A lively discussion unfolds as Ian and Dave connect over parenting experiences and the joys of car ownership, particularly focusing on Dave's new Lexus GSF. They share personal stories about Waffle House, ranking diner chains, and the unique car culture surrounding these iconic establishments. The episode takes a humorous turn as they debate the merits of various vehicles while exploring the intricacies of driving dynamics and personal comfort levels. Nostalgia kicks in with a mention of their favorite albums from 2005, making for a heartfelt and engaging conversation.
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"I said, like, yes, you can come over to see the GSF if you sit down to do a show with me."
The Lexus GSF is a sportier version of the Lexus GS, which is a luxury sedan. It has a strong engine and is built for better performance while still being comfortable to drive.
The Lexus GSF is a high-performance variant of the Lexus GS sedan, featuring a powerful V8 engine and sport-tuned suspension for enhanced driving dynamics. It's designed to compete with other luxury sports sedans, offering both comfort and performance.
"My wife and I drove up there yesterday because she's looking at a new RX 350H, which I think the 350H is actually better than her older 450H."
The Lexus RX 350h is a type of luxury SUV that uses both gas and electricity to run, making it more efficient. It's designed for comfort and style, while also being better for the environment than regular gas cars.
The Lexus RX 350h is a hybrid luxury SUV that combines performance with fuel efficiency. It features a gasoline engine paired with an electric motor, providing a smooth and powerful driving experience while also being more environmentally friendly than traditional gas-only vehicles.
"the 350H is actually better than her older 450H. Okay."
The Lexus RX 450h is an older model of the same luxury SUV that also uses both gas and electricity. It was popular for its comfort and efficiency but is not as updated as the newer RX 350h.
The Lexus RX 450h is an earlier hybrid version of the RX series, known for its blend of luxury and efficiency. It features a similar hybrid powertrain but may not have the same advancements in technology and performance as the newer RX 350h.
"...He and his family did tons of road trips. Honda Odyssey, I think I told you like 200 something insane 1000 miles on it."
The Honda Odyssey is a type of family car called a minivan. It's designed to be very comfortable and has a lot of space for people and luggage, making it great for long trips.
The Honda Odyssey is a minivan known for its spacious interior, family-friendly features, and reliability. It's a popular choice for families due to its seating capacity and comfort during long road trips.
"More stancy. Like they were, they were kind of prioritizing the looks rather than daily driving comfort."
Stanced means a car is modified to look lower and sportier, often with wider tires. While it looks cool, it can make the ride less comfortable.
Stanced refers to a style of car modification where the vehicle is lowered and often has wider wheels and tires, prioritizing aesthetics over practicality. This can lead to a more aggressive look but may compromise ride comfort.
"And those tires were definitely stretched on there. They were."
Stretched tires are when a tire is fitted onto a wider wheel than it’s meant for, making the tire look thinner. This can look cool but might not grip the road as well.
Stretched tires refer to a tire that is mounted on a wheel that is wider than the tire's intended width, creating a visually appealing but potentially less functional setup. This can affect grip and handling.
"At that ride height and with those wheels and tires and stuff, but you know, yeah, your boy needs a bit of squish."
Ride height is how high or low a car sits from the ground. Lowering it can make the car look better but might make it less comfortable to drive.
Ride height refers to the distance between the ground and the lowest point of a vehicle's body. Lowering the ride height can improve handling but may reduce comfort and practicality.
"...ulders are still real high. They're not, um, uh, Nissan Z. Right."
The Nissan Z is a sporty car that looks cool and goes really fast. It's part of a long line of cars from Nissan that people love for their performance and style.
The Nissan Z is a line of sports cars that has been a part of Nissan's heritage since the 1970s, with the latest model being the Nissan Z (also known as the 400Z). It combines modern performance and technology with classic design elements, making it a highly anticipated vehicle among car enthusiasts.
"So there's like, you have like your sport. Sport and sport plus. But then there is, so then you have like the differential settings, standard, slalom and track."
Sport Plus is a special driving setting in some cars that makes them faster and more fun to drive. It helps the car respond better when you press the gas pedal.
Sport Plus is a driving mode found in many performance-oriented vehicles that enhances throttle response and sharpens handling characteristics. It typically allows for more aggressive driving dynamics, making the car feel more responsive and sporty.
"But then there is, so then you have like the differential settings, standard, slalom and track. And then you have your traction control."
Differential settings are options in a car that change how power goes to the wheels. Different settings help the car drive better in different situations, like on a track or in a tight turn.
Differential settings refer to the adjustments made to the vehicle's differential, which controls how power is distributed to the wheels. Different settings like standard, slalom, and track optimize performance for various driving conditions, enhancing traction and handling.
"And then you have your traction control. And like I've read the manual a couple of times about this part mainly because I'd like, I wanted to make sure that like when I went over to sport plus, like it wasn't turning"
Traction control is a system in cars that helps the wheels grip the road better, especially when it's slippery. It stops the wheels from spinning too much when you accelerate.
Traction control is a safety feature in vehicles that helps prevent wheel spin during acceleration. It works by reducing engine power or applying brakes to specific wheels to maintain grip on slippery surfaces.
"you need to focus on the tack, which is hilarious, right? But on that kind of bottom sliver where it has those things carved out in the manual, it has a picture of it and it says expert there..."
A tachometer shows how fast the engine is spinning. It helps drivers know when to change gears to keep the car running well.
A tachometer, often referred to as a 'tack', measures the engine's RPM (revolutions per minute). It helps drivers understand how hard the engine is working and when to shift gears for optimal performance.
"Like when I drove that Mercedes around the track, the C63."
The Mercedes-Benz C63 is a fast and powerful version of the regular C-Class car. It's designed for people who want a mix of luxury and speed.
The Mercedes-Benz C63 is a high-performance variant of the C-Class, known for its powerful V8 engine and sporty handling. It's popular among enthusiasts for its blend of luxury and performance.
"...if I had an open track or a skid pad or something like that where it's like autocross where it's like, okay, I know in these conditions..."
Autocross is a type of car racing where you drive through a course marked by cones. It's not about racing against other cars at the same time, but rather about completing the course as quickly as you can by yourself.
Autocross is a timed competition in which drivers navigate one at a time through a defined course on either a sealed or unsealed surface. It emphasizes precision and car control rather than speed, making it a popular motorsport for enthusiasts.
"...did it come with all the OEM parts and like,..."
OEM parts are the original parts that come with a car when it's made. They're made by the same company that built the car, so they usually fit better and work well.
OEM parts refer to Original Equipment Manufacturer parts, which are components made by the same company that manufactured the original parts for the vehicle. These parts are typically considered to be of higher quality and fit than aftermarket alternatives.
"...we have a BMW as a 328. I in white. And then we have a Chevy Equinox."
The BMW 328i is a car that combines sporty performance with luxury. It's part of the BMW 3 Series, which is well-regarded for its driving experience.
The BMW 328i is a model from BMW's 3 Series, known for its sporty performance and luxury features. It's popular among enthusiasts for its balance of power and handling.
The Chevrolet Equinox is a compact SUV that offers a lot of space and comfort, making it a good option for families or anyone needing to carry more stuff.
