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518-Breaking Fast
About this episode
Ian and Dave dive into their recent Lemons race experience, blending car culture with true crime narratives. They discuss the quirky intersection of automotive mishaps and forensic analysis, sparked by a humorous incident involving a Jaguar. The episode highlights their camaraderie as they recount cooking a full English breakfast during the race, while also addressing the challenges faced with their car's clutch issues. The duo reflects on teamwork, the importance of collaboration, and their shared passion for racing, all while teasing an upcoming discussion on a notable SCCA autocross story.
Topics:
lemons race
true crime
cooking
clutch issues
teamwork
SCCA autocross
automotive culture
This week we talk about our Lemony race weekend and how your spouse's true crime obsession can help you in the garage, really! We love you!
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Ian.
Dave.
How are you doing, buddy?
It's been a day.
It's been a day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But how are you?
I'm hanging in there, man.
I'm doing okay.
Yeah.
We're coming down off of our Limon's weekend.
We'll talk about that.
Yeah.
And yeah.
There you go.
But I wanted to open with something that I think, like, oftentimes we feel like
car guy nerd interests can really put walls around us.
We can be kind of standoffish.
Podcasting itself, listening to podcasts, this isn't like a collaborative thing, but most
people like to do with their spouses and stuff like that.
Not really that common.
It's kind of a solo thing.
Right.
Well, and I have another barrier that I have constructed around the podcast thing,
which is that I think that there's no more embarrassing sentence in the English language
than I have a podcast.
Will you guest on my podcast?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That one's slightly more embarrassing.
But I think that my wife and I experienced a very good kind of dovetail of our interests.
Okay.
When it comes to cars and something she is absolutely in into, which is obsessively listening
to the Dateline podcast and watching the television show Dateline because she loves true crime.
Okay.
Just about every one of us has a true crime boo somewhere in our lives, right?
Like they are one, maybe two degrees away from us.
That's it.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't have any in our house.
We don't really have.
We listened to Sierra to the first season of Serial.
I think that's probably as close as we ever really got to it.
Who do you think would be like the nearest true crime aficionado in your orbit?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
Okay.
I'm not sure.
I'm sure I know someone who's really into it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Besides Kelly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, I'll get another person.
Yeah.
Right.
I'm trying to think.
I'll stop my head.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Okay.
But anyway, that's like paramount piece of culture, true crime, right?
Yeah.
So my wife and I were in a parking lot.
We were running some errands and there was a bright blue.
Let me see if I can find the color.
It was a Jaguar X.
What's the fast one nowadays?
X F.
The X.
The S.
Yeah.
X F R S.
That's the sedan.
Is that what you're looking for?
Oh, you're looking for the F type.
It was the F type coupe.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, the F type coupe is good looking.
I like that a lot.
It is.
Okay.
F type.
Is there an R?
Cause it was, I don't know.
It was the fast boy and it was a very, very interesting.
Yeah.
It was like this light blue.
Yes.
This is it right here.
Okay.
Okay.
So yeah.
Here we'll show the people.
Okay.
So my little nuggy was parked directly across from it and nose to nose.
Oh no, no, no.
I was in Luther.
What am I saying?
And there was oil splattered on the hood of the Jag like random spots.
Right.
Yeah.
And you and I see something like that.
And we're like, Oh, it's a Jaguar.
It's oil.
Like sure.
Like we're surprised it's not on fire at the current time.
Right.
But my wife was like, hang on.
I think I know what this is.
Yeah.
I have a theory already.
She was like, this couldn't have come from this car because like the, like if it was
like, if it was driving, like, you know, like the, or if it would have come from
these places, the splatter would have been this way.
And she's just like Lester Holting, Keith, Keith Richardson.
Like, yeah, Keith Morrison, Morrison.
Yeah.
Keith Morrison being like the forensics of the oil on the hood of this Jaguar.
And we concluded that this person has a lift.
Yeah.
And a car above it was leaking onto it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lift where the, the most reliable car in the stack is a Jaguar.
Yep.
That's the one they keep on the bottom.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this person makes poor decisions and we need to get to know them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The most sustainable thing is just like yo plate fruit on the bottom
and the most reliable car on the bottom when it comes to lips.
Right.
Yeah.
We do need to get to know them because what is on top, right?
Right.
But like she, she saw something that I did not.
And I love this like automotive murder show like hand holding.
Right.
This like, you know, the meme of the two arms locked together.
I mean, if you want like crime and automotive go together.
Oh.
Pretty nicely.
Just off my top of my dome because we didn't discuss this ahead of time.
But I mean Carlos code, right?
Right.
