The podcast mentions “Ferrari Luce” as a Ferrari name. The episode doesn’t explain much about it, but it sounds like it’s being brought up as a possible new model idea. There aren’t enough details here to say more about the car’s design or specs.
The Mercedes-Benz EQS is an electric luxury sedan made by Mercedes. It’s designed to be comfortable and high-end while running on electricity. The podcast mentions it as an EV that already exists in the lineup.
The Tesla Roadster is Tesla’s electric supercar idea. The hosts are debating whether Ferrari should build something that competes with an electric supercar, or something more mainstream.
The Porsche Panamera is a luxury sedan from Porsche. It’s designed to be comfortable for daily driving but still feel sporty. The podcast mentions it as a more fitting option than a different kind of electric sports car idea.
“Avant-garde” means experimental and unusual—like trying something different on purpose. They’re saying the design is meant to be cutting-edge, but they don’t think it works.
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orthopedic shoe
They’re using a metaphor: the car’s shape reminds them of an “orthopedic shoe,” meaning it looks more practical than stylish. It’s a way of saying the design doesn’t look exciting.
The Pontiac Fiero is an older sports car made by Pontiac. It’s known for having the engine placed toward the middle of the car. The podcast mentions it because the interior of another car reminded them of a Fiero.
The Ferrari F40 is a very famous old Ferrari supercar. They’re saying the car they’re talking about feels like a cheap-looking imitation of that kind of iconic design.
An electric car runs on electricity stored in a battery, not gasoline. They’re talking about how the interior and design fit the idea of a Ferrari EV.
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best selling Ferrari ever
“Best selling Ferrari ever” is a sales-positioning claim, implying Ferrari is aiming for its highest-volume model. The hosts connect it to a strategy where customers are funneled toward a specific (possibly electric) product to drive overall sales.
“Electric one” means the version that runs on electricity instead of gasoline. The hosts are saying the pricing/availability strategy might make you buy the electric version even if you’d rather have something else.
The Cybertruck is an all-electric pickup truck made by Tesla. It looks very unusual compared to most trucks, and it’s often talked about because it’s different. In the podcast, it’s used as a reference point for how surprising it is.
Rivian is a company that makes electric vehicles, like SUVs and trucks. Here, the host mentions it because they’re trying to remember which EV brand the new car’s look reminds them of.
Lucid is an electric-car brand that makes luxury sedans. The host is saying the car could have looked more like Lucid’s style and that would have been more appealing.
“Rolls” means Rolls-Royce, a brand famous for very expensive luxury cars. The host is saying the design should have gone all-in on that kind of luxury look.
Hyundai is a regular-mass-market car brand that sometimes designs cars with a quirky, bold look. The host is basically saying the Ferrari’s styling feels like it belongs to that kind of “quirky” category instead of feeling premium.
The Ferrari 412 is an older Ferrari model name. In the podcast, it’s mentioned as an example of something that could inspire a modern car idea. The speaker connects it to the concept of a sedan-style Ferrari.
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Hyundai EV6
The Hyundai EV6 is an electric car from Hyundai. The host mentions it as an example of a vehicle that looks and feels more thoughtfully designed than the new Ferrari being discussed.
The Kia EV6 is an all-electric car with a crossover-style body. It’s meant for normal daily driving, but powered by electricity instead of gas. The podcast mentions it as an EV that stands out.
A “square dash” means the dashboard looks boxy and angular, not sleek or rounded. The host is saying the interior design doesn’t look as premium as it should.
Chevy S-10 is a pickup truck model that’s generally associated with a simpler, more affordable interior look. The host is saying the Ferrari’s interior styling reminds them of that kind of budget vibe.
Quarter panels are the body panels on the sides of the car near the rear wheels. If they need “trim work,” it usually means fixing the shape and finishing after some damage or repainting.
Polishing is like buffing the surface to make it look smoother and shinier. On paint and headlight lenses, it can remove haze and make everything look newer.
“Ellipsoid style” describes a headlight design that helps focus the light in a more controlled way. It can look more modern and usually helps the beam pattern be clearer.
They’re talking about matching paint on a Mini Cooper. When parts are repainted, the goal is to get the same color so the car doesn’t look like the hood and fenders were done at different times.
Forged wheels are wheels made from metal that’s pressed into shape, not poured. They’re usually higher quality, and that can make refinishing them cost more than cheaper wheels.
Refinishing is when you restore an item’s surface by cleaning it up and redoing the finish. For wheels, that usually means making them look new again with fresh coating.
Masking is covering parts you don’t want painted, using tape or protective material. It helps keep the paint lines clean and prevents overspray. More masking usually means the job is more careful (and often more expensive).
This is the basic painting process: primer first, then the actual color paint. Primer helps the paint stick and last longer. On wheels, doing it right matters because they get hit with dirt, road debris, and weather.
“OEM wheels” means the wheels that came with the car from the manufacturer (or exact replacements). People like them because they fit correctly and match the original look. The host is talking about buying wheels that are already in good shape so you don’t have to redo them.
“Refinished poorly” means the wheel was restored, but the job wasn’t done well. That can show up as uneven paint, bad clear coat, or finish that chips quickly. The host is basically saying you might pay less, but the result may be disappointing when you see it in person.
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style 24
“Style 24” is the name of a specific wheel design pattern. Different designs can come in different sizes, so the name helps you make sure you’re comparing the same wheel. The host is checking the listing details to estimate what a replacement might cost.
“Staggered” means the wheels are set up differently front to rear—usually wider in the back. People do this for better tire grip and fitment. It also changes what replacement wheels you need to buy.
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is a small vehicle that mixes the look of an SUV with a pickup-style bed. It’s meant to carry things like a truck, but still drive like a crossover. The podcast compares its feel to an older “Santa Cruz” idea from the late 1980s.
The Toyota Tundra is a large pickup truck with a bed for carrying things. It’s meant for practical tasks like hauling and transporting items. The podcast mentions that the bed worked well for what they were doing.
The Toyota Camry is a very common, everyday family sedan. Here it’s mentioned because it shows up a lot in rideshare fleets, so it doesn’t make for exciting spotting.
Wipers are what clear rain and grime off your windshield. The host is basically saying they’re putting in new wipers as part of getting the car sorted.
A “project car” is a vehicle you plan to modify, repair, or restore over time, often because it’s incomplete, neglected, or needs upgrades. The hosts are weighing two approaches: starting with the best “clean” example versus buying a more broken one and doing the work yourself.
Brake calipers are the parts that hold the brake pads and press them onto the brake disc. If someone changed the calipers, you can’t always use the same brake pads as before.
Brake pads are the parts that squeeze against the spinning brake disc to slow the car. If the brake calipers were swapped, you often need different pads to match that caliper.
This is about having proof of what modifications were done to the car. If you have records, it’s easier to buy the right parts later and harder to get stuck guessing what was installed.
The Porsche 914 is a classic sports car with the engine mounted toward the middle of the car. It’s popular with people who like older cars and projects. The podcast talks about a possible build that would add a bigger “six-cylinder” engine.
“Unmolested” basically means the car is as original as possible and hasn’t been heavily changed. Enthusiasts like this because it gives you a clean starting point for future work.
An engine swap means putting a different engine into a car than it originally came with. People do it to change how the car drives, but it can be complicated and may need to meet local rules.
“CARB legal” means the car meets California’s emissions rules. If you swap an engine, it has to be done in a way that controls pollution properly, or it won’t pass inspection.
Suspension refers to the system of links, springs, and dampers that controls ride height, wheel movement, and how the tires stay in contact with the road. The segment frames suspension work as a “pain in the ass,” implying it can be time-consuming to diagnose, fit, or upgrade correctly.
The Ford Mustang is a classic American sports car. Fans sometimes care about specific model years because the car can be slightly different from one year to the next.
The Chevrolet Camaro is a famous American muscle car. People sometimes talk about “in-between” years because the car can have a mix of old and new features.
The Porsche 944 is a Porsche sports car with a front engine and a balanced feel. Enthusiasts often like specific years because they can have different upgrades or quirks.
The Toyota Supra is a sports car made by Toyota. It’s known for being quick and for having a big fan base. The podcast brings it up as one of the cars people recognize.
The Porsche 928 is a V8-powered Porsche grand tourer. People like it because it feels more like a fast cruiser than a track-focused car, and different years added different upgrades.
Dual overhead cam means the engine has two camshafts up in the head that control the valves. It’s a design that can help the engine breathe better and make more power.
The BMW E30 is a classic 3 Series that car people love for how it drives and how easy it is to modify. This one is an older-style 1989 E30 with some features missing (like ABS), which changes how it behaves.
This is talking about a specific generation of the Porsche 911 called the 996. People care about early 996s because Porsche changed details over time, and that can make some versions more desirable.
This is about how the gas pedal controls the engine’s throttle. “By wire” means sensors and electronics control it instead of a physical cable, and some people think cable control feels more direct.
“Nannies” is slang for safety/traction systems that step in and limit how aggressively the car can be driven. Less “nanny” behavior can make the car feel more like a pure driver’s car.
This means the gas pedal moves the throttle using a physical cable. It’s a more direct mechanical connection than electronic control, and some drivers prefer that feel.
The McLaren F1 is a famous, very special supercar. It’s known for being lightweight and having a unique interior layout, and the hosts are joking about using one for a rally.
Here, “wing” means a big rear spoiler. It’s there to push the car’s rear down onto the road so it feels more stable at speed.
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skinniest tires
“Skinniest tires” refers to using a narrower tire width than typical for the wheel size. Narrow tires can change grip and steering feel—sometimes used for a particular look or to tune how the car behaves.
“Slammed” means the car is lowered a lot so it sits very close to the ground. People do it for looks, but it can make the ride harsher and harder to drive over bumps.