The Chevrolet Equinox is a compact SUV known for its practicality and comfort. It's a popular choice for families and those needing extra cargo space.
"And a Lexus GS 350. The generation right before mine, I think."
The Lexus GS 350 is a luxury car that is comfortable and has a powerful engine. It's known for being reliable and has a nice interior.
The Lexus GS 350 is a luxury sedan that offers a blend of performance and comfort. It features a V6 engine and is known for its reliability and upscale interior.
The Lexus GS is a luxury car that is comfortable and good for driving. It's similar to other high-end cars like the BMW 5 Series.
The Lexus GS is a mid-size luxury sedan known for its comfort and performance. It has been a part of Lexus's lineup since the late 1990s and is often compared to other luxury sedans like the BMW 5 Series.
"And I want to go, I am late on the BMW because I think that I am late on the BMW."
BMW is a well-known car brand from Germany that makes sporty and luxury cars. They are popular for their performance and driving experience.
BMW is a German automotive brand known for its sporty and luxury vehicles. The brand has a strong reputation for performance and driving dynamics, often appealing to enthusiasts.
"...our buddy Mark saw a really cool like Land Cruiser kind of truck when he and his wife were traveling. Check this shit out, man. Look at that."
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a strong and reliable SUV that can handle rough roads and off-road driving. Many people like it for its ability to go anywhere and last a long time.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a rugged SUV known for its off-road capabilities and durability. It's popular among adventurers and those needing a reliable vehicle for tough terrains.
"...there's a little Geo Metro with a big roll bar. Is that what I'm saying?"
The Geo Metro is a small, affordable car that was made to be very fuel-efficient. It's a good choice for people who want to save money on gas.
The Geo Metro is a subcompact car that was produced from 1989 to 2001. It is known for its fuel efficiency and compact size, making it popular among budget-conscious drivers.
"Oh, that's what it is. It's like a Volkswagen Rabbit. Like 1980, 82, somewhere in there."
The Volkswagen Rabbit is a small car made by Volkswagen in the late 1970s and early 1980s. It's known for being fun to drive and is often appreciated for its simple design.
The Volkswagen Rabbit is a compact car that was produced by Volkswagen from the mid-1970s to the early 1980s. It is known for its practicality and fun driving experience, making it a popular choice among enthusiasts.
"They have like a crazy WRX. I know. You couldn't even see that."
The Subaru WRX is a fast car that comes from a family of vehicles called the Impreza. It's designed for racing and has special features that help it grip the road better, especially in bad weather.
The Subaru WRX is a high-performance version of the Subaru Impreza, known for its rally heritage and all-wheel-drive capabilities. It's popular among car enthusiasts for its sporty handling and turbocharged engine.
"I'm sure the Subaru is great and all that, but yeah, I was on Instagram real speaking of Subaru..."
Subaru is a car brand from Japan that makes vehicles great for driving in tough conditions, like snow or off-road. They're known for being safe and reliable.
Subaru is a Japanese automotive brand known for its all-wheel-drive vehicles and rugged designs. They are popular among outdoor enthusiasts and are often associated with reliability and safety.
"And this Volkswagen Land Cruiser combo is like a great two car garage."
The Volkswagen Land Cruiser is a tough SUV that can handle rough roads and off-road adventures. It's a good option if you like outdoor activities and need a reliable vehicle.
The Volkswagen Land Cruiser is a popular SUV known for its off-road capabilities and durability. It's often associated with adventure and rugged terrain, making it a great choice for outdoor enthusiasts.
"...there was a lot of aftermarket work and a fucking hood exit for the turbo."
Aftermarket means parts or upgrades that you can add to a car after it has been made. They are not from the original car maker but can improve how the car looks or works.
Aftermarket refers to parts or modifications made to a vehicle that are not provided by the original manufacturer. These can enhance performance, aesthetics, or functionality.
"...a lady had a Subaru Forester and the hood was up and there was a lot of aftermarket work..."
The Subaru Forester is a small SUV that is great for driving in different weather conditions. It's known for being reliable and good for outdoor activities.
The Subaru Forester is a compact SUV known for its practicality and all-wheel-drive capabilities. It's popular among outdoor enthusiasts and has a reputation for reliability.
"...that's going to be 1300 horsepower. Oh, and then no spark."
Horsepower is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. The more horsepower an engine has, the faster and stronger it can be.
Horsepower is a unit of measurement for power, commonly used to describe the power output of engines. It indicates how much work an engine can perform over time, and higher horsepower typically means better performance.
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Let me stop you right there because I feel like you now have experienced something that
I've experienced having small children.
Oh, okay.
And now we can connect on this level because, you know, when you're growing up, before you
have kids, even as an adult, you know, people will come over to your house to see you.
Oh, okay.
Right?
Yes.
And then you have a baby.
Right.
And then a bunch of people show up and they don't give a fuck if you're there or not.
The way that I would be for someone else's pets.
Correct.
Yes.
They're like, yeah, move.
I'm here to see the dog.
I'm here to pet the dog.
Uh-huh.
And today you got a little taste of that because I came over to your house.
I'm in your house right now and frankly, I don't care to see you.
I gave you a condition.
I said, like, yes, you can come over to see the GSF if you sit down to do a show with
me.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But notice what we did first.
We did.
We did see the GSF, right?
Because you didn't want me to be like, oh, the show's run long and it's time for you
to go.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Right?
I am very glad that I came over.
I'm glad you came over too.
That car is amazing, Dave.
You did good.
Well, thank you.
I think that, you know, again, credit to my wife for inspiring me to seize the day because
life is short.
It's wild that I have a chance to do this.
Yeah.
Like I was telling you, like, it is not something that's very accessible to me, but like just
by the tips of my fingernails, I could acquire something like this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just, I don't know, like it's, I'm getting more comfortable with the car.
You know, I've driven it up to Frederick and back a couple times because, you know, they
did the alignment on it after I put it back on Stock Springs.
Right.
My wife and I drove up there yesterday because she's looking at a new RX 350H, which I think
the 350H is actually better than her older 450H.
Okay.
Like they, Lexus actually did a really good job with the 350H, but she had also never
been to Waffle House in her entire life.
Unexcept.
Well, we fixed that problem yesterday.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I grew up going to Waffle House with my dad when I was getting, my mom would never
go because she said it was filthy.
Right.
And it's like, that's part of the whole thing.
Right.
Yeah.
It's part of it.
And also it's filthy in the places where it's okay to be filthy.
Right.
It's clean in the places where it needs to be clean.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And I mean, so I mean, I never really went until, because I grew up in the North and we
didn't really have Waffle House.
We had Bob's Big Boy.
Yeah.
And we had Perkins.
Yes.
And we had, you know, all the other ones.
But like, so in my 20s, that's when I went to Waffle House for the first time.
Sure.
Okay.
This is really good.
It's the best.
It's so great.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes.
Let's rank, because I actually had this conversation.
I actually had this conversation the other week.
Okay.
Let's focus on what's important here.
Diner chains.
Yes.
Okay.
Right.
So that would include like your Denny's, your IHOPs, your Perkins, your Big Boys.
Where do you, where do you go?
Waffle House number one.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
Waffle House number one, obviously.
So I'm, I'm a breakfast 24 seven person.
Me too.
