33 Car Indy 500 Field, Brad is Judging at Benedict Castle Concourse - Shift & Steer EP568
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33 Car Indy 500 Field, Brad is Judging at Benedict Castle Concourse - Shift & Steer EP568
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Car
Chevrolet Chevelle
This is about the Chevrolet Chevelle from the mid-1960s. They’re explaining how a code on the car can tell you what color and options it originally had when it left the factory.
Term
cowl code
A cowl code is a set of factory markings on the car that can help you figure out how it was originally ordered. It’s especially useful for finding the original paint and options.
Term
VIN number
The VIN number is like the car’s unique ID. It helps you confirm the car’s identity and build details, and the segment explains where to look for it.
Term
hidden VIN locations
Some cars have VIN markings in less-obvious spots. Checking those can help you confirm whether the car is truly what the seller claims, before you spend a lot of money.
Term
matching motor
“Matching motor” means the engine in the car is the original (or correctly paired) unit that corresponds to the car’s identity/build. In collector circles, matching components are often used as evidence of originality and can affect value.
Term
matching transmission
“Matching transmission” means the gearbox is the one that goes with the car’s original build. It’s a good sign for collectors because it suggests fewer major swaps.
Car
Lamborghini Muras
The Lamborghini Miura is a famous classic supercar from the 1960s. The point in this segment is that identification numbers can be stamped in particular places on the car, and you may need to know where to look.
Term
chassis number
A chassis number is another kind of vehicle ID stamp. On some older cars, it may be the main identifier and it can be located in spots that aren’t obvious.
Term
clam shells
“Clam shells” here means outer body panels that can be replaced after an accident. If those panels get swapped, the stamped identification marks might move or disappear.
Term
matching number
“Matching numbers” is when the car’s key ID numbers—especially the engine—match the car’s original paperwork/records. Collectors use it to help prove the car is as original as possible.
Car
Foxbody Mustangs
“Foxbody” is a nickname for a specific generation of the Ford Mustang (late 1970s through early 1990s). It’s a popular muscle car, so collectors pay close attention to identifying details like VINs.
Term
VIN stickers
Besides the VIN stamped into metal, some cars also have VIN labels/stickers in other spots. Collectors check them because mismatches can be a red flag.
Concept
authenticating a collector car
Authenticating a collector car means checking whether the car is truly what the seller claims—using IDs like VINs and stamped engine numbers. Collectors do this to avoid buying a car with swapped or incorrect parts.
Term
rear end
“Rear end” is the car’s back axle assembly. The gear ratio inside it affects how the car drives, and collectors care because it can be part of the car’s original configuration.
Term
houndstooth interior
“Houndstooth” is a recognizable fabric pattern used in car seats and interior trim. Collectors care because the exact interior style can be part of what makes a specific car rare.
Term
four speed
“Four speed” means the car has four forward gears. Collectors care because the original gear setup is part of what makes a car match its build history.
Term
Hemi
“Hemi” is an engine design where the combustion chamber shape is more like a half-sphere. It’s a big deal in performance car history, especially for certain Chrysler engines.
Brand
Mopars
“Mopars” is a nickname for cars made by Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth. The speaker is talking about knowing those cars and their parts really well.
Car
Chevrolet Camaro
The Chevrolet Camaro is a sports car from Chevrolet. People often talk about “codes” because they can help identify the exact version of the car—like what engine or options it originally had. That matters for knowing what you’re looking at and how it’s been built.
Term
Holley 3310
Holley 3310 is a specific model of carburetor made by Holley. Carburetors are part of the fuel system, and the number helps you figure out which exact setup it originally came from.
Term
double pumper
A “double pumper” means the carburetor has two fuel squirts when you press the gas. That helps the engine respond better when you accelerate quickly.
Part
aluminum water pump
A water pump moves coolant through the engine to keep it from overheating. Here, the host is highlighting that theirs is an aluminum version, which can be important because it matches a specific rare factory setup.
Term
factory ZL1 aluminum big block Camaro
ZL1 was a special high-performance Camaro option. The host is saying the water pump they found matches the rare aluminum big-block version, which is why it’s valuable for restorations.
Term
ADU
ADU means an "accessory dwelling unit." It’s basically a small extra home (or guest house) you can build on your property, sometimes separate from the main house.
Term
infield
The infield is the inside area of a race track, not the racing lanes themselves. It’s where teams and event stuff are usually set up.
Term
grid
The grid is where race cars line up before the start. If a car is on the grid, it’s in its starting spot and ready to go.
Concept
adrenaline
Adrenaline is the body’s “amped up” feeling during intense situations. In racing, it can make you feel more alert and reactive.
Term
in-car camera
An in-car camera is a camera mounted inside the race car to capture the driver’s view and onboard footage during a run. Broadcasts and teams use it to show braking/turn-in points, driver inputs, and what the driver sees at speed.
Term
competitive
“Competitive” here means you’re driving fast enough to contend for good positions, not just finishing. It’s about whether you can keep up with the front of the field.
Car
Shelby Cobra
The Shelby Cobra is a type of sports car that’s known for being fast and lightweight. In the podcast, it sounds like they’re talking about where you can see Cobra cars in person, including modern builds. People care because different Cobra versions can be built by different companies and can be identified by their specific details.
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I'm glad that you're here, and I think that my partner in crime and co-host Matt D'Andrea.
He's excited to be here, aren't you, Matt?
