AI, Junkyards, and Journeys: An Exciting Auto Adventure
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AI, Junkyards, and Journeys: An Exciting Auto Adventure
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Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast, a 30 minute mini version of the In Wheel Time car show that airs live every Saturday morning 8 to 11am central.
Good morning from the Sugar Shack World headquarters.
It's the In Wheel Time car talk show Just ahead.
We talk to Jessica Gonzalez from Informed IQ about how AI is finding dealer fraud.
Jeff has a segment on the 10 largest salvage yards in the US, conrad has the racing calendar and the car clinic, and then later we discuss the stories making up auto headlines this week.
All this just ahead on the In Wheel Time car talk show.
Howdy, along with Keen Conrad DeLong.
We need more Jeff Zeekin and Mr David Ainsley making a special appearance today because Don is out for the day taking care of some visiting with some family, so he left us to our own and here we are.
So if something breaks, it's not my fault.
That's right.
It's always Mars' fault.
That's right.
I got broad shoulders, I can take care of it.
I can handle it.
I knew a broad like you so I see everybody's kind of survived the heat this week kind of got a little bit cooler.
Wasn't too bad this week compared to the previous weeks.
And it's supposed to be getting nicer this weekend.
We're all looking forward to rain, even though it's Labor Day weekend, we're all looking forward.
I don't care if my plans are canceled outside.
I want the rain.
Yeah, we definitely need the rain If it rains.
I can hear my yard go.
Because right now it's crunchy.
You walk across the grass and it is very, very crunchy, absolutely.
So how's, everything?
else going guys.
Are we guest list at the moment?
Yeah, Miss Saga, our first guest is a little slow getting here apparently.
Well, David and I were reminiscing about our vacations this past summer.
Did you go anywhere this summer?
Nope, nope.
Didn't have the urge or need to venture out somewhere and dip your toes in the water.
No, angie went to California.
She's there right now.
She left Friday With the kids.
Well, yeah, actually with both kids.
Last Saturday Austin did the Alcatraz swim oh, you're talking about that.
Yeah, so they take a ferry out to Alcatraz and they all get a little GPS ankle bracelet, which in San Francisco lots of people are wearing ankle bracelets, and then you swim in.
He finished seventh in his class Wonderful.
Wow, very cool.
How long of a swim is that About?
three quarters of a mile.
Oh, that's him.
Yeah.
But it is.
It's not shark infested water, but there are shark.
There can be sharks in that water.
The water is very like a better term turbulent, violent.
Yeah Well, it depends on a current or something?
Yeah, they do.
They do it at what they call slack tide.
So just as the tide comes in, it kind of slacks off and then takes a little bit before it heads back out.
So they time it so that they're swimming during slack tide.
But yeah, that is a you know, you get down under the Golden Gate Bridge and that is a rush of water going in and out as tide changes, just because that whole bay is going to empty out.
It's pretty, pretty cool.
He was real proud of himself, I was real proud of him.
You know, he um, and in the groups they separate out those that wear wetsuits and those that don't.
And Austin, having been a water polo player his whole life, he did the swim in a speedo.
And he looks.
He looks much better in a speedo than I do.
You know, I'm kind of thinking, that's true.
That's a word.
Picture.
He just run the whole morning.
He just had everybody throw up in their throats.
But um, so yeah, so they separate out because they say, uh, wearing a wetsuits and advantage not just keeping your body warmer while you're doing the swim, but also in your ability to glide is better in a wetsuit.
Well, swimmers, don't they like?
Shave their whole bodies and stuff.
Oh yeah, that was when Austin swim high school and a little bit of college.
That was part of the deal when you went to a big meet.
Shave before the meet.
So no other ambitions to go to like new brothels or go to bin or anything Nope.
Nope, no, I didn't.
He enjoyed the heat.
No, I didn't enjoy the heat.
I'm not.
I'm not a hot weather guy, I'd rather it be.
I don't want freezing cold, you know, like upper Michigan cold, but I'd prefer cooler weather than hot weather.
You know you bring that up with your vacation because we we went up to Michigan, up, like you did a couple of weeks after you.
Yeah, come back, or you were there.
