{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"\"8 Hours To 2 Minutes\" — The Response Time Fix That Sold More Cars Across 100 Dealerships | Paul de Vries, Founder DCDW","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/8-hours-to-2-minutes-the-response-time-fix-that-sold-more-cars-across-100-dealerships-paul-de-vries-founder-dcdw","audioUrl":"https://anchor.fm/s/1094c7cb4/podcast/play/118417787/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-14%2F422017561-44100-2-8fac1e0071386.mp3","description":"Is your dealership struggling to convert online leads into showroom appointments? You’re not alone. Many automotive professionals focus on getting leads, but miss the critical step of engaging them effectively to drive sales.Here’s what you’ll get from this episode:Implement Paul de Vries’ 6-step lead-handling process to increase appointments.**Understand the crucial role of speed and human connection in online lead conversion.**Learn how to best integrate AI to support, not replace, human sales efforts.**Discover how to build a team that excels at lead follow-up and customer engagement.**Paul de Vries, founder of the Digital Car Dealer Workshop and BDC co-owner, shares his proven methodology for dramatically improving lead response times and, most importantly, turning those leads into sales.Timestamps00:00 Intro03:27 AI vs Human Connection06:22 Six Steps to Better Calls09:49 Speed to Contact Results11:05 Hiring and Coaching BDC Teams12:36 EVs and Chinese Brands in Europe15:03 Wrap Up\n"},"annotations":[{"startTime":27.1,"endTime":32.5,"type":"company","title":"digital car dealer workshop","url":"/glossary/digital-car-dealer-workshop","quote":"You are the founder of the digital car dealer workshop. 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