Scott and Seth talk about how the racing calendar feels different when you’re not in full “one lap” prep mode, then shift into a deeper discussion on why trophies still matter. They debate the meaning of metal-and-wood hardware in amateur motorsport versus the emotional value of what the effort represents. The conversation includes Becky’s upcoming Gridlife season and support roles, plus personal trophy stories from motorcycles, rallycross, running, and even hockey—highlighting how memories, not the hardware, keep the significance alive.
"Hi, I'm Scott, and I'm Seth, and we are track walking tonight.
We talk about some more self-realization stuff that I had recently."
Track walking means people walk the race track to study it on foot. They look at where turns start and end and where braking happens, so they’re better prepared when they drive.
Track walking is when drivers (or teams) walk the circuit to study the layout, braking zones, corner entry/exit points, and where visibility is limited. It’s especially useful for learning a track before the first practice session so you can plan lines and reference points.
"she wants to do four competition weekends with Gridlife.
Kind of the full season of season championship worth four.
And she's got some goals kind of built in within that and she wants to go try hard."
Gridlife is an organization that puts on racing/track events for car enthusiasts. Doing multiple Gridlife weekends usually means a planned series of events across the season.
Gridlife is a motorsports event and track-day/club racing organization that runs competitive weekends for enthusiasts. When someone says they want to do four competition weekends with Gridlife, they’re talking about a structured season of events rather than a single casual track day.
"...I need mooncake. Becky's car to, uh, get good enough to get out of the garage so I can, uh, get the Miata back up to where I want it to be. [357.3s] It's totally fine."
A Miata is a Mazda MX-5 Miata, a small lightweight sports car that people often take to track days. They’re saying they want to get their Miata back to where it’s ready to drive the way they want.
“Miata” refers to the Mazda MX-5 Miata, a lightweight, track-friendly roadster that’s popular for club racing and track days. In this segment, they’re talking about getting the Miata back to the performance/condition they want for driving events.
"[358.6s] Like I just like new air dam, like basic stuff like that.
[362.8s] So,"
An air dam is a front-end aerodynamic panel that helps manage airflow under and around the car. “New air dam” usually means improving cooling and reducing drag, and it can also change how the car behaves at speed.
"[396.9s] I got some of those, um, wheel dollies, the Harbor freight wheel dollies too.
[402.9s] Yeah."
Harbor Freight is a discount tool retailer known for budget-friendly automotive shop equipment. “Wheel dollies” from Harbor Freight are being used as a practical, low-cost way to move or position a car in a garage or workshop.
"[396.9s] I got some of those, um, wheel dollies, the Harbor freight wheel dollies too.
[402.9s] Yeah.
[403.4s] Holy shit."
Wheel dollies are little rolling platforms you put under the tires so you can move the car around. They’re handy for garage work and parking the car without lifting it.
Wheel dollies are small platforms that let you roll a car’s wheels without lifting it with a jack. They’re commonly used for storage, maintenance, or moving a car in a garage—especially when you want to avoid repeated jacking.
"And so it gets stored in the winter time because it's Michigan car and like figuring out how to jockey it around was always a little bit of a hassle."
Storing a car over winter is a common practice in cold climates to reduce wear from salt, slush, and frequent short trips. It often changes how owners handle movement and maintenance, since the car may sit for months and then needs careful repositioning when it’s brought back.
They’re talking about how getting just a little extra space—about six inches—makes the garage much easier to use. That small amount can be the difference between struggling and being able to move the car comfortably.
“Six inches of room” highlights how tight garage clearances affect car handling and access. In real ownership, a few inches can determine whether you can open doors fully, use a dolly safely, or avoid bumping shelves/walls.
"[535.6s] Outstanding podium, podium for everyone.
[537.8s] Um, and then yeah, our 10th place trophy as well."
The “podium” is the top finish in a race. Usually it means first through third place, and it’s where winners get celebrated.
“Podium” refers to finishing in the top positions of a race—typically first, second, and third. When a speaker says “podium for everyone,” they mean multiple drivers/entries achieved top-three results.
"[537.8s] Um, and then yeah, our 10th place trophy as well.
[544.4s] And, um, you know, as it does after the one lap, things get busy with the race season."
That means they finished 10th in the race or competition. Even if it wasn’t a top-three result, they still got recognized for the placement.