A “full rally” means the car finished the whole rally event. Rally driving is rough and stressful on the car, so finishing without big repairs is a good sign.
“Stanced” means the car is lowered a lot for a specific look. It usually sacrifices comfort and can make daily driving harder because the suspension and tires sit very close to the body.
Stretch tires are when the tire is mounted so the sidewall looks pulled tight over the wheel. It can look cool, but it can also make the tire easier to damage and less forgiving on rough roads.
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custom olyn setup
This sounds like a custom suspension setup made specifically for that car. Instead of using a generic lowering kit, they’re building parts and tuning it for rally/race driving.
A rust hole in the floorboard means the metal underneath has corroded all the way through. That’s a big deal because it can affect safety and it usually means the car needs more than just cosmetic repair.
“Full race rally car” means turning a normal car into one meant to handle rally driving. That usually involves stripping out extra stuff and upgrading parts so it can take bumps and hard use.
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M20
M20 is a BMW engine family name. When people talk about “M20” in a project-car context, they mean swapping or using that specific type of engine. It’s basically choosing which BMW engine to build around.
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S50
S50 is a BMW engine family that’s known for being a stronger, more performance-oriented option. In this segment, they’re comparing engine choices and saying S50 is the one they’d pick to make the car come out right. It’s about choosing the engine that makes the whole build better.
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M24
M24 is another BMW engine family name. Here, it’s mentioned as one of the possible engines you could choose for a swap. The point is picking the engine that best matches the build goals.
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b30
“B30” is a nickname people use for a specific BMW engine build. It usually means they’re combining parts to end up with a bigger/stronger inline-six setup. Here, they’re saying that’s the kind of final project they want.
The BMW E30 M3 is an older BMW performance model that became a legend with car fans. People often assume it’s fast just because of the name, but the speaker is saying it can also be surprising in how it looks and how it “presents” itself.
“Narrowbody” means the car’s fenders and wheel area are narrower than on a wider-body version. It’s mostly a look/fitment difference, and it can be tied to certain racing-style setups.
They talk about negotiating to buy a car, including what to do when the seller’s asking price feels too high. It’s more about strategy and persistence than wrenching.
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s14 motor
“S14 motor” means a specific Nissan engine family. They’re saying it’s expensive and a lot of work to pull that engine out of a car, even if the car is already disassembled.
A “K24 swap” means putting a Honda K24 engine into a different car. People do it because that engine is popular, easy to work on, and can be made to run really well.
The Honda Fit EV is an electric version of the Honda Fit, which is a small hatchback. It’s powered by a battery instead of a gas engine. The podcast is basically asking what category it fits into.
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icono box
They’re using “icono box” as a nickname for a regular, common car that becomes famous or iconic. The idea is that it’s not a rare exotic—it’s a normal model that people really connect with.
The Toyota Corolla is a small, everyday car made by Toyota. People often choose it because it’s practical and easy to live with. The podcast specifically mentions the idea of a Corolla wagon version.
The Honda Civic is a very popular everyday compact car that’s been around for decades. Here they’re basically asking if it counts as a “classic” kind of car that people love, even though it’s not a rare specialty model.
The Toyota RAV4 is a small SUV. This part is about the first generation, which people often like because it looks cool and feels more straightforward than newer ones.
The Volkswagen Rabbit is a compact car model made by Volkswagen. In the podcast, it’s mentioned because someone got another Rabbit pickup-style project. The speaker also talks about a specific engine setup, but the main point is the Rabbit name.
Torque steer is when a front-wheel-drive car tries to steer by itself when you accelerate hard. It can feel like the steering wheel is getting tugged to one side because the two front wheels aren’t being pushed equally.
An oil change is when you replace the engine oil (and usually the filter). It helps keep the engine clean, and in this case they’re also using it to check for signs of damage.
Rod bearings are small bearing surfaces inside the engine that help the crankshaft move smoothly. If they start failing, the engine can get badly damaged, so seeing bearing material in the oil is a big red flag.
The valvetrain is the engine’s valve system—parts that open and close the valves at the right times. Spinning the engine very fast can stress those parts, so they’re a common place for problems when you push RPM.
Redline is the top RPM limit the engine is designed to safely reach. Revving near or past it can increase wear and risk damage, especially to the engine’s internal parts.
Cams are parts inside the engine that control when the valves open and close. If you change the cams, the engine’s timing and power delivery can change—especially at higher RPM.
The oil filter catches dirt and metal bits from the oil. If you cut it open and see metal flakes, it can be a clue that something inside the engine is wearing out.
Oil analysis is when you test used engine oil to see if it contains metal wear particles or other signs of trouble. It can catch problems early. The host mentions doing a quick DIY check too, but a lab test would be the more reliable way to confirm what’s happening.
Metal flakes are tiny bits of metal that get into the oil when parts inside the engine start wearing. The amount and how big the flakes are can help estimate how serious the wear is. In the episode, the host thinks the flakes point to early bearing wear even though the engine sounds normal.
Copper-colored metal bits in the oil can be a sign that something inside the engine—often a bearing—has started wearing out. Bearings can be made with copper layers, and when those layers get damaged you may see copper flakes. It’s not a guarantee by itself, but it’s a useful warning sign.
Non-magnetic flakes mean a magnet doesn’t pull the metal bits out of the oil. That can help tell what kind of metal wear you’re seeing. In this case, it supports the idea that the flakes are coming from a copper-based bearing material.
The oil pan is the part at the bottom of the engine that holds the oil. If someone suspects serious engine wear like bearing problems, they may need to remove it to inspect what’s going on inside. It’s usually a bigger job than just changing the oil.
The oil pump moves oil around the engine and keeps it under pressure so parts stay lubricated. If the pump has to come out for an inspection, it usually means the job is getting into the engine’s lower internals. Good oil flow is essential to keep bearings from wearing out.
Cylinders are the inside walls of the engine where the pistons travel. If they’re damaged, you can often see it by inspecting the bore. Checking them helps make sure the metal flakes aren’t coming from something else besides the rod bearings.
A scope is basically a tiny camera you can insert to look inside the engine. Instead of tearing everything apart right away, you can check for damage like scoring. That helps confirm what’s actually failing before you spend big money on repairs.
A camper shell is the hard box that sits over the back of a pickup bed. Because it adds weight, it can make the truck’s rear suspension feel different, especially when you’re carrying more stuff.
A leaf spring is the spring that helps your truck ride smoothly. If it’s worn out or not strong enough, the rear can feel loose or sag when you’re carrying a heavy load.
“Sloppy in the rear” means the back of the truck feels loose or unsettled. That often happens when the suspension parts are worn or not set up for the kind of weight you’re hauling.
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sloppy top
“Sloppy top” in this context appears to refer to the truck’s rear-end movement and how it feels when the suspension is loaded. The speaker links it to the rear spring/shock setup, implying the suspension isn’t controlling motion well.
The Nissan Leaf is an electric car made by Nissan. It’s meant for regular driving, like commuting and errands. The podcast mentions “leaf” in a way that sounds like a replacement part, not just the car model name.
Bilstein makes shocks for the suspension. If the shocks are worn out, the truck can feel wobbly or bouncy—especially when you’re carrying a heavy load.
The Dodge Charger is a car made by Dodge that’s built for performance and a bold look. In the podcast, the speaker complains about something on the front of Chargers. That suggests there’s a particular feature or part they don’t like.
The Dodge Challenger is a performance car made by Dodge. The podcast mentions it alongside the Charger and complains about something on the front of these cars. That means the speaker doesn’t like a specific front-end feature or part.
The Nissan Note is a small car made by Nissan. The podcast mentions it briefly while talking about which brands or models are being considered. There aren’t details in the transcript about performance or reliability—just the name in a list.
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Welcome to driving well awesome.
My name is Warren.
I'm Lane.
And I'm Mark.
We are back again.
Can we just start?
This is just right off the cuff guys.
There's no off the cuff.
No pre pod banter here about what I'm about to say next Ferrari Luce.
Yep.
FT FTW.
I'm going to go on a limb here.
I'm going to go way out on a limb and say it seems like a missed opportunity.
Wait a missed opportunity or a missed step.
Missed opportunity.
Oh, okay.
Clean slate Ferrari.
Yeah.
You can do anything you want.
Yeah.
You and and and you start with like a skateboard right skateboard.
You don't need like yeah you don't need anything doors whatever you can do whatever
you want.
You can do whatever you want did and that's what they put out.
Yeah.
Hold on a second.
My computer is going to restart because it needs a system update and my computer is going
to restart very soon.
That's fun.
Well, if you want to restart, we can keep chatting and then you can pile on your your
is it Luce for sure I think I think it's interesting to see how long
this goes.
Let's see.
It says that it's basically going to automatically restart very soon save any documents you
have open now.
So we'll just see how long this nice.
Yes.
So it is it is a wild thing.
I think I've seen two people say something positive out of thousands of comments.
Yeah.
And I genuinely think that it doesn't matter because this is going to be a separate product
targeting your Tyler the creators your Kim Kardashian's your all of those people and
you're named you a party of five those people.
I think it's that world of people who are just like it's irrelevant right, but I get
I totally hear you're saying the mark their their target demo is different than a classic
Ferrari demo, but they can already buy an EQS and a Lucid and why not make it something
exciting and and at least like performance forward it and I know it's going to have a
thousand horsepower and all that stuff, but shouldn't they be making a Tesla Roadster
competitor or a Panamera yeah, I would say more Panamera.
I shouldn't they make it sexy. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, it's avant guard.