Like getting smuggled out of a country to fucking piano case.
Yeah.
You've got the assassination of the Renault chairman in the 80s.
Oh, really?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I got shot.
Okay.
There's the guys running the IMSA team that financed their whole
operation with, with drug smuggling.
Yeah.
There's, I mean, DeLorean.
DeLorean.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, the list goes on.
Yeah.
There's a lot.
Yeah.
Alanis King's book and Elizabeth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
The rich energy.
Nonsense with Haas.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
There's so many con men.
Right.
And like.
Murder.
Legit murder.
But also on the comment front.
I mean, Elon Musk.
Right.
Right.
Policy scheme.
Yeah.
So many.
Right.
So much.
Right.
Yeah.
So I, I am here for this like collaboration.
And I think that it is a great way as an automotive person to
connect with the murder show person in your life.
Yeah.
Is forensic analysis of car fluid splatter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Be like, Hey, babe, could you help me with something?
I'm trying to figure out where this leak is coming from.
You know, it's interesting you bring this up because we did
some of that this weekend.
We did a lot of that this weekend.
That was most of our weekend was fluids, either automotive
or other lives.
Um,
I was asleep for a while.
So I don't know what you guys got.
You were asleep for a while.
You were the most rested man in all of the paddock.
Um,
We did a lemons race this week.
We did.
Yeah.
Um,
I would,
I took a picture that I believe represents maybe the most
successful group activity.
Oh,
that we did.
Okay.
Uh,
over the weekend.
Okay.
Over the race weekend.
It was a full 24 hour race.
Uh huh.
And this is how our race went.
Okay.
This is the real race report.
JPEG.
Yeah.
Real race report.
JPEG.
Ah,
for the audio listeners.
It's our buddy Chris's Blackstone that he brought and a
full English breakfast being cooked atop it.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
We got,
we got our hashbrowns.
We got our,
we got our mushrooms.
We got our tomatoes.
We got bacon and sausage.
Uh huh.
We got the baked beans.
I'm toasting up some bread.
The eggs are about to happen.
Yup.
Um,
Yeah.
I,
I partook.
I,
I did beans on toast.
Yeah.
Even though,
I will say,
I mean,
Not to toot my own horn,
but toot,
toot motherfuckers.
This was delicious.
Well,
you have a lot of toot tooting to do,
but I like,
I ate a lot of beans.
Yeah.
Go figure us being,
combining an RV after a full English breakfast was something we really,
huh?
Seems like the guys are hanging outside a lot.
Yeah.
I wonder why.
Yeah.
Um,
but yeah,
I,
I have never had a full English breakfast and I did partake in beans on,
on toast and,
uh,
I'm,
I'm one of those weirdos that like,
if I have oatmeal with like some milk in it,
I dip my toast into it.
I'll dip my toast into the cereal milk.
I like soggy bread.
Okay.
And I wasn't sure.
I know, right?
That's not a,
no,
uh,
eat some pans and Ella,
like the Italian thing with the olive oil,
the salad.
Sure.
Grusty bread.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
So soggy bread is,
is okay with me.
Um,
not a huge tomato
beanish
fan,
but it was good.
Yeah.
I really enjoyed it.
So now I got a will actually,
yeah.
Cause this was not quite a full English because we were missing a key
ingredient,
which is the blood sausage,
right?
Which is delicious.
I will hear no blood sausage.
I though a full English breakfast is like,
like I'm a ride or die Mediterranean region foodie.
Yes.
Yes.
You know,
like everything in Italy
for you,
if you pick a region,
that's what it's going to be.
If it touches the Mediterranean,
I'm eating it.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
Whereas I'm like,
if it touches the Missouri river,
I'm eating it.
Right.
So a full English breakfast is one of the world's greatest
delicacies.
I'm,
I'm convinced.
Yeah.
I think I can see where you're coming from with that,
especially because anything that has that quantity of
components to do it all correctly.
Right.
You know,
that that shows skill.
Right.
And so I think you guys did a great job.
Thank you.
Yeah.
You did a great job.
Right.
But Chris,
who has the Blackstone,
like and brought all the ingredients and brought all the
ingredients.
There was a cycle.
Like there was an Ian,
like passing Chris and taking the reins at the
Blackstone.
And I told,
I apologized as I was doing it.
And I know that I do this.
And it's not,
it's a,
it's a character flaw of mine that whenever there's a
group setting and cooking is happening,
I end up worming my way in because I like to cook for
crowd for people.
I legitimately enjoy it.
And you're a good cook too.
So there's that.
Yeah.
And I was just like,
and at one point there was an offer to drive the
broken car or cook breakfast.
