Shift and Steer Feb 26, 2026

Aaron Talks Morgan Market, Brad is Heading to Get a Chevelle - Shift & Steer EP 556

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Daytona 500

The Daytona 500 is a big car race in the United States where drivers race fast cars on a big oval track. It's one of the most famous races and lots of people watch it every year.

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Formula One

Formula One is a type of car racing with very fast cars that race on special tracks all over the world.

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NASCAR

NASCAR is a type of car racing mostly in the US where cars race around oval tracks and try to be the fastest.

Term

knockoff wheels

Knockoff wheels are wheels that attach to a car with one big nut instead of many small bolts. You need special tools to take them off or put them on.

Term

torque spec

Torque spec means how tight you should screw something on so it stays safe and doesn't get broken. It's like the right amount of strength to use.

Term

counter rotation

Some bolts or parts turn the opposite way to tighten or loosen. This helps keep them from coming loose when the car moves.

Car

Morgan 3 Wheeler

The Morgan Three Wheeler is a special kind of car with three wheels instead of four. It looks old-fashioned but was made again starting in 2012 with some new improvements.

Company

Bring a Trailer

Bring a Trailer is a website where people buy and sell special cars. Lots of people comment on the cars, which helps buyers learn more before they decide to buy.

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Barrett-Jackson

Barrett-Jackson is a company that holds big car auctions where people can buy and sell special or old cars.

Term

right hand drive

Right hand drive means the steering wheel is on the right side of the car instead of the left, which some countries use and others don't.

Car

The Ford Mustang is a popular car that many people love because it looks cool and can go fast. It’s been around for a long time and is famous for being fun to drive and easy to change or fix up. People often talk about it when they discuss classic or sporty cars.

Brand

Morgan

Morgan is a company that makes special sports cars that look old-fashioned and are built by hand. People who like old-style cars often really like Morgans.

Car

Ford Bronco

The Ford Bronco is a tough car that can drive on rough roads and in nature. It was made a long time ago and then made again recently with new features. People like to talk about it because it’s good for adventures and looks cool.

Company

Mecum

Mecum is a company that holds big events where people buy and sell special cars and motorcycles. It's one of the biggest places to find unique vehicles.

Company

Gooding RM

Gooding RM are companies that sell special and expensive cars at auctions where people can bid to buy them.

Car

Acura NSX

The Acura NSX is a fast and fancy car made to be both exciting to drive and easy to use every day. It was special because it used new technology and had its engine in the middle, which helps it drive better. People talk about it when they mention cool sports cars from Japan.

Car

Acura Integra

The Acura Integra is a small car that is fun to drive and works well every day. The Type R version is special because it handles really well and is popular with car fans. People talk about it when they mention cool and reliable cars from Japan.

Car

Buick Grand National

The Buick Grand National is a fast car from the 1980s that looks mostly black and has a turbo engine to go really fast. It was special because it mixed power with some nice features inside. People like to talk about it when they mention cool cars from the 80s and 90s.

Car

Chevrolet Camaro

The Chevrolet Camaro is a strong and fast car that many people like because it looks tough and can go really fast. It was made to compete with other popular cars like the Mustang. People talk about it because it’s a famous muscle car that keeps getting better.

Term

V10 engine

A V10 engine is a type of engine with ten cylinders shaped like a V. It helps the vehicle have a lot of power.

Concept

generational shift

A generational shift means that what people like or want in cars changes as new generations grow up and older ones move on.

Car

Mercedes-Benz SSK

The Mercedes-Benz SSK is a very old and fancy car made almost 100 years ago that was really fast for its time. It looks elegant and was used for racing and long trips. People talk about it because it’s a famous and special car from a long time ago.

Car

Cadillac V16

The Cadillac V16 is an old, very fancy car with a big engine that was popular a long time ago.

Concept

muscle cars

Muscle cars are strong and fast cars made mostly in America a long time ago that many people like because they look cool and go fast.

Term

tuner cars

Tuner cars are cars that people change or improve to make them faster or look cooler, often from brands like Honda or Toyota.

Part

feeler gauge

A feeler gauge is a tool that helps you measure small spaces or gaps, like the space between parts inside an engine, to make sure everything fits right.

Concept

project car

A project car is a car that needs work or fixing, and people buy it to improve or restore it themselves. It can be a fun hobby but takes time and money.

Brand

Ferrari

Ferrari is a famous car company from Italy that makes very fast and special cars. These cars can be worth a lot of money, sometimes even more than when they were new.

Car

Alpine A110

The Alpine A110 is a small, light sports car from France that is easy to drive and turns well. It was first made a long time ago and then made again with new technology. People like to talk about it because it’s different from other sports cars and has a cool history.

Concept

3D printing

3D printing is like using a special printer that builds things layer by layer, so you can make parts or tools right at home.

Car

Chevrolet Chevelle

The Chevrolet Chevelle is a strong and fast car from the 1960s that many people love because it looks cool and has a powerful engine. The 1967 SS 396 is a famous version that lots of car fans want. People talk about it because it’s an important muscle car from the past.

Car

Yamaha YZ80

The Yamaha YZ80 is a type of small off-road motorcycle made for kids or beginners. It's light and easy to ride, often used in dirt bike racing for young riders.

Car

BMW i3s

The BMW i3 is a small electric car that runs on batteries. It has special wheels and is made to be light and easy to drive in the city.

Car

Chevrolet C10

The Chevrolet C10 is an old pickup truck that many people like because it’s strong and looks classic. It was made a long time ago and is popular for fixing up or showing off. People talk about it because it reminds them of older trucks and good times.

Concept

SEMA

SEMA is a big car show where people show off cool car parts and custom cars. It's like a big party for car fans and businesses.

Term

LS

LS is a type of engine made by General Motors. It's very powerful and people like to put it in different cars to make them faster.

Car

Ford F-150 Lightning

The Ford F-150 Lightning is a big truck that runs on electricity instead of gas. It can do many of the things regular trucks do but uses new technology to be cleaner and faster. People talk about it because it shows how trucks are changing with new electric power.

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Every team, every topic, everywhere, this is Belize.