I'm guessing right. That's like sort of like it's it looks like like like an orthopedic
shoe. There's certain parts of it where I'm like, okay, I see what they were trying to
do, but then you take a step back and it's land and how how is the rear dude. It looks
like a 935. The way it's like a car inside of a car, but then it just looks like a fiero
inside of another. You know, it's like a knockoff Ferrari F 40 or something
like a incredibly bland. There's nothing funny. Nothing interesting really about it.
The interior does not bother me at all. I'm like, sure. Yeah, go iPhone and you know,
Apple interior. Yeah, it's an electric car. Okay, that makes sense. It's the lesson Ferrari
bits to it. But man, that overall shape and and vehicle type is so bland and boring that
I don't know. I don't know what to say. I was just having coffee with Chris Baca and
he was like, I kind of like it for like, but but he was like, but I like it like as a if
it was like a Kia or a Honda. Yeah, sure. For like 30,000 bucks and I'm like, yeah,
but it's the $30,000 $40,000 like consumer product for sure for a brand like that and
they had hamsters in the advertisement be sick. Absolutely. And that would be cool,
but not a Ferrari at $640,000. Dude, that's insane. Hang on one second. I gotta take
this call. Now you're all by yourself. Wow, dude. Yeah. And what are the vents on the
side art ski? Oh, art's not even there either. It's just me. Oh, geez. Okay. I'm so I'm
talking about this thing. Yeah, I just think it's a little too upright, not like sporty
enough. I don't really understand. I just don't understand Ferrari. I don't understand
the thinking behind it, but but also we were talking about it. It's probably going to be
the best selling Ferrari ever and they're going to because make every
customer of every Ferrari by one of these cars. Right. So every customer is going to
come in number comparatively, but it's, but it's still going to be the best selling Ferrari
because they're going to be like, if you want, you want this Ferrari, you have to buy this,
you have to buy the electric one. Yeah, I get what you're saying, but it's a hard sell.
Right. This is this is not an entry level Ferrari. $640,000 is like that's like top
dog, dude. That is so strange too to have it priced that way. I mean, you would think
it'd be the cheapest Ferrari. Yes. Yeah. The whole thing is just so baffling. You would
think it would be $200,000, right? Something like that. Like I just expected it to look
like a Ferrari. Even the Purro Sangui is much more Ferrari. For sure. And I kind of pictured
it being a Panamera size Purro Sangui, like low, sleek, modern and but have some flair
to it, have something going on. But yeah, it's probably like the most bummer of a car
that's come out since the Cybertruck. It's pretty crazy. At least the Cybertruck is trying
something as much as we all hate it and it's annoying, but at least they were like, we're
going to do something that nobody's ever done. Like this is a crazy, weird idea. I know it
almost makes you like the Cybertruck. Yeah, this is crazy. Dude, there's actually like
when you type in Ferrari Luce, this one Yahoo! Autos article comes out, the 2028 Ferrari Luce
were reportedly costs, whatever. And there's a rendering of what they thought it would
look like, which is a low Purro Sangui, basically a Purro Sangui that's like lower and you're
like, oh, okay, that's what you would think it would look like. And it has like the nose
piece that's kind of blacked out and stuff and a sharper front end and everything, but
still tall and everything because cars have to be taller. You know, the noses doing everything,
but like not even close to what this thing is with this weird gaping mouth and the and the
yeah, it's, it's crazy, man. It's like really bad. It's really not good. It's not bad. It's just
like it's a meh of all mehs. It is a meh of all mehs and it's like, what's the electric car
from the Bay Area? Why can't I not think of it? The big Bauhaus looking one. Why am I so dumb
right now? Rivian? No, the Bauhaus, like the big sedans and they came out of the SUV now.
Like a Lucid. Yeah, it's almost like, like why couldn't, even if it looked like a Lucid,
that would be so much better, right? Like, yeah, I think if you were going one direction with it,
you'd go full luxury and make it like a Rolls competitor with this just looks, this looks
kind of, this just looks cheap. Like, like we're like, if it was a Hyundai or something, like,
you're like, okay, that's quirky. It's kind of cool, like whatever. It's like,
it's a cool little cheap looking thing and it kind of funky in a way and kind of meh.
Yeah. The weird thing too is that they, the first line I read, I read like a non bias,
non hater articles like Wall Street Journal, you know, review. And it was like first clean slate
Ferrari and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, man, that's what you went with. You had the, you had the
opportunity to do anything. I mean, it could have been a killer like sport wagon or a, you know,
traditional sedan or something like harken back to like the 412s or something cool. Like
sort of like what Hyundai did with the EV6 or EV6. Yeah. And just nothing like not even one part
of it is really interesting. Yeah. It is very blah. Even, even the interior, I think it's
like that big square dash. I know. The interior is more forgiving, but
it's very Chevy S 10 or something, you know, like the 80s kind of. I'd like to think that
Ferrari does nail interior materials in many ways. So I'd like to think that
it's high quality, but it doesn't look like high quality. Yeah. So, okay. But of a bummer,
it is lost. We lost art. He might pop back on here once his computer is done restarting.
I'm sure this was the first sign of a restart coming for him and, you know, he never, he never
pressed like later deferred it. Not once he uses. He could use his phone. That's what I use.
Oh, that's a good call. Actually, if he's slow to get back,
I'll text him that. But in the meantime, how, how is your long weekend? We're on the, the
the back end of the Memorial Day weekend here. Well, I'll start off by saying I just got back
from seeing your car, Warren. Oh, did we want to reveal it? I mean, I don't know. Did you see it
yet? I just saw when I was with you. So when I was getting painted and then I left your cars,
your cars all back together. Hey, how about that? You're his, you know, they I told them that so
for the listeners, I'm getting the bumpers painted and the side skirts or they were painted. I guess
side skirts, bumpers, mirrors and mirrors and then a little bit of trim work on one of the
quarter panels. But I said, I'm going to be out of town. I'm going to be off the grid
with no connection. But if any quick decisions are made, ask Lane because I figured you would have
the, the right eye for it or at least be like, don't do that or whatever. But yeah, I'm excited
to see it. It's a, it's definitely kind of one of those things where I don't know quite what to
expect, but are you going to give me a thumbs up or thumbs down? It looks, I mean, it's not like
clean right now. It's like rolling, you know, it's like dirty right now, but it looks so fucking
good. Nice. Also, I don't know if you're, they, they also cleaned up the headlights. Oh yeah. That
was the other thing that we're going to clear them there. They painted them. Yeah, I like polish
them and painted them. It looks so much like that, like that pops, right? So transformative for that
car. Well, it's funny. I was talking to art about replacement headlights, which I was going to do,
but it changes to the newer ellipsoid style instead of the classic, just like two bulbs,
yeah, which is not a big deal and like I wanted that glass look, but this is kind of best of
both worlds. It's like the, what should be on the car and super clear, so that's exciting too. Yeah,
yeah, dude, it no, it looks, I mean, I walked up and yeah, it's like the match is really good. It's
like, you know, it's all that pastel yellow, like yeah, it looks killer. So we're looking at paint
cards. He had like, you know, five paint cards that all look basically identical, you know, they're
very, very, very close. And the car is, you know, like the hood is a different color than the fenders
just from age, like paint, you know, has been worn over time. Yeah. And so we were holding it up and
it ended up being a BMW paint code that was specific to Mini Cooper, the new minis, like in
2001 or whatever the first ones were. So that was that yellow, which you've probably seen those
first gen minis around in a Dakar looking yellow. So that's what we went with. It was like a good
blend between the fender and the bumper. And then the hood is like much more pale when you're holding
the cards up, but it's, it's hard, hard to match. Are you back with us? I'm back with us. He's back,
baby. You're recording properly. You didn't stop your recording. Just let it roll, man. Put it
myself on mute like a professional and waited until the computer got back up. It's like we actually
know what we're doing right there. Look at this guy here. Yeah, it looks really good. I mean,
it sounds like your car is going to look hella fresh as the kids say, or they used to say. I
don't know if that's still a thing. I know. I wonder if I just need to just tell them about the
wheels. Yeah, you should. I told Nick, I told Nick about our conversation. He's like, yeah, we could
have them done in like two days. Okay, we're going to do that. That's awesome. And I got to get the
seat. I got to get my driver's seat over to Art Sky, who did his e30 interior, which looks awesome.
You might even come over to the shop, too, if you give him a heads up. If he has other gigs. So
I just wanted to say that that that was a perfect opportunity for a lane call lane. You shouldn't
have waited for the wheels. You should have just said, yeah, do his wheels because oh yeah. I know,
dude. What do you think it's like refinishing a set of forged wheels cost these days? I really
don't know. I have no idea. Like is it is it 200 dollars a wheel? Is it a hundred dollars
a wheel? What are we? I would think it's in that two to 250 range. Art, any comments?
That would be my guess as well. But yours are because you have the I can't remember exactly.
They're not fully painted, right? They're like exposed like polished aluminum in some sections
and then painted in the spoke or something. Yeah, it's kind of hard to tell. Like the bucket or the
barrel is painted. It's got like a clear on it. I don't know. Yeah, those are probably
they require a little bit more masking and a little more detail work, I think, right? Whereas
traditionally it's just like clean it up any filler needed and then you paint it, you know,
prime and paint or as yours might require some more detail work. I think based on what I recall,
yeah, it's like polished and then cleared, right? And then you have some paint on them. The ones on
the just for the folks out there. I can't remember the code for your wheel. But if you look at an
E 36 m three GT, the green one that has the same wheels, but those are painted and yours are yours.
I think are like the right the optional life. And then, you know, you get into you play this game
with like, well, a fresh set of wheels to buy them is like three to 400 dollars a wheel.
Oh, those exact ones. Whoa. Well, no, no, I don't know if they're the exact same ones because
they did make a few versions of them. So, but then you got to find them and ship them and a
lot. So, you know, like they're coming back. So probably not forged, right? That's probably not
the good, the good goods are the ones that we talked about last podcast, the DS ones or whatever.
