{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"299 The Sam Clarke Episode","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/299-the-sam-clarke-episode","audioUrl":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/13b73221-16a0-473c-ac64-a4531dc02d20.mp3","description":"I wanted to get an industry expert back on to talk about where things really stand in the EV space right now.In this episode, I catch up with Sam Clarke - Guinness World Record holder, and Green Fleet 100 nominee, for a wide-ranging conversation on the current state of electric vehicles, charging infrastructure, and the challenges facing the industry.What You’ll Discover- The State of EV Misinformation: Why Sam is less bothered by it now and how facts are winning in the long term despite the noise.- Public Charging Realities: Pricing pressures, utilisation, first-mover advantage, and why some networks perform better than others.- The Future of HGV Charging and Consolidation: What’s happening with eHGVs, roaming, and why the market is inevitably heading towards fewer, stronger players.He acknowledges the real challenges around pricing, grid connections, and inconsistent government policy, but remains optimistic about the direction of travel. His point about needing more joined-up thinking from government and the value of consolidation for simplicity and reliability felt particularly timely.If you’re interested in where public charging is heading, the realities of operating a network, or how the HGV transition is progressing, this episode gives you a clear-eyed insider perspective.Guest Details:Sam Clarke is an award-winning entrepreneur, EV owner for 24 years, head of eHGV at GRIDSERVE & a 4-time Guinness World Record Holder for EV driving. His EV journey started in 2002 with all electric motorbikes before founding a zero-emission logistics firm which he sold to John Menzies Plc in 2017. He now works on public charging infrastructure for GRIDSERVE, being the architect of the ‘Electric Freightway’ a £100M Government funded eHGV Project. He is a regular public speaker on EV and is a founder of The EV Café webinar & news channel, an industry recognised voice in the EV community. In 2015, Sam was a Great British Entrepreneur’s Award winner and by 2022 he was a GreenFleet EV Champion for services to the industry. In 2024 he was voted #1 in the Motor Transport Power Players list and #7 in the greenfleet.net top 100 most Influential list in 2026. He holds 4 Guinness World Records for the longest journeys ever driven in an electric car, SUV, van and motorbike on a single charge.The EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence.Episode produced by Arran Sheppard at Urban Podcasts: https://www.urbanpodcasts.co.uk(C) 2019-2026 Gary ComerfordSupport me: Patreon Link: http://www.patreon.com/evmusingsKo-fi Link: http://www.ko-fi.com/evmusingsThe Books:'So, you've gone electric?' on Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q5JVF1X'So, you've gone renewable?’ on Amazon : https://amzn.to/3LXvIckSocial Media:EVMusings: Twitter https://twitter.com/MusingsEvInstagram: @EVmusingsOctopus Energy referral code (Click this link to get started) https://share.octopus.energy/neat-star-460Upgrade to smarter EV driving with a free week's trial of Zapmap Premium, find out more here https://evmusings.com/zapmap-premiumMentioned in this episode:ZapmapThe EV Musings Podcast is sponsored by Zapmap, the go-to app for EV drivers, helping you find and pay for public charging with confidence. Zapmap is free to download and use, with subscription plans for enhanced features such as using Zapmap in-car on CarPlay or Android Auto, and discounted charging across thousands of charge points.\n\nDownload the app from the Apple App Store or Google Play Store or find out more at www.zapmap.com.Zapmap EV Guide"},"annotations":[{"startTime":538.4,"endTime":545.1,"type":"term","title":"EHGVs","url":"/glossary/ehgvs","quote":"and say, look, you give these kind of discounts because EHGVs are going to take a large amount\nof energy a number of times in a day or a week.","canonicalId":"term:ehgvs","priority":0.55,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"EHGVs stands for “electric heavy goods vehicles,” meaning fully electric trucks and other large commercial vehicles. 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Fleet operators like it because it’s scheduled and convenient."}},{"startTime":622.5,"endTime":628.9,"type":"term","title":"consortium","url":"/glossary/consortium","quote":"That enables them to, as a collective, almost have their own little\nconsortium of users, which means as an enterprise, we see one customer that's consuming quite a lot","canonicalId":"term:consortium","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.7,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"In this context, a “consortium” is a coordinated group of users (here, fleet operators and/or individuals) that aggregates demand and negotiates access to charging services. The host’s point is that bundling many users can make the network treat them as one large customer.","simplifiedExplanation":"A consortium here means a group of customers working together. 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The hosts use it as an example route to talk about where EV charging can get enough electricity and how that changes from one service area to another."}},{"startTime":693.9,"endTime":698.4,"type":"term","title":"Strategic Road Network","url":"/glossary/strategic-road-network","quote":"I did an episode a couple of weeks ago about the Strategic Road Network, and I focused on the M1...","canonicalId":"term:strategic-road-network","priority":0.6,"confidence":0.78,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"The Strategic Road Network (SRN) is the UK’s set of major roads managed at a national level, including many motorways. 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If the nearest power equipment is far away (or on the other side of the motorway), it can be harder and more complex to install enough charging power."}},{"startTime":743.9,"endTime":749.1,"type":"term","title":"substation","url":"/glossary/substation","quote":"that line of sight to the nearest substation or the nearest main power station is miles and miles away...","canonicalId":"term:substation","priority":0.55,"confidence":0.86,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"A substation is an electrical facility that transforms and distributes high-voltage power into forms suitable for local use. In EV charging buildouts, the distance to the nearest substation strongly affects how feasible it is to bring enough power to motorway service areas.","simplifiedExplanation":"A substation is a power facility that helps deliver electricity from the main grid to local areas. 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So, [842.6s] as I say, I got data from ZAP Map that showed me all the CPOs that were present on the M1, [851.5s] and it indicated that Apple Green, for example, have way more actual charges up the M1 corridor than, say, GridServe.","canonicalId":"concept:first-mover-advantage","priority":0.6,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"First mover advantage is the idea that the earliest major provider in a market can build brand awareness, partnerships, and site coverage that later competitors struggle to match. 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In podcast context, it’s likely referenced as an example of a popular car people want to understand in terms of real-world ownership and charging access.","simplifiedExplanation":"The Dodge Charger is a car that’s built for strong performance and a sporty feel. When people talk about charging “types” and user experience, they’re usually talking about how easy it is to charge a car depending on where you are and what charging equipment is available. 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If it isn’t, plugging in might work smoothly in one place but not in another."}},{"startTime":1882.6,"endTime":1890.4,"type":"term","title":"apps","url":"/glossary/apps","quote":"which is probably a digital one, probably the apps that\n[1886.8s] just need to make life simple.","canonicalId":"term:apps","priority":0.45,"confidence":0.5,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-5.4-nano","data":{"explanation":"In EV charging, apps are the user interface that typically handles account login, payment, and session start—especially when plug-and-charge isn’t available. The discussion suggests a future where apps are simplified so users barely need to think about which network they’re using.","simplifiedExplanation":"Charging apps are the phone software you use to start and pay for charging. 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