Yeah.
I can eat breakfast three meals a day and not have any issues.
Yes.
I agree.
Right.
Yeah.
So Waffle House, and that's a long shot, like second place in my opinion is real distant.
I agree.
I think you're right.
Because I think it's, it's Waffle House, whatever local diner you can, you land at.
Right.
Right.
And then for me Perkins.
Okay.
Yes.
I go Perkins next.
Yeah.
Perkins was our high school, post high school haunt.
Yes.
Like that was, that was where we would normally go to like meet up with other folks.
Yeah.
I had a lot of late nights in a 20, in 24 hour Perkins restaurants as well, like playing
chess and eating grilled cheese at 2 a.m. and you know, whatever.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So Perkins for me, second.
Yes.
And then it gets real dire, real quick.
Right.
Because we're not looking for Denny's IHOP village in like, oh, I forgot about village
in, okay.
So I'd go.
So did society.
Okay.
So I'd go, I would go probably Waffle House.
Right.
Perkins, big boy.
Okay.
I think Bob's big boy is good.
Yeah.
And then maybe Denny's IHOP village in.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm thinking Waffle House miles of distance and then I, yeah, like the local diner, like
you said, that's like the, the number two choice.
Right.
I think I might go IHOP more than Denny's.
Okay.
But I haven't been to a Denny's for a long time.
Okay.
Although I really do like saying Rudy, Tooty, Fresh and Fruity.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's pretty fun.
That's a good, a good menu item name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there used to be a Perkins here.
I don't know if we still have one.
I've no idea.
I haven't been to Perkins in forever.
Right.
Um, and then I mean, honestly, I'm kind of kicking them all to the side to get a McDonald's
breakfast.
Oh, yeah.
But you know what?
The thing about the American diner is the, the table cake, the cake, the pancakes for
the table.
Yes.
Pancakes for the table.
A pancake as like a shared place, I think is one of the more beautiful communal experiences
you can have as an American.
Right.
Everybody get in here.
Get it while it's hot.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rounded, rounded table cakes.
Yep.
At Waffle House yesterday, my wife and I shared the waffle, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Waffle or cake, either one in the middle of the table while you eat your eggs over
here, you don't get syrup on your eggs that way, which I'm actually okay with.
Oh, I don't, I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Um, but you would never do that with French toast.
You'd never get French toast for the table.
I'm like, this is my French toast.
Get the fuck out.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
But a big waffle or a pancake, a short stack of pancakes for the table.
Yeah.
That's just being friendly.
That's just getting this party started, baby.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do that.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So, yeah.
So we, we had her very first Waffle House experience, like, and then we were talking
last night about how you said that, you know, it was like a 10 AM Waffle House experience
versus the 2 AM Waffle House experience because there is having your first Waffle House experience
than there is having your first Waffle House experience.
Correct.
Correct.
Right.
Yes.
I feel like, like her, her record has an asterisk next to it.
Yes.
She's had Waffle House technically.
Technically, she hit those home runs, but we all know she cheated by going daylight
hours.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There is daylight as a performance enhancing drug for the Waffle House.
There is a hem attached to her Waffle House.
Right.
Rider.
Yeah.
I, it's, I, I, so I was telling her, I personally have never seen a fight in the Waffle House.
I've never seen anything crazy in a Waffle House myself.
Yeah.
You know, I think like the social media kind of like showing Waffle House kind of getting
unhinged after dark.
Yeah.
Like really came up like way past when I was haunting Waffle Houses at 2 AM in Missouri.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've definitely seen some stuff at a Waffle House.
I mean, I've seen multiple people asleep on the bar at Waffle House and I have seen
someone get kicked out of a Waffle House and get in a shouting match with, with a line
cook, which I can't imagine a worse, it's like heckling a professional comedian.
Right.
Right.
Like you're not going to do well.
You know what these people do for a living.
Right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's just not going to go well for you.
There's no way you like Bill Burr turned that audience as the person getting kicked
out.
Right.
Right.
Remember that Philadelphia show?
The Philadelphia show.
Yes.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Anybody who doesn't know what we're talking about needs to look up Bill Burr Philadelphia
because he shuts down an entire stadium of people that were heckling.
Like booing.
He was getting openly booed.
Yeah.
And then he turns it around.
This is like 10 years ago or something.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're right.
Once the Waffle House staff has turned on you, there's no getting it back.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And the benefits of being on the good side of the Waffle House staff, those are great
because every now and then extra food is accidentally made at Waffle House.
Correct.
This is a thing that happens not that infrequently.
Yeah.
And guess what?
If you are a regular, you tip well, whatever, they just bring you extra food because they
have to throw it away otherwise.
Yeah.
You know?
I like how we started the show with full intentions of talking about cars and we have talked for
it.
We've done a solid 20 on diners and Waffle House.
Well, I think Waffle House and car culture, I think really belong together though.
Yeah.
Like your pick a picture of your car in front of a Waffle House sign or a 7-Eleven, like
there's just something like a little bit extra about like the lighting, the fact that it's
a Waffle House or a 7-Eleven.
Right.
Gas station lighting hits fantastic because like there's that like crazy even light coming
down, right?
Like straight down.
So the nighttime gas station lighting, Waffle House, like the iconic sign, I mean, yeah.
Well, here's a question for you, I think.
Okay.
Bring it back to the GSF because as far as backdrops go, there's also the idea, I think
that it gives you a little extra cred.
Right.
Right.
And I think get photographing Alexis in front of a Waffle House.
Yes.
It's a very different vibe than photographing Alexis in front of a country club.
Yes.
Or like a snooze, like a local diner out here that's a little snooty and a little too much
and there's always like a two hour wait time, right?
Yeah.
I think it gives you a little extra grit.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
I like that.
A little, a little extra street cred to be in front of a Waffle House rather than.
Right.
Something a little like.
Right.
Fancy.
Right.
Right.
Like I'm not paying.
There is no mimosa here.
Right.
Right.
Like I'm man of the people.
Right.
I'm not paying $12 for eggs.
Thank you.
The only way you're making a mimosa at Waffle House is if you sneak in the booze.
So I should say it's not that there aren't being mimosas made.
There are mimosas.
Purchased.
Purchased.
There's no mimosas being purchased.
There are definitely mimosas being consumed.
Right.
But you know, man of the people, right?
Right.
I like that.
Yeah.
So there's just, there's just something about like a car picture in front of like a sign
like that that I just really like or in front of a location like that.
Like the, and like 7-Eleven like really embraced people having like meats there and stuff.
I think that's really cool.
You know, as long as things don't get unhinged, you know, because there's people that could
of course ruin that for everyone else.
But like 7-Eleven like looks cool when you take your car.
Yeah.
Your photos in front of it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like that.
But you know, well, and plus like you cannot have a road trip story like in, in any part
of the country where there is a waffle house without it including something about a waffle
house on that road trip story.
I agree.
Right.
Like that yellow beacon like through the like 2am fog.
So my buddy Ed that we went carting with that you met, he like he and his family would
take a trip to, I can't remember somewhere.
I think Florida every year.
He and his family did tons of road trips.
Honda Odyssey, I think I told you like 200 something insane 1000 miles on it.
And there was one routine road trip that they would take, I think to Florida for the summer
vacation.