But the weather you wake up and it's 49 degrees in the morning, oh yeah, you open the windows in the air air B and B and then daytime at 72.
Yeah, evening six o'clock, you're putting a sweater on.
That's right.
You may be wearing shorts during the day, but you're putting a sweater on or some type of cover up or whatever.
Yeah, have a cocktail or two, warms you up a little bit Absolutely, and then you do it all.
Couple of gummies, that too Give you the munchies.
But the weather you know cloudless skies, no humidity or low humidity, Just incredible.
Well, that is a huge tourist region of the country is Upper Peninsula Yep.
Keep it a secret.
Don't talk about it too much.
Yeah, I was going to say you know, don't, don't tell anybody, and we're in 40 countries, so you know, have fun yeah.
Go on up and poor and poor David, because now Don's already invited himself for next year.
Yeah, they enjoyed their time Very good.
I did like it.
He didn't get in the water, though he was a wuss.
What.
Leslie did.
She went full under, but she's more athletic.
She is.
It was breathtaking.
It was a training.
I should have had a camera Breathtaking cold.
Oh yeah, yeah.
She dipped down and came up and eyes were about that big around.
Mine would be too, so it was.
It takes your breath away.
But the kids jumped off of 30 foot rock cliff diving or rock diving or whatever and got video of that.
They said it was cold but they did it multiple times.
So once you get in, once the initial shock is over, they say that one person a year dies doing that because of the shock heart attack stroke oh yeah, oh well.
Yeah, there's reasons behind that it is dangerous.
First of all, you're jumping off 30 some feet.
Well, did they hit a rock, or was it just cold water?
No, no, cold water.
It was just cold water.
I thought they did the.
I thought that was known for the Eskimo swedish pun.
No, that's in Sweden.
Oh, that's in Minnesota.
Minnesota is where the Swedes are Minnesota.
Minasota.
Well, do they?
They do that on like New Year's Day or something, don't they?
Up there, they all run into the polar plunge the polar plunge.
That's what it is.
Well, now they're going to close the the bridge for the Labor Day.
Walk that and back in our bridge.
Yep, yeah, it's five mile five mile.
That's a five mile bridge.
Yeah, is it really?
I think it's the longest in the world, not sure.
A lot of cars go across it every, every day.
Four lane, two, two each way.
So where do they go across and park?
I thought you weren't allowed to have cars on Mackinac.
Island.
No, you go to the UP.
That's.
Mackinac Island is separate.
Oh okay, it's just a Mackinac Bridge.
That's an island.
There's no bridge to the island, there's no cars.
You either swim or, you know, take a kayak A lot of kayaking up there too, yeah, good stuff.
A lot of kayaking.
So you could paddle board Well let's talk cars.
Let's do that, you start.
I was trying to get to the cars on the bridge but, you know, nobody picked up on it.
Nobody picked up on the segway.
What kind of cars do they?
allow in that bridge.
Yeah, alrighty.
Well so I'm going to say Jessica is not going to join us on trying her one more time.
Well, I tell you I've got some stuff, if you want to keep going with that.
You wanted to.
Uh, yeah, won't you roll some of that out there while I try her one more time?
real quick.
You know I got a.
Is there an electric car?
Uh, no, pass on the bridge.
What?
Do you mean Just saying, what if we broke down and caught fire on the bridge?
That'd be a big problem.
No, I don't think that.
I think there's.
You're allowed to go over.
If I'm not mistaken, nobody would have been wondering.
Yeah, but you gotta think about that, though they haven't thought about that yet.
I bet you.
But if you take an electric car over, do you have a station to plug in?
Not really.
I didn't see one up there, or you're on an island yourself.
You go to one, you go to the UP and then you go.
You float over your island.
Yeah, David owns an island.
I never saw a charging station in the UP Just saying it's a business you should start up there David's charging.
Oh yeah, we got a guest coming up that can help you do that.
Yeah.
David's charging system.
What we can buy into a charging station.
No he built them and he built one out in West Texas for a commercial application.
Hey, I got a name for it.
Up yours, uper.
Right there, yeah All right, all right, put it up on.
Yeah, take it away, jeff, what do?
you want to hear?
What do you want to hear?
The latest, greatest I got.
We're way ahead, you got some news out there.
