Allow Us to Reintroduce ourselves

All right, what's up?

This is Nick Carlton, Wild Stallion's groupie, I guess that's what I am, here with Derek Long,

the founder of the Wild Stallion's, since the last time we did a podcast interview, I was

two, three years ago.

Two years ago, I don't remember who interviewed you in that segment, but I think they were unprofessional.

I'd like to say that something I'll have to take up with past Derek, future Derek is

not going to be taking questions about that at this time.

Yeah, you guys are real dead.

So, since that time, we have grown quite a bit.

How many followers do you think we had back then?

Back then, we were in the, we were still less, well, I think over year one, when we

did those, we were sitting around a hundred, and to think now that we're at 1.3, and

it was like, wow, how can we get past that hundred follower mark?

It was like, and they give you little tools, it's like dangling a carrot on a string, like,

hey, you can use this tool if you get more followers.

I thought, man, I just need to get past that hundred, and that was three years ago now.

I was going to say it took us quite a while to get past, get past the hundred follower mark,

and then.

Then it's just snowballed, like, it couldn't be, you know, when we asked for it last year,

it was an unfathomable amount of growth that, I mean, we were grateful for.

I mean, that was an amazing push in that time.

Right, so with us growing, and really all we had to do was ask, just ask a bunch of our friends

to follow us, and all of a sudden, it's weird, funny how that works.

But since that time, we keep getting various questions asked and stuff, so we are heading

into season four this year, and it is shaping up to be a pretty big year, right?

Another great year, I mean, I like our continuous growth, our, you know,

putting roots down and really growing with it, you know, base upward from there,

and we got some good content coming with what I'm trying to look at for what's coming up.

I mean, we got great builders, we got all that, but the likes break apart on some of these stories,

and like really elaborate what we're trying to do in these scenarios.

I mean, I think we'll be having a lot to do more with that this year.

Hopefully growth stays, you know, consistent, but you know, if it doesn't, it doesn't.

I'm happy with everything that we've gotten so far, and it's just a blessing to this point.

So, I mean, let's just rock it out with what we got, and we're going to be

putting that one hell of a show this year, I'll say that.

Right. Well, since we've got a lot of new followers and stuff, I thought it would be

a good idea to just kind of go over, reintroduce ourselves, kind of explain what

Wilde Stallions is all about, what this competition is all about.

That is what we're doing today as well as going to be talking about

what we have coming up this next year with season four and everything that goes into that.

Well, let's just start off with just some questions that we get asked every now and then.

What inspired you to create this competition? You are the founder of this competition.

The founding idea behind this was, well, there's a couple of different thought

processes. One of them was getting out of the daily routine of going to work, coming back,

just not knowing what to do, and always dabbled in motorcycles, but never really pushed forward.

So, it was one of those like, not only is this something that I wanted to do for a while,

it will also push me. And if it's going to push me to make a bike, because what's going

to make me get something done but having everybody that I could possibly know keep their eyes on it

at the same time, maybe other people want to take this ride with me. And, you know, okay,

let's put together like a show where it shows more of the build and how you got to the show

and not just the finished product. How did you get there in the process to the final

product that everybody gets to come and vote on? You know, that's our stories. And, you know,

I just wanted to see if there was other people in the area. I mean, this area for,

you know, Michigan in the Midwest region, it's like we put, you know, manufacturing

to its standards that it is today. We put people on four wheels, more or less than two,

but Milwaukee's not that far away. And if you think about it, I can't think of one,

hey, let's meet up and like really show what we're building out in this area. And I'd like to,

you know, but there's those people that are out doing it. So if there's people out there

doing it, and I'm doing it, maybe I can, you know, bring them all together and we can do it

on this scenario. And at the end, you know, we got a bike that we can build with the

story that we went through it with, you know, the whole thing, you know, as a competition,

but we've always geared it more towards a competition that is, yeah, you want help,

you need help, I'll help you. And oh, we have that group chat that it's like, hey, I can't

find this or I need help with this. And it really helps, even though you're in competition,

but at the same time, you're not because I'd like to see anybody that comes into this finish

and then everybody that we brought on to do this point, they've been the same way.