There was like a waffle house that they would always get to at 3am.
And like that was just enough of a bump for him because he has an iron butt man.
Like he can drive forever.
But like that was just enough of a bump for him and like just re-energizing the family.
Like everybody was, you know, him, his wife, his three daughters, like they could all kind
of rally and they knew they were almost there.
And it was like that waffle house, you know, like stories built around that kind of stuff
or including a waffle house.
I think it's a big part of like road trip and those car pieces.
I dig that, you know.
Yeah, absolutely.
So the fact that my wife had never been to a waffle house, we had to fix that problem.
Yeah.
You know.
This week's show, sponsored.
Sadly, not my waffle house.
Who's the band that you have the waffle house, Black Middie?
Black Middie.
Yeah, has the waffle house-esque t-shirt.
Yeah, I love that.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I've actually had a couple of people stop me and be like, is that a waffle house shirt?
No.
Black Middie.
I personally, you know, feel like I am part waffle house.
The band, however, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right on, man.
So I'm glad I could take you for a ride in the GSF.
Yeah.
It is very well.
I mean, you've, you did well because like it, especially having bought it site on scene,
like the interior feels everything, you know, you know me, I can't keep my hands off of
stuff.
No.
I was touching all the buttons.
You should have heard him.
Internet.
When I said, go ahead, hit the buttons.
I was like, woo.
Also 2016 Lexus infotainment, there's only so much damage you can do.
That's true.
I tried.
I tried.
But everything felt, everything feels tight.
There's no rattles.
Yeah.
The exterior looks amazing.
I think it looks really good back at the stock ride height.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I was, I was curious how, how much of a difference it was going to be.
Right.
And it really does look like a different car.
Like it looks much, I think it looks better with the stock wheels and the stock ride height.
Yeah.
I think it would look a little bit more, I think that the GSF, like it's a very much,
if you know, you know car, right?
And I think it looks a little dorky if it doesn't have like that kind of extra body kit.
Yeah.
On the bottom.
So, you know, with my aftermarket kit, I think that kind of keeps it from looking like a herb,
you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've been trying to think too, ever since seeing the stock wheels on it, now I'm thinking
like what wheels would look good on that car, you know?
Yeah.
Because like the way that the previous owner went is a direction.
It is.
And you know, different people want different things, right?
So it was definitely more of like what I would consider somebody who just.
More stancy.
Yeah.
More stancy.
Like they were, they were kind of prioritizing the looks rather than daily driving comfort.
Yeah.
And those tires were definitely stretched on there.
They were.
And it did look cool.
Yeah.
At that ride height and with those wheels and tires and stuff, but you know, yeah,
your boy needs a bit of squish.
Yeah.
Can you get smaller wheels on there to clear and clear the brakes?
Can you go down to 18s?
I haven't checked.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That would be pretty funny.
Like 18s and then just some meaty, meaty tires or something.
Yeah.
Might be worth looking at.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I, uh, it's, it's a whole thing.
I'm, I'm very intimidated by the car.
Like you and I, like we were talking because there were some plans that kind of had to get
rearranged this morning and you proposed like you and I doing an episode in the GSF.
And I told you that I don't think I'm comfortable enough to like drive.
Like my nerves are still too high.
I can tell.
I can tell.
Yeah.
I can, you can, I don't know if you know this or not, but I can tell.
I can look at you in a car and know how you're feeling because of just like where your shoulders
and elbows are in proximity to like my ears.
Yeah.
And your shoulders are still real high.
They're not, um, uh, Nissan Z.
Right.
Right.
They were like over my hairline.
Where you were like the whole time.
Um, but you're, you're still, you're still up there a little bit.
I am.
Yeah.
Like once you, once you drop, then fun will be had.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, like plus it's cold.
It is cold.
I have some giant meaty tires on it.
Yeah.
I know that Luther did not do well in the snow and stuff like that.
Like, you know, so also this is the first car that I've ever had where like if I don't
respect it, it could fucking kill me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It could, it would bite you.
Right.
Like there, if I was a dingus, I could drive it off the side of a canyon.
No problem.
You know, like if I turned everything off in that car.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Did I tell you about expert mode?
No.
So, okay.
So there's like, you have like your sport.
Sport and sport plus.
Yeah.
Sport and sport plus.
But then there is, so then you have like the differential settings, standard, slalom and
track.
And then you have your traction control.
And like I've read the manual a couple of times about this part mainly because I'd like,
I wanted to make sure that like when I went over to sport plus, like it wasn't turning
off shit.
Have I already told you this?
No.
Yeah.
It wasn't turning off shit that I wasn't ready for it to turn off.
Right.
You know, like I want to know what's really happening.
And so I, not that, like, not that I thought it would because that would be really weird,
but like just on the off chance, right?
So thankfully it doesn't, it keeps like all the traction control and stability control
and all that stuff as it is.
And you actually have to, you know, turn off traction control.
There's a way to fully disable it.
And then there's a way to go into like what they call expert mode.
Okay.
And I saw it like there's like the bottom of the central gauge, which is the tack on
the GSF because they're like, who cares about the speedometer?
You need to focus on the tack, which is hilarious, right?
But on that kind of bottom sliver where it has those things carved out in the manual,
it has a picture of it and it says expert there and it tells you how to put it in expert
mode.
And I was reading the manual and I was like, oh, I'm never going to see that.
Here's a page I might as well just tear out.
You don't think when you take it to the track, you much?
No.
You're going to leave traction control on when you go to the track?
Let me ask you this.
Am I an expert?
Yes.
Yes.
No, I think I'm an above average driver.
Yeah.
But to say I'm an expert, no.
You'd be fine.
No.
No, I wouldn't.
No, I wouldn't.
Oh my God, I'm not an expert.
Okay.
Not an expert.
Okay.
Ian, if you think I'm an expert, then what do you think someone like Lewis Hamilton is?
Yeah, there's like world class expert.
There's expert.
You know?
I think professional driver is expert.
Okay.
Like someone, like not F1.
I mean, obviously those people are just outliers.
They're mutations, right?
You're like, you're leafing through the manual.
Like where's imposter syndrome mode?
Yeah.
That's what I mean.
Imposter syndrome mode.
Yeah.
Where it actually turns everything off, but it's like, oh, I'm doing so much for you.
It does the opposite.
Uh-huh.
Right?
Like when I drove that Mercedes around the track, the C63.
And I was like, I think I did great.
I don't think the traction control came on once.
And what did you say?
I was in the back seat.
I was looking over your shoulder and it was blinking away.
You were like, Dave, it never turned off.
It never stopped blinking.
Straight line blinking.
I will never forget that because it was, we came out of the pits and all through pit exit
and turned three and halfway down the straight.
It was just so angry, blinking, blinking, blinking.
Yeah.
But that car was, that car was stupid.
Sure.
Yes.
That had like at least 200 horsepower more than the GSF.
And your driving has come a very long way since then.
I would say both of us.
Yes.
It has for sure.
Yeah.
Because that was a long time ago.
That was a long, that was a very long time ago.
But still, I'm not an expert in it.
It doesn't mean expert.
It says expert.
Of course it does.
Of course it does.
But it also says sport.
It's a 4,000 pound sedan.
