The hosts recap the recent 2025 GRIDLIFE Midwest event, sharing personal updates and experiences from the festival. They discuss the evolution of their event formats, including a new knockout style shootout that garnered mixed feedback. The conversation touches on the significance of the festival atmosphere, notable racing moments, and future plans for upcoming events. Additionally, they reflect on their personal lives, including work changes and fitness goals, while maintaining a lighthearted and engaging tone throughout.
"Like, um, uh, uh, Porsche, RSR type car literally makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up."
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A V10 is a type of engine that has ten cylinders arranged in a V shape. This design helps the engine produce a lot of power and makes a unique sound that many car enthusiasts love.
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"Or even like Rob Dom's multi-rotor car, the reason people like those things because of how they sound..."
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"...the things that stand out to me would be, uh, flat sixes, flat plane crank V eights, V tens and V 12s..."
A flat-six engine has six cylinders that lie flat instead of standing up. This helps the car handle better because it keeps the weight lower to the ground.
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"...flat sixes, flat plane crank V eights, V tens and V 12s..."
A flat-plane crank V8 is a type of V8 engine that has a special crankshaft design. This helps the engine run smoother and sound different, making it popular in sports cars.
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A V12 engine has twelve cylinders in a V shape. It's very powerful and gives a smooth ride, often used in luxury sports cars.
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"I could argue for, uh, a really well done, uh, turbo inline six. Oh, sure."
A turbo inline six is a type of engine with six cylinders arranged in a line, and it uses a turbocharger to make it more powerful without increasing its size.
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"Have you ever heard, have you ever seen like the Brazilian stock car series that runs NA straight six, like old school Ford motors?"
An NA straight six is a type of engine with six cylinders in a row that gets air naturally without a turbo. It's known for being smooth and balanced when it runs.
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"Have you ever heard, have you ever seen like the Brazilian stock car series that runs NA straight six, like old school Ford motors?"
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"Well, like really what got me thinking about it was, um, you remember a few years ago, F1 was at, um, Abu Dhabi, I think, and Lewis Hamilton is doing an interview."
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"And Fernando Alonso is driving his old championship winning Renault on track as an exhibition and Lewis Hamilton like is visibly distracted."
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"...ll have the 4586? Uh, well, the V 10 one was his Supra, the 4586 case, he's a double. Well, I know the ..."
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"Well, I know the 4586 was a drift car, but like, uh, really cool. And it was designed to be a drift car as well, but also be able to do some attack."
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"...love, but like it has been forever. Um, although GLC could leave, you know, the GLC and time attack co..."
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"...the turbo drain came loose and made a big old mess in my engine bag and blah, blah, blah. Um, so it kind of has been tinkering with it all winter."
The turbo drain is a pipe that helps oil flow back to the engine after it has been used in the turbocharger. If it's loose, it can leak oil and cause problems for the engine.
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"...I had to like fix the flex section and fix, you know, the turbo drain and like redid some heat fielding..."
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"...and like redid some heat fielding, some, a ton of little things."
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Hey Adam.
It's just your favorite, you know, every six weeks released podcast, maybe longer, I don't
know.
I mean, you do like all those guest appearances on other people shows these days.
So at least we're getting our name out.
I hope you think many of those.
I saw a I saw a clip of you from a show that was recorded at Midwest.
And I don't know if it was just like a weird super cut.
But I was like, all these all these like five second clips, none of them are.
In context, right?
Like you're just saying things.
But when when it all was was put together, I was like, what the fuck's he talking about?
I'm not the same thing.
That was actually a pretty fun show.
He's he's more drift centric, but we basically went through like the back story of, you know,
how we started running racetracks.
Oh, yeah.
You know, slipping listeners have probably heard it more than a few times.
But if there aren't slipping listeners, I don't think there are any more.
I think we should probably just keep doing it just because we want to do it, not
because people actually listen.
The the other day, you and I talk on the phone for like forty five minutes.
And it would have been like, you know, it's like, we should just talk more.
I don't even care if we record it.
Yeah. Yeah.
