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Dave, Ian, Jenny, Jenny, he might give you a Jenny.
Yeah, you'll get Jenny for me.
Yeah.
What are you doing here other than being paraded into being here by me?
Right.
Being told at 8pm that I need to like put on some makeup to be on camera.
I just went, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Being told, wow, this show is taking a turd.
He didn't say anything like that.
Because what we think is...
I have not been married for 20 years by saying shit like that.
Exactly.
Yes.
Yeah, you celebrated your 20th wedding anniversary being married for 20 years.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And you're exactly right.
That is absolutely a survival tactic that like...
No, yeah.
Yeah.
That's an example of something that has never come out of my mouth.
Right?
Yeah.
I never will.
Yeah, it turns out it's not hard to be, you know, it's not hard to not be an asshole.
Is that what I'm trying to say?
Yeah, it's not being weird.
Yeah, exactly.
Right on.
Well, thank you for joining us on the show, Jenny.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So Jenny and I have a little story, but we're going to tell that later.
I want to start with something else.
Another family member of mine that's annoying me.
Not a father.
Wait, Jenny, what's the unspoken part of that sentence?
Right, yeah.
My father also is on my nerves right now because he ruins my Christmas gift to you.
Oh, no.
Sharing in my eyes.
It wasn't, to be clear, it wasn't something that I knew existed before he sent it to me,
but now I'm annoyed that I can't get it for you because I have to show it to you immediately.
OK, I might know what this is.
OK, so go ahead and go into the current show folder and he took two photographs.
Go LexisRx-1.
Oh, I have not seen this.
OK, OK, all right.
OK, we'll put them.
He sent me this picture of just a just a normal standard silver LexisRx.
OK, whatever.
Yes, didn't really think much of it.
And then go to the second picture.
OK, all right.
And outside the Swedish restaurant that he goes to for Sunday.
Yes, that looks familiar.
OK, next picture.
Old man edition.
You can get an old man edition badge.
Yes, yes.
OK, now I can't get that for you for Christmas, but now you know it exists.
I do.
I do. I did not know that this kind of thing exists.
I'm surprised like I just didn't like if I take off my shirt,
there just isn't one like on my chest.
It's shaved in your chest.
It shows up in the mail at a certain age that they're like,
you're going to need this now.
She's mottled in AARP.
Did when you turn 18, Ian, did you get a package from Gillette
congratulating you on your 18th birthday with a razor and shaving cream and stuff like that?
I actually know, but I became they knew what had happened.
And they heard like whispers about it and they they just made me a voting shareholder.
Because I legit got something from Gillette when I turned 18,
which I'm sure that wasn't the selective service thing that you were supposed to fill out.
I did get that as well, where they were like, not interested.
They flied me like you're incredibly high pitch voice will give away our enemy position.
We'll give away position to enemies where off your skin.
Yes. Yeah.
Well, thank you for the thought.
It's the thought that counts, right?
Is something that disappointed people say, right?
Well, I did not know the old man edition was a thing.
So what what else would you include in the old man edition package?
Let's say you were speccing this for your your Lexus.
What else would come with the old man edition?
I mean, obviously, just center console full of where there's originals, right?
And then just kind of like a weird smell that you can't quite can't quite identify.
Weird old man smell.
It's not bad, but it's there.
Yeah.
And it's just a bunch of coupons, right?
To like old country buffet. Yes.
What else? Cracker Barrel. Oh, Cracker Barrel.
Yeah. Yeah.
Play well. Yeah.
The GPS just takes you to Bingo.
And a dinner theater restaurant.
Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I think of old man cars.
I talk about this all the time.
The blinkers that are too soft.
Uh-huh. Yeah.
They don't want to scare you when they're when the sound is too loud, when it's like.
Yeah. No, that's like an actual blinker.
That black sedan that I had, the LS460,
that had the quietest turn signals in the universe.
And the demographic is 90 year old people.
Yeah, we'll leave the blinker on at all times.
Yeah. Yeah.
I can hear it.
Yeah.
It's like a blinker dimmer switch.
Yeah. I do like the syncopated tea drinking that both of you are bringing to the podcast.
We both have like our don't be sick tea.
No. Yeah. We were off last week.
We missed the show.
You were on your anniversary trip.
I was sick. We're all sick.
Yeah. Right now.
This is welcome to the holidays, everybody.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh.
So well, thank you for the old man addition.
I appreciate that.
Yes. You're welcome.
And thank you, Eric, for getting the pictures for us.
Yes. Yes. Thank you, Dan, for saying that.
He actually just sent that to me like minutes ago.
Oh, nice.
On all the presses.
Yeah. Don't give away the timing of when we record the show,
because then he'll just bomb you with pictures right before we record every time.
Jokes on him. It's different every time.
Nice. OK. All right.
Also, so the whole reason I wanted to come on was we went on a fairly big
adventure last week and wanted to tell the story about it.
So the whole thing was our 20th anniversary trip.
And we decided to take the train from
yeah, Denver to San Francisco, which was fantastic.
It was great. Yeah.
I will say so.
I would like to call attention to the fact
that we're getting an E and lean in to the to the microphone.
OK, go on.
I forgot to put a picture in the courage show folder,
but I have documentary evidence as to the caveat.
So talk about the great parts about it and I will put that in there.
Oh, what did you get to go over the fight?
OK, so the great part was there was one there was no Wi-Fi,
which meant that you had to just like look out the window, right?
So it's just me and my tinnitus buzzing away.
Really, like you you can read you have to read a book.
You have to talk to strangers because you got that,
which doesn't sound like a selling point, but right for dinners.
They're all like little four tops and we were just the two of us.
And so they tell you like you sit there and Ian and I tried to sit on opposite
sides of the table and they were like, no, no, you need to sit next to each other
because we're going to put other people.
And so you kind of just like chat with folks who are
also taking the train across the country.
Um, yeah, we played Cribbage.
We taught ourselves how to play.
I love Cribbage.
I yeah, I will peg the shit out of a board.
Yeah, it was so fun.
Yeah, it's a great game.
Much better at it than Ian.
I got destroyed every day.
Pretty great.
Yeah, every game.
Just absolutely.
I love Cribbage.
It's so great. Yeah.
But I think also I do a lot of air travel and like it's such a nice
respite from air travel where like you're it's so much more relaxed.
Right.
You know, like you don't have to line up immediately.
Well, I still did.
Yeah, but you don't have to.
If that's your thing, you can stand in a line.
And it was there are people lining up to get on this train.
I don't care if we have a sleeper car.
We need to get in that line.
You'll hear code.
At what point did you figure out if you were within kind of the Venn diagram
of train traveler demographics, like how much of you were in it?
How much of you weren't right?
Like how much how much in common do you think you had with like the average
train person or a couple taking the train across?
The average train person is Amish.
So not that much.
OK, were there just like a whole bunch of Pennsylvania Dutch on there?
Yes, OK, so many.
And like every time we've been on that track, that's when they guess.
No way, really?
Because they won't take I will they take buses?
They won't take buses, right?
No idea. Why trains?
Anyway, yeah, why are trains OK?
Were they just whittling furniture everywhere?
Yeah. Were they just whittling furniture and making candy left and right?
No, like no, but there's some there's some things they could have attended
to on the train probably right.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was the experience was really interesting.
It was OK, really relaxing.
I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
I could see you digging that.
I did. I did.
And there are definitely some weirdos like when we were playing
Krivige, they're kept being people who would come and like stop and stare at us.
