340: Skill Agility

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Hey, what's going on? Automotive World, welcome to another episode of the Automotive

Diagnostic Podcast. My name is Sean Tipping and I will be your host once again for this week's

episode. Just me this week, I'm going to talk to you about what is on my mind. I was thinking about,

you know, well, as I do every week when I make the podcast of like, what was the interesting car?

What was the interesting obstacle that we overcame this last week? How was I challenged in

diagnostics? All that stuff that you normally hear on the show. And of course, every week,

we learn something every day. I learn something on cars. But there's another thing that is

consistently on my mind lately. And that's kind of what the show has been about for me as a whole,

is, you know, getting people on the show that I'm interested in hearing about and then talking

about topics that I am interested in. And that's what I'm doing today is like the thing that I

can't stop thinking about and that I want to share with the listening audience. And, you know,

I titled the episode as, you know, skill mobility or skill agility. And that's where I'm going to

start with this. But really, it's the advancements that have been coming around in the last couple

months with agentic AI systems and what's capable right now and what it's going to look like in the

future. But I want to talk directly to the audience of this show, right? Technicians, shop owners,

mobile guys and gals that are doing this stuff every day that you can be at the forefront of

this stuff. And I think the listeners of this show, the people who are interested enough

to listen to me yammer on about intricate vehicle diagnostics and programming and stuff like that

for hours on end, you are the exact kind of person who is in a prime position, not only to be agile

in your skill development and take on the new stuff and be ahead of the trend, but also to benefit

from the things that are coming down the pipeline. So I want to talk about it,

my experience and my thoughts on the future, which I don't know, I think it's going to be crazy.

Maybe I'm an optimist, maybe I'm a dreamer, I don't know, but the rate at which things are

accelerating right now, and I think that is really the key piece of it that a lot of people don't

yet quite grasp, is it's not what is capable or present right now with the technology that's out

there, but the rate at which it is accelerating and will continue to accelerate. And it's almost

scary if you really extrapolate out and probably not even that far, things are going to change

so much faster than we're even capable of perceiving in my personal opinion. I could be totally

wrong, I don't know yet, but what I can speak to is what's going on right now and how it has

progressed just in the last few months. So if you pay attention at all to AI and the current

tools out there, and I can tell you talking to people in my life, a lot of people really don't.

Most people are like, yeah, I've used chat gpt to help, you know, be build a grocery list or find,

you know, the restaurants around me that are good to go visit. And yeah, it's great for stuff like

that. But again, things are advancing so quickly. And the tools that are available to anyone right

now have dramatically shifted in the last few months. And I actually want to get Fonzal back on

the show to talk some more details about this. So expect an episode in the near future where we

dive into this with more than just, you know, Sean's optimistic viewpoint of this. But again,

this is what is on my mind. So I couldn't pick a car out from the last couple of weeks that was,

you know, more relevant or important for me to talk about on the show than this stuff,

because it's the center of what I'm doing right now. So what has really developed and shifted

that is available to the general public and people like myself is the agentic AI systems

that you can now implement. And if you haven't been, you know, following along with the advancement

of the tools, the really the shifting point was this program that was developed by an

independent person called Open Claw. And this is a system that you run locally on a laptop or

people are doing it on Mac minis. And it runs, it's powered by Claude, the company is called

Anthropic. And it's, you know, you could think of it as a similar system to chat sheet BT,

it's better in my opinion, just from my experience using both. But it uses that as the engine behind

it. But it allows you to set up agents, which I mean, you've probably seen the matrix. So it's not

quite like that. But it's a, it's a bot, it's a AI system, if you will, it's hard to exactly define

what it is. But it is something that you can interact with that can actually do things for you.

Now, what do you mean by do things? That's a very open ended question with this system, the Open Claw,

because it is really just limited by what can be done on a computer, your imagination and your

tolerance for risk. And by that, I mean, what are you going to allow it to do or give it access

to do? Because there's a huge, crazy security risk with this current version. But this is

kind of taking the technical world by storm, because of what it is capable of. And there's,

if you look out there, there's stories and examples of where things can go terribly wrong.