Yep.
Aaron, how about you?
Are you excited to be here, Aaron?
Aaron is not here today.
Again?
He is doing stuff.
I don't know.
He's doing some family stuff.
I think he's doing something with his dad's house or cars or something, but he posted
some great stuff from the Napa Valley rally thing that they did, the Napa Rally, and I
can't wait to hear about it.
I thought we were going to get it today.
I thought we were going to hear it.
That's right.
It'll be old news by the time he comes back.
It'll be fine.
Is it the Napa Valley Rally or is it the Napa Rally?
It's the Napa Rally Valley.
Rally Valley.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
Welcome to the party, pals.
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I bet you heard it that time though, Fandl.
I see you've got the string attached to your glasses now, like you're about to play beach
volleyball, but you're wearing your prescription glasses, not your sunglasses.
So you wear your glasses around your neck now when you're not on your face?
What it is is this is actually earbuds.
They're earbuds that come in, and I have these high-tech glasses that film the show while
I'm on the air, and that goes to a direct link in its live, but only available in Scotland.
That's the problem while you've not seen it.
Now, I was going through a drawer, cleaning out a drawer, and I found this old, like you
said, cord that you would wear at the beach if you're doing some kind of activity and
you had your sunglasses, didn't want them to fall off your head.
I said, you know what?
I'm around here at the office all the time, and I'm always like, they're readers.
I do have to get prescription glasses.
I finally admitted that I've got to get prescription glasses.
Yeah, so do I actually.
I can't see anything.
I've got these readers, and I said to myself, I said, I get back to the warehouse, and I
go, I love my glasses on my desk, and I've got to read something, or the guy from Amazon
comes in, I want to read the label, and I'm like, okay, I'm just going to do this number
for now on, let them hang around my neck, and then they're there.
Because the clapper didn't work that well for me.
I go, and it was in my office.
Anyways, yes, I've gotten that old that I have to wear my glasses.
I've got readers as well, but mostly what I do when I can't read something is I yell
for Tammy to read it to me.
Well, I used to do that, but Charlotte's no better than I am now.
Tammy has glasses too, but she brings them with her, and I don't.
So every restaurant, I've never brought mine with me, so I can't see anything on a menu,
but you're right.
Now, I am noticing that I've got to get prescription glasses just to wear.
I can't see down the street, and it's not blurry, it's just not there, I just can't
see as well.
So, I would need glasses to watch TV, or I can drive, it's fine, I'm not worried about
what's in front of me, but I can't see quite as far like the street sign down.
That's why I never leave my own neighborhood.
I used to be that way, Matt.
I used to have that where it wasn't, I could read, but I had to strain a little bit.
I, computer screens sometimes, I could watch TV, no problem, and in about the last year,
I've noticed that on the freeway, like you said, two exits down or whatever, I can't
read that anymore, and I'm watching TV, and I realize my eyes are getting tired, and things
just aren't as sharp, so I got to go in, and I'm just afraid they're going to say something
like bifocal or trifocal or something like that.
They try to sell me on the bifocal, they're like, you can use these to see, and then you
can use the readers down below, and I was just like, oh, it seems like a lot.
It's funny, I remember years ago, 10 years ago, 8 years ago, 7 or 8 years ago, and I
would often, my local gym is where Stone Cold Steve Austin would go in there too, and he
and I are friendly, and I've been over to his place, and brought some cars and stuff over
there, and he's interested in, he has a place in Southern California, and then his place
in Nevada, his ranch where he mostly lives in Nevada, but when he has to work in the
entertainment industry or something, he's got a place out here, and I'd go into the
gym and, you know-
That's what I have my place here for too.
Yeah, and you know, we'd be chatting and stuff, and I would tease him because he'd be like,
yeah, yeah, look at this, we look at something on his phone, and he's got to get his glasses
out, and I was like, damn, old man, and he'd be like, oh, you wait, you'll get there,
you'll get there, and I don't have the heart to tell him that, I'm there, brother, so.
Maybe when I see him, and he sees me busting out my glasses, he'd be like, I knew it,
I knew you'd get there.
It's the guy that won't admit it, and then when he turns on his iPhone and the letters
are like an inch tall, you know, it's like, yeah, I can read it without my glasses, what
do you mean?
I go, yeah, well, you got it magnified, chewed, you know.
But about 10 years ago, I heard an ad on the radio, and I went down for lasik surgery,
you know, and I really considered doing it, and I thought, I don't know, and I've known
some people that have gotten it, and they're like, oh, yeah, it was the greatest thing
ever, man, you know, and I just, man, it's, when somebody's slicing your eyes, your eyeballs,
you know, it's a little scary, plus they told me that there was a 99% chance it would work
for me, and I said, what do you mean a 99% chance?
And they said, well, apparently, and my mom told me this, but I have a scar on my eye.
My lens is misinformed, because when they were taking me out, I guess they got me in
the eye with the forceps or something, and it was a big deal at the time, and I don't
remember it, Matt, I'm just gonna tell you, I don't remember it happening, but now I guess,
so like I could never wear contacts, because it would form to the eye, and they said it
would be all out of focus on that eye, so I thought about it, have you ever thought about
doing that lasik stuff?
Well, I was thinking about it because I remember years ago, I believe Adam Corolla did it.