And I chose breakfast.
You kept cooking.
I kept cooking.
So that's how much I enjoy cooking that I,
that I,
I turned down driving a race car briefly.
Right.
For doing something else.
Yes.
Yes.
So this,
this,
this,
I think what this represents.
Right.
Was the highlight of the weekend.
Right.
Because I think like tag yourself.
Right.
In this picture.
We're all representative of this team.
I'm the potatoes.
Right.
Uh-huh.
You know,
and we all work really well together.
We do.
We do.
We,
we work very well together.
We make quite the plate.
Now,
now the one thing that's not.
Tagged in this photo.
And didn't work well with us this weekend.
It's the goddamn car.
Right.
We,
we started off very strong climbing positions.
Our fastest driver Chad was at the helm.
Knocking fools down left and right,
putting down 232 laps after lap,
after lap in the car,
crushing it,
shifting gears like a boss.
And then.
We should explain,
we should explain a couple of things.
First of all,
a 232 is not a fast lap
around high blades raceway.
But.
In a two liter Volkswagen at 5,000 feet in the air,
it is.
Right.
It's not bad.
And especially if you can do it consistently,
if you can do that for 24 hours,
you are.
In the cat bird seat for.
The lower.
Level because we were in class C,
which is the lowest class.
Yes.
And also the previous race,
if you are just joining us.
In June.
We had an issue where the re,
rear main seal on the two dots low was leaking.
And it was leaking oil onto the clutch.
And it turns out that friction,
friction surfaces don't.
Like lubricants.
Yeah.
And so we couldn't keep the clutch.
The clutch couldn't contain the massive 90 horsepower.
From the two dot to that.
Oh, and we were slipping the clutch all over the place.
And so we end up driving the whole race and fourth gear.
Right.
Which worked, but was very slow.
Correct.
And so this race is the full 24 hours.
We've replaced the rear main seal.
We did with the aftermarket ECS,
rear main seal housing and like the proper spring seal,
because I think the stock Volkswagen ones don't have
like the internal spring to keep stuff toy.
And a new clutch.
And a new clutch, new flywheel.
Mm hmm.
Yep.
And so Chad started off.
Mm hmm.
We, he got probably.
Three quarters of the way through his stint.
Yeah.
I think that he did report a very initial slip or two
because we were thinking the clutch was breaking in.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And then everything was fine.
Mm hmm.
He was getting faster and faster.
And we went from 40 something to 20 something.
We were fourth or fifth in our class.
We were lower than that because we had a really shit start.
Remember like this, the, we got the green flag.
Yes.
Oh, you weren't that you were, you were back in every mess with
the tech stuff, but we saw where he, where the green flag
dropped.
He was in turn two.
Oh.
So he was basically at the very end of the lead lap.
Yes.
We lost like 15 places right off the hop.
And that was just because of where, because they do like
a random, they pick a random car.
Okay.
Because they have everyone circulate for a couple laps
before just to make sure all the transponders work and all
that.
Okay.
And then they pick a random car and they're like, okay,
you're going to be the lead car for the lead lap.
Okay.
And it just so happened that Chad was in turn two.
Oh.
So like at the very tail of it.
Yes.
So we were, you know, two some minutes behind the
leader.
Yeah.
Um, and, but, you know, we were like, he was
really consistent.
Lots of cars fell off, you know, in the lemon's race
like lots cars break immediately.
Yeah.
Or have arrived broken.
Um, we took our time.
We took our time.
We got there.
We did.
We did revert to our natural broken state.
Mm hmm.
Like I mean, like moments before he reported the
clutch was slipping again.
We were having a pow wow about fuel strategy.
That's how good we were feeling.
Yes.
My tech stuff had fallen on his face.
I had a bunch of tech issues that I've never had
before.
I said that this is our competitive race.
We're not sacrificing him coming in for me to
reboot a PC or anything like that.
We're going to prioritize lap time over everything
else.
Yeah.
So that conversation happened between you and I.
Mm hmm.
You know, you were good in talking to me about
the tech stuff.
Like we were working through stuff mentally together.
And then you had the conversation about fuel
strategy.
Yep.
Right.
And then the clutch started slipping and it was
slipping so bad that we couldn't even just like
leave it in gear.
Yeah.
So he brought it in.
Mm hmm.
We did some investigation.
Yeah.
I drove it around the paddock.
Uh huh.
It seemed fine.
They went back out and it was fine.
Right.
Or about what, 20 minutes?
Yeah, 20 minutes or so, yeah.
So we basically had a very expensive track day.
Well, yeah, we should say that that process
repeated itself as long as we cared to do it.
