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Honda Odyssey
The Honda Odyssey is a family minivan that offers a lot of space and comfort for passengers. The 2004 version is known for being a reliable choice for families.
Term
engine warning light
The engine warning light is a signal on your dashboard that something might be wrong with your car's engine. It’s important to check it out to avoid bigger problems later.
Car
Suzuki Acty
The Suzuki Acty is a tiny truck that's great for city driving and carrying small loads. It's very popular in Japan for its size and efficiency.
Car
Honda Civic Type-R
The Honda Civic Type-R is a sportier version of the regular Civic, designed for speed and fun driving. It has a powerful engine and is very popular among people who love cars.
Car
Honda S600
The Honda S600 is a small, old sports car that is very rare and special. It was one of the first cars that helped Honda become famous for making fun and fast cars.
Concept
Dutton rally
The Dutton rally is a car event where people drive and compete over several days, doing different challenges along the way. It's a fun way for car lovers to enjoy driving and test their skills.
Concept
Adelaide Grand Prix
The Adelaide Grand Prix was a big car race that took place in Adelaide, Australia. It was part of the Formula 1 series and was famous for its exciting street racing.
Car
Honda N360
The Honda N360 is a small car made by Honda in the 1970s. It has a tiny engine and is very lightweight, which made it easy to drive and park in crowded places.
Car
Acura Nsxs
The Acura NSX is a fast sports car that was made to compete with other high-end cars. It's special because it has a unique design and is very fun to drive, making it popular among car lovers.
Car
Honda NSX
The Honda NSX is a fast sports car made by Honda, famous for its sleek design and powerful performance.
Car
Lamborghini Diablo
The Lamborghini Diablo is a famous sports car made by Lamborghini. It has a powerful engine and a unique design, and it was one of the fastest cars when it was released.
Part
differential
A differential is a part of a car that helps the wheels turn at different speeds, especially when going around corners. It makes driving smoother and helps with handling.
Part
clutch
A clutch is a part that helps you change gears in a car. It connects and disconnects the engine from the wheels, making it easier to switch between different speeds.
Term
110Ks
'110Ks' means driving at a speed of 110 kilometers per hour, which is about 68 miles per hour.
Term
battery
A battery in a car helps start the engine and powers things like lights and radio when the engine isn't running.
Car
Mitsubishi Magna
The Mitsubishi Magna is a car made by Mitsubishi that was popular in Australia. It's known for being comfortable and reliable.
Car
Mitsubishi VRX
The Mitsubishi VRX is a sportier version of the Magna, which means it has better performance and features for a more exciting drive.
Car
Ford Laser
The Ford Laser is a small car that Ford made a while back. It's known for being dependable and good for everyday use.
Car
Ford Excursion
The Ford Excursion is a very big SUV that can carry a lot of people and things. It’s great for families who need extra space and want to go on adventures.
Car
Toyota Kluger
The Toyota Kluger is a family SUV that offers a lot of space and comfort for passengers. It's designed for everyday use and is known for being reliable.
Car
Ford Fiesta
The Ford Fiesta is a small car that is easy to drive and park, especially in busy city areas.
Car
Toyota MR2
The Toyota MR2 is a small sports car that has its engine in the middle, which helps it handle well on the road.
Car
GMC Typhoon
The GMC Typhoon is a fast SUV that was made in the 1990s. It’s special because it was one of the first SUVs designed to be sporty and fun to drive.
Car
Holden Typhoon
The Holden Typhoon is a powerful car that is designed for speed and performance, making it exciting to drive.
Term
CVT
A CVT is a type of car transmission that helps the car change gears smoothly without the usual steps of traditional automatic transmissions.
Car
Subaru Forester
The Subaru Forester is a type of car that is good for driving in different weather conditions and is often used for outdoor activities.
Term
external slave cylinder
The external slave cylinder is a part that helps the car's clutch work. When you press the clutch pedal, this part helps to disconnect the engine from the wheels so you can change gears.
Car
Toyota Camry
The Toyota Camry is a popular family car that is known for being safe and reliable. Many people choose it because it’s comfortable to drive and doesn’t usually have many problems.
Car
Volvo 240
The Volvo 240 is a car made by Volvo that was popular for being very reliable and lasting a long time. Many people still like these cars today.
Car
Ford Territory Turbo
The Ford Territory Turbo is a type of SUV made by Ford in 2009. It's known for being roomy and having a turbo engine, which helps it perform better than regular engines.
Term
kilowatt
A kilowatt is a way to measure how powerful an engine is. When someone says an engine has 300 kilowatts, it means it can produce a lot of power.
Car
Subaru Liberty GT
The Subaru Liberty GT is a sporty version of the Liberty car, which has a powerful engine and special features that make it more fun to drive.
Company
STI
STI is a part of Subaru that makes cars go faster and handle better. They take regular Subaru cars and add special features to make them more exciting to drive.
Term
Brembo brakes
Brembo brakes are special brakes that help cars stop quickly and safely. They are often found on fast cars because they work really well under pressure.
Term
turbo
A turbo is a part that helps an engine produce more power by pushing in extra air. This makes the car go faster, but it needs to be set up correctly to avoid problems.
Car
Toyota Crown
The Toyota Crown is a fancy car that is known for being very comfortable and having lots of features. It’s popular in Japan and is considered a luxury vehicle.
Car
Holden Caprice
The Holden Caprice is a big, fancy car that is very comfortable to ride in. It’s often used by people who want a luxury experience or need a car for special occasions.
Car
Skoda Octavia
The Skoda Octavia is a small car that has a lot of room inside for passengers and luggage. It’s a good choice for people who want a reliable car without spending too much money.
Car
Volkswagen Golf
The Volkswagen Golf is a small car that is great for everyday use. It’s known for being fun to drive and has a lot of space inside for passengers and cargo.
Car
Porsche Macan
The Porsche Macan is a fancy SUV that drives like a sports car. People like it because it’s comfortable and has a lot of features, making it great for families.
Car
Volkswagen Touareg
The Volkswagen Touareg is a fancy SUV that is good for both city driving and off-road adventures. It has a lot of comfortable features and is built to last.
Car
Volvo V50
The Volvo V50 is a small wagon that is very safe and has a lot of space inside. It’s a good choice for families who need room for kids and gear.
Car
Holden Commodore
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Holden Commodore Wagon
The Holden Commodore Wagon is a roomy car that can carry a lot of stuff. It’s popular in Australia because it’s practical for families and has a good engine.
Car
Hyundai I40
The Hyundai i40 Wagon is a family car that has a lot of space for things like groceries and luggage. It’s designed to be practical and comfortable for everyday use.
Car
Toyota Alphard
The Toyota Alphard is a large van that is very comfortable and has lots of space for people. It’s often used by families or for special events because of how nice it is inside.
Car
Maruti R Wagon
The Maruti Suzuki Wagon R is a small car that is very affordable and practical. It has a lot of room inside and is great for driving around the city.
Car
Mazda 6
The Mazda 6 MPS is a sportier version of the regular Mazda 6, designed for people who want a fun driving experience. It has a powerful engine and is still practical for everyday use.
Car
Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang is a classic American sports car that is famous for being fast and stylish. Many people love it because it looks cool and is fun to drive.
Car
Mitsubishi Lancer
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is a powerful car made for racing and fast driving. It’s known for its great handling and speed, making it popular with car fans.
Car
Hyundai Ioniq 5N
The Hyundai Ioniq 5 N is a new electric car that is designed to be fast and fun to drive. It has modern technology and is part of the trend toward more environmentally friendly vehicles.
Car
Hyundai i30
The Hyundai i30 is a small car that is easy to drive and has a lot of room inside. It’s a good choice for people who want a reliable and affordable vehicle.
Car
Hyundai Sonata
The Hyundai Sonata is a comfortable family car that is easy to drive. It has a lot of space inside and comes with many features for a good price.
Car
Hyundai Kona
The Hyundai Kona is a small SUV that is great for city driving. It has a cool design and is easy to park, making it a favorite for many people.
Car
Ford Focus RS
The Ford Focus RS is a sporty version of the regular Focus car, designed for speed and fun driving. It has a powerful engine and is loved by people who enjoy racing.
Car
Bmw M1
The BMW M1 is a classic sports car that is very rare and special. It was one of the first cars made by BMW to be designed for speed and performance.
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It's Tuesday night here in 90.9 Northwest FM.
It's me, Matty J, online with Mr. David Prince, Mr. Jim Barlow,
Mr. Scotty Doe Johnson.
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Oh, good, good.
Doing good. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Very good to see you guys.
Smallest show tonight, but that's good.
It's a quality, not quantity on this beloved little podcast of ours, guys.
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Plenty to talk about tonight.
I'll give you guys a bit of a challenge, which we'll talk about a little bit later.
But let's crack on with some car updates.
David Prince, updates with you, my friend.
Updates with me.
Okay.
It's been a busy car week.
Obviously last Tuesday night's podcast went, I was going to say unexpectedly,
but there were people that fully expected it to happen.
So we bought an Odyssey on the podcast last week.