He mostly wears glasses now, so I don't know how effective it was or what type of
sight issue he had, maybe it corrected something, but it couldn't correct
all of whatever he had, but I wonder about it because I don't, if I remember correctly,
I don't think I've ever seen him wear glasses while racing, like the Laguna Seco or something,
so I think that vision, just like outside the front windshield of the car and what's in front
of you is probably clear enough, so I wonder if, for what he sees mostly during racing,
that distance might have been fine with the lasik, but then he just wears glasses.
What's weird with it is they ask you, do you want to read 2020 or do you want to see distance
2020? I go, what do you mean? And they go, well, we can't do both, it's one or the other.
So they go, a lot of people don't have it for distance and things like that, and then they
use readers. I'm like, well, wait a minute, I'm still going to have to use readers? I guess they
can't fix everything. That's kind of the thing. I think most people opt for, I don't know because
I'm just getting into this, but I think most people opt for correcting their day-to-day vision
and then just stick with the readers when they need to read or yell at Tammy like I do.
Yeah, well, it's interesting, they can read that. A lot of most police go for the far,
so they can see distance. And they said, because there were some cases, I guess, where
they got the correction for reading and then they used it against them in court where like,
how do you know that license plate was, you don't have 2020 vision, so now they get it
correct. The other one said, I have 2020 vision. And that's the thing about it, I have 2020 vision.
Well, let me be specific, I have 2020 hindsight. Everything I look in the past and I have 2020
vision. Yeah, I don't know how long that's going to last either.
So. Oh, now you're saying my memory is going too.
Yeah, anyway, we went down this tangent because I was just thinking about
glasses and driving and what I've got to do to start fixing my eyes to be a safe driver once again.
I don't know if I asked my problem. You're a safe driver now, don't let your insurance
company hear this. What insurance? Yeah, well, I run bare.
California is like 40% of the people don't have insurance. Yeah, I do have insurance.
Hey, there is some big news. Thursday of this week, by the time this show drops on Friday,
it will already be up. But the new Brad Fanshawe channel YouTube show, part of my muscle car
tech series will be dropping. And because not every week, I'm sorry, Cody, but not every week.
Oh, he's going to be so sad. Exactly about my Chevelle. My muscle car tech series does start
out with, this will make him happy, the history of the Chevelle. And it's a great look at the
history of the Chevelle. And I tell you something at the very end of the show that will blow your
mind. Anybody who's a Chevelle lover or just appreciates muscle cars, it'll blow your mind.
You want to hear to the end. But the other thing that I'm doing in there is I spent a lot of time
putting together, and I will admit with some help from AI, a bunch of graphic charts
that will help you decode your 64 to 67 Chevelle cowl code so that you can figure out what color
your car was originally, what color interior, what options it would have had. I even include
showing color charts that show all the color options that were available. Even surprised me
when I was doing my research, Matt. I didn't realize how many different color combinations,
because when you look at the sales numbers, Marina blue, oh my God, Chevelle's Marina blue,
or pale yellow, or just black was really low numbers on their black cars. But there was one
called plum, and this plum was, I mean, it was a really cool color, but very few cars ever got
painted that color. So there's some great information in there. It's even if you're not restoring a
Chevelle, it's kind of neat to watch. I give you a look at the vin, or not the vin, excuse me,
the cowl code, and go through each number, show you how to decipher it. Then I show you where
your vin number will be located, where you can find that, what it looks like, and where you can
find it on your motor. And you can see like on mine, I was real lucky, I have a matching motor
and a matching transmission still in my car. And then finally, I show you hidden vin locations,
so that if you're really trying to buy a car that they say is an SS, and maybe you're,
you know, this thing looks like it just got pop riveted on, and you want to double check it,
you can hopefully, if it's not too rusty, find some of the hidden vin locations,
so you can check it out and, you know, make sure it's a real one before you lay down the bread.
So that's this week on the Brad Fanshawe channel on YouTube.
It's good to know, because I remember when we were digging into having a few Lamborghini Muras,
and it wasn't really a vin number, it's just a chassis number, like a four-digit number,
that was it. And it's stamped on, when you open, I think it's the driver's door, when you open that
door, and you can look in between the fender and the door, the front fender and the door,
there's a number in there, and then the front and rear clam shells on the mirror
have the number stamped on them as well, because some of them over time, if they were ever wrecked,
they would replace the whole clam shell in the back, like if you got re-rendered,
so you need that matching number, and it is stamped on the engine as well, and you can
see that by opening the rear clam shell, you can lean in and you can see, I think it's
in between the carbs on the manifold, or like what are the, you got a picture of that 12 cylinder
being sideways, and it has kind of a transmission tunnel, and like in the block is all one cast
piece, and I think it's on that, so you do have to look for certain pieces of that,
and then, and you know, and as the 90s and 2000s cars become more valuable, you know, like obviously,
the Foxbody Mustangs, the Cobras that I've had, there are, you always think about the
VIN number in the windshield or in the door, but there are VIN stickers on like other areas
of the car, the front bumper covers, rear bumper covers, stuff like that, like underneath it and
inside it, so it does come up quite often when you start authenticating a collector car that
becomes, yeah, whether you're authenticating or somebody is trying to sell you one that they say
it's this, you know, I mean, that's, because let's face it, some colors are more valuable in all,
whether it's a sports car or a muscle car, you know, some colors are just more valuable,
and you want to know if it's the right color. Muscle cars especially, because it's the only,
like, 60s, 70s muscle cars are the only ones that pop up, especially like in a Barrick Jackson,
they go, you know, this is, you know, one of 8,000, you know, Chevelles made, I'm like, oh, okay,
okay, that's not bad, they go, but it's the only one in this shade of yellow, and it's the only one
with a 490 rear end, and it's the only one with a four speed, and it's the only one with
houndstooth interior, and it's like, I didn't know they're starting to like,
trying to narrow it down to be like a one of 11, you know, it's the only yellow one
with a houndstooth interior, and this and this, that went down the assembly line on a Thursday
afternoon, you know, it's like, yeah, but like the, the Mopars, those are the ones that really get,
you know, like, this is the only 426 Hemikuda in, you know, you know, in, in lime green with a
black, you know, hockey pucked stripe or, you know, whatever, you know, can tell I'm not a Mopar guy.