You know, let me help you figure it out. Let me see if I can help you. Hey, maybe I'll have a part,

you know, and that's great. And that's the community that I'd like to explore more and put

more highlights on and put more of a spotlight in people helping the other people together get

to that finish line and what it took to be able to get there. It is a very, very friendly

competition. I will absolutely give you that. It's part of the fun about it is the group chat and

everyone sharing ideas and whatnot. Well, I think at one point, we had talked,

and you had said that you've been looking for a competition like this or something to highlight

and really showcase garage builders in the area. And there wasn't really anything in the area,

and that's kind of why you decided to... In this mid-weds region, I can't think of like,

hey, let's get together, let's build bikes to be able to get to a show, to be able to do

it. There's nothing in the area that way. And I felt that why isn't there? You know,

like I said, we did those manufacturing things and all that, and there's people with all that,

and there's... I've been around the Midwest and known people and stuff like that for motorcycles

for a long time. And there's people doing it, but we're going to other shows out of states.

You know, I went to the horse smoke out when I was 18 with Rob Van Gorder,

and it was, wow, that's a huge show. That's great. Let's go. But it was four states away.

And you know, the only great show that I can really put my fingers on in this region would be,

I love the damn show. Randy does a fabulous job with that. And like,

but this focus on the builder and not just a overall, let's gather a bunch of people that ride

motorcycles. I'd really, and I think a motorcycle, you know, customization as one's personal art on

top of just a form of transportation. Now, when you think of it that way and stuff that people

have been doing the motorcycles, it's an art. And when people put their self into something,

in this case, their ride, their motorcycle, I'd like to open those, you know,

I don't think I can do it, but I, you know, I'd like to push that person to do it.

So then we can be like, wow, look at what they did, you know, and that's, you know,

kind of the part there, you know, I want it in the whole thing too. Like, let's bring these people

together that are in this region. And you know, they might not think of it, but I've met people

that do maintenance and other things that are just geniuses when it comes to like, mechanics

and able to do things. But like, they think it's just normal stuff to them. But it might not be to

some other people. So I mean, with being able to go like, Hey, you're actually, you're killing it,

buddy. You need to get out there and show people that you can do this. Don't be ashamed of it. Go

ahead. Right. Like, be able to push that big goal beyond that, be able to show them that

they can do that. I mean, look at us three years ago, what were we going to do? I mean,

okay, we're coming on year four. Like, what were you doing fucking four years ago?

And that's, I mean, I was holding fingers and sitting at home. I mean, yeah, I was out and

about, but I wasn't really, we're pushing myself. And it was like, okay, well,

I'm going to push myself, let's push others. And together we can push each other.

So then file salience is kind of the grounds of being able to bring those people together and push

it. And you know, we all come out with a great outcome in the end. I mean, it's a competition

of oneself. It's not a competition of people pitted against other people. It's a competition

of being able to get this bike done in the time period that we need from January to

the show. And we all get to that point still where it's like, oh man, we got three days to get this

thing done, even though it's like that. But other people are not building bikes in seven and a half

months. So I mean, it becomes a competition of, hey, how does one get it done while working,

taking care of one's family, being able to support oneself

and still get to the show? That's a story.

That is. And that's part of the appeal to this. To me, at least is the stories behind it. And

I'm just the, I don't know what to say.

You know, the people pushing themselves and the real human aspect to it. You know, a lot of us,

I think Jay's got a shot, but most of us don't have a shot. You know, we're all working out

of our garages. So that's one of the coolest. I won't take anything away from that because

I've had the scenario where people are like, oh, but it's shot. Oh, but it's garage. You know what?

I don't care if it's somebody in the shed and we've already done that. So,

you know, if it's somebody in a shed, somebody in a shop, I don't care who you are,

you got to put yourself into it and put that project forward. Now, that person in that shed

might just have some killer idea that they're ready to unleash. Whereas the people in the shop,

hey man, it gets repetitive. It gets, hey, we're building this. This is our style. This is what we

do. We're just going to show what it is and which is fine. But

like you said, it gets repetitive. Franklin can build a bank as much as anybody that's got a shop now.

