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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Bring a Trailer podcast.
Alex Porter here at the Bring a Trailer headquarters in San Francisco, joined by Beck and Randy.
Hey, gents.
Howdy, Alex.
Hey, man.
What are we talking about today?
Well, I thought first we could have a little breakdown from Beck on an event that you and
I both missed this weekend, Randy, which is kind of a bummer.
But we did a little collab with the Motoring Club, Motoring Coffee, and then you both
missed it after putting some of the logistics together.
But Beck was there.
We had team there, and a bunch of people were there, and we had cars there, but no, Beck,
tell us about it.
And your truck was there minus you.
Yeah, no.
So I was kind of there in spirit because the GMC was there, so that was me being there
as far as I'm concerned.
In spirit.
When you did a work truck, and that was actually the most legitimate one that we had available
to us.
It was perfect.
And Randy...
That is always the most legitimate one.
It is legitimate.
I will add a 72 GMC, 25454.
And you came down to put ETF in it to make it all happen.
Yeah.
You're like, hey, we're going to borrow the truck and run it over to the other side of
San Francisco.
And I was like, let me check that thing out before I put civilians in it.
I can drive around a lot of problems in cars, but you throw the keys to your 1972 truck to
somebody and you want to make sure it's right.
So anyway, I put some miles on that thing on Friday and then it was a Saturday morning,
Sunday, Sunday morning.
You guys went ripping over to the Marina Middle School.
Yep.
Sunday morning, Cameron ripped over there with three abreast in the GMC pickup, which is
I think the best way to drive around in there.
Three in the cab.
Okay.
You ever played a joke on your friends where there's three in the cab and if you're on
the far passenger side, you lean down so nobody can see you and it makes it look like
the other two are snuggling?
You ever done that?
No.
Come on.
Never heard that in my life.
That's a classic pickup truck move to prank your friends and then people into the crosswalk
or like, check those folks out.
Bench seat hijinks.
Anyway, sorry, I don't know whether they did that.
I should have instructed them to do that, but anyway, they were driving over to this
event.
So eventually you'll get to tell about your event.
That's fine.
They hustled over there.
I hustled with my kids.
They came along, which is always fun.
Notably, the last...
You took the SC?
You're not allowed to see?
Took the SC.
Yep.
Kids in the little jump seats.
I figure I've got this narrow window of time where they fit back there comfortably.
So they're both in the back?
Both in the back.
Wow.
And got there around, I don't know, started around 730, 745.
It was already a line down the block.
It was rather impressive to see.
And it's at a middle school.
Marina Middle School, which is a huge asphalt parking lot along with their outdoor play space
for that school.
It's one of those just classic, enormous, urban public schools.
And it kind of blew my mind that we actually hadn't figured out how to do something like
this already because it is so centrally located while still close to getting to the bridge.
If you want to go to Marin County, you need to go for a drive.
And there's so rarely have those kind of spaces in the city.
It's kind of the best one in the city or one of the best, isn't it?
I mean, it's a big...
It really is.
It's flat.
That's a big one too.
Yeah, it's cool.
Most of these big open spaces in the city, because of the nature of how the cities laid
out, are on multiple platforms, like my kids' school.
The geography?
Yeah.
The geography is there.
The contour lines cause it to be like this.
And even my kids' school has four separate yards that cascade down a hillside.
And this is one big, giant, flat open space.
And it was full.
It was rather impressive.
I was just looking up before we got on.
The last one of these I went to for Motoring Club was almost exactly two years ago.
And it was before they had their facility here in the city now.
And it was really just sort of a starter event, just kind of get the word out.
Same venue?
No, it was at Baker Beach.
Yeah, it was at the beach parking lot.
Which was a super cool spot.
Which I think is cool.
Yeah.
It was.
And it was small.
It was like 12, 15 cars the most.
And you're kind of battling the dog walkers who've shown up.
Sure.
And you just hope that people don't complain.
And I think someone told me they eventually sort of got kicked out of there because it
got to be too popular.
And it's government space, so it's a little less, I guess, exactly that.
Exactly.
I even was looking it up on the Motoring Club Instagram, and there was like most certainly
a park ranger parked in the backdrop of the photo from the event two years ago.
But this one, clearly they're involved with the school district on this one.
I'm not sure what their relationship is, but they had gates open, people with flags
parking everywhere.
It was the most substantial, legit cars and coffee that I've been to.
I don't know about you, but like a lot of the ones I've been to, they feel kind of,
I don't know, you get an email like Berkeley cars and cars.
Yeah, they're rain shackles.
They're very much like sort of thrown together, which is part of the charm, which is part
of the charm.
No, like official real presence, typically.
But this one felt much more legit.
Bring your own coffee to Moscow.
Exactly.
For sure.
And this one, like people like purposefully didn't bring their coffee because they wanted
a motoring coffee and they had their little setup there as well.
You guys ever been to the big ones in SoCal for comparison?
No, you've never been to the old Crystal Cove or donut derelicts.
What's the one that's, I did go and I think this one's gotten busted up to it was the
one up in the shopping center up in Malibu.
Well, that was the, you're talking about the one where we went, I was there.
Were you there without, I mean, crazy cars showed up to that.
They called that place.
There was the, the launcher with the rear engine showed up, you know, that looks like
what are those called?
The one that looks like an integrale, but the whole back pivots up.
Wow.
S4.
S4, yes, correct.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think that was during our Peterson event.
We went down there and then.
That may have been right.
So one of those.
So you guys have been to some other cars and coffee, but yeah, it's cool that it felt like
it was well put together.
The Blackhawk one was huge too in East Bay.
I'm sure you went to that one, Randy.
But it was definitely ramshackle.
Like you're in a parking lot, intermixing with the Priests is going shopping, right?
But like, but there were hundreds of cars at that one.
This almost even felt close to a BAT alumni gathering.
Like a sanctioned event.
For sure.
Because like cars were being parked at all the right angles and they knew how to keep
special spots open for when like the Bugatti shows up, they bring that in and the Carrera
GT shows up.
They were very controlling of that.
There was an overflow space.
There was clearly a, this is your modified Audi SUV territory.
You can sort of move to the back.
It was always delicate.
Oh, it's very delicate.
Oh, you're a good friend of ours, but you showed up in your Buick enclave.
Yeah.
Thank you for asking for the first party space.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll take a pass on that.
Yeah.
You can go park behind the coffee truck.
Was this our guy, Mike Perlman?
Was he the one in charge?
Okay.
Shout out to him.
He does a good job.
He's dialed.
Perlman and Rappatti.
Yeah.
The mics.
I mean, the most enormous line for coffee that I've seen before.
It was clearly in high demand.
I mean, that's the good news because it's good, but that's also the terrible news, right?
We had that at our San Diego meetup.
Oh, the Encinitas then?
Yeah.
And it's like one person is making a custom coffee for a thousand people.
And you get like, I mean, if I get into a coffee shop and there's four people in line
in front of me, I'm like, I'm good.