Well, there's, there's Mark Warman, who, who somehow knows all of that stuff in his head
when it comes to the Mopars. Yeah. He's great. And the other guy that's really good at that,
for a lot of cars is Peter Clute from Legendary Motor Cars. Yes. Yes. The Canadian shop. And
he, he just seems to know like a hell of a lot. I imagine Wayne Carini as well. There's a few others,
but, but on the Mopars side, I think, I think Mark Warman is probably the guy that knows,
he's the guy that Goldberg always calls when he's got questions about that stuff. So
you've got to kind of know, like, I know the Chevelle Camaro codes pretty well. Like I,
I use, and I forgot some of the stuff. I'm sure it would come back to me pretty fast, but like,
I used to know, and I used to look for him a lot at swap meets and stuff like the factory
carburetors. I'd look on the air horns and I knew that a certain code, you know, like, like, you
know, it's not a 3310, a Holley 3310 is just a 850 double pumper. But, but like, you know, a 3310
dash, whatever, you know, was off of a certain Chevelle. And, and I knew air cleaners and I knew,
you know, all that stuff. But you got to do it all the time, because that's a lot of numbers
to have on in your head, you know. But I know it a lot better now after doing all this.
After doing a video about it. I'm refreshing my memory and doing all the research. All, all back to,
back to, back to, you know, copacetic, because it's fun, though. It's, it makes you
want to go on one of those, you know, kind of the treasure hunt, where, you know, some rare part
that you go, wow, and I knew it was because, you know, I found this and it had the right number on
it or, you know, because there's a lot of stuff. Like, like simply I've got an aluminum water pump
that I bought out at the Long Beach Swamp Meet. And I picked it up one day and I looked at it
and I knew the number and I went, this is off a factory ZL1 aluminum big block Camaro, you know.
And if you're restoring one of those, and those cars are worth going towards a million dollars now,
if you're restoring one of those, you got to have one of these water pumps, you know, and,
and so it's, it's one of those cool things. It's like, wow, I found gold, you know.
Do you still have it?
It's aluminum. I do still have it. Yes.
Why don't you sell it?
That's a good question. I got a lot of stuff like that.
You have an aluminum 427 that you're restoring?
Not yet. I got an aluminum, you know, Can-Am small block.
Then maybe you should sell the water pump.
Yeah, I probably should sell the water pump here.
Absolutely.
Put it into the, to the Chevelle fund.
I'll tell you the reason I didn't sell it is because my Baldwin Motion Vega used the same
water pump and I kept it in case I ever needed it.
Because the one on my Vega is the same exact water pump with the same number.
All right. Well, now it makes sense to have it.
But I mean, at some point, you got to look at all the stuff you have and go
I know, you know, maybe I'm doing that right now as I go through my,
my garage with my hands up and I'm shimmying through trying to get down the next
aisle of the hoarder's garage.
And I said, yeah, I got it.
We, we look at look at that garage and go, I've got to build the Chevelle.
What's this garage worth?
What's all this stuff in this garage worth?
How am I going to am I is it worth it to you to go?
I can clear out this garage, finish my ADU and have a Chevelle,
or I can have all this crap in my garage.
I can't even finish my guesthouse without removing everything out of there.
And so I've got to make room here to put it here.
And then I can go through it and get rid of it all because I've got stuff like,
I've got this compressor.
I'm sure somebody shop could use this compressor.
One of those giant ones, you know, the, the recycling ones that you use in like a
body shop or something that I bought and it's still on the pallet sitting in,
in the back of my warehouse.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm never going to, to use this.
I need to get rid of it, you know, and I just, it's buried.
I can't sell it because it's buried.
I got to unbury it so I can sell it.
I realized I said ADU.
And then I was, I mentioned the, to Tammy, it was from St. Louis.
And I was like, you got this big property out there.
It's like, you can build an ADU like the family.
And she's like, no one out there knows what that is.
Right.
That's a California thing.
Yeah.
Is that, is that mostly just like a California thing?
ADU?
ADU is accessory dwelling unit.
And in my head, I always, I always thought additional dwelling unit as well as like,
I know it's accessory dwelling unit, but it's like building, it's, it's a guest house.
It's like, yes, like a non attached guest house or office or, you know, like a,
like a live work, little office garage thing on your property, like something like that.
But I don't know.
I guess in the Midwest is just like basements that are under the house.
No, it's, it's out in California.
They have to rename everything.
Like we have, we don't have homeless people.
We have unhoused people.
Yeah.
And we do have quite a bit of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, you know what I mean?
Everything has 43,000 to be specific.
Justin in LA.
