do you mean soon? Like
I turned 27 soon before I'm 30, at least hopefully in the next three years. No.
Oh, in the next three years? Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'd say, I'd say so. Okay.
Okay. We'll see how this shop does. Yeah, true. That's that. That's the other thing too,
is like the law. I'm a big proponent of like delayed gratification and maybe I just delay
gratification a little too much sometimes. But like, I also just like running through walls,
dude, like straight, like it's like this show, like I to this day have still not missed a week.
And I was about to and then I decided to do an episode 200 special. So like it was kind of meant
to be, but it's just crazy, man. Like how amazing this really worked out because I listened to your
podcast and I'll be listening and I'll hear you like ask a question and I'll be like, oh,
like, why, why, you just glossed over this huge thing that this guy just said, like,
no, go back into it. Like, what's the biggest flub I've had? Your biggest flub?
Yeah, like if like, what's the question I missed? Like if you're just like, I hate you,
I resent you. Does anything probably with Aaron Enthmodo and like, I just have questions that I
want to ask him all the time. And, you know, about the Viper platform, the build and,
you know, I feel like some of my questions can get like are like more specific. So it's
really hard to get there unless you're me and you're like thinking, right? Like the line of
questioning. Yeah. And so I don't know. Like sometimes like, I literally am listening and I'm
like yelling at you, hoping that it gets to you like 1500 miles away in the past. Yeah. And
in three days earlier, so you can hear how disappointed I am. Like, no, you messed up.
Like you should, you should have just kept talking about this. Yeah. You sometimes you
change subjects too quickly. And it's like, you know, maybe you could have spent 10 more minutes
talking about like Casey's GT3 cup car, because how many people are you going to talk to that has
a cup car, a Porsche cup, like, and you kind of just gloss over it. But, you know, sometimes the,
you know, the interviewee just doesn't, you know, have much to say about it. And that kind of
That is such a tough part about interviewing people sometimes is like, they live that life,
right? Like the stuff that's like so cool and advanced to us sometimes, like they're just like,
oh, yeah, you know, this, this whole thing, like it's just because they're so like numb to it,
that happens every once in a while. Yeah. On the flip side, it's sometimes it's the opposite too.
It's where it's like certain aspects, like they only know the surface level of something. So they
can kind of like introduce you to it, but they can't talk about like, oh, well, like, you know,
like, for example, one recent guys that I had on for talking about the pro stock stuff, like,
there's some stuff that he couldn't talk about, even if he didn't know it, but like, he's not the
engine builder, machining this thing, like the like, like, you like, there's a whole team behind
that. Oh, like multimillion dollar facilities. Like, dude, I did not realize like,
how much you can optimize in one direction. So like, I learned, I heard this the other day
when I was listening to a show, and it's like diminishing returns are still returns. Like,
yeah, it might cost $10,000 per horsepower once you get to those upper echelons. But like,
that's still one more horsepower than you had before. And I'm like, that is such a good point.
Like, I'm a bang for buck guy, like I'd rather just not because I can't afford it.
Yeah. But like, when you it's insane, like how much or like, when you start talking like $30,000,
like coil overs, like pens keys or something, like that's what the Calvo runs in his vipers,
I'm pretty sure is the pens key stuff insanity, or like $10,000 old lens.
Yeah. But if they shave off a 10th of a second, you're going to go for it.
Or like when you look at, again, pro stock, it's like by the 1000th of a second.
Yeah. Like I can't like you can't even comprehend like how fast and how close that is. Like,
yeah, that's just insanity. There's so many different types of motorsports out there that I
just don't think you appreciation. Like, I think I really, I really wish there was a way to like do
rallying better. Like one of the things I liked about red life is that their whole
live stream was incredible. It was the most professional live stream I've seen in my life.
Like it was like so easy to keep up like who's in first and like, where's your friend on the leader
board? And it's like, I wish they could do that for like all other sports. Like I'd love to watch
rallying if I could just turn on channel six or, you know, some seven subscriptions or whatever. But
like, are you talking about like group B? Yeah. Yeah. Like actual rally cars. Yeah. Like it'd be
so cool to just, I feel like it's just so limited. It's not easily accessible. Like even trying to
watch IMSA is kind of a pain in the ass. Yeah. Like, well, I think, and that's something I think
you were saying earlier is that you kind of want to get into like some of the more like niche
motorsports. I think you talked to, I can't remember her name. She drove monster trucks.
Oh, yeah. Casey. Yeah. Casey. Yeah. And you know, I think that that's a good line. And if you want
to keep like finding those people, like people who like do mud trucks or like, you know, down,
keep going down that path, I'm sure you'll find like, or maybe you get into people who build bikes.
Like, I've thought about the bikes thing, like the guy that owns Adams Viper now,
I don't know what's been with me the last couple of weeks. I'm just like, man, like,
it won't be too difficult to get into bikes. Like it's really low cost of entry. Yeah. Exactly.
Like, yeah, I feel like that, I don't know. And, you know, it'd just be one conversation. And then,
you know, you get introduced to a whole new world of, you know, this, you know, more sport.
