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About this episode
A chaotic, offbeat “spring break” reset from Shift+F1: the hosts mostly skip F1 talk to trade Northern Irish/Irish accent stories, book recommendations, and video-game tangents (including Max Verstappen’s Tarkov obsession). When F1 does surface, it’s about the upcoming April 9 team meeting on new qualifying/energy rules, plus the ADUO upgrade system and how the schedule break affects teams differently. News focuses on Alpine’s open letter denying sabotage/driver favoritism amid social-media harassment, then it’s emails—ranging from Mario Kart sponsor parodies to a deep dive on how far a 777 could theoretically stop on a race track.
Topics:
f1 schedule break and spring hiatus
april 9 team meeting on new regulations
qualifying energy limits and recharge closing-speed gaps
aduo upgrade opportunities explained
alpine open letter amid franco colapinto harassment allegations
social media fan harassment and team morale
verstappen and tarkov gaming talk
emails: mario kart sponsor parodies
emails: theoretical jet landing distance engineering
emails: what 'driveability' means in f1
With war across the Middle East still raging, Formula 1 has a three week break before the seasons resumes in Miami. So we take this week to chat about some slivers of news and answer your emails.
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New Yorker article about HSBC (and Switzerland, by extension)
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Shift F1, a podcast about speedy race cars.
I am Drew Scanlon.
Joining me, we have Danny O'Dwyer.
How are you, Danny?
I'm doing fantastic.
If I look or sound a bit different, it's because I'm using
a different mic and I'm in a different place, but I'm still at home.
Still Irish.
I'm still Irish.
Connoisseur talk.
But he's out in the barn.
I'm out in the barn, but the wife is putting me out here now
and not allowed to be in the house anymore after she found out what I done.
You know?
Jesus.
Do you want me to do the whole podcast like this, if you want?
No.
I've been watching a lot of Blue Lights, which is a cop show based in Northern Ireland.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like we're good.
The present day or like, OK, yeah.
There's a lot of like the Pealers have got your da.
Oh, yeah, they do.
Wow.
That's good.
That's probably a better Northern Irish accent than I can do.
We used to say.
Did somebody grass him out?
Oh, there's there's a lot of touts going on.
My favorite thing to say in a Northern Irish accent is a power shower.
Power shower.
What is it?
What is a power shower like an electric shower?
Do you guys not have those?
No, like a like a heat like a coil heated shower.
They're really loud.
We have them in Ireland.
It's not like what.
So wait, is that like?
Sorry.
Is that like tankless?
But like we just put a coil on the water coming out.
Yeah, it's it's kind of scary because it's just like the box is there
and then you press a button on it like in the shower.
So you're in there with the electric with the toaster with the toaster.
Yes, correct.
And it's like.
And then the water goes through it.
And so instead of having to heat the water hot or like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, water is instantly hot.
But it's yeah, it's yeah.
A lot of Irish houses have like old plumbing and it's hard
to get sometimes the hot water to the spot in the house.
So you just put in a power share.
How are you doing brain?
Okay.
You know, I lived in Pittsburgh.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
The Pittsburgh toilet.
No.
So we're talking accents.
He says that there towel and pile rhyme a big old pile of towels.
Where's this Pittsburgh?
Pittsburgh.
Yeah.
Towel towel.
Towel.
Towel.
Towel.
Towel.
Yeah.
So on this topic, though, I have recommendations one for each of
you.
Okay.
I guess they're both the same author, but he's really good.
Northern Irish writer.
His first novel is I think still his best.
He's Adrian McKinty.
Okay.
He wrote a book called that I will may be that is one of
like one of the hardest crime epics I've ever read.
It is about like Northern Irish guy who gets caught up in like
basically a benefit scam and he has to flee Northern Ireland and
he gets thrown in with a like small American Irish gangster in
New York in the early nineties.
And it is just about the sort of escalating cascade of shit
that he gets into, like as a as a low level enforcer for this
guy.
But then he writes a series drew that I think you might really
enjoy if you enjoyed the show.
He writes a series as a police procedural set Northern Ireland
during the Troubles.
And it is like Catholic cop working for the Royal Ulster
Constabulary, sort of a man without a country trying to
solve murders against the backdrop of the politics and
events of like of not just not just the Troubles, but like
there's a there's a book where like you just forget insane
shit was happening all the time in that era.
Like there's a there's a book that hinges on John DeLorean
and the scandal of the DeLorean Motor Company.
He brought it back.
He brought it back to cars folks.
No, that like Northern Ireland has really hitched a lot of
it's like, you know, it's the stature era.
Industry is dying.
Here comes this like charismatic, like American genius coming
to open a motor car company in Northern Ireland.
And just how it all goes to fucking ash over the course of
like in over a few months.
Really great series though.
And it is like it pays off incredibly.
Yeah, same with say nothing series based on a book by
Patrick Radin Keefe about the Troubles, both the book and
the show are very, very good.
It's a little political though.
I'm sorry.
Like this is a little bit of politics.
Keep politics out of Northern Ireland.
We're recording this.
And at the moment the the president just posted.
I don't even know what to say about what he just posted.
It's not a threat of nuclear Armageddon.
I don't know.
Hey, by the time you listen to this, if you're a
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I'm a little, I'm a little concerned that we're recording
because like if we're recording, that could mean
nuclear Armageddon happens like immediately after we
finish recording because that is just what happens.
Oh, you think that we that one curse and the F1 schedule.
Oh, you're saying that we'll, we'll make it happen
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Oh yeah.
That's a good point of news coming out right after we
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Yeah.
That's Rob Zachary.
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We're posting the first half of our drive to survive
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And then the following week we won't have one up for the
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Yes.
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Yeah, we've been, we've been, yeah, especially
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advancements, question mark that F1 changes.
Yeah.
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Did you guys see the Valtteri Butt Ass
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from his place in Australia?
Oh, I did not watch it.
Oh, you shared this in the chat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a good time.
He is chilling.
He is loving his life in Australia.
He has an Airbnb on his property.
And he openly invites people in the video, yes.
To go there.
So we need to find a slot in the year
where we'll know he'll be there.
I so badly want to go to Australia, too.
Like, I've never been.
Always seems awesome.
I think he's in a part.