If you give it financial information and logins and stuff, things can go very,

very badly for a number of different reasons. And I guess maybe I should preface everything

with what I'm saying right now is that look into this at your own risk and understand

what the potential risks are if you're going to allow something like this to

act on your behalf or do things for you. So take it with some caution going into it,

read up on the security risks if you're going to look into it. But I'm not so focused on what is

right now, what is today, if February 22nd, 2026, because as I've told a lot of people along the

way, and again, the rate of acceleration comes into play here, is that the stuff that we're

using today and looking at today is the worst it will ever be, right? It is only going to get

better. And what I mean by that in reference to the open cloth thing is that there's going to be,

and there is already companies that have seen what the capabilities are of something like this,

and are developing methods that can be done much more securely and safely,

that could be integrated at an enterprise level, so a big corporate structure could

use something like this. And the guy who developed this, I don't know his name,

but he got hired by OpenAI within a few weeks of putting this thing out into the world. But

where this changes things is, this, you know, takes your LLM that you interact with as an AI system,

and it allows it to perform tasks autonomously. Now, it's going to interact with you and you

tell it what you want it to do and what you don't want it to do and how you want to do it. And

you're going to have to put some effort into training it to do it the right way. It's kind

of like training an employee, just in my personal opinion. But if you do that and you set it up,

it can run tasks independently. And this to me has completely changed the capabilities of

just interacting with an LLM and then an agent who can do things on a schedule or independently

without me. Now, obviously, like I said, a lot of risk, right? What if it does the wrong thing?

What if it shares the wrong information? The systems you're giving it access to could have

sensitive information? Yes, that's all 100% true. And I'm not so focused on that right now. I'm

being very cautious as I experiment with my own stuff. But what I see is the future of this

five, 10 years down the road, I mean, even sooner, but what it's going to look like and what it's

going to mean for, I mean, everybody, but obviously I'm focused on, you know, my business and people

within the automotive space. But when we make that shift away from, hey, I input something

into chat GPT, and then it gives me an output, which has a ton, almost endless possibilities

of what you can do with that. And it has its own impressive use cases. I've talked about them on

the show and ways that it's saved me an enormous amount of time at specific tasks. But that is

the key and unlocks all kinds of new possibilities for someone who is running a business or even

just any technician in the automotive space, again, expands way out beyond the automotive world.

It's probably going to touch most careers. But of course, I'm focused in on the blue collar world

because that's what I do, right? I fix cars. And I am viewing this as a tool of how can I have it

help me both fix the cars and in my case run my business. So some of you listening may run your

own business, maybe you're a technician in a shop, either way, there's ways to utilize this. And

this is my thought process as this shifts to something that can do things for you on a

scheduled basis or autonomously. It is allowing you to perform tasks that would otherwise be taking

away from your ability to do the core thing that you do that makes money. And I can look at this

as a business owner very clearly that me right now, I mean, granted, I am kind of making the shift

to trying to run the business, not be in the business. But the fact of the matter is I am

still in the business. And personally, I still love the actual fixing of the car. It's my passion.

Probably never stop completely. But anyways, there are things that I can do

that are core to the business and actually bring in, you know, money directly. And if you look at

that from the technician standpoint, that is diagnosing cars, that are programming modules,

that is calibrating ADAS systems and then cutting in programming keys, right? If I'm doing that,

I'm bringing money into the business. But the things take me away from that, again,

especially as a business owner. And I guess this episode isn't exactly about how you shift from

one to another or balance one another. That's a whole other conversation. But I do a lot of

other things that aren't, I should say, I do a surprisingly large amount of things that aren't

the core thing that makes the business money. Even if you just looked at running the business

and the things that really move the business forward, I still spend a lot of time on things

that take me away from that, right? And, you know, there's a lot of material out there that

tells you as a business owner to focus on the biggest constraint. And that is the main thing

that you should be focused on of your business, right? Your business isn't growing because of

one main thing at any given point, right? Are you supply constrained? Are you demand constrained?

Okay, you know, you should work on getting more people or you should work on marketing or, right,

there's a hundred different things that can be going on there. But like, you should have a focus

and this is really the thing that's moving the needle, right? And let's say you're a technician,

right? That thing is getting the car fixed. But you probably have to do a lot of other things

that don't directly fix the car. Okay, as a technician, these are things like research

for a particular job. This and that's not even just the job. That's research on tooling, research

on techniques, diagnostic methods, known problems of a vehicle. Also, you know, invoice documentation

or documenting what you actually do for future reference. And those things take a lot of time,

especially if you're doing them manually. And I've talked about how you can use systems,

like even just using a project within chat GBT to enter the information vocally, like talk to it,

and then it will spit out a formatted output that you can put into an invoice or put into whatever

file structure you have that saves information on what you're doing for future reference.