Not just any of the Odyssey, but the one that I bought new in 2004 is now
back in the world.
Well, I bought it.
So it's technically an Ed Tom Bunting's motors car.
Just out of curiosity, David, what did it feel like when you saw it,
like when you walked up to it for the first time after all these years?
It was surreal.
It was the best way to describe it.
I've actually got a little video I'll send you before we actually,
we waited outside for it because you go in and sort out the money and all that sort of stuff.
And then they said, I'll wait here.
Well, someone will go and get it because there are hundreds of cars down there,
hundreds of cars.
So we could see it.
It was like a shark moving through shallow water.
You could just see the roof rails above all the cars.
All like, there it is.
There it is.
It's coming.
It turned into the area just in front of where we were standing.
There were three people in it.
Why?
I wasn't paying for other people.
Like I didn't want to, you know, I just wanted the car.
And the, yeah, they had a couple of the others workers.
They were running people around in it to pick up other cars sort of thing.
So handy seven-seater, I suppose.
What the hell?
But we were pleasantly surprised with the condition.
I mean, it's certainly a pristine, but it will need, you know,
decent cut and polish, but the interior, while it's, again, you know,
needs a good clean, it will come up really well.
Yeah.
It's surreal is the best way to describe it.
It was, but I got into it.
It smelled the same.
I don't think it meant smoked in.
It was absolutely spotless.
And so it actually felt very comfortable.
Shifted nicely through the gears.
Did it seem like it, it seemed like it's had a life or was it,
you reckon it's, it's, it's kilometers were not overly thrashed,
but, but, but cherished.
Who would, other than people on this podcast, do you know many people
that cherish their cars, especially if they've got multiple
children requiring a seven-seater?
Not necessarily, but sometimes, sometimes.
Sometimes you can be lucky.
Look, it, let me answer that question properly in a couple of weeks
time when we've had a good, good rummage through it and a good
clean and a good scrub of it.
Okay.
But the tires are good.
You know, it, it did, of course, typical graze car that you would buy,
drove off.
It had an engine warning light come on, which is, you know,
not unusual.
Wasn't mentioned in the ad and probably wasn't on often those things
once the car heats up properly and the like it.
But yeah, it, it, it's running much better now.
It has a new fuel pump.
So it, once we filled it with petrol, it wasn't happy at all,
but it has a fuel pump.
And this week it's actually getting though the workshop was flat out,
but we're getting checked over road with you this week and see what
else needs to be done to it.
But yeah, exciting prospect to have it back in the, back in the family.
So am I able to ask what is the possible plan for this car?
Good question.
Good question.
Let's ask me next week.
But the key, the, the important thing was, I mean, the gearbox seems fine.
I mean, it shifted beautifully and smoothly through all the gears.
There was no delay between, you know, going to reversal drive,
all those sorts of things.
Did make any strange noises.
Road really nicely actually.
And good question.
Again, I'm not, not completely sure.
I haven't had a good look under it yet, but it wasn't rattly and horrible.
And like you would imagine the 3000, the 300,000 K car to be,
somebody even did mention it to the fill of the fuel pump in said,
wow, he said it drives much better than the 300,000 K car has got any right to.
Okay.
If you've driven, I've driven plenty of euros and stuff with,
with that sort of case on them and they still drive great.
So the bones are all there, which is what you want.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
So that's exciting.
So that's the, that's the Odyssey.
That's the Odyssey.
Saturday, we had a big car club get together, which two of the four people
on this, three of the four people on this podcast attended,
which we have a 40 foot container with our club that we have a lot of old spare parts in,
and we usually have a meeting there once a month.
Well, this, this month we decided to do a twilight meeting rather than a Saturday morning meeting.
And it seems like it was a really good idea because I think we ended up with about 45 people there, I think.
I had a coffee van, we had barbecue, and the weather was absolutely perfect.
Lucky considering what the last couple of days have been like a bit of a washout had, had we waited, but it was perfect.
The weather was great.
The turnout was great.
There was some really interesting cars there.
There was some new members.
We had new members come along with everything from a 96 Acti under Acti K truck to a four, four week old Civic Type R.
So a 26 spec, 26.
Wow.
Yeah, one of the very last spec cars.
Another, another guy that was there.
I met many years ago before I started with New Life, so over 40 years ago when I was working in the public service.
And we've kept in touch over the years.
He lives in the same suburb.
He's always been a bit of a car guy coming to a little bit of money in recent years and decide he'd always wanted an S600.
So he's bought a Honda S600.
His first Honda.
So go for it.
Nothing like buying an early 60 year old car for your first, first taste of the brand.
I know, right?
Funny how.
But the other cool thing, I won't, I won't go on about it, but the other cool thing was this week actually was a really good anniversary for me because
I shared on social media, but the, it's 30 years ago this week since a mate and I did the Dutton rally to Adelaide for the last Adelaide Grand Prix.
So most, a lot of us will know of Dutton in Richmond, Dutton garage as it is now.
Long bean purveyors are very fine exotic cars.
And the back in the day when the Grand Prix started in Adelaide, they would run a rally every year from Melbourne to Adelaide for the rally.
And so it was five days and you do a series of tests over the five days.
You wouldn't just drive Melbourne to Adelaide.
We actually went up via Shepard and I think Swan Hill.
Oh, yeah, that way.
Yeah, up through Mildura across to Renmark or something like that in South Australia, then down through the Barossa Valley into Adelaide that way.
So you do, there were motor carna stages and there were sprint stages, there were navigation stages and all that sort of thing each day as part of the drive.
And my 1970 Honda N360 scamp.
So two cylinder air cooled little, little red rocket.
A mate and I from the club actually entered that car in the rally and had lots of people poking and laughing at us on the first night.
And saying, oh, how cute.
Look at that by about day two or three.
They weren't laughing quite so much because we actually blitzed a lot of the navigation stages.
Murray, the guy from the club who came with me was a gun navigator and the actual current Victorian motor carna championship at the champion at the time.
Oh, wow.
I didn't know that about him.
Yeah, he's a very good driver.
And hence I've got some fantastic photos of the scamp on three wheels.
Three wheels.
So we actually blitzed the field.
So we ended up 16th outright out of 145 cars, I think it was, which was pretty cool for a little two cylinder air cooled car.
50 year old, actually well, 50 years old then.
Well, it was 25 years old then.
And we had a brilliant, brilliant week.
So it's been really fun looking through some photos and reminiscing about that and remembering that.
The whole thing started because I'd seen the Dutton cars, the Dutton rally cars the day before the Grand Prix on the Saturday would actually do a lap of the track, you know,
with the commentary of which cars are which and stuff like that.
And I always thought how cool it would be to do that in the scamp.
I talked to a few people and they said, well, you know, you don't pay for yourself.
You get sponsorship, you know, so we were lucky enough to get some sponsorship from under Australia.
How did you go about getting that done?
Like, did you just say, hey, could you guys sponsor us?
Or like, or did you?
Oh, interestingly, Kat's sister at the time was working in event management and things like that and event development and the like.
So she put a package together like that they could hardly refuse, you know, it was a marketing opportunity, you know, for Honda and the like,
the head of Honda Public Relations at the time was wrapped because we got in early and they gave us some money,
which allowed us to rebuild the engine in the car or freshen it up and pay for our accommodation,
the money they gave us paid for our accommodation and Adelaide for the week and stuff.
Oh, that's awesome.
And covered the entry fee to the rally.
So it was it was fantastic and he just thought it was gold because after that they had a couple of people with NSX's and things like that,
you know, wanting them to, you know, sponsor them.
And they said, I actually were already sponsoring a car in the Dutton rally.
So that was the perfect excuse not to have to deal with a whole lot of people that just expected that they'd be sponsored.
But the funny, the coolest part or the funniest part was Jeff Dutton who owned Dutton at the time was a customer of mine and lovely bloke.
I've known Jeff for a long, long time and his family.
And he said, Murray, my co-driver and navigator as a real numbers guy,
and he actually worked out that the two cylinder 360cc Honda scamp produced more kilowatts per litre than a Lamborghini Diablo with just like,
it just lacked severely in the in the liters department because it was a 0.36 of a litre.
So the Honda thought this was hilarious and they put out a press release to say that Honda's 25 year old entrant in Dutton rally produces more kilowatts per litre than a Lamborghini Diablo,
made a real big song and dance about it.
Jeff Dutton wasn't too enthused by that because he had imported a Diablo to do the rally that year.
It was the first Diablo in the country from memory.
He didn't talk to me for a little while after that.
We're mates now.
So that's water under the bridge, but it was hilarious.
So that's the scam.
One of the scams claims to fame.
So David, if I'm able to meet that guy and say, hey, remember that time an old Honda had more kilowatts per litre than your Diablo?
Do you reckon he'd quickly...
Probably was not too.
The really cool thing was that little car just ran so well and ran better and better every day.
The start line was in Ballarat and we sort of nursed it up to Ballarat.
It was the furthest I've ever driven it to Ballarat.
And then we had this whole rally ahead of us and we nursed it up there and stopped on the way.
You didn't give a break and kept going.
And then as we progressed through the rally, it just ran so well.