A “10th place trophy” indicates the team/driver placed 10th overall in their event or class. In motorsports, trophies for specific finishing positions are common even when you don’t make the podium.
"...because we, we talk a lot of shit about trophies. And I think honestly... We know how objectively meaningless trophies are... But most trophies in amateur motor sports..."
The conversation is basically about how trophies in amateur racing usually don’t matter much. They’re more like a nice keepsake than a real measure of skill—unless it’s a big, well-known championship.
In amateur motorsports, trophies are often treated as symbolic rather than truly reflective of performance. The discussion frames them as “objectively meaningless” in most cases, except when tied to major, historically significant championships.
"...unless you have like the Stanley cup or the MotoGP trophy or something where it puts your name and it's a continuation of, you know, like, like a historical winning thing."
MotoGP is a top-level motorcycle racing series. The speaker is saying that trophies from major pro racing feel more meaningful because they connect to a real, ongoing competition.
MotoGP is the premier motorcycle road-racing series, and its trophies/championship awards are tied to an established competitive history. The speaker mentions it to contrast with amateur trophies that they see as less meaningful.
"...unless you have like the Stanley cup or the MotoGP trophy or something where it puts your name and it's a continuation of, you know, like, like a historical winning thing."
The Stanley Cup is a famous championship trophy in hockey. The speaker is using it as an example of a trophy that actually feels important because it’s part of a big, long history.
The Stanley Cup is the championship trophy awarded in the NHL. In the context of the conversation, it’s used as an example of a trophy that feels meaningful because it’s tied to a long-running, historical winning tradition.
"And not unless you happen upon a car from that era and you're like buying it to restore it and stuff. Yeah. Right."
Restoring a car from a specific era is a common reason enthusiasts track down obscure race cars and period-correct details. In this context, it ties racing history to ownership—finding an old car and bringing it back to its original look/spec.
"I mean, at least all the like with social media and the internet and everything like that, like at least things are better documented now than they were back then."
They’re saying today it’s easier to find information about cars and races because everything is online. Back then, it was much harder to track down details.
The speaker credits modern social media and the internet for better documentation of racing results and car history. For enthusiasts, this can mean easier verification of provenance, photos, and race context compared to the pre-internet era.
"So I want to throw a hypothetical out there because before you do because really up till now, you know, we've, we've gotten a few trophies from the one lap. We got a third."
“Third in class” means finishing third among cars in the same competition category (class), not necessarily third overall on the track. Class racing is common in track days and amateur motorsport because it groups cars with similar rules and performance potential.
"And that's like, that's when we were up against super K and who else beat us? Very fast cars. Right. More than 200 horsepower that we brought."
Horsepower is a measure of how much power the engine makes. If the other cars have over 200 horsepower, they’re likely to be faster when accelerating and on straights.
“More than 200 horsepower” is a reference to engine output, which strongly influences straight-line speed and acceleration. In class competition, a horsepower gap can be a big advantage, so the speaker’s point is that they were up against cars with substantially more power.
"Becky made me this little wooden framed picture of my car when it was bright red with a shiny black hard top lowered on the, um, were they eight inch wheels?"
A hard top is the solid, rigid roof you can put on a convertible instead of the fabric roof. It usually makes the car feel more “closed up” and can help with weather.
A “hard top” is a rigid roof panel used on some convertibles/roadsters to replace or supplement the soft top. It typically improves weather protection and can change the car’s look and sometimes its weight distribution compared with the soft top.
"On the, um, were they eight inch wheels? Yeah. On 15 by eight inch wheels and God, the car looked good."
That’s the size of the wheels: 15 inches across the top, and 8 inches wide. Wider wheels can let you run wider tires, which can help the car stick better.
“15 by eight inch wheels” describes wheel size: 15-inch diameter with an 8-inch width. Wider wheels can fit wider tires, which can improve grip and steering response—especially relevant for track-focused setups.
"of trophies around from racing motorcycles because I did it for, or have been doing it for whatever six seasons."
They’re describing motorcycle races. These events usually have season standings (championships) and also separate awards for each race.
The speaker is talking about motorcycle racing rather than cars. In motorcycle series, riders often compete for both overall championships and individual race results, which is why trophies/medals come up.
"Um, we want a bunch of championships. I want a bunch of individual championships like metals too."
A championship is the season-long competition. You earn points across many races, not just one event.