I think he's in an area called McLaren,
which is a bit weird.
I mean, it's not weird because Bruce McLaren
was Australian, but like, it's just, you know,
given his team.
But yeah, he said that he's like,
he's hung out with some of the guests.
You know, he helped some ladies with their bags
and all that.
He can drink some of his wine.
He's got a vineyard.
He lives on a vineyard.
He can drink some Bottas wine, you know?
Do you have to, like, sign something
though if you're staying at his Airbnb?
Like, if he's around, you might see his dick.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he's just going in a sauna every day.
Like, look, we got a great,
we're thrilled to host you.
We got a great, we got a great little slice of heaven here.
But like, like Eden,
Valtteri lives in a state of innocence,
a pre-life Syrian innocence.
And he will just sometimes find him
wandering around in the nude.
I feel like if no one,
people don't know Valtteri Bottas,
they might think that's a weird thing to say,
but this is a man who has produced a nude calendar.
So, you know, his butt has part.
His turnaround as a personality.
Oh my God.
Started with nudes.
It did.
Like, it started, like, it was like,
he was such a, like, buttoned down kind of
dower character at Mercedes for years and years.
And the first cracks in the facade
were just like no comment posts of, like,
exactly, just no comment posts of, like,
him swimming naked in the streams
somewhere in, like, Finland.
Didn't he, like, get that photo frame
and give it to Lewis Hamilton?
Yeah, he did, you're right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, if you can't tell,
little light on the news this week,
but we will get to your emails in a moment.
It's mostly an email episode.
It's mostly an email episode,
but I just did want to cap some,
reset on some things.
We mentioned last episode there will be a meeting
of the teams and Formula One
on Thursday this week, April 9th, where they're,
this is sort of a planned meeting
that was always going to happen.
It's sort of a, hey, how are we feeling
about the new regulations?
How are we feeling about these new rules?
So that is happening on April 9th,
and they will be discussing things like,
hey, qualifying is,
because of the whole battery thing,
we're not going full tilt on a qualifying lap.
Are we cool with that?
Or are we cool with how much these cars
have to recharge at the end of a straight?
And we're probably not cool
with the discrepancy in closing,
in speeds when someone is recharging
and someone is not.
The closing speed gap, therefore,
is quite large, as we saw in the last round,
when Oliver Bearman had to go off track
to avoid a very slow Franco Colapinto.
So they will all be discussing that stuff on Thursday.
We don't really have a lot of insight
into where things are going to go.
But stay tuned to the F1 news
and this podcast, of course,
we will have our, I guess,
when we come back before Miami,
we'll have more to say about that.
They were doing this, obviously, beforehand,
but then, yeah, I feel like the Colapinto,
who crashed?
No, Bearman, the Bearman incident at Suzuka
has sort of rustled up that particular issue
to the four, I suspect.
Yeah, and I wonder what they're going to do.
I mean, I think my money will be on them
that sort of...
I mean, they can already do so much
with regard to how much power is...
There's some levers you can pull.
How much you regenerate, how much you can deploy.
Those are variables that can be tweaked.
How much you can tweak those
and still have a racing series.
How much they want to tweak them.
They might have to slow the cars down as well.
That might be part of it as well.
The ceiling is there,
so we'll pull it back a bit.
Yeah, we'll have to wait and see.
Another thing that is kind of in the background here,
which we haven't really discussed,
is what's called the Additional Development
and Upgrade Opportunities, or ADUO system.
This is sort of a...
Because of the new regulations.
Yeah, well, yeah.
So, new regulations coming in,
new power unit manufacturers coming in in Audi,
and Cadillac.
Formula One has a system basically where
if you are a manufacturer and your engine is behind,
there's more allowance for you
to develop that engine and get a little closer.
The technical side of it is
F1 has a method of determining
the overall performance index, they call it,
of a particular engine.
They'll do this with every engine
and get a number.
For any engine that is between 2% and 4% behind,
they will get basically one upgrade this year
and then one upgrade next year
to be able to bring their engine a little closer
to the upper tier of performance.
If you are below,
if you're more than 4% off, you get two.
Two in the season and then two in the next season.
If you play video games, this feels very normal.
This is like Rested XP
or the game trying to get you to come back.
Like, here, have 100 V-Bucks, you know what I mean?
Like, come on back, it's okay, you're good.
But it's to basically stop drift as it were,
not around corners, but between the teams
to try and compress the field as much as possible.
They should have a special allowance, though,
for certain teams they should be allowed.
Hey, we'll just replace your car, don't worry about it.
Bring it back in as a bum model, we're sorry.
Here's a new one.
No love lost.
Yeah, so the thing about this break is that it has,
first of all, regarding AUDO,
they had planned for the first assessment
to come six races in, which would have been Miami.
But because we're now missing two,
they are thinking of pushing that out to Monaco.
So that has some implications for some of these teams catching up.
However, the break also gives some,
is another opportunity for some teams to kind of take a reset
and consider their upgrade path.
But, again, on the other side,
someone like, I think you were alluding to, Danny,
Aston Martin, might not enjoy this break
because they were effectively using the races as test beds,
practice sessions, and so they won't be getting those.
So it'll help some, it'll hurt some.
We've got AUDO in the background here.
We've got the April 9th meeting in the background here.
So when we come back, we'll probably have a lot to discuss.
And like we've said, over the course of a season,
things can drastically change.
Will they this time? We'll see.
Verstappen also, the Verstappen question,
interesting with regard to the break
because it's like maybe this is what he needs
to step away from the sport for a little bit,
to cool off, or maybe this is going to give him
a little taste of life after F1.
Hanging out with the homies,
playing Arc Raiders if you watched us Arc Raiders train.
No, is he playing Arc Raiders?
Yeah, he's pretty good.
I mean, he's pretty good.
He's got a little crew of people
and it's very, very strange to watch Max Verstappen
saying like, watch out for the Rocketeer.
Yeah, I mean, we knew all of the play video games in COVID,
but I thought Verstappen was strictly eye-racing.
He played some Tarkov, I guess.
Yeah, he played some Tarkov.
So I guess Arc Raiders is like, baby Tarkov.
Who am I going to get on my marathon teams?
Who won?
Who's going to join my marathon team?
Is it Albon? Is he a marathon guy?
