Like, why, why, why the fuck did I, would I care about what somebody else
thinks if I know what I'm doing or not?
Yeah, this is what your, this is what your kid authorized.
If you don't want to continue more, this is what you owe me.
This is where we're at.
The card starts and runs.
It wasn't starting and running.
Unfortunately, there's more problems, but it was beyond our control.
We did things for your, your kid that the car may or may not have issues.
We don't know until we get the network back online.
It's just the nature of it.
That was, that's all I had to say.
I didn't have to say anything else.
But again, it's just those magical words.
You don't know what you're doing.
You know, it's ego.
That's just, that's, that's your ego.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had, we had to use Carl.
That guy that luckily I didn't deal with him directly very much.
My guy did, but he left us just a frigging scathing Google review.
All the same stuff.
Like, we don't know what we're doing.
A bunch of idiots don't ever let these morons touch your car, blah, blah, blah.
He wanted this, you know, used cluster in this Jetta.
And it was a complete disaster from the word go.
He's trying to spend as little money as possible.
And we didn't even end up charging him anything on the what we did
because we were just like, yeah, we can't make this happen.
Sorry, man, have fun and just just I did let it bother me for like days.
Just that it's up there on Google on our business profile.
I'm like, fuck this guy.
And then I don't know.
It just it took me a few days to just be like, you know what, it doesn't matter.
You know, we got, you know, 20 other like five stars from the people
that really have had a good experience with us and wanted to go on there
and put it on there.
Like obviously, like that's not representative of what we do.
But like that one, even though like we fix like 15, 20 cars a day
and people are happy about it, like that one bothered me
for like three days.
It's dumb. It's stupid.
But yeah, like you say, there's an ego part of it.
Well, may I ask, what was the issue?
Like you couldn't adapt to use cluster or they just had a bunch of you.
Well, so well, there's a whole lot to it.
He provided the wrong cluster to start.
And we tried mess around.
And then I was like, OK, well, we got to get the right cluster.
We got the right cluster or so that I found.
And I still wasn't able to make it happen on the technical side of things.
So, you know, a Volkswagen will make you
fill out those forms now for mobilizer parts.
Yeah, if it's used.
Yeah. So for whatever reason, at that time on my Otis,
it wouldn't fill in the VIN field.
And if the VIN field is not filled in on that with the font
and the color that they want, they'll just reject it.
And putting it in there on paint doesn't work.
They don't like that.
I couldn't get them to accept it.
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That was at the point where I'm just like, amen, I'm not I'm not going to spend
any more time on this because he was dick the whole way through.
And we're like, you know, peace out, you know, sorry, I couldn't make it happen.
Have a good one.
And that's when he gave us a bad review.
Yeah, like you said, it doesn't matter.
It really doesn't matter that I didn't really care to lose him as a customer,
but I let the public facing, you know,
the comments about us get to me because like the business is a reflection
of me, right? And I mean, it is a lot of effort that I put in,
but who cares what some, you know, one dude wants to put up on Google.
It doesn't matter the end of the day.
I know what we're doing is right every day.
You can look on Google.
He's left one star reviews for like every single business he's gone to.
Yeah, I'm starting to read this.
And like the fact that this guy wrote an entire soap opera
because he spent two hundred dollars on a on a used part
to try to save a thousand dollars.
Yeah, it's like, exactly.
But you had a really good response.
And sometimes those reviews are just that, man.
Like at the end of the day, dude, like we're not going to we're not
to shop for everybody. We're not going to please everybody.
I've I've taken like the higher type of approach and I don't
I do my best to accommodate people
to make sure that they can leave with a quality repair
at the best price that I can give them without sacrificing the quality of my repair.
But they're caveats, right?
I I turned down a couple jobs
because it's just it just didn't feel comfortable.
Like I have to be happy with the repair in order for me to feel comfortable.
And and, you know, some people don't care.
Some people do.
I just at the end of the day, I can't lose who I am
because I'm because I'm trying to accomplish something, right?
No, I don't want, you know, somebody badmouthing me or my shop.
I rather just, you know, let that that company go.
And, you know, one of the difficult parts I have with retail right now
was the ungodly amount of people who are buying aftermarket warranties.
And that's fine, dude.
I'll play that game with them all day long.
The problem I have is I have a strict procedure in order to save us from
from from wasting our time.
And, you know, that becomes a battle in itself, too.
I had a gentleman reached out that had just that bought a warranty.
There was a lack of communication on my on my service writers part.
So we we ate this one.
But so what I do is, Mr.
Customer, if no work is approved or if you can't provide me
with a contract that we can read and we have to contact the company
to see what if your claim is covered.
If they deny your claim, it's one hundred and sixty five dollars.
I go, that's basically an hour of our time.
If they approve some work, you don't you don't pay this.
I go, but I go, these insurance these warranty companies
do not pay for the entire repair.
I spent ten minutes with the customers telling them, listen,
sometimes they want to use inferior parts, which is fine.
We won't we do not install them.
What we do is we'll take the money that they're paying us.
I go, and if it's a thousand dollars that they're paying us
and it's a two thousand dollar ticket, you have to pay the other two
to the other dollars.
If you're comfortable with that, great, we can help you.
If you're not comfortable with that, fine.
Your your your warranty company will point you to the direction
of a shop that works better for their budget.
And I tell them just like that.
But then we had this guy who came in for an engine concern, right?
And again, this was this was like kind of a failure on my on my guy's part.
He went right to like starting the claim, blah, blah, blah.
The guy bought this insurance two days ago.
Fuck, now they red flagged the car and gave him his money back.
Yes.
And we're like, why didn't you tell us you just bought it?
What does it matter?
I'm like, did you read the contract?
No.
Yeah, obviously.
Like I had another guy who
who who the the warranty company wanted to ship us
some eBay lower control arms.
And I said, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
The owner's like, oh, man, just install them.
I don't need any warranty.
I said, absolutely not.
I'm sorry. I draw a line.
I said, no, I if there were if it was like, look, if they would have
brought me to send me some dormant parts, I would just charge him my
my my my labor rate, my higher labor rate.
And I don't care.
Like it's not my problem.
Yeah.
But or like something that at least I know the name.
Dude, I don't even know this.