“Championships” refers to a season-long points battle where riders accumulate results across multiple races. Winning a championship is different from winning a single race, and it’s common for series to award both overall titles and per-race recognition.
"Um, in the only other motorcycle trophy I kept was, I think it was a second place Grom trophy from an endurance race that was the second endurance race we ever did. It was the six hour at the track by my house when I fell and broke my collarbone."
An endurance race is a longer race where you have to keep going for a while. It’s usually about steady riding and not breaking down, not just speed for a few minutes.
An endurance race is a longer-duration event where the goal is to keep riding consistently and reliably over time, not just win a short sprint. Strategy often includes pacing, rider changes (if it’s a team event), and managing fatigue and mechanical wear.
"And I kept that, I kept, uh, I have a SCCA rally cross regional second place trophy from when I was seriously rally crossing."
SCCA is a big U.S. club that runs car competitions. “Rallycross” is a timed event on a course that usually mixes surfaces, and “regional” means it’s part of a local/area series rather than the biggest national level.
SCCA refers to the Sports Car Club of America, which organizes amateur and club motorsports events. “Rally cross” (often written as autocross-style rallycross) is a format where cars run timed laps on a mixed-surface course, and “regional” indicates a sanctioned competition level below national events.
"That's when I had, that was actually between autocrossing. I had started autocrossing before my, before my first was born and I quit after about three years..."
Autocrossing is a kind of racing where you drive through a course made of cones. It’s usually held in a big open area, and you’re trying to be fast and accurate through the turns.
Autocrossing is a motorsport where drivers navigate a marked course with tight turns, typically on a parking lot or airfield. It’s usually about driver skill and car setup rather than outright top speed.
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Hi, I'm Scott, and I'm Seth, and we are track walking tonight.
We talk about some more self-realization stuff that I had recently.
Oh, good. I have no idea what we're talking about.
So this is going to be fun.
Yeah, it's strange to me to be at this stage of the calendar year
and not have the one laugh prep kind of in full swing at this point.
Because that has been our life for the last eight years.
Right.
You know, in some years were more prep than others, let's say.
But yeah, to be at this stage and not be working towards that particular event is strange.
Because you know when Christmas gets done and the holidays get done,
like you've got X number of weeks and it's not that many number of weeks
before you really need to be deep into prep because you're going to run out of time.
Yeah, the beginning of May comes around very quickly when you live in a place that doesn't really warm up until mid-March.
Right.
The calendar gets compressed somewhat.
So like we are prepping, we are working.
If anybody hasn't seen, Becky is going to be doing Sunday Cup this year.
She has a ticket for CMP.
We need a ticket for Midwest Fest.
So if anyone's looking at getting rid of a ticket, hit me up or hit Becky up.
Hit one of us up.
But yeah, she wants to do four competition weekends with Gridlife.
Kind of the full season of season championship worth four.
And she's got some goals kind of built in within that and she wants to go try hard.
She drove Sunday Cup kind of right before like right at the end of hey Sunday Cup is fun.
We'll go do Sunday Cup right at the transition between fun and like this is real yo.
She got, she started competing the year that it kind of got it elevated.
Yeah.
So maybe not full on stupid, but like it was not the good fun that it was the prior year.
It was definitely.
Yeah, it wasn't just buddy.
It wasn't just buddies doing laps anymore.
Right.
Yeah.
So she's come a long way as a driver.
We have developed the car quite a bit since then as well.
So the car, the car was good.
The car is really good now.
And yeah, we still have like three major things for maybe four major things to still do on it.
So it's going to be a thing.
I'm, I am excited to see two things to see what Becky does.
Like to really see how she performs in that environment.
I am excited to see you perform in a support role because like you, it won't be a complete
flip of when Becky was supporting you because you guys have a different, you come at it
from, from a different place, but Becky will be the driver.
Yep.
And that puts you in a different spot than you have been in the past.
So I'm curious, very curious.
Me too.
We'll see how it goes.
Yeah.
So that's, that's going to be a, you know, certainly a more, more major thing.
Yeah.
I'm going to be coaching her.
We're, yeah, we're going to have to figure out, I know I'm, I'm trying to get people lined
up to help this year because Becky, since Becky is going to be focusing more on driving,
I've got to have help.
She's got to have help because we still have other people to, you know, try to keep their
cars set up and, um, you know, be sure we're doing data and putting in all that, all that
nonsense.
So, um, got help for round one.
