0:00 / 0:00
239 - Florida and Big Bikes

239 - Florida and Big Bikes

Track Walking May 04, 2026 52 min
0:00
0:00

About this episode

Spring break stories in Florida lead into a tour of theme parks, including Epic Universe and Epcot’s Test Track, where the hosts react to GM’s ride and the bright orange Corvette C8 Z in the exit showroom. The conversation then shifts to motorcycles: a long haul to Georgia, riding a Yamaha Tenere 700 through North Georgia’s twisty roads and rough gravel, and a funny tip-over that turns into a surprising appreciation for heavier bikes. It wraps with a college Lemons team that chose survival over speed and still finished.

Filter:
|
Technical Too Afraid to Ask
Concept

big motorcycle

"And Seth gets to know what it's like to be a big boy? ... I know what it's like to pick up a big motorcycle, that's for sure."

They mean a larger, heavier motorcycle. It’s harder to handle than a small bike, especially when you’re moving it around slowly or lifting it.

Concept

spray sun

"Ever since they came out with the spray sun, this God, this is not a car podcast right now."

They’re talking about sunscreen that you spray on instead of rubbing in. It can be easier to apply, but you can also end up using too little or too much.

Concept

pressurized cans

"Ever since they came out with like the, it's not aerosol, but like the pressurized cans of sunscreen, game changer."

They mean sunscreen comes in a can that sprays under pressure. It changes how the product goes on your skin.

Company

GM

"...And GM has always, I think, sponsored the ride. Like they've got a big,"

GM is a big car company (General Motors). In this case, they’ve been connected to the Epcot ride called Test Track through sponsorship, so the ride includes GM branding and themes.

Car

Chevrolet Corvette

"...m with GM products, the first of which being the Corvette C eight Z sitting right there and like bright ora..."

The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car made by GM. It’s designed for fast driving and is known for being one of the brand’s top performance models. When people mention “C8,” they’re talking about a specific generation of the Corvette.

Term

hybrid

"...was it the X, which has the hybrid upfront, which is blisteringly fast."

A hybrid uses two kinds of power: a gas engine and an electric motor. It can save fuel and sometimes helps the car feel quicker.

Concept

chain drive

"...there are a few different kinds of like drives. There's like the old chain drive that like, you go up and it like click, click, click..."

They’re talking about how a roller coaster can be pulled up the hill. An older chain-based system can feel rough or uneven compared with newer designs.

Concept

magnets

"...They're all magnets and it is wild. Not only how smooth, like you can actually feel..."

They’re saying newer coasters use magnets instead of a chain to move the train. The result is usually a smoother ride because the motion can be controlled more precisely.

Term

acceleration

"...when you're about to accelerate because there are these little fins... And it will accelerate you going up, which is wild..."

Acceleration just means how quickly you speed up. They’re saying the speeding-up part didn’t feel strange, but other parts of the ride did.

Term

brake shoe

"...it basically is a big brake shoe at the end. Right. There's something on your car that sticks down like some sort of fin rotor, and these giant brake shoes, like just clamp onto it."

A brake shoe is a heavy-duty friction pad used to slow things down. When it clamps onto a surface, it creates stopping force—often in a noticeable, jerky way.

Concept

slot car

"...it's basically a giant slot car, if you think about that. Like it's got a post in the ground and you can of course see it like around the track and that's kind of what's guiding you..."

A slot car is a toy car guided by a slot in the track, which constrains where the car can go. The speaker uses it as an analogy for a test-track vehicle that’s guided by a post/track feature, emphasizing how it’s “rail-like” rather than free-driving.

Concept

roller coaster

"...this wasn't a roller coaster, so to speak. Is it two dimensional or do you have up and downy stuff?... But what really stuck out to me was when you're on a roller coaster, there are certain sensations that I just expect to feel..."

A roller coaster is a track ride where you’re pulled along rails and the track shape makes you feel strong forces. They’re using it as a comparison for how the ride sensations matched what they expected.

Term

cambered corners

"...there were some whoops, definitely cambered corners, like a giant banks, like almost a half a dish..."

A cambered corner is a turn where the road or track is tilted. The higher side helps the vehicle stay planted as it goes around the bend.