I'm just going to go to the vending machine or I'm going to go bail, right?
But you show up and you're like, well, this is part of the social vibrancy.
You stand in line for three hours for coffee.
That's not speaking to me.
It doesn't speak to me.
But I'm like, industrial grade, Van, take the coffee to the people.
Fifty-five gallon.
I don't know how you do it.
I don't know how you do it.
And I'm not a coffee snob, but coffee snob is probably standing in line for three hours,
but that would be kind of crazy.
So maybe that could be evolved.
I think that's kind of the MO of Modering Club, though.
Like they get this trendy response and people see it online and they want to go be a part
of that.
And being in the line is the cool part.
I think they want to take a photo of themselves in the line.
But what I did, I went through all this to get coffee.
I'm so out of touch.
As opposed to I'm so out of touch with what's cool.
Well, I talked to Robert and he said it's a lot of young people and there are a lot of
kids in cars and stuff.
Totally. I love that.
No, I look through the gallery like crazy.
I mean, the galleries from the event were very, very cool, interesting crowd.
Super, all you mentioned, Bugatti and everybody probably thinks that Sharon showed up.
But it's like, you know, like, yeah, yeah.
Early car, which is crazy.
There was like teenagers walking around.
Like I think like even like local neighborhood teenagers, but then the car spread
was probably eighties to like 2010.
So it was like kind of reassuring, but you're not wrong.
Like in the city, I never wait in line for anything because if you see a line, you know,
you can walk half a block and there's going to be an alternative option.
But notably Marina Middle School is like not near.
Yeah, it doesn't give you that option.
It doesn't.
I'm glad it was so popular.
What were the cool cars?
Yeah, what were the highlights?
We had, it sounds really silly, but there was a Suzu Trooper that was heavily modified.
It was kind of interesting and funny to watch, but there was the Bugatti.
There was a Carrera GT.
There was a whole slew of all your E46 M3s, a couple of fancy color.
Some black plates, some modern black plates, matching black paint colors.
With the default number.
Correct. That's my favorite.
E46.
I need a black and yellow California license plate and it has like the default DMV number
on it.
It says bad.
E46.
Anyway, did you list an Suzu Trooper first before all these other things?
He apologized before he got knocked out of your mouth and you were just like, yeah,
there was an Suzu Trooper there.
And then, I mean, I mean, there was, there was a Bugatti.
There was.
I was also with my children and I was honestly like, they loved the Trooper the most.
Of course.
Yeah.
Basically, honestly, I asked them what their favorite cars were that were there and the
Ariel Adam.
That's like a toy.
It just looked like a toy kind of thing.
And then my daughter just like, there was one Ruby Stone Carrera RS.
And so that to her was like sort of purplish and she just liked that.
Carrera RS.
What?
1964.
Wow.
Yeah.
Who brought that?
Pile.
He probably sold it to the guy.
But he definitely knows, Robby, but who I don't know that some dude, it was a lady.
I think everyone was in line for coffee.
Like I rarely there were no people at the event.
It was just it was a huge and a line.
There was an 828 M5 with the event was a parking lot for the coffee, for the mobile
coffee.
I love that.
But there was an 828 M5 with a bin full of hot wheels that just said, take one.
Oh, that's fun.
It was just like grab my kids.
At first I sort of wanted to like ask, like, Hey, are you sure?
Like, is this really okay?
But there's nobody there.
There's nobody there.
Because he's in line for coffee.
So it's like Halloween where they leave a bowl on the on the and they're not home.
Please take just one.
One child took home 87 hot wheels.
The worst.
My kids waiting in line behind a grown adult.
Oh, that's a very cars and coffee moment.
That's like car culture.
Everybody talks about car culture.
That's our culture.
The adult standing in front of a child to grab a free hot wheel.
That's pretty much it.
That's pretty much.
That's pretty much it.
Oh, man.
Dude, I love it.
What a cross-section of society and crazy cars you list off and I just love that it's
popular and cool.
I mean, Muddering Club has a lot of gravity, right?
I mean, they blast that out that they're going to be there and organize it and they
have a cool product and a cool group and even their coffee shop, which has an interesting
green portion in it right now is great in town.
I'm super stoked at the stuff that they're doing.
I'm jealous.
You're giving us trouble, Alex, for not going, but I wish I could have been there.
No, I was teasing because I wanted to be there and kind of foolishly thought I was going
to be and then my travel plans got in the way of it.
But I'm so glad you guys went.
You're a pretty good BAT staff turnout.
Oh, yeah.
We had seven or eight people there in the booth.
I'm kind of surprised.
I can't really think of an equivalent-sized event that's happened in the city.
We haven't done an event in the city in so long.
I mean, we did Power Station a long time ago.
But I mean, there was a Radwood here and there was some stuff down on the docks, right?
Like guys were trying to do car shows down on the docks.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
There's been a Radwood at Pure 3032.
And then there's some car show that happens like out in Golden Gate Park that was annual
and popular, but I was never really invited.
You don't hear about it through like the grapevine.
You remember that?
No.
I know what you're talking about.
What was that thing called?
You mean like an organized car show?
Yes, very organized car show.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Nobody knows.
And then there's like the grassroots like rally stuff.
I mean, the start of the melee and the start of the snowball used to be as big as what
you're talking about.
I mean, everybody would come out.
It was in the Presidio Green and it was like amazing.
It's out of the California.
It used to be.
And that was, yeah, that was super high quality at the top of Mount Hill.
Yeah, but now I heard that starting in Palo Alto this year.
I don't think it started in the city for the last three years.
I know.
The Fairmont thing was so rad.
Fairmont was incredible.
So anyway, maybe someday they'll bring it back there.
But you and I did Vinay, Israeli Kimberboard.
It was started at the ballpark one year and that was like a pretty big rad car show.
Yeah, kind of on the side of that was a snowball.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Anyway, San Francisco events are few and far between, but let's hope they blow this up
and take over it.
I mean, breakfast club.
That's like SF adjacent, right?
That's like 20 minutes away and the Black Hawk is gone, right?
Yeah.
So that was a big one that a lot of people came to.
Alice's is still a party whenever you can get down there.
There is like an unofficial one out at Ocean Beach.
That seems like it gets broken up every time.
But, you know, a lot of Saturday or Sunday mornings, I see
Corvair's and Corvettes headed westward, you know, through our neighborhood.
We used to do that with the BMW 2002 club, the Bay Area O2 club.
You guys get busted up too.
No, if they ever asked, we were always leaving pretty quickly
because that was our starting location for the not scenic 49 mile drive through the city,
which was we would usually start at the Ocean Beach.
It would be like a good 15, 20, 02s.
And then we would drive a select route through the city, end up maybe at
Treasure Island or something like that.
But we were always only there for a little bit, but you're not wrong with it.
When car shows, I mean, there's two types.
There's the ones that start Saturday morning, the ones that are there
Saturday at 10 p.m.
And again, the park rangers break it up.