You tell me if that acceleration was sportier.
The acceleration is sport.
Okay.
But like sport.
Right.
I mean sport is a relative term and expert is relative here, right?
It's not like, it doesn't mean.
Do you know what this is?
You know what I'm going to say right now.
You do, right?
Okay.
This is going to go well for me though.
Well, I think you and I will walk away from this conversation with two different ideas.
Okay.
We've had this conversation before in another form.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Uh-huh.
You a thousand percent think you can land the board.
I do.
But I do think I can land the board.
I know you do.
I know you do.
The expert setting on my GSF is the exact same thing.
No, I don't think so.
Okay.
I think I could land the plane with instruction.
I would not say that I'm an expert.
I'm not saying you think you're a pilot expert.
No.
But I think that like you're looking at a thing and saying I could do that.
I could manage that.
Yeah.
And the expert settings, I think you're looking at that and saying I could manage that.
Yes.
Right.
I think.
Confidently so.
Yeah.
I think we've both driven cars with around that same power level with traction control
off and we've been fine.
Have I though?
When have I turned traction control off in something that had over 450 horsepower?
See.
I don't know.
Maybe you haven't.
But I think I have.
I mean, whenever we've gotten in any of those press cars, the first thing I did was turn
the traction control off in that car before.
Right.
Because otherwise, how would we get that burnout video that we did?
Yes.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So, and I was fine.
I didn't crash anything.
I like that that's your barrier.
Well, but I mean.
The D mark.
Well, but what would be your, what would convince you that you could turn it off?
I think that, I think that time and experience would allow me to turn it off.
Like if I, like, if I had an open track or a skid pad or something like that where it's
like autocross where it's like, okay, I know in these conditions with this set of settings
the vehicle is going to do this when this is happening.
Right.
I have no basis of knowledge for that.
On top of that, like I'm coming from sedans that are super slow to react.
Right.
Right.
That's true.
Remember when we did that snow donut in the infinity and it took like a week to make a
full circle?
It was so weird because we came out of my car and into yours and it was so slow.
It was like a city bus doing a donut.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, then my only other experience is really like that.
I feel like I am, I feel like I am a decent front wheel driver.
I feel like my driving style adapts more to front wheel drive than it does rear.
Right.
You know, like I'm very like binary.
I'm big with inputs occasionally.
You like your, don't toss it in.
Yes.
I'm a hucker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
And so I feel like, like in the areas where I've been like comfortable before, don't really
track to this car.
Right.
You know.
That's fair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Expert.
But they just call it that.
It doesn't, it doesn't mean anything.
It just means it's off.
They just call it that.
And then there's two pages of disclaimers.
Well, of course there is.
Of course there is.
See the difference between you and me is I would read, I would read the manual just long
enough to figure out how to get it into that mode and I wouldn't have read anything past
there.
Right.
You'd see like orange because all the disclaimers are like in orange boxes with black text to
like a warning sign to contrast with the white pages of the manual.
I'd be like skip that.
I don't read that.
This is like how like in our head we just used to filter out like, or we do like we filter
out ads.
Yeah.
Inline ads on websites.
You just filter out disclaimers, warnings.
That's a very good analogy.
That's a really good analogy.
Yeah.
I mean, that's you.
Yeah.
I wouldn't, it wouldn't even cross my mind to read them.
There are literal pages in that manual where a disclaimer starts at the top of one page
and finishes on the back of a third page.
Yeah.
I would just be like, skip these.
How quickly can I get through these?
Yeah.
I used to like every now and then I'd find a PDF of Top Gear magazine.
Right.
And then I would just edit out all the ads and save it as a PDF.
Yeah.
And you know, it turns into like a 16 page document where it was like 59 or 110 before.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
So like your version of the manual just with all that stuff ripped out is like the
quick start guide.
Yeah.
How to have fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so how did it feel riding passenger seat knowing all knowing that you're just getting
the Dave, like you're getting the experience of the GSF, but you're getting it through
me interacting with the GSF.
Right.
I'm getting all of the disclaimers.
Yes.
Yes.
Right.
No, it still feels, it still feels very fast.
Right.
And those seats are amazing.
Oh, they're so nice.
And it feels very solid.
Like, you know, it feels pretty direct for a big, a big sedan, big Lexus.
Like, yeah, it felt great from the passenger seat.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm still very excited.
I'm very excited for you to take it to the track because I really want to ride shotgun
with you at the track.
That'll be a lot of fun.
Yeah.
Because I do think we're going to see some real big numbers on the backs, on the back
straight.
If you can get a good exit.
Yes.
Out of two.
Yes.
Man, that thing's going to be a rocket ship down the back straight on the simulator.
I hit 139 on the back straight and I was doing a 156 lap.
But you know, like that was 136, you said 156.
Oh, 156.
Yeah.
Oh, Jesus.
A 136 lap at high planes.
Yeah.
Oh, 156.
That's fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
You must have heard 230.
I did.
I heard, for some reason I heard 236 and I was like, oh, that's not that fast.
Well, when have I ever given you a number that started with a one for anything I've done
at high planes?
That's true.
That's true.
I mean, I've never done it.
I mean, I haven't driven the simulator, but.
Sure.
Yeah.
But yeah, I've never done anything sub two at high planes.
Yeah.
Like a 210 is like my fastest.
And that's really quick.
Yeah.
That was in that Miata.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Anyway.
Thank you for coming over.
Yeah.
To shove me aside and just insist I put you in the GSF.
Yeah.
And thank you for.
So one interesting thing about this car is that like when, and we need to have this guy
in the show.
It's that guy Scott that does all those videos of like each Vin that goes on sale.
Oh, right.
Right.
So I'll reach out to him and get him on the show because we definitely got to talk to
him because he's bought a second GSF.
He bought like the cheapest one with a valley plate leak at over a hundred thousand miles.
Okay.
And he has like that crazy mint orange one.
You're going to.
It's going to be fun when you tell him which Vin you have and he's goes.
About that one.
He's going to ask, I know he's going to ask, did it come with all the OEM parts and like,
you know, what have you done?
Yeah.
Because I think that with somebody like that, it's going to be, he's going to want to know
what type of GSF owner I am.
Right.
Right.
And this is where like, I just fully expect you to shove me aside and just throw Werther's
at the webcam.
You need an idea.
This is it.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He took a nap today in the afternoon.
You went to Waffle House on the daytime.
There you go.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm a daytime Waffle House person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So we need to have him on the show, but like just seeing that like experiencing and sharing
our cars, like it means so much to me to just be able to share this with you.
Yeah.
And had these times together.
I'm just so, I'm really thankful.
I'm, it still doesn't feel real that I have this car.
Like it, you know.
It felt real when you stopped on the accelerator.
It did.
Yeah.
It did.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm kind of, I'm kind of speechless.
I'm just, I'm very thankful.
Yeah.
Very thankful.
Well, I loved it.
Thank you for taking me for a ride.
Of course.
Um, Dave, can I deliver you a license plate game?
Oh yeah.
I would love that.
Yeah.
Here we go.
We got the browser up here and your license plate game.
I have it ready to go here.
Let's see.
This one is called.
All right.
Already.
Okay.
All right.
Can I see it too?
Like in this.