Drag racing, I've only, I've said this since like, for the last like 100 something episodes,
like drag racing is the most relatable like sport though, like it transfers so easily to the
average person. And like, I mean, granted, like there was a point where I didn't know that
a 12 second car was like this and an eight second car, like the various levels. That's one of the
things I also learned through the show, like was like, just how fast a six second car is, which is
insane, which sounds stupid to say now, but like there was a point where I was just like,
okay, whatever. Like, cool, bro. Yeah, you used to be a YouTube commenter. And now you're a little
wiser. And you kind of understand the nuances of, you know, what goes into a build like that or
just, you know, what it takes from a driver, from the mechanic.
Well, it's also, it's a team game too, right? Like, there's, I've had a few people on the show
where it's like, that they don't drive the cars they build, or vice versa, they drive for somebody
else. Like, you don't always have to be the driver of your build because like you, like, financing
a six second build is insanity. But where I was going with that whole, like drag racing really
is the most relatable type of motorsport because like you could see the crowd on the other side,
everything just happened right in front of you. Like whereas like when I was at grid life at this
small track, like if somebody crashed on the other side of the trees, I didn't know. The only way I
would know is if I was watching the live stream or once I see the tow truck in 10 minutes, like
whereas drag racing, like we all kind of go, oh, yeah, you can see the start and the finish line
in 11 screen. Yeah. And then if somebody goes into the sand trap, you just get your amazing
Android, which sometimes I'm jealous of the cameras my Android friends have and just zoom
all the way in and it's like, oh, that's what happened. Oh, the car's on fire or whatever. Like,
we're all able to see that. Yeah. And it's also just relatable, like you have streetcar classes,
which to be fair, grid life does as well. Man, those rule books are freaking long though.
They just evolve, you know, because somebody just like in every other racing series,
someone figures out how to cheat and they have to write a new rule for that cheat and then just
for someone to circumvent it yet again. What's worse though, like I asked this on Facebook
a few weeks ago and I got some very interesting responses. What's worse, racing or sorry, hold
on. How did I phrase it? What's worse, cheating or snitching? Oh, it's what's worse. Well, if you
get caught cheating, that's worse because of a snitch. Yeah. Oh, because of the snitch. Right.
When I say snitch, I mean somebody who is basically who caught somebody cheating,
but like nobody else knows yet. I think if you get caught cheating, that's worse.
But don't don't be the guy to tell on somebody for cheating. You can be the guy,
especially in a competitiveness of like a series like that. But in most cases, do not snitch.
Well, like I would not snitch at grid life. Is there, is it high stakes?
It is like one of the biggest like grassroots events in the country. Like there is stakes.
Like there's, I'm not sure what the, actually, let's find out. I'm not gonna.
I've never heard of like a grid life $50,000 championship prize pool. Like they don't really
advertise, you know, versus like a grudge, grudge match for 25K or, you know, there's a
F1 series where you get paid a million dollars. Okay. I think it's per race.
Contingency programs and sponsor. Okay. So this is, okay, based on weekends,
and this is for like club TR and club SC, first place is a grand whopping $300.
Yeah. See, it's not high stakes. Don't snitch.
Right. But if somebody's cheating, like obviously like has like, you know,
bigger turbo housing or whatever, like whatever.
Well, that's not a very good cheat because the inspector just let that fly.
If the inspector is doing a good job, they should be measuring that turbo housing.
Yeah. Get a little micrometer in there. Yeah.
Like the reason, like when I posted that, I think it was because somebody did have,
I think it was like a 58 millimeter class limit and then they had like 61 or something stupid.
Like it was like, it was like just a mild advantage and then somebody knew and then basically
snitched on them and people were like, Oh my God, this guy's such a snitch. Well,
it's like, yeah, but that guy's a cheater too. So it's like, I don't know. I've always wondered,
like, I mean, I don't care. I'm not trying to get myself into that situation.
I mean, in the F1, they literally cheat almost every race and then that's gray area though.
Gray area is different than just blatant cheating.
Yeah. What? No. It's gray area.
Okay. I guess if you're, yeah, gray area where they skirt the lines of the rule.
Yeah. Well, that goes back to like, are we talking the letter of the law or the spirit of the law?
It's always done to the letter.
Right. Like if we're talking, like if we're talking the exact rules, this is why we got
a tax code in this country. It's because you can evade everything. It's great.
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I do want to ride on a trophy truck like that cyber truck guy. He offered me a ride like next
time when it's like, I think it was awful weather when I was there, but like I'd love to go to
like the sand. You're telling me that the trophy truck couldn't handle some weather?
Oh, no, no, it was a trophy truck or pre-runner or what was it? Like some,
the, oh, the, it was a cyber truck. Well, it's a, yeah, it was a pre-runner. It was,
it was a, what was underneath it? Cause he just built the body panels and it just looks like it was
originally like a Ranger pre-runner. Yeah, Ranger. Yeah. I think his holdup was like,
I think something was like in the works or it was like, he just finished building something
and it was like, it was just like a mud bog back there. And he's like, yeah, it wouldn't be as
fun or I can't remember what the exact reasoning was, but like, I was like, all right, fair enough.
He didn't want to get dirty. He was like, this is going to suck. No, that dude was ready to party,
but I can't, I can't remember. There was like an actual like legitimate reason for it, but
I do, were you at the sand dunes at any point in California? Did you check them out?