What about a half way to the show?
My I think listeners on the show know that I started a new job in
the early part of twenty twenty four and things since then have been busy.
Yeah, kind of the same.
I have talked about moving out of our building on the show.
No, you haven't, but long time listeners might know that you've
complained about the the losing of your building to the city.
Yeah, the property now years and years and years ago.
Yeah, so I thought I thought we'd be out of this building many, many years ago
because the taxes when we bought it were like nine thousand bucks.
So it's a kind of a junky fifty by hundred building.
And the most recent tax bill, we haven't been paying it for several years,
but the most recent one was fifty five thousand.
And so it's like, OK, I could feed my family or I could pay an outrageous
tax bill that has completely devalued my building.
So like we have chose because the building, the equity is gone.
When you build a high, no one's buying any buildings in this area.
We've chosen to like just write it out and see how long the party takes.
You know, right?
The party took a lot more years than I thought it would.
Well, I think the wheels of government move slowly.
Yeah, so the party's over on Friday.
Does that mean that building is now vacant?
I mean, it's over this coming Friday.
The last six months for me have been between working, you know, obviously
my my day job company, which coincides with real life often
and then moving out of that building in the evening.
It has been very. Yeah, but I'm done on Friday, which is sweet.
I mean, that's I think that's cool.
I it's it's really hard to like hard to be OK with it, but also
like I can't wait till till it's done because it's a bigger building than we need.
My dad's almost retired.
He's retired at age to keep working.
Like it's a big project just to maintain a building like that.
And you've got insurance and you've got electrical and you've got, you know,
all the other things that go along with this building in general.
Yeah. And it is not in wonderful shape.
It never really was.
Just more like a truck garage, but it's not big enough to be a truck garage
because it's only 50 feet and it's the lot is not very big.
It's a small triangle shaped part in a lot.
So it's not even ideal to pull a semi into.
So yeah, so that's been kind of my help.
Yeah, got a good storage lot and have been redoing.
We're going more to a home office in a big garage behind the parents house,
which is going to be much more manageable.
Sure. But yeah, you've been in that in that garage.
Yeah. The last time I was in there, there was a lot of stuff in there.
Yeah. And so that that was like a year
just to clean up with my brother and myself.
He used it as like a car garage forever.
He lived in that lift, went to grid life.
And I've actually been cleaning that probably since 2020.
Because the job is tend to tend to look at like a cut off piece of tubing
and say, hey, I might need that someday.
That's a yeah, no, that tracks.
And my dad's the same way.
My brother's the same way.
So I got rid of a lot of cut off pieces of tubing, so to speak.
But yeah, clean the floors up, painted it, carpeted the office area.
It's going to be like part shop, part small office, home office type deal.
It's all of our work is word of mouth referrals
and, you know, me working for other contractors.
So you don't really need a showroom, which is going to be great.
Right. Right.
Right now, I'm installing a really high end shower door in a basement,
but I didn't sell it.
You know, I just measured it and I'm putting it in for somebody else.
Got it. Yeah.
So that's been my life, which has not been cool,
but it is going to be cool when on Friday I get to give keys over.
And then on Saturday, we're driving to
we're taking a big driving vacation.
Great.
We're where's your where's your itinerary?
So we're going to where are you going first?
We're going to I think I work and try to end Saturday night in Wall, South Dakota.
Are you going to go to a wall drug, aren't you?
Yes, I don't want to, but Emma would love that drug.
We're going to go there for a short period as possible.
But then we're going to do Badlands, I think, on Sunday.
And Mount Rushmore, you know, for 20 minutes or whatever
and make our way to Yellowstone for four or five days
and then go to Grand Teton and South State in Colorado.
My friends have been in festival mode and then move out of the building.
Vacation planning has been serious department.
Gotcha. Yeah.
We did we did Midwest Festival a couple of weeks ago
and it felt very routine.
It was great.
A great amount.
Those might find my favorite man.
I think I've said this on the show a bunch of times.
My favorite Midwest was twenty eighteen.
Twenty eighteen.