Term

banks

"...cambered corners, like a giant banks, like almost a half a dish to like really get up to speed..."

Banking is when a turn is tilted like a ramp. It helps keep you from sliding outward and lets you go faster through the corner.

Term

harness or the lap belt

"...to like feel restrained against my harness or the lap belt or whatever, right?"

A harness and lap belt are seat belts/straps that hold you in place. When the car brakes or turns hard, they can make you feel more firmly held—especially if the car’s motion is abrupt.

Term

EV

"...like what kind of body do you want on your EV? Do you want the SUV? Do you want like the more open top like sports car thing, right?"

EV just means an electric car. Instead of burning gas, it uses electricity stored in a battery to move the car.

Term

deceleration zone

"...we come up to like the first deceleration zone and it was the jerkiest thing I've ever felt."

A deceleration zone is where you’re supposed to slow down. If the braking is abrupt, the ride feels jerky; if it’s smooth, it feels more controlled.

Term

switchback

"...the middle part of the ride, like they had fake trees and it was like kind of the switchback with some elevation..."

A switchback is a twisty section with sharp turns that zig-zag direction. It’s the kind of route that makes you feel how smooth and controlled the car is while turning.

Term

breaker release

"...I'm like, breaker release was pretty abrupt, don't you think? And I got like, it took me out of like the enjoyment of riding this stupid thing..."

Brake release is what happens when you stop braking and start letting off the brake pedal. If it happens suddenly, the car can jerk forward and feel uncomfortable.

Term

on and off the brake pedal

"...there's got to be a better way to present like the joy of driving than like jerky on and off the brake pedal and then go through a corner..."

This is when you press the brake and then quickly let off it again. If the car doesn’t transition smoothly, you feel a jolt instead of a steady, controlled slowdown.

Term

brake release

"So they need to hire you as a technical director to perfect brake release on their roller coasters. We can do better. We can do better."

When you slow down, the brakes have to be applied and then released. “Brake release” is how smoothly and how fast the car stops braking—too abrupt can feel jerky or unsettling.

Term

algorithm

"but I felt like with the data, like speed data, you could, you could write an algorithm that's far better than what they had to do a better job."

An algorithm is basically a set of rules a computer follows. In this case, it would use ride measurements to decide when to brake and how to adjust the rest of the ride.

Term

force it took to accelerate the car

"You'd feel like they could analyze the force it took to accelerate the car and then adapt the whole rest of the ride to that."

To speed up, you need a push (force). If you know how hard you had to push to accelerate, you can better predict what needs to happen next to slow down smoothly.

Term

calibrate it for that

"So when we go up to braking, we can calibrate it for that. Yep. Yeah. Like, all right, so this accelerated slightly slower, so we'll need to start braking slightly earlier."

Calibrating is adjusting the settings so the system works correctly for the current situation. If the ride speeds up differently, you tweak the braking to match.

Term

mass will, you know, want to fly through whatever pressure is put

"You know, just hold the maximum brakes a little bit longer. And then, you know, you'll have to release them a little bit slower, a little bit. You know, you have to drag it out a little bit more because the mass will, you know, want to fly through whatever pressure is put."

Heavier things don’t want to change speed quickly. If you slow down, the “pushback” from inertia means you may need to brake longer and release more gradually.

Term

ABS

"Maybe, maybe our GM, ABS friends will, will know somebody in GM and be like, hey, should I take a look at this?"

ABS is a safety feature that helps a vehicle brake without the wheels skidding. It keeps braking controlled so you can stay stable and maintain traction.

Brand

Ferrari

"Yeah, do better GM, do better. Or we just have to like, like we have to find a new manufacturer for that. Yeah, I don't know. Let's get, well, yeah, Ferrari could do better. [1568.5s] They could over engineer it."

Ferrari is a famous Italian car brand, especially known for racing. The speaker is saying Ferrari might be able to engineer a better solution, and they’re comparing that to how Ferrari does in different types of racing.

Concept

over engineer it

"Let's get, well, yeah, Ferrari could do better. [1568.5s] They could over engineer it. I, they could, I, it's hard because I'm coming from the F1 side of things."