You know, and I mean, just because it's a shop, I don't think that the, I mean, I've seen,

I've seen people do more with hand tools than some people with, you know, tools that they can go

and run and lay the mill and stuff. If there's a will, there's a way and they're going to

get it done. Now, to be able, I don't care if you have a multi-million dollar CNC machine and you

have bolt-on parts that you're making for your big wheel bike, I'm going to gravitate more towards

that dude that ground everything out on, you know, his shop, you know, he's got a table and he's

cutting stuff with a grinder and it's not perfect, but man, that's fucking cool. Hold on. You know,

I'd rather be towards that, you know, and those are the people who are like, oh, well, you know,

it's not a shop. It's not that. I don't give a fuck. Come on now. You can build something in

your garage. It might, you know, be something that would blow people's minds and stuff. I

don't think anybody's going to be like, I needed that to be built in a shop for me to think

it's cool. So, I mean, it's all on, you know, that perception of like what it is, but unless

the people are really far apart, you know, Jim and John are going to know two differences when

they come walking around the bikes on, you know, our final day, you know, unless they are like

in the industry or no bikes or do that. I mean, two common core fork. I mean,

I think we could put something out of my garage that could, you know, be as quality as anything

that you could do that with, you know, same out of your aspect or anything else. It's all on the

vision. Yeah, absolutely. But how has the vision for the competition evolved since the first

season? Like what, what's really, what do we change?

Can't say nothing much. I mean, besides the exposure that we had, I mean, it's real pretty

much the same platform that has been thought about since the beginning, the same moving gears

and everything's all pretty much the same. I was going to say, I can't really think of how

anything's changed. I mean, other than we've grown, the first year we had four bikes,

the second year we had, I mean, 12, 12, I mean, 13 right now coming for, you know,

26. So we ain't, we ain't slouching, I mean, but I don't see anything like the moving gears are

still there. It's all the same. Still the premise, still the same idea was where we started the

same concept. It's how do you elaborate and kind of show that to other people?

That's, how do you decide the rules and limitations for the builders each season? I

think it's kind of changed almost every year, hasn't it?

I mean, we put a baseline kind of, this is how we'd like to see it, but I mean, like,

well, we haven't had to like really run into those like people like, oh, but it's just a

little bit outside of the rule. I mean, it's something that's carbureted, that's, you know,

not going to be, I mean, we run with a vintage motorcycle show for our final,

you know, finale. So I mean, it's 15 years. When you talk 15 years, you're not even talking

like getting into that long ago. We're 15 or 25. I mean, I'd like it 25, but I, you know,

you get into those little loopholes where, you know, then you had the damn Hanna shadow that's

past that time, but it's still carbureted, you know, set up a basic Bayer bones, you know,

something you can work with scenario. I mean, I don't want people, you know, programming and,

you know, stuff into their bikes and, you know, AI features that are, you know,

making it so it wobbles as it gets pushed into the damn thing. But

right in what you bring, show us what you wanted to bring. You know,

it's not a that's something that I guess we can elaborate on there. I mean, we ain't looking

for choppers. I mean, that's what we like. That's what we're building. But I mean,

it's not the only build that I'd love to see it's something that's, you know,

just something I like. But I mean, you bring whatever motorcycle and whatever vision you think

that you're going to do, but that's just it's more the lack of four wheels and, you know,

motorcycles are the expression of one self that we're really looking for. And if that's not a

chopper, that's, you know, rat style, speedster, some crazy something, you know,

was kind of like a cafe racer last year. Yeah. So I'm just, you know, like,

that was something that I would like to, you know, put more on because only certain people

could see that it was the other engine in the setup that for the frame and year, you know,

not everybody sees that. I mean, but I mean, it was a build. He built

the scenario to be what it was. And in, you know, Max fashion, he came with the lunchbox last

year. I mean, he liked it. He loved it. He loved it. He loved it.

Oh, what do you hope every builder walks away with after participating?