And you know when someone stares because they want you to make eye contact
so they can start having a conversation.
And you're like, but I don't want to do that.
Like we're just trying to like play a game.
I don't want to.
And so that kept happening a few like more than twice.
OK, it was it was enough that we stopped playing Krivige in the opposite.
Yeah, we just went back to our room.
Sure, sure. Yeah.
Yeah, you find out that they're nationally ranked on the Krivige like leaderboards,
right? And they were just trying to hustle you. Yeah.
Yeah, but the train also.
OK, so we've taken an overnight train in Europe before.
OK, and I can tell you that comparing those two luxury luxury levels.
Yeah, it's quite a bit different.
So I know nothing about either.
Yeah, give me the skinny in Europe.
Is it just amazing?
Is it like Rolls Royce versus like a Chevy here?
Little bit. I mean, it's not it's not that dramatic.
But I have a picture in the thing.
So OK, our and the sleeper cars are designed where there's like compartments
and then they're separated, kind of like a hotel room by a divider.
So they can be like opened up if you can get like you can book a double.
OK, family or something.
Sure. And then all of these cars are like the latest Amtrak car was built
in like the 80s. Yeah.
The Northeast Corridor, all the rest of them are like 30, 40 years old.
OK, but on the trip, remember, I read that the California Zephyr,
which is the train that we took and another one,
they're getting new cars that are nice.
But we did not have those.
So you were flying in an empty 80.
Yeah, yes, basically.
I had to like to get the bunk down for us to sleep.
I had to like basically get in there and like disassemble something
to get it to like Janky.
We were sitting there drinking our wine, getting ready to get ready for bed.
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty late.
We were just like listening to music, drinking wine, chatting
and start hearing this weird noise.
And then we hit a bump.
It was on a rough section of track and the whole
divider between our car, our compartment and the next compartment.
No, open. No.
There was a guy like opening his bathroom door like it was just like.
Yeah, yeah.
Cool. I'm glad you saw a stranger masturbating.
Yeah, yeah.
So if you load up the picture called quality,
OK, see how we fixed it.
Oh, duct tape.
Yeah, that is one of my USB cables.
Oh, yeah, I left on the train.
OK, but that is official Amtrak duct tape.
That was done by one of the attendants because it would not latch.
They couldn't get it to close.
Oh, my God.
So they were like and she came in, she was like,
well, this is what you do.
I mean, it clearly had never been the first time.
Right, right.
They had a protocol in place where they had to find out if you were
the couple that was down for it or not.
They're like, do you want to make a friend?
Uh huh. Yeah.
What kind of what kind of couple are you?
Yeah, I've not seen any pineapples here.
So I'm not getting any like revives.
So yeah, OK, OK, but just on the off chance.
Wow. Well, amazing fix with the tech.
This is the best kind of tech fix that involves no tech,
just tensile strength of cable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Layer one.
Yes, layer one.
Wow, OK.
So so you just knew that this was like a
I don't know, like a like you lose privacy.
Like privacy is a veil anyway, like it's fake,
but like just the perception of privacy is kind of like reduced in this aspect.
Like, were you talking quite a little bit?
Yeah, there's a guy just like right over there.
Right. Well, you could hear him anyway.
The walls were very thin.
Well, no, they weren't thin.
It was there was a gap.
We could hear him less after.
That is true. That is true.
Oh, you could hear him less after your fix.
Yeah, because it was like there were the gap and it wasn't sealing.
Yeah, that's why we can hear him so much.
So clearly that's true.
OK, you improved Amtrak, Ian.
Yeah, you're welcome. Amtrak.
OK, OK.
And I'm guessing the USB cable is like a pretty significant portion of their budget.
Like that.
I'm guessing this is not the kind of thing that would happen on the European train.
No, no, I'm pretty sure that this is the sort of thing
that we get a car taken out of commission.
Yeah, because I remember the one we boarded in London
for the overnight train to Edinburgh and you go into this beautiful little
like lounge car, right, where they were serving drinks
and they had on uniforms and the whole bit.
It's just it's pretty different.
It was pretty different, but it was also really cool to do.
I was excited to do it.
I would do it again in the US.
Definitely. I wish they would just put maybe a little bit more money toward it.
So more people would do it.
Yeah, because it was also like three times as much as flying, probably.
Well, but we were also it was also like a hotel room and it included a lot of meals.
Yeah, OK, sure.
It was more expensive than flying, but not
outrageously so if you factor in like another night in a hotel and OK.
Yeah, how long were you on the train
from when you boarded in Colorado to when you got off in California?
Yeah, 36 hours, 36 hours. OK.
And you didn't get off the train at any point.
We did for a fresh air stop and Ian wanted to like go take a walk.
That was like, no, we need to go to see this train
because the table in that whistle.
I'm not running fast enough to get back on the train.
So I was like, I will walk up and down the platform.
OK. And he was like ready to go walk into the neighborhood.
He was like, there's a coffee shop a block away.
And I was just like, it only lines up with your bullshit travel mentality
where like you want to hop on the plane right before the door closes.
Yeah. Yeah.
And that sends my blood pressure through the roof, just thinking about it.
Yeah. Are you the same, Jenny?
Like, yeah. OK. OK.
They tell you we cannot.
They were like, they came up with the thing.
They were like, we cannot leave this section of track
until this time because there's a freight train in the way.
So we will we will not leave before this time.
In manner. Right.
But like, I don't trust that.
And they don't.
There's a person telling me that and people make mistakes.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then you don't want to be like on those cruise ship videos where like
they're running and like people are mocking them, you know, yeah, from the ship.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
So where would you have been stuck?
Like Grand Junction or something?
It was no, it was in California.
It was not far from the end.
Yeah. Yeah. OK.
It was a small town, though.
OK. I love your whole idea, like coffee shop.
Let's do it. Yeah.
Oh, well, to make it better, it was just on the other side of the Donner Pass.
Donner Pass, yeah. OK.
So we could have recreated that.
Nice. Nice. OK.
All right. So 36 hours in a train with, well, the three of you,
you two and the stranger.
Yeah. But like I nearly finished a book.
Yeah. OK. You nearly finished a book.
Yeah. It was great.
You think you saw a mountain lion?
I did think I do think I saw a mountain lion.
I definitely saw it.
I saw a beaver in a river. Oh, sweet.
OK. It's so near, right?
And like eagles and. Yeah, I saw a bunch of eagles.
Yeah, it was really cool. OK.
So yes, train travel. Do it. OK.
Did you have a head?
Like, did you listen to a lot of music and stuff like that?
Yeah, we did. OK.
I made a whole list of.
That's right.
You made a 20th anniversary playlist.
I made a 2005 playlist.
All the other five music. OK.
And that was great.
We had like 140 songs.
So sweet. Nice, dude.
Yeah. OK.
Yeah. And we just like hung out.
It was great. Yeah.
So we got in in the like late afternoon.
Got on a train down to San Jose and to so we could pick up the rental car.
And thus now begins our fun story.
So I I think I talked about this on the show, right?
I booked it through Turro.
I booked this rental car through Turro.
I found a 1974 BMW 2002.
T.I.I. Yeah, which I have wanted.
There's pictures on the in the current show folder, if you want to show.
Yeah.
I have one of the drive 2002.
T.I.I. for credit, right?
It's yours.
Gorgeous. Yeah, I've always wanted to drive one as well.