This brand's like, I've never even heard of this brand.
Like, no, I'm not Chinese.
Yeah, or whatever the hell it is, it's all Chinese.
But I don't know.
Like I'm not going to risk my future in my business
because if something happens to you, you're going to sue me.
Oh, no, I'd never do that.
OK, maybe not you.
But what if you get into an accident and kill somebody else?
They sure as fuck will.
No, I go when it comes to safety concerns, I will not bend.
I'm sorry.
If you want, we can take the money that they're offering us.
We'll apply it to the actual repair
if you want for some good quality parts
that we can warranty for two years, 24 miles.
So that's that's like my my fine line.
I have no problem adjusting value or adjusting my price
to keep my guys moving and make money.
But I am not going to sacrifice quality of my repair.
It's going to be a lot of extra spending on the phone
or back and forth with those people, though.
Well, you know what, man, with the warranty companies,
dude, we've we've I understand the game, man.
I do.
So it's not it's not really hard or not
really a big waste of time.
The problem is, honestly, the customers,
they have these grand expectations.
I had a guy who who sent me a picture of the flyer and said,
yeah, they cover this.
I'm like, sir, this isn't a contract.
I need your contract.
Oh, I don't have one.
I'm like, you need a contract.
Like they all said, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.
Call the company.
I said it's $165 if I call the company.
He's like, what?
That's ridiculous.
I said, OK, well, then you call them then.
But what am I going to tell them?
My whole point, we have to look at your vehicle.
We have to get up.
We have to get an estimate ready.
And if they don't approve it and you don't want to fix your car,
that's an hour of our time.
We need to get compensated.
I'm sorry.
It is what it's all.
But they're going to prove it.
I said, OK, if they're going to prove it,
then you don't pay $165.
But if they don't, then you pay $165.
I don't know what you don't understand.
So that's that's the hard part.
I don't even have a problem with the warranty companies
because they play the stupid game.
Now they're getting smarter.
Now they're using their own labor matrices.
So now my labor rate goes up.
I wouldn't have.
All right, cool. No problem.
And I want some extra 20 bucks.
Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to deal with that.
We did have one.
We had a car in the shop that we ended up
going back and forth with them.
But yeah, it doesn't sound like any fun.
It was a consumer or?
Yeah, the individual who owned the vehicle
and ended up coming to our shop because it was intermittent.
And we were like, hey, we're not going to do this here.
If you want, drop it off at our shop.
I've got an intern now who can babysit stuff like that.
And so that's what I did.
And we ended up finding out, OK, it needs an ECM.
But then we had to do the back and forth with them
and what they'd pay for and what they
wanted to put in there and all that stuff.
So that's fun.
Yeah, I would not do that for a diagonal like that.
I won't even waste my time.
They pay 0.3 if you can even get anything out of them
and they won't pay you anything else.
Yeah, I think that was the situation
where the customer was fronting the majority for the dyag
and then but they paid for the part or something like that.
I don't know.
Yeah, for electrical stuff, I tell my clients,
I'm like, dude, unless you have a platinum package
or a really high premium package, they don't pay for shit.
And I don't care who it is.
So again, we'll get them as much as I can.
But more than likely, you're going
to be paying for 80% of this repair.
Yeah, and trying to explain to them
this intermittent O2 sensor circuit code
and how we went about getting it, they have no clue.
I remember I had to create a write up
for one of my clients when I was mobile.
He had a sticking actuator due to a little oil pressure
and I caught it with a scope.
It was intermittent, but it was stalling out the engine.
It was just like the PCM was trying to command it back
and it wasn't physically moving.
And they kicked back my, the junkyard didn't like my claim.
Because they didn't understand,
because they didn't, I sent them away for them.
I typed it up and I did everything, the whole thing.
They're like, we don't know what this is.
What the fuck is this?
Yeah, exactly.
What testing did you do?
I'm like, you're looking at it.
He's like, what's this?
I'm like.
That's not a code.
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't have any proof.
I'm like, it's right here.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you've been in that conversation
plenty of times where somebody's debating one thing
or another with you and you're getting
into the specific details.
And like, you can tell they have no fucking clue,
like any of this stuff.
Like, why am I, why am I even talking right now?
Like you don't, you have no idea what is going on here,
what we're doing.
So we can't even have this argument.
Or I had a warranty company.
Oh, this one was my favorite one.
We had a warrant.
We had a guy with a blown engine, had an extended warranty.
The company was like, no problem, man.
He's been a client, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But they played their song and dance.
Oh, we need, we need oil change.
We need your maintenance records.
I did a RC test to show the customer the,
but we told him like, we're gonna find out a claim.
So I do something else too.
That's interesting.
I, I get my Pterodon money up front, for example.
Okay.
We had this customer with this vehicle,
a K-Dip, had fucking, I need an engine.
Like it jumped timing.
Like you can hear it, whatever I did a RC test,
it was trashed.
The rear bank was wiped.
Like it was garbage, engine was trashed.
And you know, I didn't do anything, but, but that.
And then the engine, so, so he's like,
oh, you got a warranty claim.
I'm like, listen, man, I go,
we need 500 bucks up front right now.
And we'll fire a claim.
He's like, for what?
I said, okay, this is what's going to happen.
They don't know what I'm talking about.
They're going to have us disassemble either the upper half
of the engine or the tie or the,
or they're going to want me to do a manual compression test,
which requires me to pull the intake.
I go, and then if they don't,
if they deny my claim,
I have to reassemble your intake.
Plus my dyag time.
So I said, I need 500 bucks up front before we do that.
Because again, he's like, but,
but I said, if they approve the work,
you'll get your 500 bucks back
or it goes towards the job or whatever they don't pay.
He's like, this is just to cover my time
because they, they do not pay for tear down time.
Even if they approve the work, I don't get paid for it.
But I'll do you that solid.
He's like, okay, fine.
So it gives me the money.
We call it in.
I send them that.
And of course they're like,
no, we need to send an adjuster.
All right, cool.
The adjuster gets it.
Didn't tell us anything.
The adjuster shows up.
Oh, I need a compression test.
So we gave him cylinder number one.
I mean, cylinder number two front bank, zero.
He's like, okay, now I need to do the back window.
I was like, okay.
Just make sure you tell the client
that we're tearing this down.