I got news.
Let's do this news.
This is from automotive news.
Don left this for me, so hopefully I'll muddle through it.
Hopefully there's no words from like Germany or things that you do.
No, I always do.
I always find the obscure names to get Jeff to read.
So this is use car shoppers who want to purchase a late model vehicle for under $20,000.
We'll need a time machine.
Four years ago, the sub $20,000 car made up nearly half of the options in a pool of one to five year old used car inventory.
Those vehicles now make up a scant to 12%, according to an iccarscom Used vehicle pricing study published this month.
Iccarscom, a vehicle search engine, a data research company, found that the average price of a one to five year old vehicle jumped 48% Conrad to 34, 491 in 2023 to 23, 351 in 2019.
So it went up $11,000.
The company said its study analyzed more than 10.8
million of the one to five year old vehicles sold between January and July of 2019 and January and July of 2023.
So they're going up.
Stand by, get you all it out and Jerry Emmons talked about that a little bit last week, about how there's a sweet spot of the used car market and that's where they really try and carry a big inventory of.
That's the sweet spot or price range.
I guess it used to be under 20.
I bet you now it's probably pushing 25 to 30 is where that sweet spot is.
Here's another one.
This one's out of Detroit, or Detroit as we call it.
Hybrid gasoline electric vehicles may not be dying as fast as some predicted in the auto sector's rush to develop all electric vehicles.
Ford Motor Company is the latest of several top automakers, including Toyota Motor Corporation, chrysler parent Stellantis planning to build and sell hundreds of thousands of hybrid vehicles in the US over the next five years.
That's an industry forecast by Reuters.
The companies are pitching hybrids as an alternative for retail and commercial customers who are seeking more sustainable transportation but not to be ready to make the leap to a full electric vehicle.
Now, we've talked about that before.
Don's a fan of that with the hybrid?
I'm too.
We all are the fan of the hybrid stuff which you get the same gas mileage, but you're also being eco-friendly.
Yeah, well, you get a portion of electric propulsion Right and then, if you need be, you can run on a gas motor.
An interest in hybrids is rebounding as customers' consumer demand for pure electric vehicles has not accelerated as quickly as expected.
Surveys cite a variety of reasons for the tepid EV demand, from high initial costs and concerns about range and lengthy charging times and the shortage of public charging stations.
David, there you go.
Well you're going to be building them.
They still have the problem, though, of spontaneous combustion and flames.
They don't talk about that, yeah it depends on who you talk to.
Well, we're going to have some guests on in the next month or so.
That has a different view of that, because they're out in the real world.
That you know but the government's trying to force EVs on us, and you know, anything the government forces you to do generally doesn't make sense, and somewhere in that equation is money for those who are forcing you to do it.
So but there's less battery, so there's not the potential for big of fire.
You mean on a hybrid?
It's a different kind of battery too, is it?
Yeah, it's, it's.
Well, yeah, it's not just a different kind of battery, but it's.
The batteries aren't bigger in a hybrid because they're shorter run.
You know, most, most hybrids will get you 30 to 50 miles on battery power and then you switch over to ice internal combustion engine power and depends on the hybrid.
Some of them, the ice motor drives a generator and you still run electrically, which is what a Chevy Volt does.
See, I like that idea.
I like that.
I like that idea because you're using the energy not only to move the vehicle, but you're using the excess energy to load up that battery for future.
Sure, and then you know and then they have regenerative braking.
So instead of braking on brake pads and rotors and stuff, you brake on the electric motor is what decelerates you.
Just don't use your brakes.
And well, and as you do that, that adds charge back to the battery as well.
So you know there's lots of technology out there.
Most of it is pretty well vetted.
I don't think it's all well vetted.
I think the biggest problem right now with EVs is the dependence on China for components for the battery.
You know the lithium and cobalt China's out there and this is probably close to a year ago.
We had the guy come on that was from Spain, from Spain talking about cobalt mining.
He was yeah, he was in the manufacturing actually running mines to produce those.
And he was how China has been buying up all the cobalt mines in Africa and so they're trying to control that part of it.
And of course then you get you get dependent on China for things, and that's not good.
Yeah, he looks like.