Hey everybody, it's Shifton Steer, the gang's all here.

Welcome to the Party Pals.

Hey man, we're going right at it.

Daytona 500 was last weekend.

Everything's happening and you know what?

We're going to talk about it today right here on the show.

But before we get started, I think we have someone who might want to tell us about their sponsorship of the show.

What do you think, Matt?

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Let's get back.

Yes, trying to.

Are you trying to sweet-talk him, Brad?

Are you trying to sweet-talk our sponsor?

I'm just, we're back, and I'm just on a forgetful mode today.

So I was hoping Matt would just jump right in there and feel it for me.

No, he can't stop laughing.

He has to catch his breath.

Brad's like, we have a unnamed sponsor.

We just really counterintuitive to having a sponsor if you can't remember the name.

It wasn't that I couldn't remember it.

I just didn't want to misspeak.

The whole idea of you jumping in there is now gone because you said I forgot it.

There goes the phone ring.

It's Fandall, not dueling fans.

I thought it was Fanshawe.

It is Fanshawe.

It's Bradley underscore Fanshawe.

That's right.

Hey, before we get going today on some of the things we're going to talk about,

I want to talk about one thing.

I want to give you something free.

Yes, free in caps.

Advice?

Well, advice, sure.

But we do that every week.

But no, hey, if you want to get a free sticker, everybody likes stickers.

Put them on your car, on your lunchbox, on your toolbox, on your whatever.

You can get a free Bond Speed Streetwear sticker.

Just hit up any of my social media, it doesn't matter which one.

Say free sticker, give me your name, address, and your email.

Got to have your email because what you're doing, I'm going to be honest,

you're signing up for my mailing list so that I can send you out information about sales and things like that.

But we have a really cool sticker.

It's die cut.

We just got them in today and we're going to send them out free.

All you have to do is send your name, address, and your email.

And somebody asked me the other day, why do you need my address?

Well, I can't send you the sticker through the email.

Somebody really liked your address to send you that free sticker.

So it was funny.

I was like, really?

Brad, but this is what's happening in today's world.

We're kind of getting out of touch with the simplest things like everything's being redefined.

So they're like email address.

They're like, no, I can't send you the sticker to Nima.

Oh, that's right.

Have a real address.

OK, right.

Like I kind of catch myself fumbling with weird things like that too.

I, you know, I buy stamps still because we use them here at the office and it's even stamps have changed.

When was the last time you guys bought stamps?

I haven't.

I mean, it's probably been like, like I have a couple left because I don't go through them, but probably like two years ago.

When I go to the post office and buy stamps, I try and find something cool, you know, like they had a series of muscle car stamps.

And then they had history of the skateboard, a skateboard art, and those were pretty cool.

And they're limited edition.

But these new ones, I bought like three or four sheets of them because they were so cool.

They don't look like stamps.

They're round and they just have sayings on them.

They don't say US.

They don't say a value.

And I'm like, really?

I asked the guy at the post office, I go, couldn't I just make something and stick it on an envelope?

And, you know, at this point, you know, I mean, because there's so many weird things that he goes, oh, no, they're magnetic.

Because when it goes through the machine, there's a magnetic code in the and I go like an RFD tag.

Wow.

And but but yeah.

And but they're really cool because they don't look like they are a stamp.

So it's it's kind of fun to put them on something going on.

Maybe maybe you'll get one of those if you send me your name, address and email to get a free sticker.

And the stickers cool.

It's if you saw Frye Burger wearing that think flame blown hemi motor art.

That's what the sticker is.

It's really cool.

So OK, speaking of cool stuff, Aaron has been talking about his Morgan and he wants to get his Morgan on.

And now is your Morgan big?

Wow.

Are you talking about what it was a Morgan silver dollars?

Speaking of money, speaking of money.

No, I'm excited.

I just bought my first set of tires and I had to order tools for the knockoffs and and all that stuff because I've never I've never done any of that.

I've always been shy of of like the knockoffs.

It's like, well, how do you tell the torque?

What's the torque spec on those?

Is it it's kind of a kind of a shoulder in it kind of push?

Yeah, it's kind of a lead hammer.

Yeah.

Yeah, but there's one pound of three pound of five pound lead hammer.

There's a double sided lead hammer.

There's a solid head lead.

It's like there's so many variations.

There's a swing like this and then a swing where you come around exactly.

It's like, do you tap it?

I mean, can you over tighten them?

They do tighten counter rotation.

They're counter rotational.

Right.

So there's a left and a right.

But yeah, so I had I went on my Morgan group.

And of course, the talk of the day was the last Morgan that sold on bring a trailer.

Now we're talking to Morgan three wheelers here.

They're the reissues from 2012 onward to two years years.

Mine's a 2013.

So mine has the upgrades, not all of them, but it had more than the 2012.

So a right hand drive, first edition, early, early number 2012 sold on bring a

trailer for a devastatingly low 27,000.

What's market according?

What will you think, you know, market should be on that?

Well, the couple before had sold in the high 40s and 50s on eBay.

They're high 40s, 50s and even 60.

So it's about half the value of what's being listed.

So let me ask you a question.

Is that because of the condition of this one?

Or are we seeing a change like we are in some of the car market where some values are getting softer?

I definitely think some values are softer.

However, this one was right hand drive.

It was a first year and anybody that knows Morgan's knows that they had a terrible bump steer going on.

They had all these issues that my generation, they don't really call them generations,

but that the next year model had improvements on.

So mine had all those improvements.

But these things suffer from heating issues, vibration issues, and like oiling and just like motorcycle stuff.

Just say they're British.

And they're British.

So anyway, so this one, you know, and it was a strange metallic pinky red.

I mean, to me, it wasn't desirable at all.

And so I think the price reflected that someone's going to be hopefully happy with it.

It's going to need a lot of servicing, which was in the comments.

But you know, bring a trailer.

I had a little awakening.

Bring a trailer really is about the comments.

I mean, you can't just take it at face value.

I often skim through the comments, but you guys always go a little deeper in our conversations about bringing a trailer about things in the comments.

But I read through a lot of those comments and it was very, it really paints a very clear picture of the seller being pretty devastated and bummed.