Are those forged? I can't remember. But I was gonna have eBay open right now. And that's exactly
what I was. I was just going to go look at pricing because if you're like, yeah, 350 bucks for really
clean OEM wheels that don't require any work. And then yeah, right. So that's an opportunity chances
are they'll either have been finished, refinished poorly. The ones that I would buy or need work,
you know, something that you would buy would be refinished poorly. Why wouldn't you buy nice ones?
Well, I'm just saying like, I can't see them. And so then I'm gonna get them in the mail and be like,
oh, dude, like this is whack. But maybe not. There's a set of those DS ones in Marina that's
been on Craigslist for like six months plus and he's just firm on the price. It's like 2000
dollars. The first set of them, which yeah. So looking at eBay real quick, there is a it's
called a style 24 the wheels that you have. This is for one front, which is a seven and a half.
And yours are staggered. Guess how much they're asking for one. It looks really mint. It must
have been a spare because it doesn't look like it's ever been driven on. So this is just one
single wheel as a pristine single front wheel, not the rear, which is wider. Same exact design
4000 bucks, 4070700 for a single front.
Yeah, and that's a front. The rear is a wider. So that's a thing. I also believe that in Europe
they did. They did not come staggered. So rear wheels are more rare because they produce less of
them in that stagger. So and yeah, looking at it is painted and polished. It's a multi deal.
Yeah. It's a multi deal. Multi deal. The deal is out there.
DS ones are going to be cheaper. I imagine. Oh, here we go. Here's a really clean DS one. No,
it's not. It says damaged. Yeah, they bought what they all say damaged. That's weird. There's
several that are listed here from the same owner. I don't know it's a rabbit hole, but 200 bucks for
those. But who knows interesting? Yeah, so anyways, yeah, I'm excited to see it and get back.
Yeah, it looks. It looks. It looks nice. Good, but I would definitely do it would be nice to do
the wheels because I'd like to and it's really hard for me to do. The car does look really good.
Yeah, for me to do at home would suck. Hell yeah, it sucked dude. Just like just jacking the car
up and taking them off and stuff like that. It's like annoying. Yeah, yeah, totally. So
how was it? How was Seabright Motors? Dude, Seabright Motors was a vibe, bro. Oh,
God, I don't know what's happening in the lane right now. He's getting it. Actually, I would say
like if you if you could use that term, that would be the time to use it or like a movie.
Oh, man. It was it was very. It felt like I think I put it in the past. It felt like it did feel
like a Santa Cruz from like 1987 or something. Yeah, all the pictures you like reference the
Lost Boys opening scene, but it's like that definitely looked like it. Dude, some hot rods,
some 80s Porsches, punk music. Yeah, it was just very. I think just the whole that whole scene,
you know, days market hasn't changed in 50 in 40 years. It looks exactly the same as it always
has. It's kind of a little rundown, you know, that parking lot area and just kind of like
not a lot of organization there. It's just kind of like park where you will
street corner scene, having a throwing up a tent, having a couple of punk bands play
this time. We had two punk bands play and and just kind of like people roaming around
grab food, just kind of like yeah, it was great. Dude, it was it was really fun. It was a good
time, dude, and good. Hang for sure went to try to go grab a sandwich at Seabright Seabright
Deli. There was a line about 40 people deep, so didn't go there. So I went to Tremonti,
had a nice little pizza. Very nice. That was good. Went there with Mark Garcia and Charles and
Tom. Yeah, and then yeah, had some pizza there and then there was. Yeah, I was just going off,
dude. It was really good. Popping off, dude, 12 to three,
nice little quick little, you know, nice. Yeah, that's great though. It was fun. Good to hear.
That's right. And I bet it's also very much like Santa Cruz in the 80s because I'm sure you had to
do a ton of permitting. You had a notified the local police department and then you had to get
a street closure permit and then oh wait a minute, you have this many people gathering,
you need a special people gathering permit. Cars are moving in a party. Yeah, well that's the
thing. No permits required for anything. And yeah, because they're kind of turning a blind
eye towards all that stuff because of the whole Seabright because this whole neighborhood needs
a little influx of traffic, you know, for the businesses. So they're kind of turning a blind
eye towards all that stuff. So we're kind of allowed to do whatever we want in a way.
Um, so yeah, it's very much not that. So it's just like a very DIY, like grassroots, very 80s
in that respect, in that regard, too. And then, uh, yeah, there was like a motorcycle cop
cruise by at one point and he just like gave a peace sign as he drove by, you know,
that's what you want. That's what you're looking for fans flying. Yeah, it's sick, dude.
What's up with John Junction though? Is that, is that someone else by it or what's the status
of that? So that, that was actually the down, that's the one down on river street.
Yeah, the river street location, there has been construction and some other stuff.
And he was basically going to close that one of three locations and then someone jumped in and
said, we'll buy it. And I think they're just going to like keep it open. I don't know if they're
going to rename it. I don't really understand. I think they're going to keep all like the staff
and just be a coffee shop still and see what happens. But yeah, then I don't know if I don't
rumor has it. Maybe this one's for, I don't know, maybe for sale. I don't know. It's a rough
spot because once the brewery went down, it really feels like kind of on its own and for sure.
But if the brewery came back, especially with like a big name, brewery, yeah, be
beard, it would go off. So which by the way, if any of those, any of the big breweries in
Santa Cruz like posted up there, it'd be so sick. Dude, it's such a better location than,
then what's our names down there with, you know, Sante, Sante. If Sante was there, it'd be so much
better. Are we talking about Sante right now? You can bring that up. By the way,
rolled up in a new, rolled up in a new T bird. Oh, dang, dude. And he matched this out. He matched
it. He was as a white T bird, like more sub dude and he was like of more sub dude, dude.
Oh, dude, dude. Yeah, and I was like calm sub dude. Well, I was like, what's a more sub
dude, Sante? Oh, it's Dante. Yeah, somewhere between sub dude. We were sub dude. I think we
were all all over the place. Well, I mean, you were here laying. Yeah, where are you? I was up
in the the forest, the Stanislaus forest out by Yosemite for a little unplugging. I think I
teased it on the last podcast and that was great. Did you like stand in the in the creek for a while
and a lot of hippoing we call it in the creek or just kind of like splash some water once
in a while and endure as long as you can. It was way warmer. Well, I shouldn't say way warmer. It
was warmer and perfect weather up there overall. So we had a good time. The bed in the tundra
worked well and then we went just Sarah, Andrew and I took a little day day trip and drove a
bunch of dirt roads that I had seen on the map. And the first one I was all excited about because
it goes pretty deep into Yosemite, but it's sort of like its own little valley and it was closed.
It said there was a fence and just said Yosemite National Park boundary fee required, but there's
nobody there. It's just locked and no fee to be given to keep going. So that was out. But then
we went on a different road for a while, a logging road and it dead ended with a huge tree that had
fallen in the road. But there's this cool like spring that someone, I think it was for livestock
back in the day, but it was like ancient, kind of like almost like a small swimming pool made a
concrete that a pipe was feeding like a constant spring fed pool. And then that would like overflow
into the meadow. And that was just out there just doing its thing, dude. Just doing its thing.
That sounds rad. It's kind of cool. And it was like mossy and stuff. But as I drove away, I'm like,
man, I wonder if you could like clean that up and get all, you know, loose out there.
I mean, yeah, you guys didn't go in it. No, no, it was pretty like swampy, but it was just,
you know, like moss on the top of the water, but if it's moving, I mean, it was moving. Yeah,
move some of the moss and it started pouring out. It was like crystal clear water. It's
pretty cool. It sounds like a perfect start to a Friday the 13 movie is out there looking
or like a, or like a cheap, like super cheap porn, you know, a bunch of girls
and the pool, huh? You know, shot on shot on iPhone. That's what I mean.
Anyways, that was fun, fun camping, great times out there. And then our dude, a surprise Chicago
trip, a surprise Chicago trip. Yeah. Jamie was working there this past week into the weekend.
And, um, yeah, we decided, you know what, like we have some points. It's not going to be that
expensive. We'll just fly out there with the kids. So I flew out there and, um, you know,
Jamie already had a hotel out there and everything. So it worked out great. It was awesome. The
weather was really, really nice. It was like low fifties. So like, you know, you just layer,
but it was crisp and no, no rain and, um, did all the touristy stuff. Basically, I was, I was
thinking to myself, because I've been to Chicago made three or four times, but I've always been
for work, like in and out, like just do stuff and kind of do a steakhouse or whatever. And maybe a
day of chilling. Yeah. And quick, usually not a lot of exploring. Um, but I was thinking as I was
going through it, like it was like, basically what people, when I lived in San Francisco and then
people would tell me, Oh yeah, I'm in town. I'm going to do Fisherman's War from Gerardilly
Square and Union Square. And then we're going to go to Alcatraz and the Golden Gate Bridge. And
I'm like, this is what we're doing right now with children. Like we're doing the all that loop,
but the Chicago version, right? And which is great for the family. And it's like,
you know, it's safe. It's super clean. It's, you know, we did the aquarium. We did the zoo. We
did. I saw, actually saw that you went to a stickball game, which is stickball game. I
was trying to figure it out. Well, I was like Googling it as I was watching it. And, but, um,
Google search. Unfortunately, the cubbies did not win. Uh, the cubbies, the cubbies, but I did
have, uh, you know, have myself, of course, a red hot. You got to have a dog there while you're at
it. And, um, dude, that stadium is so rad, but where it is situated, it's like in that little
neighborhood. Yeah, it's rad. It's, um, yeah, it's, it's a cool spot too. And it's, it also feels
very condensed, right? It's not like a huge like smalling stadium. It's like very vertical. Um,
and, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's cool. And yeah, it was a really nice, nice day for it. Um, again,
weather was great. And, um, on the way out, like literally as we were getting, getting
into the Uber, um, I looked up and I'm like, man, those clouds look gnarly and shurn up within 10
minutes, just full on torrential downpour standing water on the freeway. Everybody slows down to
50 miles an hour. I'm like, dude, we just missed that like that. And that's like our life with
events, right? Like it could have been yesterday while we're doing all this stuff. Um, speaking of
which, uh, I just looked at the forecast because I had it open as a tab on my, on my browser here
for camping and it's supposed to rain today through Friday. There you go. It was perfect
for the weekend. So a whole week, you would have been ruined though. It was like chance
of rain in the morning and thunder, thunder clouds in the afternoon is like, damn, dude.