Also on any given weekend day, if it's sunny, you can see
500 dirt bikes going down.
19th Avenue, 12 o'clock.
Really? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Danny Lurie is like cracking down on all that now, right?
There's like no side shows or whatever.
I'm like, good luck.
Good luck stopping that.
I'm fine. Totally.
Do you remember what year that was that we did the power?
So was that 2018?
Could it have been that long ago?
Was it eight years ago?
The power station?
It was the first ever.
I don't know, I'm almost positive of 2018 because you guys were
did it while I was here, but I wasn't part of the team that went to go do it.
It was sort of an experimental work.
But you worked for the company?
I was. OK.
Like a new hire at that point?
Yeah, amazing summer.
Amazing, like led everybody just drive across town and show up.
We like told you not to come.
What did we do?
I think there was a select team that had been notified.
And you'd like live in town.
You couldn't cruise over in your was a while driving.
You probably wanted to bring the XTERRA.
That's why we were like, I mean, the SC motor was built by that.
So I would have been you could have brought the SC.
We should have had you there with the S.
God, you had the motor built that long ago.
That's what I learned.
But number two, there was a great Honda S 600 at that event.
You remember that? No.
Camisa showed up riding shotgun in it.
You remember that? It was a roadster.
I don't remember that red.
I remember there was a there was a Zinardi NSX.
I remember that very distinctly.
I only have vague memories of it.
And I remember it being really popular.
I mean, it was our first one.
I was standing at the front with like the clipboard
doing the whole thing that we used to do for years.
And the second one was down in LA and that one was everyone.
Everyone was traveled down to LA for that one.
Peterson. Yeah.
I stood with a clipboard out in front for that one, too.
And Howard and I and the Peterson docents
who didn't know what BAT was,
we were like competing over who was actually in charge.
It was like a whole amazing situation
that I can spend 20 minutes describing.
Early days, more and more stories.
Anyway, the SF event sounds like it was awesome.
Are they doing another one?
When are they doing it again?
I think they're doing four this year.
It sounded like they're trying to do it quarterly,
which sounds like the right kind of cadence at least.
I don't think they've announced a date for the next one though.
They like to announce late.
Correct.
Because those guys are hip.
Later than we're even used to.
Yes.
The coffee shop that Motor and Coffee
that this is all associated with is so...
Have you walked in?
Oh, yeah.
Okay. I feel so uncool when I walk in there.
Speaking of hip, right?
And it seems like there's people interested in cars,
but there's also just like,
there's a Venn diagram crossover between hip young people
and hip young car people there.
So there's also non-car people there hanging out.
It's on Union Street,
which is also just a very trendy place in the city.
So there's no way you could possibly have
like a lot of foot traffic in that kind of location
and have it not be grabbing into a crowd
that they just see your 9-12 hot rod and think,
ooh, a green car and just want to take a photo with it.
It looks so crappy in there.
I went in there on Saturday with my dad.
I warned them and it's just like dusty
and none of the paint matches.
I was like, I'm sorry for everyone.
But I took a selfie.
My dad was so happy to see that car there.
Just made his week.
You know, he said, right?
He loves that car.
He thinks it's such a rocket ship.
Oh, what were people saying in the coffee house?
It's in conjunction with some kind of activation
for a AI company.
So like everything's green.
Like the drinks are green.
There's a green everything.
So it's in keeping with a larger theme
on what they're doing there at the coffee shop.
What are you pulling up, Randy?
I just pulled up the first BAT alumni gathering,
a fun morning with friends old and new story.
This is February 15th, 2018.
Oh my God.
It was early.
That's actually before my time.
Okay.
Oh, so all the trouble you're giving us
for not inviting you, maybe we did invite you.
Who knows?
Maybe we didn't even know each other.
I want to read that.
Anyway, that's the one they called the Spaniard.
You know who I'm talking about?
The user.
That's his name.
Oh, he's the Spaniard?
He's the Spaniard.
With the S600?
And he has that S600.
And it's fantastic.
I thought you were making a sick gladiator reference.
It is.
That is his user name.
The one they call the Spaniard.
Come on, dude.
Get with the program.
Oh my God.
He's an all-time All-Star on BET.
That is an amazing user name.
Do you remember this pro showed up in this full VIA?
Oh, HF.
Yes.
A real fan alone.
1600, yeah.
It's called an HF, right?
No, that's a fan alone.
I mean, that's like the real deal.
The 1.6.
That's full VIA there is.
I was apparently there in the Inagrale.
Anyway, alumni gatherings starting in 2018.
On the other end of the ragtag spectrum,
there's the Hillsboro Concours.
That's a kind of story barrier event.
And we're going to be involved this year,
which is pretty cool.
Yes, that's right.
That's another one that's coming up.
When was the last time you were at Hillsboro Concours?
A little known fact.
I've never been.
What?
I've never been in my life.
You've been right back?
I have not.
What?
I've ridden up in listings all the time.
Such and such car was at Hillsboro Concours.
It's right there on the 2.8.
It's pretty close to your house.
It's in listings a lot.
Local cars end up getting shown there or whatever else.
So we're going to be there.
It's going to be cool.
It should be awesome.
I went there one time when the Swig Brothers
were showing something.
Totally.
And I took my then three-year-old daughter,
who's now in junior high.
So you have been.
Yeah.
I was working for BAT.
I was in the homemade Meredith-Nannenberg BAT jacket
back when we didn't have real merch.
Totally.
And I remember having to carry my daughter the whole length
to get her BAT.
You know what it's like to take a little kid doing a BAT.
It's like a Disneyland trip.
Pretty much.
100%.
Yep.
I'm sub two weeks to Disneyland.
So don't get me started on that.
I'm already having heart palpitations thinking about it.
Well, cool.
I love that you've been to that event.
And what's our claim to fame?
Longest, continuously running Concours in the nation?
Yeah.
Or in the world?
I don't even know.
I think it's nation.
It's something like that.
But it's just been around forever.
It's been around.
It's an institution.
Yeah, yeah.
It's an institution.
Anyway, a little shout out for those guys, too.
Yeah.
So we've got some events happening,
even though it's the middle of winter,
some things are starting to unfold.
Yeah, we're only two weeks from Palm Springs.
Yes.
Beck, you're going to come?
I am.
That's going to be rad.
Cool venue.
Plenty of room for everybody.
Should be awesome.
And hopefully get to see Compass Collective,
you know, our local partner who have expanded from San Diego
to Palm Springs.
They're a brand new facility.
Hopefully we can go see that.
Carl and Jill, who are the best, who I think you've met before.
If not, they're awesome.
And they'll be heavily featured.
And hopefully we'll get to see their new facility.
Are we doing that in conjunction with them specifically,
or anyone else?
They're like the hosting partner,
because they're the only local partner we've had there,
or the only local partner we do have,
although we have other sellers in the area.
But we're actually doing it at an abandoned golf course
to tease everyone.
Like a decommissioned golf course.
They're like trying to turn it into nature.
It is.