Unity. Yeah. A sense of unity that pride that they put forth themselves and they, you know,

took a journey with somebody else, you know, if that be somebody that's just trying to

highlight something that they do on the regular as in a shop or somebody that's really stepping

outside of their comfort zone to really put themselves out there and build a motorcycle.

And it's not really something that they really thought they could do. I mean,

that's what I want. Like, okay, yeah, I was pushed a little bit. Well, I'll push you. That's

going to be a thing. But I want to see the person succeed. And that's why I'm pushing them.

And, you know, I think everybody could deal with a little bit of gentle. Hey,

let's get back at it, buddy. I hope everyone has, you know,

a good time when they're doing it. They really enjoy it and enjoy the process and

enjoy pushing themselves down to the wire. That's, that's always pretty intense last

month or so.

We see all the activity right in the, the June to August, you know, scenarios. And, you know,

it's like, it's funny because in those first couple of months, it's like everybody's just

planning and doing and, you know, it's, well, I haven't really got too far. I don't know what

to give you. And that's where I'd like to explore more of that human side of the story.

You know, why are you getting a thing done? What are you planning? What do you think you see?

And, um, kind of go and, uh, hey, yeah, I know that, that, you know, put forth in the motorcycle,

but, you know, what happened in that time period? Maybe something did happen. Maybe,

you know, we've had even traumatic events in that first year was a roller coaster.

Oh, man. But, you know, I, you know, how, why, you know, but that's a story. I mean,

that's what, you know, I hope with everything we're doing this year, we can really elaborate on,

you know, because I feel that there's some things that, uh, we could have really expanded on,

uh, like last year and stuff like that. And we had people that had different, uh,

aspects of how they approached the build. We had Chris, he put the bike together and then

he rode it to multiple different shows. And then we had others that, I mean, we went all the way

till the end. I mean, I had some events happen that really took from getting to the end,

but I still got to the end. My bike was still there and we didn't, we weren't able to be

able to go through that unless if like, and people really think, oh, I need this

bike to be front and foremost in this story, but it doesn't because the bike is part of what

you're creating to get to this thing. Now, if you're creating a bike to get to the show,

what is it taking? That's, I mean, that's also, it's an important is what you're bringing

to the end of the show. So that is the human aspect that I'd hope that we can really get into

to show what it takes to get to the show, the process, the steps you had to take.

Some of us went through a lot of good, bad and other during that time period. And

this is what came out of that. This is the muse that that scenario pushed me to build. This is

the motorcycle that came out of that. Right. Well, what's, what's the hardest part of putting on

competition like this? There's part about putting competition through this is everybody

believe in that we're all getting to the end. Yeah. You know, and I thought for sure you're

going to start getting updates from people is going to be the hardest thing about putting a

competition on like this. That's part of it, but it's all part of that getting people to

believe that they can get to the end because when people start doubting themselves and they

start wondering if they're going to put in an update, then you start, hey, we need that.

Hey, we need to keep going. And, you know, some people are right on it. Some people are,

I don't know what I want to put, and I don't know how I want to word it. And maybe this is

going to be harder than I thought. So it's, it's getting the updates, but it's getting

the people to believe that not only that you all together, we're going to get to the end.

And I mean, I'd like everybody comes in to be like, okay, I know it might be hard. It might be

a push. It might be that we'll also be here trying to support that issue. Because like I said,

everybody, I want everybody to be at the end. You know, I hope everybody comes on. That's

kind of a rapport that I'd like to keep this said everybody in that group chat. Everybody

that's pushing is pushing everybody to be better. You got a moment from previous season

that really sticks out with you. We had one hell of a season under last year where we had

two bikes get worked on in the square. And we didn't know if we were going to be counting the

votes or not counting the votes for those two scenarios because it does have to be a running

bike scenario. Now, you know, it needs to be running when it gets there. But if you're

actively working on it when you get there, just like we've seen them doing, we let that scenario play

out. We ended up canceling out one vote, but you know, one vote count, but it was a real attention

for people to go over and gravitate towards Rissa trying to get that bike going. When

bikes are working on the other bike, it was kind of like, okay, we're going to see if these

two are getting voted in or we're just kind of having to cap them off. And that was, you know,

even we had a, we had the camera guy there come over from the news station and he stuck around

so long, he said, because he was he was invested. I need to know if that bike's going to run.