But we're now getting to the point, like I mentioned, where it's not just an input output thing,

that it's a you set it up with one of these agent tools. And like I said, open clause, the one that's

out there right now. And if you're, you know, reading about this stuff, it's the one that's

front and center, but there will be more. There's already a Claude co-work, which is a version of

Claude you download on your desktop, and it can work within your files. And it can do some stuff,

you know, autonomously, which I'm just experimenting with right now. But that's

that's only going to grow in popularity and capability and security too. That's the other thing

where it is going to be more and more capable to perform the tasks that eat up your time and eat

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The link is in the show notes. Going back to the title episode where you know, it's skill

agility. I really think it is important to look at the current tools that are available,

the new stuff that's out there, where it's going, what's happening with technology like this,

and asking yourself, you know, where can I utilize this stuff? Or I mean, I guess first,

do I really understand what this stuff is, how to use it? Should I take some time to actually

figure it out to play with it to experiment to learn it? And that's the agility portion of this.

And again, I think listeners of the show, if you've made it this far into hundreds and hundreds of

episodes of me blabbing on about stuff, you are the exact person who is primed to learn this stuff

as it comes out to be on, you know, the tip of the spear, the cutting edge, and figure this stuff

out before everybody else does, right? And the reason I say that is because we have to do that

as the top of the game, diagnosticians, programmers, ADOS techs, you know, security

professionals out in the automotive world, especially if you're doing this stuff, you know,

independent, not to take anything away from the dealers, but you know, guys that are out there

doing this independent independently and have been for a while, you have to be able to learn

new stuff all the time, every single day. Okay, there's a new software out. Okay, there's a new

platform for programming. There's new tools, right? There's new cars. We're always, always,

always, always learning the new thing that comes out. And right now, this is the new thing,

is this agentic work and what it's capable of. And I haven't even fully implemented all of the

possibilities that this can help me with both, you know, with fixing cars and with running my

business. But I'm starting, I'm experimenting. And that's the key is like, figure this stuff out.

Unfortunately, it comes very, very fast. And tomorrow is different than it was today. But

that's why I feel it's so important to like, okay, let me dedicate some time to try to learn

these tools. But again, the focus is specifically on the agentic work that is coming into play

right now. And that it is capable of running tasks for you that allow you to then take your time to

do what you do best, right, whatever that is, the thing that really moves the needle for you,

your business, your job, whatever it might be. And heck, maybe it's even outside of your job,

and you just want to focus more on your family. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. You can take the

time that you were spending on a specific task that is repetitive, that you could instruct someone

or something to do. And then you move that into, you know, an agent that's capable of doing this

stuff. And you know, there's a lot of stuff out there of like, hey, the more and more use AI,

the dumber you get turns off your brain. And hey, there's a reason to believe that if everything

that you want an answer to, you just immediately go to AI and you don't try to actually learn anything

yourself. Yeah, you're going to atrophy something here. But in my opinion, it's, I can at least

decide, you know, which skill set I want to atrophy, or what repetitive thing like entering

something into a spreadsheet that doesn't really improve me or my life or skill that I really

feel like I need to have. If I had to go back to doing it manually, okay, maybe I figure it out.

But that I don't necessarily need to do these things. They're not important to me. Again,

they don't move the needle. And then I can put that time that I've given, you know, to this

particular tool into something else and developing a skill set that actually does really mean

something to me. It can help you learn to if you do it in the correct way, right? You can ask along

the way of like, hey, you know, how is this working? How are you doing this stuff? And what I mean by

that is like, for instance, with these tools, I've made some software. Now, guys, listen,

I am not the person who would be able to do that all on my own, at least not right now. I would

have to spend, I don't know, months, years, like, learning and researching and practicing in order

to code software. And maybe I could figure it out over a certain period of time. But that's

exactly it. It's like, I don't have the time to do that. So I've never done it. But with these tools,

I can build software. I can, well, I shouldn't say I, the tool is building the software based off

of what I'm looking for it as it's five coding, if you haven't heard the term is like, Hey,

here's what I want. Can you make it? Oh, can we make this a little different? And there's still

work behind it. You still have to tell it what you want. But again, these tools are there and you

can build something that is specifically suited for you, your business, what you do. And it doesn't

cost the, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars that it would for like, a software

development company to make something in the past. And that's where, man, I get so excited when I see

like, Oh, I just with the help of the AI systems built a software that does something specific

for my business, that now, I mean, just the fact that I made it was cool, but that it now saves

me time. Like I don't have to go in and manually do this thing every single day. And the work is

front loaded because you do have to work with it, develop it, train it. It's like training an employee,

like I mentioned, where it's some back and forth until you get things right and working out the

bugs. But then once you get something usable, and it is has the potential to save you all kinds of

time. And again, you know, way what you're giving up and really think about it, you know, is this

task that I am trying to get it to accomplish something a skill that I actually value? Or is

it just something that I have to do? Is it a, you know, a means to an end? And this is this is

something that I've thought about as I've used these tools, and I found the best way to interact

with them, which by the way is talking to these AI systems. They're the voice transcription on most