It is currently a nature preserve.
But there's still the clubhouse.
There's still a clubhouse and the big parking lots
and all those facilities.
So we get to use those.
And then the golf course itself is like,
it's some of the north part of the city,
which is dunes, naturally.
And like those all got ruined by development.
And so they're turning them.
It's like going to return to dunes.
But they're just going to kind of let it happen organically.
We need some dune machines, though.
Oh, Randy's ready for it.
Talking about, are we going?
Are we going?
Makes.
I got what, two weeks to get an air-cooled vehicle down there?
You've got two weeks to buy a mix.
I know.
I already know the vehicle, because it's in San Diego,
which could like loop out to there.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
I love.
Now I just, now I got a reason to exist.
Manx with a Corvair engine, like Steve.
Vair Manx.
Yeah, Vair Manx would be really, really cool.
Do you know that that's a thing?
Putting Corvair engines in Manx is, yeah.
But when they were cheaper, people put SE engines in them, too.
But nobody would ever do that.
Now, that horsepower is too expensive back.
No, a lot cheaper.
LS, LS.
People do definitely do that.
They definitely put LSs.
And the front wheels never touch the ground.
For sure.
Anyway, that's going to be fun.
We're going to have a good crew out there.
Huge amount of excitement and popularity from the community.
I guess I should have assumed that that Palm Springs is a place
where there's like, we know there's a lot of people there.
I mean, SoCal.
Everybody's like, come back to SoCal.
Come back to SoCal.
Do an event, do an event.
And this one is kind of going to try to draw the people out
from the coast out to Palm Springs.
We also sell a decent number of cars out of Palm Springs.
100%.
Definitely a car culture there, as you and I have observed together.
Yes.
So yeah, there's already people who are driving up and down that street.
I'm always going past that dealership with the cool mid-century building
with all the cars on display.
For sure.
Yeah.
I mean, that has been there forever, hasn't it?
That one dealer, there's in Palm Springs,
there's one past car dealer.
And it's always got like a huge caddy in it.
Always.
Right?
Always.
Like a 70-elderado for gold.
Oh man, I love it though.
I do too.
It works.
That's me.
Randy thinks that everybody, every staffer's retirement program
is just to become a local partner.
And I'm going to be, I'm going to buy that dealership.
You're going to be the 12th local partner in Palm Springs.
Correct.
Perfect.
And sell only Caddy Verts only.
Oh.
That's going to be a bad.
And I was too much competition.
Totally.
My username is going to be Caddy Verts only.
There you go.
There you go.
Awesome.
Well, excited about all that stuff.
More exciting events, announcements to come throughout the year.
We're just talking about one today.
We're not teasing that one yet.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
It's secret.
It's that one's still secret.
Keep your calendars open in SoCal later in the year.
No, that one's going to be rad.
I had a couple of things for you guys, but I actually, I'm pretty fixated.
I've been thinking most of the day on this one question of the week that we had
from a couple of weeks ago, and I've been thinking about it a lot.
And I've got a bunch of anecdotes that I can share while you guys think about your own.
But it was a, what is the best temporary fix that you've ever put on a car that became permanent?
And I started thinking about this and it has like,
there's so many for me.
And I actually like started a whole list.
That wasn't the horrible image that they posted on the website of like the vice grips
on the blind window winder.
Correct.
They're like, you know, that's good enough.
The guy who won, it was a, he had a beetle and the floor pan finally gave up on it.
And he was going to get like Taco Bell or something.
And he asked if he could take the tray and they said, yes.
And he put the, he added the tray to the floor pan.
And it just kind of remained part of the beetle going forward.
Similarly, the first one that came to my mind was my old RX7 race car.
We swapped transmissions.
I can't, it's so long ago.
I can't remember the deal.
The car was an 80, but we put like an 85 transmission in it.
And the cut out for the shifter was slightly different for the different year transmission we put in.
And we didn't have a boot or anything.
So we just showed up, you know, with the beard transmission.
You could see the driveshaft and the couple like, you know, like spinning around behind the
transmission was only about an inch gap, but the tech, probably wisely, the safety tech inspector
was like, man, you guys got to cover that up.
Somebody's finger is going to go in there and get chewed off.
And we had a road sign in our trailer and we used tin snips and cut a piece of an old road
sign on that's normal bent it over the transmission tunnel and like use metal screws.
They were doing that at Shelby American in Venice.
Totally.
I mean, that's like normal.
Totally.
But I love that you did it.
And I was, I mean, that car is definitely dead, but whoever has it now.
I like to think that plate is still on there.
Piece of an aluminum roadside.
Where is that car now?
I mean, in a junkyard.
It has to be.
It shouldn't have been like, I had the car.
What was the car?
It was a 1980 FB RX-7 that was a series called Pro 7.
That was like a spec series with those cars.
But you could like have all the best parts.
And ours, we bought from a guy who actually worked at Yahoo,
who was painted the color of Barney the dinosaur,
because it was the Yahoo color back then purple, bought it in San Jose.
And he gave us a bunch of spares, including a GSLSE rear end with like the limited slip
and everything and this better trans.
And slowly as we ate through parts, we like put all those in our car.
And I remember him saying, he's like, it's a non-sunroof car.
It's like waste different way faster than sunroof cars.
Way faster.
Yeah, totally.
Like zero faster.
Not in our hands.
We were at the, we were in the back.
It's like the end of a second of lap fast.
Totally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Three grand.
Sunroof, delete.
Straight cash.
That's hilarious.
I went around Sears Point shotgun in a Pro 7 car once.
Did you really?
Yes.
It was a lot of fun to drive.
But he went and was racing Pro 7 and I went around.
And all I just remember it wasn't that fast and it was very loud.
It's really loud.
It's the rotary just ripping so loud.
We would, apparently the guy who bought it from us, the event after he bought it from us,
the motor popped, which I'm not surprised.
But we would just over rev it.
You know, like if you needed an extra 1000 RPM on a short shoot.
Just take it.
I mean, our argument was always there's no valves to float.
Like what's going to happen?
You know, just take it to 9000 RPM, you know.
So it served that way for years for us.
I think I met your buddy.
I ran into a guy at a drag race.
At the drag.
That's who I was shotgun with.
Yeah, he was great.
And we ran in like different groups because he was like NorCal guy and I was SoCal guy.
And I've still never yet driven around Sears Point or Thunder Hill.
You guys were BSing about Pro 7.
Correct.
He remember we knew a lot of the same guys.
Pro 7 was feeder into Miata.
Correct.
It was like subspecmiata.
The guy that I bought my car from was selling it to build a specmiata.
And I remember he was like, yeah, it's going to be like 10 grand to build that car.
And I remember thinking, oh my God, that's like an unreachable number.
Totally.
Yeah.
No, that's how we were all doing that stuff.
That's been amazing anyway.
Sorry, we can talk about it.
Slight tangent.
Do you have any stories like that fixes that became permanent?
You guys are both so dialed.
Maybe you don't have these.
