A track day is when people bring their cars to a race track just to drive them hard in a controlled setting. It’s usually more about learning and having fun than winning a race.
On a track, you usually keep going around the same loop over and over. It can sound boring as “circles,” but the fun comes from how you ride or drive through corners.
“Fully gutted” means stripping out a lot of the car’s interior to make it lighter and more race-focused. It usually feels more raw and less comfortable, similar to how a motorcycle feels.
“Track time” refers to time spent driving on a racetrack, often at track days or racing events. It’s commonly used as a measure of seat time and learning—more track time usually means more experience with car setup, braking points, and driving lines.
Lap times are how long it takes to do one full lap on a race track. The speaker is saying they eventually wanted to stop obsessing over the numbers and just enjoy driving.
The transmission is what helps the engine’s power get to the wheels. If it’s being rebuilt, it usually means the car needs to handle more stress or shift better.
They’re talking about driving for fun, not because you have to. Like taking a trip to enjoy yourself or hang out, even though the car is still just the thing that gets you there.
They mean taking a drive just because you like being in the car and driving, not because you need to go somewhere. For car people, the drive is the point.
A “sand trap” is a patch of loose sand where your tires can lose grip and start digging in. Once that happens, the car may not be able to get out easily.
Guardrails are the barriers along the side of the road. They’re saying this road didn’t have them, so if you made a mistake, there was nothing to stop you from going off the edge.
Switchbacks are those winding zig-zag turns you see on hilly roads. They’re tricky because you have to slow down and steer carefully, especially on dirt.
A tow rig is the vehicle you use to pull something heavy, like a trailer or another car. It usually drives differently than your normal car because it’s carrying extra weight.
Off-roading means driving on dirt, rocks, or rough trails instead of paved roads. The idea is that off-roaders expect tougher conditions and plan for recovery if they get stuck.
“Driving for fun” means taking a car out just to enjoy the experience, not because you have to go somewhere. The idea is that some people still treat driving like a hobby.
Off-road vehicles are made for rough trails, not smooth roads. The speaker is saying some people commute in them even though it can make the trip worse.
Heel-and-toe is a way of downshifting smoothly while braking. You blip the throttle so the engine speed matches, which makes the car feel smoother and more controlled.
Horsepower is how strong the engine is. The point here is that even if the number sounds modest, the Viper can still feel extreme because of how it’s built and how it delivers power.
An “event car” is basically a car that makes even a normal errand feel like something special. It’s usually because the car is unusual, loud, or just not something you see every day.
“Lowered” means the car sits closer to the ground than stock. It can look better and sometimes handle better, but it may ride rougher and scrape more easily.
“Chassis” refers to the vehicle’s underlying structure and suspension mounting points—what determines ride/handling potential. The speaker says they’d be interested in the Prowler “for the chassis,” implying the platform is the main appeal even if other aspects aren’t.
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Hi, I'm Scott, and I'm Seth, and we are track walking tonight I'm not in the mood
you know what would have made your day better walking a popsicle I just had a
popsicle and I mean granted it's probably still cold there and it's
hot as hell here but I hear here's the thing with popsicles and me it's like
you just lick a popsicle and you get a little bit of flavor and a lot of cold
versus ice cream you get a lot of flavor and a lot of cold yeah it's ice cream
it's just so involved though so I have a I've got a big package of flavor ices in
my freezer right now like so you just snip off the end yeah yeah you just snip
up the end squeeze it up bite a chunk off it's just so good yeah it's we've
got some of those it's is probably the cheapest easiest way to like get
neighborhood kids thinking that you're cool because you buy like what is it like
a pack of 30 of them for like two bucks or something yeah you throw them in the
fridge and everyone's got their favorite color so when my kid goes out to play
it's like hey you guys want some freeze pops and we're like yeah and then I get
to be the cool dad who hands about you took like 78 cents and freeze pops
outside it's amazing nailed it yeah I don't know it's like it's just like ice I
don't like crunching ice it's okay partially a texture to thing too I just
don't I don't want I'm just saying it's hard to be sad when you're eating a
popsicle that's that's all but apparently for you it's not we are I am
working helping to renovate their this town's oldest candy store and I guess
the most recent story is they were opening a small box of Heath bars to
restock their shelf and I looked at them and I'm like when's the last time
anyone's bought or eaten a Heath bar like I don't bet I don't know anyone who
like goes for a Heath bar you know what I mean I bet whoever whoever it is is