To “over engineer” something means making it more complicated or robust than you really need. The idea is that it might work better or last longer, but it could also cost more or be harder to maintain.

Topic

F1

"They could over engineer it. I, they could, I, it's hard because I'm coming from the F1 [1575.7s] side of things. And it's like, they're doing okay right now, but like, they can always mess up a decent strategy."

F1 is Formula 1, the highest level of car racing. The speaker is using it as a benchmark for how racing teams plan and perform.

Topic

endurance teams

"...but like, they can always mess up a decent strategy. That's true. But then you look at their endurance teams and [1589.9s] they're doing great."

Endurance racing is long-distance racing where the cars have to keep working for hours. The speaker is saying the endurance teams are doing well compared to other areas.

Topic

motorcycles

"[1604.4s] I did. I drove 800 miles each way to Georgia this weekend to visit a friend of mine and drop off [1612.9s] some motorcycles. How many are you down to now?"

They’re talking about motorcycles—how many they have and moving them around. It’s part of the “motorized” lifestyle they’re describing.

Car

Porsche 911

"the ground. Yes, the 911 is on the ground. I rolled it like three feet and I need to call people about finding someone to do stuff with it this week."

They’re talking about a Porsche 911. It’s a famous sports car, and here they’re just saying they moved it a little and need help with it this week.

Term

two stroke

"He has a 125 two stroke trials bike, which is immensely capable. And I brought out one of my electric trials bikes."

A two-stroke engine makes power every two piston strokes. That can help a motorcycle feel snappy and strong at low speeds, which is useful for trials riding.

Term

trials bike

"He has a 125 two stroke trials bike, which is immensely capable. And I brought out one of my electric trials bikes. And so we just rode through the woods, hopped logs, went up hills, crossed streams."

A trials bike is made for riding over obstacles at low speed. Instead of racing fast, you try to stay balanced and controlled while going over things like logs and rocks.

Term

rear wheel bearing

"he's like, and we fixed he has a KTM 500 that he does woods racing with. And he had the most destroyed rear wheel bearing I've ever seen in my life, like all the balls were gone."

A wheel bearing is a set of parts that helps the wheel spin smoothly. If it’s destroyed, the wheel can feel rough or start to wobble, so you have to take it apart and fix or replace the damaged parts.

Brand

KTM

"he's like, and we fixed he has a KTM 500 that he does woods racing with. And he had the most destroyed rear wheel bearing I've ever seen in my life, like all the balls were gone."

KTM is a motorcycle brand that makes a lot of off-road bikes. In this story, it’s the bike his buddy was riding when a wheel bearing failed.

Car

Yamaha Tenere 700

"He said, or do you want to ride the Yamaha Tenere 700, which is technically a middle weight adventure bike. Okay. [1814.3s] It's a 700cc twin."

The Yamaha Tenere 700 is a motorcycle designed for both street riding and dirt/gravel-style roads. It’s in the middleweight class, and in this story it’s also much taller and heavier than what the rider is used to.

Term

middle weight adventure bike

"He said, or do you want to ride the Yamaha Tenere 700, which is technically a middle weight adventure bike. Okay."

A “middleweight adventure bike” is a motorcycle that’s not too small and not too big—meant to be easier to ride than the biggest touring bikes. “Adventure” generally means it’s built to handle both regular roads and rougher surfaces.

Term

700cc twin

"It's a 700cc twin. It looks like, you know, just a big adventure bike when you look at it."

“700cc twin” means the motorcycle’s engine is about 700cc total and it has two cylinders. That combination affects how smooth it feels and how it delivers power.

Term

dual sport bike

"And the dual sport bike that I have, the Kawasaki dual sport bike that I have, weighs just under 300 pounds."

A dual sport bike is made for both street riding and dirt/gravel riding. It’s a compromise bike that can do a bit of everything.

Term

twisty back roads

"So you have an amazing network of twisty back roads, most of which have a really good pavement on them because it doesn't really freeze there."

“Twisty back roads” are roads with lots of curves. Riding them well usually means being smooth with steering and speed.