They look and this and this one that you found on Turro was in immaculate shape.
It's beautiful.
Like the glass is all brand new.
I mean, excuse me.
The wheels all are all in great shape.
The bodywork is fantastic.
There's like one dent in the in the trunk scratch area.
OK, you have to have one.
Yeah. Yeah.
The interior was beautiful.
It had he had done like really tasteful upgrades.
So like he's got a five speed, you know, limited slip differential.
Oh, wow.
He has the the the Euro bumpers.
Uh-huh. Yes.
Although all that sort of stuff.
The engine bay is immaculate.
OK. Gorgeous.
I was I got to see that.
You did.
And and it drove beautifully.
Like it didn't drive.
It didn't have like a ton of play in the steering or anything like it drove
like a really well maintained older car.
OK. Like it still made weird noises.
Sure. Rattles and, you know, it was an old it's a 50 year old car.
And but my first impressions were and the brakes were like fine.
They were good.
They were great for 1974 sort of thing.
OK. Well, before we get to like your driving impressions,
I can we rewind just a little bit for the trip planning and you like pitching
this idea to Jenny or like how this how you both came to the same page
that this is what we're going to do.
As in where for you get for him getting the car?
Yeah. Yeah.
Because we did the same thing when we were in England.
Right. With the Mini Cooper.
With the Mini Cooper.
And this is just his thing, right?
Of course. He's going to want to find a cool old car.
I'm fine with that.
I mean, the Mini Cooper, I spent the whole time being
98 percent sure it was about to die.
Like every time he shifted gears, I was like, and that's it.
And good scene.
And it didn't last for the whole time.
So I was like, and those what he's doing, I trust that he's a good driver.
And so when he pitched that when he showed me the car, I was like, yeah.
On visuals alone, right?
Yeah, I was like, let's do it.
But then knowing your husband's car decision making
and the repercussions around it, I probably should have thought
about that a little bit more. Oh, OK, OK.
Thanks. I'm told by how pretty the car was.
And this, like, very like, oh, my God, we're going to be driving on, like,
you know, I do like scarf, like omelette, like scenes are happening in your head.
I can match every outfit.
Great. I had I had some.
Some like nervousness just about so everything I'd read about Northern
California in the winter is that it's really rainy.
And I was like, is this car going to be able to handle if we get like an absolute
deluge, right? Turned out we didn't get any rain the whole time.
Oh, OK. OK.
But yeah, I was more nervous about it, how it would handle the weather.
OK. OK.
I didn't think because I was like, if a guy's renting this car on Toro,
I bet it works pretty well.
Right. It worked well.
So I think we're fine.
OK. And this felt like a cool anniversary thing to do.
So absolutely. Like when he pitched this to me, I was like, this sounds great.
It's something that he's doing for this is like your way to celebrate the anniversary.
Yeah. Well, I'm like part of the adventure.
Yeah. Right.
Because I do a lot of the research on the other stuff that we do during the trip.
Right. And a lot of finding the hotels.
I also booked the train.
You did book the train, too.
So you did all the travels.
The train was my idea.
Yeah. But a lot of the other stuff is me.
Yeah. With like a giant Google spreadsheet.
Yeah. Yeah. Four thousand tabs open. Yes. OK.
So I was I was like into it.
I thought I was like, this is going to be super, super fun and feel special.
It's better than like, you know, I don't know,
driving a Chevy cobalt around. Oh, no. Yeah.
And I think that there's like in a relationship,
you recognize a moment when like your partner is passionate about a thing.
Yeah. And you're like, oh, this isn't like going to negatively impact us.
Like, let's just be there for it.
Let's like build on that energy and let's go with it. Right.
What was your initial thought about it when we picked it up?
Other than is our luggage going to fit?
Oh, well, yeah, because it's tiny, right?
The trunk is huge. Oh, OK.
At one time, I would say this is much better than one of the last times I went to
California and Ian rented a Corvette.
Ian rented a Corvette. Did you tell me about this?
I'm sure I must have.
And I had this picture trying to shove our luggage in
the trunk of this Corvette and just being like, it's not going to happen.
It was before we knew each other.
This was in like 2012.
Just before we had Niko.
Yes. Before we had Niko.
I was in San Jose.
It was in the Bay Area for work.
And Jenny came out and met me and then like took a couple of days
to go up to like San Francisco.
Importantly, because I wanted to go to the Winchester Mystery House,
which is in San Jose. Oh, yeah.
Uh-huh. Right.
Staircase is leading to nowhere and all that weird stuff.
Yeah. OK.
And we drove that around.
Well, yeah. So I went to a rental car place
and it was just like at the normal rental car place.
And I was like, well, do you have?
What do you have in the way of, you know, like fun?
Right. If I have new balances and cut off jean shorts
and I'm having a midlife crisis, what do you have for me?
Yeah, they were like, we've got a Corvette convertible.
And I was like, yes, please, let's do that.
I don't think you ever told me this.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a C6.
It felt because we stayed.
Sorry. No, get into it.
Found us this beautiful, like artistic houseboat to stay at in Sausalito.
That's that same trip.
And then we show up in this effing Corvette.
Right. Plastic Van Halen.
Right. It felt so wrong.
Yeah. Yeah. So wrong.
Yeah. Oh, and then we drove it, like north out of San Francisco,
like through like the Mirwoods area and stuff like that.
OK. Why New Roads?
Like tiny, tiny, super tight roads, like.
Right. Like hairpins every 200 yards sort of thing.
And the Corvette felt so enormous on those roads.
It was not very fun.
Well, you were just kind of like embarrassed to be seen in it.
Like, I remember driving through San Francisco.
You speak yourself because I was having a grand old.
I wasn't when we were driving through San Francisco.
I was like, I don't want to be seen in this.
So I am like, I am too cool for this car.
I felt with this one.
I was like, oh, this is really cool.
Like we walked out of this kind of shitty hotel
because we just had to get a hotel for the night to pick up the car.
So we were like, what's closest to the train station, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah. Yeah.
But we walk out of this hotel and I was like, oh, this feels really special.
Like it's a whole vibe just presence wise. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
And then, you know, we're like dressed up to go to a winery and stuff.
So like it felt it was cool.
OK. That's the other picture.
The big head one was. Oh, yeah.
Our first stop was at this winery with all this art.
So that that sculpture is incredible.
Cool. And driving up to it is a bit of like a head.
Yeah. Just looking at the picture is weird.
Yeah. So it's like it's a very squished perspective of.
Yeah. So the head is like elongated.
Yeah. And there's those.
You know, like the tall skinny trees that they've looked very Italian.
Yeah, I am. Those were all flanking it. OK.
The driveway. Yeah.
Yeah. Like the driveway on the way up.
Gotcha. OK.
So like it looked, it felt really cool for the environment.
It looks really cool in the environment.
Yeah. That's a great picture, Ian.
Thank you.
How did it take great pictures?
How does it feel in the car?
Like, are you comfortable?
Yeah, I mean, you weren't sitting on a lawn chair or anything like that.
Like, yeah, I had upgraded seats.
He had seats like an 80s era, three series that he had like all
like recovered to match the interior.
Like it was beautiful inside.
You know, you had people like waving.
Yeah. Yeah.
Just because they see a cool car.
Yeah. It would have been a great way for me to pick up some dudes
on my 20th anniversary trip.
It would have been a lot of interest in the trade
in the car. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. OK.
And so we had it for several days.