collecting Social Security guarantee yes yes and so not not saying that's bad
I'm saying yeah that's it's right up there with like hard butterscotch candies I
feel like God I love those though I hardly ever get them but they're so good
so so one of the guys who works there it's like hey well let's try one and so
popped it open and the three of us like share the bar and like definitely hard
and crunchy like toffee in the middle but it had like a maple maple leaf finish
which I didn't expect and it was kind of cool and then they're a complex candy bar
yeah and then the manager it's like but have you ever had a score bar
oh those are like richer though it's a darker yeah so I didn't even know that
these existed apparently supposedly Hershey's oldest candy bar SKOR score really yes okay
and yeah you open it up a very similar like experience but yeah the chocolate is not the
Hershey's chocolate that we know now it's definitely a little darker richer a little bit more better
it's it's a thing it's a thing yeah it's caramel in general so make you know caramel to toffee
sort of that hard caramel thing right you can have such a richness and difference in flavors
in it I should eat that more I should go should go buy some caramel I mean I like coffee
love a good roll I think rollers have fallen off in the last 15 years or so I think they changed
yeah I used to like rollers more than I like rollers now I still like rollers probably your
taste buds changed over probably yeah yeah I'm an old man and now I need to buy heath bars
and butterscotch apparently yeah so I've been walking well I'm not walking a lot now
because I'm back in Texas but I was just out in Durango and I was walking a bunch and
yes my third time in Durango I'm flying so much like I've been through the Denver airport
so many times every I get off the gate and into Denver again and just like uh this place again
so it's I've spent time in that airport it's I feel like every airport kind of has its own vibe but
the Denver definitely does because you go like to that downstairs and you hop on the little
train passageway thing and it's weird strange yeah it's I mean it's fine it's an airport
you'd go around on the train it's got food there they've got great chargers now like around the
seats um good chargers but I just don't want to be there anymore it's one of those things
it's also nowhere near Denver yeah like the nice is the nicest grocery store in your town is not
like a fun place to hang out it's just a grocery store and that's kind of how I feel about Denver
right now that's right um but I've been I've been in Durango I've been walking um and I was thinking
about this is going to sound odd but it's going to take us back to driving um but I was thinking about
like a classifications of walking how you walk what you're doing when you walk I couldn't come
in the morning with my wife um she's commuting she's going to work and she's going to work
and like I walk to the grocery store and I'm and so I'm walking with um like I'm walking to go
somewhere and I walk to the library and I'm walking to walk to the library and we've got a
there's there's the bike path there it's a good safe place to walk I've walked on it a billion times
now um nothing's new although like the deer will still surprise you and things like that
and um it struck me that prior to moving to Durango I didn't commute by foot
probably since college
yeah yeah most of us most of us don't live close enough to work or even things that we need
right on a regular basis and so that gave me thinking of like well walking is community
like what are the other things I do while walking okay um because I'm not when I'm
in Durango I'm not always commuting um I also walk up into the hills above there and just like
take a walk and there's some boulders to do bouldering on and there's mountains up there and
and there's a walk like down the path along the river and I go take my binoculars and I'm mosey
I look for birds um do old man walking stuff and so that's distinctly not commuting because
I'm not walking to get anywhere I'm walking just to walk
is it uh yeah I I see what you're saying like are you but you're walking to observe
it says sometimes yeah when I'm going when I'm going birding I'm walking to go do birds
um but when I walk up into the mountains yeah I guess I am I'm going to look at the rocks
going to enjoy the sunshine um going yeah like like walking for the sake of walking
because I want to get out and see things and do things and that's distinctly different to me
it's different from the commute um sometimes I'll commute with my wife and then go back home and
eat a second breakfast and then just go take another walk and go look at the birds
much of different walks you're sounding like a hobbit actually is what you're sounding like
you have second breakfast 11 d's and you walk there's that book without the grand adventure
would have been amazing just them hanging out in the shire doing that stuff like that so you are
baggins basically yeah like I don't I don't want to do the the big ring eye of sauron nonsense I
just want to hang out in the shire and have second breakfast what's the what's the line gandalf has
great adventure or great things don't oh man I'm gonna somebody's gonna know that quote immediately
they don't they don't wait for the right time or something anyway yeah remember it I've I've
I've luckily not had any great adventures in durango it's great but that and so I was I was