Cause in case he doesn't believe us.
So I documented everything.
We tore it back down right in front of him.
Compression the back, one had 50.
The other one had zero.
The other one had 50.
Like it was, the engine was just junk.
He's like, yeah, I need an engine.
But yeah.
Yeah, I know.
And he couldn't, they didn't like,
this guy had his uncle do one of his oil changes.
So he's like, there gonna be a problem.
He's like, no, it's just,
where's the receipt for the oil?
That's fine.
They don't care who does it.
They just need, they need paperwork.
He had his uncle write him a receipt
that he did his oil change.
So they kicked that.
He found some shop to write him a receipt.
I don't know, it was funny,
but this entire process,
I had this car in my little parking lot
next door for like a month, dude.
No, like a month and a half.
And finally like, dude, come pick up your car, dude.
Like they're not gonna pay for this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We went back and forth with them
two, three, four times, dude,
when finally they're like,
we don't even know what we're talking to you,
they told us.
I'm like, why?
He stopped paying last month.
Bye.
So my writer was like, what the fuck?
So he calls them up.
He's like, did you stop?
I was like, yeah,
he's like, well, now they're not gonna pay
cause you're out of contract.
He's like, really?
He's like, yes, you didn't pay for a warranty period.
You're paying monthly.
Like a service, like a subscription.
You dingbat.
Cause I come pick up your car
or it's 85 bucks a day storage starting right now.
So, okay.
So did you find your why
as to why you're dealing with all this stuff
on a daily basis?
Like what is your reason to keep going back every day
and getting more and more of that?
You're gonna laugh, man,
cause this is gonna be out of left field,
but I have various why's.
I have my vision board here.
Like there's a couple of toys I want.
There's some property I'd like to purchase.
But even with that,
it was just like, it's not like to end all be all.
You're gonna, this is gonna shock the shit out you.
So when I was younger,
so you know, obviously everybody and their mama knows
that my parents are from Guatemala.
So I used to go to Guatemala as a kid
and my dad used to say,
be careful with those little kids
cause they're gonna try to rob you.
And I'm like, well, I mean, I grew up in the hood.
So I was just like, okay, no problem.
Like I never asked why or nothing.
But I also noticed something
that my dad would never give them money,
but my dad would always take cash to like the,
there's older people that sometimes would be begging
or like would be in the churches
begging for money or whatever.
He always gave them like money.
Like he'd actually take American money
and give them American money, like dollars.
And I asked him, why?
He's like, hey, pops, why,
why do you give the old people money
but not like the young or the kids?
He's like, because the young ones can work.
I'm like, and the kids usually have a parent
that is right around the corner pushing them to beg.
They're a bad influence and I don't want to feed into it.
They should be, they should be working for their kids.
The kids shouldn't be working for their parents.
They're just fucking lazy.
Cause like the old people,
they, there's no, there's no social security here.
He's like, they're old, they can't work.
They have to eat.
Whatever the story, whatever the decision is,
they're old and it's our responsibility to help them
as the older generation.
That's what he told me.
So I got the thinking.
I'm like, hey, but what about these kids, man?
Like, what are they going to end up doing?
So they end up being like thieves, gangbangers,
gang members back home, or just, just, you know,
animals or cornered people will,
they have to survive and who's fault is it, right?
Okay, cause you can sit here
and it's easy to be a saint in paradise, right?
Like it's easy to say, oh, you know,
that guy is a piece of shit.
He's a thief.
You really don't know what happened.
I'm not saying that it justifies anything, right?
It doesn't, but those are just, that's just the reality.
So a long, so a long time ago, I'm like, man,
I'm like, when I was in high school,
like it just occurred to me, like,
what if somebody gave him a chance, right?
So, so, so I thought about like,
if I were ever to be a millionaire, what would I do?
And I said, I'd open up an orphanage.
And like, all through high school and my adult life,
you know, people would ask me like,
oh, if you win the lot tomorrow, what would you do?
I'm like, I'd probably buy a business
and then open up my orphanage.
Really?
Like, and then like, well, you know,
and so over the years, I've had this grand plan, right?
Okay.
It's in my head.
Like it was in my head.
It just, it was in the back of my head
because it was just like the amount of money
that my vision takes is just, it's astronomical, man.
It's a lot of money, even though it's back home,
but it's still a lot of money.
Cause I don't want to just make a house
where people or kids can stay off the street.
No, I want to build a big house where they sleep
or they have schooling.
I want to hire teachers, but also want to teach them
trades.
So like, if you were to give somebody a chance
to be somebody, they will be somebody.
They just have to have the proper guidance.
So it would have like, it would be like this compound
with a big, you know, the main building.
And then there's like sub buildings,
kind of like a trade school, right?
Like you want to, what do you want to do?
Well, I want to work on cars.
Okay, there's a mechanic that's going to show you
how to do the basics.
Like just steps by step by step, right?
Like woodworking and it's called sewing,
but like commercial sewing, kind of like,
like making clothes and stuff like that.
There's a word for it in Spanish.
I just don't know the exact translation.
Cooking, like profession, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like giving these kids an opportunity to better themselves
so they don't have to rely on being third bags, right?
So I always said that.
That's awesome.
And, but I always never thought,
I just never thought that I can do it, right?
So at this last, this last event,
they did something cool where you're in class
and they're like right, right your wise.
And, you know, obviously like, you know,
one of my dreams is I would like for my wife
to not work anymore.
I want her to be, I want her to work for the business.
How about like, better said, I want her to work
for the business.
I don't want her working her corporate job.
You know, I want to make sure that my nephew,
I, at this point, it's very unlikely
I'm going to have children or an heir.
So it's going to be my nephew.
I want to make sure that I leave him
not only the tools, but the actual, you know,
like I want to prepare him to potentially take over
the company if it's, when it gets to where I want it.
Because I do have a vision, right?
Like I want two, six bay shops.
That's, that's what I want to do.
And those two, six bay shops should net me the money
that it's going to take for me to achieve this dream.
Because at this last event,
I was seeing everybody's dreams and stuff.
And I remembered it.
And I'm like, man, like, I don't need a lottery, man.
My vision will get me there.
Like I will, I can make enough money to do it.
And so yeah, so that's, that's, that's what I want to do.