So that other picture was our our our stop after this was our hotel
up in Mendocino. OK.
And then we we drove it around in like that area for a couple of days
without any incident whatsoever.
Well, so I did kind of like kick back on your first impression.
So would you mind going back to like your first driving impressions
unless you were heading in a direction that you wanted to?
No, no, no, I was just trying to say like it just felt well sorted.
Like everything felt great.
And also it lived up to my expectations completely of it was just
it was lovely to drive.
It felt very just, you know, when like it doesn't feel it wasn't slow at all.
Like it felt quick. OK.
It's like 180 horsepower or something like that for something
that barely weighs anything. Yeah, weighs like 2000 pounds.
Yeah. So it felt it feels fast, actually.
That's awesome. When you get into it. Yeah.
And it drove so nicely on the like twisty roads.
Like you could just feel how light it was. OK.
It's not like the most direct or, you know, powerful car or anything like that.
But it's so light that it doesn't matter that the that has drum brakes on the back.
And it's like, you know, they don't stop that great. Right.
But it's so light you just you can just hook it in and it'll just
go right around. It's super well balanced.
OK. Fantastic to drive quickly. OK.
Not for me. So I get motion sick pretty easy.
Yeah, that's right.
Cars I get carsick in this one.
I mean, he was you weren't.
I know you weren't going like flat out around corners and stuff
because I was in the car. Sure.
But like I wasn't get I didn't get motion sick.
OK. Yeah.
Which I think is a big deal, right?
Because you go to the ground and it didn't feel like it was a rolling.
That's what I've noticed is the thing for me. Yeah.
Yeah, I had a lot of fun in it as just a passenger.
That's awesome. That's fine.
Yeah, I was not pushing hard at all.
I was like, sure. No, I was in let's hustle it a little bit.
Yeah, like six, seven tenths.
So we're having a little bit of fun here.
Right. But lots of lots of margin.
And, you know, yeah, I did not want to bend this up.
Did it have a stereo that you could pair your phone to or ox, ox cable?
He had he had a it was like a Blaupont.
Um, it looked just like the stock AMM.
I love it when they make these like period correct looking
stereos with like the modern bits behind them.
And it just so it was just Bluetooth.
So it was just audio, but I could at least, you know, yeah,
the directions going and music going and stuff like that.
Right. Yeah. Yeah, that was great.
Nice. Okay.
It did. The road noise, like was it quiet?
Was it? Yeah. No, it was loud.
It was pretty loud.
Okay. Okay.
Usually at the highway, I was like, do we have a door open?
Sure. Yeah.
You check the windows to make sure they're all the way up.
Yeah. I mean, the windscreen is vertical.
Right. Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
But yeah. And but other than that, the seats were super comfortable and supportive.
The driving position is just perfect.
I didn't even notice until two or three days into the trip
that there was no adjustment to the steering wheel.
I didn't even think to look because I just got in and I was just like, oh, my God.
This is just my position.
See, Jenny, like Ian doesn't like it when I go down this rabbit hole.
But like he, Ian has this superpower where like he just fits into any car, right?
Like what no matter what it is, like we've like at press events,
like we've gotten out of Mercedes land cruisers, you know, just like budget cars.
He looks at home in every single car.
It's like the friend that you have that has like, like they could be any ethnicity,
like they could fit in with any kind of ethnicity, right?
Like maybe change the hairstyle a little bit and like they could pass for anything.
He's like that with cars.
Like well, it's a superpower and we were talking about this because
so later, later on when we had a different car, I drove part of it.
And I was like, I feel so uncomfortable driving because I'm not used to this car.
And we were talking about the fact that like Ian can get into any car.
And I feel like he's just like, oh, I can drive this.
Yes. And he feels so natural at it from nearly the start, no matter what it is.
No, we're the same way.
Yeah, but they feel different. I don't know.
No, but you're right, Jenny, because an RV, a military deuce and a half,
the Mini Cooper in London and anything between.
Yeah. Right.
Like gets in it and does it feel comfortable and I'm just like, yeah.
Some of it is blind confidence that like,
is that whole like can he land the plane kind of thing?
Because we were talking about that on the show before, right?
Some of it is that confidence for a long time.
You 100% think you could land the plane.
Right. Yeah. For the record, Jenny, you know, I do not think I can.
Right. But so some of it is that.
But then some of it is like just legit nerve endings that like other people don't have.
Right. Yeah.
So now that we've made him uncomfortable, yeah, go on, move it on.
OK, so yes, the car was delightful and lovely.
It was. And it looks amazing.
So we went, Mendocino was our northern, northernmost part.
And then we were making our way back down to San Francisco,
where we were going to fly home from. OK.
So our next stop after Mendocino was the Sonoma County, Sonoma Coast.
Yeah. OK.
On the way from Mendocino to Sonoma,
I waved at a BMW 2002 that was going the other direction, a brown one.
He was like, I think it was the same year.
Like it was another 74. OK.
He flashes headlights at me and I waved at him and we're driving along.
We're in like the middle of the country and about two minutes later, five minutes later.
Nothing. Just complete electrical failure.
No. No throttle.
I wasn't sure it was electrical because like the lights were still on,
the gauges were still working, the stereo was still on.
But I had nothing on the accelerator.
It was like either fuel or spark has stopped. OK.
And there's a ton of we're on.
We weren't on one. We were.
Oh, yeah, we were already on one on how I won.
And there was OK. There's tons of turnouts.
Yeah. We weren't right on the coast.
We were like inland a little bit in like a field.
There was like just sure.
And there was a nice turnoff.
And so I got the car stopped very calmly.
Yeah. Just like, OK, inside of the road,
was able to just like get the clutch in coast, find a spot and and get it.
And there were so many other areas that if that had happened, if we had lost all power,
I mean, we would have been like, yeah, yeah.
Really terrible, like cliff edge.
You know, like you're you're basically blocking an entire lane of traffic.
Yeah. And I will say like on a blind turn. Yeah.
Right. It lost power and we pulled over and you could see the sign for a town.
It was like town limits point arena right here.
So we were like if we had to walk into town, it would have probably had signal.
We had signal. OK. OK.
For a lot of best case scenario.
Yeah. And we were probably one mile from the center of a town.
OK. Whereas in other spots, yeah, really not.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So like very lucky.
Sure. Sure. So we get it over to the side of the road.
Ian's shooting skills kick in.
Yeah. Well, I tried it a couple of times.
Nothing. Open up the hood.
The throttle cable is still connected. OK.
I can I can it's carbureted.
I can smell gas, you know, like when we when you when you open the throttle.
So I'm like, we have we have fuel and I knew we had gas.
We had just put gas in the car.
Nothing was leaking anywhere. There wasn't anything catastrophic.
There was no big noise that happened. Right. Right.
And I'm looking around and I'm looking around and I see there's a wire
that has come off of the coil.
Oh, right. Spark to the distributor.
Yes. And it's just dangling there.
And I'm like, that can't be right.
But there's two wires on this coil and one of them.
And there's now there's only one wire on this coil.
That doesn't seem right. Right.
So I like call the guy.
I took a picture of it and I was like, I think this is it.
I think this is the problem.
And he was like, yes, that's definitely supposed to be there.
But it was so it was like one of those, you know, the like the flat terminals.
I can't remember the name of that connector type.
But it's just like the it's a flat, like rectangular terminal.
And then the connector is just like kind of is just like loosely slides on to it.
That's also rectangular.