And as I said, got better every day.
The top speed it was happy at, you know, sort of climbed every day.
And it would sit on 60, 65 miles an hour for hours on end.
I mean, it was just great.
It was not...
It was noisy.
There's no two ways about that.
But it would sit happily on that speed.
But we'd bid the hotels at night and there'd be guys, you know, pulling differentials out
and they'd be changing clutches and all this sort of stuff in the motel car parks.
I said to Murray, shouldn't we like, you know, check or open the bonnet or something?
Nope.
Nope.
Just leave it as it is.
Just it needs nothing done to it.
And it just sailed all the way to Adelaide and round the track.
It was brilliant.
Really, really great.
Did you drive at home?
No, we actually put on a train to come home.
It had got a train ride home.
Yeah.
I... Kath actually came over from memory and we had a week or so in Adelaide seeing some friends after the rally.
And, yeah, the scampi went home on the train.
Oh, that's really cute.
It had earned a ride home.
Yeah, bloody hell.
That's like that's, you know, you and Ed have done some trips in small Hondas that probably shouldn't have done.
Yeah.
So...
It wasn't planned that way, I don't think, for them when they were built.
No.
It was more for like putting the streets of Kyoto, not doing 110Ks in the hour down freeways.
The cool thing was, you know, with the approach of the anniversary,
I actually charged the battery up because it had been sitting for a little while.
And took it for a drive yesterday and it was just started and beautifully.
It's such a great little car.
And I've had it longer than any other car now.
I've had it 35 years, so longer than two of my kids.
So it's really part of the family.
Longer than I've been alive, too.
Yeah.
That's a cracker.
So that's my long-winded update.
That's your update.
Scotty, don't.
Well, I can make it pretty short and sweet.
I don't have anything.
No.
No, honestly, I haven't been doing anything.
I just gave the blade a wash.
Yeah, you have.
That's about it.
Nothing overly special.
Just gave it a little scrub.
Very good.
Jim Bellow.
I also, with David, went to the gearbox on Saturday,
which was very, very well attended.
My TAFE classes had moved to Zoom.
So in order not to miss the gearbox,
I drove the hour and three quarters to a library,
parked in the car, did an hour on Zoom.
We're into the library.
Then when the library closed, came back out to the car.
Then my teacher just took a long time to wind up.
And then when she finally did,
I looked up at the gearbox.
The attendance was very, very good.
As David said, cars were great.
Weather was perfect.
Food was awesome, as always.
So that was really fantastic.
It was a cracker day for it, wasn't it, Jim?
It was just perfect.
You couldn't have asked for a day, like a better day.
The car gods really shone upon us that day.
They did.
And it was good catching up with you and Chad again as well.
So that was really, really fantastic.
And then drove home.
And the next day, I went to a Magna catch-up also with David.
I forgot about that.
So first, I met up with Mr. Regalsworth.
And I had thought I was going to be driving Magna.
However, she had apparently formed other ideas.
So I drove Mandy the Beige wagon.
And we met up at Williamstown with quite a few other Magna faithful.
And again, weather was really good.
It was a bit warm, but like it was really, really nice.
A great selection of cars there.
Fantastic banter.
Again, that really wonderful atmosphere that seems to form
around Magna events as well was very much present too.
Also saw Mr. Bunting's latest Magna as well,
as he has moved on the lost and now has a VRX.
So that was interesting.
But that was here.
That was really, really good.
And then drove home.
I think that day was about six hours of driving all up.
And then I have also booked in my Ford laser
to go and be towed to the mechanics next Tuesday
to see if it's accounted for project club plates
or project simulator.
So let's see how that goes.
And of course, next Tuesday is also the 50th anniversary
since the Gough Whitlam dismissal.
So if you pass out there.
So I don't know if that's the man following up,
but we'll see.
Jim, you know what?
I've been in that room where he got the sack.
I've been in that room and I've sat in that chair three times.
In Governor House in Canberra.
We weren't allowed to take a photo in there,
but we kind of snuck in and took a photo.
Us teachers.
It was a bad thing on our camper camp excursion.
But it's just because I know you're a bit of a polybuff.
They've kept the room identical.
They've brought it back to how the pictures show
how it was in exactly that same time when he was fired.
So it's something that you should,
if you get the chance, just do it.
It's pretty cool.
So those are my, well, almost completely my updates.
The other one was in trying to find a picture of something else.
I found a taken a picture of my odometer from November 10th,
two years ago when I hit 400,000 Ks.
And it looks like I will pretty much hit it down to the,
I'll hit 500 down to the day, I think.
So because I'm on 499, 196.
You are not far away.
Not far away.
So longest wind up to half a million.
So once that farming passes, all the people who listen can go
finally enough about the stupid odometer.
But yes.
I think I'm waiting for the million, mate.
Yes, but I won't do weekly updates for that.
Jim, put it this way.
If Scotty took six years to do the 31,
we can give you like four years to do the million.
Okay.
All right.
I'll take that as it is.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so the other issue I had,
which is a nice issue to have is after came back from Magna,
it's like the marketplace algorithm just went,
yeah, everything you could possibly want.
And I was stuck between trying to avoid it,
but also like being unable to resist the temptation of looking
at the same time, you know?
So, yes, but there's a couple of things that have caught my eye
at the moment.
So I have to watch this space.
Yes.
There's a lot of interesting cars out at the moment.
Lots of Magna's.
Yes.
I think the algorithm is speaking to all of us really.
Did you see that actually?
V6 in South Australia that popped up yesterday.
Oh, I missed that.
I missed that.
What was that?
The TSV6 at Ann that popped up today.
Oh, okay.
The bluey green colour.
I can't remember what it's called.
Beautiful colour.
Yes.
The other two things actually, one was yesterday I had a curriculum
day at work and I got petrol afterwards,
popped into my local petrol station,
and the guy served me said,
oh, Magna, I saw a video about that in Adelaide.
It looks really, really good.
I said, yes, it was.
I was late.
He said, oh, it looks fantastic.
That was cool.
And the second thing was that having curriculum day yesterday,
I work with my aunt now, disclaimer,
she is my favourite aunt,
so I let her get away with being a little bit unfiltered.
But like I went into the building and the first colleague we found,
she pointed my shirt and said,
can you believe he's celebrating the most boring car
made in the 20th century to which I immediately replied,
says the woman who drives a Kluger.
Whoa.
That's some, that's funny words, Jim.
I'm here for it.
Because the Kluger is not a good driver.
I would prefer to drive a Magna over a Kluger.
So, yeah, she didn't reply after that.
So I think I considered that.
Yeah.
That's a W2U, Jim.
You can add that to your list.
Very good.
And how was your week?
My week.
So I've been going through my cars, actually.
So I drove the MR2, put that away, drove the Fiesta a fair bit,
put that away, drove the Typhoon on the weekend.
So I drove the Typhoon to the gearbox.
That was actually nice, nice to take that.
So I picked up Chad and I was helping Chad put his clock
in his TS Magna.
And he's kind of like loving that car even more,
which is quite funny.
So then we drove over and a few people had to go in the Typhoon,
Jim Baylow, cough, cough, cough.
I actually forgot to include that, yes.
That was sensational.
So just for some context, and I think you'd appreciate this,
Scotty and David, he got on the boost and then he just,
this was his reaction.
He just smiled and then he giggled away and I'm like,
Chad's like, he got the boost giggles, he got the boost giggles.
So he definitely did get the boost giggles.
And good friend of the club, Kenny got to drive that.
We swapped.
We actually swapped cars.
I drove his.
Oh, I saw it when you popped out the front.
Yeah.
So we swapped cars and he really liked the Typhoon.
I loved the Foroza.
I'm all about it.
I've been trying to keep an eye out for one,
but they just don't exist.
So yeah, I'm all about the Foroza.
I think that's really, really, really, really cool.
But it was the highlight of the day was to see Jim get the boost giggles.
And then I had to apologize profusely because I was like,
damn it.
Now I've got a,
there was got another car on his list that he wants to have.
And of course I drove that and then I had to drive home in a car with a CVT.
Yeah, just a little bit of a chalk and cheese moment there.
But yeah, it was nice to hear what people think of that car because,
you know, it is 21 years old now.
And but like, I remember Kenny hopped out and I think you mentioned the same thing, Jim.
Like you were just,
you guys were like surprised at how smooth it was and how smooth the power band is.
And it's not like a scary turbocharged car to drive.
It's quite linear.
So, you know, it was, it was good to take that and I drove that on the Sunday
and we caught up with Steph's family and they were in town.
So we, I was picked them up in that and drove them around.
And yeah, it was, it was good.
It was, it was nice to, nice to get that on the road again.
And like it just personified the reason to me why I need to cycle through my cars more
and just, just give them a little drive.
So I'm going to really try and do that.
I'm going to try to drive each car for a week.
Like, you know, one week on, you know, next one, next one, next one, next one.
And I think you're right, David.
It's something about like driving a car has been driven for a while.
It gets better the more you drive it.
And I do, I do agree with you on that 100%.
What else have I done?