Like hopefully by the time I'm 50,
I should be able to have enough capital.
And it's funny because when I came back from that trip,
I call my mom.
So my dad has a farm back home.
Okay.
And we basically, we don't even like the locals tend to it.
They get to grow their crops on it
and in exchange, they take care of the lands.
They keep people out of it.
We have a small little house on that,
on that little farm house, something small.
And we have somebody that, that lives next to it
and they take care of it.
And so I call my mom and I said, mom, I go like,
I don't want my inheritance money anymore
because we, we, I have a stake of all the stuff
my dad left back home.
I said, I don't want it.
If anything, whatever fair value is for, for the farm.
I said, I want the farm.
Or if I can keep the farm,
you guys can keep the houses and split that money.
She's like, why?
You know, you don't even like watermelon.
I said, no, yeah, I hate it,
but I didn't want to tell her anything
cause I didn't know what she would say.
I just told her.
So I said, I'm like, I just, I, I want the,
I want the farm.
I think they might be worth more money in the future.
She's like, yeah, I think you're right.
I really didn't want to sell them either.
She's like, but what, what changed your mind?
And then I said, you know what, man,
I'm just going to tell her.
I said, mom, I go,
I'm going to build an orphanage.
She's like, I have the plan.
I have everything in the back of my head.
I go, I've been saying it for years.
I said, I think that's the reason
why I got back into the shop.
I think that's my, my destiny is to,
to build an orphanage.
Oh, I said, she's so quiet for a little bit.
She's like, how long have you been thinking about it?
So I, so I've always had this in the back of my head.
I just never said anything about it
because I never thought I'd be able to do it.
So it's just like kind of like why even,
why even waste the mental capacity and thinking about it.
And she, so I told her the whole story
and everything else.
And she kind of starts crying a bit.
She's like, do you remember your dad,
your grandpa's house in the city?
Like, yeah, I remember the house.
He's like, do you remember why your dad never sold it
until later in life?
I said, no, I didn't, I didn't know.
And so she's like,
you know why your dad never sold that house?
And like, well, he ended up selling it
because he's like, listen, he's like,
so what you don't know
is that your father wanted to build an old folks home,
a nursing home in that house.
He already had the nurse.
He already had talked to the doctor.
He was gonna get a remodel to fit like some medical beds.
He's like, he had this big vision for it.
He's like, but your, your, your aunts kind of killed it
for him because nobody would help him.
Like in the meantime, when he was building all this stuff,
he didn't want the house empty.
So he, so one of his, one of his,
one of my aunts friends rented the house for cheap
and promised that he would take care of it.
And he wasn't paying the rent.
And, and then my, my aunts said, it's not my problem.
You figured it out.
So my dad got, and then at the same time,
my grandpa passed away and my grandpa blamed
the organization he was trying to help
because the organization wouldn't take in my grandpa.
Oh really?
Yeah.
When he needed it and they had to send them
somewhere else and he caught a, he got sick
from their carelessness and passed away
from a, from a bad infection.
That's what I was told.
So she's like, it's funny.
It's funny how, how close, how, how,
how alike you are to your father.
She's like, he wanted to build an old folks home.
I was like, yeah.
I said, yeah.
And I got the name.
I got everything I got.
I got the idea.
Will it happen?
I mean, who knows?
Maybe, maybe not.
All right.
But that's, that's, that's the ultimate goal
right now, honestly.
That's, that's what I, like everything else is just,
it's just, I don't want to say meaningless, right?
Because no, they're important to me.
Like, you know, my wife's, you know,
my wife's happiness, not having to deal
with corporate bullshit.
My, my, my, you know, I've always wanted to have a property
like with a beach view.
Like I, that's always been like on my bucket list.
A couple of toys, you know,
some things that mean, mean to have some sentimental
value to me, but I can do without all of it.
Like, but if I, if I am able to change the lives
of some kids, then, you know, that's what I was here for.
So that's, that's, that's my, my big why.
I wasn't going to share it, but you know,
we'll see maybe 10 years from now
we have a different conversation.
Yeah. That's, that's huge, man.
Wow. That's, that's really cool.
Yeah. What a thing to, I mean,
what a thing to drive you to,
like something like that changed, I mean,
tons of people's lives.
Like that's, yeah.
Yeah. People that didn't have a chance,
people that would probably end up dead from gun violence,
dead from, you know, robbing people or whatever, man.
And it's just, it's just a chance, right?
Like at the end of the day, we all deserve a chance.
That's, that's kind of where like a lot of my,
like I, I have like mixed political opinions
about stuff, right?
I have a lot of, you know, leftist views.
I have a lot of right views.
Ultimately, man, it comes down to being a,
for me, it comes down to being a good human.
I have empathy where some people think it doesn't merit it.
I don't have sympathy for some stupidity.
Like some people believe, you know, empathy should be,
I don't, but that's just, that's just who I am.
But when it comes to children,
I'm particularly like a little sentimental
because I believe, I do believe that it starts,
it starts with a person, right?
Like I've always wanted to work with kids,
but man, I just, I've never found a good organization, man.
Like I, yeah, you know, and I,
and I don't even want to share my experience here
because, you know, it can probably get out
and I don't want it, you know,
I don't want to talk bad about people
based on my experiences,
but my view is just having a line for any organization
here in Chicago, you know, to like mentor,
to be a mentor, right?
Because all of this just, it's just having, you know,
you know, I was, I would,
I said a lot of times where like I was,
I wasn't blessed, right?
Like I was just like, oh, you know, I grew up,
like it was, it was a, it was a kind of like,
you know, a hard, hard upbringing.
I had his challenges, but again, perspective, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I, I grew up, I consider myself poor, man.
Like I, I've said it before,
like I consider myself growing up poor.
I sat next to somebody, I won't mention his name
and we were sharing stories from childhood.
And he was telling me that one of his favorite moments
from his childhood was when his mom got him,
they got, his mom didn't pay the rent,
got kicked out of the house.
They got locked, they got locked out of the house.
So they had to sleep in the stairwell.
And to keep, to keep him like occupied,
she had bought a coloring book
and they were, they were just coloring the book.
He said that was one of his fondest memories of his mom.
And I looked at him, well, fuck me, dude.