I think a good friend, friend of the show, Danny, uh, is going to come out to CMP and
dope.
Good friend Adam, who lives in my town, uh, also friend of the show, grid life, long
time grid life guy is going to drive down with us.
So I think that'll kind of spread the driving out a little bit better on a long ass drive
like that.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So we'll see.
Um, but yeah, I need, uh, I need mooncake.
Becky's car to, uh, get good enough to get out of the garage so I can, uh, get the Miata
back up to where I want it to be.
It's totally fine.
Like I just like new air dam, like basic stuff like that.
So,
Well, it's just been living in the trailer.
No, it's been in the garage.
Miata doesn't have a trailer.
Oh, okay.
I thought you had to move it out of like out of out of the way.
No.
No, we just had, I mean, a trailer is really just a portable garage anyway.
Yeah.
It's unheated though.
There's that part.
No, you do like your car.
Well, it's full of water and.
Oh yeah.
There's that.
I don't know if you know about bleeding of real drive case series, but it's not my
favorite.
Um, yeah.
I got some of those, um, wheel dollies, the Harbor freight wheel dollies too.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
They're amazing.
I got my father-in-law, I got my father-in-law set of those probably eight or 10 years ago.
Um, because he got a new, he built a new pole barn with really smooth floors on it.
And, um, my mother-in-law has a 94 Camaro that she bought new and she still has.
And so it gets stored in the winter time because it's Michigan car and like figuring
out how to jockey it around was always a little bit of a hassle.
And so I'm like, try these, puts it on the wheel dollies, pushes it back into the back
corner of the garage.
She's like, those are the best things in the world.
It rolls and raves about them.
It rolls so much smoother than I thought that they would.
It's amazing because again, like we, we don't have the biggest garage and we have a simulator
that's way too big.
And we have my car and then we have like shelves on the side.
And then now we have this monster too.
So like, like you can't fully open any door because it's that room.
So like to be able to scoot it like sideways a little bit, like reposition is huge.
Yeah.
To gain six inches of room is enormous.
Yes.
Yes.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's been a major upgrade.
Delighted by that.
So, but yeah, in, in not getting ready for the one lap, it's been interesting.
So last year we, after the three Cardinals kind of got situated and, you know, back to,
back to the, the factory.
Um, we sent all the trophies back with Rob because he wanted to do some, you know, some
media, some photos and stuff like that with them as you would want to.
Yeah.
He should be very proud of what you guys did.
So yes.
Um, clean sweep of the special construction class.
Outstanding podium, podium for everyone.
Um, and then yeah, our 10th place trophy as well.
And, um, you know, as it does after the one lap, things get busy with the race season.
And then after the race season, it's holiday season.
Basically.
I've got Halloween, my kid's birthday, Thanksgiving and then Christmas.
Like, and feels like immediate short order.
So yeah, we just never really got the trophies back and it's no fault of Rob's.
I just kind of forgot about them.
Right.
It's not like he's not busy either.
So he's got stuff to do for sure.
Right.
And so, um, yeah, it came out in our Cardinal group chat from last year.
It's like, Hey, we should, we should get those, we should get those.
And it kind of struck me like, I care about this.
Like I care about getting this dumb piece of metal and wood that doesn't even have
my name on it.
Right.
I care about getting that back.
And I've found that interesting.
I find that very interesting.
Yeah.
Um, because we, we talk a lot of shit about trophies.
And I think honestly, I think honestly.
Like rubber meets the road.
I think for good reason.
We know how objectively meaningless trophies are.
Yeah.
Um, unless you're, unless you have like the Stanley cup or the MotoGP trophy
or something where it puts your name and it's a continuation of, you know,
like, like a historical winning thing.
There are trophies that I think are, are significant.
Bestest driver.
Good life.
Bestest driver.
I've got my name on a trophy that hopefully will be around for a while.
Yeah.
That feels kind of cool.
That's cool.
But most trophies in amateur motor sports.
Yeah.
They're like hobby shop.
That's a lie.
That's a lie.
Some of them are cool for sure.
But like.
Yeah.
There are series that make their own, like have their own made that are,
that are pretty interesting, but they're, they're plastic and wood.
Like you said, metal and wood plastic and wood.
They're.
They're serious.
The empty cup.
The empty cup.
Yeah.
When you're 70 years old, like nobody will, these will be the kind of series that ran
in the 80s that people don't even remember existed anymore.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, does anybody care that you won like a speed world challenge third place
and in 1991.