I drove Steph's Forester needs a few things for it's in about less than a thousand
K's now for its service.
It needs, it needs a big steering, big wheel on because it's pulling to the left like,
like mad.
The air con compressor was always very noisy, but now it's very noisy and not really doing
much.
So I think it's pretty tired.
And then the other thing I need to do when I get a service is the clutch pedal.
I think the slave cylinder is a bit, how you going?
Cause sometimes the pedals are not happy after you leave it overnight or for a few days.
It's kind of down in the bottom.
So you got to kind of pump it up and it comes back to life.
Which is quite common on Subaru's apparently.
And they're an external slave cylinder.
So it's not too hard.
It's just, you got to take off the, off the intercooler and it should be just, just above
there cause that's where the, you know, where the gearbox is.
So I'll look at doing that and pricing things up through work and things over the next few
days and get that sorted.
But the only thing I'll have to drive this week is the Camry.
And I'm going to go pick that up tomorrow.
So I'm going to swap cars where the Camry's staying.
So drop the laser off and drop the Camry for a few days.
And hopefully the weather doesn't continue to be miserable.
So I can actually enjoy that car.
But yeah, that's pretty much, pretty much it.
Oh, and to our good friend, Michael Green.
Norma got a nice clean on the weekend.
So it was doing well.
Now, gentlemen, tonight's topic.
So I see you guys a bit of a challenge.
And I like sending people a challenge because the challenge is this time family cars, but
at different price points, but here's the kicker.
Different price points, but you cannot pick the same make twice.
So it has to be different makes for each of the price points.
Now the price points were five grand, 15 grand, 25 grand and 50 grand.
So something with a five in it.
So that was the theme of it.
Now, I'd love to see what you guys have chosen.
And I've also, I've got them saved on my screen.
And I'll share them through and I'll go through my reasonings through each one.
So normally on this show, I go last, but I'm actually more than happy to go first this time.
So if you guys wouldn't mind, I'd love to go first.
Yeah, go for it.
So we'll start with my cheapest car.
First one of my list.
I've went for a theme of wagons this time around.
I've just chosen wagons.
I am very partial to a wagon as we, as we all are, I think on this show because wagons are cooler.
But my first car for $5,000, which was actually at four grand is an 89 Volvo 240.
Nice.
240 wagon GL done a fair bit of case, but these are, these are quite reliable, robust vehicles.
They seem to have lasted the test of time.
And surprisingly enough, I did a bit of research on these.
And in Japan, they've got like such a cult following people like Restorum and do everything in Japan.
Like they've got to really be following.
But also here in Australia, like they're really big with the surfers and stuff.
Like they're all beaten and battered and hammered, but they still keep going.
And there's something to be said about an old wagon.
And I think if you're after a first starter wagon classic for the family,
so you've got like the nice Santa Fe to take, take the kids to school on, on during the week.
But if you want to go down to Williamstown for an ice cream and, you know, fiddle the kids in it,
you know, 89 Volvo 240 GL.
So small fixer opera cast out on news for a while, but it's, it's, it's kind of fair bit of work done.
Body's pretty straight.
So look, it's not too bad.
He's had quite a comprehensive list, but that's, that's my first car at four grand.
Just on that too.
With the beta bird would actually the 200 series Volvo's were in front of us
because they were celebrating the 50th anniversary of being on sale in Australia.
Well, there you go.
So, see, they're quite a loved car.
Was there, was there a fair few of them in Egypt?
Yeah, there were quite a few.
They also had a few hundred, a few 700 series as well, but there were quite a few there.
And on our drive up to Adelaide, we also bumped into a few on the way as well.
But yeah, no, they're very, very much loved.
And I have seen that one too, because they're getting quite dear now.
But no, yeah, that's quite affordable still really.
Yes, it is.
But, you know, the, like I'll go through the pictures for you guys,
but the foundations are quite, quite good.
So, yeah, it's, it looks, it looks pretty good according to the pictures there.
Next car, 15 grand.
That was pretty good.
Is a 2009 four territory turbo gear.
So it's an S Y Mark two.
So a late first generation territory turbo.
These are quite a good car.
They do plenty of K's, you know, quite reliably.
Like Anthony's one's got 300 kilowatts virtually at the wheel at all four wheels.
And it will do it all day every day.
Six speed ZF auto, you know, it's got, and being a gear comes with a little fruit.
So you've got your big hood scoop.
These have actually got a Typhoon engine, believe it or not.
So like they get the stronger rods.
So, so there, you know, they can take can take a bit of a beating,
but they were quite a nice thing.
Full leather, leather interior, reverse camera in some life.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's the, the leather they use in these wasn't the greatest.
I'm not going to lie, but the rest of the cars quite long lived in.
I think they decide to go a top mount.
I think they just didn't have enough space in the front or they couldn't get,
or they couldn't get the, you know, the front, front mount with that for compliance.
Cause it is, or they would have said, oh, you know, Subaru do it with their,
with their kind of, you know, SUVs, wagon sort of things.
You know, we could, we could do the same to try to tap into that market.
Make a little bit more kind of stand out a bit more.
Absolutely.
But I, I'm, I'm a fan of these and you know, at 15 and just over 15,
I think this would make a great family hauler, very thirsty,
but a great family reliable hauler.
But yeah, a bit of David prints on these seats.
I think it might need a bit more than David prints on these seats to be honest with you,
but, but you know, it's, they're, they're, they're a good thing.
Like that, you know, you got your electric pedals that come up to you and things.
So, so it's, you know, they were quite a well equipped vehicle.
And, you know, and it's a bit of an Aussie classic too.
Like, you know, if you're wanting to get into something Aussie built,
that's, that's quite rare and interesting.
I think that's, that's a really cool way of doing it.
Next one is my 25 grand car.
So these range from about 20, 15 to 28 grand, but I found this one for 20.
There's another one for 25.
That's a bit more monitor than this and a bit modified,
but this is an 07 Liberty GT tuned by STI.
So, so the tune by STI's were actual, you know, Australia.
So these pictures go through them.
I love these as a wagon.
The wheels are lovely on those.
So what was that, David?
The wheels are lovely on that.
They are, yeah, they're beautiful wheels.
I really wanted these for my forest at one point.
I've got the smaller version of these, which came on the, on the S edition,
which we're just still Enkeys, but these were the bigger Enkeys.
These were the 18s and one early 17s.
But they're like for me, this generation of Liberty is just,
it's the best looking one in my eyes.
And it still holds up really well today.
Being a manual too, I think it's quite cool.
It's still a good looking car.
And I, you know, I've always liked these.
And I like how they got STI in the seats embroidered and, you know,
it's got the big Brembo brakes on it.
And, you know, it was, it was quite a, you know, it was quite a good effort.
These are, and I think for, for 20 grand, you know, it's quite a good performer.
And you get all the drive grip and you get that safety,
that safety net of, of, of having that.
But, you know, it's an, and also to be relatively reliable provider.
You don't, you know, boost the hell out of it and, and, and get the whole,
oh, Subaru's blow head gaskets theme though.
If you, if they looked after there, they're okay.
So this was the 2.5 or two later.
This was a 2.5, which are known for having a little bit of issues,
but the main thing, the main 2.5s that hit issues with, with a single cam,
non-turbos, they had, they had, they had the, you know,
they, they would leak from externally in the head gaskets.
These ones, or internally, to be fair, these ones aren't as bad.
The turbos weren't as bad as, as people made them out to be,
just only when they were modified badly were they, were they bad.
But yeah, so I think for 25, for 25 grand, it's a, it's a cracking car.
Yes, it's a little bit older these days, but I think if you're,
if you're a bit of a driver and, and, and you like to drive,
I think that's, that's definitely, that's definitely a really good pick.
So like, I've picked one for your, you know, your, your classic family hauler,
your everyday hauler and the Territory Turbo.
So the, the classic one is your Volvo.
If you're a driver's person and you like a driver's car,
I think that's the one for you in the 20s.
And if you want to be the coolest that in the car park for 50 grand,
you can get an Evo Wagon.
It's David mentioned earlier at the start of the podcast,
but I was trying to keep my mouth shut because I already picked one.
So I'm, I do love an Evo Wagon.
I think they are very cool.
And the fact that you can get all the Evo goodness in a Mitsubishi Wagon,
you know, I think it's brilliant.
And, you know, you know, everything is cooler as a wagon as anyone would say.
And if you don't agree with me, you're wrong.
I'm sorry. That's just how it is.
But this is a really nice example.
I like the color too.
It's had a few bits and pieces done.
So talking about earlier, only by two 50 year old enthusiasts
and see what never thrushed or abused besides the odd spirit, a bit of driving.
Yeah, I just, just admit that you've driven it harder to Mitsubishi Evo.
Yeah, you're not buying it for the, you know, for the car.
Correct.
So considering it's being tuned and everything, I'm just reading it there.
Yeah, it's 230 all wheel kilowatts, which is in an Evo ridiculously fast.
Like that's really quick.
Full exhaust, you know, all, you know, it's got plenty of Orleans co-levers,
which are like really expensive.
So expensive.
Yeah, that's 5K worth of that.