Right.
So we basically were running 20 minute sessions
like he would in a track day.
Right.
Um, and, uh, we at one point thought we had
figured it out that it was Chad and figured out
that maybe it could be the clutch cable.
Right.
So you and Chad mostly swapped the clutch cable.
Yes.
I angled myself upside down into the car.
I think I have that photo.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Did I show you that?
Did you see that?
You did.
Yes.
It's great.
I love it.
Yeah.
I had a little bit of a panic moment, um, because, uh, I
could not extract myself from the car.
Working under a dashboard sucks.
Working under a dashboard with a roll cage is even worse.
Um, and here I am in the car upside down.
There's six, four.
Yes.
Damn near impossible.
Yeah.
The back of my knees are over the driver's headrest.
Mm hmm.
And I could not push myself back up in a way that got my hips
over the roll cage for me to get out.
So Chad literally had to grab both of my legs and pull me.
And like, and at one point like he pulled and then stopped
and I was like, no, no, no, keep pulling.
And he had to yank me.
Oh, like my hips over the roll cage.
And then out of nowhere, yakini sex started playing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, so we replaced the clutch cable.
Turns out the clutch cable replacement is garbage because
the spring in it kept binding cause it's like one of those
auto adjust ones saw like the sob ones that I had were
never auto adjust and like they didn't know.
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
So like the cable kept binding on this internal spring.
Yeah.
It's supposed to like, let the cable band, but that like the,
there, I think the spring inside was either broken into two pieces
or there were like, there was a way for something to kind of overlap.
And we could, I could mess with the spring as it went right to
the transmission and it would, the clutch would free up.
And so.
Well, yeah.
And the, the feel through the pedal was like it was in a
ball pit or something.
Like it was just like, it was just very lumpy.
Yeah.
I would say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's because of that cable drag.
Yeah.
And cable operated clutch through some really shitty housing
and springs and stuff.
Yeah.
So it made it worse.
Yeah.
Made the problem.
It didn't fix the slipping issue.
Also, guess what piece you have to take out to get to a
clutch cable on a Volkswagen Cabrio?
The dashboard.
If you're thinking the gauge cluster in the dashboard,
you're right.
Yeah.
Cause that's where you have to go in through.
Like all the sobs that I had, it was down the clutch,
the clutch cable attached to the clutch.
Right.
The clutch pedal.
Yeah.
And this did, but like there was this big offset piece up
top, like this big rocker arm.
And yeah.
Like sob was like, no, you build up your fucking quads.
Right.
And Volkswagen is like, no, like, you know,
a six year old could push this in and be just.
That's true.
I mean, you're, yeah.
The sob clutch feel is definitely much harder.
Yeah.
Than the Volkswagen one.
But I'll be stuck in traffic and the fiat and be like,
oh my God, this is so much easier than it was in the sob.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So then eventually like, so that was at about
we got that back together.
11.
Around 11 30 11 11 30.
Then I went out.
Well, tell people what you told me and what you told Chris
before you went out.
I don't remember.
What did I say?
You told me to go the fuck to sleep.
Oh, I did tell you to go the fuck to sleep.
Yes.
Because you were getting real punchy.
I was.
And I could tell it.
And I was holding back sassiness and punchiness.
I was holding back and a little bit was cracking through.
I will say you were not doing a good job.
Do you remember anything I said?
I don't know.
It was, I, it was, I could see it in your face.
Oh, I had a look.
The, the creep keeper look that I have now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, and then you, uh, I can't remember what it was you said,
but you said something and it was more the way you said it.
And I was like, Oh, Dave needs some sleep.
Like immediately.
And like, I got, as I was strapping into the car,
I grabbed Chris and I was like, make sure he goes to sleep.
Uh-huh.
You had my dad, my, my daddy make sure that I went to sleep.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um, so.
Another picture from this weekend I have.
This is what you guys served me for breakfast.
That morning real quick.
Speaking of, Oh, it's a, how did I make a movie?
Oh, anyway, it was the eggs and sausage you gave me on McPlade.
Oh, right.
Um, but then, so then I got in the car.
Around 1130, I guess.
And I drove for probably 30, 35 minutes.
It was kind of rainy and greasy.
Yeah.
And at night, which was really fun.
Like I, I like a low grip sort of situation.
Yeah.
It's fun.
Um, and so the lap times were real slow, but we were,
I was also like trying to feel out the car and everything else.
And you were pulling the clutch pedal up with the,
with your, the top of your shoe too.
Yes.
It was binding.
Yeah.
So I was my clutch, my operation was clutch in,
shift, toe under, pull up.
For every shift, nearly every shift.