But, you know, the reality of, hey, man, this isn't, this isn't really the prime model to sell.

And, you know, even though you wanted more, it kind of reflects what people willing to pay for it.

But yeah, the story is in the comments.

I'll bring a trailer that I guess it is on anything online these days, right?

One of the problems with any auction, any collector car option is uninformed people will very often see something sell on bring a trailer at Meekum at Barrett Jackson, depending on whatever it is.

And they'll think, oh, I've got one of those minds worth that much.

And just some of the things you described, Aaron, maintenance, color, year, right hand drive.

Yeah.

There's a lot of things that come into play.

I mean, Matt knows that with mustangs.

I know it with hot rods and muscle cars, you know, it's just whatever you're into, you have to always be careful of maybe that Shelby that went, you know, for a huge amount at Barrett Jackson or at RM.

It had some heritage.

It had some pedigree and not just a really nice, clean, you know, Shelby, you know, you never know unless you get deep into it.

I've kind of looked at bring a trailer as as and this isn't the case for all the cars.

Definitely some people get passionate about any auction cars, you can get passionate about it, get a couple people and they just start throwing money at it.

But for a lot of what they do and they do something like up to a thousand auctions a week now that cars are being sold, it really is a good reflection of the market of that particular car.

Oftentimes we will go to an auction and there's a couple of passionate people in the room and they'll bid something very high on, you know, on a car that's not on an aftermarket chassis, doesn't have the proper motor swap.

He's talking about a Lincoln Continental.

Yeah, but a lot of things like, for example, you know, like Fred Bader, you know, he sells cars there all the time.

And you can see all the Broncos that will go across the auction block at something like a Meekam or Barrick Jackson.

And you go, listen, you can get $120,000 all day long for a nicely restored early model Bronco with a pushrod engine in it and, you know, and a stock chassis that's been redone.

But if you do a chassis swap and a coyote swap, you're pushing that into the $200,000 range and that's kind of the norm.

But there are anomalies.

You'll see a really nice one go for little money and you'll see, you know, something that may not be worth it go for a lot of money where the comments and all of the reactions and the nitpicking of, of, of, like, not everybody.

It's kind of like when you're at an auction in person, you don't have a lot of conversation about the car you're bidding on.

It's like you, some friends, if you have a broker with you or a mechanic or something, depends on how serious you are.

We have a conversation with liquor.

Right. You do.

There's often that as well.

But on bring a trailer, that conversation is happening, whether those people are bidders or not.

And oftentimes you'll get some people that know what they are talking about.

And that's what you want.

You want people to go, I know Morgan's.

I'm talking about Morgan's, right?

Let me interrupt you for a second though.

That happens at every auction.

It's just not, it's not everybody had a bubble.

You can't see the transcript.

Yeah.

If a bubble appeared above your head because you talked about it.

Bader and I sit up there and we, and we go, oh, this one.

Yeah, we looked at it.

It didn't have a chassis.

It's got a bubble.

You know, the paint wasn't that good.

Right.

But you look at all this.

But the guy bidding on it.

This role on bring a trailer.

Yeah.

Like you and Bader are having conversation about a Bronco, but someone down on the floor

is bidding on it.

They're not hearing your conversation.

That's where this kind of comes in.

And look, I, when I put my sack Mustang up there, there are people that got on there

and they go, I've never seen one of these before.

What is a sack Mustang?

And there's a bunch of people that go, this is what it is.

This is what it is.

You know, so having that transcript, going through those comments and finding the things

that you said, Aaron, going, well, you know, this is a cool car, but it's not the most

desirable one.

It is right hand drive.

It's an early model version.

It didn't have the proper upgrades done to it yet.

You could, but you know, you're going to have to put money into it.

Exactly.

You look at a lot of cars like, yeah, you can go to Gooding and look at a Lamborghini

mirror and go, oh, this mirror SV is going to, you know, $1.1 million.

That's cheap.

I was like, yes, but it needs $800,000 of work.

And that's why the others are worth $2 million.

Yeah.

Right.

Because it needs that work.

Yeah.

And it reflects that a $27,000 Morgan three-wheeler that needs $10,000 to $12,000 of work puts

it into the lower mid-range of what the value is on top of that it's a right hand drive.

It's a first year model and it's not a real desirable color combination, which puts it

in that bracket.

I bought mine not for much more than that.

And mine had heat issues, which I've fixed, but I was hoping that I'd be in an upper range

of that value because I've done a lot of mods, not mechanical mods, but styling mods, which

make it a very beautiful and interesting version of it.

And I do have mine on sales, a soft sale, but I love the car.

I don't really want to sell it, but like I told my wife yesterday and mansplained to

her all my reasons why it's, we don't have the time, the space, the money, the room, room

and space, sorry, to really just sit on something that I drive a couple of times a year.

And I don't have the confidence.

Wait, wait, wait.

If that's the reason I'm going to have to get rid of all my cars.

Well, but see that's the dilemma, right?

Like, like, hey, I put the Morgan in our living room and next to a big couch with the British

flag on it because it's so cool looking.

But you know, and take it out once a year for the rally and do three months of prep

work on it because it's been sitting the rest of the year, but I don't have quite that luxury

in life.

I want to drive what's in the garage and I want to drive it as frequently as I can.

But I've also realized that I don't have the same grit that I used to and just dressed

for the weather and just go for it.

And and that's and that's and that's a thing too.

I need to just get my grit back on and take it out in the rain and take it out in the

snow and take it out and all the fun times where it makes it more exciting to use and

not just sell it because I've lost some confidence in it and some grit myself.

So I'm reevaluating my Morgan group is awesome.

There's a couple for sale in the Morgan group and they one person just just announced what

he's asking for a very well equipped late model 2019 three wheeler when he's offering

it to the group and my eyes bugged because I'm like, well, I'd rather have that one.

And it's a lot less that I was asking for mine and it's got all the mechanical stuff

that makes it go.

So maybe the market is a little softer.

Maybe he's just, you know, needs a sale.

I'm not sure I'll have to ask him.

I'm not in a position to buy that and sell mine.