Term

one and a half lane wide twisty roads

"And we went for like a three hour ride on the most amazing network of one and a half lane wide twisty roads that have a 40 mile an hour speed limit,"

They’re describing very narrow, curvy roads. On a bike, that means you have to be careful about where you ride in the lane and how smoothly you set up for each turn.

Term

adventure bikes

"...I don't know much about bikes alone, adventure bikes, adventure bikes like can go off road, but they can also go on pavement."

Adventure bikes are motorcycles built to do more than just street riding. They’re made to handle rough roads like gravel or dirt while still being comfortable on pavement.

Term

semi knobby tires

"...they've got upright handlebars. They've got, usually they have semi knobby tires..."

Semi-knobby tires are tires with extra grip blocks for dirt and gravel. They’re not as “spiky” as true off-road tires, so they work better on regular roads too.

Term

dirt road

"...my friend Mike took me to a dirt road, a winding dirt road that went up a mountain..."

A dirt road is a road made of loose material instead of asphalt. The surface can be slippery and uneven, so you have to ride more carefully.

Term

second gear

"...Just put it in second gear and ride up and see how it goes."

Second gear is a lower gear that helps you crawl or climb with more control. It gives the bike more “pull” at low speed, which is useful on rough terrain.

Term

wash out

"...sections like parts of the road have been tried to wash out with rain and all that's left is the big huge rocks."

A washout is when rain damages the road surface and removes the softer material. After that, the road can become rougher and harder to ride over.

Concept

stability

"...a bike that has a ton of mass associated with it just sort of like goes over things. It doesn't get deflected... it's got a ton of stability..."

Stability here means the bike feels steady and predictable over bumps and rocks. A heavier bike can keep going in the direction you’re aiming instead of getting knocked around.

Term

crosswind

"Like there's places where heavy bikes have an advantage 70 miles an hour with a 20 mile an hour crosswind. Yeah, being on a my Kawasaki 300 pound bike. If you're in a heavy crosswind with that, you're moving across the lane when the wind blows."

A crosswind is wind coming from the side. On a motorcycle it can shove the bike sideways, so you have to work harder to stay in your lane.

Term

stop signs and stop lights

"I figured out a whole bunch of stop signs and stop lights are where I don't enjoy the bike. Oh, just longer stopping distances, I assume."

Stop signs and traffic lights make you stop and start a lot. On a heavier bike, stopping and getting going again takes more work and can feel harder in traffic.

Term

stopping distances

"Oh, just longer stopping distances, I assume. Just having to stop, like having to stop something that weighs 450 pounds, put your feet down, you know, go through the gears..."

Stopping distance is how much road you need to slow down and fully stop after you brake. A heavier bike usually takes more effort and more space to stop.

Term

first gear

"...go through the gears, put it in first gear, put your feet down, wait for the light to change, get the bike going again..."

First gear is the lowest gear on the bike. It’s what you use to get moving from a stop, especially at low speeds.

Concept

dropping a motorcycle in traffic

"...And I'm reasonably nervous about dropping my friend's motorcycle in town. It's never a cool thing to do. Dropping a bike in traffic doesn't make you feel good."

Dropping a motorcycle means it tips over while you’re moving slowly or stopped. It’s more likely with heavier bikes because balancing takes more effort.

Term

gravel driveway

"...he's got a crazy half mile long gravel driveway, but we stopped at the bottom because we needed to talk to the guys who were fixing the phone lines. And you come off a paved road and it's a gravel hill that goes straight up."

Gravel is slippery compared to pavement because the surface isn’t solid. When you’re stopping or riding slowly on it, the tires can grip less reliably.

Term

rear brake

"And so we're at the bottom of the hill and he's talking to people and he's like, all right, we're going to go through here and ride through the field and go up."

The rear brake is the brake that slows the back wheel. On gravel, it can be easy to lose traction if you brake too hard.

Term

clutch

"And I go to release the clutch and the rear of the bike spins the tire just a little and we're on loose, like completely loose gravel facing uphill."

The clutch is a lever/pedal that controls when the engine starts turning the wheels. If you let it out suddenly on slippery ground, the rear wheel can spin instead of gripping.