I guess I didn't grow up or, I never experienced that.
Nobody came banging down on my door,
asking me, asking my parents where the rent money was.
I never, I never had to drag my,
my parents out from a bar.
Like I never had to do any of that.
Like, like I never slept in a car when I was a child.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, my dad, you know, he never gave me,
Tommy, anything, right?
Materialistic, like, you know,
all my, all my friends would make fun of me
for not having nice clothes or, or, or Jordans or,
or just stuff like materialistic shit.
My dad never bought himself a new car.
But thinking back on it, my dad, my dad had a house.
Like we only spent like a couple of years in an apartment
because my dad made a dumb decision to sell his house
and didn't want to buy another one.
So we were in an apartment.
But then as soon as, as soon as he felt better,
he bought a house.
Like it was always us.
Now nobody ever came knocking on the door.
I never opened the refrigerator and said,
Mom, there's no food.
I just, you know, you know, programming, right?
Marketing, mass marketing made me feel poor.
If I'm being honest with you.
Yep, yep.
But no, I had a very blessed life, man.
I had a, I had a dad, it wasn't perfect,
but you know, he instilled some of his good values
in me, some of his bad ones.
I'm working on those too.
But again, man, perspective is beautiful, man.
We just, you know, my hopes for this new year
is that a lot of our listeners can just ground themselves
in a little bit of gratitude, man.
You know, tough times come,
but better times come ahead.
Like that month and a half that I spent,
you know, wrenching by myself was grueling, man.
Dude, my feet were hurting every day.
I was not used to wrenching like that anymore.
We still had a record breaking month by myself,
like wrenching, diagnosing, like even making tickets,
like learning my process and procedures.
And I was like, dude, every fucking time
things start going good for me, man,
shit happens, my guy just up and left me.
He up and quit, told me why it was just some,
I don't know, it doesn't matter.
He up and he left, no warning, no nothing.
And now I got a guy who was just as good for my culture
and he's twice as fast.
Nice.
So every hard thing that you go through has a purpose
if you let yourself grow from it.
And I sit there and be pissed off about the situation
and blame yourself, blame God, blame the world.
No, it's just, this is what you need.
Yep, the struggles are just gonna make you better.
I mean, if it doesn't kill you,
there's a good chance you can improve from it
and gain something out of it.
And I mean, that's my thought, doing the business thing
and obviously doing what we're doing
and trying to run a business, any business,
it's just a constant shit storm.
And some days are much worse than others.
And it's like, I just accepted the fact
that that's gonna be a portion of my time doing this
is just an absurd amount of problems,
just avalanching down on top of me.
And that's what it is,
but there's gonna be another side to it.
And if I can push through it,
I'm gonna be so much better and so much more prepared.
And then also on the other side of it,
like you say in perspective, the little stuff in life
that maybe was a big deal
had I not been through all that other stuff,
it's not a big deal.
Like we've been through so much more
that, hey, the rear window on one of the vans
shattered yesterday, I don't know if a rocket
or what happened, but it's like, no, well, not a big deal.
Like, we'll figure it out.
Stuff like that happens.
I'm just like, it's really not that big of a deal
because there's so much more that it could be going wrong
but there's a time and a place
where that would have like just ruined my day though.
Like, oh shit, we gotta get this window for this van.
And it's the same, right?
Like I talked to these shop owners
and I've asked them the same question
to see if I get a different answer.
And I ask them, A, does this get easier?
Because this is hard.
Like this is one of the most,
the hardest things I've ever had to do
is restructure a business, retrain my mind
on how business is supposed to run.
The whole nine dude, like it's literally probably
would have been easier for me to blow this whole bitch up
and start a brand new business.
But I refuse to because of the name,
like the name has to carry.
And they all said the sack, same thing, no.
It doesn't get easier, you get stronger.
Like when you go to the gym,
it doesn't get any easier to wake up at 4 a.m.
to go to the gym.
You're just able to lift up more weights
the more you go.
And like to your point, right?
Like a $200 glass, now you're like nothing, right?
Well, the shop that I visited,
a technician totaled two vehicles in one week.
He left the hose loose on a Rover engine
and smoke the engine, the customer smoked the engine.
Two days later, he left the wheel loose
on a somewhat new Kia Sorento.
The tire flew off, got wedged into the quarter panel.
Our rear quarter, total, like two cars total.
And I'm like, you guys all right?
I'm like, dude, I probably sit there and cry
and they're like, man, man, okay, it's, okay.
Like, honestly, he's like, it's not that we don't care.
But if we had to write a check for those,
for those vehicles right now, we can write a check.
But that's what processes and procedures,
that's what's growing, that's what cash flow,
that's why, you know, having the proper insurance,
talking to people, getting coverage.
Like this all prepares you.
They were like five years ago,
I probably would have wanted to close the business now.
So it's the same, like you're gonna get better,
you're still gonna have problems,
what you perceive as big problems today,
but tomorrow they just might not,
they might not even affect you.
Yeah, and it's gonna be hard at every level,
just in a different way.
Like it's really hard staying by yourself
and not growing, and it's really hard growing
and having a team, it's just hard in different ways.
So like, pick which hard gives you the best opportunity
to shoot for whatever your why is,
or to get to where your goals are.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
The mobile stuff for me, I realized that for me,
what I didn't like about it was, well, two-fold, right?
Number one, I don't like being involved in something
that somebody else can influence,
i.e. remote programming has kind of taken a dent
in mobile programming, which is, to be frank,
the most profitable part of about being mobile next to eight,
well, it's eight us calibrations
if you have the right body shops, it's programming,
use module solutions in that order,
like use module solutions and then diagnostics
is like pretty much dead last.
And I don't like the fact that I have to compete
with some companies that don't name, which is fine,
like I had business as business,
but I don't think I have it in me to compete.
I can't, like the traffic won't allow me,
scaling and then the subscriptions and like,
no, it's just, it's gotten out of hand, man.
It's just, it's very expensive to program now.
And then the dyag, like dude,
I just, mobile diagnostics was just not for me.
I mean, maybe if I did it again, possibly,
but the entire amount of shops, man,
like the, no, I just, it wasn't for me, man.
You know, and then relying on that.
Yeah, it's so difficult, man.