You know, it's got, it's got a whole bunch of bits and pieces on it.
It's probably, you know, guys is the best car they've owned.
I don't know why you'd be selling it if it is.
But yeah, for me, this is 46 grand under 50 or thereabouts.
Good price.
Yeah.
You reckon that's, that's what they should be.
Is it?
That's where they, that's where they've been for a little bit.
20 year old car though too.
They are a 20 year old car.
But, you know, again, look at.
For the wagon, it's pretty darn good because you got Evo eights.
They're sitting at that price.
Yeah.
That's true.
Um, like Evo's, um, and it's something I want to talk about next week.
Cars that have just stayed at a price point and haven't moved.
And that's, that's next week's topic, which, uh, DC five integrers,
which will, and EP threes have been 25 grand forever.
But this is kind of one of those cars that kind of,
they kind of just stayed there.
Didn't they Scotty?
They didn't really go down.
I mean, they got in, they got into the thirties I'd say,
but I don't really remember seeing an Evo wagon any cheaper than that.
No, not that I've seen.
Nope.
So this one is the one, if you want to have it,
if you want to be a track day dad,
um, as well as be the cool dad pick at the,
at the, uh, school pickup that is, um,
or track day mom, you know, either or, um, so.
The cool thing about that is what, what, what do you drive?
Oh, I've got a Mitsubishi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just a Mitsubishi.
I've got a, I've got a buddy, 50 grand Mitsubishi.
Oh, I've got a Mitsubishi wagon.
Oh, was it a Pajero?
No, it's a bit small.
It's a Lancer.
So, but I'm underneath it.
I'm just looking at the pictures now.
I just forgot to share to you guys.
It's, it's, there's no rust to speak of it.
And it looks great in like that dark blue too.
It's, it's a cracking color.
Um, yeah.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
So, so that, that's my pick gentlemen.
The Evo, the, um, uh, tuned by STI, uh, Liberty wagon, territory
turbo and Volvo to 40.
Well, I'm happy to go next.
No, all yours, Scotty.
You can share away my friends.
Cause I'm going to absolutely just boggle your minds and
destroy your wall and make you think, oh my goodness.
What are these vehicles?
He's going to, he's going to, he's going to blitz me your
records.
Oh, okay.
He's my first one at five grand and it's a 05 XR six.
Yep.
That's cheap, isn't it?
That's a BF.
It is very cheap.
Um, from having a look, the only thing that's kind of
not great is the paint.
The paint, quite a bit of paint fade, but I mean, it still
hasn't hit 200,000 Ks on it yet.
Sitting at 188.
Rapid.
Rapid is the color that though that it's a, it's a yellow.
It never really liked being out in the sun.
Was it a, um, as a metallic?
No, it's a flat color.
Well, they'd probably come back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Kind of like, um, the clear coat or it's looks powdery.
Yeah.
It looks oxidized to me.
Yeah.
It was redeemable.
But I mean, the guys had it for five years and he just used
it as a daily.
So, and he even mentioned the interior isn't smelly.
So that's, that's a win, isn't it?
The interior is really clean.
It is.
It's a really nice example.
Yeah.
That's a lot of car for five grand.
It's a lot of car for five grand.
Yeah.
That's, that's what I thought.
And that's, I mean, he's got enough pictures.
He's 27 pictures to go through and.
Yeah.
So that's everything that you could want.
It's just a nice, I'm not here.
There it is.
The interior is clean and doesn't smell.
You have that upfront because I mean.
Which is good.
How many times have we gone look to the car and open the door
and gone, oh my goodness.
Yeah.
Whether it's a smoker or it's that wet mildew smell in it.
Or dog wet.
And it's just, you just, it's too hard to get rid of.
Yeah.
I remember Scotty.
I remember where my mom used to work this lady.
She used to bring in her car for, for servicing.
It was a Telsa TX five and the mechanics would punch on like
quite literally punch on with each other as to who would not take it.
Who would not be servicing it.
Cause it reeked like it was, I don't know how you could,
you could, it was disgusting.
So yeah, even with like 10 of the hanging things, you know,
the hanging smelly things, it was still, it just,
it just out smelled all of those.
So horrific.
But anyway.
It's horrible.
Yeah.
Absolutely not.
But no, that's, I mean, it's a lot of car for five.
If you wanted a daily that'd be reliable and get the job done as a family car.
Absolutely.
It's safe.
Got all your, all your, you know, all the things you need.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
If you end up getting a trailer or something for something,
it's not that hard to get a towbar hooked up.
Easy as happy days.
Yup.
Next one's a little bit different and you'll be able to get it this month very soon.
It's about to have its birthday.
Oh, okay.
And you'll be able to import it.
Oh, Scottie.
So it's this one here.
It's a 2000 Toyota Crown athlete.
So it's the, now yes, everyone's like, no, but you can already import them.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You can import the turbo ones, but not these ones.
This is the non-turbo versions of them.
Yeah.
Which is weird.
Why could you import the turbo and yet the non-turbo couldn't be imported until 25 years?
It makes no sense.
You have to wait for the 25-year thing.
Yeah, it might be that.
I honestly can't remember.
I remember them talking about it, but I can't remember these at point.
So I'm not going to say because I'll probably be wrong.
And what makes this one great is it's only got 102,000 kilometers with books.
And if we go through the pictures.
Good looking colleagues.
They're really cool.
Absolutely.
It's just so clean.
The interior.
I love the handles on the back of the seats for the repairs.
It's got the ocean handles in front of you.
You've driven one of these, Jim, haven't you?
I've driven a couple of later ones.
Yes.
They would be a lovely thing to do.
Boot space.
It's just going to win some doilies, I think, Scotty.
That's all it needs.
And it's just everything about is just 100% stock.
I'm off it, Scotty.
I'm off it.
It doesn't have the doilies.
I'm off it.
You can always get them.
So if you're after kind of that style of look but not pay that premium money
because you're not that interested in the whole power bit,
then this would be your pick.
So this one is 10,800 landed,
but then you will add on your compliance and radio.
It's another level at three or so.
Yeah, so it will bring it to about 15.
Pretty good.
That's a lot of cool car for 15 grand.
Yeah.
So that's my $15,000 one.
Now we're going to jump over to, what was it, 25.
So I'm going with Subaru.
It's got everything you like.
Yeah.
That's all it is.
And it's the Le Vogue.
Some people don't like it, but I think they look great.
Yeah, I do too.
Yeah, so why?
You know, it hasn't, it's, yeah, 2018.
I still think like, you know, it's fairly new, but technically it's not 2018.
Still under 100,000 Ks.
I'm not sure if it says anything that exciting.
It's kind of just chat GPT business written in there.
So nothing great.
But I'm going through it.
It's in the nice blue.
Why do you always look so good in that blue?
You just always look good in that blue.
Cause it's blue.
Well, already blue.
I like the seats.
Yeah.
I liked that little hint of red inside there.
Yeah, I'm about that.
It is auto, but oh well.
Did they do it on any of the hog?
No, they didn't.
No.
Yeah.
Okay.
Which is such a shame.
Like even the, even the current WRX wagon, like.
If that was a manual.
Yeah.
Stephanie, Stephanie test drive one.
I bet a year ago.
And we both walked away with it.
I liked, we loved the car.
We just like, if there was, if it was a manual, oh, you know, it would be the,
it'd be the perfect family car, but unfortunately not.
But yeah, it's good.
Oh, about that.
I think that's great.
I know people put the six speed manuals into them and things.
So you, you're able to do that if you're a bit nifty.
Yeah.
So that's, that's that choice went with the wagon.
And my last one is actually a wagon too.
And it is not.
Of Japanese descent.
Shocking horror.
Yeah.
It's actually from this page as well.
Shout out to, shout out to iron chef imports for their vehicles.
Is a 2017 Mercedes Benz E 400 estate.
Exclusive package.
We did not get these and it comes with the three and a half liter V six twin
turbo in this thing.
All right.
And it just looks like a basic wagon.
I mean, there's nothing overall special about it.
Yeah.
At the moment it's on 20 inch Maybach styled rims.
I can't remember if he said, if they throw in the originals or not,
but that's what it's got.
That's what it's writing on.
I wasn't.
Pardon.
I think that was Christian's car.
Wasn't it for a while?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He did have this one for a bit.
Yup.
It was one of his, one of his many runabouts.
He doesn't stick with them for very long.
He goes through quite a lot.
So I mean, this is like the amount of space you got there in the back for
anything.
And it just blends in and we look at it.
It just looks like a normal.
Yup.
Mercedes wagon, but you got plenty of power under there.
Yeah, I'm a fan.
That one's got 82,000 kilometers with books and that comes in at just 44
grand.
Yeah.
Under the budget.
No other price.
That's it.
Oh, I like it.
So let's run through them.
You had the E 400.
Japan port.
You had the for 50 grand.
You had the 25 grand.
Yup.
At 15 grand, you had the crown athlete.
Yup.
For five grand, you had the BF.
Yeah.
BF.
Yeah, I'm a fan.
I think they're good choices.
Yeah.
They are my choices.