And not unless you happen upon a car from that era and you're like buying it to
restore it and stuff.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, at least all the like with social media and the internet and everything like
that, like at least things are better documented now than they were back then.
Like trying to find info on my dad's race series from the late 70s, early 80s was hard.
Like hard, hard.
Well, cause it mattered to the people that were doing it.
Right.
And to nobody else.
And like the result sheet was literally a printed sheet that they like handed out to
the drivers.
Right.
It didn't get published.
Yeah.
Best case scenario for a lot of those things, it would, it would get published in the weekly
or a monthly newsletter type thing, which were not.
It's all that racing ephemera.
It's, I mean, it was never meant to be kept.
And so even if some of that stuff had been published in a racers weekly thing, it's gone.
It's all gone.
Yep.
I do have a small box of it.
So and it's kind of cool.
Right.
But I mean, that stuff is neat, but it's, but it's on a very personal level.
Right.
It's like after, like, I know my son will be like interested in that, like it's something
that meant something to me, but he's, he's going to be separated from it by the time,
like he gets to deal with all of my crap.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
It's his problem, I guess.
But it does matter.
It matters to you though.
Like that, that trophy, that one lap trophy has an emotional response to you.
Yeah.
And I think like the in-class trophy, I still think is cool.
Like even though, yes, we were the only three cars to enter special construction.
But still.
Like it's a class trophy is cool.
And like the other drivers in the other cars were good drivers and like I beat them.
So like that's always fun to say, but like the trophy that really means something to
me is the 10th place trophy.
Yeah.
Because that's a trophy I never thought I would get like anything in the top 10 overall
in the one lap.
I didn't think I'd have the car to be able to do it.
You know, there were certainly questions that I had that like, could I do it if I did have
the car?
And I did.
So when, when I saw the Toyota PE guys at Nashville, I did thank them for breaking down
because I'm like, that got me my 10th place.
So I appreciate you.
Which also that's what the event is about too.
Like you have to be there at the end.
Exactly.
But yeah, it, I want that trophy.
Like I want it in my library.
Do you want to just, when you walk into the room, you want to see it?
Or if it's not.
Well, I hardly go there because that's also Becky's office.
So that's kind of her domain, but that's like, that's where we keep the memorabilia
basically.
And yeah, I just like I want to look at it when I want to look at it, but to have that
up there as, and, and this was always the thing.
Okay.
I'm going to take a slight left hand to bear with me.
But like in the church, you would have these either acts, these ritual acts, or these physical
objects in the church.
And like in and of themselves, they're meaningless.
You know, it's a chunk of brass piece of wood, or like you say these words.
And like, if you just have some random person say these words, means nothing.
Maybe strange, but like, doesn't mean anything.
But these are all signs of something else.
They're symbols of this other thing.
Right.
And so to me, I've been like thinking about this, like my knee jerk reaction was, well,
I need this trophy because it's recognition, like it's outside recognition of something
that we did.
It's acknowledgement that you were, you were good.
I mean, we were 10th place good.
In that field, that's good though.
Like, like you, you know, that you would respect anybody else who had the 10th place trophy.
Yes.
Yup.
And so you can feel good about yourself because of that.
Well, and I think that's where it kind of starts to change in me because I think that
like, I always think like three ways down on like myself sometimes.
But the whole notion that like, you know, do you just need the acknowledgement?
Like, it's, you know, are you that, that needy of, you know, people to say good job?
Would it have meant as much if they only gave trophies from fifth place up and you didn't
get anything?
Would 10th place still mean as much?
I don't know.
Like you still got 10th, but it's not an acknowledged position.
Right.
I don't know.
It's a good question.
I mean, 10 is a nice round number, but yeah, I don't know.
I mean, but third, you know, the podium, they're the only ones who get, you know, the bigger
trophies and they get, you know, the, the gifts and they get in the pictures and all this stuff.
So third would feel good.
Third would feel amazing.
You know, I'd feel even better.
Second.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, I think, I think for me, like in kind of pondering this over the past few
days is that it's something that I can look at to have this kind of trigger in my mind
of an effort that led to a result because like we put a fair bit of effort into the past year.
Um, and so the result, don't get me wrong.
That's why we have the trophy, right?
Right.