Like there's so many factors you're dealing with,
the shops, the technicians,
the pre-Madonna A-level guys who are mad
that they called them out to fix their shit.
The shop owners who don't value what you're doing
for them, don't know how to sell dyag.
Them giving your cut, your numbers to the customers,
like dude, it was just so much, you know,
they don't, you had to,
I couldn't believe that I had to specify to a shop
why I wanted him to install an OE part
and not this Otto's own Durilas crap, right?
Like just know, like if I have to explain this to you,
I would, and I told this to a shop owner,
I do it, the more I explain this to you,
the more I realize I should go back to my shop
and explain it to somebody who's gonna pay me the full job,
where I can make money off the parts
because this is ridiculous.
Like I should not have this conversation with you.
I'm telling you what you need.
If you don't believe me, then don't, but don't call me.
Like, dude, I don't know what to tell you.
And that just seemed to be like the majority
of my business was all that.
Like just combating people every day
and telling them, you know, what they need to do
and blah, blah, blah, and more power to you do.
But I think repair for me,
I think it was a great decision.
Honestly, the tools that I have now,
I think I'm glad that I reopened it.
And again, it's been extremely difficult,
but you know, for you, that's the hard decision
that you need to make.
Cause the other thing too,
that I didn't like about Mobile Man,
like even me, dude, like I don't think
that I'm a great Diag guy, man.
But how many Diag guys are great Diag guys
that can diagnose in non-comfortable environments?
Dude, I had to diagnose cars outside
cause I drove an hour and they weren't ready for me.
So I either wait or come back and I'm like, dude,
I just rather just knock this out
in this dirty ass parking lot.
Yep.
No, I had to think about a lot and still do
when it was just me and what I would be willing to do.
And then I really have to think like,
am I gonna ask my employee to do the same thing?
I'm like, no, I can't have them out
in the like weather we have right now
diagnosing a car outside.
And I don't want them, you know,
crawling under things or using hoists
that it's questionable
if it's gonna keep the car in the air.
Dude, I had a guy who used to stick a screwdriver
for the lock.
Like, I'm like, dude, I'm not standing
underneath this shit.
Like, what's wrong with you guys?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Diage is the toughest part about that.
I mean, the mobile thing has its own challenges
and especially in the winter time,
driving and all that stuff.
But man, the diagnostic stuff,
even if it wasn't for like all the people,
stuff that you mentioned,
like that all is legit and it makes it difficult.
But even if it wasn't for that,
the cars are freaking just a battle day after day.
And again, going back to what we were saying,
like I feel like my skillset has,
and my experience has gotten so big
because of all the stuff I've done
for the number of years that I've done it.
But at the same time, man, it just never ends.
Like there's always something new.
Like you're never gonna figure out all of it.
You're never gonna see all of it.
It's always gonna be another car
that's just a two day pain in the ass,
just waiting for you.
And that's the tough part is like,
how can I, if I keep growing this,
like how do I grow the diagnostic side of it?
I just, I don't know that, I don't know there's a path.
You'd have to, here's my thought,
is you'd have to charge almost an absurd amount of money
to do so so that you could pay a person
a very healthy wage that would be able to be willing to
and be able to do it at a high level
and be willing to do it mobile.
So it's like, boy, is that, is that even realistic?
Or do you just go after the stuff
that is much more realistic?
It's not, I mean, respectfully, man,
it just really isn't a guy like that
can go work comfortably at a shop for like 120, $130.
So let's just say you match that.
Or start their own business or whatever.
Let's just say for all intents and purposes, right?
Like you offer a guy 130K insurance,
load it, he's, you're probably gonna be 185 loaded.
So you divide that by 52 weeks, divide that by every day.
Like, bro, that's, that's a lot of money.
And that's what I thought about.
Cause I'm like, to get the person you need for that,
yeah, you're gonna have to pay him something like that.
The way I think about it is like,
what would somebody have to pay me
to go out and do it as an employee?
Okay, well, that's the amount of money
you're gonna have to pay somebody to come.
Basically do, if I want to get myself replaced, right?
Then that's what I would have to pay somebody.
How many work weeks are there?
50, 52?
Yeah, 52.
But that he's costing you 700 bucks a day, right?
But then once you, once you toss in his,
his drive time, once you toss in the vehicle he's in.
Yeah, insurance and insurance and phone and,
and uniforms and training and,
A grand a day.
And how much are you charging for Diags right now?
We're anywhere between 250 and 400.
And so like, they all have to be like 400.
They would have to be 400 and you need to do,
you need to do, if you did three $400 Diags a day,
you wouldn't even be breaking even
because you're not getting the $130,000 dollars.
You'd make more money dumping it
that dumping 180, I'm sorry.
You'd make more money dumping 180K in the money market
than what he'd make you.
Right?
Yeah, it's just, it's extremely challenging, man.
It's extremely challenging.
Yeah, it's difficult for sure, man.
Like I don't know if that's something you can scale,
but the problem is eventually,
for me, my biggest takeaway was that I got tired
of going on vacation and not making money.
It costed me money to go on vacation.
Yeah, that's why having a team is so huge.
That got, that got, that got, that's old dude.
Like I have to hustle.
I had to tell all these people,
hey, I'm leaving for two weeks,
hustle or even like I'd have my nephew
or somebody fill in like for some mobile stuff.
So I'm on vacation and I'm programming shit at 3 a.m.
Cause we're also gonna do it
and I got bills to pay still.
So it's just like, that's the part that I'm like,
you know what, man, this is my only way.
No, I go back a couple of years.
I had to leave the beach that I was on
to go back to the Airbnb to hop on a laptop
and program something fucking stupid.
But so we got a team now and September,
I was gone two weeks in September
and not that it was perfect by any means.
We're, you know, the guys were overloaded,
but they handled it like I could leave.
The show kept running.
Things, the money kept flowing in
and we actually didn't even have that bad of a month.
That's where it's so worth it to go through the,
again, same thing, hardship of building a team.
There's a gazillion other things that come along
with how hard that's gonna fucking be.
And I still, I think it's worth it.
That's the path I have seen for me
to be where I want in 10 years.
I gotta have a team and I gotta,
I don't know what the cap is.
I don't know where it's gonna end up,
but I want a decent-sized team
that can run the show without me.