I have a bunch of other ones.
Oh, no.
I've got one that was kind of embarrassing was my attempted back dating of the bumpers on my O2.
Oh.
Which was pulling the big, you know, Euro 74 spec aluminum, but somehow felt like the weight of steel.
Rip those off.
And then unfortunately with O2s, the way they come off, they leave a gaping hole in the front end.
On the back, it's easy.
It's an easy swap on the front.
If you wanted to make it look right, you got to cut all that kind of stuff.
Bought these little plates to sort of weld in and thought, well, doesn't look that great.
I'd never welded before.
It was my first ever welding job I did with a friend of mine.
And we both did a very poor job.
Spray painted it purple because I didn't have Molliga paint to match it.
With the idea like, I'll do a better job someday.
And then like four years later, I sold the car on VAT and this is how it was.
It was still the same.
Still the exact same way.
That's amazing.
Nothing had changed.
Still no bumper on the front at all.
Nothing like your first welding job.
I also, we mangled quite a few welding jobs on that RX7.
Same thing.
Trying to weld onto aluminum.
Blowing through the steel of the nose of the car that was probably this point,
so incredibly thin on a steel plate.
Some oil doesn't ignite on the other side.
It was so hard to weld that.
It was pretty tough first ask.
I did like some bench welding to sort of like try to get a little bead going.
And that was like, oh, this looks great.
I think this should be easy.
And then went on the car and it was just awful.
Nightmare.
It's amazing.
Do you have any of those, Randy?
Any fixes that stuck around forever?
Um, yes.
So there's a picture of a Mercedes on the wall here that's now VAT alumni.
That was at the Peterson event.
And then the Green Fintail.
And I set that up like a rally car in a very hurry up fashion before the melee that I ran it on.
And the night before I was putting in Euro headlights and I was doing all this stuff.
And I love those cars in period pictures because they have a center
Cyclops driving light over the grill.
And I'm like, how the heck am I going to?
I got, I got a light.
I had like a-
It wasn't mounted to the bumper?
It came through the grill?
Yeah.
I had a Marshall light.
So it has to go up with the hood because the grill goes up with the hood on a Benz.
So it's wired and whatever else back through the hood.
But I was like, how am I going to mount this thing?
And it's like late at night, the events tomorrow.
I'm like, but I got to have the Cyclops light because that's like,
the reason I bought the car was for this one stupid driving light.
And I was like, how am I going to mount it?
And I'm looking at pictures online.
I can't figure it out or it's something I'm not going to be able to do.
Thoroughly Benz grills are plastic, right?
The grid in them is plastic so you can bust it really easily.
So I'm like, okay, I'm going to sandwich something on here.
And I had a vice.
I had like some scrap aluminum and I just like banged out this like super crude
angle iron looking thing.
And I was like, oh, that corner is too sharp.
But like bent it over with a hammer or whatever.
Anyway, it was very crude, but it got the light on the car.
I had these big Bosch.
What are those things called?
They have some clever marketing name.
And then the Marshall one was in the center and it was non-functional for that event.
The wide was for functional, but the one I got on like last second,
it wasn't even wired.
I was just like, stuff the wires through the grille, like get it on there,
like turn the key and go.
And then I kept that car for years driving it like that.
But that same, I know it's always one of those things.
The light eventually worked, I think, but it's one of those things where you're like,
oh, I'll go clean that up next time, right?
I'll go build a nice mount for that.
And you're just like, the lights on there were good.
You know, so I just drove it on a bunch more rallies and all over town and commuted it in it
and did everything and just left that.
Did it get sold with that?
It got sold with it.
It may still have it on.
It may still have it on.
That was pretty homebrew.
You know, it's like, oh, I've got this.
What do I have?
I have a vice and I've got a hammer.
I was like, okay, that's precise enough.
Let's do it.
You know, so anyway.
I love that kind of stuff.
Yeah, if you look close on that picture of it,
although maybe you can see it, but it was not the finest metal craft.
I ran my carbogea for about 10 years with a zip tie chain as the battery hold down.
You know, like it came loose at one point and I had a bunch of days.
Daisy chained them to hold it down.
And then I would clip one when I needed to change the battery.
And then I just reattach.
I did that for like 10 years.
Same chain.
So I've done this more times than I'm.
That will not pass tech.
No, it wasn't taking the gear onto any tracks, but the Porsche, the green Porsche,
before I put carbs on it, I tried to get it to pass smog for so many years.
And so I had the injection on it.
And it had this like rubber plastic snorkel that led to the air box.
And it was like an unobtainium part because it was just for the 912.
It's not on 914s with the same motor.
And so that had like a big crack in it.
And I spent 10 years siliconeing, like wrapping in duct tape, that snout, that trumpet,
because, you know, it would compress and it would make the car miss under hard acceleration.
And I look for that part for 10 years.
And sometimes I'd find a whole motor and I'd be like,
can I just buy that part off?
They'd be like, you can buy the whole motor, but you can't buy that one intake piece.
So until I had carburetors, that was a terrible fix that I had to keep redoing
over and over again for a decade.
On my SC at one point, I was trying to reduce weight.
I was still autocrossing at the time.
Hell yes, brother.
So I went, really, dude, you've autocrossed that car?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I never knew that.
Targa top on or targa top off?
Off.
The only way I can fit with a helmet.
Yeah, okay, I am.
I'm gonna call you guys at the top off.
A little Targa autocrossing on the weekend's back.
Built-in roll bar, buddy.
All these things, I totally safe.
I don't know about back.
Keep proceed.
I want to hear more detail.
I also made the mistake.
I thought I was reducing weight in the right spots by taking the spare wheel out the front.
And my mechanic was like, no, you probably want that weight up front.
Ooh.
But I was trying to cut weight in.
So I went from the most gigantic battery you've ever seen is in the front end of 911s.
On the driver's side, unfortunately.
On the driver's side.
Really, really offsetting the weight balance.
Big try.
One that you can pretty much never get in and out very easily.
I went with a red top, you know, optima, small, but like the same cranky power, that sort of thing.
But I had to make a custom mount for it.
And I didn't have even spare sheet metal around or anything for it.
But I had wood.
And so I got a piece of like quarter inch plywood, cut it to shape,
and then screwed it into a hole down there.
Yes.
Went for an autocross run, came back, and the plywood is starting to split down a little bit.
Like no tech and sector of that.
They don't really shake your battery.
No, no, no.
So didn't think much of it.
Maybe they should.
Like that in autocrossing, that's one of the most terrifying.
I mean, I've seen some tech guys not look up from their clipboard and be like,
good, I've seen some shoddy tech.
All good.
Tech inspections.
But later on, I had taken it to high tech ticket service,
or maybe it was for the engine bill, whatever it was.
And I noticed when I was at home at one point that like
on some large invoice of servicing, there was like battery mount.
I looked inside and they had replaced it with a proper metal.
But the wood was still.
They didn't even ask.
The wood was good.
They just did it.
They're like, please, please replace this.