That's not why we will have the trophy, but it's, um, it was hard effort and it was some
money and it was, you know, stuff had to go into getting that result.
And so that's certainly, I think a big part of it is just like, remember the year that
we tried and the, and the year that we tried came with this thing that we can look at as
an acknowledgement of that effort.
And I think that feels pretty good.
Yeah.
You, you tried really hard and it mattered.
And it worked.
Yeah.
Not even worked in that, like that's why we were going for that.
But yeah, it mattered.
Right.
So I think that's, that's one of the bigger, the bigger reasons.
I think as well, like the whole what is going to happen on the one lap is always a huge
question.
You know, even if you bring the car and you do some of the prep, like stuff can go sideways.
So there's always, there's always some fortune that kind of comes into it.
But again, to like look at a thing that triggers not only the effort, but would trigger kind
of all the question and doubts that we had leading into it.
Right.
Because in our minds, like pretty sure we can get top 20, which would be amazing.
But like, should we even dare to dream that 10th or better?
Could be a thing.
And like for me, like, no, you don't, you don't talk about that.
Right.
It happens.
That's fine.
But don't say it out loud.
Certainly.
Yo, no, no, no.
Yeah.
And there were times in that week where I'm like, Nope, there goes.
That's it.
Screwed the pooch on that one.
Um, but yeah, it's, you know, the amount of effort we put in and then the doubts and
concerns that we had, uh, just in our own performance, like can we, you know, it's still
that the morning of gateway to me, it was still like, even though it was pretty calm
about the whole thing.
I may add that card.
I like helped to fix and stuff like that.
But yeah, to have qualified that first major event the way that we did.
It's still like amazing.
It was awesome.
Yeah.
I get pumped thinking about it.
Uh, I passed the purple, the Kentucky boys Corvette, which yeah.
That's, I love those guys very much.
And then it made me feel pretty cool.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, it just to have that would be good.
So I want to throw a hypothetical out there because before you do because really up till
now, you know, we've, we've gotten a few trophies from the one lap.
We got a third.
What do we do?
We've got two from our time with mooncake.
Yep.
We had a third in class the last year of the Miata.
Oh, that's right.
And that's like, that's when we were up against super K and who else beat us?
Very fast cars.
Right.
More than 200 horsepower that we brought.
Yeah.
Um, and yeah, again, that like little trophies, the memory of that year, which we
for counted plenty of times, but that was a wild time.
Um, and then otherwise, like I used to collect grid life wristbands, like for all the events
that I did, just like hang them, like not just like I won this HPD sort of thing,
but like I was out there doing the thing and Becky made me this little wooden
framed picture of my car when it was bright red with a shiny black hard top lowered
on the, um, were they eight inch wheels?
Yeah.
On 15 by eight inch wheels and God, the car looked good.
There are no stickers, just a clean Miata and so I can remember what I ruined, but
yeah, but like we've got that and it's just, it's just good.
Like, you know, doing the things it's kind of like keeping it's almost like keeping
tickets for like shows that you went to or plane tickets when you used to like get
an actual plane ticket.
Right.
Just like keeping those things like, Hey, you remember that?
I do.
And maybe that's the sign that I'm getting old because I like thinking about the things
I have done.
So, so my hypothetical, if, if last year weren't your last one lab and it may not be
your last one that you may have more, more in the tank at some point in the future.
I don't think it will be my last one.
So you've got a 10th place trophy.
Let's say you do it again.
You get an eight.
You're getting a ninth, you get a seventh, you get another 10th.
You're doing good.
And now you have a rack of one lab trophies in that top 10 thing.
Do they mean as much as a group as, as one individual trophy?
I think it, I think at that point it'd be more about the story narrative from one year
to another.
Like because that's, that's kind of been this, every one lap we've done, like it's been
a different experience.
Um, maybe not wholly, but like, you know, the first year we did the one lap in the
Miata was very different than the third year that we did the one lap in the Miata, which
was a huge change from the years we did it in mooncake with the Sunday cup crew.
Um, and then, you know, we went way wild.
The first year we did it in the Cardinal and Becky and I weren't even on the same
team and then we had the reunion tour this last year.
Um, you know, with a more prepped capable car and yeah, and did the thing.
So like, I would like to think that it wouldn't overshadow the accomplishment and
the effort and the, the whole doubt thing of going into this year.
I think it would be about something different though.
Like this year we had this car and we hoped to do that.