No. I'm not sure how far that is. That is something that my, my group of friends that I hang out with
that they get into, but they mostly just bring dirt bikes, dirt bikes, just dirt bikes. Yeah.
Like big two-stroke 400 ccs and just rip them for a weekend. That's fair. Have you ever,
did you ever try to go down the bike route? Like, I know you have some like smaller bikes,
but like, did you ever go like down to sport bike routes? No, but that is funny that you bring that
up because I just recently got a 2001 Harley Davidson Sportster 1200 C. And I, my plan for it
is to build a chopper. Okay. And so what that entails is basically cutting the bike in half,
remove the rear section, get rid of the suspension and replace it with a hard tail.
So, you know, it's almost a full rigid frame. And this sounds so pleasant. It's so cool, man.
I've been in love with choppers forever. And I've found one pretty decently priced,
just a sportster that I could chop up. And, you know, the whole point of like doing it is
like just building a custom like 11 of one, like, you know, you get, you put a new gas tank
on it, you put handlebars on it, you paint it. I got a little cute little tassels too. I mean,
if I want, I could. Yeah, it's all about the individuality of the rider. Yeah,
ape hangers. But I like, I like rabbit ears. So I'm going to do some rabbit ear handlebars on it.
You know, the peanut gas tank, you know, the king and queen seat with the sissy bar on the back,
like I got, I'll show you a picture, but that's one of the projects I'm working on in California
right now. Is it, are you sending it to a shop? No, I'm going to be doing most of the work. Just
not going to weld it because welding that is the most crucial part of the build. I am not a certified
welder. I do not trust my life, you know, going 60 down the highway with my welds. So that's one
thing I've gained some respect for doing the shows. Like I never understood how many various
professions there are within the car scene. Like having met like fabricators, like patients
met up. Like I knew of patients like 23 years before I started to show, but I never
really fully comprehended just how crazy the stuff was that they were doing. Fabrication is
the craziest thing to me. Like what do you mean you just fucking made it? Exactly. What do you
mean? You just, you just looked at the car and you're like, it needs this. Yeah. And it's like
visualized like the exact shape. Like they go into CAD, they design it and then they just,
it's like they just hit print or cut and then it's bam, it's on the car. Or like all the people
that use like send cut send now and you have all these shapes. Like if you're, if you watch Super
Fast Matt on YouTube, right? I told you about Super Fast Matt. I told you about him. I was like,
you got to check this guy out. He's so funny. Was it you? Oh no, you sent me the sandwich
video. I think it was. I think that's the one that got my attention was when you put the sandwich in
the, in the carbon fiber. Yeah. Cause he, cause he was making fun of the forged carbon fiber
fad and he was just like, you literally make forged carbon fiber out of anything. And then
you put the ham sandwich in it. It was so funny. It was just, it was like right up your alley and
I knew you'd love it. Yeah. And then I've become a big fan ever since like recently he did a video.
Uh, I don't know if you saw it like where he bought like his new car or whatever,
like he was deciding on a new day arrow. Yeah. And then he's like, with all the leftover money,
I got a 2026 wrap or whatever it was, the four runner. It was like a two second clip. I was like,
this guy is so many leagues of hilarious above like we're on that. Yeah. Um, yeah. It was just
a joke within joke. Um, yeah, land speeds and other crazy one. Like I didn't
realize like how much, what? Yeah, you got to come out and we can go to the Mirage Desert.
Have you been out there yet? No. Again, like I don't really have a much reason to go do these
things by myself. When's El Mirage? Uh, it's usually like, well, they do testing like,
like all the time all throughout the year. Well, especially now, uh, that it's spring
and going into the summer and there's not going to be as much rain.
Wait, is that California or Arizona? Uh, I'm pretty sure it's Arizona.
Land speed, El Mirage.
Throw a cut in there for me. Either way, like that's, that's another cool one.
What, you would just drive out there or one? Yeah. How far would that be?
Less than four hours. Really? Yeah. Oh, I guess, yeah, that is the next state over. Yeah.
So Cal, we're, we're right on the border. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, I keep thinking about like
all the various stuff in so Cal, but I know where I was going with the land speed stuff, it's like,
weight doesn't really matter as much in that. Like you kind of want the weight. Like I wanted
to tourism dropping either this week or next week. Like I got to check out a land speed car
that has not one, but two,
oh, viper engines in it. And so I have a massive pro charger on both of them and they're both
going to be making 2,500 horse in a land speed car. This has been under development for like a
decade now or whatever with a couple things along the way that halted the process. But I think they're
moving along slightly like now, but it's like a 36 foot long thing. Like it's longer than this
garage. I'm pretty sure. How long is this garage? Over 50 feet. Is it? Well, it's two,
22 stalls. So it's about 15. Oh, no, I was thinking, yeah, either way, like it's
pretty freaking long. Like, I think it's gonna, I think it was seven or 8000 pounds,
something like that. Something crazy. Wow. That's heavy. Well, it's mostly just the two engines.
Yeah, no, when you look at like, yeah, it's like, I'm sure it approach. Are they gen five?
No, no, this project was started like early 2010s, maybe even like 2008. I think it was
gen three. So they had underground racing manifolds on it. When's the last time underground racing
even touched a viper? Yeah, that would have been like early 2000s. That's what I'm saying. It's
like back then it's like, that's when they were dabbling with that before they realized the
Lambo games where it's at. But yeah, like, wait, these guys are loaded. Yeah, but yeah.