Yeah, like a spade connector. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes. Yeah. OK.
And it was just like I could I could do it all day.
Like there was no resistance. Yeah. Yeah.
So I get that on.
And just as I'm finding that the guy in the brown BMW pulls up behind me.
No way. Yes.
What? He's in another 2002.
Oh, my car. Yes.
He had gone to get his car washed and was like headed back home.
No. Yeah.
We were like a mile from his house. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Are you kidding me?
So he pulled over and got out and and Frank.
Yeah, I was going to say, I assume you've gotten to know this guy.
Spoiler alert.
It was the guy on the other side of the train wall.
Yeah, he's been following the whole time.
Oh, and the Dave Don't Look folder I have.
There is still BMW.
There is still hope.
OK. Is the scene that has captured by Jenny.
Ah, yes.
Well, you can see that like that green sign behind him is like welcome.
Yeah, we're so lucky.
Frank is over there.
You didn't know how to get his face in it.
So I tried to just get you.
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah. And you look like you fit exactly with this BMW.
Oh, he you know, you know, he loves to play in outfits.
He definitely was like, what's going to work best with this?
Right. Right.
You're looking at like the heels of your shoes for like what rolls the best.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, this is not bad calling you out.
Ian, this is just me recognizing the effort you put into it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So it turns out Frank is very active in the 2002 owner.
You don't say.
Yeah. And so is the guy that I rent the car from.
And after all of this, they know each other from horse.
They do. Yes. OK. OK.
So partly I'm happy that Frank was there just because,
you know, I'm not always the most confident when it comes to mechanical
troubleshooting stuff. Sure.
And I was just glad to have somebody there who could be like, no,
he was doing the right.
He was making you needed a proxy.
Dave, because I'm your mechanic confidence with you.
Right. Because I was ready to call triple A. Right.
Get it on a flatbed truck.
Find another rental car.
Yeah. Nissan Ultima.
All day. I was like, well, it's done.
Right. Right.
Right. Yeah.
And I was like, let's get in there.
Like this is part of the experience.
And also, like I found a smoking gun, right?
Right. Right. Yeah.
Right. Yeah.
So I get a hook back up.
But now I go to crank it again and the starter is spinning, but not engaging.
Oh, OK.
And I don't know. I still don't know.
I still have a great explanation why I have a couple of ideas.
But it was a brand new starter.
Like I could see it. It's like super tiny in there.
And but yeah.
So the start is just spinning and not starting anything.
But I know that now I should have spark. Right.
So Frank and Jenny pushed the car and I pop started it.
OK. I told the I told the owner I was going to do that.
Started. Yeah.
We drove. I followed Frank to his house.
Oh, my God. You.
It was great. It was like.
Yeah. I borrowed a pair.
I borrowed a pair of pliers.
Uh-huh. And I squished the terminal.
I crimped the terminal back together and it stayed on.
And it felt much more secure.
And I was like, and then I turned the key and it started.
Oh, yeah. Like get a pop started again.
OK. So I don't want to, you know, I can't be running while I do.
I don't want to be running while I'm creeping this out of the terminal.
So we turned it off.
We were playing the pop story.
I was like, let me just try it and it made a weird noise,
but it worked. It started the car. OK.
And it got us all the way to our hotel.
Yeah. Without any. Any issues.
Any issues at all. I was very cautious.
I was like, yeah, I will say I did not stall this car one time.
OK. Nice.
Oh, and I was like, if I stall it right of all times.
Yeah, I'm not stalling. Right. Right.
That's exactly when I would have stalled it.
Yeah, I'm sweating bullets, but it was like, again,
it was very twisty roads to get to where we were going and the car did great.
Yeah. And then we parked it and we'd already had dinner with us.
We didn't turn off the car.
So we had that night we had planned on having like a picnic dinner sort of
situation at the next hotel. Oh, in Frank's front yard.
Yeah. And so when we stopped to get the supplies for that
Ian stayed in the car and kept the car running.
OK, sure. Yeah, which is probably good.
Yeah. Yeah.
That was really the only precaution that we took.
The most obvious getaway driver.
Well, and I was very good.
We I went to bed that night pretty confident.
You were like, this is fixed.
OK. See, that's that's the
airplane landing confidence coming back in.
I think I might have actually told Jenny that you that she needed to tell you
that I fixed the car.
And you're not thinking that you're jinxing it by saying that?
He did that. I am any car.
A dummy.
So no, I did fix it.
I fixed you fixed anything.
Any problem. Yes.
But then I think I set up a series of there may have been other problems
that were caused by all of this. OK.
So I actually think my pet theory is that a motorboat went bad
and that was part of the reason the wire got disconnected because things were
shaking. Yes. And when I cranked it,
things shook and the starter is not engaging with the flywheel anymore.
OK. That's what I think happened.
OK. I have no idea.
But OK. I don't know.
That's a theory. I don't know.
Anyway, not implausible. Yeah.
Yeah. Jenny third party verification.
That's not an insane theory. OK.
I was going to say, I think he's talked about this before about what I thought
Rowan Cole meant. Yes. So.
Not a problem. Not a problem.
You could be like it was like the fairies who live in the engine.
And like that sounds totally plausible to me as well.
Yes. Yes. OK. All right.
But anyway, we woke up the next morning and the starter just spun.
Yeah. And then we tried to popstart it and we couldn't get enough speed up.
Well, in the guy at that, like the front desk dude at the hotel
helped us popstart it, helped us try to like push it down a hill.
Sure. I was doing that in heels, but it just didn't.
Yeah. OK. All right.
So I was like, we can.
Yeah, I found a mechanic locally that we can take it to and everything else.
And but going back and forth to the owner,
we decided the best thing was to use my very good triple A coverage.
Right. Which I have for a reason that I've used twice.
Yeah. Twice.
Yeah, the big and the big and the birth.
Oh, that's right. I forgot about the.
But the inevitable.
I was I was waiting for your cue to put that picture up.
Yeah. Yeah.
And this. Oh, this tow truck driver. Oh, God.
Well, but again, I do want to say once again, we broke down in this car.
I don't know if you would call it once or twice because it felt like one long
breakdown, but in the luckiest locations, right?
It wouldn't start the next morning outside of our hotel.
Right, right. Right.
Where we could like, I could go back in and read a book.
Yeah. Look how wide the shoulder is.
Yeah. Right. So like so incredibly lucky.
As I was saying, like even the breakdowns were charming.
They were. Yeah.
The tow truck, the ride to get the next car less charming, but still.
Right. Yes.
Over over the years, over my many experiences with being
in spending time, quality time with tow truck drivers,
they are usually of a similar ilk.
And this guy was of was no exception.
Like, yes.
Just just a little bit off. Yeah.
But also, so this is a twisty road.
So we we had arranged to get another rental car in Santa Rosa.
OK.
And where we were to Santa Rosa is like this very twisty
little road. Uh-huh.
And you can tell that he has driven this road thousands of times.
Yes. Because, yeah, we're like just bombing down this road,
like this far from a guardrail.
And he's got one hand on the wheel and just chatting.
Pointing out like disc golf courses.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep. OK. OK.
You know what? He got us there. No problem.
He kind of yelled at you a little bit for picking,
because Ian just kind of looked on a map and picked a rental car place.
He was like, well, he could have picked a lot closer one.
And Ian was like, I was kind of guessing.
He was, you know, he was like, well, he's gone way out of your way for this one.