Like I, I, I don't know what it would be, but I hope that it would be a different
story and a different set of like trigger memories that it would signify.
Does that make sense?
It does.
And I admit that I asked this is a loaded question because I want to tell my story.
So yeah, you, you have some trophies as well.
Yeah.
So because we just moved and we moved to a smaller place, um, I had, I had a bunch
of trophies around from racing motorcycles because I did it for, or have been doing
it for whatever six seasons.
Um, we want a bunch of championships.
I want a bunch of individual championships like metals too.
Yeah.
For the individual races, they give out metals.
Um, now for the last like four years they've done that they used to give out trophies.
So the first couple of years we did it, like they would get stacks and stacks of
these little trophies and, um, Sony and I eventually took the bases off of all of
them. So the bases had a plaque on it.
So that would tell you what it was.
We had these little marble bases.
And so I still have a stack of those in the garage that need to be thrown away.
Um, and Sonya still had a stack of those.
She sells a stack of them somewhere, but when I was, so I would put these on, on
the bookshelf, you know, in front of the books and laying sideways on top of the
books and we're cleaning stuff off and I have to decide what I'm going to keep.
Um, I can keep all of them.
Shannon told me keep all of them if you want to keep all of them.
I was like, but is that like, is, do I want to keep all of them?
And why do I, why do I want to keep any of them?
Um, because like, if you talk about a race series that doesn't matter to
anyone outside the people participating racing, tiny motorcycles, you know,
in, in East and central Texas is literally just important to the 80 or 100 people
that do it. Nobody else cares.
Limited audience.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I kept, I kept one championship trophy from, um, when Sonya and I race
together the season we did that, we did that together, um, which was whatever
two seasons ago because that was, that is the story of she and I soloing a bunch
of races individually and working together to do that thing.
And that's like a really special thing that we did together.
Um, in the only other motorcycle trophy I kept was, I think it was a second
place Grom trophy from an endurance race that was the second endurance race we ever
did. It was the six hour at the track by my house when I fell and broke
my collarbone.
Oh yeah.
And there was just two of us riding because the other guy in our team had
broken his leg like three weeks earlier.
And I've told that, I've told the story before, but that trophy still had, um,
the wristband from the hospital on it.
I took that off my wrist and, and hung it over one of the little pointy things
on the trophy and it's been there for years just sitting up on the, on the
shelf, um, a trophy with a hospital wristband hanging on it.
Um, that's a good story.
Yeah.
That like that whole thing is a really good story.
It is, it is such a form.
It's such a memory of racing motorcycles in general, like really early on.
And why was it important for me to keep riding with a broken collarbone?
It wasn't, but it also was.
Um, so yeah, like that's a whole thing.
And I kept that, I kept, uh, I have a SCCA rally cross regional second place
trophy from when I was seriously rally crossing.
Um, and I kept that just because the memory of rally crossing was really important
to me.
Um, I did that thing with that group of people, um, and still have friendships
out of it.
Um, that's where I met Texas Dave, um, and he's still a good friend of mine.
That's where I met Brian to freeze.
Um, so like that was really important for me to keep.
Um, I kept a, a five K, uh, run trophy from when I used to run local races
competitively, um, as a memory that something outside motorsports was important
to me.
Okay.
Um, and it's a silly little trophy.
It was the bunny run.
It was an Easter time run.
It's just a little acrylic trophy, a little rabbit on it.
Got a second place.
Didn't, didn't matter except for me in that time it mattered.
Hmm.
Okay.
Um, like the, the activity or the effort or something like, like it was important
enough to me to compete and try to do well, to train for it, to compete, to try
to do well on the most local level, um, during that time in my life.
That's when I had, that was actually between autocrossing.
I had started autocrossing before my, before my first was born and I quit
after about three years because I had two little children at home and auto, you
know, leaving for an entire day when my wife had worked for a whole week.
Um, and did that.
It was like not cool.
So I stopped autocrossing for whatever five years, six years and then started
again when my kids were bigger.
Um, and during that time I did some bicycle rides.
I ran a half marathon, ran five Ks.
Like I did, I couldn't do nothing.
So I had to do something.
And these were sort of like the thing that I did in, in the interim.
Um, and so I had to look around at all of these memories, like you say, like,
like everything on a shelf, everything on the shelf was a memory of where I was
in life and the people I was doing those things with.