If I was, I'd be considering.

But yeah, you know, the market's the market's kind of soft on stuff.

I mean, it's just a very strange market.

Some stuff is some stuff isn't.

Yeah.

And then you get those anomalies, those surprises.

So I don't know, like everything, it's very confusing right now.

Yeah, that's true.

But, you know, I mean, I think the market is a little bit soft on those cars

and some other cars, right?

But, you know, Barrett Jackson just had a really good auction.

Meekum just had their biggest auction ever or the biggest auction ever.

Not not that long ago.

So, yeah, true, you know, Gooding RM, you know, they they just had the big

the Ferrari auction to did well.

So but some things are some things are are softer for sure in that in the car market.

Well, we did see quite a bit of the rest of mod stuff softening a little bit.

And yeah, the low mile clean cars, even just like whatever, an accurate

Integra type R and NSX, you know, Grand Nationals, you know, like 80s, 90s cars,

even stock low miles, clean, unmolested, worth money.

I'm more surprised than what they used to be.

I rock Camaro just like any of them.

Yeah. And I'm surprised when I just went through bring a trailer just just on a whim.

I used to do it all the time before the show, but I did it this morning a little bit.

And I was surprised at some of the vehicles on bring a trailer.

I didn't do the deep dive on why they're on there.

There was a van like a like an early 2000s van.

And it's got to be a V10 van or something.

But then there was all these Japanese cars like Alexis, but like average generic

no frills, just. But like you said, that there's there's a new flavor in town.

Dude, I found a a Schwinn apple crate on bring a trailer.

Wow. Yeah.

I was like, what? Every once in a while, they do something that's kind of weird.

We're seeing and, you know, if you guys agree or disagree, but we're seeing a shift.

Of course, this happens every generation.

There's a generational shift.

We saw the big when I was much younger, you know, and

I would go to Barrett Jackson when I very first started going late 70s to the early 80s.

It was it was those big V16 Cadillacs and the Grand Touring SSK Mercedes and all those.

Those were what everybody was like, oh, my gosh, you know, and

and and, you know, early, early Ferraris, but they weren't anywhere near what they're going for now.

They were in the hundreds of thousands and millions.

But we but we see that shift go to the muscle cars then.

And then it was at first it was the numbers restored must card had to have the right tires.

It had to have nipples on the on the tires still, you know, that were from the original

good year polyglass radio, you know, I mean, all that stuff.

And then it went into slightly modified must cars, then got into pro touring muscle cars.

Yeah.

Well, but we're seeing all the shift, like you said, Matt, into 80s cars

and into some of the the tuner type cars and like that.

But I think we're also seeing people don't want to work on their cars as much anymore.

It used to be that they wanted to buy something that they could restore or buy something that maybe,

you know, like, let's face it, some of the older muscle cars like I I've had,

you better have an extra set of points and maybe a few other things in your trunk

if you're going on a long drive.

I mean, I can remember with my big block Chevy, my first one with solid lifters

once a month going out and adjusting the, you know, the valve, you know, and everything

and getting out there with my feeler gauge.

And, you know, today, people wouldn't even know what that meant.

You know, very true.

Well, I mean, I'm I'm about to be 56 in a week.

But even now, I look at projects, I'm like, you know what I mean?

Like I would have ripped something out of the ground even 10 years ago and and went to work on it.

But now that because you're 56 or is it because you've just got so much more going on in your life?

But hard to say because I think I probably had more going on then.

But but I'm joking that now being middle age is like is it a middle age thing?

Usually that's when people retire and go, hey, you know, I'm going to get me a project, you know.

But I'm looking for less projects.

And I think it's just reevaluating time.

But resources, I got to say, resources are getting harder on the things that I like

and probably some of the things that you guys like, too.

There's a wonderful boom in technology and 3D printing.

I've got a nice story about that and the Land Rover.

But I think that on the other hand, something like the Morgan, there's nothing.

There are no alternatives when that thing grenades, it's a brick.

Yeah, that's too bad.

That that's unfortunate for those type of vehicles.

I'm really bummed looking at I I don't know what got me to do.

But I was looking at cars that I always wanted.

And there's certain cars that I'm like, God, why didn't I buy it when it was this much?

Because now they've gotten just ridiculous.

When I saw the other day, you guys have seen pictures of my three fifty five

that I used to have, my black one, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah.

I saw one going for three hundred thousand.

I was like, what the? Yeah, I know.

I want more three hundred thousand when I bought it new.

And there's got to be a story behind it because that that's too much.

Yeah, that was high, though.

You know, I mean, that's just too much money.

But but still it's like some Ferraris did sell recently three fifty

fives and stuff that were that were high dollars.

So I think people are trying to capitalize on that.

Maybe not all of them are going to go that high.

But but it is also regarded as as kind of the last of the good analog cars.

Like it had power steering, but it also very it was a it was a dog.

Mine was a dog.

I used to get on the freeway and go, I hope it'll get going fast enough to merge

into track. I mean, seriously, it was not a fast look good.

But it wasn't a fan.

And he had the nice gate shifter and everything.

But you know what, Aaron, I've been looking at,

you know, BB-12s, because I mean, I know they're still a classic analog

Ferrari that has a V-12 and you can still get flat.

I don't mean to correct you, but it's a flat 12 in that.

Right. It's not a Colombo.

It's a flat. No, I know.

Not a V-12. Yeah.

But I've driven them.

I've driven my keys and I've driven a couple others and they're nice cars, man.

They really are. And you're right.

They do feel very analog.

You do feel everything through the seat and the steering wheel and the shifter

and even the door handle.

I mean, that car, not that it vibrates, but it's alive.

That car really good looking car.

I think so, too.

But again, especially the Euro front end, the Euro front end looks absolutely.

But again, parts, parts like like where you get glass, you know, where where do you get?

Where do you get tires?

I mean, even getting you do like you do used to do in the muscle car days,

you buy one and you buy a parts car.

Well, that's that's what the three wheeler community.

That's what he's offering.

He's like, you get this car and my parts car,

which is a fully running operational vehicle.

You know, I'm like, oh, my God, like, that's less than I wanted for my car.