What was twenty twenty eighteen was the year we did the brackets.
Oh, yes. Now, that was pre-GLTC, but I'm trying to imagine
adding GLTC to that Saturday.
That might have been the most intense, like series of on track
exhibitions or however you want to call it, like on track activity
that we would have done.
Now, it was a it was probably only rivaled by
like speed running speed runs kind of that only for a day.
Now, we did do at Midwest this year
a different style of like top ten type shootout,
which ended up being pretty cool.
I think I didn't go back and watch the stream yet, but I haven't watched
on the stream either, but yeah, we kind of tried a knockout format.
So which was it was fun for me to do it.
I thought it was I thought it was cool.
The only feedback that I could offer from the tower is that part
of the reason the brackets are cool is that we obligated the cars
to be in proximity, not necessarily requiring each other to like,
you know, be door to door, but the the direction and the rule was ten car legs,
right, and the heads up sort of element of the knockout shootout is
diminished a little bit if the cars are half a track apart
or a straight away.
They were like a straight straight away part.
Yeah.
And that was like a it was hard to it was like a little hard to control
because the cars the car on the flyer, you know, they're hot and ready to go.
And then somebody is trying to catch them.
Well, somebody else backs out and yeah,
it just I think it worked pretty well for the first shot.
Yeah.
Tony March, I've won some rounds at first.
That was cool.
It was he went from I think he drew like P eleven
and then he got to jump like four or five or three or four spots.
Eric, it's a lot of them rounds.
It was fun when the wall bomb and it could till what wall bomb was like
on to tell us blood.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't ask Matt about this, but I.
I was trying to figure out what the strategy was.
And the only thing I could think of in the tower was that more than likely,
wall bomb did not think that he could like win straight up.
And because of that, he was attempting to pressure
could till into a mistake instead of actually
like like just running and trying to beat on actual pace.
Yeah.
And that was kind of my guess, too, or just to put on a show
because Matt Walba, yes, and he was already well, like he hit the worst
he could have done as like people or something, something like that.
Yeah.
Because of the the week, because he's randomized the start order
with a with a random number draw.
So yeah, so that was fun to watch.
See, right on like he was like half a car.
Yeah, it was it was tight.
Um, and I don't mean that in like the the.
Cool sense of the word.
I mean, like they were in close proximity.
Yeah, they were racing this time.
Um, what else happened?
Like so much shit happened at home in the last month.
It's just crazy.
It was that event was such a blur with the, especially with the festival
across at Spectator Hill now, yeah, which overall I love.
I so when we got there or when I got there on Thursday night,
I don't think it was lit up yet, but it certainly was on Friday evening.
Seeing being in the paddock and seeing the festival grounds lit up at
Spectator Hill and it actually being lit up.
And in this case, it's elevated because, you know, it's on a hill.
It, it made the event feel very big.
Well, it was a, it's a good crowd, but yeah, it like looked so cool too.
Yeah, I love how it was like, yeah, it was like a city on a hill.
Yeah, where it was like, oh, this, this is a this, this like event is
significant and it's large.
Sorry, I was drawing something.
What did you say?
No, I just, it makes the whole event feel like really significant.
It did.
It felt, it felt big, which obviously is kind of the goal.
You want it to, you want it to feel big and cool.
Because it is pretty big and cool for amateur motor sports.
Certainly on Saturday, when I was at the music, it really felt like
there was a ton of people at the show.
I, so like the full world bodies on site was, was like similar to last year.
But I think there's something about that, that stage being a destination
that like brought more people to this stage.
Despite it being like a track, right?
You had to walk to get there.
But it, it certainly felt like it drew everyone.
Yeah, it looked, it looked amazing.
Like the crowd was like, it felt like there's 30,000 people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There wasn't, but there was a lot of people.
Um, we got another event coming up mid Ohio, right?
You have, you do.
You will not be there.
You've missed a mid Ohio before, I believe.
I've missed most of them before.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, we had a camp, we had a, uh, friends can't like camp out
scheduled a couple of years ago.
And I like did the, I was there for Thursday night.