But no, it was just crazy kind of seeing that like all come together. And I'm just seeing
they're thinking like, like thinking like, what are the various types of motorsports I would never
do, right? Like, unfortunately, I've learned so much through this podcast where everything scares
me now. But it's like, I would never get in a land speed car. Absolutely not. Like I said,
nothing. And it's like, you have like three nitrous bottles in the back, the drive shaft,
like, yeah, the transmission is like right under your knees. Yeah. And it's like, there's not much
protecting you. And it's like this like metal halo built around you. It's like, like, dude,
I was talking about this probably the safest place to be in at 300 400 miles, like they're
trying to chase the record of. So there's a record at the moment where it's like,
nobody's done 500 miles an hour at one of those events by a wheel driven engine car.
Because like, yeah, the record has been like broken with like jet engine powered stuff,
you know, with like thrust, but not like wheel driven. So like what they're going to be going
for that. And it's like, what happens at those speeds? Like I've seen like 200 mile an hour
crashes. You know, it's like, dude, I yeah. So anyways, that's like one of ones like where I'm
just like, nope. I don't think I could ever do rally either. Maybe I could file. Oh man,
I was hoping when I get back, I could convince you to go rally. And like we go pick up like a
Volvo or like a Subaru or something just cheap iconobox. Yeah, like that's reasonable. Like
that's like, I guess, I guess I'm probably looking at it like the highest level. Yeah,
yeah, like Group B rally, like, no, we're not getting to that level, but it would just be fun
to do like, like just try new things. Well, it's like, it's that like toxic like man trait, right,
which is everybody just signed off. Like the typical man thing where it's like, oh, I could do
that. How hard could it be? Right. And like, I look at it like an F1 car and I'm like, my neck
would snap off. Like it's like, absolutely not. This is the thing, you need to be more of a yes,
man. You need to stop thinking and just do. So maybe rally, like I think I would be blissfully
unaware on that one. But like Demolition Derby. Would you do it? No, hell no. I'm thinking about
the Street Outlaws episode where somebody got hurt in one of those and I'm like, I mean,
Granthin, everybody's got hurt and everything at this point. That's why we got labels and stuff.
What about a river boating? Like the, you know, the cigarette boats that go like 200 miles on
the water. Depends. Oh, it's 200 miles. No, I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. Wait, you're not
talking about the, you're not talking about like the families. You're talking about like the actual
like fast, fast boats? Yeah. Oh, I'm talking about the ones that are like, you know, they got
fucking like, like the Lance B card, like two V10s, twin turbo, both making 2000 horsepower strapped
to the back of a slick speed boat. Yeah. Going down the river. Like the one that flipped earlier
just here? Yeah. Or last year. That was insane. Going just 200 down a sheet of water that might
as well be as hard as concrete. I don't think I know enough to be scared of that yet.
You've never gone fast on water. No, I have all. Dude, listen, I've been 40 miles an hour on water
and I'm just like, I don't know about this. I don't, I don't think, I don't think so.
Yeah. I thought you were talking about like the little fan ones, like when I go through like a
mudbog in Florida or something, I'm like, nope. I don't got that Florida man energy yet. I do
know that I've been changing like as a person, which is while like growing up. And I'm like,
I wonder about like, at what point do I have to come into that? You know what I mean? Like,
when do I start like having a train collection? Like, am I there yet? Like,
you got to have at least two kids before you start thinking about trains. Trains. Yeah. Yeah.
That is a, that's dad activity. Yeah. No, I'm curious. Like what, what is the ultimate next
hobby? Like I've thought about like, I've been trying to figure out what my next hobby is going
to be like, you know, obviously I'm going to keep the, I want to get to an episode of 1000 on this
podcast. Like that is like, that is my bucket list. Like it's like, not just purely from a
quantity standpoint, but just because like there's going to be so many awesome conversations along
the way. And like, that's a long time. Like when I see people like Rogan or like Chris Williamson
or like all these various like so many, like channels have done so many cool interviews and
I'm like, there's an art. Like when you go back to like their early 200, 300 episodes, you're like,
this is garbage dude. Like I just, I can't wait to see it. So do you think you're going to look back
on like episode 180 and be like, oh, this is so garbage. Oh, absolutely. When you're on like episode
three or like 670. 100% I will. Yeah. Like yes and no, right? Like there's always going to be those
episodes that hold a personal feather in my cap. Like episode 98 with Aaron Miller. Like that's
always going to be my bucket list. I remember you taught, you talked to me, you asked me like,
hey, like what questions would you ask him? And I sent you one and you'd never asked him.
I think I asked a couple though. None of my questions. I was locked in. What can I say?
That's one of the other reasons I kind of have been enjoying doing this solo is because I'm able
to actually use my own thoughts and not rely. I think when I left, it was also pretty hard because
you went right into a technical podcast with Sam and that was like, I didn't know anything.
Just straight into the frying pan moment for you. And so I think, and then you've come so far
since then to now like episode 200 with the people that you've talked to and the mountain time and
research that you put into like yourself, like you are like learning, actually putting in the
effort of like, you know, doing, doing the effort and dude, I always say how clueless I was like
episode 67 is the episode that broke me, which was with Jason Anderson from Janderson heads.