Oh, who would be a marathon person?
Botas.
No, it'll be one of it.
It'll be like Bearman or someone one of the guys.
They're called a duty guys, right?
And no, I think they play for sure.
I bet feet or whatever it's EA Sports FC or whatever it's called.
I bet they're all big.
Yeah. God, see, this is the problem.
It's the hot and cold Verstappen experience though, right?
Where it's like, yeah, we got a Tarkov guy on the grid.
And like, is that also alarming in the same ways
that like sometimes Max can be like a bit much?
Yeah. Yeah.
He would be a Tarkov guy, but also it's like cutthroat.
It's kind of cool though.
It's I mean, you can't be, you know, you can play.
You can pick up call of duty and FIFA or whatever.
It's as a casual player, but like if you're playing Tarkov
and, you know, and you're willing to be miserable.
Yeah, you're ready to live in that world and lose everything.
Put it all on the line.
Because again, our origins are in video game land.
But if people are more approaching this from the
standpoint of a perspective.
Yeah.
So the way I would put it is what we were joking about is like
Lewis and Pierre play Call of Duty, the big popular military
shooter, like everyone in the brother plays that Max Verstappen
playing Tarkov.
That is an Eastern European multiplayer shooter that is
basically set in like a bombed out post-Soviet hellscape.
And if you lose, and this is the key thing in normal games,
like RPGs, you equip items from your inventory, but if you
die, you just respawn, you still have everything.
Yeah.
Tarkov was like one of the first games to be like, what if
you didn't?
What if you died in like in a multiplayer game?
You lost everything you brought with you.
And when you go back out to the main menu, now you
just don't have a machine gun anymore.
Now maybe yet like all the nice stuff you brought, that's
gone.
Now you get like a rusted out like Soviet officers pistol
from like 1975.
And now dig your way out of that hole.
Yeah.
Like go back into the game with this like piece of
shit pistol and like maybe you can find another gun.
I don't know, but you probably get killed by people
with like high-end NATO hardware and stuff.
That's that game.
Like it is just like the failure spirals in that game
like F1.
It is game of like virtuous but also vicious cycles
where like loss begets loss begets loss.
Victory begets like gain of resources, but it will drive you.
It'll drive you mad.
Max playing that is like the most max thing you can
imagine, but also it's so weird to think of like
an accomplished athlete investing time in a game.
Yeah.
Because you that is a truly sick lifestyle.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not it's like you can pick up the other games
like a you know, a normie as a word, but if you're
playing Tarkov like Tarkov is I play a lot of games.
I have 300 hours in our craters, a similar type
game.
I will not play Tarkov.
It is a game that you really feeling bad.
Oh my God, like terrifies me.
Call of duty.
It's like, hey, like shoot the shit with your
buddies, lean back on the couch.
Like, yeah.
So what's up?
Like bam, bam, bam, fun.
Tarkov is like, I played for three hours.
I now want to stick my computer in a microwave
and hit like five minutes and walk away.
Dude, the my neighbor next door here.
And when I first met him, I was like, do you play
any games?
And he was like, yeah, I play Tarkov.
I might respect for him instantly shot up.
I was like.
But also maybe your fear of him.
Yeah.
I was like, all right, you hear any noises in
my in my yard.
You used, you know, that's not me or my
family.
You know, you use those skills, my friend.
Well, we've got a couple more news items here.
We're going to take a quick break and we will
be back with him.
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Wait, first of all, did
was Prestapin playing Tarkov?
I know Norris was.
No, he's paying our craters, but he
has played Tarkov in the past.
Oh, he has?
Okay.
All right.
Rob, you've got a couple here.
Speaking of, I don't know.
We were talking about.
Yeah, Colorado.
Oh, jeez.
Yeah, so over this past weekend,
on their social channels, Alpine
released kind of a weird statement.
Not a weird statement.
Like we see statements like this a
lot, but it was kind of like what
is this about?
They were talking about the
kind of like what is this about?
They released an open letter addressing
allegations that they were
sabotaging Franco Colopinto
and favoring Gasly.
And it's one of those things where
the existence of an open letter
implies a great deal about like what
it must be in response to.
And there were a couple things.
Want to play the standard game of like
we take all harassment
and negativity seriously.
We've also like Franco is getting
death threats from people who think
he put a bearman into the wall
on purpose.
But also we need to address
the fact that people are making
horrible allegations against
members of our team about the team
favoring Pierre Gasly
and sabotaging Franco Colopinto's
car.
And then like it's a long,
it is a long letter talking about
like none of this is true.
Franco and Pierre get along great.
They're actually over there in the
garage, heads together working on
the cars together right now.
They're buds.
But it was all of a piece with the
thing we talked about Franco before
and also with Argentine
ultras is I think
what they're sort of called in
football circles.
Every fan community
and every country
has a version of this.
But it does seem like
Argentina maybe has
a slightly outsized reputation
relative to the country's size for
producing an absolutely unhinged
rabid
fan culture that goes on
social media and
harasses people to
as a way of supporting
like Argentine
athletes and teams.
And we saw that happen with
like
God I've already forgotten his name
over in IndyCar.
But there was
it'll come
it's like five minutes after we
stop recording but
similar issues there where like
IndyCar was suddenly dealing with
like weird
harassment and abuse coming
from supporters of this one
driver.
And Franco, it's been an
interesting story because
I think we talked about this when
he started first burst on the scene
seeing a couple years ago.
He himself
is by the accounts like
an expert social media user
very funny very charming had a huge
following
and
that
that was the story for a bit
but since he got into F1
now it's less about his posts
and the following he has with like
his own personal popularity and it's more
about kind of
the wild abuse of stuff that
his supporters are getting up to
in and around the sport.
This also happens
or parenthetically with
in
in Drive to Survive
do in talking about
how scary it was during his time as like a
Mark-Man at Alpine.