Yeah. The last thing I'll say that, you know, everything was cool. You know, the food was
great. Did a bunch of cool shit. Kids loved it. Uh, easy trip, but, uh, my standout thing was
going to the Sears tower. I'm still going to call it that because as a kid, I remember
like that was like the tallest building in the world. Remember like we always, you'd
read it in social studies class or whatever. It's still so impressive seeing it from afar.
It's like so rad. And like the way it staggered and like it's, it's, it's a cool building. And
then they are, they did a good job. Um, like sort of like remodeling the base and like the first
floor. So it's, it's like modernized, right? So it's all updated and it's like this immersive
sort of like history lesson. Um, and like in like Chicago in general, but also like skyscrapers and
like the significance of the building and it's like, I'm happy to see that too because I thought,
oh shit, like with Sears kind of dying, like it's like kind of tainted, but like it's they've
sort of like obviously it has a different name now, but it's the Willis tower. That's right. It's
some company pays a million dollars a year for the naming rights, but what's you talking about?
That's all you can think about. Um, but um, yeah, or the Jeep with a Y. Um, but so yeah, I guess
it's one of those things where like it could have been the end of it and like just seemed super
morbid and shitty there, but it was it's actually really nice. Like it's it's totally something
I would recommend doing and then they have like I figure what they call it like the ledge or
something and it's like this glass cube that you can step out into, you know, like and you're
like basically it's like the hundred and third floor and you can look straight down and it was
that where they were in Ferris Bueller?
Maybe they were there in serious, serious tower or when they're like imagine he's like where
he's like I think I see my dad down there, but there wasn't. I don't think there's this tourist
attraction. I was gamma, yeah, but dude, so I also did the of course we did the architecture
river tour, which is like an essential thing. So and the we did pass by that one building,
which was very recognizable where Ferris's dad worked like it's like blue, green glass,
kind of curved building and my my my thing for or my was called favorite thing of the
the architecture tour was not even the buildings was the freaking train cantilever bridges.
They're so rad and they're all functional, but they look super rusty and old and archaic and like
and they're yeah. I remember taking pictures of that when we were there for Radwood like those
bridges specifically were so cool. They're super rad and they're all like, you know, perfectly
balanced and like they're just it's like it's this like pretty awesome feat of like basic
ass engineering that still works and it's like still in use, but looks really cool. I was digging
that a lot, but yeah, good times. 00 car shit. I'd say all around the downtown area like I was
probably like I moved around like a five mile radius like not a single interesting car like
it's like a couple new 911 turbos and the rest were all just boring gray silver white Tesla
shit. A lot of like Toyota Camry's were the most popular Uber car from our experience.
Okay, but yeah, just nothing there. I mean, I think once you get into the outskirts, you get the
stuff and I mean, we have a friend who has a collection out there, but yeah, it was it was
kind of a disappointing car spotting trip. But yeah, that's always funny. You go to big city and
like New York's good for cars. There's still some interesting weird stuff, but maybe Chicago's even
too harsh for that stuff to survive or it's maybe too sprawling too, right? Like whereas New York,
you're on Manhattan and like you're bound to see stuff. Whereas like that maybe it has a it's all
out in the suburbs and there's no reason to go into the city with that type of car. But
yeah, it was a trip. I was very surprised. Like I literally like I can't think of a single stand
out car like outside of like some ugly ass brodozer that had like all the lights and like the whole
Vegas scene like just making a bunch of noise like just wanted all the attention and there was that,
but Chicago's were the cars. Let us know exactly up in Lakewood or whatever that is Lake Forest or
something questions. Shall we dude? Yes. And then I'll and because I want people to stick around.
I got a big E 30 update for you guys. Bump, bump, bump, new and chill wipers folks. All right.
Even Shaw asked about the Ferrari luce. So we'll skip that one. But he was on the same wavelength
and then anger bird GTI getting deep into looking at project cars and wanted to know your take.
Do you prefer to start from scratch or do you like to buy another project and fix it?
I'm finding both examples and trying to see how much work I want thoughts to you.
That's a good question. Because like ideally you want to start with like the best example possible
that's unfucked with right because you know what you're getting into and it's it's a clean slate
for you to work off of. But yeah, the second best thing is finding something that has worked on by
quality shop or someone that you actually know like if it's an unknown and now you're getting
into weird stuff and and even good shops make mistakes and all that. So it's like that's where
it gets tricky. I've had like very little issues with this in the past because I have bought cars
that have been modified pretty extensively and like I just you know you see the quality of the
work or you know where it's from and like it's small stuff like you guys remember my mint green
2002 I couldn't figure out what brake pads I needed because it had different calipers and like
I I didn't have any paperwork for the calipers being replaced and I asked the guy I bought it
from and he said it was done by the previous owner. So like I literally took me a while
and eventually I took pictures and I made a post on a forum somewhere and and they're like oh yeah
those are Volvo Calipers from whatever they you know it was a known upgrade right at the time
and stuff like that. I think you get really unwieldy the more complicated the car is right
like what is exact what has been done and all that kind of stuff. Yeah I agree and it also
depends on the owner right if they're really meticulous have like documentation for all the
upgrades and they're tasteful and stuff that you would want to do anyways that's great.
But I I seem I agree like start with the nicest example and then you are the one that's going to
blow it and ruin it the way you want. Yeah I was going to say something vulgar but
same blow it. Yeah I agree. I think I think I'm trying to think like the project card that I
would like to do is still a 9146 like 914 with a six. Yeah but I feel
like I would love to find that my ideal situation is finding like the perfect un molested nine
fourteen that already has a six cylinder like placed in it but everything else is original.
It's like they already did like the one thing like it came with the engine but
but then right you're like is the engine good is it like and it's not that hard to actually put
the six in the 914 so probably not like you'd rather start with the car that's like
you'd rather start with the perfect bare bones and do everything. Yeah I mean even though that's
expensive you know but it's yeah is it we I guess in most cases it seems like it's worth the premium
right like yeah to basically ultimately you spend I think you always spend up more or sorry
spend more yourself by doing it yourself because like that is you know I mean we all know this
you can invest the shit ton of money in a car you're never going to get it back when you sell
it right so you're likely to get a discount if you buy a car that's already been swapped I think
for one detail in particular that I think I would change things for me is in California we have to
if a car is newer than 1975 and it has an engine swap or the engine's been fucked with
like that needs to be carb legal so like if I would like an engine swap like let's say I'm
looking for a 944 with a five cylinder swap if somebody's gone through the trouble of getting
it barred and carb legal that is the reason that I use this as standard is that they're so strict
that like you know it has to be done perfectly otherwise it won't pass so if it's a bar legal
whatever swap right like you're already in good shape I feel confident and comfortable that you
know it's going to be okay for the most part yeah that's a good call California is a little
different right but outside of that yeah I mean once you're getting into older cars the others
I mean you want I think I'd rather kind of do the stuff and see it done he says also his final
line there was I'm trying to see how much work I want like how much he and that's another factor
right is like if you're gonna like let's say you're gonna build a race car it's like find one
that already has a cage and has been you know prepped a bit because that's a lot of work to
yeah well I think that's that's you kind of hit the nail on the head there is like what
type of work are you trying to avoid right like it's like so maybe there's some stuff that
you can you can buy like that right it's like all right I'm building a track car not that he's doing
that but and a proper quality cage is like super shitty work that's very expensive to do and if
you can buy a car that's already been done that way and it's you know and you can tell like
that if it's done well or not and a repeatable spot that's a good point whether it be that or
suspension on a certain car that's a pain in the ass that you don't want to do but it's got
you know really good coilovers or really good shocks or whatever the hell it is totally
automotive omnivore says what is a half model your car that you dig he has some good
examples because I can't really think of any 64 and a half Mustang 70 and a half Camaro 73 and a
half 911 85 and a half 944 which I do recognize that one 86 and a half shirako 86 and a half supra
and there must be others he says anything come to mind for you guys there's 928 also
30 years is it an 86 and a half lane or is the 86 and a half which is actually a really cool
year actually yeah I don't know dude I don't care I don't really either so I'm pretty much with
you but is there I mean yeah some of those have like compelling packages or mods right that make
it worthwhile like so like the 86 and a half older body style with like the more like the bigger
motor like you know things yeah with yeah the 928 it's kind of cool but I actually like the early
engine better like the 310 horsepower one but yeah you do get the s4 kind of all the s4 brakes and
suspension and engine so the dual over the the newer dual overhead cam and all that kind of stuff
with the old body so like the sharper bumpers and all that kind of stuff which is kind of a cool year
of the 86 and a half 911 I mean 928 and then I don't know all those other ones like
64 and a half Mustang it's kind of the same as the 65 right there's no real difference there
I don't know as far as I know I thought it was just it's just when they launched it and like so at
that yeah exactly so like there's no like a 64 and a half Mustang compared to a 65 like is there
maybe there is there's probably slight nerdy Mustang differences but definitely but I don't
really care about any of those like I would love a like a fastback of either of those would be cool
I think but um yeah I don't know dude okay okay yeah do you guys yeah I just I'm just
looking at generations and in general like you know yeah I don't really nerd out on the specific
years however like my e30 is an 89 so a lot of people like that year and it's not a mid-year but
it's just small bumpers still has pop out windows no airbag mine did not have abs so it was like
had some of the good stuff from the old you know car the old version and then yeah all the nice
features of the design of the later e30s so you know what yeah I think I kind of the my 996 was my