I mean, he had thoughts.
Yeah. Yeah. And he'd let you know them.
Yeah. Oh, he yelled at me a bunch of stuff.
He didn't want you sitting in the middle because he kept being like,
if you hit this, whatever, the whole car is going to explode.
Yeah. Something. Yeah.
He was like, he was like really trying to get Jenny to be in the middle
because she was she's shorter.
And I would buy not much.
But not much.
You guys are like the same height. Yeah.
And then also, like, I'm already in convincing my wife quite a bit right now.
Like, I'm going to also make her take the middle seat.
Right. Right.
Also, like a strange dude, couple, dude goes, yeah, you go to the middle.
That's chivalry.
He did not get that.
He was like, no, shortest person in the middle.
Get in there. And I was like, no, we're going to be fine.
I will sit on the outside.
I was like, oh, that makes sense.
And then I got in the seat.
I was like, I'm not going to.
I'm not even going to engage in this.
Good on you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But anyway, so then we go to the rental car place.
So we sit, we say goodbye to the car.
And I was like, had you named it?
No, but I was very, very sad to see.
Of course. Oh, he was like, I want to buy this thing.
This guy, this guy's ever selling this car.
I want this like he was in like, I want that in my life.
It is so it's so perfect.
Like it's the perfect mix of like performance and just like being really pretty.
And like, I really didn't stuff.
It's a pretty good reliance, pretty reliable car, honestly.
Like other than me, you know, being anywhere near it.
Right. OK.
But but there's not a lot to go wrong with it, right?
It's not like, yeah, there's like 75 miles of electrical wiring, you know,
like in 30 screens diagnosed the problem.
Yeah. No. Right.
Yeah. Good job, Ian. Good job.
Thank you. Yeah.
So then we get to the rental car place and just to twist the knife.
Yeah, the car they gave us was a fucking Nissan Rogue.
Oh, no.
Yeah, when he saw it, I was like, oh, I can see it in his eyes.
He's so upset. Oh, I'm so sorry.
Yeah. Yeah.
But it got us where we needed to go.
It did.
And we finished out the rest of the trip and it was great.
And really, we didn't like for all this like.
You know, yeah, we really only lost a morning.
Yeah, out of it.
Oh, yeah, we really didn't inconvenience us that much.
We had to push a wine tasting back.
So, you know, we were fine. Right.
And then they gave us free stuff because we told them about our day.
OK, you got you got pity goodies.
Yeah. OK. Wine. Yeah.
Nice. OK. Hey, that makes it better.
Yeah. But yeah, that was the only thing that we had to really push.
Yeah. And then we spent more of the next day in Gernville.
We were by a town called Gernville, which was like so, so cute.
Yeah. OK. Yeah.
And I got to hang out and got to eat lunch in a place that looked.
Oh, yeah, we should have got a picture of that.
It was it's called Pat's. You should pull it up.
Pat's International. Pat's International. OK.
And I was like, this was they used you as just like the inspiration board.
Oh, traditional Guatemalan cuisine.
It's Oh, no, Gernville, Gernville, and it's like it's.
Is this it? Yeah.
So that's the interior. OK. OK.
Like that cool, like fifties. Yeah.
Rooftile thing and then like the wood paneling.
Oh, yeah. And like the leather booths.
Yeah. The leather line booths.
Like I you fit you fit in there, but we wouldn't have spent time in Gernville
if we hadn't had the breakdown because we had to.
So we were like kind of like we had to like fill a half a day.
And it was great. It was great.
Oh, yeah. No, it all it all worked out.
Yeah. Yeah. I can completely see you in this booth.
Yeah. Yeah. He walked in there and was like, I'm yeah.
Where did this clove cigarette come from?
Yeah. OK. Nice.
What was the food like there? Was it great?
It was really good. It was it was like kind of like.
Like uppity diner food.
Yeah. OK. I had like a Korean fried chicken sandwich.
Oh, hell, yeah. That's probably what this thing is here. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. OK. It was really good.
Nice. OK. OK.
Yeah. It's warm here.
So at what point during the trip, did you overlay your arc
of like the vacation with your overall relationship?
Like were there correlations made of like the rental car and the journey?
Like with the broader scope of your relationship?
I'm just wasn't thinking that deep.
I think other than me, that's deeper than I guess.
I think to talk Jenny into not giving up on the car immediately.
Oh, yeah. There were several because you didn't talk about you also like.
Oh, yeah. It did flood one time when I started.
So he sure. Yeah.
So there's, you know, it's a carburetor car.
It's easy to do. Yeah.
But he had a there's a system on the BMW
that feeds extra fuel to the carburetor on startup.
And he had put a valve into that onto that line, which is a genius mod to do.
So I texted him and I was like, it's not starting.
He's like, oh, it's you can flood it, you know.
So just and I showed him I had already taken a picture.
Of the valve that I thought he yeah, that made sense.
And he was like, yeah, just close that completely.
And then it should start right up and dead. Oh, OK.
But I was on my phone like this is how far it is to a car rental place.
This is what we can get here.
So we get like that's very mean.
And I was like, clearly this car is done. Right.
We need to figure out the next like the next solution.
And Ian was like, well, I'm going to sit here
and I'm going to try and start this car about 45 times. Right.
Where I would have given it twice.
Where I was like, sure, I'm going to move on.
Yeah, no, no, there's me.
Yeah, honestly, the thing that keeps cars like that running is persistence.
Yeah, yeah, like that is that is the thing
that makes those kinds of those kinds of cars still go down the road these days.
Like, yeah, well, there's not much to go.
Like they're really simple. True.
Ironically, yeah.
But it takes energy to keep it going.
For sure. Yeah.
The amount that is put in versus like, say, a Nissan Rogue that is, you know,
yeah, essentially flicked off the line like a, you know, lit cigarette at you.
Yeah, yeah. Well, but also like if a Nissan Rogue
gave me the slightest bit of problems, I would just set fire to it.
Right. Right. Thank you.
Yeah, because it's a cost benefit analysis of like,
is it worth the energy that I'm putting in to keep this on the road? Right.
Yeah. Yeah, I get it.
That's amazing.
And I'm sorry that you had to spend time in a Nissan Rogue.
You know, it did feel like a little like FU to it.
And that's what it felt like.
Then it was like, oh, right.
Like you had this car that you really loved.
And then now you have to finish the trip in this thing.
And the worst car.
At least it wasn't a dodged journey, man. Like that's true.
Yeah, that would be the only thing worse. Yeah. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then you're somehow in the Nissan Rogue owners club now.
And you're a guy in the Nissan Rogue stop.
Right. Yeah.
I'm on the forums. Yeah.
OK, OK.
Well, I mean, good on you for shooting your shot and like
having an adventure with it. You know, oh, we had an adventure.
Yeah, for sure.
And I would 100 percent rent this exact same car again.
Yeah. If you if you want to have me.
I can see him putting limits on how far away.
Because that was part of the thing.
It was like, oh, we are on the Sonoma.
We were 120 miles away. Yeah.
And we need to get this back now. Right.
Just get Jose.
I can see him being like, you have to stay within 50 miles.
Sure. Sure.
Which would have been smart.
But I was like, and I told him from the start.
I was like, this is what I'm doing.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, you don't like hide stuff like that from people.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
We're in Mexico.
Is that a problem?
Yeah. OK. All right.
There's one.
And so I was a little hesitant to click on some of these
or to share them because I didn't want to like spoil any parts of the story.