I would delete.
I would delete.
You're like, oh, I built that myself.
They're like, yeah, sure.
Yeah, we could see that.
We appreciate that.
And it's now gone.
Amazing.
It's now a wheel chalk.
There's a decent percentage, like a double just a percentage
of things that I have done on my own car that I've had to pay
someone else to fix.
Remedy.
To do, to fix correctly.
You did a fix and then you needed somebody to fix it.
The hardest one was rebuilding the rear suspension on the 911
because you have to index the splines and I didn't have a flat
garage by any means.
And I thought I could like mark on the chassis like where they were
and then like just eyeball and put it back in.
And then of course, reassembled it all, lower the car down the
cars at like a good five degree angle.
It was tail down.
No, it was like sideways.
Oh, you had got them messed up off side to side.
Correct.
Yeah, okay.
Oh, man, I've lowered a few 911s in my day.
It's tough.
And people have very strong feelings about how much rake
they're supposed to, because when people sit in them,
it sits down a little bit.
I mean, it's not too bad lowering up and down if you're just going
a few little points because they're adjustable.
It's the second you start pulling out spring.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
That's really challenging.
Counting splines.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
You ever lowered a 911 ready?
No, I've played with the ride height on the 356, which is torsion bar.
Yeah.
But 911s, some of that's similar, but some of that's probably different.
Do you miss having a 911?
You haven't had a 911 in a long time.
You were such a Porsche guy.
Such a...
And now you're like F that.
Such a...
No, man, I've got one.
I know.
One, it's a whatever sport beetle folks might have.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, I wasn't going to say it.
I'm glad you did.
But no, I like Porsches.
I'd get back into a Porsche here and there.
It's so convincing.
If a 993 wide body wasn't $220 on the site today,
it's just happened.
I would be inclined.
That's problematic.
That's just a lot of...
But wouldn't you want another like longhood though?
Yes, I have my eye on a few of those that are for sale right now.
Good for you, buddy.
Good for you.
But we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
Those are fun cars.
What's the dream for you back as it's still 65?
I've been thinking again about 65, 9-11s.
Yeah, I mean a first gen.
Yeah, early, simple, like plain, plain to 11, no letter.
What do you mean first gen?
Like short wheelbase.
Short wheelbase, but specifically...
A plain 9-11.
6 before they started to come out with all the letters.
Yeah.
Like before S&T and all that.
Green numbers on the dials.
Yeah, green numbers on the dials,
script 9-11 on the rear deck lid.
That sort of thing.
Skinny wheels.
Steelies with hubcaps for me.
That really moved on.
Yeah, I'm ready for that.
Yeah, you guys do too many nice things.
I'm not going to list all the other problematic things
I've done to my cars over the years.
It's embarrassing.
It's too embarrassing now.
I was trying to repress all those memories of fixes
I've made like that, but the light came up.
Homemade zip tie.
I mean, I homemade so many things from my race car.
I also homemade like a cover for the fuel pump
because it kept getting dirt in it
because it hangs on the bottom.
I spun that car off under the dirt so many times,
it would cut off anyway.
Race cars are so much different though.
Like that's totally normal.
Yeah, but it's still embarrassing.
You watch a good fabricator do stuff and you're like,
oh my God.
My boss was this way.
He could spin something up really quick,
but he'd been doing it for so long.
Even his quick work looked super pro.
And I would spend hours on some horrible looking
contrived thing that I slapped together
with bolts and bad welds.
Anyway, any other interesting stuff on the website
that you want to talk about?
Randy and I did a little bit of that last week,
but my watch list has really filled up with
Foxbody Mustangs and all kinds of interesting things.
The 300G, you saw that drop right after the B,
Randy, we were talking about the C300 last year.
So he sold, it wasn't a B, but he sold the 300.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
He sold the first 300.
And everybody was enthusiastic about it,
and he sold it.
And then right after that,
he popped in with one of your favorite early Chrysler.
300G, which was bought on the site too.
There's weird stuff on the site.
I don't know how weird.
Texaco gas station, can you, can you pitch the Texaco?
Would you like to purchase?
Yeah, it's like, we're on loop net.
You know, we're like on a real estate site now.
A guy is selling like a 40s or 50s Texaco gas station building
full of all the memorabilia and the gas pumps and everything.
So you can just like, I was looking at like the concrete it was sitting on.
I was like, can you just lay this like in a parking lot somewhere?
And he has like curbing poured for it and stuff.
So you'd have to replicate that.
But it's set up as a drive through.
You remember, like I always, this is dumb,
but I always think of the back to the future scene, right?
When he goes back to the future, yes.
And like the car drives over the little ring ring bell
and five people run out and watch the week.
Sandman is playing.
Sandman is totally playing.
Mr. Sandman, not Enter Sandman.
It's a little different vibe, different era.
Anyway, that contraption, that building, that whole thing,
which is kind of like the life I want is being sold on BET right now.
I don't know how somebody's going to put it on a truck
or what they're going to do, but it comes with the roof, the windows,
the drive through, the signage, the pumps.
Yeah, the whole deal.
It just needs five employees in like all white with a red ball cap
to come running out and work on your 1939 Dodge.
In 55, it's five guys in matching suits run out in the 2015 version
back to the future part two.
It's a robot.
It's a single.
Is it really?
It comes out.
It's an ode to the original one.
Yes, it is.
Yeah, that will be here soon enough.
Wow.
Fascinating.
Anyway, I always think of that scene when I think of old gas stations
because I love how they come sprinting out to people.
And it looks like they can be served.
They're either pumping gas or serving hamburgers.
It's like the same outfit.
Well, across the street is hamburgers.
But it's the same uniform.
Same crowd.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can't give you a tab unless you order something.
So, anyway, so that is fascinating and live on the site right now.
What else do we need to talk about live on the site?
I was going to say the T-bird with the camera engine in it.
Did you see this?
Oh, my gosh.
It's the big square T-bird.
It's like a 59 or something like that.
And everybody's like, the motor is worth so much more than the car.
It's going to like, I'm worried it's going to tear the chassis apart.
Well, maybe.
But people are just like, what, like how fast does this engine come out of this car for the winner?
Right?
Like you buy it and you pull the motor out and put it in something else.
But he put it in like a fairly cheap Thunderbird.
But that's kind of what I like about it.
That's what everybody likes about it because it's like a fascinating thing.
You're used to those engines in a galaxy and then the seller wants 200 grand for it, right?
But this one is just like, yeah, anyway.
But also going fast in that car would be really surprising and interesting.
I have no idea what it would even feel like in that car with a three-speed manual.
I know.
I know.
Anyway, because this is like meaningfully shorter than what a galaxy would be, right?
It's still a big American car, but it's a smaller car than a big gal would be.
But it's just, it's an interesting car.
But it's not like the most desirable bird or Ford.
So it's just, it's curious.
That vehicle is curious.
It's a curiosity.
I do really like that specific one.
You should talk about the Emory 356.
I was going to say that's probably top of my watch list right now.