Yeah.
Big ass TV over here.
Yep.
All right.
Here we go.
I like this.
All right.
Already.
Like you're coming in with a lot here, buddy.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, I like these kinds of plates.
Okay.
So up top, we have a BMW as a 328.
I in white.
And then we have a Chevy Equinox.
Yes.
And a Lexus GS 350.
Okay.
The generation right before mine, I think.
I think that's right.
Yeah.
Um, and then the plates.
I am late.
I am LAT three.
I'm hurrying.
I like that.
And I'm sorry.
Like they're apologizing in advance.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So we need zoomies and enhances on this because I can see a context clue that I'm excited
for already.
So, okay.
So we have on the 328, we have a black plate.
Colorado's like kind of newish plate, which I think I might get a black plate for the
GSF.
I think that'll look really good.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's what my wife said as well.
That'll look great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
They left the dealership decal on.
The mirrors are folded up and it's street parked and it's grimy.
It's grimy and it's tough to keep a white car clean.
Yeah.
But the tow hook piece doesn't look like it's, first of all, it's not missing.
Yeah.
Correct.
Right.
Maybe somebody got in there with a screwdriver a couple of times to pry it out.
Okay.
Or it could just be the grime kind of highlighting the little slot there.
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
Either way, right?
Not much else to go on though.
Okay.
Then we have the Chevy Equinox with a Michigan plate.
Yes.
Now, I'm going to tell you right now, this is my front runner for I'm Sorry.
Oh, why?
Because I think that this is trickle down Canadian politeness.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
You think, okay.
Okay.
Right.
I see where you're going with that.
Yeah.
So, yeah, like the Canadians standoff like, you know, uh-huh.
Yeah.
But the instinctual apology.
Okay.
Right.
And then lastly, we have a very beige ES 350 black plate as well.
No plate frame.
No plate frame.
No plate.
You sons of bitches.
I think this has a plate frame, right?
Yeah.
Maybe that has a little black plate frame.
Yeah.
Maybe.
We'll see.
Okay.
We'll see about that.
Oh, yeah.
I think, did you take this one?
I did.
Yes.
I was going to say, those are your old track headlights, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
We have no tint on the GS, tint on the BMW, no tint on the Equinox.
But you need passive solar heating up north to just.
Sometimes, yeah.
To de-thaw yourself.
So, I want to go, I'm sorry on the Equinox.
Okay.
I'm, oh boy.
I'm hurrying on the Lexus GS.
Yes.
And I want to go, I am late on the BMW because I think that I am late on the BMW.
To me, I think that they're just getting in front of being a BMW driver.
Okay.
Right.
Well, that's what I was going to ask you is, what inflection are you putting on all these
plates?
And what tone do you think that they're intending, right?
Because like.
Is it, especially like I'm hurrying because I feel like there's a couple of different
ways that can be expressed, right?
It could be like, I'm hurrying, like get out of my way.
Right.
Or it can be like, hey, I'm hurrying.
See, I, for the Lexus, I'm reading that in that like, I'm hurrying.
Like, you know.
I'm going as fast as I can.
Right.
Defensive.
Right.
Yes.
Just immediately defensive.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Which I guess is more of a Michigan trade.
But.
But.
Yes.
Yeah.
That is that defensive tone.
And then I'm sorry, you know, like.
Right.
Yeah.
I, I'm getting like, Oh, I'm sorry.
Completely unnecessary.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Right.
Like you, like you get bumped into and then you say, I'm sorry.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
And then I, I'm late.
I'm late.
Like, you know, like a complete excuse.
And now it's your problem.
Yes.
It's your problem that I'm late.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm late.
Yeah.
You know, yeah.
I'm late.
So you should move.
Yes.
And you can't come at me with anything because I'm late.
Although that does imply some kind of recognition, some, some kind of self-awareness, but these
are all, they start with I am or the contraction.
Hmm.
Which one puts it back on the other person the most.
Right.
Cause I feel like that that would be the, that would be the BMW.
But.
Yeah.
I think I want to go.
I am late on the BMW.
I'm sorry on the Michigan plate and I'm hurrying on the GS.
Although I feel like I've done poorly.
My guts telling me I'm not, not right about this.
Hmm.
Yeah.
You want to change anything?
If I had to change something, I would go, I'm hurrying on the BMW.
No.
Yeah.
I would keep the, I am late on the BMW.
I would go, I'm hurrying on the equinox and I'm sorry on the GS or on the GS.
Okay.
Yeah.
Watch me be even more wrong.
I don't think you're going to be too pleased.
Oh crap.
It's I'm sorry on the BMW.
Wow.
I am late on the GS and I'm hurrying on the equinox.
Wow.
I did not see that coming on the GS.
So I think what's happening with the equinox.
Yeah.
Give me the rundown.
Because I lived in Michigan for a time and I have family there.
Michigan, people in Michigan drive really fast.
Really?
Like really fast.
Okay.
And they are much, I mean, there are, my wife, my wife is a Michigander.
Okay.
And so I say this with love.
They are not as nice as Canadians.
They, that does not, the niceness does not necessarily trickle down.
Like we're bringing some eight mile Detroit stuff.
Little bit.
Little bit.
Okay.
So they're not as nice as Canadians are.
I'm conflating the culture of Minnesota and Michigan in my head.
Yeah.
That is a mistake I made.
I apologize to all Minnesotans and Michigan nurse.
And that is a thing.
A common mistake that people make that, that Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan are interchangeable.
Right.
And they are not.
They are three distinct places.
And then the fourth is the upers.
And then the upers.
Right.
Which is all.
And they're all different than the Canadians.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The, yeah.
I see the mistake I made.
Yeah.
And so I think that a Chevy Equinox is, is underpowered for the Michigan highways.
Oh, okay.
And so I think this is a defensive I'm hurrying.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
I'm getting in front of it.
Don't honk.
Yeah.
Because I'm not doing 95 miles an hour.
Okay.
In a school zone.
Right.
Yeah.
Because like Michigan is just highways.
Oh, okay.
Like the joke is that everyone has their own personal highway exit for their house.
Gotcha.
Okay.
And they will do like I 75 between Flint and Detroit.
If you're not doing 90 miles an hour, you're going to get run the fuck over.
Like it's fast.
I appreciate the heads up.
Should I ever find myself?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I, I was surprised to see I am late on the GS to be on a beige GS.
Right.
But I don't know.
And I'm, and I'm sorry on a BMW.
That's a level of contrition that I'm not not wouldn't normally associate with BMW either.
I, I, I have a thought about that.
And I think it's because they ran out of characters to do the apology, non-apology, the non-apology
apology.
Oh, right.
Okay.
It's, it's, I'm sorry.
And then in parentheses, if you were offended.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
You feel that way.
Oh my God.
I love that.
Yeah.
And I've had more than enough therapy to know that that's not an apology.
That's really funny.
Right.
I think you might be right.
Yeah.
I think that there's an unspoken part that maybe if you wiped down the back there.
Oh yeah.
That's what the road grime is covering up is the non-apology part.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm sorry for your hurt feelings.
Okay.
That makes more sense now.
Yeah.
So that's a good one.
Thank you.
And you got all of those.
I did.
I got, I am late just yesterday.