Term

rear-wheel slip

"The rear of the tire spins just a little bit and it scooches the bike toward my left foot, which makes the bike start to lean to the right."

Rear-wheel slip is when the back tire spins without gripping the ground. On gravel, it’s common when you accelerate or release the clutch.

Term

loose gravel

"the tire just a little and we're on loose, like completely loose gravel facing uphill. The rear of the tire spins just a little bit and it scooches the bike toward my left foot,"

Loose gravel is slippery because the ground shifts under the tires. That can make the bike slide or spin more easily than on pavement.

Car

Yamaha T7

"It made me feel like a badass. I was like, I have ridden this bike off road more than most Yamaha T7 riders ever ride off road because I rode through some fields and did little jumpy things."

The Yamaha T7 is a motorcycle that’s meant to handle both street riding and dirt/off-road. The speaker is saying they rode this bike off-road more than most T7 riders.

Company

Ford DX2 Lemons car

"...she was team managing their crappy college Ford DX2 Lemons car. [2520.9s] And the last time they ran..."

They’re talking about a “Lemons” style race, where the cars are usually inexpensive and the goal is to finish and have a good time, not build a perfect race machine. Their team was managing a Ford DX2 for that event.

Concept

lap time

"...their crappy college Ford DX2 Lemons car. [2520.9s] And the last time they ran, they got about 45 minutes of lap time."

Lap time is how long it takes to go around the track once. In racing, it’s a way to measure speed, but in long events it’s not the only thing that matters.

Part

windshield

"...they got about 45 minutes of lap time. [2528.2s] They broke a windshield like three minutes into the first practice session..."

The windshield is the front glass that keeps wind and debris away from the driver. If it breaks during a session, it can be unsafe and usually means you have to stop and fix the car.

Concept

exploded their transmission

"...they broke a windshield like three minutes into the first practice session and they exploded their transmission like 20 minutes into the first race..."

They had a major gearbox failure. When that happens, the car can’t put power to the wheels correctly, so the race ends quickly.

Concept

endurance-style mindset

"So they put the car back together this time and they had like a real sit down conversation... [2557.9s] ...okay, nobody needs to try to go fast... We are going to try to survive the weekend..."

This is the mindset used in long races: the first job is to make it through the whole event. Speed matters later—if you break early, it doesn’t matter how fast you could go.

Concept

run plan

"Actually have a run plan. [2585.4s] Yeah. Right. And that's the thing, like learn how to show up for all the hours of the race."

A run plan is basically the game plan for the whole race weekend. Instead of just trying to be fast for a short moment, the goal is to keep the car running and make good decisions for hours.

Concept

show up for all the hours of the race

"Yeah. Right. And that's the thing, like learn how to show up for all the hours of the race. [2590.5s] And after we can do that, then we can learn how to be fast while racing..."

In long races, the real win is finishing and staying consistent for a long time. It’s about not breaking the bike/car and keeping your driving steady.

Term

AIM solo

"...Sonya has my old AIM solo and she was trying to get a start, finish set and they couldn't get it to communicate with the computer to put a lap on it."

AIM Solo is a device that records driving data during a track session. They were trying to get it to talk to their computer so it could automatically capture lap information.

Term

data acquisition

"...they learned that they should really figure out their data acquisition prior to going to the track. But you know, we, this is how we learn."

Data acquisition just means recording car and driving information while you’re on track. They learned they needed to set it up ahead of time so it would work when they got there.

Term

green flag

"...And the Saturday, they took the green flag, which they were very excited about."

A green flag means the session is officially starting and it’s time to drive normally at speed. They were happy because they were finally getting to race.

Term

high pressure power steering hose

"...until they blew the high pressure power steering hose. And, you know, vacated a whole bunch of power steering fluid..."

This hose moves the pressurized fluid that helps you steer with less effort. If it bursts or leaks badly, you can lose power steering and end up with a lot of fluid on the ground.

Term

power steering pump

"...the only thing that they could figure out to do was to drain all the fluid... And just run the whole system dry. Sure. With still, with still a belt on the power steering pump."

The power steering pump is what creates the pressure that makes steering easier. They kept the pump belt turning but ran the system dry as a short-term fix.