You've been on the phone a little bit.
A little bit.
John Oates of Hall & Oates is listing his 1960 356 Emory special cabriolet.
This has been in his collection for several years now.
He's obviously the one who got it built by Rod.
And it's been traveling around the country and sort of been unveiled at multiple locations.
It's a lot of, I mean, 97 comments already and there's still six days left.
Several people commented on that.
How they've actually seen this car before, but also they've seen John.
They've talked to John.
Yeah, right.
I will kind of admit, I didn't realize actually John's background in Porsche specifically.
He has quite a collection and it seems like he really puts his name on it.
There's an iconic picture of him leaning against a red 930 in period that he had that's modified.
Yeah, I remember seeing that a long time ago.
We've sold a couple of his X cars before including some race cars, I think.
Didn't he race IMSA at one point?
He did some sort of series.
I'm not sure if it was an IMSA one.
I believe he had a pretty close call at one point that kind of, I think,
ended his racing pursuits to a certain degree though.
He was talking about it in this car on Jay Leno's garage and when talking to Jay,
that was the deviation into more of the streetcar realm.
They can identify with each other.
They've both had some red skulls.
Yeah, but Jay keeps going though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I find it interesting.
He's never taken the hard top off of it, which is fascinating.
He got it delivered with the hard top on and it's just stuck with it the entire time.
Amazing.
But he was there with our photographer, Jordan Cole, who was just a phenomenal guy.
He's probably one of our top three in the country and we traveled Jordan up to him
and he spent the whole day and John Oates was just so gracious with his time.
It was pretty phenomenal for him.
Awesome.
Awesome car.
I'm so glad to have that on site.
I'm glad the community is stoked on it.
I was going to make a haul and it was a joke.
I will.
All you have to do is go read the comments.
You can see.
Oh, sorry.
I need to read more of the comments.
I saw the car come through and I was back on social and following Rod fairly closely
when that car was being built and delivered.
So I remember he was talking about that and then it got unveiled.
He was like all over.
They did some deal at the Porsche Experience Center for the unveil.
That's why people are like, oh, I saw that car and I saw him because, I mean,
there's not another one like it.
So anyway, we'll see if people go after it and are stoked on that car.
I remember seeing it all over the place when it came out.
It's a great car and plus you get to have lots of John Oates conversations.
My wife has been very envious.
It's been interesting.
Envious of you talking to him.
Wow.
She's a big fan.
She's just a huge fan.
We should conference call her in.
Talking to the stars of the music world in your job back.
That's kind of fun.
There's another Emory or Emory adjacent Porsche on the site.
Did you know that or you guys were so, you're so in the haze of John Oates conversations
that you missed the other one.
Come on, guys.
No, I'm also watching.
You're also watching that.
Okay.
More imports.
More imports.
Those guys were telling us that car was coming.
I didn't realize they had that car, but my favorite part of that car,
because I'm biased, goes to its first feature on BAT.
Oh, it's a previous pre-automation feature.
Oh, man.
When you guys were little kids.
Yes.
First year.
Because absolutely, that was in the first year of BAT.
Wow.
That car was linked to off of Emory's old website.
He had at the farm up in Oregon.
They had the parts obsolete website and they had a first sale tab that I used to drool over.
And he was supporting a bunch of race cars back in the day before they were building,
you know, Rossport motors and all this crazy stuff that they have now.
He was supporting a bunch of people in Sovereign, which I don't know if Sovereign,
the sanctioning body, if that's even in existence anymore.
We need to call it Vic.
Vic will tell us all about that.
Yeah, I will know.
He's Midwest.
You got to call somebody from the pack Northwest.
Oh, Sovereign was only Pacific Northwest.
It was out of Seattle, I think.
And there was a vibrant group of a bunch of Porsches and Rod supported it.
And this car was one of them.
And now the crazy part is it's like a street car.
It's a race car, but it's a street car.
Totally. And we've had quite a few of those, not even just 356s,
but we've had 911s and 912s that have floated through that were like Emory race cars.
And a lot of them have, I see this one used to have it.
They have that four spoke steering wheel that he liked.
There was a cool 911, I think white with black stripes on it recently.
But the one I remember is Fantasy Junction had a 912 that was like super modified race car
that Emory built.
It was number 912.
Is that right?
It was like a light blue.
That car came down and ran CSRG for a bunch of years.
Yeah.
I really liked that car.
Anyway, you can debate over the use of outlaw or whatever or what a race car, outlaw, whatever it is.
But the bottom line is this is a real 356 that Rod built in this style or he and his dad
maybe built in this style.
And it's pretty popular on the site.
Well, in this era, this is kind of my dream.
Like it can be a race car with a title.
A 356 does street and does track.
Absolutely.
The number on it is 902, actually.
Interesting.
Sorry.
Which is fascinating.
Oh, because I'm sure that's like a 901 reference, right?
Yeah.
Like 912Rs, Rad.
Anyway, those are a couple on the site.
No, we're not entirely in the pocket of big oats, but we are.
I thought you were.
Maybe you.
Beck's wife is in the pocket of big all-in-out oats.
Well, anyway, he'd prefer us to move along from that topic.
What else is on the site that you guys are watching?
I want that SVO Mustang.
That's another one like the Ferrari or like a couple other cars that I've been on for so long.
You just called it today.
I need one.
I've been talking about them for too long.
Here's a car that I'm going to cover the title of and you have to tell me what it is.
Oh, my God.
Alex doesn't know.
Beck.
I don't know.
Beck doesn't know.
I just.
Is it a Chrysler?
And Beck on a car showing them the photo and not the year make model title above it.
How about that?
It's a Chrysler?
That is a 1978 Plymouth Sapporo.
Like the beer?
Neither have you ever heard of it.
I think I've maybe featured one of these a million years ago.
Let me type Sapporo.
Plymouth is Sapporo?
Just whenever you want to have fun, just go type a beer name into the title on VAT.
You never know what you're going to get.
Never know what you're going to get.
Six results for Sapporo.
Oh, wow.
Look at these weird cars.
Anyway, the chairman of the Sapporo Automobile Club is going to reach out to us.
Oh, totally.
That you guys don't know what this car is.
I'm a guest.
Anyway, we put all sorts of funny titles about them early in the day.
When you say weed, you mean you?
That's the royal weed.
It's the royal weed.
Yeah, I wrote about five of them.
And then this is our first auction of a Plymouth Sapporo.
First ever VAT auction, $250,000 auctions.
And we got a Plymouth Sapporo live.
Preserved?
So we've already talked about that car enough.
No, no, no, no, wait.
Here's a title that needs to be read out loud on the podcast.
Preserved Euromarket Rarity, Colin.
1982 Mitsubishi Sapporo Turbo Convertible.
This was, that's why it kind of looks like a Chrysler product and kind of looks Japanese.
This was some joint product.
I don't know what it is.
All I know is the Sapporo that I need though.
The Sapporo I need is the one with the chrome target roll bar on it.