Documentary didn't call
this out directly because it's kind of a
you know it's not the business that
documentaries and it sort of made it seem like
people are just pissed at Alpine for not
having for not having a great driver
in the car and do in getting
but really is very clear that
in you know
elliptically what they were talking about is
do in was in
call a Pinto seat
and he was getting
wild scary fan harassment
for the crime
of not being Franco call Pinto
and like blocking his
his position F1 which by the way
everyone basically knew it was a done deal
like do in was a Mark-Man
it was just
fans viciously harassing him
now that it's happening again
and
to me the open letter is concerning
in part
like obviously the stuff shouldn't be happening
it's bad news
but the other part of it is
forget to hit a point where team releases a statement
like this
suggest to me that
the team felt they had to do something
and that could be
other teams
getting sick of their own socials being
inundated with
like
harassment from call Pinto fans and it's like
you gotta do something about he's in your camp
his fans are your responsibility
but also people within Alpine
are like we are getting
you know
gamergated almost
or like sweet baby this is where
for the crime of just like existing
in this team
with Franco call Pinto
and the team is having
to take some sort of position
to deal with what is becoming
an internal morale problem
just based around this guy
I have not seen anything that suggests Franco call Pinto
has done
anything to drive this
I also
I don't follow this stuff super closely
I personally haven't seen anything that suggests
that Franco call Pinto has
really tried to shut it down
but
for a statement like this to come out
says to me there's a problem
and at a certain point whatever the
financial backing Franco call Pinto has
there
is a degree to which
everything is on a ledger
right cost benefits
if even this guy is bringing in
sponsor money
if it comes with such
intense invasive
harassment that like internally
members of the team are starting to feel unsafe
and unable to focus
then
there is a point where you gotta deal
with this and that might be what happened
in the car was eventually they just got rid of that guy
not like
his performance wasn't amazing
but it wasn't terrible
all the shit he came with
Augustine Canapino
was that the guy or was that the guy who was given
the death threats
no no that was the guy
yeah
so I think like call Pinto I think
is in a little bit of danger
just from the standpoint of
hey dude you come with a lot of
baggage
just by virtue of this fan base
that's attached itself to you
and I mean man
Alpine's a team that's trying to get a shit together
right like undo the damage of Laura Rossi
how
if it's this bad
guys like imagine
you're interviewing somebody you want to hire
and like part of it is like come over to Alpine
this becomes part of the conversation
right like this is something that like
you would be considering as part of any sort of
recruitment how are you gonna protect my
yeah home address
yeah it's
like you said we don't know probably
a lot of this probably
isn't in the public and if you try
and look for it you might be sort of
reading tea leaves a little bit but yeah
the fact that they came out with this unfortunately
means that there was a motivation
to do so
so yeah it's
hopefully it's just
board F1 fans in the
gap you know but yeah it's
it's a shit hopefully we can all move on
well
such a ludicrous idea
like why would a team do this like that's
that's what's striking to me about this is that
they're coming out and saying like
an open letter about how
Franco Colopinto is not
an alien you know
and I think that's
I think it emerges from the same places
like stuff like like you said Rob like
you know the seed of things like
Gamergate and all those things is a lot of it is
just like people who are angry and bored
like they don't do they need
do they really believe a thing is happening
they just want to
they just want to find a target and get angry
at them you know like they don't
the rush of everyone doing it it's like
it's like the Naruto run into
Area 51 it's the same thing it's
like it's protection in a
group you know what I mean like oh we're doing this
alright let's do it let's cause sabotage
you know and it's outside of you know
we used to just like listen to metal
music and drink in the park
but like this is now a people you know
well and I think there's
frustration into you know
and I think that stuff also
broader about
the broader like moment
in the world in online life
is that
I think there are a ton of
people who
are deeply self
centered selfish but you're
it's tough to square that with like
the obvious evidence of your relative
insignificance and powerlessness
right like you can't affect the world
you can react to it but you can't
do anything to make anything
happen in that space
Rob you're playing your
your speech has been too long
the music is going on
but
I think the like where this
like lines up is there's a lot of people who
through harassment campaigns
you can at least see something happen
like you can
see the world react
and that's part of the attraction is like
it becomes kind of fun because it's like
you're part of something that produces a visible effect
even that effect is
an open letter to please stop harassing us
or people talking about how they're like
you know having to like hide their address
yeah
alright well let's move from Alpine
Rob to Audi
yeah no real news
just um the
since Wheatley left
uh
Matia Bonanno made clear that he'll
sort of be stepping in as
uh
most like taking on most of the
team principal duties and what he really wants
is somebody to take on track
side duties during like race weekends
and
the suggestion is that is part maybe of
why Wheatley left
in addition to the rumors that like
he hated Switzerland and so did
his spouse
it was a little bit too
there's also a too many cooks situation
right where I thought I was going to be
the team principal and like have sort of
and then control this team
but now Matia is also doing
a lot of that and I'm kind of
running the pit wall
which is not what I signed up for and
the gloss on that was Wheatley took
this job intending it as a
big promotion over sporting director
at uh at Red Bull
and since then
he's kind of finding himself a little
bit closer to being
sporting director under Matia Bonanno
yeah
uh this
is uh nothing in here
um is
contradicting the earlier
rumors that he is going to
uh Aston Martin
though so
but it is maybe providing
a
a reason that he was looking
in the first place
so that's not yet confirmed
that he's going to Aston Martin but
uh that is what all the
motorsport news people
understand
um all right well that's the news
such as it is shall we take it to
the emails
emails
um yeah looks like we're
kicking things off here with Danny
oh sorry I should read it
f1.cool slash emails
if you want to send us some electronic
mails tis the season
will we do emails on the pre
Miami show probably right
I think so yeah yeah so I'll be coming up
I'll be coming up but here's the first email
I don't know who sent it in