thinking about parallels between cars and and walking and motorcycling and um and motorcycling
I do very little riding with a purpose the almost all of my motorcycle riding is just
going out for the joy of riding not on track we're talking yeah not on track we're gonna
get to the we're gonna get to the track part but um I I do especially when I was living in Texas
my my purposeful you know going to the grocery store going to do all of those things was in a car
and then if I wanted to go enjoy myself on roads I took a motorcycle every time
and I was just I was thinking about that I'll come back to that but I was definitely thinking
about that and then I was thinking well what's the the other thing I do with cars not as much
anymore but with motorcycles is I do competition stuff with them which is a different time and place
of driving um you're definitely like not going anywhere when you're racing I mean you're driving
a tiny little circle in comparison sure um and we could go ah yeah it's just for the competition
but also we go do hbds or or track days or motorcycle days where I'm just driving for
like the pure joy of the motion maybe in the in the sensations
but you're not going to see anything right you're just driving in circles because it's fun to
drive in circles um yeah I think what strikes me first about this is that you've managed to keep
bikes and your four-wheel vehicles distinctly separate so you really only get on a bike
when you want to you really only get on a bike to like go do something enjoyable
so like you don't like you said like you don't commute in a bike you don't take the trash out
on the bike like you don't do mundane things on a bike yeah right that were that kind of
reminds me when the miata could be taken like on a drive back when that was I like I remember the
first year I had it I could put my tools in the trunk and Fridays I would generally take it into
work and drive my race car and it was like a fun little thing I got to do and you know would kind
of brighten up my commute you know could enjoy you know even something like a commute or something
like that but it was distinctly different when I was in that car versus you know my monster three
yeah fully gutted race car is trending towards motorcycle as far as the experience yeah definitely
yes certainly so with walking the the the parallel with track time has got to be running
and this is going to be a stretch but I was thinking about thinking about this there was a
time in my life when I did run competitively and you can't see air quotes on the podcast but I'm
definitely air quoting what competitively means for me but I ran 5k's I ran a half marathon
I did a ton of training for those in which I was just out running but I was I always knew
how long I'd been running and I knew the distance and I you know knew what my pace was and sort of
it was a it was a different experience because I had
it was it was walking for something
because I never have been in a situation where I would just go for a run because it feels good
like that's that's 100% not how I am running is running is something that I'm glad that I did
but it's very seldom something I'm glad that I'm doing
I mean you're not going to get any arguments from me on that
right but but again in Durango I'm on the bike path and I see a ton of people
out running they're participating in an activity that is I mean it yes it makes you healthier it
trains you for races it does a whole bunch of other things but but everybody's got watches on
everybody knows how far they're going they know how fast they're going there's a there's a little
bit of the parallel in the track time thing where how well you are doing is part of the fun of doing
it yeah yes and I never really thought of that before like it bothers me that I want to know
lap times when I'm on track and it took me a really long time with a motorcycle to not
do lap times when I was on track in ride just for the pure joy of motion
I'm not sure I kind of wonder if I had kept track driving if I if I would have been able
to get to the point where I literally didn't care what the time was just how laps felt
I'm not sure I ever quite got to that point um well that makes me want to go drive on track again
and see if I can just like driving for the sake of driving would it would you have to do it in
your car or a car that you own to enjoy it I don't know I mean I don't want to own a track car again
right I'm just I'm just saying like if somebody threw you the keys and said go have fun I'm not
sure you could enjoy that um there's a couple cars I could um Bob is building a new transmission
for his Kia right now I've been hearing all sorts of nonsense he's doing I think I could go drive
that car okay and just enjoy it um Dalen's been talking about the the process for fixing the
accord and I think when that car gets back together I mean it was my car so I've got like
some emotional attachment to it but I I think I could enjoy going out in that car um could I
enjoy going out in your Miata yeah I'd be pretty yeah mooncake maybe except I'm worried the mooncake
is getting pretty sharp for me um yeah I mean hard thing about I mean if I have to get you in the
car and then explain how things work right like that's probably not going to be the vehicle
to go have just fun in right right like the Miata you have to you have to know where things are
and I'm not talking about the pedals on the steering wheel just like here's how to start it