I did the driver's meetings and then took off.
Yeah, I remember.
Yup.
And that was like, uh, I think the weather was real bad.
Like 10 minutes after.
Oh, that, all that tracks.
Yeah.
That was the one I think people were like body searching, uh, in the
path down the hill or something.
Well, that, that sounds right.
I think I'm pretty sure it was dog applying in the guy.
Uh, Rob shot a picture of Sloan.
I, she was probably three, um, stomping in puddles, wearing a raincoat.
Um, and, and gave it to us.
I think that was the same year.
Yeah, that was two years ago, I think it was a last year and I'll
let my fit that hit last year.
Unbelievable.
I was definitely there last year.
So there's the scar.
We launched GLGT at Midwest.
What do you think?
Look, I, I can't wait for more cars, but I do think that the cars
that came were super cool.
Agreed.
Um, it, uh, I think as, as like as a power to weight class, I think
it's pretty good.
You did remark that it looks too similar to TC.
So I can, I could see that a little bit.
Yeah.
And, and when I say like looks similar, um, maybe it's just
because the cars were not necessarily optimized yet for the
class, but the, like the, the differences between TC and GT
aesthetically are small.
The cars are a little bit faster.
And I think they have the potential to be decently faster.
But yeah, it's, it is hard to, uh, it's hard to, from a
stuck tater side, it wouldn't be hard to, to know which one was
happy.
Yeah.
So that valid, uh, valid.
Crips geek that are in like, if they, I mean, if they, if they
all looked insane, that would, uh, differentiate it from TC to a
degree, or if they were like a bunch of soft cars or something,
you know, right, right, but, uh, we're, we're kind of stuck with
production based looking things.
Sure.
Uh, yeah, it's not like a rush versus TC where you're like, oh,
rushes out.
Yeah, exactly.
Now, uh, we don't, we don't have to talk about it on the show,
but it's worth reminding.
I had a really cool idea for a racing class in the future.
And, uh, I can say it's really cool because one, it's my idea.
And I actually think objectively it's really cool.
So it was, it was your idea.
And I, yeah, I've been thinking about it in a sense.
Yeah.
Um, maybe, maybe 27.
I think it's a, I think it's more of like an exhibition race idea.
The more I think about it to like, pull it off.
Do you think that people would build these cars to a degree for an exhibition?
And, uh, I think it's more of like a catch the cars that already exists thing.
Um, if a lot of those cars exist, you can talk about what the idea is.
Okay.
Well, I mean, if it's, if it's free to talk about the, um, the idea was that when
we talk about racing and we talk about the old days of racing, the thing that
people yearn for is the way the cars sound.
Like, um, uh, uh, Porsche, RSR type car literally makes the hair on the back of
my neck stand up.
It like, it, it, it, it, it, it stirs emotion in me.
So, or a V, or a V10, right?
Or even like Rob Dom's multi-rotor car, the reason people like those things because
of how they sound, not necessarily just because the race cars.
Um, and I want some kind of, uh, event or venue or, or a spectacle of some kind
where the prerequisite to race is that the cars are, they, they have to sound
outstanding.
Yeah, which is like, it's hard to write a rule for it, but it's also, I, I, that's
where I kind of think it could be like the coolest, like invite, invite style
script race.
Well, so I mean the, the, the things that, the things that stand out to me would
be, uh, flat sixes, flat plane crank V eights, V tens and V 12s and multi-rotor
things.
And I think that, that, that covers virtually everything that would be
sufficiently cool to be in this group.
That's a lot.
I could argue for, uh, a really well done, uh, turbo inline six.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
But not be, sorry.
Have you ever heard, have you ever seen like the Brazilian stock car series that
runs NA straight six, like old school Ford motors?
Dude, I think the crazy cars of all time.
Well, like really what got me thinking about it was, um, you remember a few years
ago, F one was at, um, Abu Dhabi, I think, and Lewis Hamilton is doing an interview
with, with some outlet, some media outlet.
And Fernando Alonso is driving his old championship winning Renault on
track as an exhibition and Lewis Hamilton like is visibly distracted.