it's anonymous let's say
this might be common knowledge
but I only found out today that the Japanese
version of Mario Kart 64
has Marlborough style
fake sponsors
this is true have you guys seen this
I just pasted it into the discord
the picture of the Mario
I'll just put it right there in the dock
yeah it just says
Mario Row in the
Marlborough font unmistakable
with the crown
flipped yes
exactly yeah you
got Donkey Kong driving straight into it
it's good stuff I mean
this is this is
a great one but there are many more
parodies
of advertisers
in Mario 64
there's like
petroleum
sponsors
I feel like I saw
a grid of all of them
really in our discord yeah
so I'll see if I can find that
for the show notes okay I've got a couple
yeah they got
we have a Yoshi
one
for mobile one
yeah
Koopa air I don't know what logo
that is
here I'm gonna paste this in so you guys can see this
oh yeah there we go Yoshi one for mobile one
76
has 64
oh that's good which is pretty good
so it's good year has Koopa
air
oh uh huh
Marlborough of course
aGip has
which is pretty nice yeah
it's good man parody parody can
that's that's get around
a lot of copyright law
with that stuff it's beautiful
good time that's good
alright our next email comes from
Natalie got 8 minutes
in episode 340 and had
to write in my first email
listening
subscribing since 2021 full transparency
my sponsor level would be the equivalent
of having a logo on the driver's
ankle but I just wanted to respond
to the one listener
who the one loser
who thought you were too political
you are not be
that's the sort of person who hates the EI
but is also
sued because
they lost out on a job due to
being white my husband's cousin
did this with the Boston police
he too hates politics
Jesus Christ
that is
wow suing the Boston police
because you think they're anti-white
wow
that's
fucking hell no easy day for
that lawyer to approve that one
man
thank you Natalie
there you go
have either of you ever lost a job
for being white
it's the only question
I could think of
all right
from Alan
okay I've not read this
but I've looked ahead and I'm very excited
just finished your Australian GP
and Chinese GP pre-race podcast
I enjoyed it as much as I always do
and was even more excited when Rob
wondered what the biggest airplane
one could land on the Shanghai
back straight might be
I fly jets for a living
opportunity to merge my favorite sport
with my profession is somewhat rare
so I apologize if this gets too nerdy
but here goes
oh my god Alan thank you so much
I'm so excited
first some conditions and assumptions
the number I'm about to throw out is
through occasionally you define
some of the terms he's going to throw around
but as you go through
feel free to just like
wiki dictionary some of this
okay
conditions and assumptions
the number I'm about to throw out is based
on the following
maximum manual
braking that is mashing the pedals
to the floor as soon as the main gear
touched landing gear touchdown
forcing the anti skid system
to do its thing this is not a normal
procedure
maximum reverse thrust on both engines
and automatic
speed brakes the multiple door
looking things that pop up
on the top of the wings automatically
deploying on touchdown
like NASCAR
also assuming 15 degrees celsius
or 59 degrees
Fahrenheit temperature
aka
ISA standard
so the colder
the air the denser
it is so
the more effective
using the air to brake would be
no wind
so nothing helping or hurting
the landing okay no headwind no tailwind
V ref
plus five knots
essentially not too fast
and not too slow I'm not
I don't remember what V ref is
it's been a while since I've flown a plane
but the V speeds are basically the
the
certain speeds
that your aircraft
can operate under
calculates the base value of an airplane
oh no that's that copyright
forget about it
not I think what
Alan is saying here is like
we're not excessively slowing
like in danger of stalling
you're not coming in hop
you're not about to stall out basically
1% downhill runway
slope which I think is
fairly common
and touching down in the first 1000 feet
on the numbers
right so not
dangerous and touching down right at the
very beginning of their own way
also we'd have to
assume that the pavement can handle such big airplanes
look up pavement classification
numbers to explore that rabbit hole
that the track is wide enough
for the huge wings
yeah the stands might get in the way
a little bit and we have to throw the
regulations in common sense out the window because
no one would ever say this is a legal or good idea
all that being said from
an engineering standpoint using the above conditions
a Boeing 777300
weighing
350,000 pounds
can come to a complete
stop in a truly shocking
2,580 feet
that's crazy it sounds fictional
but that's the number in the flight
manual bear in mind this is a
passenger jet albeit a very well designed one
military aircraft designed
around taking off and landing
on shorter runways are capable of
even more ridiculous landing distances
operation credible sport
in 1980 had
C-130's landing on a
soccer pitch
so
I've opened up that Wikipedia article
while I do that can someone look up
the Shanghai back straight
distance
this email does not have it because
2,580 feet
well it's got it's like
close to a kilometer right
and this is less than half a mile
so 1.17 kilometers
so about 0.73 miles
so convert that to feet
and we'll see how far
down the runway
or the straight that this can be
operation credible sport was
3,838 feet
okay
3,838
so basically two thirds
it would take them to the spares
yeah
so operation credible sport this is from Wikipedia
a joint project
it never actually happened because
a plan to rescue hostages
held in Iran in 1980
okay so basically it sounds like
yeah it sounds like
they would use rockets
attached to a C-130
yeah to both arrest
the plane on
the landing and then boost
it on takeoff
yeah it almost looks like a VTOL kind of
yeah the system
that is crazy
they do use these rockets
relatively regularly
for takeoffs
but I think this would be
um
I don't know that it's common for them to
use them to
for landings
that's wild I mean that's a big plane
like that
that is crazy
wow my favorite thing about this email is
Alan's wording
make sure he tells us that he thinks
this is a bad idea
illegal
from an engineering standpoint
like these are the words of a
professional pilot
making sure that he's not
he's not getting any trouble
I love it
that's great I want to look up pavement
classification I want to see what my
what my driveway is maybe I could
get it upgraded you know
by the way ISA stands for
International Standard Atmosphere
and I'm going to look up VREF
it's good stuff that is great
I would like to know what plane
could I guess it'll you know
just be like some sort of
Embraer or something like what would
comfortably land
VREF is 1.3 times the stalling
speed in the stated landing
configuration at the prevailing aircraft
wait yes
this is being required as the land and runway
threshold is crossed at a height of 50 feet
in landing configuration if the calculated
aircraft performance is to be achieved
1.3 is a pretty generous margin though
right?