What about that?
Dave or Jim?
After you, Jim.
Oh, okay.
I had two per category, so I'll try and filter it down to one.
So my first choice for $5,000 is a 2007 Mitsubishi 380.
210,000 K's full service history with regio and road worthy.
That's, I mean, that's, I mean, you're not going to get a better car for five grand.
Like, like that.
Well, Scotty's XR six years and a half back.
With regio and road worthy.
I'm not sure if mine's got that.
It doesn't mention that.
So yours goes.
I, that was what, when I looked back at my list of cars, I did notice that probably the
only common denominator really is the service history part because I thought like a family
car, you want to sort of make sure that hopefully it's going to last as long as you need it for
hopefully.
But yes, that was my first choice.
The second one for this category, it sold it before this meeting started.
So that was rather convenient.
So what was the SX?
Was that the base model?
I think it was that one above because I've seen there's a, I think it was an ES as well,
which originally had hubcaps and stuff.
There's actually a five speed manual 380 on gun tree with like 89,000 K's for six.
But that's like properly budget spec.
So that was my first one for under five.
All right.
So for under 15, I chose 2004 Holgen Caprice.
Five and seven and V8, 187,000 K's, one owner full service history.
He says with a minor remap, he does have the picture of how much power is putting out,
but it's kind of hard to make out what actually says please force of copy it strangely.
But yeah, it's got a gray leather interior, which I think probably suits exterior color
reasonably well.
It should also mean that if you've got some kids in the back,
that make a mess of the clean, the seats should be easy to clean.
But also Caprice in these, you get the screen in the back TV in the, in the, in the head rest.
Yes.
So, so that's rather nice.
And being 12,000 rather than $15,000 that should cover hopefully two tanks of fuel,
which you'll probably cover in about a day and a half.
But anyway, and probably not the best car for the city,
but still like it'd be nice to work up in.
Does he mention who we got to sign the engine cover?
It doesn't.
Not that I could see because I was trying to figure that out.
He doesn't mention that because I'd wondered that as well.
And also too, that if you had people sign the engine cover, wouldn't you keep it like perfectly clean?
But anyway, that's just me.
You know what, Jim?
That's actually, that's, that's a nice car.
I love it.
Great thing.
Yeah, it's nice.
With my next one, it did sort of overlap with one of Maddie's ones.
So I won't do that one.
Okay.
But my other choice was a 2019 Skoda Octavia RS345 wagon.
125,000 Ks.
One owner full service history.
610 litres of boot space with the seats up.
Next service isn't due for 12,000 Ks.
And yeah, it comes with three-month-read German roadworthy.
It looks pretty clean, I think.
I was a bit reluctant to go VW group, but I thought, oh well, the practical wagon's a little bit hard to ignore.
And because it's a little bit under $25,000, it should mean, should mean hopefully that when you break down, you'll have enough for a big obituary.
So there's also that.
I do like these, Jim.
Yes, I try and watch through because I know they're a VW group product, but it's a bit hard to ignore them.
Can I just add that they are so much more cooler than like a golf wagon or something?
Of course, yes.
When I was looking through these, I went, no, VW's a bit more incompletely.
So that is that one.
Okay.
And then, so for my under 50, I had two, but I'm going to stick with this because it's probably a bit more practical than my other one.
Porsche Macan.
So $48,000, 116,000 Ks with full Porsche service history.
Wait, that's a Macan Turbo too.
Yes, yes.
And this is the 3.6-litre turbo as well, not just a 3-litre turbo.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I thought that would be a rather quick way to make haste to rat college or something.
So, yes, but I thought for $48,000, it's not too bad.
That's a calm down in price.
Hang on, go back a couple of shots.
No roof.
Well, that might be a problem for you, Jim.
All right.
I think it's a panoramic maybe.
Yeah, I think it's a panoramic.
So, yeah, but I thought this looked okay.
I probably wouldn't get it myself because those wheels wouldn't survive my potholes.
But, yeah, no, I thought that'd be quite a tasty way to make your taking kids to and from school or something or something.
Yeah, that's my collection of cars there.
You would suit the Touareg tractors and the mummies in there.
Lululemon outfits, very nice with one of those, Jim.
Exactly.
And just one of them, you know, like an arm and latte or something.
Yeah, sure.
And then you're going to go run the tan in Berticom is just going to the coffee shop instead.
That's it.
Love the pics.
Really, really cool.
David Prince.
Okay, spoiler alert, there are no Hondas in my selection.
How's that?
It means shock and horror.
Oh, my goodness.
David Prince, are you feeling okay?
Well, you know, I'm feeling fine.
Are you sure?
Because like usually that'd be an Odyssey.
Yeah.
What goes with that saying, Odyssey would trip any group.
100%.
100%.
But no, no, I mean, description of a family car.
Well, families take up many different shapes these days.
So, you know, anyway, we'll go through these.
And there's a few surprises, I think, in here.
I saw this car, David.
Yeah, I saw that.
So, yeah, there's a lot to, you've got change to fix the problems with it.
To put an 80 example, 184Ks, it's a 2006 Volvo V50, but it's the T5 four-wheel drive.
So, it says in the ad, needs a battery, coil packs, and a heater fan motor.
No regeral road with you located in Ballerot.
Will you probably double the double, probably be closer to six with those things done.
But really tidy little wagon.
I really rate the V50s because they were a good size.
They came with the interior that's, you know, well, this one, this one's a T5.
So, it's got the silver highlights rather than the Ikea wood through it.
But leather interior.
But we like a Ballerot car.
They've usually sat on the highway and done fairly easy lives.
And coil packs are not too hard to sort.
Even though it's got that, that's the same motor out of the...
Except 5T.
5T, yeah, yeah.
So, I thought, well, that's an interesting, if your family's still small,
that would be a great little way to move around, I reckon.
And a can't-talk-top tip, if you're going to, like, own a T5 or something Volvo,
check around for prices for the Fords because you might get servicing parts a bit cheaper.
Like coil packs and things.
There's some good photos, actually, of the body, and it is straight as straight, that car.
And with 180Ks on it, I reckon that...
It defies understanding why people wouldn't actually just get the coil packs fixed and put it back on.
And then, you know, that might be a $6,500 car, you know, really.
Some people can't be bothered over that.
That's true.
Yeah, most likely.
And it's an old car.
For a lot of people, I suppose, they just think,
oh, well, why would you bother?
It's an old car.
Okay, that was my $5,000 one.
Now, the $15,000 one.
Geez, wow, okay.
Are these that cheap now?
I know.
That's what I thought.
So this is 2019.
So it's 60...
The white one.
This is the Holden Commodore wagon.
And it's actually a model year 19.5.
It's actually Northern Territory.
So it's going to...
You've got to adjust your fare to get up.
Now, it's only the two-litre auto, but great family wagon.
It says it in the ad.
I mean, that's job done, isn't it?
It's in the name.
Yeah, it's...
As I said, it's a Northern Territory car,
and it's done 140,000 Ks.
But I thought that was cheap for one of those.
That is, yeah.
They're actually holding value quite well, the ZBs.
They're better than I expected them to,
because they weren't a bad thing.
They're absolutely huge inside.
Actually, the profile photo, it's really quite reminiscent.
And I didn't mean to go digging to try and find a Hyundai I40 wagon as well.
Oh, yeah.
They're a great mover, too.
I saw a few of these as well.
They're quite decently priced for what they offer.
No, that's right.
Loaded with gear.
The Calais...
In the next category, you know,
closer to 20, you'll find the Calais
and the oil drive V6s and stuff like that.
But, you know, if you're just after pure transport,
as far as carrying a lot of people,
or a decent number of people in comfort with storage space,
I reckon that's a lot of car for $15,000.
I would agree.
Absolutely.
So our next one up to $25,000.
Ooh.
Yeah, we're talking to friends.
A 2021 Mazda6 Sport wagon in a really lovely, again,
steel, blue sort of color.
Blue cars just work for me.
This has done only $36,000.
It's just serviced logbook service history.
This has had panel damage, not accident damage.
I didn't see that before written off vehicle.
Maybe that's why it's under $25,000.
But for basically a new car, $23,000,
being Queensland, it's probably hail.
Yeah, I'd say be hail.
But $36,000 on a Mazda6 wagon.
That's basically a new car, I reckon.
Yeah, I would agree.
And they're a good-looking wagon.
They're a lovely little car with a Kodo design.
And you would get many of years of good use out of those.
That was out of all Kodo design cars.
That's probably the best-looking one.
Yeah.
I still work in the three sedans for the best,
but it's a very handsome wagon.
And it's funny how we've,
so many of us concentrated on wagons,
as far as, when you say family cars,
because they just make so much sense, don't they?
They do, absolutely.
It's got the lamies on it as well.
Yeah.
So now the last one up to $50,000,
my goodness, of all the things you could get.
How's this?
Oh, yeah.
A 2019 Toyota Alphard Executive Lounge Auto.
It's not a car.
It's an executive lounge.
I mean, look at it.
That's brilliant.
You've got to face only a mother could love,
especially that mother was a transformer.
But the interior is crazy.