And he's like, Oh man, I just want cars to sound like that.
Yeah.
I mean, it was the coolest thing that's ever happened.
Yeah.
So, uh, at some point, I would love to have some kind of outlet for those
cars and the only way to get in this group is you have to have amazing stuff.
Something that sounds just like boss level.
Yeah.
I mean, I know that Turks, what does Turks still have the 4586?
Uh, well, the V 10 one was his Supra, the 4586 case, he's a double.
Well, I know the 4586 was a drift car, but like, uh, really cool.
And it was designed to be a drift car as well, but also be able to do some
attack.
I don't know if he's ever actually drifted it though.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
He told me he told me they had like always thought about making it do both.
I, uh, he wasn't at Midwest.
I haven't seen him this year.
Uh, is he coming to any of our events?
Uh, I'm not sure.
Um, his, uh, his brother was at Midwest.
Oh, yeah?
I didn't see him.
Yeah.
His brother, his brother was, it's not his identical twin brother.
His younger brother was, uh, the driver of the Matthew Boy trailer.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's such a small world.
Yeah.
His, uh, his brother is like a truck driver for a living.
Got him.
But, uh, yeah, he pulled up and like, oh, hey, I know you.
I don't know.
Ryan was doing something else.
Like he's, he's Toyota factory.
So it's like a little hard to just, uh, a lot of these FD drivers, they
like build their season, like in, you know, December.
And so if we fit in and we fit in, but if we don't, well, that's the breaks.
Right.
So, um, if they have all these obligations in events, then I'll be at limited budget.
Probably.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Midwest was, uh, I really, really enjoyed it.
Um, was it long?
Yes.
But it didn't feel, to me, it didn't feel long.
It didn't feel long.
I mean, on paper, yeah, it's a four day event.
If you want to come for the practice day.
And also like everybody comes to the practice day because it's the day that
you can actually get the parking spot you want.
Right.
Otherwise you parked in the middle of the field.
So like kind of by default at the four day or not.
Um, which I don't love, but like it has been forever.
Um, although GLC could leave, you know, the GLC and time attack could leave on
Sunday morning if they wanted to.
Um, in the past.
In the, in the past, yeah, but, uh, but yeah, Luke McGrew, you know, who's kind
of a, who's kind of a cranky old dude about, uh, about, you know, crime sometimes.
He was like, yeah, I thought it was going to be the longest thing ever.
And then suddenly it was done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which that's kind of how I thought too.
I was like, man, but here I'm going here since, you know, Tuesday.
And like, I can't believe it over.
Right.
Pretty crazy.
Um, I'm trying to think what else has happened in.
And you're, you're riding your bike like crazy.
I'm still riding my bike.
Um, I, I was scheduled for a group ride yesterday and I didn't go because I've
got like some kind of minor cold.
Um, I woke up yesterday morning and I felt like I had, I felt like I had done a
really, really hard workout on Monday and I didn't Monday.
I was resting and I was like, okay, well, I'm definitely getting sick.
Something's not right.
Cause this, I don't normally feel this way.
And so I skipped my ride yesterday and I like feel closer to better today.
Um, but I'm on pace for 4,000 miles this year.
That is a lot.
If I, yeah, I'm at like 1900s, um, for the first half of the year.
And I, I, I basically have until the end of June to get to 2000.
So, um, pretty excited about that.
Are you coming home to me?
That's my plan.
Um, I think I'm just going to bring Sloan and, and leave Ashley at home for the
weekend as like just for a long time, uh, as so long as I can wait.
Are you bringing the bus or will you camp?
I am bringing the bus and it might bring the girls.
Okay.
Well, I'm going to plan to bring a tent if I can convince Sloan to sleep in a tent.
You could, uh, you can look into that.
You'll be bear camper on the way.
Yeah.
I just, I just don't want to not stay at the track.
No, I don't get that.
So, uh, otherwise you could, uh, you could steal.
I'll have my trailer with beds in AC.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, let me do that.
You guys, you guys can steal that and try and figure it out.
Are you going to drive?