I guess 30% over is that what it's saying
30% over stall speed
I guess if you're landing
you don't want to be that much further
from stall speed
any moment you need to go overboard
like the second
this is when you're crossing the runway
threshold because when you
actually do land you do stall
like you have to fall out of the sky
to touch the ground
I think I've been on a plane once that did a
late abort it was not awesome
but it was kind of awesome in retrospect
yeah but like a late wave off
where it's like
plane is well into the approach
and then suddenly you just hear the engines
like spike to max power
and
suddenly like the thing is just rocketing
back up into the sky
it is pretty bonkers
yeah it also like makes people more anxious
the second time around
I think that's the thing I don't like about it
is the pressure then
that exists in everyone's head
about is it gonna land this time
especially if you're doing wind
yes I was flying into Portland one time
and we had to go around
multiple times
because of wind
and could not
end up landing there
really?
so I had a flight into
I don't know what the
Stockholm airport is not that big right
the one outside Stockholm
it's the generally flying region
Arlanda I think it's cool
but
you know these smaller
aircraft you feel
the flight much more
much more intensely
which can be kind of fun but it wasn't this day
because it was huge cross breezes
cross winds and so the plane
was
doing some wild crabbing
I don't want to think about what it would have looked like
if you were standing at the runway like photographing the plane
because it felt like
it felt like we had to be like
25-30 degrees off of
off of straight from the nose
but crucially it's not like that stable
like the plane is
correcting for the cross winds the entire time
and you're watching like
it feels like the plane is pitching
like it is rolling
like a ship
and it's like the wings
it always feels worse than it is
it feels so terrible
I was in a puddle jumper one time
as a passenger and
seated by the window and the cross winds are so bad
I could look out my window
at the runway
like I could see the runway
from my window
that was the thing that I that was the part where I couldn't
because Arlanda has like a lot of trees
next to it too but it's like
you look out the window and suddenly scrolls
and you don't see sky anymore
you see trees and ground
and then boom you see sky again
and only sky
and you get me out of here
I mean so much apologies to anyone who's on a flight right now
listening to this
I have my flight anxiety moments
for sure even though I love flying it
it's like sort of a contradiction in my head
but I often wonder
if somebody flies into SFO a lot
I often wonder does that freak people out
because I'm so used to it
I love it no no I'm fine
describe what you're talking about
the approach into San Francisco
is basically over the bay
for a very very very extended period of time
and you don't see
you don't see the land
on what you're going to land on
until you're basically hitting the runway
the runway is over the bay
it is like stretching out into the bay
and you get quite low
yeah I'm totally
I don't think give it a second thought
but I was thinking a while ago I was like
oh I wonder if this is like your first time
into SFO is this like terrifying
you're just like
you're like over a bridge
Logan airport in Boston similar thing
where it's like you are
you're looking down at like shoals
rocks
and you're like you can't see what's ahead of you
so you don't know like there's a huge
airport like directly ahead
that's another craggy little island
boy like you couldn't even
ditch safely here if you add to
because it's just like it's all shallows
well to go around in SFO is also
fun because they have to clear the
mountain as well
it's like because of the
oh don't love that
my favorite one is
I think I've talked about this before
my favorite departure is
I think it's John Wayne
which has the
airport which has the
there's a
very wealthy neighborhood to its west
that
lobbied to basically have it so you can't
they're not allowed to have engine
noises after I think it's like eight o'clock
or something so they'll just like
punch the sky on takeoff
like just go
you know 50% of the time they'll let you know
you know that come over the thing and go
hey if this is the first time leaving John Wayne
just so you know we're gonna hit it real hard
on takeoff and then it's gonna
wind down the engines so they had
they just like they just punch the sky
that goes fast as they can and then when they
get over this neighborhood they like turn
the engines down
it's really weird so you end up taking
off it goes like whoa like fast
you've ever gone on a takeoff so it goes
quiet so probably some other
neighborhood is getting
max power jet engines
like at all hours
exactly though the word the blue
collar neighborhood next door to it is getting
like they have to reinforce their windows
I always wonder about the tiny little
like seaside towns on the
approach to Logan because it's like I swear to God
it feels like you reach down touch their roof sometimes
funny and it's like this they're gorgeous
little little islands
but also I always wonder like
is this remotely liveable because
it's like you got nor'easter's blowing in all
hell's breaking loose we have jets flying in all
the time I always think that about C-Tac
because C-Tac is also like it's like
on a mesa almost
it's like C-Tac is like
weirdly high so like
when you're flying in
there's this sort of neighborhood
around it that's up on that like
plateau I guess
but you're looking out you're seeing like loads of
the rest of the city like kind of lower
like in Tacoma so I always
wonder like is it super loud up there
for those people who live there
the Oakland
runway that I was
using when I was learning to fly
has this restriction as well
and so I would I would take off and then
in in like almost
in my climb have to turn
oh wow
yeah it was you were taking off
westerly or easterly
north easterly
yeah to the
let's see this runway
2
4 so
to the
kind of west
that's crazy
and then bank basically
to the right to avoid
that so I had to learn my
V speeds very very well
to be able to make sure I was climbing
at the right speed and to be able to turn
that's a stall
that's like an
early pilot stall
situation right is like
climbing and banking at the same time
and not having enough
speed I guess
yeah nice that's cool
do I need to get rudder pedals
yeah it's not the most urgent
thing by all means
but as we plunge toward
an uncertain future and
scarcity of who knows what
do I need to like
raid is Thrustmaster still basically where you just
go is that your one stop shop drew or is there
a different manufacturers that you should
I have a lot of CH products
which is a little
cheaper you do
I think
yeah I haven't
looked in a while because I bought them a long time ago but they
I like their sticks and stuff
because it's just it's no frills very
matte black it feels like
1990s flight sim
gear I for what it's
worth I have I have
bought almost everything
I had planned to buy
in the past like three weeks
for the rest of the year
I bought a new PC
I already feel like it's too late but
yeah like anything
we have some stuff to do with the house
I'm just like I'm
terrified that everything is going to explode
in price in the next few months
so I just bought an AYN
Thor what's that
what oh it's an emulator
device
nice for what's
a good emulator like a Framemeister kind of
thing or like an actual everything bro
it's a it's a dual screen
Android device
so you can get Nintendo DS on
DS on that thing what's it called the Thor
and it plays like
Thor plays like you're playing natively
but just like maybe even faster because the processor
is better or oh god yeah
look at this thing hey
yeah hey folks
can you tell we're depressed
hey the world's pretty dark
you guys want to talk about your favorite approaches