Looks like we got somebody coming on there, mike.
Well, this is our next guest and the next segment is joining us a little early, okay, well, good.
Because the first segment guest didn't join us at all.
And she's.
She's not going to bake it.
Well, Don's watching.
We could get him on.
Hey, Don, call in.
Call the hotline.
Well, we appreciate George Skelton coming on.
He's one of our regulars, george, and George had shared some early photos of Don and a conversation with chat GP whatever it was, yeah.
Yeah, so you have some of the.
AI.
Yeah.
We're not going there.
And he researched on there and found him and it's not do that interesting stories and most of it not true.
Fortunately.
But yeah, yeah, I'm not getting a response from him, or our first guess.
So we're going to have 100 this morning.
I go on.
I got a funny here, right, okay, again.
This is why the UAW leaders want 46% rate.
Don't go there, conrad, please.
Sean Fain, president of UAW since March, has declared war on Detroit's three automakers with contract demands that even he calls audacious.
That's a big word, including proposals for 46% raise, return to traditional pensions of 32 hour work week.
Now the 54 year old who began work as an electrician at a Chrysler casting plant in 1994 is threatening to take his 150,000 UAW members out on strike If he doesn't have contracts with motor motors, ford Motor Company and Chrysler parent Stalantas by September 14th deadline, the UAW could strike all three simultaneously, something that's never been done in the past and Ford has made an offer to the UAW which is, I
think, pretty lucrative, with a guaranteed raise over a period of time.
That you know and Ford in the past has always led the labor union portion of the auto industry.
You know they were the first ones to go with a 40 hour work week and such.
So you know, and I'm sure strategically Ford is looking at how can they make an offer that works within their financial structure.
That'll do, I mean, ultimately do the most damage possible to Stalantas and General Motors.
That's kind of how the game is played in the UAW is just I want more.
Well, even even what is considered a generous offer from Ford, UAW said not interested.
Well, they also filed suit against Stalantas and GM because they were not negotiating.
They're not negotiating.
Good faith in the course, no they never do, but they never do.
But they're gone and filed a lawsuit against it with the Labor Relations Board.
So yeah, because if they can't win what they want in negotiation, they want to win it in the courts.
Here's what I see, on that, back in the Jimmy Hoffa days where I grew up and you grew up in those days, that when the labor unions, the labor leaders, were making the money and they were just giving the bits and pieces and shreds of particles to the union itself.
Nowadays it's all for the worker and less on.
They're still making money, they're still grafting or whatever Sure Criminal element there is.
I guess, mr Hoffa, that's different now.
Jimmy Hoffa is in section 106 of the of the Meadowlands football stadium.
Well, allegedly he was in one of the bridges there's a part of him over there and a part of him over here.
I think I saw him at HEB last week.
I don't know.
But that's, that's, but I, you know, let him strike.
You know, because you talk about destroying the American economy.
The auto industry has ultimately been, my opinion, through years, the savior of the American economy.
Think about it.
After and I was working for GM at the time after a 9-11 happened, the American economy was very much in struggle, and that's when General Motors came out with their 0% interest for 60 months the first time and that kind of helped revive, revive the American auto industry.
But it also revived the American economy.
It had also revived General Motors, Well, to a point, you know, and then now it's being destroyed, Don't?
Well, I just don't know.
I don't know any time we need to reel him in on that.
Yeah, any time a company takes and goes and spends billions of dollars on research for products that are not consumer driven, there's going to be problems.
And now you've got all three of the big three doing that.
What are they?
researching, you mean on the EV side of things.
Yes, well, yeah, because now they're saying the EV days inventory is over a hundred days inventory.
So it's.
I've always said it's never a consumer driven product.
You know there's people that want it, great, build it and sell it, but there's other factors that are causing it, and so whenever you start spending that kind of money, then you are going to have an impact on the national economy and you always get you know, when they released the latest EV, you always get that surge of early adopters because I look at buzz as being an early adopter of EVs you know you get that surge of sales.
So when the Ford Lightning first was announced, you know they sold out 200,000 vehicles in minutes and they still haven't delivered all 200,000.
And they recall 300,000.
Or there is that, but you know, so that's.
That's.