like here's you know it's got this so you don't have to drive it like that sort of thing like
there's explanation involved so so in cars I commute I drive on purpose go to the store
go to the climbing gym errands can we call those errands errands yeah because I don't have a job
so errands same thing things that you have um so and both of those can be I guess classified as things
you have to do or things that you need to do to survive although I think the work commute
at least for me tends to be distinct from errands in a way that I can't quite put words to right now
you have a choice when you go do errands for the most part that's like you've got to show up to work
on time if you want to be paid yes right but like if you're 20 minutes late to the store
what do you I mean what does even it mean to be 20 20 minutes late to the store
you're just there at a different time it's fine nobody knows yeah and like track stuff with
motorcycles and cars I got that lockdown that's an extension of competition somewhat joy of movement
but it's like it's a it's a purely recreational thing done for you
but what I I was thinking about it in motorcycles if I want to go enjoy myself on the road I take
a motorcycle all the time like you said but I don't do that in cars like I can't remember the last
time I was sitting at home and I was like I'm just going to go for a drive that's just not
something I do I haven't done since I was like 17 years old yeah and that's that's what I was kind
of sitting here thinking about is like so we've got commutes errands there's got to be some category
for like driving to go do something you want to do like you're meeting up with friends or
you're going to go see this movie or something like that like it can be a it's not something you
have to do to live it's something you want to do to you know enjoy yourself but the car is still
just a tool when you're doing that exactly but then there's the other thing of like making a trip
for no reason other than to stay in the car right and go do a thing and I want to say
I think well yeah Becky and I kind of we got together with a few West Michigan Miata
people like years ago where we met up talked about me and then drove a cool road to Grand Rapids and
like that was that was about it and I think that was like the last time we really like
drove on the street to go do it we also don't like I don't think we really have enjoyable cars
to go street drive either but when I was at Gingerman this last summer beginning of summer
James Morgan was there in his big dumb Jeep and we just went driving
there was no point to it other than to like go drive on dirt roads yep
or in sand traps or in sand traps or like trying not to get stuck in the mud
or trying to get stuck in the mud just thankfully we didn't do my brand new Subaru at that point
that's why you took your car yeah that was fun and
and then this summer my son and I went to Alaska which was
mm-hmm that was a car-based adventure like we drove every day
we took side quests to see things the whole point of that was was driving
you know we looked at the map and we were like let's drive this road it looks interesting
and that's not just a matter of where it goes but the nature of the road itself my son drove
utterly terrifying roads in the Yukon that I'm sure he will remember forever because
it's not like there's guardrails or anything there's just it drops off into absolute abyss
on the outside of these things and it's a one and a half lane wide dirt road
winding through the Yukon and as a passenger I thought it was great as a driver he thought it
was less great but we drove that road because the road looked cool and I was like yeah it's like
70 miles of dirt let's drive that it would be amazing
and so I do I'm willing to do grand and the more I thought about it the more I'm like okay I'm
willing to do like grand adventures in a car like give me an adventure and I'll be like yeah I want
to go do that in my car because it's fun to do that in a car almost always includes another person
yep that's fair because I want to share that experience with the other person in the car
it usually involves in the last few years some level of idiocy and dirt and and things like that
it's other than when we've been on I've been on the dragon a couple times with my kids
and that's fun to drive just because it's fun to drive
I've taken some weird back roads in West Virginia
just because on the map those things are super squiggly and I was like yeah I don't know what's
going on there but let's do that sometimes the not fun squiggly types like just switchbacks
turn less yeah every every now and then you screw up and it's like oh never never mind that wasn't
fun at all I've also driven some of those in the the tow rig much less fun significantly less fun
mainly for brake reasons but yeah yeah I'm yeah and there's something about the shared
the shared experience so like most of the times when I remember like going out cruising
right was down in Florida with other car friends basically we would meet up at someone's house
we'd hang out for a little while and we would all get in our respective cars and like maybe go get
some dinner and then just go drive around just be cool just have a good time being cool yep and
you know most of us didn't have like we didn't have I didn't have a smartphone at that point so like
when I was tired of it I like flashed my lights and disappeared