Yeah. Because I did not do any research in that episode. Like I don't know what I had going on
or whatever, but like I walked in there and like I relied on Dan to carry that one a little bit
because I no shit, no joke had no idea what heads were. I did not understand like I at this point
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I remember that episode. I don't think people comprehend. Like I had no
business. I probably still don't to some degree. Actually, no, I definitely have business right
in this podcast for sure. But like back then I seriously do wonder like how I even got that far
like with how little car knowledge I have besides cargo like, you know, like
like it's kind of crazy, but that's the episode that broke me. And I was like, I'm just going to
start learning. That's why I discovered HP Academy driven for answers. Well, I'm pretty sure it's
Bosnian, by the way, which that's pretty cool. He recently mentioned Bosnian in an episode. I'm
like, I'm pretty sure this guy is actually Bosnian. He's your cousin. Dude, there's not a zero percent
chance. Yeah, I'm just saying like we're all connected out here, but there's a handful of
Bosnians that actually listens to the show too. But anyways, ultimate Bosnian I want to get on the
show. Remak. Oh yeah. Have you emailed him? I've messaged him. Yeah. Yeah, I got a response,
but I think that one might be a little further down the line. Yeah, like episode 500. Before
that for sure. Oh, before that. Absolutely. Wow. That's a bucket list. Like I don't see. I think
that's where you're going with the next hundred is that you've only improved your
guess in the last hundred and you're going to continue improving. So I want to be careful
on how I phrase that because we're all car enthusiasts. I don't know if you've realized
this. I talk to whoever I want. It's just that my knowledge and the people I want to talk to
kind of changes. Like sometimes I'm just not in the mood to talk to streetcar people. I'm more
in like circuit racing. Like right now I really want to talk to more grid life people because
like that's what I'm into right now. So like people are like, Oh, what's the criteria to get
on the show? I'm like, you let me know because I still don't know. Like it's just whatever I feel
like talking about. Yeah. And I think that's a really good way of going about it too. That way
you're not chasing like the next level of quality. You're doing what you like. You're talking to
people that you want to talk to to a degree and that's dangerous from a growth perspective. But
like at the end of the day, it's like, I know what I've done with this show. Yeah. I think it's
you know, important for you know, your audience to to know kind of like more about the entire
if whoever's listening, if you're listening to this podcast, you're not doing it because
you know, Harris only talks to one type of person in the motorsport industry. Like
the six people that are left. Yeah. He he's he talks to a wide variety of people. And I think
that's a huge draw for you know, your listeners is just the variety of guests. I think that's the
question too is like, I do wish I got more like recommendations, like, especially in areas that
I'm looking to visit because some it's like, it's like hidden mess here and there. Like it's like
just one like in the middle of like, like anytime somebody suggests something, it's like five hours
like in the middle of nowhere from any airport. I'm like, I don't think I could physically make it
out there. Like that's more of a they got to come to me. Yeah. Yeah. I've thought about that too.
It's like, oh, if I just flew people out here, I'm like, that is so expensive. Like that would
never work. That would never work. And not from us. Yeah. Well, hey, if they're ever around. Yeah,
there's that. You know, other people travel too. Do they? I do. I was looking at like,
especially for power crews. Yeah, true you get a lot of people from the
Midwest out here. Okay, we're chilling that about an hour. I'm gonna throw a cut cut cut for me for
me. How you feel? You want to restart? Yeah, let's restart. Yeah, let's let's do it. I was just
about to say that too. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what's coming next though. I think I think this
year's gonna be a lot more like I've gotten so much more hands on with cars again, like
it is kind of laughable and like how little I've done with cars up until this point. But
I think like having a fundamental like baseline is so helpful. Like from like the people I've had
on the show to like the questions I'm able to ask like the smartest people that we've had on the
show has like changed drastically. Understanding how like, like it's literally like we're talking
physics now. Like how are we talking about physics like doesn't it can't you just put
gas and then just go like, yeah, or like the types of tuning like I feel like there's so much
good advice on the show from like, don't just go to anybody to tune your car, like that's when
the biggest standout I think if you like did a graph of every time like any word has ever been
spoken, those exact words would be at the top. Yeah, like also like tuners that specialize in
one or two things have way more success than when they just talk to, they just do everything. Yeah,
Jack of all trades, but master of none, that whole deal, like you really should out of everything
that you would want a master in that field of tuning that's probably the most important part
of your build. Yeah, well, it's not even just like tuning though, it's like when you like you kind of
want a dedicated fab guy, you want to do like there's some shops that do it all, which is cool,
like those are big, big shops, but it's like, I don't know, there's something to be said about
like there's a lot of specialists that have had a lot of success on the show. Do you have a favorite
episode? I'm curious, like in your time that you were gone? Probably the ones with me, you know.