listen hey let's
let's go shopping I couldn't go to
Monaco for my birthday so
I am buying
my own birthday gifts
that's really cool look at that thing that's awesome
I'm trying to find something for
for Drew's birthday as well
I've got some cool cool ones on things
it's a holiday
alright
email Danny thank you Alan that was great
and next one comes in from Dan
thanks Dan thanks for having a name
like me I recently returned
to the US after living in
Switzerland
oh yeah
okay Danny we got a dig deep
we got a dig deep
never before
never before like
10 words in Hawaii
has the weight of this email
oh my god that's so funny okay here we go
ooh okay
I've been living in Switzerland for a year
I thought I'd share my experience
after all Rob called it
a little weird because
some might be surprised to hear a crumb
of shit talked about such a
highly regarded place
apart from the Nazi gold thing
the country is beautiful extremely
functional
timeliest trains in Europe
and very high trust
I once saw a $10,000 Rolex
sitting on the shelf
where you put your glasses
into Lake Lucerne
on the other hand Rob kind of nailed it
when he said what if an HOA
got a country
there is a national stereotype
slash character called
a boonsley
boonsley
which perfectly illustrates this
and ever
has its own subreddit
even has its own subreddit
sorry
or slash boonsley that's
n-z-l-i
has a z in there
as is tradition
the typical boonsley is someone's grandma
who has lived her whole life in the same village
loves following the rules
and crucially will let you know
if, sorry will let you know
if you don't
among the rules are
no recycling on Sunday
no laundry on Sunday
no noise after 10pm including but not limited to
hammering, sawing, vacuuming
taking a bath
according to some
urinating while standing
running afoul of the rules
will likely earn you a letter from a boonsley
in your mailbox or even
maybe it's boonsley
boonsley I'll say boonsley
in your mailbox or even pinned to your door
second defences are typically
reported to the police
I love the place
and I'm moving back this summer
how an Englishman who's used to being told
what to do could
or who's not used to being told what to do
could
have his feathers ruffled
yeah I would say
as a European transplant to America
I would say this type of lifestyle
is pretty antithetical
to the American way
of living your life I feel like this is
this type of
community deference
like Irish people are definitely capable
of doing this as well
you know what I mean English are very
you know you stand on the
correct side of
on the escalator
if you're not going up like
stand in line for the
the boss English are good at keeping calm
and carrying on like that
and there are a lot of
cultures like this I think
what strikes me about
Switzerland is that
you do have this very sort of
rule following
culture but then you also have
and I guess
tying this back to the beginning of the podcast
I recently read another Patrick
Rad and Keith article about
HSBC
this is from 2016 it's called the bank robber
in the New Yorker I can put a link in the show notes
which is basically like
it's about a specific
guy who leaked
a bunch of financial documents
of people who have their
money in Swiss bank accounts
which are notoriously
you know private
and it's about how basically like
oh yeah everyone is committing
tax fraud
and everyone in Switzerland knows it
or everyone in the Swiss banking
you know
system knows it now this was 10 years ago
but because of that
things changed
yes so the economy
there is what really
is kind of strange about the country
I have
of course
the only natural thing to do after
this email
about Boonsley and our chat
about airplanes is to
look up Switzerland's
strict flight noise laws
apparently
are as
prevalent Zurich airport has
a strict nighttime curfew
that has been enforced since 2010 so between
1130 and 6am
the time between 11
and 1130 may only be used
to reduce a backlog
of delayed flights so they
do not allow you to take off their
non-commercial flights also
non-commercial between 10pm
and 6am
so you gotta land I mean that's
Tahoe has one of those right? Tahoe you can't
a lot of airports have noise restrictions
yeah you can't come in at certain times
did I see something about the town
of Tahoe was recently cut off
from its water supply
for a data center I feel like I saw
there's some wild stuff happening with
water rights up in Tahoe
they're putting data centers up in the high
Sierra's now is that the new
way to cool things
or Tahoe is dependent
for a power grid
issue or a water
grid issue with the data center
a lot going on up there
yeah there's always something going on
one last email here
Caleb writes
I've been an F1 fan since I was a kid
in the early 90s we had to listen on the radio
because most races weren't broadcast in the US
we didn't have cable TV
I've always assumed that I knew what F1
drivers and engineers met by driveability
and a lot of drivers and teams are using the term this year
with the new regulations
I'm listening to a recent interview with Carlos
about the driveability among a bunch of other
characteristics that I thought were
for synonyms of driveability
and I'm embarrassed to say I don't
think I know what driveability
actually refers to
can you guys explain what they mean with this term
so I think by its nature
is a wishy washy term
when you hear drivers say
this car is undriveable
sometimes that doesn't mean anything really specific
sometimes it means I'm pissed off
I'm just annoyed
the thing that
ultimately the characteristic
of a driveable car is consistency
that doesn't mean it has to be a good car
it can be a really bad car
but it has to be bad in the same way
the driver has to be able to learn
how to drive the car
whatever its deficiencies are
when they say something is undriveable
what they frequently mean is
it's handling characteristics
it's issues are not remotely consistent
based on what you are
doing and so you can't really learn
how to drive it
because as far as you can tell
doing the same thing in the same circumstances
will produce different results
and that will make your job
impossible so a
easy example would be
a car can have oversteer or understeer
as just a tendency
ideally
you would want that tendency to be consistent
and predictable it can understeer
a lot it can be really hard to get into a corner
and around a corner
a driver can work with that
as long as they can
account for the fact that it just understeers like crazy
but if the car
understeers like crazy
and then sometimes
while you are trying to
counter that with a lot of steering input
it suddenly oversteers
like crazy
and the back end steps out
and now you're in a spin
that is a
driveability issue
and even there that's a simplified example
like drivers there are cars that
do that at a certain point and put enough input into it
and the thing flips
but when they are talking about like driveability
you want these things to be like roughly
smooth gradient like you sort of understand
what these tipping points are
and you just want to have a sense for where these characteristics land
if a car is really inconsistent
with how it approaches different corners
understeer will show up
and when oversteer will show up
that becomes unpredictable
that is an undriveable car
and that is fundamentally
what they are getting at with these terms
where
we are not in a position where I as a driver
can meaningfully even help you
like ring performance out of this thing
because I
fully know what is going to happen
when I do simple things
like brake, turn
steer, accelerate
different things happen
when I am doing the same thing
as far as I can tell
and so like the most extreme examples
are like a car that
lap by lap
you approach corner
the driver fundamentally doesn't really know what is going to happen
when they get into it
good description
alright well
let's just add Danny
on that one? no?