Anyway, but if you don't mind, I got a fun little contrast story.

Can you make it a little more dimensional rather than this flat conversation?

So hold on a second.

Before you get into that, before we forget, we need to take a little break.

So why don't we just get it ready, man?

Let's just go ahead and knock it out now.

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Well, welcome back.

Hello. Welcome back.

So the Land Rover story.

So, you know, it's been really rainy all over California and Sonoma is no exception.

And we've been driving Misha's little D90 Defender.

It's an NAS Defender.

You know, it's kind of the crème de la crème of those old defenders.

And it has the exact same leaky problems as my 110, like in the same exact places.

So it's clearly a design flaw.

But when it pours rain, things like the rear defroster doesn't work.

The rear wiper doesn't work.

The interior door light doesn't come on when you turn on the blinkers.

You don't hear the tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, right?

And also when you open the door of the key in the ignition, you don't hear the buzzer.

And then there's the waterfall when you open the door out of the front of the drip rail.

You know, those kind of things.

And so I posted a fun little, you know, silly little video that I get to do sometimes.

And of course, the community is so awesome.

Oh, my Jeep does that.

Oh, my old Bronco does that.

Oh, I had a Honda that did that.

You know, my Yukon did that when I didn't have it for a while.

When I didn't have a sunroof.

The sunroof, in a way.

I just had a piece of wood in there.

I didn't have a sunroof.

And of course, we had like the rainiest winter ever.

And your hair looked like mine, you know, stuck up.

Your beard was sideways.

Oh, I wore one of those those hats that are a little mini umbrella.

There you go.

A Beetlejuice hat.

Yeah, the Beetlejuice hat.

But it was really cool because in those comments,

and I was surprised by the engagement, it was really, it was really nice on a rainy day.

But in the comments, someone went, hey, and they tagged someone else and they said they have a solution.

And so I looked on their profile and I went, that's it.

I had just told my wife, I don't know, half an hour before that.

I said, something showed up on social media and or something I saw and it was a solution to this.

And it was them. It was one of the posts.

So so I went to their website and they had a little eBay store and they 3D printed this

and they just came up with it.

And what's the solution for?

It's a solution for the drip rail.

So at the front of the drip rail, it just terminates a little early,

which causes it to drip straight down into the right.

Like it's literally like a waterfall.

It's brutal.

And it's just because you open the door and you just soaked, you know,

and then your speakers soaked in the puddle on the floor.

The solution is don't drive it in the rain.

Oh, no. That was my first thought.

When you posted it, I was like, don't you have something else to drive?

Are you driving this thing in the rain?

Don't drive your off-road utility vehicle in the rain.

I mean, it is called a land rover, but I guess they meant dry land.

Just a dry land. Dry land. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

So so it was I went on there on their eBay store and bought the one

and they haven't they have a 110 with an Icarus IUCAB rooftop as well.

And they designed a specific one for that that channels the water

from the flat edge of that rooftop down into the channel.

So I ordered that one, too, and I messaged them.

And anyway, we've been having conversations for a couple of days now

online and we kind of have a new friend.

Fidget Overland is what their Instagram is, fidget underscore Overland.

But a really nice lady and I assume

somebody else on an underscore.

Yes, someone else on the underscore.

Yes. But but but they found a solution.

And she said, yeah, we recently adopted the 3D printing world.

And it took us a little while to wrap our heads around, you know,

and get around the learning curve of of CAD, CAD and and design some stuff.

But they designed a bunch of prototypes.

They got it to work.

They have a very specific solution on how you glue it onto the onto

the dirt rail.

And I just thought I love this world in that way,

that you can post something fun and silly, you get some feedback,

you connect with someone who's already found a solution for it,

that they 3D printed and made at home.

Hot rotting has not left the channel.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's that old classic.

Get some friends together, come up some ideas.

Someone's got the skills.

We all 3D printing is awesome, right?

And solution now.

Now we're now you have a solution

because some guy 3D printer and I'm looking at it.

I'm looking at it and what a just a simple little piece of plastic

that you stick on.

And I know, but look how engineered it is.

It has that little flare and that little curve, that little cutaway.

So it grapples around the corner and diverts it just that right

direction to get it over the lip and down onto the windshield. Right.

I mean, yeah, really smart.

And and you can be consistent.

And they say, trim away this one little section

of sealant on your rover and it'll snug in there just right.

You like the only down part part of it is at 60 miles an hour.

It goes, well, that's why you use sick of flex.

And they recommended sick of flex as as as bad on strong calls it

Mansori glue, I think in Europe, it's tiger seal as well.

Technology is just I mean, if you use it correctly, it's amazing.

You guys know, I played around a little bit with the stuff on the podcast,

you know, trying to use our voices and stuff.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

A buddy of mine who owns an ad agency in the Midwest,

I was he was, you know, like blown away by all that stuff.

And I turn him on to which ones to use and everything like that.

Called me the other day.

I'm like, here we are doing this little podcast.

He calls me there and he goes, man, I just wanted to thank you.

And I go, what's that?

And he goes, you turned me on to how to do that and all the stuff

and everything like that.

He goes, I just got a $50,000 contract.

He goes, because there is this medical company that we have done work with in the past

and people, the spokespeople they hire always mess up the pronunciation

of these medical terms, you know.

And and he said he filmed this woman on a green screen.

Then he created her.

What do they call it?

An avatar or something like that.

Yeah. But and and then they recorded her voice in this really

extravagant thing to get it just right.

And he goes, Brad, he goes, you cannot tell it and they are so pleased with it.

And he goes, there were no retakes.

There were no filming.

He goes, we put it all in and boom.

He goes, it was done in like 40 minutes.

And he goes, and he goes, the profitability was, you know, off the charts.

And I'm like, I like, good, how much do I get?

And he goes, I'm going to take you to lunch.

You like Denny's?

But I mean, think of that.

I think of like medical terms, because, you know, those are, you know,

they got to be.

Yeah, that's right.

But people. Yeah, yeah.

Especially if you have an accent or in a foreign country,

those medical terms can be slightly different.

But I mean, you know, that's the 3D printing of elsewhere in the world.

Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, not that I need a new hobby, but I keep circling

back to that there's a new, I think it's a bamboo.

Anyway, it's one of these consumer ones.

But the quality is amazing.

It's pretty cheap.

It's got a little working laser unit in it too.

So it's kind of a hybrid unit.

It harbors or holds three or four different types of elements on top.

And I mean, they're beginning to get affordable.

And we talked about, you know, chat GPT and some of these AIs, which will

literally, I think I mentioned one of the other shows that there's three steps

and you can go from here's my drawing or here's the part I need.

Chat GPT, tell me how to formulate it.

They formulate it.

They 3D it, you put it into this program, which makes it ready to print.

And you put it in this program, which prepares it to print.

And then it prints and you've got something that I didn't have to program.

I didn't have to render in CAD.

I didn't have to do any of this stuff.

I just had to fix a couple of little things because AI is not perfect.

But it allows someone like me with a lot of creativity to actually execute,

you know, I want a new I want a new body for my from a new housing for my tape measure.

You know, I mean, you have an idea and there's tools out there

to help you realize that idea.

And it's one of the things that I'm kind of mesmerized with,

because I've always, you know, is the sand casting.

And now that they're making one time molds, you know, they 3D print them.

And yeah, you can pour the stuff in like you would in the sand.

I just mentioned that to my wife yesterday.

You can make some really cool stuff like it makes it makes a meltable artifact.

Yes, it's a lost cat.

It's it's it's you know, lost lost lost lost wax idea.

You dip it in a slurry of like sand and and and that kind of stuff.

Yeah, and then it'll melt away and you have a piece in metal.

Yeah, pretty pretty outstanding.

So even on a small scale yesterday, I was I was doing I was doing a little painting

and I didn't choose a great reference.

And it was a cool character that I wanted to emulate.

But but but the values weren't there.

It was very flat.

And so in my painting, my painting came out very flat and very muddy.

And I had some reasons why.

And sometimes as being an artist, that's what a sketchbook is for.

It's just to to try things and realize the mistakes so that you can move

and work and find solutions past them.

And so I thought, well, I think I already know all the reasons why,

but I'm going to throw this in the chat GPT and just and just take a look

and see what it says.

And man, it nailed it.

I mean, absolutely nailed it.

And I took out those filters.

You know, I filtered it so it's not like, well, you'll be fine.

You know, you're doing just great.

You know, I don't I don't want the coddling.

So it tells me pretty direct what's going on.

And it was really true.

And I said, show me, you know, generate a version of this with as a better reference

with better with more color and more natural, you know, colors and values.

And it did. And it spit it out.

And I'm like, that's the reference I needed.

And and it was great tools.

We have great tools.

And it's almost like my my little art buddy that I talk to because I don't have a teacher.

It's your muse.

Yeah. Well, no, it could be.

But for me, it's it's it is reassurance in my thoughts and because I'm not an educated artist.

I didn't go to school.

I didn't go to college.

I didn't study through repetition on all this stuff.

So I'm still exploring it as a professional artist.

I'm still exploring the fundamentals.

So I asked myself questions and I have to watch a bunch of YouTube to figure it out.

Well, chat, TPT is a shortcut to that because it pretty much defines it and gives me examples.

And I kind of found that that style of teaching in conversation in a conversation

I had last night with the with the kid buddy of mine, who's getting into filming, you guys.

And so I'm going to share some of our old tools that we used to use.

But in that formula of here's a solution and here's a reason why and here's an example of that.

You know, the chat GPT uses, I actually did that with him and it was very successful.

So, you know, I learned a couple things from that conversation.

It's awesome. It's amazing to use it correctly. It's awesome.

Amazing tools, although it did get a button wrong on my Land Rover.

Did I tell you that one?

It says right at the bottom that it makes mistakes.

Yeah, but it's so funny. It was trying to convince me that a button on my dash.

Oh, you told us, yeah.

Yeah, for the center lock and it was just dim the lights.

So back to analog, away from this digital, but back to analog.

I'm taking a trip. I'm leaving tomorrow morning.

And as the show is being recorded, I'm leaving tomorrow morning.

And headed over to Arizona. And if everything goes right,

I'm going to be bringing back my 1967 Chevelle SS 396, which was the very first car I ever bought.

Wow.

Now this thing, I was 15, had a learner's permit and my dad came home and he said,

I know you're going to be wanting to get a car pretty soon.

A buddy of mine's got one for sale.

And, you know, when you're 15 with a learner's permit, it could have been anything at that point.

You know, and then he said SS 396 Chevelle.

And I was like, well, what, you know, we went overlooked at it.

And I gathered up my paper route money and my money from the sale of my,

my YZ80 Yamaha dirt bike, my motocross bike, and paid 625 bucks for it.

Wow.

And he was a fortune to a teenager back then.

Oh yeah. And he was the original owner.

The car had like 45,000 miles on it.

And it was bone stock, had hubcaps on it still, you know, nobody messed with it at all.

Until you got it.

Until I got it.

So now you've been paying insurance and storage for 50 years.

That's right.

Because I am ashamed to say that the last tags on the license plates are 1980.

Oh, and I took the body off the frame in 1982.

Oh, but you are that guy, Brad.

I am.

And so I'm going to, and why I say if everything goes right is the trailer.

I have the body on a body dolly that I built.

Right.

But it's over in Arizona.

I have no, I have no measurements on it.

I couldn't find my measurements from when I built it.

45 years ago you built it?

No, I didn't do it that long ago.

It was like 43.

No.

But the, so I'm hoping it doesn't go between the ramps.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

The ramps.

And because I'm not after this, I'm going to take the chance of that thing like,

you know, going sideways and coming off the ramps and putting it on its side after

all this time.

But if everything goes right, that'll fit up in the trailer, tie it all down and

that'll be the primary body, the frames, not attached to it anymore, obviously.

And then I'll load the back of the truck up with the fenders, the motor, all that

kind of stuff and get as much of it home as I can on this trip.

Wow.

And then once it's in here, I can get it, you know, the beauty of the body dolly is

I can turn it 360 degrees.