first 996 was kind of like that actually it was a 99 right it was a 99 but it was you could say it
was a 99 and a half because I think because it had the it didn't have the orange in the runny egg
headlights it didn't have orange it had the grayed out you know like the whatever which looks good
and that came in in 99 and a half I think it was so it was kind of like a half year thing
but then 99 is also desirable because it's throttled by wire because it's not throttled
by wire it's throttled by cable and it's super lightweight and it doesn't have all these nannies
and stuff and it's yeah it's 2900 pounds and stuff so there's like something there's something
there for that car yep um yeah uh matt chewers asks if you could have any celebrity guest
driver on a dwa rally who would you want and in what car doesn't necessarily have to be a car person
that's just a celebrity period uh guest appearance if it was car based um you'd
go kendall jenner 993 oh with her pen pentax camera or whatever yeah is that her car that i saw the
other day that i posted i don't know if you guys saw i'm like it was like a pristine c4s and it
was a black c4s yeah it could have been and and i'm like dude also by the way great parking spot
pretty rad parking spot while you are kind of next to a handicap spot which is a little
nice yeah um shit uh mr bean mclaren f1 like mr bean that's a good call did he did he sell that
car no he's crashed a million times though i hear though but but he was like twice
uh you know who's a really solid car slash motorcycle guy and it would be fun to have on
the rally and just overall keanu cool cool dude uh no we wouldn't be bad but um you and migrego
oh yes yeah he's uh he gets it for sure and i think he'd be a good hang so that's my answer what
about brad pit what about brad i think it would work uh he's a cool dude car mel guy now he's a
he's a car i think he's a little maybe a little too big for his bridges is that the the energy you
want yeah be small bridges you know what i just i just learned that heidi's grandma grew up in that
house what that crazy house on the cliff she grew so she yeah so they were like kind of the help
oh yeah they were like the you know like her dad was like the kind of like the whatever
like the maintenance on the property and so her so yeah they live in a side house on that property
wow so she so she grew up in the house and like whatever she was she just died last year so she
was and she was like almost 100 so she grew up there wow whatever and the you know crazy yeah
that's wild yeah did you guys happen to see this is a little tangent here for your answer but did
you happen to see the um well there's two horrible stories in the news one was about the yosemite
traffic and just absolute mayhem because they don't have reservations this year for some odd reason
and so it was just terrible like an hour to get into the park and all this stuff and then
big sir bixby bridge what was an absolute zoo oh it took people stopping on it people getting
out of their cars and taking selfies on the bridge it was absolute mayhem i'll send you a post
that somebody sent me just depressing as all hell like i don't even know what to say we won't get
into it here but i have seen those pictures of i have seen videos of people getting like ticketed
they need or stopping and like taking photo you know like yeah they need to have weekends like
friday saturday sunday they probably need someone their 12 hours to basically yeah like
yellow people and at the edge of the bridge to like to give tickets and show presents have
lights on kind of thing just keep it moving right you got the little like keep it moving this is a
highway and imagine if you live out there and there's a emergency or there's a fire or something
like no one's getting through you're stuck crazy dude i'm not i'm not that i'm not really a celebrity
whore i don't i feel like celebrity thing would be kind of like it would throw off the vibe dude
it would throw in most cases i i wouldn't i don't think i'd wish for like i'm trying to think of
someone that wouldn't ruin the rally really when like someone like matt comes on that and there's
people that don't know him yeah even that right or jason or something it's like i got one yeah
nick cage oh my god oh god be horrible he'd be rad he'd be a total weirdo
he's probably you wild cars in his day yeah for sure i'd be a void i'd like avoid him the whole
time love to hang out of indiesel no no thanks family is family dude that's your boy no thanks
you'd have to pack carry on coronas everywhere you went dude i got a
sending as a picture i took it yesterday of a it was a like an early 2000 civic
like not a one that was popularly modified the one right after the one that chris has
and it had probably the biggest wing i've ever seen on a car that wasn't like a gt three r s race
like probably 18s with the skinniest tires slammed blue tenzo are bucket seats like the
shittiest like those with the black you know how they have like they're blue but then they have the
black like the corbeau style yeah the guy was living it man just full on early 2000s fast and
furious uh tuna no cross license plate frame and i'm like your boy i'm going to retire my license
frame that's your people bro man if you had a show that was just dudes with those license plate
frames dude pretty sweet actually um but yeah yeah he was definitely retire that play them
yeah retiring that plate bobby read with the cars says now that arts e 30 has successfully
completed a full rally is that your first full rally or oh i guess like without a major repair
there was three yet there is my third one but yeah the others were major repairs along the
way yeah but completed the rally both times but yeah major repairs along the way now that
artsy 30 has successfully completed a full rally what's the over under on the number of months
until he sells it angry bird gti says yes dude it's all about those offers man get those offers
coming in here oh offer get those we gotta the phones are lighting up right now we got
from all over telephone i did not operate expect that to be arts response i
thought he was in too deep no i'm in too deep for sure he's joking he's joking i'm deep as ice um
oh i know we can't say i see these days i forgot but um dude so you know it's i'm in i'm in a in a
weird state of mind man with the car because it's the car is awesome it's it's everything i wanted
it to be it's fantastic and it just as you guys said yeah i built a specific thing i'm way too
deep into it i'm selling it what am i going to get 20 grand maybe i have no idea what the market
is for this what that doesn't do anything in terms of rolling it into another car right so
i've talked about this since the beginning and like i did it to this car because it's the car i
had right it was there and you know like it was like let's go through the motions right and and i
did it but i've always wanted to do this to any 30m3 because of like i think it pisses everybody
off it's also like a way better version of the s14 and you get the looks and like that car looks
so fucking cool like it's like one of the icons right and and we know having driven a ton of them
and like own them and all that stuff that they're pretty underwhelming stock like you have to be
driving them like nine to ten tenths to like really enjoy them like otherwise like that's 14
around town at least the first one right like the us spec not an evo or sport evo um is very kind of
underwhelming and expensive to maintain and like not a lot of you know uh juice out of that squeeze
if you will so like i i'm i'm starting to hit a ruben again and then oh yeah it's like dog he's
so a friend of mine has an e30 m3 that was formerly owned by brad beardo first and who sold
it to uh mark arsonal at illist and then uh buddy ruben bought it um and when i mentioned those two
names for a mild name drop just because it's a you know kind of a known car but also because it was
slammed and stanced and so because of you know where it came from so cosmetically like you know
really nice salmon silver paint job you know like very clean engine like you know well maintained
but slammed on like shitty coilovers stretch tires the whole thing and so
he ordered like this like super rad tarmac rally oh like custom olyn setup for the car like custom
built uh you know a suspension for the car uh with a lot of additional suspension components
and at his house he has a lift and and so he put it on the lift took all the suspension off
and supposedly was going to replace everything but then in that process discovered a little
rust hole in the floorboard and this was 582017 or 2016 yeah and
then let me just stop you right there because in his process of discovering this rust he took the
entire interior out because he was going to go full race rally car and i came along and was like
well i have an e30 and that's all leather m3 interior yep and he's like take it so i went up
and in at his house where the car was still on the rack for 40 years i took all the leather
interior so now the car has no interior either it's all race or you know was going to be something
but so yeah but guess what i have an interior see so like so what you do you do right so what
does that look like though it's like so i started to go through the motions right of like okay
i buy it and it's piece it's totally in pieces right now it's like a shell with an engine in it
um and you put suspension on it you ship it over to b-line or something and then i send my my car
and then both of them get kind of you make one car out of both but then like but then your car
yeah yeah or the i think ideally with time you because it's a 325 is it's a pretty clean car
it's got the euro bumpers it's got all this stuff right that's true so it's almost like all right
just go back go to the m20 get an m24 get an s50 whatever s50 that's a good call yeah and then
just make it a really killer b30 but that's where i'm at it's like i don't necessarily want both
it's like that one kind of goes away no no not for you it's almost like you would sell it as
right so that goes away and then um because i can't put a lot of the i mean some of the suspension
stuff works but i would have to kind of he already has that anyways so it's like it's more just
drivetrain and then it's like all right do i just keep the motor you know on the stand somewhere
for the value eventually um or sell it for 20 grand and then recoup 20 grand right away like
there is that angle uh because i don't really care um because i think that's as close and and you
know i don't know if i ever said this before have i ever said this before guys i think that's
we talked i think we talked about this i told me to talk about i think that's as
close as to a forever car i can get because like it checks every single box for me and it's like
you know that that it does everything i want it to do and it looks a certain way it's all of it
it checks every single box and it's not something that can be really replaced without doing that
thing so or spending 250 grand on a sport evo which we know is you know
yeah you know it's out there and and your your car is arguably better than a sport evo
so this this does add the like look back factor that your car might be missing for sure yeah
and it it definitely adds that yeah that piece that your car is probably missing
so then you have like the you don't have to pop your hood to get the you know yeah you have a
yeah yeah you just i mean you just have a lot more it just feels a little better yeah it does i
mean but at the same time i the whole thing just feels like a nicer package i think
so just having those fender flares basically right just that well it has the presence right
like the that the car my car is actually kind of ironically is kind of a sleeper
whereas like with e30 m3 people expect it to be fast and whatever that doesn't matter but like
but it's just it just got the it's got the looks the the one thing that is very ironic about that
though is that i would be compelled to pop the hood because that's kind of part of the whole
thing too right it's like like no you still would i'm just saying i see what you mean it doesn't