And he was like, Hey, well, so I'm going to stay here for a while. This is your setup here,

right? So why don't I interview you on what's kind of going on here. And that's how that

interview happened that we were on the news there for the show last year.

Yeah, I was going to say, Marissa and Wendy working on their bikes last year was really

a cool moment. And Wendy got hers going and what happened with Marissa? She blew

something out of the oil bag and puked oil. Yeah, the oil. She must have had a lot of

pressure on the crank or something because it like she didn't have some vent and it blew out.

And I don't know how what the oil level was, but when it gained pressure, it went all over the

place. I'm glad that we were able to get that cleaned up before anybody from the city

hopefully they don't watch this. Notice that we dumped oil all over there. Nice brick, a waso

founded and we never, because I'm not going to say it'd be wrong and then have somebody like,

No, I was 1877, but we are invited back this year, right?

Yeah, we haven't gotten into talks yet. But I mean, like,

uh, we are on track, let's say. Sweet. So how do you choose the judges, the sponsors and the media

partners? Judges is and always will be at my part as long as I do this, a general opinion of the

people that are around vote, a popular vote. We will never split a vote. We will never go ahead.

I mean, so ultimately our number one, our winner will be voted by the people who attend

the finale and their votes are counted at this spot in front of them while we're there.

Only way. So no industry insiders or legends or anything like that.

Um, we will, we are popular vote and we'll stay that way for anybody that's at the show

with a vote count in front of anybody that would like to see. We are an opened book

with everything in that scenario all the way to I let anybody that was in that scenario,

if they wanted to take tickets and hand them out to have people come and put them in buckets

to do so. Now this comes in the where I mean, I hope we never have anything that could be an

issue in that time, but we will always be as upfront, foremost and open as much as we can

on any kind of voting structure that we would ever have. And like if that person that wants to

you know, have their votes counted or count them in front of me or do any of that,

that's always a possibility because I will openly open anybody's bucket and let any of the other

builders do any of the vote counts as long as we all walk away from there knowing that those

any idea of scenario is squashed because I'm too prideful of a person to be cheating buddy.

I ain't gonna allow it to happen to anybody else. So, you know, I'd hope nobody would try to do

that because I'd be, I'd be a right, you know, now let me put it this way. I run this goddamn

competition and I've been three times out counted by anybody that's brought in. I'm happy with that

scenario. Now, if anybody were to cheat to put themselves out there, don't you think I might

have been able to take advantage of that over the last three seats? Right now,

saying that when I do, they're better now, you know, hey, how that happened,

he put, you know, no, no, because I ain't in it for that. I thought this come out,

camaraderie and bringing people together and show them they can do it. That's what I'm in for.

I don't know. I've lost three times. I voted for your bike last year. I thought, I thought what

you brought last year was killer. What about sponsors? How do you pick sponsors?

Sponsors are, you know, all people that are under roads is sponsored for live here.

Thunder roads right there. I'm going to display every single month. So right there right now,

we got Mike Drieger's karma put up on the cover for the Christmas edition. Hopefully,

you guys were able to grab one Thunder roads, Michigan. I'll say it once. I'll say it again.

Thunder roads magazine of Michigan, the best motorcycle magazine

period. Point case. So Thunder roads came with us from the beginning and we're going to

try to do everything. We're grateful and everything else is buddies that I kind of,

you know, I want to support them and how can we kind of do that? And this is like the only

way that I could also kind of do that is like, how do I promote somebody that's doing something

that thinks red, you know, and I can, you know, if they want to throw a shirt or they want to throw

a hat or they want to, you know, do as much publicity that I can throw in that, you know,

scenario as I can also, you know, is what we try to do. And that's, you know,

you know, it's, you know, it's also been a lot of, Hey, is there any way you can help? But

a lot of them are dead bread spend, you know, with me since thought process of this whole thing.