Yeah.
I was going to send you out there with bungee cords between the dash
and the clutch to keep it up.
It really, it wasn't, it was manageable.
Like how, at one point I was like, well,
if this is the hardest thing I have to do, right.
That's, this is manageable.
Yeah.
Like as long as the clutch starts working.
And then at one point, probably 20 minutes in,
I had like a weird, the RPM,
wandered just a little bit in third gear.
Okay.
And I was like, what?
That's weird.
And so I was like, okay, I'm going to,
I'm going to like keep an eye on that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're doing like the two fingers to the eyes thing to you.
And that was it.
And then maybe a lap later hit the cliff and just,
just the worst clutch slip I've ever had.
And then even coming into I stalled the car
because I put the clutch in all the way to the floor
and it didn't disengage fully.
Right.
Right.
So I don't know if that's the clutch cable issues or
It was a clutch cable binding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like it was well and truly broken by the end of my stint.
And then we decided to get some sleep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we all went to sleep.
Dave, I think you slept for like nine hours.
I slept until seven 30 in the morning.
I will.
First of all, that bed is plywood and I forgot about it.
I ended up having to make myself like a,
basically like a giant worm pillow,
like a fold.
Like I folded comforters over into thirds.
And then I,
I essentially made a twin mattress out of comforters.
That's on top of that bed and slept because before that,
I was waking up every 20 minutes with a different part of my body
screaming out of pain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I remember at one point I walked in in the morning when
we were trying to like get kind of get rolling and get the
car going and stuff.
And I had been avoiding walking in because I didn't want to
wake you up.
And I had to get something out of the other guy.
So I walked in and I looked,
I glanced over and you were like full like toddler,
like giant toddler face down on the bed.
And I was like, oh my God, he is out.
I have a stomach sleeper.
I sleep on my stomach a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think like you had come in,
you had gone to sleep for a while in the RV and left.
And I didn't know.
Yeah.
I woke up in a full panic thinking that I had like massively
overslept and everyone had been working on the car for hours
or whatever.
Okay.
Yeah.
It was probably 530 when I woke up.
Yeah.
So I, and I was out before by six, I was out like,
you know, contacts in and all that.
And then I got out and Chad had done some work in the
middle of the night, like he had woken up in the middle
of the night and like done a little bit of work to try to
fix the clutch cable.
Yeah.
Because we got up and the dash was out.
Okay.
And Chris had just woken up,
I think and was like wandering around.
One quick story.
I, so mental friend of the show and, you know,
personal friend was, was one of the judges this weekend
at 6am.
I wandered over there to go talk to them.
And it was right as the sun was coming up,
but it was still kind of like rainy and greasy out.
And so they had been busy all night because it rained
overnight.
And so we were, we were talking and a black,
someone came in for a black flag.
And I don't remember where Steve was, but they,
they came, they got black flag for a four off.
Okay.
And they, their defense was, well, I didn't have four
off.
It was, I only had three off.
And they left.
And I, I had overheard it and I went to mental.
I was like, yeah, like that's worse.
Right.
Yeah.
That means that they're like turned.
Sideways.
Yeah.
You're like, you get how that's worse.
Right.
Yeah.
But they were like, no, this is home base.
Right.
I'm still safe.
Right.
I'm touching, I'm touching the floor that's touching
the post that's touching the wall.
Only three off.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean three is less than four.
Right.
Yeah.
That bad.
Yeah.
So then, yeah.
So then we went back.
We got Chris in the car.
He went out and it was basically undraftable.
Yeah.
And then by the end of his stint, we couldn't
even get it into gear.
Yeah.
So we decided to make breakfast.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
Yep.
Yeah.
And we should mention the race is going on during
all of this.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
No idea who won.
Right.
We were in our own little, yeah.
Our own, you know, our own little world of our
own making.
Right.
Yeah.
So how are you feeling about this?
You know, yeah.
It's tough.
So I think that like we're going to have some
changes on the liminsteam.
We don't know what's going to happen.
Yeah.
You know, like there's some stuff up in the air,
but like, I think at the end of the day,
I'm very, very happy that we have a group of
guys, the five of us, you know,
that are so connected and so collaborative.
And like really, we work really well together.
And I'm very thankful for that.
And I know that none of us are going anywhere.
And we're going to keep working together on whatever
it is.
And so I'm doing okay, you know,
but I think that like to see,
to see us take like,
I think to make these changes,
to have the healthiest approach coming up to a
race, still not being able to squeeze in,
track days and testing time before the race.
Like granted,
we weren't pulling consecutive all-nighters
before the race.
We weren't swapping engines.