it's hard to tell without knowing
what the other synonyms were mentioned as well
bit of context
yeah I would say
Rob sums it up pretty well
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no it is us around the internet
we want to take it around the world Danny
let's rest around the world
yeah
you were facing away from the camera
and then had to whip back around
to say the race around the world
much like oh my god what was the
what was the cricket game?
oh Don Bradman
yeah
you little ripper
Don Bradman cricket
I was whipping around because I don't know if the books here
I was looking for it earlier in the other
in my old office
we got
the world rally championship in Zagreb
this weekend
for the
Croatia rally
we've got the craftsman
trucks at Bristol Motor Speedway in Bristol, Tennessee
for the Tennessee
Army National Guard 250
Tennessee has an army
oh yeah
the Nazca Rally
series is also in
Bristol
for the suburban propane
man there's Hank Hill
wave the flag
at the end of that one
can I
can I admit something
my Fortnite skin is Hank Hill
amazing
and Tally is his little
mascot, I have Tally to walk with
Tally from South Park
never always remember to bring a towel
Fortnite is
Repco Supercars
Supercars
they are
at the Taupo International
Motor Sport Park and Events Center
in
Rotokawa
New Zealand
I was expecting a prefecture
surprise
of Australia
Super GT is at Okoyama Denny
in
Mimasaka
Okoyama Prefecture
classic prefecture
is in the Pomona, California
prefecture for the
I'm sorry the Lucas Oil
Internationals at the In-N-Out
Burger Pomona Dragstrip
Get in
Yes
Has anyone ever said get in
to an In-N-Out Burger
Get in and out
Get in and out do it
McDonald's stole its thing from there
this is the original burger
experience cheap burgers good burgers
this is
I have
let me just say
first there was
enthusiasm for In-N-Out
and then you had the In-N-Out haters
think In-N-Out is overrated
I am here to be the
follow on to that the haters
of the In-N-Out haters because
here's what the people who hate In-N-Out
never tell you
they go like
you know what 5 guys
look how much they cost
In-N-Out burger prices
are very cheap
and they pay their employees very well
Have you been to a McDonald's
I went to McDonald's recently
I never eat a McDonald's
they had this K-pop
demon hunters meal thing so of course
I had to bring my daughter to be best out in the world
so we went and got K-pop demon hunters stuff
McDonald's isn't cheap anymore
I walked away with like
$40 worth of food
what the hell is the same problem
nothing like all these places that used to be like
hey let's spend like 10 bucks
and get an army of food
you know what I mean like stoner places
it doesn't happen anymore
I ordered Shake Shack the other day
and
now they've never been cheap
and they've always like gouged you on a bunch of stuff
but like literally
open little container
6 onion rings
oh man that's depressing
in this economy
I was like what is happening here
this is the stingiest thing I've ever seen
the onion rings like being treated like precious gold
it's absurd
the onion supply chain
Motocross Grand Prix
they're way too expensive
they're so expensive
Motocross Grand Prix is in Italy for the MXGP
of Sardinia
oh beautiful
and we got an Oscar
also in Bristol
food city
food city
love food city
can't wait to go to food city
drive down those
beautiful avenues
maybe french fries
no grimoire this week Danny
no I'm gonna find it
well it sounds like things are grim enough
maybe by the time this goes up
I don't know so maybe it may be appropriate
but no I couldn't find it
it's in the other place
the other place
well thanks for
remember she kicked me out of the second house
she said she's had enough of me drinking
and me smoking
and me gallivanting
so now I have to live out here with the goats
is this the equivalent of me doing
the whatever the nascar voice
the nascar voice is that what it is
go for some pints
Danny I have to tell you
I was in an Uber recently
and the driver was Jamaican
and I absolutely
I didn't
consider it until he started speaking
I heard it
was he a white Jamaican guy?
but the accent made me think of you
and then I remembered
yeah and then I remembered
how you were saying that
the viral video of the guy from Cork
and everyone in Jamaica was like
why is this guy speaking patois
and then yeah apparently
subsequently there has been like
videos by the
Jamaican linguists basically saying
like yeah this is
real like Irish people were
you know working alongside
a lot of Jamaican
they were coworkers
don't need to say more
just friendly coworkers
can you send me one of those videos
right in the show now?
yeah it's pretty good stuff
that was the Cork accent
down in Cork they all speak like Dash
down in Cork they're all a bunch of langers
there you go
I'm done with my Irish accents
I think the scanlines are from Cork
Grace you've done well
getting rid of the accents
the brassels are from Meath
Meath
always feels like a lot is happening
with Meath
they have two counties basically
and not a lot happens
in either of them
you can kind of move Kimmy to Dublin from there though
they're nice places out there
killed air it's nice good stuff
by the way we do have
our next race isn't until
the first of
May the weekend starts
but the next one after that is not until the 22nd
so we actually have like
two races in like
six or seven weeks folks
this is not
awesome and there's a week break between that and Monaco as well
right so the only
gap we have is
well first we'll have
for podcasts yes yes
so again just to reiterate here
next week we'll put up the
Drive to Survive part one in the
regular feed yes for everyone
then we will have a gap in the regular
feed but the Formula 2 primer
will be going up for patrons
and then the following week is the Miami GP pre-race
then we'll have the post-race Miami
and then there is a gap
yeah
there's a possibility
I know F1 is a versus hell to doing this
and we want to mess with the money but like
at what point are people going to start
pressuring athletes and teams
across the board to
ban events in the US
to skip events in the US
oh yeah well
I guess we'll see
the World Cup and
yeah
alright let's get out of here
thank you everyone for joining us on this
real weird episode
it's been
wait I have final thoughts Drew
do you find the in and out
fries defensible though
you have to eat them
animal style as well
when you really got it you know immediately
I do agree I like a big messy
animal style fries but like it does
kind of soggy
like yeah they're not
they can be a little styrofoam
but it helps to have them hot
and you ask for salt
because sometimes they don't have enough for me
so
you gotta doctor them a little bit
eat them real fast
can I pour one out for Amy's drive through
they've closed them all
do you ever go to Amy's
Amy's the vegetarian drive through up here
right
and vegetarian
yeah it's good vegetarian food
their headquarters are here in Petaluma
but yeah they had a bunch of really good
drive through places and I think they've shut them all down
like in the past couple weeks
they were awesome
it was a veggie drive through
it was good stuff
pour one out
alright well
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