That's the plan.
And yeah, I, uh, I haven't driven the car on track since Autobahn when like the
turbo drain came loose and made a big old mess in my engine bag and blah, blah, blah.
Um, so it kind of has been tinkering with it all winter.
Um, and I just started it for the first time on Sunday.
I think it all seems good.
Awesome.
Uh, I had to like fix the flex section and fix, you know, the turbo drain and like redid
some heat fielding, some, a ton of little things.
Yeah.
Wasn't like a big redo of anything, which I am sort of thinking about redoing everything
because Alton keeps telling me that it would be put a K in it, but yeah, yeah.
That's really, it's a lot of work out right now.
Um, bringing us back to bikes for just a second.
I want to, uh, I want to ask you if you knew about this, you know, one of our
GLTC drivers, Austin Cobb, uh, I don't know him super well.
I, I recognize his face, but I learned that he is a crazy person.
And I think you or somebody else told me about this.
I mean, I was not aware.
Okay.
So apparently he was like an ultra runner, like an ultra marathon type dude previously.
Um, and got into gravel bike riding, which is like, uh, dirt road, not like mountain biking,
but like think of road biking, but mostly on unpaved road.
Um, and he, there's this very large bike race in Kansas.
Coincidentally in the town, this like no-name town that my, my Ashley's, um, grandpa used to
live.
So we've like been to that town before.
Um, but apparently something like 5,000 bike racers go here every year to do this bike race.
And they've got so many entries that you can't like, it's basically like grid life.
You can't buy a ticket anymore.
It's almost like lottery to get in.
And the bike race is three distances.
Option one is 100 miles.
Um, that's like, you should be able to do that in a day.
No problem.
200 miles and you'd have to be pretty fit to be able to do that in, in a day.
Plus you like have to really work hard on your nutrition.
And then the really crazy people do 350 miles and Austin did the 350.
Yep.
And that's, um, I looked at his, uh, his race result on Strava and it's like a, he rode
continuously for 34 hours.
All through the night.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
And, and like in order to be able to do this, um, you're going really long distances without,
um, any support or crew or whatever.
So they pre-plan where you have like nutrition drops and your, your, your people just drop
you a bag of like water and food and whatever, um, so that you can continue on and continue
to make pace.
Um, but that's a crazy race to be doing that in the middle of the night.
What town is that?
Oh, like, what was that town that?
Emporia.
Empor, what, in Kansas?
Yeah.
So did they just like, they're based out of a town or I don't know the full details.
What I know is 350 miles is the long ass way.
And it's definitely wrong.
And like, I mean, uh, sort of like sea otter at Laguna is a global event.
Um, apparently unbound in Emporia is a global event.
It's a, it's a big deal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The sea otter classic is, yeah.
When we, when we talk with, we're going to say it comes up every time because like,
it's like this, I want to say it's like two or three weeks that it occupies Laguna.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's the sea otter is a big, big event.
Lots of people attend.
What, like, what's the, what's the format of that?
I actually don't know.
They have gravel racing.
They have road bike, uh, like racing on track.
They have, um, like it's, it's sort of like a trade show.
They have dealer exhibits and they have like new bikes, uh, released or often released at,
at sea otter.
It's like a whole thing.
It's like SEMA for bikes.
Yeah.
Kind of plus, plus, uh, racial things.
I haven't talked to John yet.
I fully plan on bringing my bike to mid Ohio as well.
I really enjoyed riding at, um, Midwest and I got into an impromptu bike race with one of
Rob Wilkinson's like former students apparently.
Yeah.
You were so stoked.
It was so fun.
Um, yeah.
The, uh, we on Sunday because the quiet hour is now a quiet two hours.
Um, yeah.
Good life opened the track up for a 5k and like bikes and track walks, whatever.
And, uh, me and this other guy were road biking for the duration and, uh, we,
we sort of asked each other if we wanted to race the last lap and we sort of, sort of set
terms and, uh, then had a race at the end and it was fun.
And, uh, I would take, I take it here.
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah.
You look younger than me.