Obviously unprepared because the car was still
unprepared.
Right.
All the weekends and all that stuff that we,
we gave up for the car.
We had,
we had to do more.
Right.
And we didn't do enough.
And so I think that like the reality of that
hitting,
that,
that quantity of work and time versus what it took
away from us,
what we could have been doing,
I think is something that I've been thinking about a
lot, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's very true.
I think that the one,
and we talked about this before the show a little
bit,
but the one thing that like I keep thinking about
is just how nice,
how great this team is to be able to do
great.
This team is together.
Yeah.
And like really and truly like I've raced with a
bunch of,
a bunch of different people and a bunch of different
teams.
And I've never like,
there's always been at least like one,
you know,
not even,
not even like problem person on a team,
but like there's always some,
someone with a bigger personality to manage
or a bigger ego to manage or whatever on a
team or someone whose decision making isn't,
you know,
or it's just not on the same page even,
you know,
even if it's just that,
even if you all get along,
but someone has a different idea about what this
race is going to be than,
than everybody else.
Like there was none of that.
Right.
And we had so many like moments of hope and
like,
and our race being blown around by
circumstances and everybody just went
together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we had this,
we had like minor like,
Hey,
I think this is a good idea.
No,
I think this is a good idea,
but we were able to like talk it out without
ego and like the best idea went out and
that was it.
Like it wasn't,
there was no like backbiting or anything
and like the,
the one of the best things the whole weekend to
me was the trackwalk.
Yeah.
Where,
yeah,
you didn't get to go because you were prepping
tech stuff.
Right.
But it was the four of us drivers,
the two Chris's and Chad and myself.
We walked around the track,
which is something I've never gotten to do
at High Plants before.
Yeah,
I've never done a trackwalk.
Yeah.
And we were just like comparing notes about,
you know,
questions that we have for each other or
whatever.
And,
and it was just really collaborative and
collegiate and like,
we weren't,
you know,
like nobody,
there was no like dick measuring,
which is a thing that happens a lot around
race car people.
And there was just like none of that,
which was just amazing to see like four
dudes.
Yeah.
You know,
right?
Go figure.
Forward.
Nice guys walking around a track.
Yeah.
Yeah,
it was awesome.
I really,
really enjoyed that.
And I learned,
I like,
I took stuff like that Chad was saying,
I was like,
oh,
I need to like try to like,
you know,
modify my line to meet what he was
suggesting.
And then I think he did the same,
because I think we have different areas
where we're stronger.
Yeah.
Around the track.
So it was,
it was really cool.
Yeah.
So great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like,
we're going through the idea to reality
reconciliation, right?
And I think that like,
I think part of us maturing,
and I think that I've really seen this in
both of us is like,
how we deal with that idea to reckon,
that idea to reality reconciliation,
you know,
right.
And how we handle that.
And I think that like,
I think that you and I have both like,
really made some strides in how we handle
that, like with each other,
with our own stuff,
like that kind of stuff,
you know,
and I think that like,
that's one of the things that we're going
through now,
you know,
because I think for a lot of times,
it can be a really crushing thing,
a very paralyzing thing.
And a period in,
in like kind of an event in someone's
life where things can,
without any kind of
ill intent or anything like that,
things can genuinely
take a worse path,
you know,
and I don't think that we're,
I don't think that we're doing any of that,
you know,
I think that like we're,
we're all like trying to focus
and,
and just kind of take a step back
and take a healthy approach
and think about things,
you know,
know that we genuinely really like working together,
you know,
yeah,
yeah,
we like each other
and we like working together.
So,
yeah,
it's,
it's tough,
you know,
it's tough.
So,
racing.
So yeah,
so now we have two broken race cars.
Yeah,
I think buying a third is probably the,
we're like the,
the shitty couple that keeps having kids
to try to save the marriage.
Yeah.
Right.
That's what we need to do.
Oh my God,
they're pregnant again?
Right.
He was cheating on her last week.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll,
we'll see.
Right.
More to come,
hopefully.
Yeah.
Yeah,
more to come.
So,
yeah.
Lemons.
I did,
I did some brief brewery rooms.
Two very short stints.
You did.
And I got to cook on a flat top,
which I've never done before.
Yeah,
I was going to say like you're going to add that flat top to your cart
pretty quick.
I really want one down.
It was really fun.
I like,
I think it like a reverse seared steak,
like you oven that thing and then you hit that thing on the flat top
for that final sear.
That's perfect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice.
Um,
would you like a license plate game?
I would love a license plate game.
Yeah.
Please give me a license plate game.
Okay.
Okay.
This one is called that's Mr.
license plate to you.