Term

hydrologue with fluid

"...if they tried to block off the high pressure side, the pump tries to seize itself with fluid, tries to hydrologue with fluid. And so the only thing..."

They tried to block part of the power steering system, but it caused the pump to act badly—basically not being able to circulate fluid the way it should. That made them realize they couldn’t just cap it and keep going.

Term

power steering fluid

"I'm like, you do like the entirety of your team understands that power steering fluid acts as a lubricant and a cooling fluid for that pump, right? Yeah."

Power steering fluid is the liquid that helps your steering feel lighter. It also helps keep the power-steering pump cool, so if the fluid is wrong or low, the pump can overheat or wear out.

Term

checkered flag

"And they took the checkered flag. Not fast. But they were, they were a very happy team of will college people for having basically completed a lemons race on their second attempt."

The checkered flag is what you see when a race is over. Getting it means you made it to the finish line.

Concept

lemon race

"...for having basically completed a lemons race on their second attempt."

A “lemon race” is a race where people bring cars that aren’t great—often broken or unreliable—and try to finish anyway. The challenge is keeping the car running long enough to complete the event.

Topic

not being an asshole award

"And they got an award for the not being an asshole award, I think. Oh. Which I mean, honestly, for a bunch of like 20 year old college dudes..."

They’re talking about a funny award for being a good teammate and not acting badly. It’s more about sportsmanship than racing fast.

Term

tire temperature probe

"...she has her, her tire temperature probe. She's got a pyrometer to check just to make sure there's no glaringly obvious alignment issues."

A tire temperature probe measures how hot the tire is getting. If the tire is getting too hot or heating unevenly, it can mean the setup or driving needs adjusting.

Term

pyrometer

"She's got a pyrometer to check just to make sure there's no glaringly obvious alignment issues."

A pyrometer is a tool that measures temperature, usually from the surface. In racing, it helps teams check tire temps quickly so they can tell if something’s off.

Term

alignment issues

"...a pyrometer to check just to make sure there's no glaringly obvious alignment issues."

Alignment issues mean the wheels aren’t pointed the right way. That can make tires wear unevenly and grip worse, so the car feels less predictable.

Concept

endurance racing

"actually endurance racing and knows what it means to treat sketchy equipment in such a way that you're going to make it to the end of the day and how that differs from trying to go fast."

Endurance racing is like a long-distance race for cars. Instead of just going as fast as possible for a short time, teams try to keep everything working and finish the whole event.

Topic

gingerman

"And I know they're planning on being at gingerman when that race goes to gingerman. Yes. And I want to say I'm somewhere else that weekend, but again, it doesn't surprise me."

Gingerman is a reference to Gingerman Raceway, a motorsports track in Michigan. The hosts mention it as a likely destination for a race weekend, which helps ground the episode’s track-focused planning.

Term

paddock

"But I, but I don't think they would turn down opinions of somebody who actually genuinely understands some things about cars in ways that they don't yet. Yeah. It's a thing. But congratulations. Yeah. Very, very proud of them."

The paddock is the busy area at a race where teams hang out and work on their cars. It’s not the track itself—it’s where the teams set up and prepare.

Topic

trackwalking

"Well, we are at trackwalking podcast, Facebook, Instagram, but join the discord."

Track walking means walking the race track before you drive it. You look at where turns are, where you’ll need to slow down, and what the track looks like so you can plan your driving.

Topic

car selection

"And we talk about car selection and nonsense like that. Yeah. Yeah. If you can like share, write all that, the podcast, because it does help and that's fun."

Car selection means picking which car to use for a race or track day. The right choice depends on what the track needs and what the driver can handle.

2 cars featured

Request an Explanation

Heard something you'd like explained? We'll add it to this episode.

Sign in to request explanations for terms you heard.

Want to learn more?

Browse our glossary for plain-English explanations of automotive terms, jargon, and concepts.

Explore Terms

Help improve this episode

See something that's not quite right? Our annotations are AI-generated and can sometimes miss the mark. Click the flag icon on any annotation to suggest a correction.

Report incorrect info
Suggest better explanations
Flag missing cars