That's why I read a, I read a thing that we sell more of those blue tarps in,
in California than, and they were breaking it down.
And I'm like going, I knew the end of the article before I got to it.
I'm like, yeah, it's because they're homes to these people, you know, it's not,
it's not a blue tarp that you use to cover the stuff on your car trailer, you know.
It'd be funny.
It's probably like 30% of all revenue for Harbor Freight.
It's the blue, the blue tarp.
At least out here it is.
Not so sad.
City of LA is converting every single one of their street lights to solar because
so many people had.
Obscounded with the copper wire out of it that,
and they would fix it and it would get stolen again, fix it.
Or potentially.
They're wiring it.
Because now you have to install batteries and unless the batteries are way up on the top,
then how do you swap them out when you need to swap out the batteries?
And then are the, if they're down below where you access the copper wiring,
or is everyone going to just start stealing batteries?
And wait a minute.
So they have to put batteries in them?
Because the solar.
They can't wire the solar panel directly into the one light bulb?
But then it won't work at night unless there's a battery.
When you need the light on, you need the battery.
Oh, that's right.
You've got to store the power somewhere.
Yes.
They're going to steal all the batteries.
Boy, is that a dumb statement I just made.
I didn't even think of it that way.
That's right.
Then the light would be on during the day, but not at night.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
So now they're going to steal the batteries and turn them in for the.
Yeah.
Anyway, it's enough about California's problems.
Nobody wants to hear about that.
Yeah.
California is the place you want to be.
They should load up the truck and move to Beverly.
Hills, that is.
The Indy 500's got a full field this year.
Yeah.
It's going to be exciting.
Greated delivery for two of the cars.
I'm not surprised.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Already.
Because usually they wait for the last minute and.
It already was the last minute.
He was flipping out because they came to him with the second car really,
really late when they finally put the sponsors together.
And Dave was like, yeah, well, when's the race?
Okay.
He's thinking he's got all the time in the world.
And they're like, no, no, no.
We've got it because they got to photograph everything ahead of time for the programs and for the.
You know, the Fox package, like the on air package.
Yeah.
And all the free publicity and.
And they told him like on a Friday and wanted him to have everything by Sunday night.
And he goes, that can't happen.
That can't happen.
And he still got it done by Monday night though.
He's awesome, man.
That guy.
Does he get the charged extra for the rush fee?
I think he did.
Yeah.
I think he did.
Yeah.
Well, he should.
Yeah.
No, you got to charge a rush fee.
I mean, it's because they'll, they'll just ask for more and then they get, get it back.
You know, there's a little tweak here.
Can we make that tweak?
And it's like, wait, wait a minute.
People don't understand.
And I quite frankly, I didn't understand it until I got involved doing stuff with Dave where
these cars, because he does all the Honda Indy cars and, and you know, a lot of the drag racing
cars and stuff when now that they do all these in wraps.
Yeah.
There is so much mathematics because if you just build it and then they go wrapping it,
everything's wonky, you know, they've got to use all these, these, you know,
methods to get everything to look right as it wraps around the car.
And you'll read and everything.
A simple way to explain it is in the, in the beverage industry, if you have a bottle or even a can
and you do a shrink wrap on it, it shrinks wraps around the neck and it's tighter
around the neck.
And if you put a word up on the top, you know, like no sugar or sugar free or 10 calories,
you have to do it correctly.
Otherwise it's skewed and your 10 calories is stretched really tall or whatever, or,
you know, or really thin or, you know, it's like going to the, the fun house.
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
And now extrapolate that.
Look at all the angles and the bends and everything that's on an Indy car, you know, or a
Right.
I believe every one of those sponsors wants their logo to look exactly to their specs.
They don't want to be skewed or anything and, you know, altered in any way.
So yeah, I imagine that has to be taken to an account.
And from Dave's point of view, he's done enough of the cars that I think he understands
the curves and how it, you know, like where to put graphics and where not to put graphics and not,
you know, how, how tall or wide, you know, certain graphics or letters or wording should
be so it doesn't get skewed on a curve or around something.
So I'm sure he knows.
And then he always most.
Then he always hides these little Easter eggs, you know, like on Ron Cap's funny car,
we were out at the races and, and we were doing a video standing next to his funny car and,
and Dave goes, and Ron, you haven't even said anything about how you like the new wrap.
And Ron goes, no, I love it.
What do you mean?
Are you kidding me?
You know, and he goes, yeah, but he didn't say anything about the, and it's spattered with
these little dots all down the side and, and he goes, yeah, no, I like that.
And he goes, do you know what it is?
And, and Ron goes, what do you mean what it is?
And he, and he pointed out to him while we were standing right there that it's the space between
the, the N and the A on the Napa and he made it into a design and it's not just a dot.
It's actually a graphic, you know, thing.
And it's just like, you know, wow.
I mean, you know, he took the time to do that and nobody even notices.
You know, I mean, it's, but it's cool.
It's cool.
Yeah.
It's good and it's smart.
That's why he gets, that's why he gets all the good jobs.
That's why he gets the big ones, yeah.
The, so the Indy 500 full field, which is exciting in itself, because when you get 33 cars
on, on that race, all on the track together, that's pretty incredible.
And we haven't had that for a while.
And it just shows, it's just proof positive of, you know, how strong of an economy we have,
no inflation and like that, that there are, oh wait, that's a political statement, isn't it?
I shouldn't even say that.
Matt, what are you doing?