The problem is, those early adopters have all purchased their vehicles and now a lot of these EVs are languishing on dealer lots and the batteries are going bad.
Well, they sit there.
My opinion.
My boss drives a three, drives a Chessel three and he loves it.
You know, I think the people that he doesn't go on long trips with it, it's just his daily stuff around.
He goes to sugar land, works in Rosenberg, owns the business there and he, you know, and that's and that's the way to own an EV.
Yeah, there really is Is in an urban setting.
So on one of the clubs that I follow on the Facebook forum, there's one of the guys that's driving his EV.
He's taking a long trip.
I mean he's going out to West Texas, swinging him back around up through Oklahoma and stuff, and he laid it out because of the way the charges have to.
Yeah, he has to, and you know, but he's using charges.
He's only there 20 to 30 minutes and you get Willie to do a song about West Texas Town of El Paso and getting there in an EV.
Yeah, yeah, they happening.
But I was looking at he was talking off his mileage and stuff and how many times he had to stop to go to the mall.
So I'm thinking my truck I would, I can do that without stopping period and he's spending, you know, 45 minutes to an hour to do what I don't even have to stop for.
Moving on your, your GPS in your car.
When we travel, we use the GPS and it shows restaurants, gas stations, parks, rest areas nothing on there that I saw had EV station or Well if you're driving an.
Ev it does.
Well, yeah, if you're driving an EV, Yep, we're going to do that.
Yep, all right.
Well, so let's let's move along to something else that's a little more interesting, like the race card.
Well, in this, the in real time race card is sponsored by the Texas Texas Texas Nostalgia Modified Production and we really appreciate those guys.
If you want to go out and watch some fun racing, you go out and find the Texas Nostalgia Modified Production.
It is fine.
Because they leave on the clutch, and that's one of the things that they talk about.
It is true, my opinion, true drag racing, as opposed to you know what you see on TV, all these guys that are leaving on a button and and yeah, you got to leave on the clutch and you got to shift it yourself.
There's no speed, three speed automatic transmissions.
Yeah, on these you know it's, it's leave on the clutch and you got to shift, you got to row through the gears.
So you got to counter and we're going to have a Kevin Hall is going to be here, our guests later on, and we're going to talk about their, their run to their championship race in a few weeks.
And then.
So this weekend is the U S Nationals at Indy and HRA is at the U S Nationals Next weekend.
There the start of the championship series is they're going to be at Maple Grove, Darlington, tomorrow for NASCAR, and then on a on a September 10th they're going to be in Kansas, and then on September 16th they're going to be Saturday night race in Bristol and then on a September 24th they're going to be up at Fort Worth, Texas.
Jeremy LaWon is at the forget about it Grand Prix this weekend, the Italian Grand Prix, and that's always good because they're at Monza this year and that's just such a fun, fun race track to watch people run on.
And then then they're in Singapore on the 17th, and then Japan on the 24th, and then October they come back to circuitty, the Americas, and I think it's November there at Las Vegas for the first time in Las Vegas, and and and then Indy Imps is at the Indy Road course on September 17th.
Indy cars, September 10th are at Laguna Seca.
Jeff, you got something for us about the auto junkyards?
Yeah, I do.
I just needed to let you know that it was kind of rushing you along.
But here we go with this.
How about that?
Junkyards largest in America.
The US is home to some of the biggest, largest junkyards in the world.
Whether you are into cars, trucks, motorcycles or planes, there's something on this list for you.
While many folks gravitate to the yards for their restoration project in old parts, these junkyards are amazing sites.
They actually have been called tourist destinations.
Many of these places do give tours.
These are the largest auto junkyards in the US, which are most exciting.
Check it out.
You pick your favorite.
Here's 10 of them.
We're gonna go run through these kind of quickly.
There you go.
Look at that.
This is French Lake Auto Parts in Minnesota.
Are you looking for a great junkyard near Minneapolis?
Then French Lake Auto Parts is it.
It is situated 60 miles west of Minneapolis and has been open for more than 50 years.
That's a good sound check.
In terms of size, the junkyard has over 100 acres and over 10,000 vehicles, and there's one of them right there.
This one is Wildcat Auto Wrecking in Oregon.