Not that you look drastically older.
I am very old.
I feel old.
Uh, I'll be 40 this year.
I'm just turned 42 and I think I feel better than I did when I was 20.
Well, did I tell you what my, um, my like achievement for this, this recent health push
is like the newest achievement?
I don't think so.
My resting heart rate is now, um, it was 52 beats per minute last week.
Yeah, you did.
You did tell me that and it used to be what like 70s or something.
High 70s.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Big difference man.
Yeah.
Well, better to start now than, better to start now than like in your 60s.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My, um, I've been thinking of once my life calms down a little bit after this move
and everything is all done, but I probably, I was thinking about running, but like the
impact on my joints is probably a bad idea.
Yeah.
I mean, you can do it some, but it is objectively it's bad for your body to do it a lot.
Yeah.
The, the reason I was thinking about running is because I have this beautiful park right
in my backyard, but I also could ride a non bike.
That's true.
Um, you could also say that you're not that
far from the lakefront path in Chicago and riding on the lakefront path is, I don't know,
one of the great joys in the city.
It's just the best.
Yes.
That's why it's no, but like now I have two hours to the project of work.
Say what?
It would add like two hours to that project to go to.
Oh, really?
From my, yeah.
It's just the road, like 94 has been a perpetual map.
Well, I mean, you, I think the, the south end of the lakefront path is like 90.
I mean, it's like 78 or something like that.
It's pretty far south.
Oh, I know that, but it's also like the worst part of Chicago.
That's fine.
It's fine.
I work in all those parts.
I'm very familiar with it.
Yeah.
But the late, I mean, like the lakefront path is
you park down there.
That's not that bad.
But getting there, that would add an hour each direction.
Would it?
Yeah, for sure.
But yeah, I've been thinking about doing, because I've been doing basically
like a calisthenic workout for two and a half, three years and lost a bunch of weight
gain, much strength, feel great.
And I just think like you're kind of inspiring me to do cardio or some sort.
So, well, my next, next to a neighbor's a big runner.
He just did a marathon in Georgia.
His wife's on triathlon and so they're a bit of an inspiration as well.
Scott Robertson told me that I'm afraid of my mortality and I, I don't disagree in this context
and I'm fine to spend some effort to try and live a little bit longer.
Yeah.
Well, it's also like a quality of life thing.
Like, you know, when I'm talking with this guy today, where like,
like I, when I'm, when I'm older, I would like to be able to do anything I want to do physically.
And that's like, that was not a priority for my dad and he's paying for it.
Sure. Well, what were we talking about?
I think I had stopped, I was heading, I think to grid life maybe, and I had stopped at a Meyer
in Kokomo, Indiana, which is like a reasonably blue collar town, right?
They're a decent number of automotive factories, transmission for Chrysler and just a whole bunch
of like automotive factory type work there.
And I think it was, you had gone to a basketball game.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
And I could not believe the fraction of people that were walking through the store or in and
out of the store that were walking with visible limps and mobility issues.
It wasn't like a small percentage.
It was, oh, if you were over 50, you were hobbling.
And man, like that work is just hard.
It's hard on your body and you got to take care of yourself.
And I've been doing very hard on my body work for a long time.
It was getting to the point in my upper 30s, I'm like, I don't know if I can keep doing this.
And like the biggest thing I started doing was falling off the ladders before.
And I mean, it's not easy.
The biggest thing I really started doing was squats to fix my bum knee.
And then I just started to add more and more things in.
And yeah, the best thing I ever did, like ever.
Because like you're unstoppable now.
And that's great.
Yep. I am to the kind of a similar context.
I won't say that I am strong.
I'm stronger than I was.
I know there are plenty of people that are stronger than me.
As it relates to my leg strength, especially on my bike though,
it is a weird feeling when some portion of your body is strong
to the point where it's like noticeable.
My legs feel strong and I can feel that they're there.
It's not just like this accessory appendage on my body, if that makes sense.
Or it's like, no, no, no, this is a, I don't know the right word or what I'm trying to say.