There's one called Mossy Roof.
It's OK if I put that one on.
Oh, yeah. OK.
That's really pretty. OK.
So there's like a cabinish kind of like old.
There was a little hike that we did.
Yeah. OK.
Like, is that like a ranger station?
Yeah. OK. Cool.
Yeah. Yeah.
And that part of the country, everything has moss on it.
There's ferns everywhere.
It's so lush. Yeah.
It was so pretty. It was so pretty.
The humidity is doing insane things to Ian's hair.
Ian's hair looks amazing.
Ian's hair always looks amazing.
My hair was about this big.
We went to upstate New York and our granddaughter Grace has like really tight,
curly hair and like in July in upstate New York, it was just poosh.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that the humidity got you, Jenny.
It was so big.
My hair was very happy.
It was like, this is what I want to be.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. This is where I belong. OK.
OK. Well, yeah.
I mean, Ian, I love like I love the idea of like you like finding this.
I love you, both of you doing this is this fantastic.
Yeah. And like, yeah, it's it's an old car.
It's going to break down like that's what they do.
That is honestly what they do.
And if you think that they're not going to, yeah, I got news for you.
The owner was very like, he was like, I'm embarrassed and I'm so sorry.
And I was like, oh, please, like this is.
If anyone gets it.
Yeah, I was like, let me tell you about all the times I've broken down.
And and like I'm I've driven older cars.
Like I know I understand what this is.
And I would still 100 percent buy this car from you.
You know, yeah, this is great.
So this is the worst breakdown you have.
Like that's that's saying something. Yeah.
And really, it felt like fun and special.
And we wanted to do something that felt interesting.
Interesting. Yeah.
Anniversary. Exactly.
I think we really fit.
Yeah. Right.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
That's so great that you both did that.
Yeah. Yeah.
I love that shade of green.
Green is my favorite color.
Like, oh, man, that looks so good.
Yeah. Right.
It was so pretty. Yeah.
Pretty. Yeah.
Um, now that we've told that story.
Would you like to play a license plate game?
I would. I would.
Are there going to be a bunch of California plates in here
because there's a lot of vanity plates in California.
There are a lot of any place.
Unfortunate. Well, because I was very busy driving.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're driving in as like, take a picture of that.
You can trip that license plate all the time.
I was not reading license plates.
I was concentrating.
Yeah. He didn't ask me to take a license plate.
OK. You didn't have to serve.
You're welcome.
Oh, yeah.
You didn't have to serve as photo interned at all.
OK. OK. All right.
Yeah, I would like to play a license plate game.
And I assume Jenny, you and I are both playing this.
Yes. So Jenny has not seen these.
OK. I tried to this one is is in honor of Jenny.
Oh, God. Oh, OK.
In honor of the fanciest lady that I know.
Ah, OK. This one's called someone's fancy.
Yeah. Oh, OK. Someone's fancy.
OK. It does have to be said like that, huh?
As we said, at you and not about you.
OK. All right.
Someone's fancy. OK.
Oh, my God. Too bougie.
Yeah. Yeah.
Why don't you run through the cars
and Jenny can run through the place?
Yeah. So we have a BMW 760 I up top or 750.
We've got a Rivian truck
and then we have a Hyundai Santa Cruz that is parked very poorly.
And yeah, treading into a handicapped spot.
Handicapped spot.
We'll do some zoomies and enhances. Don't worry.
OK. Jenny, give us the plates.
Well, so here's my thing. I feel like.
Well, read the plates first. Oh, oh, oh.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Too bougie.
Oh, extra with two X's and ritzy.
Ritzy. OK.
The problem is I feel like these all go with the BMW
because why why would trucks have those?
That is not how the game works.
I know, I know that. I know, but like.
So this is always tells people
this rewards, gross generalizations, right?
Use them, zoomies and enhances. OK.
So we'll look at the BMW.
So Jenny, this BMW probably cost $140,000.
Like it's insane.
You're assuming that's the first owner.
Assuming, yes.
But and they have a bedazzled license plate frame.
So like you see, you know, OK.
So like you and I are looking for stuff like that.
It's it has some heavy tint.
OK. And it cover up the relevant.
That is this is a New Mexico plate.
So OK. Heavy tint is kind of.
Ah, gotcha. OK.
OK. Gotcha.
And I'm not really seeing like anything else that I'm keying on.
Jenny, like, yeah. OK.
And then we're going to go to the Rivian.
It's Colorado.
They also can't park.
They're on the line.
And that is, yeah, is someone laying on the ground next to this?
Are they OK?
There's soccer practice.
Oh, OK.
I think it's probably a.
Yeah.
But I'm not.
Yeah, they've got like the ski racks and stuff on the back.
But that's what it.
Yeah. Nothing else.
Right. It's my frame.
Yeah. OK.
They just raw dog that plate straight onto the car,
which is a huge no no for me, Jenny.
This is the hill all die on.
You have to have a frame on your license plate.
One of our biggest fights because you we don't have any.
No. OK.
I have no thoughts on life.
You don't have a plate frame.
I thought you did for your dealer.
We don't. Oh, no, it's just on there.
Shows over everybody.
OK.
OK.
Yeah. OK.
Then we have the Santa Cruz with some stickers.
On the back window.
Yeah.
Like that's it's like a weird like monarch butterfly
Bratz doll gothic kind of thing, right?
Yes, it is very doffy.
And then what is that?
Like a like a skull or something?
Yeah.
Oh, so so this is kind of like a little truck.
It has like a bed, like a little truck.
And so I think this is like this is in the bed of the truck,
like maybe sticking up.
Yeah. Oh, you think that's an actual thing, not a sticker.
I think that this is a 3D object here.
Like, yeah, I think I could be wrong.
I don't know.
I did take this picture. I don't remember.
Yeah. This one have anything around the license plate?
Also the dozzled. OK.
All right.
And it says old man addition.
No, it doesn't.
Oh, OK.
And the very, very poor parking into a handicap spot
into a handicap spot.
OK, I think I've got mine.
OK, let's hear it. Yeah, run me through it.
So I think I'm probably wrong on all these.
I think the BMW.
You trust your gut.
Trust your gut.
And the BMW is ritzy.
OK.
The Rivian is extra and the Santa Cruz is too bougie.
No, no, I think the Rivian is too bougie
and the Santa Cruz is extra.
OK, there is one thing that I just realized.
So the model of that Rivian is the R1T.
Oh, well, that's the that's ritzy then, right?
That's what I'm thinking.
That's what I'm thinking.
I just now noticed that when we went back to the plates.
I was wondering if you guys want to get that.
I I think that I think the Rivian is ritzy.
The Rivian has to be ritzy.
Yeah, OK, so then we got bougie and extra, too bougie and extra.
Oh, and they're both bedazzled.
Yes. OK, so then I'm going to say the BMW is too bougie
because bougie feels more like a BMW driver's word.
Right. And the Santa Cruz is extra.
OK. With the two X's.
I think I think I'm going to go opposite you on the BMW
and the Santa Cruz because I think the BMW.
I think there is a model below that 750.
There might be a 740.
And I think that they're like, this is this is extra.
Like I I I'm not extra.
The car is extra.
One time, someone got me a birthday card that said, OK, this is
I've never I don't know if I've ever told anybody this other than my wife.
Somebody got me a birthday card once and said
on the front was like, you're you're like guacamole.
And then on the inside, it said, you're extra, but you're worth it.