Yeah.

You know.

So is the frame in Arizona too or is the frame already?

The frame's in Arizona.

Everything's in Arizona.

Yeah.

The motor, the trans, the all the seat belt.

How are you going to get the frame here and the body on the dolly in one trailer?

I'm not going to be able to bring it all in this trip.

Yeah.

The frame's going to have to come in a separate trip.

But that's easy because I know that'll, I can strap that down to my car trailer anytime,

you know.

And I do have a backup if, if for instance, things don't look out.

I did look into U-Haul and they have a, a, it's not an enclosed trailer.

It's a four foot high rail, railed trailer that has a loading gate instead of just,

you know, being a, it has a ramp.

Yeah.

And it, it looks like it measures out that the body would fit between there and I could

strap it all down and put the tailgate up and bring it home that way.

So I'll leave my, my car trailer.

You got to get it in the, you got to get it in that trailer without a winch unless you

like take a, can you take a winch off your other?

I'm taking two four jacks and I'm taking, I have these old wooden ramps from when I had

my enclosed car trailer that you have ever seen the step ramps that people do out of

wood and I have those which would get the front end up a little bit.

And I got a couple of buddies over there that said they would help me if I need.

Yeah.

And then it's not that heavy at that point.

If you're not looking at a frame or an engine, it's like, it's a body on the, yeah.

And you get, you get the lever effect too because the rear quarters hang over, you know,

and you, you just got to make sure that doesn't hit the ground and.

Yeah.

And make sure it's tied down.

Oh yeah.

Oh no, it's got a tailgate.

Why do I need to tie it down?

Just slap it and bang it around like a pinball machine back there.

But I'm excited.

I'm excited.

And I am going to try and film this entire journey and do the first of my, the journey

of restoring the Chevelle videos.

You're just filming it as an excuse to all your buddies have to load it up into the car,

load the car into the trailer.

So you're like, I'll hold the camera.

I'll film it.

You guys, you guys do it.

I'll hold the camera and this will be great.

This will be great.

No, I actually bought a really nice suction cup thing that's being delivered today that

will hold the, you know, the camera.

Like if I could put it on the back window of the truck while we're loading and it'll be

filming and then I can, and then it goes into a tripod.

It's, it's pretty cool little thing.

But I'm hoping that by filming it and putting it up on my, on my YouTube site, which by

the way, if you want to go there and subscribe now, you can go subscribe to Brad Fanshawe

on YouTube.

I think it's Brad Fanshawe content and podcasts.

But anyways, maybe I can make it a tax write off.

Maybe you can.

All the expenses could be a tax write off.

But then what's the plan with the car?

Where are you bringing it?

What are you going to do it?

I'm in the process right now of cleaning out the warehouse, trying.

I'm getting rid of so much stuff.

You guys have been there.

You've seen the, the big crates that I have from years of shipping trade show boosts over

to Europe and stuff.

This is at the office, not the other, not the, not the other warehouse.

I'm going to make out a working shop now and you know, I've got my lift there.

So I've got a lift there and I'm going to, I'm going to hang the dragster on the wall

so that it's not on the lift and I can use the lift and I'm going to, I'm going to do

it right there.

I'm going to kind of make my shop more of a shop rather than a warehouse.

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

I just had a vision.

Shift and steer podcast number 5,544.

Brad brings the frame back to Arizona.

So is this a restoration project?

Is this a modification project?

Like what's your vision for the car?

Have you gotten that far yet?

I'm going to put a $50,000 chassis under it.

I'm going to put two LS motors, one in the back, one in the front.

No, my, my vision for it is to be, if I could have built the car in high school with some

of the technology today, it's still going to have a big block Chevy, but it'll probably

be, because the motor's done and it's fresh.

It's never even been fired since I hate to say this.

I, I redid it in 1980.

Now I might have to take it apart and just check everything for surface rust and like

that, but maybe change of Alsprings.

But it's been sitting in, it's been sitting in, in Arizona.

So that's the good thing because it's dry.

I was going to say that too earlier, but I didn't want to interrupt.

But the fact that everything is in Arizona, because in my head, I'm like, oh, you know,

if that dolly was sitting outside someplace that could be have weak points.

It could be rusted as like, but now it's like, it was in Arizona.

It's fine unless like some dog keeps going over and peeing on it.

No, it's inside.

It's inside.

So you mean it'll have a p-tina?

Unless there's some rats that have been chewing on it or something, you know, but, but no,

I go over every once in a while, check on my stuff and it's all solid and knock on wood.

But no, I want to do like, I'm, I'm, there's these wheels that I've wanted to build for

years that pro stockers used to use, which were motor wheel flies.

And a guy in Omaha, when I was growing up, had a Chevelle super stock car, a competitive

super stock car and I had these wheels on it.

Always loved them.

They're real simple, but excuse me, really cool.

But I'm going to do them in like a 19 and a 20 and I'll do like 20, 12s in the back.

So I'm going to mini tub it, but not to be a pro touring car because I'm putting five

inch wide rims on the front because now, have you ever seen those little BMW electric cars,

the little bitty ones?

Yeah, the i3s.

Yeah, the i3, yeah.

They come with 18 fives all the way around or an optional 19 five all the way around.

So I already snagged one of those, looked at the tires because they come with a radial

tire and it looks like a spare tire and like a sports car.

But, you know, there's so many things like the, you know, the EFI that I can put on electronic

fuel injection, but it's going to be a big block with a power glide with a race power

glide and high stall converter.

So it's going to be a muscle car and it's going to be more drag race influenced, but

I'm going to put tubular arms under it and I'm going to, you know, coil springs, all the

stuff to make it so it doesn't have body roll and things like that.

So it'll be, it'll be.

Do you know how to drive an automatic?

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure because mine is actually a manual valve body automatic.

But it's only a two speed power glide.

So that just means you go one, two, one.

Brad's going to put a, just a dummy pedal in there with a spring just so he can get

that feel, you know.

I got into Mesa's Defender, which is an automatic 97.

They made automatics in 97.

It's a special edition.

And I went to put my foot down and turned the key.

You know, I just, it's a habit.