And I mean, if you ain't, you know, heard that, I think, you know, that's a red scenario before

this. Go check out that bread.com. And Nick's a great man. And he's one, you know, he helped

me out with a lot. So I mean, anything I could do to help him the same as anything

else to help me and help him. That's all I could care for. Nick's a very cool guy.

Very cool guy. Go, go buy Nick a PBR.

Oh, so yeah, so anyway, if anyone out there would like to be a sponsor, we are always

looking and accepting sponsorships. So get in touch with us either on our Facebook page,

Instagram page, YouTube channel, whatever you can find us, get in touch if you are interested in

sponsoring. Well, how do we, how do you feel this competition contributes to the motorcycle

culture as a whole? I wish we could put our name in the same sentence as motorcycle culture.

I mean, we're at Grassroots Motorcycle Build out the Miss West that's trying to promote everybody

that is in the area and, you know, focus on what we can do. And even get to the point where we could

be mentioned in that is a dream. But I mean, I think in the, a bit that we can say that we

do contribute, we bring the people that are in this area together to, you know, push themselves in a

show to really bring a motorcycle in that aspect is bring people together in Midwest. And that's,

you know, that's our area. Great, I agree. I think it definitely is,

I mean, I guess it's like you buy a red car and all of a sudden you're looking for red cars,

but you, we got into this and now all of a sudden you kind of see and run into other guys that

are building things. I mean, the internet's been great for that. You know, we got buddies all

over the place. I mean, that's great, too. I mean, like, well, like just, hey, everybody,

this is what we're doing and people reaching out. I mean, now we got great people in

different areas. I mean, you know, Josh, great Pittsburgh, check, we go Mansfield, Jeremy,

great dude, check. We go Cameron down North Carolina. I've already just like mentioned like,

hey, you know, what if I was in the area? Oh, swing by, you got a spot, you know, and that's

the, you know, scenarios that I'd like to really elaborate on. I mean, like,

we put this together just like, because it's what we're doing. And like,

now other people are like, Hey, yeah, that's cool. I mean, and we've gained, you know, those

friendships and those, you know, and I talked to Cam almost every single day now. I mean, like,

it's a great dude to me. And I'll even like, if I'm building it up, might be, you know,

I don't know about that. I'll shoot pictures out to these guys and they'll give me their

kind of idea on it. And I love that. I fucking love that. And that's like, a great thing that

has really helped form everything that we were doing right now. Right. Yeah, it's like I said,

the internet's pretty crazy where you just are able to meet these guys online, like me and you

bet online, you know, and you know, I posted that meme the other day. And I can believe it

is, you know, true is any word that I could say is there's more people that are pushing me to do

better on the internet that I have met in the last couple of years and people have known my whole

entire life. That's absolutely true because I mean, like, from the friendships and the stuff

that we've made over these last couple of years, I mean, like, some of those people

I'm talking to more than people I believe to be.

What's that F word? Fucked.

Fucked family. Family.

Family. That's it. Yeah. Close. Yeah. Close. Yeah.

Oh, what's what eventually what's one thing you want to add or change in a future season?

Oh, you know, I mean, we have talked about many bike belt brings some kids into the scenario

and really see, you know, I think that's like, I think that's really would be a

great next avenue for us is like the kids wanting to build with a parent in the scenario of like,

mom, dad, can you help me build a mini bike for many stallions and like that would be cool.

And like, it's kind of like bringing more of the family together to build a little bike to

have them put on. I mean, I think we could really work with that. And I think that's

something I would like to include is and then if they're building a mini bike now,

maybe they're building a really cool bike that's street legal in three to five years and

they're coming back around for wild stallions. And you know, like, I'm gonna think at this

time that like we are we can go on the way we are right now. We're going to end up,

we're going to have somebody let's say that has built before that's going to come back and build

again, or somebody in that aspect that built a mini bike when they were 10. And then here they are

building a chopper at 18. You know, maybe they're 15, 18, you know, they're coming back around for

the full builds, you know, serious and we're like, wow, look at what they did here and look at what

they're doing now. You know, that story is also going to be something that's going to be great

when we get and we if we can weather to that point to be able to show the catalog from where we were

and that person and that aspect of their building talent to be now building something that

is going to be a we're going to promote, we're going to show, we're going to do all that.