Yeah, I was gonna say like that's not fair. No, it's definitely Aaron Miller. He's just someone
that I love talking to him. He's so nice, but only ever times that I get to talk to him,
he's like extremely busy. He's either at Texas 2k, he's got four cars that he's got a race and he's
got to solve, you know, an issue or he's, you know, troubleshooting or, you know, he's here in town,
but, you know, like, I'm not going to just show up to his shop and, you know, it's just so like
having that dedicated time, like to hear him like talk, one of my like also favorite episodes is
Cooper Bogetti. Oh, really? He had Aaron Miller on and I listened to that one. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like I just been trying to get like, I want to know everything that Aaron knows.
I don't think our brains are big enough for that. Yeah, exactly. Like, so I'll take a drop,
I'll take two drops of his knowledge. Yeah. No, he's like super humble and I wish he would
talk more. Like, I feel like sometimes, like, I was just, I re-listened to the podcast
that you did with him and, you know, like, you almost had to like squeeze the answers out of him.
It depends, right? There's some guys. Like, you could just talk about it.
I think it depends, though. Like, I think my second conversation with him on the show, particularly,
was way, like, more in-depth and better is because, like, again, it falls on me as an
interviewer. Like, the more I know, can ask. I think one of my favorite episodes is
Kelly Akin. I don't know if you've listened to that one. Yeah. But like. Oh, no, I listened to a,
was it Luan? He also has a Camaro, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was, yeah, that was an
old one, but like. Kelly has the Z. No, the GTD, the red GTD, the suspension episode. That one was
such an intense episode of, like, I did not even know that you can know that much about suspension
and, like, how, like, how springs are made. I, that's probably my biggest downside or downfall
is my, like, I do not understand suspension geometry that well. Like, it is so foreign to me,
so alien. And, like, if I, I, that's one of the big things that I need to, like, sit down and
really learn. That's, that's the episode for you, then, if you haven't listened to that one, because,
like, he, like, yeah, just went so in-depth and, like, understanding, like, how to get a car, do
an insane, because, like, he's the 60 to 130 guy. He probably has more, like, individual, like,
knowledgeable posts in that forum than anybody else on the planet, because, like, he's done so many
hits and understands, like, what setups to run and all that. And a lot of it comes down to
suspension. Like, he was doing the impossible so long ago. At least everybody I've talked to so far
has had nothing but good things to say. So, but yeah, I don't know. We got to come back to this.
So, is California next? After California, where else?
You got to come to California. And I, and I'll tell you, there's so many shops that I,
I will hit up on your behalf and be like, you got to have this guy. Like, he's an incredible
podcaster and, you know, just see, see some of the stuff that he's done, some of the people he's
talked to, like, you, you'll enjoy having him. And I can be your co-host again for those very
special, limited episodes. That is one thing I'm thinking about going forward is, like, having guests,
like co-host as well. Like, it's like, nothing that's like rigid or like one particular way,
but just like casually, like, kind of doing it. Because like, I know there's been some other
podcasters that have done that too. And it's like, it kind of, kind of works out. Like, I mean,
like a, like a Jimmy Fallon late night kind of deal where you invite like a guest onto the show
and they kind of host it with you. Oh, yeah. Like, they like talk to each other and all that stuff
too. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I truthfully like, I'm kind of kind of entering into this era of like,
YOLO, I don't care. Yeah. And it's like, trying to go back to like, what the roots of the show
were and what made it successful. Not that it's not successful now, but it's like,
like some sort of like, like reinvention kind of, I don't know, we'll see, maybe I'm just talking
about it in my ass. I don't know, as we sort of, I think we might be a wind down here or maybe
I'm going to say goodbye. What else is there to touch on? I don't know where else you should go.
I really think you need to come to California though, because it's crazy that you've been to,
you've probably been to like, what, 30 states at this point?
10 or 15. Oh, okay. Yeah. But like, I also kind of, but you, but you've been like revisiting these
same states multiple times. So you, you traveled for the podcast over 30 times.
I don't think it's a quite that yet. Just, just, yes, yes, and no, but like,
because I always started traveling at the end of 2024 for the most part. So it's like, we haven't
had 30 months and it's usually one trip a month. But like, I also like no offense to like the,
the boring states, but like, I don't know what to do in the boring states. Yeah, the flyover states,
the flyover states. I don't know what, that's, that's why I'm saying you got to come to California,
because besides California, I don't know where else you should go. Florida was incredible. Yeah,
there's so much talent. I mean, you, you could go to New York, but I don't know anybody in New
York. I couldn't tell you what to do. They're not car people. I just lost my audience. No, like,
it's like, how many, like, unless you go to like outside like the main city is like, how many,
I don't know, this is kind of an outsider's perspective, I guess. Yeah, exactly. Like if
you're from New York and or from the East coast or from the flyover states, you got to, you know,
leave a comment. I don't know what's out there. You got to email Harris and you got to let them know
what's going on. Like I said, I had kind of a game plan going into this episode,
but truthfully, like it was just kind of like a fun recap catch up. I think you were trying to treat
it like your previous episodes. This isn't like that. I'm, I'm just your local co-host that came
back for temporary for the 200th episode. Yeah. Um, no, I think all I can say is like,
there's a lot on the horizon. I really want people to become more involved with the show and like
where to go and all that for those that have made it this far into this. Um,
but let's do the pick three. All right. So my, my list has changed. So you get an unlimited
budget. You get to pick three cars. You get to pick a daily driver, a show car and a track car.