Okay.
All right.
There's a theme.
Let's see if you can pick up on it.
I think I know what it is already.
Can I guess it?
Sure.
Toyota MR2s.
You are incorrect.
Oh,
you threw me off.
He capitalized the MR in the file name.
Okay.
All right.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Oh,
okay.
Here we go.
So up top we have a silver Ford fusion.
Like you do.
Um,
then you have a white,
a white Rivian pickup truck,
the R1T.
And then you have a Ford transit connect.
Yeah.
Down at the bottom.
And the license plates are Mr.
Bean,
Mr.
EAN,
Mr.
Lane,
L.
A.
N.
E.
And Mr.
Shart.
Or Mrs.
Shart.
I want this to be Mr.
Mr.
Shart.
Oh, badly.
I hope Mr.
Shart.
Okay.
All right.
We're doing some zoomies and enhances because I,
there's got to be something here.
Okay.
The person in the Ford fusion has a CUNY Lexus license plate
frame.
Yes.
So they bought it used from the Lexus dealer.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
All right.
Then we have a Rivian on a home charger.
And they have a Colorado Buffs license plate frame,
some tinted windows and the,
uh,
ski rack,
ski rack wedges.
Uh, yeah.
Um, on the,
on the back,
there's an Audi,
a,
uh,
no,
Audi,
RQS maybe.
It looks like the hot it up one.
Could be.
Yeah.
Right.
Like a Q five maybe.
Okay.
In the parking lot with it.
And then we have the Ford transit connectors from
groove auto groove auto.com.
Um,
is like the dealer plate frame.
Okay.
And it has not a lot to go on.
No,
but no back windows.
So it is definitely like a work truck as this is a
tradie mobile.
And you know,
I love one thing.
I love cost,
abducting children.
No,
I don't want to give the kids the candy.
I eat the candy.
Okay.
Then the kids get mad and leave.
Um,
I love cost playing as a tradie.
I've had the luxury of doing it a few times in my life.
Uh,
I feel like I have all the tradie stuff and I like
what I get to use it.
And,
uh,
you know,
my fancy tradie pants that Peter got me.
Yep.
And,
uh, I just,
I love it.
So I love,
I love being a pretend tradie.
Okay.
All right.
So I'm going,
I'm going Mr. Lane
for the Ford.
Oh, I mean for the fusion.
Okay.
I'm going Mr. Bean
for the Rivian because I think that they think that's funny.
Okay.
And I'm going Mr.
Chart for the van and I'm hoping it's a plumber.
Or a dry cleaner.
Or a dry cleaner.
Plumbers, dry cleaners and proctologists all have the same
sense of humor.
Well,
a similar like confluence of,
of customers.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You see one,
you see them,
and then you see them.
Yeah.
Uh huh.
So that's,
that's my hope.
That's what I hope this is.
I'm not calling it a guess.
That's what I hope this is in my heart of hearts.
In my shard of shards.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
That's Mr.
license plate game to you.
All right.
Here we go.
I got one.
I got one.
I got Mr.
Lane on the Ford fusion because that seems right.
Then Mr.
Chart on the rivi.
You saw the rivi and Peter said it's Mr.
Bean on the transit connect.
Yes.
Uh huh.
Okay.
And it's.
Thank you, Peter.
I think your instinct on Mr.
Lane was dead odd because.
Yeah.
The person who goes to a Lexus dealer.
Uh huh.
And ends up with a Ford fusion.
100% has their legal name on their license.
Yes.
Yes.
They do.
Yes.
With formal title.
Yes.
Right.
Yeah.
And then Mr.
Chart or Mrs.
Hart.
And somebody at the DMV had to tell you or you would be in a
dick to them and they just let it go through.
Right.
Yeah.
They weren't going to be like, did you know that like this
could be read as.
Because if you, if you were to the DMV and somebody like you
could tell somebody did not know.
Like, hey, like you would do that.
Right.
Yeah.
Like, you know how people are going to read this.
Right.
Could you imagine the anxiety of not telling like somebody to
seem like a nice person?
No.
On the other hand, if someone was being an asshole.
Right.
Right.
And you were like, yeah, let me get that plate.
Right.
Right for you.
I'm going to act.
You know what?
I'm going to exit.
I think we can get this for you today.
Because normally there's an approval process.
We're going to bypass that.
You know that that time window is time that other people
could be telling them and you're going to make that as
short as possible.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yep.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Thank you, Peter for Mr. Bean.
Dave, how about we wrap it up with an album of the week?
I have one quick thing to show you before the album.
And this is.
I mean, you were yawning.
So I was.