Wildcat Auto Wreckers has a heavy focus on Chrysler parts and vehicles and is located in Sandy, oregon.
Wildcat Auto Wrecking is the only Mopar specific junkyard in the Pacific Northwest, so if you're a Mopar fan, add on up there.
They got something for you.
This next one is CTC Auto Ranch in Texas.
Just an hour north of Dallas, in Denton, texas, you will find CTC Auto Ranch.
Ctc Auto Ranch is one of the most popular junkyards in the world of America.
I've been there, yep, with good reason.
Ctc Auto Ranch ships parts nationwide and you should check out the drone footage on their website.
I looked at it a little bit.
You're gonna like it.
It's pretty cool the breathtaking to see how many vehicles they have on the ground there.
Yep.
And look at that.
There's all kinds of stuff for you.
The next one is Turner's Auto Wrecking in California.
Turner's Auto Wrecking has a vast 100 acres of vintage car parts.
This junkyard dates back to 1928 and has been featured in Hot Rod Magazine.
They ship anywhere in the US and you should pay a visit to this in person to get the full experience there you go.
A lot of stuff to look at there.
Next one is All Bike Salvation in Arizona.
In June of 2013, mike All Bike Salvation yard suffered a massive fire and it destroyed almost 9,000 bikes that they had in stock.
And while it is challenging to build that amount of stock back up, all Bike Salvation is back on the map today, still doing business.
That's pretty amazing.
This next one you see that there's a lot of airplanes and stuff going on.
I got to turn my page Two Sonners on it.
Yep, it's been there, it's Pinnell Airpark, arizona.
If bikes and cars aren't your thing, then you're going to find this place incredible.
Pinnell Airpark is where many airplanes go to die.
Most have never flown either.
Sadly, due to financing, there are many brand new planes just sitting in that yard.
And they strip them down for parts to keep the current fleet flying Yep In those cases.
Absolutely right, you've got the Corvair Ranch in Pennsylvania Done.
Most often, if you hear the world, if you hear the world, gettysburg you're more likely to think of the Civil War in Abraham Lincoln.
However, you should also consider this as a Corvair enthusiast, evan, although the junkyard does host multiple different car bodies.
There are more than 600 Corvairs on the lot, lucky guy.
And I'm going to skip to the last one here, which is the Old Car City USA.
Oh, we got it.
We're just going to go on Old Car City USA.
If you're looking for the number one most famous junkyard in the world, then Old Car City USA is it.
It is situated in White Georgia and it has numerous things going on.
They actually have senior pictures taken in that junkyard.
Yeah, very nice.
Ok, I've got to get out of this.
Give me another 30 seconds.
Yeah, we talked a little bit earlier about the salvage yards there on 249, just west of 45.
And those are all insurance salvage yards, but there's a couple of hundred acres of vehicles there as well.
All right, Thank you, Jeff.
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About this episode
Exploring the intersection of AI and the automotive industry, this episode features Jessica Gonzalez from Informed IQ discussing how AI is tackling dealer fraud. The hosts dive into the largest salvage yards in the U.S., highlighting their unique offerings and tourist appeal. Additionally, the episode covers the latest in racing events and automotive news, including insights on hybrid vehicles and the ongoing UAW negotiations. With engaging banter and expert opinions, it’s a lively discussion for anyone interested in the evolving automotive landscape.
Original notes
On this episode of In Wheel Time Car Talk, our discussion takes a look at the rising prices of used hybrid cars. Are they becoming a luxury for people looking for cars under $20,000? We're shedding light on how Ford and Toyota are championing these vehicles as a suitable alternative to electric cars. We're sparking a debate on the potential for spontaneous combustion in electric and hybrid vehicles and assessing our reliance on China for essential battery components.
Finally, get ready for a virtual expedition to the largest auto junkyards dotted across the US. From the chilly French Lake Auto Parts in Minnesota to the green Wildcat Auto Wreckers in Oregon, we uncover the captivating tales behind each one. We recall the fire that razed almost 9,000 bikes at All Bike Salvation and share other unique experiences. As the cherry on top, we invite you to join the InWheelTime Car Talk family and engage in our live Saturday morning shows or catch up through our Apple Podcasts episodes. Happy listening!
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