It's like first class.
So you don't want to be driving this car.
You want to be sitting there in that back seat.
With your massaging and heating seats
and adjustable footrests.
Yeah, this is a step above business class, I reckon.
It's the one time where you'd say shotgun back seat.
That's right.
I was in Adelaide recently for the Magna thing for the weekend,
and I caught up with some friends from Melbourne,
and they have an Alphard.
Not one of these ones, an earlier one.
But they just love it.
It's just the first JDM sort of car.
But they just needed to be able to take grandchildren around and stuff.
And this thing's just, it's like a small apartment.
It's massive inside.
It's funny because on the outside,
they don't look super big when you drive near them,
but inside they're massive.
And once you put the local head unit in them with the first camera
and Apple CarPlay and everything,
they're absolutely as easy as anything.
But I have seen some of these on the road,
and Cass says, oh, those things look terrible.
I said, oh, yeah, shocking.
Shocking looking things.
But that's got executive lounge right now.
Come on.
It's all about the interior and those.
And it's a hybrid too.
You know, that's a lot of car for 50 grand.
There's a lot in there.
This one's got, how many has this got on the clock?
I can't remember.
Yeah, there were a lot of them that were dearer than that.
But how come we got that?
How come we didn't run one of those?
We rented a bloody Sienta.
That was a horrifically bad car.
I think the Alphard would have probably been
about three times of the Sienta cost.
I agree.
It was.
But I've seen a few of those on the road,
and time has not improved the way I feel about them.
Probably the least attractive Japanese import there is.
I wish we had got a pro box, actually.
I mean, pro boxes are just so cool.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I agree.
But see, for me, those Alphards,
it's not a very attractive name,
but it kind of reminds me of the car that the ban goes into.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the kind of car that they go into.
But no, I love the choices.
Gentlemen, I like all these choices, actually.
There's some good consumer advice for our listeners
who don't think we do much consumer advice on the show.
So no, we don't just talk about Magnus.
We also talk about other things.
And we'll give you some price points,
and I think there's something in there for everybody.
No one doubled up on models or anything.
We didn't both choose a certain Toyota Camry
or something like that.
They're all different.
Yeah, absolutely.
Tons to pick from.
100%.
Something cheap, if you need something cheap and cheerful.
Something expensive and loungy, if you know what I mean.
And it's something if you want to take the kids,
but also go through the track.
And I think that's a bit of fun for everybody there.
So all right, gentlemen, out of those cars,
what would be the two that you would honestly buy out of the list?
Do you have to buy two of them?
Oh, and the price was no object.
Price was no object.
I mean, definitely they came out of.
Correct.
Do you know what?
I'd be tempted, actually, and I did look at them,
and at Jim's choice of the Skoda Octavia RS.
And I actually looked at a couple of superbs
because I really rate the superbs as well.
But I love that even though it's a veg product,
I mean, they've always had a better warranty in Australia
than the Volkswagen's.
I think Volkswagen's caught up now,
but early on they had a better warranty.
I don't know if it's just wishful thinking,
but they seem to have a more reliable reputation.
Agreed.
And it's like Sean in Scotland.
Can I show you if you're listening?
His Seat is basically a Golf R wagon,
but it's a manual and it's much more,
in a lot of ways, it's much more analog
and less electronic than the Golf R,
which probably contributes to it being more reliable.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, yeah, now I'd go the Octavia.
And your other choice, David Prince?
Oh, my other choice?
Actually, I wish I'd have seen that 240 wagon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
That's a lot of car.
Yeah.
It is.
Scotty, though.
It was your most expensive one, Maddie.
I can't remember.
It was the Evo.
Evo wagon.
That's right.
I would probably go the Evo.
It would be one of my picks because,
no matter what,
I'm just always drawn to something fast and grippy.
It's just the way I am.
Always got to have something pretty quick.
And it will make that kind of power easily,
reliable all day, every day.
I'm happy to service it and things like that.
And I would just chip away and probably add more power,
I would imagine,
because I would get sick of it and go,
it's too slow now.
So that would be that pick.
And then my other one is probably the,
I'm trying to think a little bit differently here.
So I'd probably go that Mazda6 wagon.
That's a very new car, very clean.
As you said,
it was probably just hailed damage or something anyway.
It doesn't say it was an accident.
So I think it'll be anything to be too concerned about.
And it will just keep on going.
I don't think it'll really age that much.
It'll always look like a new car.
A good looking car.
That kind of shape is what?
12 years old?
It's quite a long live.
They've had a facelift,
but my God, it still looks good.
I saw one of the heritage edition ones recently in Dingley,
actually, of all places.
And yeah, quite like them because they come in their own,
no, not heritage, sorry,
the 20th anniversary edition comes in what they wrote.
Cherry color on the different color of the seats as well.
They're quite nice.
So they are my two picks for two very different reasons.
Jim.
I think it's quite hard because there's such a good broad spread here.
I think I'll probably go with the Liberty wagon and the crown.
Yeah, good choice.
Very partial to the crown.
Yeah, absolutely.
As you should be.
Crowns are lovely.
Yeah.
My picks would be the Mazda 6 wagon.
I'm a big fan of the Mazda 6 wagon.
I think they still look good
and they will continue to look good for a while.
My other pick, gentlemen, would be the,
just for a cheap runabout car would be the 380.
I think that would be a car you'd work the dog in.
It wouldn't matter because it's cheap anyway.
You'd fit that single dad cheap car narrative quite well.
So low income single dad car, which is great.
So I think that's the way to do it.
But anyway, gentlemen, I think you guys have made some great choices.
As I said too early, if you've got any yellow ones,
tell us if we're wrong.
Let us know.
Steph says we're wrong.
She's been listening in the background.
Moving on to the quiz, gentlemen, before we finish the show.
So I've put together a quiz as we normally do.
Some bonus questions involved.
10 questions plus some bonus questions.
There'll be two brochure questions right at the end of this episode.
Two of them, absolutely correct.
Tonight, we've got David, we've got Gotti,
and we've got Jim playing for the illustrious title of...
Breaking Runs.
Breaking Runs.
Thank you, David Prince.
All right.
10 questions plus some bonus questions.
Let's crack on the Tuning House quiz.
So question one, the Tuning House Saline.
I'm most known for modifying and racing what vehicle?
Scott.
Mustang.
Mustang is absolutely correct.
It's got him well done.
Question two, staying with Ford.
A territory gear in 2006 was how much?
I'll give closest two for this.
A territory gear all-wheel drive.
All-wheel drive.
Got it.
Got it.
I'm going to say it probably would be about 62.
62.
I'll go.
This is not a turbo gear.
This is just a gear.
Yeah, it's a gear all-wheel drive, non-turbo.
Non-turbo.
Non-turbo with eucalyptus interior.
Oh, nice.
It was not a nice interior.
I'm trying to match that colour.
It was not.
David, I'll go 52 and a half.
52 and a half, 52.5.
And I'll go 48.
48,000.
If they were 48, there would have sort of a lot more of them, Jim.
They were 56, 320 to be exact.
So David Prince, you were on the money.
Next question, question three.
In the Rush Hour movies, which are some of my all-time favourite movies,
David Prince and Jim and Scotty, you've seen these movies,
I'm assuming at some point?
No.
No, I've never seen them.
Are you missing out, David?
Yeah, you are missing out.
They are quality fun.
Carter played by Chris Tucker.
Drova what?
Jim.
Jim.
Corvette Singer?
Yeah, did you want to call her Corvette Singer?
Well done.
Bode's question.
Lee, the character played by Jackie Chan,
when he took Carter to Hong Kong,
drove what car?
David.
David.
Mitsubishi?
That's 0.5, yeah.
I'll say Pajero.
Incorrect, 0.5.
I'll give you 0.5.
Oh.
Scott.
Probably an Evo.
It wasn't an Evo,
but he was the ambassador for them.
That's probably why it was in the movie.
I knew that much.
That's why I said to you.
I can sort of picture the movie too.
It's annoying because my brain is just this big void.
No.
I've got an answer.
Was it a Lancer?
Mitsubishi Lancer.
Question number four.
What's got a small coupé in the 90s?
This is very early 90s.
They used the redo,
like a very similar version of the Madonna song Vogue,
to promote its car.
David.
David.
Was it the Hyundai Escoupé?
That's two points because that was the bonus question as well.
Hyundai and the Escoupé.
It was, yes.
They used kind of a knock-off version of Vogue by Madonna.
Yeah.
It's a cool art.
I haven't seen one of those in a while,
but yeah.
Cool car.
Question number five.
The MG3 has been recalled for what reason?
The new MG3?
Because it's terrible.
That is also true.
I wish we could give you the answer, David,
but I can't.
If a car was being recalled for being terrible,
that would be the funniest thing in the world.
Sorry.
Could you imagine that?
We're sorry.
We're sorry.
Please consider.
No, don't muddy the exhibition bag from the 90s.
I think you have some interest in trouble then,
if that was the case.
So why has the MG3 been recalled this week,
the current MG3?
Jim, I'm going to guess it's something to do with the brakes.