So I get it.

You hit the edge of the brake pad and you went up.

It's an automatic.

That's right.

So I'm looking forward to it.

I'm going to make it kind of an adventure.

I'm going to stop a few places along the way and, you know, just, you know, like if I

see something cool alongside of the road, like a C10 pickup sitting in a field, I'm

going to film it and kind of make it.

We know you're going to stop because you're going to be drinking rock stars.

You're going to have to pee everything.

Well, that's what I mean.

I'll be holding the camera while I pee if you hear like a.

Well, we were across our fingers that you don't have to change the tire during that

stop.

I hope not.

Yeah, I think it.

Knock on wood.

I'm excited for you.

I think it's a cool project and there's a lot of past time guys history on this car

and, you know, you having it for, you know, and now that you got rid of that Mustang in

the shop, you got space for this place so you can you can move your.

And then one of these days, I'll go back over to Arizona and get the Mustang out of it,

out of the shop over there and bring it back so that I can.

Yeah.

Well, is that a late model one?

Yeah, it's the.

It's like an.

First generation of the new one 80 or not 80 when we're talking about 80.

2003.

Is that when they came out with the new body style 2003?

I think it's 2005.

Okay.

2005.

Yeah.

That was the one that they sent me because the car hadn't been out yet.

They wanted me to do one for SEMA.

Yeah.

And so they sent me a body in white with extra, like, you know, front and rear noses and,

you know, rear facias, I should call it.

Yeah.

And and all of the stuff that I needed and it, it was, you know, it's just been sitting

there.

They were going to crush it as I've told you before.

And what I would like to do with it, if I don't sell it, I might just sell somebody

who wants to make it into a road race car.

Some has no Vintag so it cannot be on the street.

But I've always thought it might be cool to make into a gas or car, you know, put a

straight axle under it, put some big blower and make it into some crazy gas or car.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Oh, don't you have a clay model?

Or do you not have that anymore?

The clay model?

You mean the, the front and rear facias?

Yeah, I thought you, I thought you were sculpting the clay model.

You were making the front.

We did.

We did the black rose.

We did it all in clay in my shop, the front and rear facias and all that.

And I've got the original molds and, and parts to do that.

But I just, I don't know, you know, pull, I'm not a fiberglass guy.

I hate fiberglass and to pull a front and rear nose when I've got two brand new front

and rear noses, well, not a rear nose.

I have a rear facia and a front facia.

Yeah.

And, but, but yes, I do.

If anybody wants to make a black rose, I have the parts to do it and they, they can have

them.

Okay.

Well, not have them.

They could buy them.

So basically the bottom line to this is that you really want to win this bet that someone

believed that you actually had the car.

That it's not just a figment of my imagination.

Okay.

If it's true, I'll give you X amount.

If you put that car on a trailer and drive it all the way here and show up, drive by my

house in the honk, then I'll give it to you.

I'll tell you, it's, as Matt said, storing it all these years, I would not want to add

up the value of storing it in my building.

Yeah.

Yes.

Some of us have suffered from that in the past.

Boy, it's, you, you just, you just think of that kind of stuff.

You go, wow, what was I thinking?

You know, but, you know, I'm doing it now with other cars.

My Camaro and my, you know, Mercedes and all that stuff that's sitting in store in my shop

at home.

I can't use my shop at home because I got cars stored in it.

Right.

But there's no price for passion.

And apparently there's no value in it either.

Hey, you guys, what does LS mean?

You know, you talk about an LS motor.

What's LS stand for?

Lazy shit.

What do you think, Aaron?

Lost senses.

I don't know.

This came up.

Somebody said to me, they go, what's LS mean?

And I go, I have no idea.

Very good point.

I'm like, I have no idea.

Long stroke.

But it's not long stroke.

That is one of the things.

Long stroke.

Long stroke is one longitudinal short block is another.

Oh, wow.

You know what?

They said, I found an article that said one person at General

Motors says, oh, well, it means luxury sport.

And I was like, what PR person came up with that?

Not for a motor.

I don't think that.

But nobody can really say what it is.

It's just LS.

It's not like.

I feel like you can ask Fry Burger and he'll know.

Yeah, Fry Burger.

You're right.

Do you want to text him or do you want me to text him?

Wait, wait, we should all text him.

Everybody load it and push send now.

I mean, everybody knows GTO is great tiger offering or something

like that.

Right.

Yeah.

Mustang LS means Mustang luxury sport.

Right.

I think it probably does.

50% of the time it works 100% of the time.

Good question.

All right, guys.

All right.

I guess we can wrap it up here this week.

Got anything you want to promote Aaron?

No.

Aaron, he's too shy to say this, but he would love to have

somebody sponsor him for a 3D printer.

Well, the Morgan's for sale.

If you guys are interested in a Morgan, hit up Aaron on social

media, get the cool funky Morgan that you've done so much work

on.

And Matt has a new Ford Lightning that he would sell for

Windows sticker.

He's not even going to ask for over Windows sticker.

Yeah, you can have my new Ford Lightning for what I owe.

You'll only be upside down for a little bit on that.

All right, guys.

And me, I'm just trying to hawk T-shirts, Bond Speed Streetwear,

excuse me, BondSpeedStreetwear.com.

And like I said, if you want a free sticker, DM me your name,

address, and your email, and we'll get one out to you.

And then you'll be in the know on everything that's happening

over there.

Yes, help Brad get a new voice by donating to it.

Yes, donating to my medical fund.

So anyways, all right, everybody, thanks for listening.

This has been Shift in Stare and we'll be back next week.

And that's a promise, not a threat.

About this episode

The hosts dive into the recent Daytona 500 and discuss motorsports betting with sponsor Fandall Sportsbook. Aaron shares his experience buying tires and tools for his 2013 Morgan three-wheeler, touching on the quirks and maintenance challenges of these British vehicles. They analyze a recent Morgan sale on Bring a Trailer, highlighting how condition, model year, and market trends affect values. The conversation also covers the nuances of auction pricing, the importance of informed bidding, and how online comments provide valuable insights into car sales. Throughout, the hosts blend humor with practical advice for enthusiasts.

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