What are you choosing? So weird hearing you say it. I know it's really trippy, isn't it? You did
really good. I know that was the best time I've done it yet. Like I, that was like a seven out of
10, I think. Yeah. Not then. Uh, right. So originally I did this list back in 2003.
Back in 2003. 2023.
I'm jet lagged. I just got here. Uh, 2023. I said my daily would be a Audi RS6.
My show car would be a RX seven. So I could do the, the bra bra bra exhaust
exhaust things that RX sevens do. And, uh, for the track car, I don't even remember what I said
about about a track car. So let's start, let's start there. Something more impressive,
something that I would take to the track. I wanted something where I could go and just dominate at
like Kota or, uh, Laguna Seca. I'd take, I'd probably take it. Oh, you know what? I just remembered.
It was a Porsche GT four. That was what I originally said. Yeah. And even though the GT
four RS was out at the time I knew like, Oh, like I just wouldn't be able to enjoy it as much. I
just wouldn't enjoy a GT four S as much. I would be able to throw a GT four around like as is,
like perfectly. Uh, now I think I take a Porsche GT three. And that's it. Yeah. GT three. I'm ready
for the Porsche GT three. Okay. It's such a killer car. I got to drive a, like a, like a new one,
like a 992. And I got to drive one out in California on, uh, at the Porsche experience center.
It was just a surgeons tool, just the level of precision that car can deliver on a track. I did
a auto, I did a autocross. I only did that for a little bit. And then we were like, okay, let's go
do the full course, like the actual road course. He, the guy just wanted to see like if I was,
like if I was being humble or if I was like talking a big game about like what my experience
with cars was. So, you know, he was like, Oh, damn, like, you know, he was, you know, you're,
you're breaking is pretty good. Your acceleration, like you're getting, getting the acceleration to
the turns, trail breaking, like all that. So he was like, okay, like let's go to the road course.
And the road course was super good. I mean, it's, you know, just a, in a, I want to say it's like
a 50 acre lot that they had turned into this, you know, multiple experience, like
track, you know, so they also had a acceleration straight. That was like a quarter mile
with two banked or one banked turn at the very end. And then a just standard
cold to sack that you just turn around in at the other, that was like whatever. I think I hit like
130, maybe 140 in the quarter miles on the straight. The car wasn't meant to go faster
in a straight line. It was meant to go fast in corners. And that's exactly what it did.
I wish I got to drive AJ's GT3, like around actual corners, because I was so unimpressed
with it in straight lines. Like it was literally barely fast. Yeah. Well, I, if you want to go
fast in a straight line turbo s. Yeah. Yup. It's comfy and it's what you're probably going to use
it for anyways, but for the GT3 track driving, I think that's wonderful car that my experience
could handle. So you upgraded to GT3. Okay. Goodbye GT4. Okay. My daily,
I think I'm going to go with the only thing that I could think of better than a Audi RS6
M5 comp wagon. Oh, okay. Okay. The new M5 wagon. Well, the new one, the hybrid one? Yeah. Really?
Okay. Yeah. I think it's slick. I think it looks great. It does look great, doesn't it? Like it's
it's a pig of a car, but you're not going to use it for track stuff. No, it's a daily. That's kind
of like who I've talked to is like, I know people are upset about weight, but it's like, you're not
going to take that car to the Nuremberg ring. Like, who do you think you are? You're going to go to a
Brainerd track day here locally. You're going to take that car to Kota. No, you're not. No,
no, you're not. I don't even drive the Audi crazy. I have done nothing to that car and it's
so perfect. Like I don't even want to do anything to it. Like most of the cars that I get,
I modify them like within the first few months of owning them. Well, that one you haven't modified
at all. Nothing. I've done nothing. I've only done maintenance. Okay. Maintenance is a bitch.
Just spendy or just actually like a panty-ass? It's spendy. Really? I mean, like I was shopping
around for brakes. Dealer quoted me 10,000. But he's like CCBs or no? Nope. Steel pads,
steel rotors. The best price that I got was 7K and I'm pretty sure they were eating the labor cost
on it. So I was like, damn. Like I was like, I don't know, man, I got to pay like $600 for the
BMW for the M3's brakes. Like, I was like, oh, that's, I'll just wait till they get down to the
pad. But that's like full service. Like you're talking about like rotors, pads. Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Now, I guess the R6 is a step up above the G80. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. I never
thought about it that way. Yeah. So I would make a sideways move. I'd go to the M5 wagon
for a daily. And then for a show car, definitely not an RX7 anymore. I've kind of grown out of that.
That was a very at the moment pick for a show car. I mean, something that just
I can't pick the M3 G80 anymore. I feel like everyone is clowning on those right now
for just being like the show car. There were some really nice ones like caffeine and octane.
Yeah. No, they're nice. They're really nice. There's too many of them to be of like anything
special anymore. So I think I'm going to have to go with something totally different and do like
Ferrari. I think I would do Ferrari F8. And I do it as a, I think it's the best looking Ferrari.
I saw one in person. It blew my mind. I know Ferraris are like so overhyped as a car brand
and like the people who like them, cloud chasers or people who generally don't really understand
cars that well, the mechanics and how they handle what makes a good car and
really how to drive one. So, you know, I was kind of deemed Ferrari as a lost cause, but
F8 is just such a seriously good looking car. It's stunning. Probably like it looks better than
any Aventador, looks better than any McLaren, better than P1. Like, tell me if I'm wrong.