just gone it's like yeah beat up next time I don't know
so yeah I was just thinking about the way the way that I use cars walking made me think of how I
use cars and in my choice of transportation like if I want to if I'm sitting at home and I'm bored
I'll go take a walk if I'm sitting at home and I'm bored I'll go hop on my motorcycle
if I'm sitting at home and I'm bored I'll take a car but only if I can talk someone else into
doing something with me sure um and commuting is different most people don't wake up at 6 30 in the
morning and think god I want to walk nothing like a good brisk 40 minutes to to really wake me up in
the morning everybody's like I would rather turn that 40 minute walk into a four and a half minute
car ride yes most people um yeah probably yeah like like given the option um my wife is enjoying
her walk but she will she will tell you that there's more than a few mornings where she's like
I guess I'll walk because I should but the car's right there I would see I would turn that into a
scooter ride it's tempting um where we have the uh the big wheel kick scooters from one lap
in the garage and uh I think she's most nervous about the slight downhills after Bob broke his
collarbone and rode Atlanta well I mean let's be honest that wasn't slight and like there were
mitigating factors right it was the it was the downward s's in the rain so I mean and a very
nervous and tired Bob yeah so but I mean it's out there once once you've seen the x-ray of
Bob's shoulder it's on your mind I'm I'm recalling too when I was waterskiing down south
that we often because this was competitive water skiing so we would almost exclusively ski on the
slalom course when we were practicing slalom this is track day with a boat and skis I mean
basically yeah but weirdly probably more expensive per hour
right um mainly because of the boat and location yeah but the the thing that we always talked about
and was like kind of in the zeitgeist back then was you know every once in a while you really
should go out and just free ski like be on a big lake early in the morning that's fine if you want
smooth water but like just go turn make turns do turns you know without buoys just go out and
see what it's like sort of thing just to kind of break yourself out of the routine and the habit
of this is what this is meant for right like my slalom ski that I have still
set the world record on several occasions that type of ski to good ski it's a good ski
nowhere near the skis that they have now but like it's a good ski still well better than I am and
so when I use that ski that's built to set records basically and I go out on a slalom course like
that's where it was designed to be but not where it has to be so like the whole notion and like I'm
seeing people you know like me like selling their race cars or like kind of getting back into street
cars like I kind of get it because at a certain point or like going off-roading like maybe off-roaders
are like maybe they get it the most you know like when they get stuck like which would be
like breaking at a track day or something like that like they have winches and they have
contingency plans and they go with friends and that's like an event and thing that you talk about
as being fun that one time you got stuck to in up to the frame right that you take this thing
that you think is designed for this very specific purpose and you go do just something less knife
with it I don't know less focus play you play right yeah
what a novel idea yeah I'm not sure I'm so is that parkour is this are we basically talking
about parkour here maybe yeah that's the thing I'm not I'm not sure there's a I was gonna say I'm
bird watching or um certainly there was what's it oh god okay so here's what you need to do if
if you're romantic at all and your wife and if your wife would appreciate this I would say I am
romantic I'm super romantic before like say a Monday morning you just disappear for a few hours on
Sunday and you make like a hopscotch thing and then you just do like a bunch of drawings and like
yeah a cavern like don't step here sort of thing and then on your your walk commute to her job
you can like do hopscotch on your walk and stuff like that that would be that would be kind of
amazing yeah there you go don't tell her it was me yeah I won't even tell her it was me I'll just
be like oh look at all this amazing stuff that we can do on our way to work in the dark she's like
is it super fun is that your handwriting no why and and I didn't order a big thing of sidewalk
chalk on amazon why do you ask yeah do you guys share an amazon account we don't I mean we kind of do
but she made me get a separate one because it did the thing where you know amazon is like oh thanks
for your order and it's coming this day and all of that and when we had the same account she was
like I don't care what you ordered I need you to not have it send me an email every time you
order something I was like all right I guess I'll do my the shared account thing yeah I mean
I just I don't want to pay for prime so only one of us does and that's good enough
yeah and that's that's where we are we've got the the family thing it's just ours is set so that
it looks like we're hiding things from each other and it's really just so that I don't bother my wife
so yeah so how do we yeah I'm trying to figure out what the takeaway here is
ah go do parkour go skip go do parkour skip figure out somebody needs to tell me like the