This is from our dear friend, Jesse, but I think that
this is going to be quick.
I think that Jesse has understood, come to understand
that her dad is the absolute antithesis of your dad.
Bam.
Oh, yeah.
Dual CRX.
Dual baby blue Honda CRX is man.
Oh man, those are beautiful.
Right.
I love a CRX so much.
Right.
Yeah.
I think if your dad and Jesse's dad like met each other,
it'd be a matter, antimatter explosion.
Well, no, you said that, but again, my uncle had.
Many, many multiple.
Sure.
Sure.
Right.
We're not talking about your uncle.
We're talking about your father.
I like how you're like, no, someone with someone with
Honda sensibility was near hit by Bob.
Right.
Fair point.
No shade on your dad because he has some cool
ass cars.
Right.
But I don't know if you could find more polar opposites
than CRX and Quadrafied Glio at an Aston Martin.
Yeah.
That's true.
And one of the CRX's is on Steelys.
It is.
It is.
You know what?
One of these cars has never had to happen to it.
The start button get pushed into the dash to the
point you couldn't get it started because you couldn't
reach the start button because it went inside the dashboard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That happened to the Aston.
Uh-huh.
By a valet, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a valet at the airport.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, yeah.
Two people having fun going about it two very different
ways and I'm here for both of it and I'm here for these
Hondas.
Thank you.
Those are very clean Hondas.
Love them.
Right.
Thank you, Jesse, for sending this.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Let me see if she said anything else about the picture.
But let's see here.
Yeah.
So I think that's about it.
Yeah.
But I want to show you that.
So thank you for sending that in, Jesse.
Yeah.
Excellent.
Um, now shall we wrap it up with an album of the week?
I want to like my, uh, a band that I really,
uh, like kind of punk band started as kind of a punk band.
And then they took like a weird left turn a little bit a while
back.
Um, the black lips, they're coming out with a new record.
It should be out in the next week or so I think.
Um, but I want to just start.
I'm getting, I'm getting excited for this new record
because I've heard a couple of songs off of it and I
think it sounds good.
So I'm going to go with, um, their 2011 album,
Arabia Mountain.
Okay.
Maybe I've done this one before.
I don't think you have.
So the story behind this one is that they were this like
really kind of like in your face punk band.
Um, and then, but they selected Mark Ronson,
like the pop producer.
Yeah.
Like from like Amy Winehouse and stuff.
Yeah.
Um, and then they produced this record.
And so it has this really unique.
Sound and energy and it's sort of been their vibe ever since.
Okay.
Um, where there's still very shouty and in your face,
but like with this like kind of retro 60s ish garage.
Sort of thing going on.
Okay.
Um, pop sensibilities.
Yeah.
It's really, really good.
Okay.
Um, so yeah, this is my,
this is my pick for album a week.
Nice.
I will check this out.
Yeah.
It's like a great record.
Okay.
Nice.
Huh.
Okay.
Right on.
Also the first record,
I think you've recommended that has a naked lady on the
cover.
Really?
The first one?
Yeah, I think so.
That can't be true.
Well, you've never recommended Ritual De La Habitual.
That's true.
Yeah.
I'm going to have a better job of that.
I'm sorry.
Or, uh, Surferosa,
you haven't recommended that one either.
Yeah.
Those are the only other two albums that I know that have
naked ladies on the cover.
I'm sure there's way more.
There are so many more.
So many more.
Yeah.
I'm just going to do nothing but Herb Albert,
and then see you want to brass them now on.
Yeah.
Those have a bunch?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Um,
well,
listen to this.
Yeah, definitely.
Dave, what else should people do?
Um,
they should send us pictures of Hondas that they like
for Hondas we're here for.
They should send us,
uh, their cars for shows, your cars 2025,
a year in show where we will talk about your car.
If you send us pictures of it.
Um,
send those to apexadjacent at gmail.com.
Um,
let's see here.
License plate pics.
Yeah.
7205151391 or send them to me on blue sky.
Yep.
Yep.
And we,
uh,
next week,
we're going to talk about something that we really liked,
uh,
that you brought to my attention and that happened in the,
uh,
SCCA autocross community.
Yes.
Really looking forward to talking about that more next,
next week because it's something that I've been thinking about a lot.
Uh, great story coming out of, uh,
kind of the SCCA and autocross community.
And, uh, the kind of stuff you want to see.
So yeah,
a lot of folks may already know what we're talking about,
but yeah,
I'm looking forward to digging into that next week.
You know what I love?
A teaser for next week.
Love it.
Love it.
Everybody.
Thank you.
We love you.
Goodbye.
Yeah.
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