But it's just like, oh, I can, I can feel that my legs are strong,
certainly stronger than they used to be.
And I bet you feel that way too.
Yeah, I don't want to be, I don't want to be hobbled.
I feel like my knees have never been that strong.
And like all the other parts are the same.
Yeah, I just want to be able to do whatever I want to do physically,
you know, within a reason.
I'm very, very glad that I did.
I started the program that I'm doing now.
I would like to speak rapidly.
I told Ashley there was a, there was a bike race here in Louisville in May
that I did not do.
And I told Ashley the other day, I was like, I think I'm going to do that next year.
And she was like, you're making plans for something that's going to happen next year.
I was like, yeah, I think so.
Yeah, what's wrong with that?
Is that abnormal for you?
I, it's just a long way away, right?
I'm, I'm trying very hard to get my weight loss obligation done by the end of the year.
And then focus all of my caloric energy on being very strong and very fit.
Yeah, I love it.
It's amazing how fast it gets away from it too.
I'm like, I'm not the critical health at all, but nobody needs to think that.
But it's, it's like a never ending project.
I think I've shared that podcast that you and I talked about with a half dozen people.
I don't know if anyone's listened to it.
I, if James Houghton, if you haven't listened to it, you told me you would.
So listen to it.
What was the name I showed?
Perform or performance?
Yeah, the name of the series is called.
Listen to a couple more.
Um, they're all, they've all been super interesting.
The ones that I've listened to.
Well, I'm getting old, babe.
And but you're, but we're, we're, we're not getting old in the negative,
in the negative way, hopefully.
Sure.
What I do know is if you look at the analytics for slip angle,
do you know that we are older than our demographic?
Of course.
I wonder how many of like the 2015 listeners are still around.
I don't even know how we would find that.
I mean, the first like what four years we're literally in a different,
different hosting thing that's gone now.
This is super interesting.
I haven't looked at this in a little bit.
I would say two years ago, 90 plus percent of our plays were coming from Apple podcast.
And now it's only about 32% where the other primary, uh, source is Spotify.
Spotify is what I used to play everything now.
Weird.
Everything changes all the time.
Does.
That's the only thing, right?
We're changing changes all the time.
Change that.
Well, we had a good Midwest and hopefully we made a high was great.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to road America.
I'm stressed about, you know, the money and the budget and everything, but.
That's, that's at this point, it's not really your cross to bear, right?
Like you, you can make, you can care that it gets done well, but you're,
you're not the responsible party anymore.
I mean, still am not as much as Chris and Michael.
Well, that's not, that's like, that is not your immediate obligation is what I'm saying.
It's their job.
Well, we had like a two and a half hour call about the road America budget yesterday.
Oh yeah.
It's still my job a little bit.
But I'm the dumbest person in the room on those calls.
It's just lovely.
It's a good place to be.
I like being the dumbest person on, you know, in a meeting.
Yeah.
And then you're like, Oh, these people got the shit under control.
Yes.
Super nice.
At least be able to hope that they have it on.
Yeah.
Well, I think we did a show.
Thanks everybody for listening.
I think before I let everyone go, I'm going to go to the website if it still exists.
And you can buy shirts.
They're inexpensive.
I have a bunch of them and they're the nice ones, like the nice, nice ones,
like they used to be.
We love those shirts.
And I saw one, I saw one at Midwest.
It was pretty stoked to see that.
So if you've bought one in the past, buy another one because yours is probably worn out.
Go to tracktune.com slash store, buy a shirt and I'll ship it to you.
And I might even like write a handwritten note to say thanks.
Will you write it with your fancy pen?
Yeah.
That's how I write fancy notes.
He's got a fancy pen.
I'm a fancy boy.
You are a fancy boy.
I love it.
Well, let me get one knocked out.
Hopefully we do more of these.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, thanks everybody for listening.
Have a great week and we'll probably talk to you after Mid-Ohio.
Yes.
Maybe we do one while I'm like in yellow.
No, let's not do that.
You're supposed to be on vacation.
Sounds like a fun thing to do.
All right.
Talk to you later, buddy.
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