That is a strange birthday card.
That's mean, right?
Did I get bullied on my birthday?
They bullied me and gave me an Amazon gift card.
Right, right.
Yeah, I feel that's the kind of card that you have to be sure
the person was going to land with him.
Yeah, like I'd have to be made.
My entire personality would have to be avocados for that to make sense.
Yeah.
What would be really funny is if you looked up from that going, what?
But you have a dazzled hat that said, I'm extra on it.
Yeah, I dare you.
Sick burn.
Yeah. So OK, so I'm going extra on the BMW.
And to it doesn't feel right.
It doesn't feel right.
I think you're right, Jenny.
I think you're right on that Santa Cruz doesn't feel with those stickers.
Yes. Yes.
Someone with those stickers using the word bougie.
Yes, I think you're right.
I am going to go with with what you say.
Yeah, because I think that the Santa Cruz is the person
that would love that card, right?
They're like, I am extra.
Yeah, then that's my personality, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
They're the kind of person that's like, I'm not here to make friends.
OK, so I'm going to venture back into the Dave, don't look folder.
Yeah. So the good news is my wife did say the right answer.
Unfortunately, it was my podcast wife who said it.
Oh, really?
Oh, it's too busy on the Santa Cruz extra on the BMW.
Good job, Dave.
One to you.
Well, I changed my answer to go with what you said.
So yeah, so you both got it wrong.
We did.
That Santa Cruz saying too bougie feels so wrong, so wrong, so wrong.
But I think that it is that like with that BMW,
I think that there's a model below it and they want to brag that they have the
better one.
That's a very big car.
It's very long.
Yeah, I think that's the two X's like it's XL.
I think that's part of it.
Yeah, as nice as my last sedan was, like, that's a whole another level over that.
Yeah, like, yeah, that's a lot.
Thanks for playing.
No, because I think one of the things about this game is that like
you have to sit with the fact that like there is like the thing that you thought
was wrong and now like the fact that that person has a too bougie license plate
fucks with me.
Like, I don't like that, right?
Like, no, did you think about that?
Right. Yes.
We've had we've had games like that before where we're like, you know what?
Your explanation is better.
We should hunt these people down and get them to trade plates.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we also do want to start a task force that like swoops in when people
are applying for these at the DMV.
Like I dropped down like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible from the ceiling
and I'm like, so what are you doing?
But why are we going with this plate?
Extra, huh?
Why are we doing that?
Uh huh.
So yeah, well, thank you for playing the license plate game.
Good job being collection.
Yeah, thank you.
Well done, everybody.
Um, should we wrap it up with an album of the week?
Yeah, I would love that.
This album is very special.
It is once again, a 2005 album I was hoping we would run with anniversary
celebration here, but it's also very special in that, um,
it's just a rare proof that I was right about something.
Oh, my God.
Oh, no.
So I showed Jenny.
I showed Jenny the plate.
Now there's two people that can roll their eyes at you on the show again.
So yeah, are you sure?
Yeah, you sure you want to go down this road?
I showed Jenny the playlist that I made and I was like, which one of these
did you like was a favorite or like something you forgot about or something
like that? And she identified some songs from, uh, apologies to the
Queen Mary by Wolf Parade 2005 record and Doves.
I said Doves and Doves, but I had just, I just did a couple of weeks.
So, um, so we're going to do that, that album.
But I remember when that album came out, because we were already a couple.
Jenny did not like it.
And then I have no memory of that.
And then, uh, yeah, I think you thought the voice was too yelpy.
You used to not like the voice.
Hi. But anyway, this is Wolf Parade's first record.
It's fucking fantastic.
It's really, really good.
Very indie rock, uh, of the moment, early aughts sort of, uh, sort of record.
It's a pretty, it's a pretty album cover.
Yeah, it's a pretty album cover for that era.
I like it. A lot of the album covers were awful.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
So you are, you're basically gloating that you're right, that this was a
good album with staying power.
Yep. Even though there was a nice air.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't remember being a nice air about this.
Okay.
Because when he put this on the playlist, I was like, oh, Wolf Parade.
I forgot. I didn't know they were around then.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, because yeah, I stopped playing him around the house
because I thought you didn't like him.
So. Yeah.
Meanwhile, we're hooking into deep emotional trauma that he's been
caring for 20 years.
I finally revealed the Wolf Parade taxi member for the last 20 years.
This is why he's always facing me.
You're Wolf Parade trampstampion.
Nice. Okay. Okay.
All right. Well, yeah, we will put links in the YouTube description for sure.
Wolf Parade.
The 2005 album playlist.
The Queen Mary, yes.
Do you have the ability to share like the entire playlist?
Is that something you would do?
I can.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can do that.
Yeah, it's on YouTube music, so it should work.
Yeah.
It has some good stuff on it.
I'm sure. Yeah.
Excuse me.
Right on. Okay.
Well, I think we done did a car show.
Yeah, we did.
We did. Thank you, Jenny, for coming on to
to provide perspective on Ian's decision making
and how all of it panned out.
I appreciate your your take on it.
He was such a he was such a happy Ian.
He was such a happy Ian in that little car.
Right. Hey, that's OK.
But like seeing that, like recognizing that, supporting that, you know, like
that's awesome. That's so great.
You know, yeah, that's so awesome.
Congratulations on 20 years.
Oh, thank you.
You know, yeah.
So I'll say one person on the trip did ask us what our secret was.
Oh, shit, you had to deal with those folks.
OK. No, we I.
Yeah. And we were both like, what?
Well, I had a response right away.
It was so dumb.
I thought it was funny.
Jenny thought it was less so.
I said, well, I've been in the coma for 15 years.
And I was like, that only plays with a certain audience.
Not the person leading our wine tour who, like, doesn't get a lot of jokes.
But importantly, I thought it was hilarious.
See, and I think what just happened here is was the magic that has kept you going.
Like what I just witnessed where you're like,
I thought I was funny and Jenny was like, yeah.
Yeah. But she also tried to take a shoot.
She was like, oh, my God, let me take pictures of you guys.
Oh, my God. And then she was like, hold hands.
And I was like, what?
We'll like walk in each other's vicinity, I guess.
She makes you do those like Sears Portrait Studio.
Yeah, I was like, no, that's not our vibe.
She just pulls down a portrait backdrop.
Yeah. Yeah.
She was like, hold hands.
We just do it like a purse handshake before seven PM. No.
OK, OK. Well, yes.
Congratulations. Congratulations for sure.
And thank you. Thank you, Jenny, for spending time with us.
Yeah, it was.
It's gotten progressively more horse.
No, no, no. Yeah.
It's December. We're all sick. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. OK.
Well, everybody, send us cars or show us your cars.
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Thank you. We love you. Goodbye.
About this episode
Celebrating their 20th anniversary, Ian and Jenny share their unique travel experience taking a train from Denver to San Francisco. They discuss the joys and quirks of train travel, including a charming breakdown of their rented 1974 BMW 2002 T.I.I. on a scenic drive. The couple navigates mechanical challenges with humor and camaraderie, revealing insights into their relationship along the way. With engaging anecdotes and a lighthearted tone, this episode highlights the adventures that come with vintage cars and the unexpected moments that make travel memorable.
This week Ian and Jenny tell us all about their 20th anniversary vacation! You'll hear all about he highs and lows of vintage car rental, how to fix a train cabin with a USB cable and more! Congrats on 20 years! We love you!