Who, who's the one going for a double?
Catherine Legg.
Yeah.
Catherine Legg.
It's going to run Indy 500 and the Coca-Cola 600.
It's a short window.
When you do the math, Indy 500 starts, it's like, I don't know, three hours or ish or so.
Then you've got to get out of the car, get out of the Indy 500, maybe by helicopter,
get to an airport on a plane and then fly and then get ready to drive the NASCAR race.
What do we have?
Like six people do it?
I'm sorry?
Tony, I'm trying to figure out how many people have done that.
I would say 545 maybe.
I think it's like six.
Kyle Larson, Tony Stewart, Tony Stewart did it.
I think he actually got like top six in both races.
I remember Robbie Gordon did it and I believe Robbie didn't finish the race that he did or
something like that.
But also if you hit some weather or something, you're not going to make the race or you're
going to be late or whatever.
Well, she's got to be hoping that there's very few yellows, no big accidents where they got to
clear the track and clean the track.
Because like you said, she's going to zoom over to a helicopter that's already started
up sitting there on the infield.
It's going to take off.
They're going to land at the private airstrip in Indy with a jet that's already sitting
there idling.
Get on that jet.
That jet's going to land wherever she's going.
The helicopter is going to take her to the infield of that track and they're going to run
her over to the car that's probably sitting on the grid that somebody else already parked
out there and boom, jump in and go hopefully get like like a little hour nap on that flight
over.
I don't know, between one race and the other, the adrenaline's going.
Who, you know, I don't know.
I think it'd be great if she does it and then they got an in-car camera and she's coming
around 200 miles an hour and all of a sudden they look at her and she's like, he's going
to be yawn going, you know, I think she was saying that.
So Kyle Larson, I think, did it twice or attempted to do it twice.
And if I recall correctly his comments, and I don't follow this too much, so I'm sure
some of you listening know better than I do, but his comments were, well, you could probably
do it, but the question is, is how well will you perform if you do it?
And it's like, is it worth doing if you can't be competitive and do well?
Like if you're just going to go out there with your intention of being back in the pack,
like then don't do it.
So if your intention is to do well, then go and do it.
So, you know, then there are some other things.
If something happens to her car or there's some damage and she gets out of the Indy 500
early, like if there's a DNF, I'm not saying that would happen.
You obviously don't want that to happen.
You want to finish the race.
But if there's a DNF, does she get extra time to just like pack up her stuff and go?
Well, let me ask you this.
What in this scenario?
What if she wins and she gets up there and she's like, yeah, I don't have time for all
that pomp and circumstance.
Give me my bottle of milk.
I got to go.
Okay, boom.
And she jumps on the, you know, I mean, that'd be a hard thing.
You just won the Indy 500.
You got to stick around.
You don't get to go race the other race.
Yeah, like I'll fly back.
I'll see you guys back in a few more hours.
Yeah.
All right.
Who's going to win the Indy 500?
Uh, it's going to be a guy in a winged four wheel car with bright colors.
I don't know.
I think, I think, uh, I think if you were on FanDuel, the favorite right now is Alex Polo.
Okay.
Makes sense.
I, I would also say that, uh, Pato Award and, uh, due to win, I guess you could say.
Pato is, is, I think it was second in 2024 and third in 2025 and he wants it.
He wants it bad.
Kyle Kirkwood's doing well.
I think he wants it.
Obviously they all want it, but, uh, Alex Polo,
if he got it, um, I think that'd be two for him.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
We'll see.
It'll be interesting to see.
I will not be there.
I will be watching it.
I might not even be watching.
I got to admit, I might be cleaning my warehouse so that I can, uh, get all that stuff I talked
about earlier.
Hey, are you going to do the double header as well?
Like half a leg, you're going to clean the warehouse at your shop and then the garage
at your house.
There you go.
If I could get that done in a weekend, oh my God, with that, uh,
Well, the helicopter out front of bond speed to take you home to get it there.
Quickly get it done.
Oh, I need a bulldozer, a bulldozer to take me home that I could just clean it and just
push it all into the dumpster.
You know, um, uh, all right, it is, uh, I think we got to take a quick break.
You think so?
I think it's due.
We'll do that.
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Okay we're back and Matt I was doing some research while we were away from the break
and you know FanDuel has added prediction markets you know they have a prediction
market app now did you know that? I did not and are you familiar with the prediction markets?
You know it's where you where you predict something to happen and you can bet and make
money like you know there's things on like there were things that that one military guy that just
got into big trouble because he predicted that the leader of Venezuela would be ousted and be
back in the US by a certain date and he made like a half million dollars off of that prediction
and well it was because he was on the team going to do it.
Yeah that's that's a little insider trading I guess. Yeah exactly but a lot of that's happening
because there's people predicting oil will go down tomorrow and then you find out oh well
yeah they're on the cabinet you know or whatever but anyways the I'm wondering if you can predict
like I have not been on FanDuel's site to look at it but I wonder if you can predict like who'll
spin out first in the Indy 500 you know who'll
miss their stop at the you know not make their their little slot in the in their pit stop you
know things like that because those are kind of things that I would think would be kind of fun.