Wow.
And I was like, oh my God.
And I knew I had, I'm hurrying and, and I'm sorry.
And I was like, oh my God, this is perfect.
Ian, good captures, man.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I've had, I've had, I'm sorry.
And I'm hurrying forever.
Nice.
I've been waiting for a third.
And I saw that one.
I was like, I instantly knew.
I love plates that like, that say something about like getting, I'm late.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I love a, like anything that I can like project my neuroses onto.
Yes.
I'm like, okay, I like these plates.
That's a good plate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice, dude.
Nice.
Okay.
Well, what else, what else we got?
I have, I have some my eyes if you want to see a couple of my eyes.
Yeah.
Let's do a couple of my eyes.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see here.
So I have, um, oh, our buddy Mark saw a really cool like Land Cruiser kind of truck when
he and his wife were traveling.
Check this shit out, man.
Look at that.
Oh, that's beautiful.
Right.
Oh, and it's for sale.
Oh, it is.
I didn't see that.
Yeah.
Even call the number.
I know.
So it's gorgeous.
Yeah.
So this is like a Toyota, a classic Toyota Land Cruiser, but a truck version.
Yeah.
Which I didn't know was a thing.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe this is a custom thing.
Yeah.
I mean, it looks pretty factory.
Right.
Yeah.
It looked beautiful.
I love that green.
Yeah.
It's in like a really nice dark green.
It's also in a great set.
We were talking about like great backdrops for your car.
Right.
This is like a perfect like up in the mountains, woodsy sort of thing.
Yes.
Yeah.
Here, Mark sent us a second picture of it from the back.
Here you go.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
Toyota's stamped tailgate.
And there's a little Geo Metro with a big roll bar.
Is that what I'm saying?
Is that right?
Close.
I have, he included pictures of that as well.
Okay.
I love in my eyes pictures when we hone in on something in the background.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So here we can go ahead and talk about that too.
Okay.
It's this delightfully chonky little Volkswagen.
Oh, that's what it is.
It's like a Volkswagen Rabbit.
Like 1980, 82, somewhere in there.
Okay.
I mean, look at this three car lineup.
They have like a crazy WRX.
I know.
You couldn't even see that.
It was like hidden by the Toyota before.
Look at the light bar on that.
Yes.
And then this just adorable chonky VW.
This is an unhinged car collection.
Yeah.
This might be the perfect three car garage.
It's a very Colorado car enthusiast three car garage.
Yes.
This is the kind of three cars that you'd see like outside of somebody who's like
neighbors to the Bishop's castle.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Right.
Colorado folks will get that.
It's a completely unhinged person in Colorado.
Oh my God.
This little Volkswagen looks like so much fun.
I love that it's a single seater.
Mark said that like it was just a seat and that was it.
That's awesome.
Right?
This looks great.
That looks like so much fun.
It still has the factory dash and it's like, I love the color blue.
It's got like a really cool pinstripe.
Look at the pinstripe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This thing must weigh nothing.
Oh, this is one of those cars that you'd see like on Instagram or something where people
pick up the rear end of it.
Yeah.
Right?
It must be so much fun in the mountains.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Oh man.
You can see in the background too.
Uh-huh.
Like there's a spare tire over there and then is that like a welding?
Is that a welder?
Those are some kind of fluid pumps.
So maybe gasoline or something.
But there's definitely like track day materials.
Yes.
Like those bins.
I guarantee those are track day materials.
Yeah.
There's another wheel back there.
Yeah.
Yes.
And then the big magnet on the rollers to pick up.
Oh yeah.
So you don't get flat tires in your driveway.
Yeah.
Always got a lot of woodworking equipment.
Yeah.
Interesting.
I have, so the magnet on a stick, get one of those from Harbor Freight if you have a garage
and you do anything like that because they are worth it.
Yeah.
And then my move, I'm sure everybody knows this.
You either get like the big gulp cup or whatever plastic cup like that the magnet fits into
snugly.
Yeah.
And then you sweep the floor with it and then you just pull the magnet out of the cup and
everything falls off and you don't have to pick all the little tiny grit.
Oh, that's a great idea.
Especially if you have like little shavings and stuff like that.
Either that or like one or two like super heavy duty like Ziploc freezer bags.
Yeah.
And a rubber band over the end of the magnet.
Yeah.
That's a way to go.
Oh, that's super smart.
That's because I've picked a lot of stuff off the bottom of those magnets before.
Yeah.
That's my pro move.
And some of those roller magnets have like a plastic thing over them that you just,
you pull away when it's over a trash can.
Yeah.
Can you go back one picture?
Yeah, sure.
The front view?
Yeah, you bet.
Because then I have a question for you.
Yes.
FMK.
Oh, there we go.
Oh, yes.
So I am, I am marrying the Land Cruiser truck.
I am killing the Subaru.
Okay.
And I am definitely effing with this chunky little VW.
If it had two seats, it would be a marriage material.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think I'm going to marry the Volkswagen.
Oh, I can see that.
Like this looks like it's so much fun.
It does, right?
Like it's got to weigh absolutely.
It must be so much fun on a canyon, on a back road.
Right.
You must be able to carry so much speed.
Oh, yeah.
No.
Right.
I can't even imagine.
And okay, here's, here's a picture of this for you and me in the Volkswagen.
Let's say we put a second seat in.
Yeah.
We somehow mount mountain bike racks on the back of it.
And we just take turns doing shuttle runs.
Yes.
Right.
Because.
Doing top gear races.
Yes.
Yeah.
It would be very debatable as to who is having more fun.
Yeah.
Like bombing a fantastic, like nice downhill single track.
Yeah.
Right.
Absolutely.
Versus who's.
In this thing.
Yeah.
Going down, going down a mountain road and one of these.
And then Pita hanging from the roll bar.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Like a trash man hanging off the back of the truck.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, get rid of the Subaru.
And this Volkswagen Land Cruiser combo is like a great two car garage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man.
Super fun.
I'm sure the Subaru is great and all that, but yeah, I was on Instagram real speaking
of Subaru is like, just when like, I think I didn't, I was locked into a frame of reference
for Subaru's.
There was somebody at like a cars and coffee or to meet that was just going around and interviewing
people about what they brought.
And this lady had a Subaru Forester and the hood was up and there was a lot of aftermarket
work and a fucking hood exit for the turbo.
And he was like, so what do you got?
And she's like, oh, it's a 2016 or 2012 Forester.
It's like, okay.
She's like with a thousand horsepower.
Jesus.
And it was like just a very pedestrian looking.
Except for the hood exit exhaust.
Person.
Yeah.
With this car.
And I was like, oh shit.
Yes.
Like that's awesome.
I think that like, you know, STIs and all that stuff are great.
But like, if you're going bonkers with a Forester, I'm fucking here for it, man.
I like, that's cool.
That kind of gives me that like fresh energy.
You know, yeah.
Oh yeah.
And that was her spare motor.
She's having one built.
That's going to be 1300 horsepower.
Oh, and then no spark.
These were all Subaru motors.
Wow.
Right.
Hey, crazy.
You do you lady.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We need her on the show, man.
Really?
Absolutely.
So I'll see if I can find it.
Maybe I saved it.
I'll have to check.