Incorrect, Jim.
Scotty and David.
I'm going to say it's got to do with something shorting,
could cause a fire?
You think so, but no, surprisingly.
Oh.
David Prince.
No, I think about it.
Is this something to do with the seat attachment,
seat frame?
Absolutely, David.
In a crash, the driver seat fails,
and it's bad.
Like I've seen videos of it.
I haven't seen it.
No, it's not.
How to get through, Anke, to begin with.
Thank you, Scotty.
Here's the thing.
Exactly.
It hasn't.
Question number six,
Honda has looked at what car
when developing the super ones?
Honda N1.
Incorrect.
Oh.
They've looked at what other vehicle
for its headline feature?
David.
David.
City Turbo 2.
Incorrect.
Oh.
Jim.
Jim.
We'll be excommunicated.
Yes.
They stopped that one up.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.
This is coming from the president of the Honda
Car Club of Victoria, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't let the rest of the people hear this.
I don't think so.
Scotty.
I don't mind.
Can I hear the question again, please?
Honda has looked at which other car
when developing the super ones headline feature?
Super.
Oh, I think I might know what it is now.
No, I'm not sure.
Jim, I'll let you answer,
but there's no points on the line here.
The Honda E?
No, not quite.
Oh, okay.
The IONIQ 5N, the Hyundai IONIQ 5N
for the northern shifts.
For the flappy pedal.
Oh, okay.
They admitted that they looked at that for inspiration.
Question number seven, sticking with Hyundai
in sad news.
The I-20N.
Jim.
Jim.
It's ending production in 2026.
Yes, well done, Jim.
They have any answer.
That is sad news.
I know you like those Scotty I-20Ns.
They're cool.
Yeah, I'm a fan.
Sticking with Hyundai Question 8,
what model are they axing in their range
besides the I-20N?
Don't know.
And it shocked me when I saw this too.
I'm like, it must be the letter H thing.
It must be a Honda,
copying Honda and doing weird moves
because this one surprised me.
It was, yeah.
David, I'll take your guess.
Is it the I-30 sedan?
Incorrect.
Good guess.
Jim, I'm going to guess Sonata.
Incorrect.
The Kona?
Incorrect.
You're sitting there for this.
They are axing the normal I-30 hatch.
Okay, yeah.
David's face is like, exactly.
He's like, what?
Yeah, no, I can see that.
They've only got one spec now.
It's coming from Europe.
It's expensive.
Not much volume.
They're not selling the I-30,
I think in Europe anymore.
Kind of makes sense.
Jim, you've just got the extra bonus point.
What is the reason they're axing it?
Geez, you guys are answering the questions
before I've even been getting there.
Score check, Scotty one.
You sounded like a house on fire, Scotty.
It's just, you know...
I'm happy.
I'm at least not zero, so...
That's all right.
Well, it's still anybody's game.
You can still come back with the next two questions.
We've got...
Actually, no, you can't technically.
Sorry, I just realised.
That's cool.
Well, thanks for getting my hopes up.
Sorry, serious.
Jim on three, David on 4.5 so far.
Two questions to go.
Let's get on with the first of our brochure questions.
A 224 kilowatt, high performance engine,
aggressive blank styling,
and a short fuse.
Can you handle it?
Buy enthusiasts, for enthusiasts.
Powered by the heavily revised 2.5 five-cylinder engine,
the blank, blank, blank, is...
Is it the Ford Focus RS?
It is the Ford Focus RS.
Well done, Scotty.
Well done.
Okay.
Question number 10.
The can-do van.
The can-do van.
The blank van not only looks the goods,
it also delivers the goods.
It's an extreme...
Jesus, that's real.
Whoever wrote this is an amazing wordsmith.
It's an extremely rugged vehicle.
That is the result of a long process of reform and development
aimed purely and simply to make it one of the most practical
and easy ways to use vans in its class.
You see, while the blank may be new to Australia,
for many years it's been one of Europe's most versatile,
reliable, and loved commercial vehicles.
The blank is the ultimate can-do van.
Okay.
Compact.
Jim.
Jim.
Is it a Renault can-go?
It is a Renault can-go.
Jim, well done.
Done.
All right.
Score check.
Let's...
Scotty on to Jim on four.
And tonight's winner on 4.5 is Mr David Prince.
Well done.
Sorry, Jim.
That's all right.
That was a tight question.
It was.
It was nice.
I'm really impressed that you got the RS one
because you could have easily have said XR5 Turbo,
but I think what gave it away was the heavily revised.
Mine was the kilowatts as well.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
I think the XR5 Turbo was one...
160.
160, 70 or something like that.
It's a lot lower.
It made a crap tumble, pal.
Oh, yeah.
I came close to buying one of those.
I do like those there.
And you know what?
They're actually worth more than the third generation RSs now
because they're kind of a bit...
They're quite sought after.
I had a friend at my last work who had a Focus ST,
Focus RS, and a BMW M1, I think.
And they were all her husbands,
but she preferred the RS because in her mind it was...
Would she say it was more outdated?
I think that's what she preferred.
Geez, when you've got...
They're nice problems to have, aren't they, Jim?
They're very nice problems to have, yeah.
Gentlemen, I think that's a podcast.
Yep.
Thank you.
Thank you, guys.
Let's do some plugs.
Scotty's Golf Tip of the Week.
Golf Tip of the Week today this week is
go with what your body gives you.
So that means, you know, a lot of times
you're not going to be as flexible as the pros out there.
You're not doing that hour, two-hour warm-up
before you go out and hit.
Whatever your body gives you, use that.
It's probably going to change your swing a bit,
but as long as you hit it, it's fine.
It's an everybody's game.
It doesn't matter what age you are.
You can still get out there and play.
I love that.
That's...
I mean, David...
David Prince would take some words of inspiration from that.
It's everybody's game.
Everybody's game.
Everybody's game.
That's very good.
Jim, anything you want to plug?
Yes, I just wanted to say,
if anybody is lamenting losses
that they suffered today with the horses,
perhaps next year, just have a look
and see if there are any horses that are called,
you know, barrel or case swap
that should probably help a little bit.
Barrel.
Okay.
That would be funny.
LS.
LS.
I don't know why horses haven't been given,
like, car engine names.
That's a good...
Jim, I think you're onto something there.
Yeah.
To be honest,
it will probably be more accurate,
be like, you know, Morris 8 side valves, maybe.
Yeah.
So are we going to have a new segment at the end
called Jim's Bedding?
Yeah.
So here we go.
Light me up with that.
I felt like a sportsman out of the air.
Put everything on red, this way, fellas.
He's wearing a red t-shirt, gentlemen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Although, hey, hey, if I end up doing well,
then I might, you know,
grow my garage quite significantly quite quickly.
Absolutely.
Nice.
Absolutely.
There's benefits for us all there, Jim.
Yes.
David's Words of Wisdom.
I've got one for tomorrow.
It's short week, so it's, you know, everything.
It feels like a Sunday night,
except aside from the podcast,
which is always Tuesday night,
but it feels like a very short week,
which it will be.
Remember tomorrow morning,
either you run the day or the day runs you.
Oh, I like that one.
That's nice.
Yeah, that's good.
Especially going back to swimming all the kids
around the routine.
Yeah.
That's it.
Great.
Hey.
Do you want to swap, David?
Thank you.
No, I'll just ask Ed to replace him.
I'm sure he won't mind.
All that big is the loop, doesn't it?
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Exploring family cars across various budgets, this episode features lively discussions among hosts Matty J, David Prince, Jim Barlow, and Scotty Doe Johnson. Each host presents their top picks for family vehicles at price points of $5,000, $15,000, $25,000, and $50,000, showcasing a range of options from classic wagons to modern SUVs. Highlights include David's nostalgic Volvo V50 and Scotty's sporty Ford XR6. The conversation also touches on personal car experiences, car club events, and even a quiz segment that tests their automotive knowledge.
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Adelaide Grand Prix
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Brembo brakes
clutch
CVT
differential
Dutton rally
engine warning light
external slave cylinder
Acura NSX
BMW M1 (E26)
Ford Excursion
Ford Fiesta Active
Ford Focus
Ford Laser
Ford Mustang
Ford Territory (China)
GMC Typhoon
Holden Caprice
Holden Commodore
Honda Civic
Honda N360
Honda NSX
Honda Odyssey
Honda S600
Hyundai i30
Hyundai i40 Wagon
Hyundai Ioniq 5
Hyundai Kona
Hyundai Sonata
Lamborghini Diablo
Mazda 6 MPS
Mitsubishi Lancer
Mitsubishi Magna
Porsche Macan
Skoda Octavia
Subaru Forester
Subaru Liberty Sedan
Toyota Alphard
Toyota Camry
Toyota Crown
Toyota MR2
Volkswagen Golf
Volkswagen Touareg
Volvo 240
Volvo V50
Original notes
On this episode of Car Torque, Matty is joined by Scotty, David and Jim as they discuss their latest updates, as well as give good consumer advice for family cars for budgets of 5, 15, 25 and 50k. The boys then battle it out at the end of the show in the quiz for bragging rights!
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