Yeah, that's critical, man.
If you're not overseeing your business,
you just created a job for yourself.
Yep, yep.
So that's where my, and aside from the ego stuff
for asking somebody, you're better off getting a job.
And right now, honestly, it's a great time to get a job.
There's a lot of good shops looking for good workers.
And I strongly feel that 26
is gonna be a good year for repair.
I really do.
The way that the industry is going,
the fact that all these COVID cars
are coming out of warranty,
the fact that their big piles of crap
and all these people are underwater on these loans,
they're not gonna be able to get another car.
There's just no way.
Mm-hmm.
You know, I had a poor lady with a,
I think I don't know if I told you this story or not.
If I'm repeating myself, forgive me,
but basically sunk 5K into a Buick,
one of those Korean Buick SUVs.
I forgot what it is.
Oh, the Encore or whatever.
Yeah, one of those E's, whatever.
The 1.5 liter turbo dude.
Poor lady, and she's like,
do you think I need anything else?
I'm just like, man, I right now know,
but I don't wanna tell her that you're driving
this flaming pile of shit.
But do it like, one week it was her thermostat,
one week it was her radiator.
You know, like, no, I'm sorry.
No, we did a thermostat housing one
and then the next time it was the radiator went out
and we decided to replace the other thermostat housing
on the other side.
Two weeks later, the water pump goes out
and then lastly, the oil cooler gasket starts puking,
like puking and we gotta remove the turbo.
We remove the turbo, the turbo's cracked.
Like, yeah, turbo, like, yeah, this poor lady,
she's like, oh my God, she's like,
I still owe money on this car
and I don't have a choice, I gotta fix it.
Dude, it breaks my heart, man.
Yeah.
But I didn't buy it, I didn't build it,
I didn't break it, like,
but that's the reality for a lot of the consumers.
So my job is to provide them
for what a good quality repair and get them,
get them back to work, I guess,
so they can pay off this car.
He, he, he, he.
I'm sorry, but you know, it's just the truth.
And so like, I think I've been seeing a lot of people
spending big money on their vehicles
because they just, they either don't want a note
or they can't get a note.
So that means the next year or so should be good for us.
No, sure, it's broken cars.
Yeah, 21 Silver out of the day
and they were just got done doing an engine build,
going through the engine on it
and then it had a ton of harness electrical problems
on top of it, unrelated, and it's just like, wow,
six, four years old in a pile of turds.
Yeah, all these cars built after COVID, dude,
they're, they're gonna keep us busy for a while.
Yeah.
Imagine that, paying $80,000 for a piece of shit.
That's wild to me, man.
Oh, I'd be so pissed.
I'd be so pissed.
I, I, it's, it just baffles me.
What do you daily drive?
Do you have, are you just driving
to work vans everywhere?
So I was doing that.
I have an old Ram, which my living situation
changed a little bit.
So I'm driving that back and forth to the shop now.
Did you move houses?
But it's good.
Yeah, I moved in with my girlfriend.
You sold your house?
No, I, I spent the last like month and a half
getting ready to rent.
I got a renter coming on the first.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, yeah, I've never done that before.
So that's another interesting thing
I've been learning all about.
But honestly, another thing there's just a huge demand
for is homes in that price range.
I was flabbergasted by the people that like hit me up
as soon as that thing went up on the market to rent.
I had a ton of showings immediately first week
and then just, I had my, you know, pick from,
I don't know, there's probably 10 different people
that were messaging me and coming to see it and stuff.
And so I found a real nice young couple
that's just looking to get a start.
Signed 12 month lease and let's go.
Yeah, we definitely are either going to buy
a nice vacation home, hopefully in the next few years
or we'll hold on that and buy a nicer house
in a nicer area here in Chicago that we really like.
But I told the wife, our fucking, our mortgage is so cheap.
We bought during the recession.
Oh, okay.
So yeah, this house was, yeah, no, this is super cheap.
That's why I didn't want to sell my place
because I got like 3% interest on it.
Yeah, same.
Yeah, yeah, same.
I don't want to get rid of that.
So we can make a ton of money if we rented it
because they just, I don't know if you remember
when you were coming over here,
I don't know, they were building stuff
across the street from me.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, I don't recall what was around there.
Yeah, so across the main street,
they put up townhomes and three, two
and one bedroom apartments.
A one bedroom apartment is $2,000.
Wow.
And it goes up, but three bedroom is like three grand
and so forth and so forth.
The townhomes or three bedroom townhomes, $4,500.
So I'm like, that's all in the life, man.
There's no way that we won't get $3,500 for this house.
It has a little driveway, three bedrooms.
It's great for a young couple.
Yeah, that is the wild part,
is that the amount that these people are paying me
is quite a bit more than what my mortgage cost me
amongst the torrent and I'm just like.
Yeah, and the cool thing is
you can do like one or two things, right?
But did you form a company for this?
No.
Okay, I'm gonna advise you to form a company.
Okay.
Because for starters, you have a business.
So that's a tangible asset of yours.
So in case anything happens vice versa, you're covered.
So I would strongly suggest you to start a company
and you can do one or two things.
You can either take that profit, right?
Take that revenue to pay off your house
or you can put it in a market account and keep it there
and draw money out whenever you need a repair
or stuff like that.
And then if you really enjoy doing this,
buy another property and rent it.
Yeah, I've listened to quite a bit of people
that that's their ventures.
Yeah, they use one to get into the next
and get to the next.
This is my trial run to see how it goes.
Do I hate this?
I'm saying that is, yeah, if this is just trial, it's fine
but just remember you want to lower your tax burden
because right now all of this profit
is gonna go straight to your own personals.
Yep, yep, for sure.
So you don't want that.
Yeah, and it changes the tax
because it's not homestead anymore.
There's a couple other things.
I'm getting all that sorted out right now.
Yeah, but I strongly suggest start a company
and have that handle that.
And that way that keeps that separate from your,
because what if, God forbid, one of your guys
gets into a bad wreck and your insurance cops out,
they're gonna go after everything.
At least there, you still keep that.
Sure, sure.
Yeah, no, that's legit advice.
I'll look into that.
That's awesome, man, congrats.
Yeah, thanks.