You know I'm actually I'm pulling for Graham Rahall Graham's been having a pretty good season
obviously he's a you're pulling for him to do the first spin out. No I want him to do well he's
having a decent season he's got a couple of podiums so far and I like Graham and
he and I are friendly so I would like to see him do well there I think he's definitely do
for something yeah yeah but you know I forgot to mention so over at Adam's production company
at Chassis Media they finished the Bobby Rahall documentary and they've been working on it yeah
it's on FS1 if you guys get that Fox Sports on FS1 it started airing on the 8th but it airs multiple
times between now and the Indy 500 so it's a great on Fox Sports one yeah it's a documentary about
Bobby Rahall and it's it'll be on FS1 I don't know if they're going to move it to any of
the other channels because I don't get FS1 so I went to go and like record it again and watch it
and but it's been in the works for a long time and it'll be very interesting to see I haven't
seen the finished film yet actually so I've only seen pieces of it as it was being edited over it
over at Adam's place so excited about that so if you guys do catch that if you have FS1
search I guess just search like your cable provider or the FS1 app or whatever you're doing
just search for Bobby Rahall and see if you can find the documentary and then yeah let us know what
you think I've checked that out yeah that's cool I didn't know it was out already so that's that's
neat yeah many many years of the making yes yes well how long has Bobby Rahall been racing that's
how many years they've been making yeah the the other thing that is kind of not really not really
news about automotive but quite cool is if you heard a number of years back
that there was a now if you I'll have to explain this to you but a World War II
plane and it was a P-38 now you've probably seen a photo of a P-38 somewhere it was the one that had
like a main fuselage then it had a two motor fuselages on either side of it it was almost
like a triple with a single wing and a double tail and really really a sexy looking you know
just really really a sexy looking plane but almost I I'm not sure if a single one of them
survived World War II I don't know that that much but there was a this goes clear back to 1978
when a guy who was an airplane enthusiast had heard a tale of a downed World War II plane
that had crashed in Greenland's ice and snow cap you know and so I guess in 1980 they decided they
would take an adventure and they'd go check it out and see if they could dig one of these planes
out and restore them and let's just say 1980 was a while back and they just now got it flying so
they didn't realize how crazy hard this would be they decided oh it's in it's encased in an ice cube
it'll be easy well it was almost 300 feet below the ice yeah think of that I mean think of think of
you get a chunk of ice let's say you go buy an ice block for those of you that have ever bought
an ice block and you just try and chunk through that well think about trying to chunk through 300
feet of it and the size of a plane I mean that's that's a lot I mean they kind of thought he had
a quote that he said he just thought they'd kind of sweep the snow off the wings shovel them out
yeah do a little fly at home yeah kind of like an episode of fry burger show where
he you know well just put a little carburetor cleaner in there and you know get the brakes working
and you know drive it home man yeah well that didn't work so 50 years after it landed there
it took another decade to get its first flight and it last flew in 1942 I mean that gives you an
idea how long ago it was but it's pretty rad that they got this thing going and you know that they're
actually flying it they call it glacier girl they gave it a name of glacier so it's pretty cool
it's a it's a cool story I wonder if they did they document this whole thing I guess when they
started it that we weren't too you know we weren't out there with iPhones yeah but no they did I
remember there was a lot of footage coming out when they first went up because they were trying to
raise money to help them get it out and stuff like that and apparently one of the little known
things about this is that when they were digging it out they also found a willy mammoth and a big
foot so yeah is it will or woolly woolly mammoth I saw him see no man I know what they found
they found Brandon Fraser
why have they never found a a big foot why is it you know they see him on camera but we never
find a dead one we never find you know anything any remains or anything nobody ever takes a clear
photo oh they're always fuzzy yeah yeah I think I think what it is is they are fuzzy they just
smear themselves with Vaseline so that they're always a little fuzzy you know it's
it's all sus as the kids would say it's pretty it's speaking of sus how about all those uh
all the footage and the history of of UFOs and stuff that the government just dropped
I didn't I didn't comb through it yet is there anyone you know was there an alien you're familiar
no but this one was driving a pretty nice muscle car it was a no but I mean it's like
it's like it was kind of weird they they finally drop all this stuff and there were things like
there were quotes from astronauts you know you know all the astronauts how they oh no we never
saw another now now they're coming out and saying well we actually did and now that the government
said we can talk about it and we saw lots of them and they're like oh we saw stuff on the moon
like you wouldn't believe well then why didn't they tell us about it before and and why is it all
coming out now is it supposed to just make us think about that instead of other things that are
going on like price of a loaf of bread being 42 dollars you know yeah who did they tell just
there's a big show coming up this weekend uh I've got one to talk about I think you've got
one to talk about the one I'm gonna uh go to is the Benedict Castle event I went to the very first
one they ever had and uh pretty cool show it's really grown over the years and it's a very diverse
show you see everything there um and it's a show being in Riverside California you never know what's
gonna show up I mean you know like uh Jay Leno's shown up with cars before pretty much the who's
who of the hot rod world and the car world and uh so it's it's gonna be fun I'm gonna I was asked to
help judge this year so I'm gonna be out there judging and uh you know how I hate to be judgmental
but uh somebody's got to do it so that is May 17th is that something people can go to yeah
people can buy a ticket and go to it it's a great event really cool fundraiser as well right like
that's a fundraiser and it's for the uh Benedict uh castle uh it's a youth uh program out there to
help them get uh out of drugs and things like that and wow man if you you just can't believe this
place it's on acres and acres of groomed um you know uh land and there's a big castle there that