you don't it would just have the whole it would just have the whole yeah it would just be a hundred
percent rather than right now you're like 90 percent or whatever yeah and i like the group a like
narrowbody stuff and like that's cool too but i mean there's no no arguing that you know the e30
m3 is is kind of as rad as it gets really for like you know what we're into aesthetically so
that's uh i don't know we'll see he's he's like last time i talked to him he he wasn't willing to
give me a deal dude he wanted like market value and i'm like dude you're giving me a fucking pile
of parts like are we not friends walk away all right if you don't like it walk
away i keep walking away and it's still there just collecting every single black photo that's
going to be a silver which is my favorite he's like that old man dude that's
like i don't know what i got so but but that's why like you know i'm bringing this up i i um
did i crack i'm thinking of cramper lay right now but like um but like you crack the little shell
you know like yeah that's cramper made one crack i've made a crack and uh and he he's open to the
idea so i've kind of like so i'm foot is kind of in the door a little bit but at some point you
will just wear him down but that is your greatest talent as a car acquisition expert as you'll just
keep just keep agile just right chips there hey if you want i could drop some notes off at
it at his house or maybe just drop over some really nice like french like cheese or something
or you know like oh yeah it would probably rot he's never there so i think notes might last a
little better the mice that are living in the car might oh my oh dude yeah i would have that you
know what what am i getting myself into i got to go look at that thing at least it's on the lift can
mice climb posts they can't yes climb mice and climb anything yeah mice can't i mean for that
matter like yeah for what he's saying you could just buy a nice running car and then the question
that we had earlier is like do you just take that and well that's the thing and you can't sell
that engine too like those engines are worth some money yeah i just i feel like it's a there is a
deal to be had here if i've been wearing him down right so like you know but it's it's going to
require some extra work and also it's like i just like the community of ownership and it's like all
dudes we all know and it's like seeing that evolution and like what we've all done to it
warren just are born ruben just disassembled
you're also you're also helping him all right you're helping him dude he does he's never
he's never going to fix this thing dude that's how it's being presented that's what you don't get
he is where's rubens e46 m3 you'll get around to it you'll get around to ask yeah he's still he's
still is waiting to do target new finland and lane which he's going to do a hundred percent
probably next year gt3 is gt3 never needs any work and his and his my 64 it's all
and his and his evo and his yeah he was helping him with a potential 38 build i don't
know what ended up happening with that but not personally doing it but just i connected him with
a schneider we'll need to get him back on the podcast i think is what this is all boiling
down to maybe we can have an intervention too much attention to the car let me let me handle it
so after i do the e30 or after i acquire the e30 m3 then we can kind of talk about it after
the fact how did it all go down and like you know and then it's good why he's doing it and then
maybe he'll announce that he's selling something else but um but yeah so so we have foot in the
door conversations are happening um next evolution you know to be tbd um obviously like zero rush
here but like if he's down i'm kind of down and i think it's it's what i always want it anyways
you know it's just in the car is there i feel less shitty about also like not only because
it's more expensive but also like ripping a perfectly good s14 motor out of a car you know
like this it's already out this car is already in pieces like whatever it doesn't and you have
a plan for it to make it rad so exactly it's not like you're just so that is not the e30 news
by the way that's not the big okay so stay tuned stay tuned ben roget says what's your
threshold for road trip length how long does the drive have to be before you book a plane ticket
i mean totally depends on what you're doing like for us yeah how many days do i have like yeah
where are you going what's your destination at the end of it what are you doing there yeah
how many days am i staying there like yeah that's like that's like for us 350 miles to la 400 what
is it and we often fly if it's a quick trip but driving is kind of nice too you get to go you know
along the way yeah stuff you have a car you know i prefer driving to la and san diego because i
like having a car and i find that going through like driving north and and having to park a car
and then you know having to get a car and getting out of play waiting and i'm a i'm an early guy
you know getting to airport early and then having to get a car when i'm down there like all that
stuff adds up to a lot of time and not like my on my time it's on the air you know on their time
and i like just being like to roll out and do stuff on my you know i like a road trip too so
so la san diego i like doing i like i prefer driving but sometimes if it's a you know sometimes
it's like a day trip obviously i'm not going to drive if it's like i'm going in the morning and
coming back that evening let's say it's a boring trip you're going to salt lake city and from
sanikers there's california where we live it's a pretty bleak drive yeah like that's not a super
fun trip you're flying yeah but you're going to portland and you have some extra days to kill
driving driving art any thoughts i think we're very aligned on all good we're good we covered it
yeah i think it just depends on where you're going and what you're doing you know what i mean
because the long road trips are fun i mean we did the yellowstone trip a couple years back
and i was really fun and you're just going from middle of nowhere parts of nevada and
idaho and all that and it's it's cool it's like an adventure yeah and if you make it part
of your vacation then that's even better right yeah and we did that we drove we drove to ben last
year in my family and that was that was a big part of the trip you know it was a road trip right and
that was exactly that was my favorite part of the the trip is the road trip part get some music going
some beef jerky maybe stop and get a soft serve right lane i love it dude soft and stop at these
funky little towns and maybe there's a view and an ice coffee hey dude maybe there's a weird
maybe a view and an ice coffee what are you thinking about that maybe a maybe a big foot museum or
two yeah quarter house you know not out there maybe just a coffee yeah auto kennel says
if each of you could be a guest on any podcast which podcast would you want to be on p s i miss
you guys with a little heart hands oh oh cute i mean i've already reached my goal i was on shift
opinions podcast with oh that was like a great right it's pretty sweet yeah k paul kasey and
where they give in thousand bucks thousand bucks to appear or what is it yeah i got i get residuals
actually i get paid for for the lifetime of the podcast yeah i get residuals yeah that's pretty
pretty sweet dude um any podcast uh the daily and it'd be about how great driving while awesome
and rad what is there was a second question there what's it what's it gonna be about
she no no no i just i was throwing that in there but it's any any podcast not car related per se
so that's why i was saying like the new york times you know daily podcast which is definitely not
something that you are like as a guest on right like yeah kind of weird i'm thinking lane's
probably uh joe rogan i don't think i don't know about that dude but yeah be fun some business
podcast be fun something like that like talking about yeah like the story radwood school what's
the one word uh is it bill marr he's got that podcast so do you want to be allowed yeah no
marr's marr's kind of a weirdo i mean i think he's funny in in some cases but
he's pretty full of himself i like a lot of obscure comedy podcasts um but i don't they're
more like interviewing comedians so it's not like yeah i would be on i mean like someone like yourself
is what you're saying yeah not like myself that's the thing is like what kind of podcast could you
be on like oh you know what'd be a fun one is um daniel tasha's podcast is kind of weird where he
just has random people yeah he could he could literally be like an event organizer or a car
show organizer and i would be a would work car show guy and then yeah i would be on that so
yeah but he's actually really good i think it also kind of light me up which is kind of fun too
yeah um yeah what about you i don't know dude i'm i'm thinking um i was actually literally
looking through like my downloaded poscat podcast i'm like what podcast do i listen to again
poscat there's also like malcolm gladwell's podcast that'd be fun he's gets super deep
on like history yeah i suck dude i can't think of anything i mean like because right now like i
just fresh on my mind i have the um plate breaking podcast which is an f1 podcast um and i like those
dudes i ask you how you're doing with like you know mentoring and stuff dude yeah exactly just
thought about my like e30 m3 slash k24 swap scenario and yeah yeah that's totally f1 relevant um
i'm sorry i don't i can't think of anything dude um that i really really genuinely want to be on
like i'm down to be on any podcast if i'm invited but it's not like i'm like actively thinking like
that's my goal in life like that one i want to kill that podcast um yeah i hear you yeah
freakonomics is one of my favorites but you know what i'm going to change my i'm going to change
my answer um are you garbage i'd like to go on are you garbage okay i'm not famous so there would
be no point for me to be on it but for me to be asked the questions and have a good time that
sounds fun that would work that kind of works with anyone right the questions work could work
with anyone it doesn't matter yeah yeah that's good what's uh what's this harris's podcast
called now i don't keep changing i don't know harris with cars it's not harris yeah i don't know
but he was with a couple other dudes i've never listened to it but man he just had some uh some
content go out with with him in the uh mclaren f1 long tail which looked pretty fun pretty fun
zipping around a racetrack in a luma winning car pretty sweet here he is uh chris harris and friends
nice there you go i would love to be on that how's that it's like literally like it's like what we
do but like they're over there and they have more access so it's kenglin english and accent
access very very on the nose title fit delighted last question says imagine a sad world where you
can't drive your fun cars anymore and have to stick to an icono box what icono box would you pick and
why icono box how do you define such a thing aren't you a honda fit fanatic that's like right up there
for you a bit fanatic yeah um that's pretty good i mean are we talking to lecture cars is that
count as an icono box or are we more cheap and like cheap yeah yeah how far back does this go
can we go uh key is soulless what is an icono box everyone like a gti isn't but a golf is
is that what we're saying when they made a golf golf is too nice like it has to be i
envisioned something what about the corolla the new corolla wagons are there like the x
i am wagons hatchbacks not wagons hatchbacks that's an icono box it's funny cars are so good now
that's like kind of you could make do like honda civic that used to be an icono box yeah yeah just
a base model look good it's like a pretty decent little car but yeah that's an icono box there you
go i mean yeah uh is that what you're doing you're doing a civic dog yeah so i mean that's not a
bad that's not a bad little car they're so nice now they're they've gotten large and in charge yeah