ministry of funny walks oh yeah money python had it right 50 years ago yeah I will I will
sometimes in the middle of a walk stop and do some lunges to just like stretch out my hips
and imagine if anybody watches me do that they got to be like what happened there let's do some
like high knees too and yeah yeah but also like where there's gotta be people out there who are
just driving for fun still yes I mean just like instead of sitting there scrolling on their phone
or or watching tv they just go for a drive maybe not now with gas prices the way they are but
yeah um in the way that motorcyclists do all the time yeah yeah I mean they've made transportation
fun like intentionally
so are the people who are the people who use their bike to do their commutes or errands and
stuff like that are they taking are they sapping the fun like are they bringing fun into the mundane
and dragging fun down or are they trying to drag the mundane into fun do you know what I mean
I think they're trying to drag the mundane into fun I think that's the idea is that if I did this
same thing in a car it would just be boring and routine and by doing it on a motorcycle
it adds unless the motorcycliness to it unless they only have a motorcycle in and that's a
completely different group of people who are very interesting you know those people who have
who drive like fully off-road vehicles to work you see that every now and again you're like
why would you do that that just made everything about your drive worse and they're like yeah
but it's awesome you know your drive to work and my drive to work were both boring but mine
was boring and awesome and yours was boring and lame um yeah maybe and the second to last night
I was in Durango we ordered Chinese food and I went and got it on my scooter it was rad
you did post a picture it was so cool it was just like I'm going to get Chinese food
and I'm just like in traffic there's nothing exciting about it except do you have like one of
those old helmets like I'm just picturing like that metal like straight helmet then it comes
back a little bit just like bright red or something I've got my my yellow false face helmet with the
crash scar inside of it from from racing um that everyone will look at and go oh my god you need
to retire that helmet and I and I I've had somebody tell me that and I'm like except I know exactly
what was happening when I got this scar this big scrape on it which is I landed solidly my helmet
did not hit the ground and it was only because I was trying to like half stand up while still
sliding that my helmet went and just scraped on the ground I didn't hit the helmet on the ground
I just slid it on the ground because I'm stupid the helmet's fine it just looks ugly
just a custom paint job yeah I mean it's also also it's kind of bad ass to have a big scrape on
your helmet when you're riding around be like I did a thing did you have you done a thing because
I did a thing yeah I do I have no idea what happened to these things I do remember my dad had like
one of those old simpson bandit helmets yeah when he was racing back then and yeah of course like he
kept it and stuff like that and I have no idea what happened to it definitely would have liked to have
that on the because I think I think it also had damage from something if I don't recall what
that's what okay reminded me of it anyway yeah I think the car version is like if you've got tire
donuts on your car when Brian and I were Brian DeFries and I were driving around
West Texas in his full race car with with the tire donut on the side it's like what in the
hell is going on with this guy hashtag heartland hashtag don't put your car where it doesn't fit
exactly I'm walking has me thinking about driving has me thinking about motorcycling
has me thinking about how I use transportation whether I should be using it differently to find
more joy in my life because cars are great we're just we just use them in super boring ways
yeah I I really would like to get a fun street car but it's really not feasible right now
mainly because my driveway is pretty full as is but yeah I when I went from I'd always had fun cars
like the PT GT I really enjoyed on the street and then I went to the the first gen fit
which was really fun to drive on the street yeah those are good and then I got this Mazda 3
which gets better gas mileage it's bigger on the inside it's quieter like it's a far better
vehicle and it sparks no joy like it's not as it could be worse though it could be a it could
be an automatic right like I can still heel and toe I like it's still engaging in that way
a big part of it is the steering is just disconnected like it's electric steering
yeah so it's fine I mean it can get
oversteer on entry with brake release at mid Ohio which I've done before doing a
doing a ride along with you know one of the people I was instructing at the time but like it's just
it's not it yeah and I would like to have a fun car
I'm excited about getting the 911 back on the road yeah because that car's that car is an event
like doing anything in that is reminds me of taking a motorcycle out because it's
how it sounds how it smells all the car feels the reactions you get from people
it's a whole thing taking that car especially a car yeah yeah and it would turns any drive
into an occasion yes you don't have to take it out for for an occasion it becomes an occasion