And the fact that it signified that I did well in those times kind of didn't
matter to me at all because it's such a, all of them are such weird local stages.
Like they don't, they don't matter, but on those days where I did well, they
were very important to me.
Sure.
Um, so it kind of, kind of reminds me too.
When I was a kid, I played a hockey and you know, I had hockey trophies.
I had a bunch of hockey pucks that they gave out for like player of the game sort
of thing.
And I remember like through some of the moves that I had and stuff like that,
like I definitely threw all those away because at some point it's like, that
was cool, but like I'm doing this other thing now, right?
Right.
I'm not a hockey player anymore.
I'm not a hockey player, but it also like even at the time, like it just, it
didn't mean it wasn't meaningful anymore.
Like the, the effort, this, the struggle, the camaraderie, it just, like, I guess
I had other things to replace those with.
So like I didn't need them anymore.
And as in, as older Scott, do you wish you kept one?
Yeah, I was kind of thinking about that.
Like right before I, I shared that and I don't think so.
Like honestly, I'd probably use the hockey pucks as like jack pucks under cars and
stuff.
They'd be cool jack pucks.
They would be.
Yeah.
I kept like a couple of my jerseys for quite a while afterwards.
Um, but those are well and gone.
I think my mom kept one longer than I did.
Um, cause it meant more to her.
Right.
It did me.
Um, yeah.
So it's interesting.
Like if I'm kind of holding on to these trophies from the one lap and stuff
like that right now, because I just don't have the next thing.
Oh yeah.
Like I don't, I don't know.
I mean, I don't, I'm not in a hurry to find the next thing.
To be honest, like motorsports feels like it's in me pretty good now.
And you know, the whole coaching thing, that's, I really want to have some
longevity too.
Yeah.
So, but yeah, I found that interesting that it's, I didn't need them anymore.
The hockey trophies that is.
Right.
Right.
Right.
And may, maybe motorsports.
I mean, maybe at some point you'll be like, that was great.
I don't need these.
I can just take pictures of them and.
Or like, yeah, I mean, I could definitely see it as one of those things.
I can the corner of a library.
Hey grandpa, what are those?
Oh, it's just something your grandma and I used to do, you know, sort of thing.
Right.
Um, yeah, I, I don't know.
Yeah.
I feel like, you know, we used to be like as a culture, we used to be more keep
shaky about stuff, like, you know, collecting spoons from, you know, the
different places that you visited, right?
Yeah.
You remember that hobby that hits hard because my wife got rid of the her
spoon collection that she had as a child recently.
Oh, or shot glasses or like whatever it is.
But like, she had shot glasses too.
I mean, who doesn't?
Um, but like the whole notion of like having collections, I feel like it's
almost gone.
Yeah.
Um, my kids are way different about it than I was.
Yeah.
Um, and I tend to be a throwaway guy anyway.
Like if throwing stuff away is like my love language.
I love it so much, but God, you'd love my garage right now.
Oh dude, I would throw so many things away without recourse and without any
sentimentality.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I could do what you can't come visit.
I could do what you could not.
Um, I know, but yeah, I thought that was interesting.
And I'm looking forward to getting the trophy here and putting it on a shelf.
Honestly, just nestling it up with all the other trophies that all mean
something to you for reasons you can't fully articulate yet.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to that.
Good.
I'm happy that that shelf will feel more complete for you when that trophy, when
those trophies are our home trophy also looks cool.
So like, yeah, I mean, that helps.
You know what it means.
I do.
So.
Yeah.
Have you gotten rid of any trophies?
And why, or have you kept trophies and why?
And do you have any collections?
I bet I know we've got people with collections, but like, but like going
around and collecting things from places sort of thing.
I don't know, or keeping concert tickets or race tickets or, you know, those,
those sort of collections that were, let's say we're common in the 80s.
Yep.
That don't seem to exist anymore.
So I want to hear about that.
Something.
Yeah.
Um, and you can share them in discord, which the link is in the show notes.
It's kind of where we, uh, we hang out and we like to talk to people, uh, like
you, so hit the link.
Uh, we are at track walking podcasts on the socials.
And if you want to help the show, uh, like, subscribe, review and share.
I haven't got that in a rhythm nearly as well as I just did.
So there you go.
Good job.
Good job.
Thanks buddy.
Um, yeah, trophies.
They'll do it for us this week.
I'm Scott and I'm Seth talk to you next.
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