some guy way back when built and he donated it so that people could use it for things like this uh
for you know time and eternity pretty cool we went out there years ago we did a live podcast
yes Aaron yeah we did some stuff out there we did I forgot all about that now you mentioned it we did
go out there that year that is right it's a pretty cool place isn't it yeah so we were at the car show
portion we weren't like we didn't do like the gala they they do it they do a thing the night before
I wouldn't really call it a gala I went two years ago and um it's it's a it's a nice fundraiser dinner
and uh you know it's a it's you know there's guys in suits and ties and there's guys in jeans and
nice shirts um but they do things uh there uh such as they have a uh uh an artist draw off
I don't think that's the name but they each give them a subject and a time to do it in
and they all draw something up uh you know like the year I was there it was uh Chip Fuss and Dave
Merrick and uh gosh I'm forgetting half the people um but they all drew and uh and you know it's fun
they they're you know the guy'll go over and they've got a big screen and he'll kind of go over their
shoulder and see where they're at and yeah and uh it shows how fast they can draw something and
conceptualize something and it's really like I mean it's fast I mean they only have like
eight minutes to do it in you know it's it's it's really really uh yeah it's cool yeah so it's pretty
cool event yes you can buy tickets go and uh no matter what kind of cars you're into you're
gonna see something you're gonna like there and meet a lot of people and if you want to meet people
that you've seen on tv and stuff like that from the automotive world and even the general world
there's a lot of people out there I've seen lots of people out there uh over the years I I saw
Matt DeAndrea Motorator and Aaron Hager out there when he was there yeah yeah that's awesome
Saturday you guys still have time Saturday May 16th in Irvine California is the Seagram
Seagram Shelby Tribute event and Seagram has a Shelby event center
that they they built and it's cool so I've been down there and I've I've seen it so I guess they
just had a Shelby collection they decided well why don't we turn this into a museum so they they
redid this entire building with this two stories with this wonderful sort of loft area and
and uh really really cool stuff in there so not too many people stack like six Shelby's on top of
each other you know back to back and uh if you go to Seagram Shelby event center dot com or just
google Seagram Shelby and you'll find it you'll come up there and you'll see it so yeah you
can see what they're doing you can check out the event you can see some cars I believe Aaron
Shelby's going to be out there so if you haven't met him yet he's uh he's lovely you can go and
say hi to him and take pictures and sign stuff and it should be a good event I went to one
out there it was I think it was more than just a Shelby show but also they're kind of like
next door to uh uh superformance right so yeah it's down in that area where Lamborghini is everybody
it's kind of in that yeah but they're like on the same street so if you go to the Seagram Shelby
center and you walk down and the superformance has like a big warehouse with cobras and stuff
you can just walk around on there I don't think it was the original showroom that they had but
this is like a warehouse so when I was there for an event they had that open as well so they had
both buildings so you can walk from one end and then in between the two buildings that street was
closed off and that's where everybody just brought their show cars so you you start from Seagram
Shelby event center and you walk down to superformance and and you see everybody's cars and
then you can see you know pop into there as well and see all that stuff so it's cool it's cool and
the thing about it is um unlike the Peterson museum or something like that it's not open all the time
so you can only get to go in there during special events like this so it's pretty pretty special
and it's definitely if you're in the area definitely worth going because it's if you're into
Mustangs into anything for really uh it's really really a cool cool collection definitely check out
the website and stuff and find out is like how much of it is free and how much of it is pay there
might be two tiers there you might be able to see all the show cars out on the street people that bring
their cars that's free and then maybe some of the museum stuff you'd have to pay
really it's so expensive that it brings you to tears two tiers it does it brings you to
tears just like everything everything's more I mean it's a donation to yeah they're raising money
I mean 20 bucks or something like that it's um but um uh no it's some great events I mean
that's the thing about Southern California you know I mean we complain about Southern California a
lot you know the costs and all this but man where else can you go where in a single weekend there's
all these fantastic events that you can go to you know every single weekend there's a bunch of
great things for car car lovers motorcycle lovers truck lovers if the sun is out then cars are out
isn't that the saying I don't know I'm dead in line I don't think it's the same
all right all right I think we can wrap it up yeah call it a day and I'm sure it'll be back
next week so we'll we'll hear about the rally next week um Matt you got anything to promote
uh I do not nothing nothing fancy right now I mean the Bobby Ray Hall dock I didn't really work on
that that's not me but that's uh that's friends yeah yeah all those guys and if you're if you're
listening to this and you make it out to the Benedict Castle event um and you see me what I
want you to do is from across the grass is loud as you can go hey it's Brad from shift and stare
that's what that's what we want to hear okay it's Bradley underscore fanshow Bradley underscore
fanshow from shift actually if you really want to make a great Bradley underscore fanshow from
shift and stare with moderator and Aaron Hagar you know it'd be just it'd be awesome people
look at you and they know you you arrived so all right everybody we'll be back next week and that's
promise not a threat thank you
About this episode
The hosts kick off with Aaron’s rally updates and then get into a surprisingly personal thread about worsening eyesight—reading menus, freeway signage, and even how LASIK choices trade near vs. distance vision. The conversation shifts to Indy 500 logistics: a full field, tight sponsor/photography deadlines, and the challenge of doing Indy 500 and the Coca-Cola 600 in a short window. Between that, they discuss collector-car authenticity (Chevelle cowl codes, hidden VINs, matching numbers) and wrap with Benedict Castle Concourse judging and upcoming Southern California Shelby Tribute plans.
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