and they drive well they have nice interiors they're like you know i'm pretty yeah i like the styling
it's not over the top i'm picking probably like a 94 cobalt you know yeah is that a thing yeah man
i saw a first gen rav 4 it was a four door white with the three spoke tri-spokes till it dies
i'll ask permission but i had like a rooftop box and a little awning on the side of it and
some hipster dudes driving it's like dude those are so sweet so sick dude i want a first gen
rav 4 even if only have for the summer gosh dang it i want it yeah and this is a two door one you
said it was a four door white oh okay i want a two door convertible manual all wheel drive yeah
even the four doors look cool but the two doors are like crazy looking how cool they are they're
so neat yeah and they're Toyota yeah do all the stuff and they're Toyota dude
yeah pretty rad dude you know Isaac at beeline just got a new car he got a
bulk second rabbit pickup with a vr six walk okay yeah okay okay yeah dude ready for the
the next rally classic he traded his little misubishi for
interesting yeah well that means he said it's scary fast
yeah i bet i've been so or not even scary fast but like scary that you can't even steer in first
gear yeah that must have a crazy torque steer and be really nose heavy as a like almost to the point
of like doing a stoppy yeah don't you think exactly yeah i can see that yeah it has p slots on it
all right before we get to trivia we have some news folks over at the oh my god we've been waiting
hard news man take it away hard news so i've been talking about this you know the engine and the
swap and this he 30 and the m3 and all this stuff so i got back from the rally and drove home
all totally fine all good my car's been sitting in the garage i drove it around town a few times
like you know but my ritual is every time after a rally i changed the oil on the car for obvious
reasons yeah so i got back from chicago on sunday yesterday you know holiday i i decided to do the
oil change and drain the oil and i always look at it i'm curious to see what it looks like
and it's looking mighty glittery oh boy so i cooked my rod bearings i'm sure i it doesn't
look like they've totally failed but it's how but they i don't know i i'm really shocked because
these motors that it's not the rod bearings that fail it's the valetrain if you over rev them or
if you rev them high my i have i rev it you know to a red line that's set based on what my current
setup is with these cams and everything is sort of like set up for this thing i have a very big
seven quart oil pan instead of the five and a half required for this motor baffled i may add
or might i had so it's you know it's basically prepared for this sort of shit and like it's not
like i sat at red line the entire time and i wasn't doing like super high g cornering i mean i'm on
you know summer sport summer tires or whatever you want to call them so very weird but i cut
open the filter and i can't really see it in there like it's not like accumulated it's not bad you
know where where you look at some of them and it's like oh there it is it's like sludge of just
fucking flakes but no it's like it's definitely like also i'll show you guys a picture i took
pictures of it yesterday and like i was looking at it and i'm like yeah there's no question like i
open up the filter and i dump the filter out with all you know it has the element inside or the
whatever and and then i looked at all of that and sure enough yeah it's like it's not like
thick pearly like where it's like it's f'd starting to go so like basically at
this point not chunks not like not like slivers no no it's just like nothing very very thin flakes
you know and so have you thought of sending the oil to get it analyzed i well i kind of screwed
up i drained it into an oil i drained it into a 17 quart pan that already had the last oil in
there as i usually do two oil changes and then drop off the oil so like um it's mixed which i
guess doesn't really matter that much it's just diluted but i also like you know i i um i took
some i took some off with my glove and then i smeared it on a sheet of paper and like there
were a couple flakes that were bigger and it's a hundred percent copper because like i ran a magnet
over it and it's non-magnetic and and you know as if people if you're aware rod bearings have a
layer of copper that protect it before you get into the the meat of the bearing which at that
point it's failing so it's basically at this point like it's i need to have it you know i need to
drop the oil pan and you know i think you have to remove the oil pump too and all this stuff and so
i don't know if i want to do it i think i'm just going to take it to the shop and just have it all
inspected and basically put upgraded rod bearings at that point in it you know like so i'll put beef
here once that um k power cells so that are just well you'd probably start you might start just
scope the cylinders too yeah that's a good call yeah before you do all that and just make sure you're
not dealing with something other than rod bearings yeah that's yeah that's a good call yeah so that
there's that so but yeah you should just buy a scope pull a plug get in there just a
scope yeah yeah deer deer hunting scope with a laser so yeah very odd um i not ideal not ideal
but you know the worst-case scenario this is also part of this whole ding right it's these are
thousand dollar engines all day long so you know well yeah but i think you know maybe it is something
that you like you're saying you upgrade it the one you have and it takes yeah so that's yeah i hope
i don't have any of more scoring for sure um but then also just making sure everything else looks
it's it's very like fine and you know we're talking like super fine flakes and it's not like again i've
seen when rod bearings are totally gone and like you have like almost like a like a sludge of flakes
right this is like or chunks uh so this is kind of like obvious to me that it's starting to go
and i have zero noise also so like that's that's another the another detail um but yeah who knows
i mean maybe they pop it open they'll go shit your journals are all scored and then like the
crank needs to be turned and like dude don't even yeah i mean at that point or but bores are way
worse so i mean i can't imagine that's the case but um no bores yeah that'd be bad yeah head off
all the stuff right but we'll see so all right so that's this that's the suspense
there wow i don't know where this is all fresh i all fresh so i have i'm taking it
well that oil ain't fresh i can tell you that much um i uh also have a not a down date really but
something i've been meaning to do on my truck is that ever since i put the camper shell on
and then now especially with the bed in it the wood uh platform and then when it's loaded for
sure it is sloppy in the rear and sloppy top is back there spring so i need to add a leaf or a
whole new leaf set and probably just replace the bilsteins that are on it um and i want to do that
but i don't know i yeah i need to talk to uh my boy denver over at san jacuzzi and we're a truck and
get his take because i don't want to be too stiff when i'm not loaded up that would be a bummer
yeah which is most of the time right exactly so it's like it's like something there need to figure
it out so there you go man we need to talk crap about the guys with those tents uh roof top tents
now you're dealing with like a repercussion of having a heavy camper shell in your car all the
time well you'll only use twice a year so no the camper shell i love but i just added like three
or 400 pounds and then the bed added another probably 150 or not even that but you always
leave the camper shell right shell just is on the truck which i like having a camper shell for sure
yeah but it just a 26 year old truck i mean those are original springs right so you're only so the
bed is the only thing that's coming in and out yeah but i think for the bed i'd like to just
leave it in unless i need to move if i need to move something like a piece of furniture i would
just take that out at that point otherwise i'm just always ready to go okay that's the idea so
always ready to go never know when you get that bed in there day never know your idea of bed you
know so it's sleeping i mean you can run it out on your driveway probably for 200 bucks a night or
that's right that's how it all starts all right here we go
we should say morning motors wriggly building
june 7th sunday the old either wriggle it out yeah yeah 9 to 11 and then followed by
a b-line open house from 11 to
two that's right it'll be so full full day of fun i won't be able to make the open house
andrew starts tournament of champions because they went undefeated and won sanikers little league
dude hell yeah travel for that or is that in sanikers it's hosted by his s l v which i'm not
very happy about but that's where we're at okay that's not that far no no it's all county but like
i wish it was just right at warren's is there and i throw you know so cal versus we're not so
cal hard really versus it's hot up there dude it's like 20 degrees hotter dude real quick before
you get into that i got to say i visited the other wriggly building in chicago while i was over
there this week but it is it is not the factory it was like the corporate office in like like
literally smacked out in the middle of the financial district basically like they had a
i mean pretty solid half i should say pretty solid real estate there
interesting pretty alright dude back to trivia um this is a list of brands drivers that don't
wear seat belts what brands have the most non-seat belt wearing owners drivers oh god this is kind
this is a 2020 and newer so it's gonna dodge dodge a Nissan or like right there probably dodge
number one ding ding ding how did you do that oh come on dude 26 percent of the so this is also
fatal crashes where they found people unbelted so this is so that's crazy 26 percent of crashes
were dodges without seat belts it goes across the board right like it's there i can already see
there's you know without getting too detailed on the demographic but like even like the truck
people right like it's saying fuck you know they freedom and just jumping in and like you know
don't restrict my shit and while drinking it it's also yeah and you you leave and you leave
those stupid fucking things on your the front of your charger or challengers or whatever oh well
yeah this is also the people that put like the um fake seat belt uh mail part in so exactly they
don't have to hear the chime so it'll ding yeah uh so dodge is number one and then number two is a
i don't know why it's so high but number two is a wild card the the next three are trucks Chevy
GMC and Jeep but number two is not Nissan oh but it's close kia oh sure kia's too nice on
it's a luxury version of Nissan oh shit oh it's infinity infinity 24.7 percent
so dodge you got infinity in there somehow Chevy GMC Jeep and then after that makes sense
to be a kia and they're kind of all lumped together at that point yeah bottom of the list
there's there's a probably Volvo Subaru Subaru no no think like more conservative Lexus oh Lexus
bingo old bingo bango yeah good job like there you go good job keep wearing those seatbelts folks
all right that's it that's podcast we'll see you next time bye later bye bye
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About this episode
Ferrari talk kicks off with jokes about “Ferrari Luce,” then turns into a broader debate over whether Ferrari should chase mainstream luxury EV buyers or go after something like a Tesla Roadster competitor. The hosts critique rumored and newly revealed Ferrari EV styling and pricing, comparing it to Lucid, the Porsche 935, and even a knockoff F40 vibe. The rest of the episode shifts into project-car realities: starting with a “clean slate,” wheel restoration costs, and detailed E30/E30 M3 rally build and engine-swap planning.
On this episode of the DWA! Podcast we talk about the new Ferrari Luce, DWA! Seabright Motors, Warren's project car update and Art's project car downdate and a whole lot more.