I think you might be. P1s are insane. Just for the shock value, a P1 is insane.
No, looks wise. Like when you look at the wing and then they get the bowl.
It just has the McLaren style, which is the same style that the 720 and the 570 all kind of share.
The F8 is unique in that way. Like it does look different than almost every Ferrari.
I love the 296 Speciale. Have you seen those? No, not the Speciale. So the Speciale. I've seen
the 296 like the 296 GTB. Okay. Yeah. I was looking at photos of this yesterday,
so it's fresh on my mind. It's like anytime I see one of those, it's so nice because like
the wing, it's not like a full wing. It's kind of like the little hooks on the back or whatever.
Like I'll decide and it's just such a nice like the FXX. Yes, exactly like that. Like it looks
like it's inspired by that. And I'm like, that is such a nice looking car. 296. Like
yes, it's a V6. Yes, it sounds good for a V6, but like it is such a good looking car. Yeah.
The SF90s are sweet too. I mean, and they actually have a lot of interior room. Like you don't like
them? No, I don't. Because you look at the what people paid for them and then what they resell for.
And there's clearly an issue with that. Is there any other car that's tanked like that at that
level that's not like an English car of any kind? I feel like the only other car would be like the
Senna, the McLaren Senna. Looks wise. No, like the price wise. Like Senna's have basically
not gone up in value nor down, which is so weird. Like out of all the like out of McLaren's like
whole lineup, I felt like the Senna would have done numbers. Really? They didn't go up in value?
No, I'm pretty sure you could go out and buy one basically what they cost back in like 2019.
Yeah, like look at like Carrera GT. Somebody made a point yesterday
that like the Carrera GT is the best car ever. And it's really hard to like...
Well, Doug owns one. So that's obviously true. But like think about like it's a manual V10
supercar that drives incredibly well. Yeah. Like and it's got the looks like it's like it's really
like it's hard to think like what better car like I really like struggle to think about. I'm like,
okay, that's a stupid comment. I'm like, oh, but I don't have anything to add like to contribute on
this, you know, so maybe I'm growing up. But like think about it. Like what if they had enough manual
Aventador SVJ? How cool would that be? I don't think just being manual makes it cool. No,
SVJs are cool as is. But like to make it compared to the Carrera GT, like why wouldn't it be as
cool as a Carrera GT if the Aventador came in a manual? Yeah, naturally aspirated V12. Right?
Like why wouldn't it be the same caliber? I don't know because it's Aventador and I just,
again, it's like in that upper echelon of, you know, it's usually, it's not the car, it's the owner,
car owner that I usually don't agree with. You're not wrong. But it's like, look at the Superleggera,
the Gallardo Superleggera, they came in manuals. And they are worth triple or double or whatever it
is. Like, well, that's because if you didn't get them, you got the shit manual automatic,
the F1 transmission is so bad. Actually, when you think about it, not as you're bringing it,
Mercilago was in the same era as the Carrera GT, but the Carrera GT gets just a little bit more,
like it ranks a little higher, doesn't it? The Mercilago?
The Mercilago, I think, because it, those came, a lot of them came with manual,
that was the preferred option on those. So I think, I think Porsche just kind of has this
safe safety to it, you know, they're owned by Volkswagen. So a lot of,
What are they owned by? That group back there? Yeah. Yeah. They've been, they've been owned by
VW since the like 1930s. Oh, yeah, tanks and all that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So,
yeah, I think there's just like a little bit of safety in Porsche that Lamborghini doesn't have.
And that tumultuous period. And it adds like some like coolness. It's rougher around the edges,
sure. But you know, Lambo doesn't have anyone to, at the time, didn't have anyone to like look,
look down and tell them, Hey, you can't do that. That's fair. So I think, I think that's why,
again, I'm going to just stick with it, Ferrari F8. I mean, you just can't be the like, how modern
that car is in style, looks, performance. And yes, that 90 sucks. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha.
Sorry. Sorry. That's, these are my three cars that I get to pick. So that's fair. This would be,
honestly, such a cool garage with a M5, F8 and GT3. GT3. I already got a Porsche in the garage.
I don't need two Porsches. No, fair enough. Fair enough. I'll sweet on that note. Thank you for
joining me for episode 200. This was so good to be back. Yeah, this is a, this was definitely
unique and different. And if you guys made this far into the episode, thank you very much for
following along the show for so very long. There's, there's much more to come. Thanks for tuning in,
guys. Sean, thanks for existing and we'll see y'all next time.
About this episode
The hosts kick off with their “pick three cars” game, landing on an Audi RS6 as a dream daily and a Porsche GT3 for track precision, with coaching notes like “trail breaking, like all that.” They debate drivetrain practicality (AWD vs RWD) and get into real-world ownership costs: 22-inch tire downsides, dyno numbers, and brake pricing. The conversation widens to motorsports culture—drag racing’s clarity, grassroots tech inspections, and why specialized tuners matter—before ending with more garage fantasies and extreme builds.
Episode 200 brings back the OG co-host Sean Bryant for a brief recap of the last 200 episodes — where the show started, where it's been, and where it's heading next.