But yeah.
Anyway, just the WRX maybe think of that because I don't know.
We like, like, and that's one thing about the GSF.
Like we don't want to be like everyone else.
We want something special and weird if we have a chance.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
You know, and.
Yeah.
Well done on these spots.
Yes.
So thank you, Mark.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Ian.
Dave.
Okay.
So I do have an album of the week for you.
Okay.
This is going to be uncharacteristically nostalgic and touchy feely for me.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Now, don't listen to me for a minute.
Okay.
Listeners.
When Ian gets into this like touchy feely emotional space, you cannot one up it.
You can't go towards him.
You have to stay exactly where you are and let him gently come towards you.
Watch.
It's like, I need David Attenborough voiceover for this.
Like a house cat.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
So tell me about this album, Ian.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't act like you want to pet me.
Let me come to you.
Okay.
So I am about to celebrate my 20th wedding anniversary.
Yes.
Congratulations.
A certified old person.
You and me both.
Yeah.
And also I got married at the age of seven months old.
Hey, you know, like there are those people that get married young and it's obviously worked.
Yeah.
So far.
So far.
So far.
So I wanted to pick something from 2005, which is the year that I got married.
Okay.
So we're going to go with LCD sound systems first record.
Okay.
The self titled LCD sound system.
Okay.
Which was a very big record in our house when, when we, I think it was 2005.
Yeah.
2005.
Very big, very big album for us when, when it came out.
Okay.
We listen to this all the time.
And I am going to make, this will definitely be on the playlist that I'm making of all
2005 music.
Nice.
To bring with us.
Yeah.
Cause you're going on a vacation.
We are.
We're going on a really cool trip.
We're, we're going on a big train ride.
We're taking a train from Denver to San Francisco.
And then we're going to toodle around Northern California in a cool car that I rented.
So I will take pictures and report back on that.
Yeah.
But in the meantime, listen to some music from 2005.
There's luxury lots of, it was a really good year for, for music and indie rock in particular.
Yeah.
So yeah.
If you have a 2005 favorite, drop it in the YouTube comments.
But yeah, I'm really interested to hear what else you have on the 2005 playlist.
Oh yeah.
We've got some Sufiath Stevens on there.
We're going to have some Wolf Parade on there.
Okay.
Definitely some LCD sound system.
Sure.
Yeah.
There's lots of good stuff.
Nice man.
Maybe, maybe some Kanye if we can, if we can put 2025 Kanye out of mind.
Yes.
Just think about 2005 Kanye will be okay.
Right.
That sounds like a Kanye lyric right there.
Or one that should, should exist.
Hopefully at some point we'll get a let's ignore 2025 Kanye.
Maybe he'll get back on some meds or something.
Right.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like I'm sorry about the 2005 Kanye.
Yeah.
Right.
Absolutely.
And not I'm sorry you felt that way about the 2005 Kanye.
Yeah.
2025 Kanye.
Yeah.
2025.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well congratulations on 20 years of marriage.
Thank you.
Yes.
Thank you.
What cliched marriage jokes are you making?
Like, oh, we've been married for 20.
I just say it like this.
I just go, we've been married for 20 long years.
Okay.
That's what I just say like that.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Just do an inflection joke.
Yes.
Yeah.
And how does Jenny respond to that?
She laughs.
Okay.
Good.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
Or she rolls her eyes at me depending on, depending on the day.
Right.
But I think that that's a good example of how your marriage dynamic works anyway.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I make a joke and she rolls her eyes at me.
That's usually how it goes.
Right.
Yes.
Nice.
Nice.
Well congratulations, buddy.
That's awesome.
Thank you.
And I hope you have a delightful time on your trip.
I do too.
I think it should be very nice.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
Awesome, buddy.
Well, I'm looking forward to being your car's emergency contact while you're gone.
Yes.
Yeah.
Hopefully we'll not need it.
Yes.
Yes.
Speaking out of the week, did you listen to Dark Magus at all?
Yes, I did.
I listened to like the first 10 minutes while I was trying to edit last week's show.
And I had to like just-
You can't be productive.
No.
No.
I just had to kind of like sit and like, I was just listening to it on YouTube.
And it was one of the ones where it's just the cover art.
Yeah.
It's not like a video or anything.
And I legit just stared at the cover art on the screen for a minute.
Didn't do anything else.
Yep.
Which is wild for as ADHD riddled as I am.
That like, first of all, that I thought I could like edit the show and make cuts during
that.
No.
Right.
But yeah, like if cocaine itself made an album, this is what you'd get.
Absolutely.
This is more Dr. Feel Good Than Motley Crue could ever cocaine be.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's something that it does demand your attention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, I mean, I am impressed by the hubris that you thought that you could multitask
to Dark Magus.
Honestly, I think I would put it in a similar vein as like the live Autecher shows.
Yeah.
Where it is coming at you, it kind of doesn't care where you're at.
Yeah.
Like if this is happening, you can either like, yeah, there's no, we're not coddling the audience
here.
At all.
We're doing whatever the fuck we want.
Right.
Right.
There's no requests.
No.
No.
There's no banter.
Nope.
Yep.
Nope.
Well, and if you read the thing, I mean, like, I think he, he faced away from the audience
for most of it.
He barely played his trumpet.
He played his, he played an organ for most of it.
I mean, he's known as a trumpet player.
Right.
Like, and he barely played trumpet.
So, you know, it was, it's still, it's a very like moment in time thing.
Yes.
And you either get it or you don't, and each are equally valid responses.
Exactly.
Just like the audience, just like everyone else that was somehow interacting with this.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
So thank you for that.
Yes.
You're welcome.
And you know, I will tell you, I've never listened to a full LCD sound system album.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I think this is a good place to start for you actually.
Because I think this is the most bleep bloopy.
Yes.
Of all of his, of all the records.
Yes.
Especially like, especially the second disc of this.
So there's, there was a first disc and a second disc that was like all their like singles
and besides the stuff that came out before this record.
Okay.
And those are, those have remixes on them.
They're really good and are a little bit more bleep bloopy.
Okay.
So I, but I think you'll dig this.
Okay.
It's very good.
Okay.
And it, and it rewards headphone listening too.
Yeah.
His, his judge of sound is like just amazing.
Awesome.
So yeah, you'll, you'll like this.
Nice.
Okay.
Right on, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Links in the YouTube description for sure.
Yes.
And yeah.
And yeah, chime in with your favorite 2005 album.
Yeah.
There's lots to choose from.
I had, I went back and forth between a couple of them.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Sufian Stevens is also like, was right up there for me and that wolf parade record,
like I said, there's lots of good ones.
Yeah.
I got to think it's not a year that comes this top of mind for me.
Yeah.
Nice buddy.
Okay.
Um, Dave, I think we done did a waffle house show.
We did a waffle house show.
This has been waffle cast.
Not where we like vacillate, but we legit talk about waffle house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Um, 720-515-1391.
Send us, uh, show us your cars.
Oh, absolutely.
For our year-end show.
Yes.
Let us know what 2005 albums you like.
Um, and just, you know, leave us a voicemail if you want.
Whatever.
There you go.
Apex is Jason at Gmail.
Um, everybody, thank you.
We love you.
Goodbye.
Bye.
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