of these tools is excellent, meaning that you don't have to type on your phone, you don't have to

type on your computer unless you want to. And I was thinking about that. I'm like, well, you know,

my, my typing and my spelling are not going to improve. And they're probably going to get worse

if I just get used to talking to this thing. Now, I think it's way more efficient, right? I can get

across my thoughts and I'm not the fastest typer in the world. So my ability to talk to these tools

and then have it understand what I'm saying is lights out the best way to go. But yeah, I'm not

going to get any better at typing. I wasn't the best to begin with, right? That's a skill that is

definitely going to atrophy. And I think of a scene from a movie and actually a lot of the stuff that

has been coming along recently really makes me think about this. Now,

I'm a giant nerd. And yeah, I can, I can hear Tommy right now making fun of me. But

Star Trek movies back in the 80s and the early 90s, there was one of the movies where this is the

original cast, you know, William Shantner and Leonard Nimoy and them and they traveled back

in time in the movie, right? So they go to 1985 and computers are just beginning to be a thing there.

And the engineer from the enterprise is working with a local business owner and he kind of shows

him to a computer, you know, with a keyboard and a mouse and stuff. And if you've watched Star Trek,

they just talk to their computer, right? They'll just say computer and do this. And there's,

you know, an audio response, they're not necessarily typing on a keyboard to interact with

the ship's computer. And so he tries to talk to the computer. And everybody, of course, 1985,

they're looking at him like, what's wrong with this guy? He's like, computer, are you there?

And he holds the mouse up to his mouth and says, you know, computer. And he's like, just use the

keyboard. So then he uses the keyboard and you see him, he starts to pack, you know, one finger at a

time, he gets faster and faster. And what it makes me think is that, you know, some of the previous

ways that, like typing, for instance, may become something that is completely antiquated and

unnecessary. And I think about that when I think about skill sets, and okay, I'm giving this up,

and I'm not going to be the fastest typer ever was, wasn't going to be, but I definitely won't be now

that I'm talking to these tools. And so I'm okay with that. Personally, like, I'm fine. I know how

to type, I'm not going to get any better at it, because I'm usually using a voice transcription,

that's a skill set that I'm okay at referring. But on the flip side of things, seeing what these

tools are capable of, and how to utilize them, I think that is a skill that I should really

lean into and understand. And you're not going to be perfect at it right away, right? Let's say you

go out today, you listen to this episode, you go, you know, figure out open cloud, which isn't the

easiest thing to get set up, by the way, just a warning right there, it takes a little bit

to get this actually set up. There's some, you know, resources and some technical ability just

to get that far. But you get this set up, even once it's running, you might not have the best idea

of how to use it, because there's never been anything quite like this. And so you have to

experiment, because maybe you have an idea, and you're like, Oh, I'd really love for it to do this.

But then you find out, Oh, okay, let's not so great at that. And I remember finding that initially

with chat GPT, like, in the fall of 22, I'm playing around with chat GPT, I'm like, Oh,

what if it could do this? I can't quite do that. But that's the thing is like really

feeling where the edges are and what it's capable of. And of course, it'll be different tomorrow.

But figuring out how these new tools work and how they can benefit you, which again, I think

they really, really can. That's worth it. That's worth the agility. And I think that is where the

future of successful people are going to lie is their ability to shift and adapt to the tools

that are available and not be that guy. And I'm sure if you've been, you know, alive long enough,

you remember people that refuse to use a computer refuse to use email, I knew those guys, I worked

with those guys, when I first entered the field of I don't use a computer. And this was, I don't

2006, like, I mean, you, you are putting yourself in an extreme disadvantage. And I think this is

that tool times 10. To say that, Oh, you know, AI is BS is hype, you know, I'm not going to mess

around with it. I think is a huge mistake. And I think we need to be able to recognize the tools

and the value and experiment and see you where their limitations are, what we can actually use

them for. But check it out. That's the whole point of this episode is to really encourage everybody

who's listening to explore this stuff, see what's out there, see what might be possible experiment

with it. Because as time moves forward, and it's going to happen quickly, I think it's really

important to understand these things. And the ones that will be rewarded are the people who do this,

figure this out, and know how to integrate it into what they're doing. And especially in the blue

color world, I think we can utilize these tools to do repetitive tasks that take away from our big

needle moving function within our job or our business. So that's where I'm going to wrap this

one up for today. Like I said, I hope to have some other people on to talk more in depth about

the AI topic specifically. But we'll see what happens. But let me know your thoughts on it.

If you've got anything to add to this, shoot me an email, put it in the Facebook group,

whatever, you know how to get a hold of me. But that's all I've got for today. So thank you for

listening. Let's get out there and start fixing the world one card at a time.

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