We moved to her place, it was a lot bigger.
My house is just too small,
she's got a lot of stuff in a big house,
so we're down here and it's not the nicest area.
Are you in, you're still close to by where you,
are you close to my shop?
I'm closer to my shop.
I'm a little south of there though,
we're like north of the city of Twin Cities.
Kind of bad area around there.
Yeah, it's, it's not great.
Some like a couple of months ago,
somebody was shot like down the block from here
and there's a lot of that goes on.
So we don't go outside and walk around at night.
But you're around brown people then.
It's just all kinds of different colors down there.
You can say it, man, don't be scared.
I'll say it all day long.
My daddy used to say,
my dad used to say,
Hispanic's always ruin the fucking neighborhoods.
Oh man, my old man was racist as shit, man.
There's shady people of every race down here.
So.
We moved in, we used to live up north
where all the Guatemalans were.
And my dad was like, fuck these Guatemalans,
I'm gonna go live in a nicer.
So we moved into an area called Belmont, Kraygan,
which was like 90% Polish.
But it was wild because it was like the nice spot
to buy houses because they were cheap.
Like my dad bought his first house for like 30 grand.
And it was a Chicago bungalow, like dope little house,
but like it was nothing but like old Polish people.
But then like slowly every couple of months,
there was another Hispanic and another Hispanic.
And then this is the time where Chicago had a lot
of white races gangs that were trying to keep
like the Hispanics out of their neighborhoods.
They used to throw shit at us all the time
and like make fun of us or whatever,
like the older gang, the white gang bangers and shit.
And like slowly but surely like next thing you know, bro,
boom, everybody on the neighborhood was Hispanic
and it went to shit.
So my dad, my dad, like I said,
my dad got sick when I was younger,
when I started working at the shop.
And so he sold the house because he's like,
dude, I'm dying, I'm dying in Guatemala.
I'm moving to Guatemala.
I don't know what the hell happened
that he changed his mind after he sold the damn house.
So we ended up renting an apartment a block away
further into the, to the shit, like the area started
kind of getting shittier and shittier and shittier.
My dad bought into something decent.
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nicer.
So we moved the block into the shittier neighborhood.
And then we were there for a couple of years.
My dad's like, fuck this.
He found the house for a hundred grand,
like seven blocks due west from, from where I grew up.
And that was like also all Polish people,
like they hadn't, we hadn't moved to that area, right?
We were like the first ones on the block.
And then next thing you know, man, like now it's a,
it's a fucking war zone, man.
Nothing but his, like all the Hispanic gangs
from the South side that got gentrified,
they all moved into that neighborhood.
My mom's trying to get out.
So my dad was right.
Sorry, not sorry.
Now we're gonna hang here for a little while.
Oh yeah.
And then we're looking for something a little nicer,
but we're also not in a rush to wait for a good deal
and what's going to work right.
Supposedly the interest rates might come down next year.
So.
Yeah.
Well, and we also haven't lived together before.
So this is also, I got a 12 month trial run here.
See how this goes before we go any further.
They used to being wrong again.
Oh, I was married for six years.
I know how that goes.
Yeah, but you got free afterwards.
So that's it.
That comes back quick.
Yeah.
Being able to leave the toilet seat up,
putting your clothes in a little pile somewhere
and not having to disappear or somebody talk shit.
The biggest issue so far is just the fact
that I get up so early and she is,
she's not a super early riser.
So I'm like five a.m.
That's not even that early.
Yeah.
And she's like, what are you talking about?
She doesn't get up to like seven or whatever.
So we're working through that,
but otherwise it's been pretty good.
She's going to make you sleep with a dog.
If I already do.
Does she have a dog too?
No, just mine.
Ah, okay, nice.
We were talking about getting a second one,
but that's how this happened to it.
Yeah.
That's awesome, man.
I hope it turns out good for you, my friend.
Oh yeah.
I think it will.
I think it will.
I'm also.
All good stuff.
I'm also grateful for you not punking out
and keeping this podcast rolling.
I know these last few months.
Yeah, it's been a fucking year.
I've been here.
I haven't been here.
I can't believe it.
A year or so I almost died too.
I am grateful for this.
I'm grateful for the opportunity.
I'm hoping to have a little bit more free time.
We can have some ideas for the next year.
Hopefully we can keep this going.
I get a lot of, I've gotten work from this podcast.
Believe you, believe you not.
I had a couple of guys bring cars.
I had a guy trailer a car from me for like three hours away
because he hears our podcast.
He actually works in,
is Mr. Brown, if you can hear me, thanks.
But he trailered a vehicle to me, man.
Cause he had a shop who couldn't get a BCM for his clean.
I'm talking about clean vehicle across dude with a 3.8.
I'm like, I was like, yeah.
I was like, yo, this thing is nice.
At first when Josh told me somebody's bringing me
a 2006 lacrosse, I was like, what for what?
I'm like, this isn't the scrap yard.
Like, what the hell's it doing here?
And then I seen this thing.
I was like, yo, this thing was mint.
I guess the shop couldn't procure a BCM
and you know, he brought it to the right place.
I was able to knock it out for him.
Nice.
So yeah, so.
Yeah, those ones will not work with TLC,
those used ones.
Negatory.
So yeah, so yeah, so it's been a great blessing, man.
I appreciate you and our friendship from all these years.
Oh, same here, man.
I appreciate you a lot coming on here
and helping me out.
Cause yeah, it was,
I don't think it was gonna come back otherwise.
Yeah, we helped too much, man.
I know for me, I'm gonna do my best
to come up with some more ideas for next year.
But yeah, you know, the shop had to come first,
unfortunately, so it's the last few months
I've been kind of like keeping to myself,
but my new guy is promising, man.
I think things are tights, the tights turning for me,
for sure.
Great to hear.
Love it.
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About this episode
Tomi Oliva shares a candid reflection on his journey as a shop owner, highlighting the challenges of diagnostics, managing a growing team, and navigating customer and warranty issues. He discusses the importance of perspective, gratitude, and ego management in business and life. Tomi also reveals his deeper motivation: a dream to build an orphanage to help disadvantaged kids, inspired by his upbringing and family history. The conversation touches on the realities of automotive repair, the struggles of scaling a business, and the personal growth required to lead effectively.