because you took it out so really buying the experience there aren't you yeah yeah I'll take
for a ride in it someday you'll understand oh hell yeah I want that yeah I I still I keep looking
at vipers and I'm like that would be pretty dope it would be how are how expensive are like
for second gen vipers I'm not sure I'd want a first viper that the wild part is like
you look at the first gen viper which is quote unquote only 400 horsepower out of a yeah it's a
baby massive massive displacement v10 it has what cameras have these days I mean almost
it's got no abs no traction control the door handles are on the inside it's will burn your leg
like the just watch this whole thing about the first gen viper like it really hates you like it
hates the driver but like how I mean very carol shall be cobra ish of it right right the first
gen definitely got more grown up a bit and like that's the one I want but yeah prices are wild
I remember looking just after the 2008 crash I was in seminary and I was really contemplating
buying a viper and I could not morally bring myself to do that because I mean the the mental
decision that I kind of came to at that point was like a pastor cannot own a viper you just there's
no justification right for that to exist right like if my salary is based on people's tithes
I cannot own a viper right right can't can't do it that being said there were plenty of fairly low
mileage second gens that were for sale in the low 20s yeah and I still kind of had done that because
they are not 20 grand anymore that's just like commuter car money even then it was like I mean
it was a pretty nice commuter car yes but it wasn't like expensive no oh god no and apparently yeah
a lot of people in that class range like they're like well I don't really need this car and I need
the money so like right fire sale it so any no and when when I bought my 911 it was in like the
used Camry money thing it was before the prices got stupid and that was our justification too it was
like this is not an expensive car it could do something horrible and cost us a bunch of money
whatever but it is it's very cool and we should get it and what what is that car now yeah I was
about to say that could be a whole episode on talking like what is a cheap fun event car
like I mean it's a motorcycle obviously like that's yeah it would be an event you're absolutely
like you're not you're not lying right but that you have to take everything that goes
along with that and I understand why people don't yeah I don't want hardly any of that
95% of that that I don't want uh yeah I don't that's the thing I also don't know for like the money
what a fun I guess here you go people posting the discord what's what what price cap are we
putting on it it can't be more than 20 can't be more than 20 yeah so so really under 15 20
yeah sub 15 would be great but definitely sub 20 in that 15 to 20 thousand dollar range how's that
sure um what's what car makes a trip in event just by and hardship driving in hardship alone is not
classified as an event like you can't just write pure pain because I immediately can see people
posting some real nonsense yeah 1946 Jeep everything you do and it is an event because
you almost get run over by other cars every single time because it only goes 52 miles an hour how much
are prowlers these days I saw a really dope lowered one the other day I have not looked for those in a
while like I would only be interested in it for the chassis but anyway that's a well and it's an event
like you drive to Walgreens in a prowler and most people don't know what they are anymore
yeah that's it's it's wild yeah yeah so 15 to 20 on the high end has to spark joy
and kind of make wherever you're going in event we'll keep it general we'll keep it broad and
see what people can come up with yeah because it should be different for different people I could
even see a topless wrangler being that for a great many people yeah but only like mid 80s and older
boy that's a statement yeah because I like I want that I feel like for a wrangler to be an event
it has to be it has to want to hurt you or or you need to be in high school or college you know
hanging out the top loud music yeah that's true yeah that's true all right well uh yeah like we said
the link to the discord where you can share your good or bad ideas with us is down there
we are at track walking podcast on facebook and instagram mainly facebook these days but
discord is really where we hang out like share subscribe rate all that stuff and as we are kind
of starting to look at the summer break send your questions in now so we can get to them
because we'd love to hear what you guys think and uh be able to talk to you before we we do
shout for a couple months and we do our respective things for a bit fair enough
all right well it's going to do it for us this week um let's know your dumb great car ideas i'm
Scott and i'm Seth we'll talk to you next week
About this episode
Scott and Seth kick off with candy-store nostalgia (Heath vs. Score bars) and then pivot into how walking changes the mind—commuting vs. “walking for the sake of walking,” like birding or mountain strolls in Durango. That leads to a broader comparison of cars, motorcycles, and track time: bikes stay for joy, cars handle errands, and racing/track laps add measurable fun. They debate what makes a drive an “event,” share road-trip stories, and end by inviting listeners to submit their best (or worst) “cheap fun event car” ideas for summer.