The one without that is like a thumbs down.
That's Sapporo.
Well, this one, does this one have it?
Oh, don't disparage.
I mean, that's your target roll bar.
It is like on a.
Let's go autocross it.
Let's go.
Totally.
Let's autocross this thing.
What's the power in this support?
Oh my gosh.
You don't want to know the answer to that.
The Mitsubishi Source 2.6 liter inline four.
105 HPs, it looks like.
That's what we've got on one of these.
Crazy.
Anyway, it's stoked on.
I'm actually.
It looks like it's an interesting fellow, young guy that's selling it.
And current bid is $777, five days to go.
I am definitely going to use your trick on some people.
Identify this car.
I mean, I love that stuff.
Both of you guys.
I'm going to try to find something else.
It's nothing.
You just stumped me, but like I've never heard of the vehicle before.
That's just dumping you.
It's amazing.
10 years in, you still learn a few things.
It's good to know.
Okay.
Good to know.
You could have asked me that about this TVR Cabrera.
Oh man.
I would not have known that one.
Top Gear has all their little classic bits on YouTube.
If you've been watching these,
my dad and I had some Manhattan's on Saturday and watched a bunch of old ones.
When they take their British Luxo barges to the TVR factory,
it's just a wonderful episode.
And there's like just shells of old TVRs lying around.
And like all the old like smutty calendars are still on the wall
from like the employees who are building the TVRs.
It's so great.
And they're just waiting to demolish that building
or that building is still functioning.
No, no, no, no.
It's former TVR.
Although there was a one point they brought it back out,
maybe in the 2000s.
Somebody owns the name and it's producing something.
They were licensing that name to Gran Turismo for several years.
That was pretty much my only exposure to them
until really honestly working at BAT.
I love TVRs.
I don't know if they're...
Do you really?
I do.
I think Gran Turras are cool.
Yes.
Really early ones.
Well, the one I like is a Griffith, which is not a TVR,
but it's the hot-rodded TVR.
Yeah.
What do they call that?
Like a 100 or a 300?
200.
Griffith 200.
Both either side.
I was wrong all the way through 200.
See, you stumped me.
You did fine.
You stumped me.
You did fine.
Griffith 100 does not exist.
Yeah, there's a crazy Audi Quattro rally car on the side right now.
This is on the list for sure.
Group 4 style.
Did you see the all-track Celica
with the cool aviation pictures behind it?
We have two all-track Celicas,
both body styles live right now,
a black one and a white one.
Your one was the white one with the aviation photos.
C-130 in the background in the hero shot, which is fantastic.
Have you ever gone through an entire BAT podcast
and not mentioned an airplane?
There's trivia.
Probably not.
Why would I?
Why is that a goal?
That's a false goal to avoid talking about that.
Oh, you're baiting me.
Okay.
All right, boys.
Thank you as always.
Days of Thunder coming up for all of you.
Days of Thunder coming up for us.
We'll be back here in 48 hours.
The three of us plus Tyler talking about Days of Thunder.
I've been having to hold Randy off all day long
because he's ready.
I'm ready.
I'm so ready.
He's ready.
He's ready.
I want you all to be prepared
for a 20-minute discussion on liveries.
At least.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, yeah.
You're ready.
Absolutely.
You have thoughts.
Thanks as always, boys.
And thanks to all of you as always for listening,
feedback, questions, concerns.
You can send those to podcast at bringitrailer.com.
Come to Palm Springs.
Come to Palm Springs.
Please.
And that's a wrap.
About this episode
The latest episode dives into a recent cars and coffee event hosted by the Motoring Club, featuring a lively discussion about the impressive turnout and variety of cars, including a Bugatti and a Carrera GT. Beck shares his experience at the event, highlighting the well-organized setup and the community vibe. The hosts also reminisce about past events, compare them to this one, and share amusing anecdotes about classic pickup truck hijinks. The episode captures the excitement of car culture and the joy of sharing it with family.
drive shafts
limited slip differential
LS
Pro 7
rotary engine
Sears Point
transmission
valve float
weight balance
Ariel Atom 500 V8
Audi Quattro
BMW 2002
BMW 3 Series
BMW M3
BMW M5
Buick Enclave
Cadillac Eldorado
Chevrolet Corvair
Chevrolet Corvette
Dodge Spirit
Ford Mustang
Honda NSX
Honda S600
Jeep Gladiator
Mazda MX-5 / Miata
Mazda RX-7
Nissan XTerra
Porsche 356
Porsche 911
Porsche 914
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche Carrera RS
Toyota Celica
Volkswagen Beetle
Original notes
This week, Alex, Randy, and Beck talk about the correct way to staff a pickup and/or a 911SC; our recent experience at Motoring Club Cars & Coffee in San Francisco; handling good friends in bad cars; Trooper apologies; "black plates" on black cars; the true meaning of car culture (hint: it involves stealing from children); the overall event situation in and around SF; Alex's looming family trip to Disneyland, God help him; the wrong way to think about a nature preserve; and Pro 7 memories.
Next up is our favorite recent Question of the Week, wherein the crew covers a failed bumper backdate, vice-and-hammer metalwork, and extremely questionable battery mounting techniques. They briefly explore the differences between Mr. Sandman and Enter Sandman, then lust after green-dial 911s, a vintage Texaco gas station, a John Oates/Emory 356, an SVO Mustang, and other watchlist favorites.
Mentioned in this episode:
6:43 March 16 BaT Meet-Up, Encinitas Event Gallery
14:20 First BaT Alumni Gathering: A Fun Morning with Friends Old and New
17:47 The_one_they_call_The_Spaniard
19:50 BaT Meet-Up, February 21 at Desert Dunes in Palm Springs, California
19:59 BaT Local Partner Compass Collective
23:24 Question of the Week: What’s Your Best Temporary Fix That Turned Permanent?
28:08 Beck's 1974 BMW 2002tii
36:02 1997 Porsche 911 Carrera S Coupe 6-Speed
37:54 1961 Chrysler 300G Hardtop Coupe
38:25 Texaco Service Station Replica w/ Pumps & Memorabilia
40:12 427 SOHC “Cammer”-Powered 1959 Ford Thunderbird Coupe 3-Speed
41:21 John Oates’ 1960 Porsche 356B Emory Special Cabriolet
44:19 1958 Porsche 356A Emory Outlaw Cabriolet Race Car and 1958 Porsche 356A Cabriolet Outlaw Racer
45:43 Twin-Plug 2.8L-Powered 1967 Porsche 911S Coupe Emory Outlaw
45:48 1968 Porsche 912 Emory Outlaw Race Car
46:51 24k-Mile 1986 Ford Mustang SVO
47:17 1978 Plymouth Sapporo
48:21 Preserved Euro Market Rarity: 1982 Mitsubishi Sapporo Turbo Convertible
50:59 Group 4-Style, AAN-Powered 1988 Audi Quattro
51:10 1988 Toyota Celica All-Trac Turbo and 1991 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC
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