This is the same John Lane that built five years ago. And I think that story is going to be one of

the driving forces that we could aim for for a future, you know, because we can just have that

aspect happen in the scenario. I put, you know, I can wear, you know, tip my hat to that and,

you know, it's something to hang your coat on, buddy. So I mean, that's not even getting

rich and famous. I don't give a shit anymore. But you know, you know, if we're pushing somebody

to be better than what they were beforehand, and we're really showcasing what they're doing,

well, you know, being able to become like somebody, you know, I showed that people

fought along with. All right. That's what we stand. That's where we are. And that's who we are.

Yeah, I still think it'd be cool to do a season where it's adult and kid, not necessarily

father, son, mother, daughter or parent related, but like a two person team with, you know, an adult

and a kid building a bike. I think I have no rules. We have no rules against that.

I'm just saying make it like a point, a selling point of the show. I think that'd be cool as

shit. Just something to get kids out outside in the garage with a tool in their hand with

you know, dropping the Xbox controller, touching grass, whatever the kids are saying

nowadays. I think that'd just be awesome. I'm not keen on that one. I'm going to start using that.

Watching the grass. Oh, touch grass. Touch grass. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's what the kids are

saying. I don't know. Oldest shit. I mostly can't understand what you're saying because

he's mumbling. He's walking away from me. That's fucking dead. That's probably the gist of it.

Probably. I mean, in most of that, I think that's what it all is. It's just clever ways of saying

fuck you to somebody above you like your parents or authority. I don't, you know, I think that's

all we had it for when we were, you know, you got to love teenagers for you. So

do you see the competition expanding beyond its current format or location?

I mean, that's all. I mean,

we have personal visions on where we can go with this that we would aim for on that. Yes,

we have to be able. Are we able to say that this is the way that it will go? No. I mean, and just

like we are, we are now to where we were in year one. I mean, did we know that we were going

to be meeting the people going to the shows and doing the things like that in year one? No.

I mean, so I mean, it's all, and we're still learning the curve and trying to figure out

what we're doing. I mean, I guess like that's one of the things we're just kind of fumbling through

as we go. And I'm glad people are, you know, gravitating and, you know, kind of liking what

we're doing because I mean, we don't know what we're doing. And I think that's one of the

best things I've been repeating later lately is, you know, to think that anybody really

knows what the hell they're doing is like an absolute impossible fathom because really,

we're all just a bunch of people not knowing what we're doing, just trying to make it through.

Nobody, you know, can really plan out everything like that, you know, be like, oh, we're going to be

doing our, you know, a huge show in a couple of years gravitate, you know, putting people

in places that, you know, are great. No, I don't know that. And I mean, everything's,

well, we can do what we have with what we have, and we just keep growing and hopefully we'll be

able to be more of where we want to be in the future. And that's all we can really put our,

you know, on this point. Right. I think eventually having our own venue, rather than

sharing with the vintage show or kind of be at our own thing where

And if it gets to that point, I mean, also, I mean, Jim and, you know, everybody's been

fabulous, I mean, in that scenario. And I mean, we'll run that until like,

we're, oh man, we're bringing too many people to say he's getting pissed at us. But I mean,

that would be awesome. That's going to be the, okay, we're not going to be able to stay in

these boundaries anymore. You know, and that that's all going to have to be

We're going to have to really, you know,

know that that's going to work. And, you know, because the scenario that we have had has been

great. So I mean, I'll invite everybody to downtown Owasso until the downtown Owasso saying,

Hey, you guys are guys maybe pushing our boundaries a little bit of what we can allow

but there's also things that we're not able to do because we are on, you know, in that premise of

those, you know, certain things I'd like to add that, I mean,

we're not able to do, we can't do many bike races. We wouldn't be able to do that.

Insurance would never be able to cover that or be okay with the scenario. So I mean,

and that's going to be that case. Like, yeah, we really want to bring, we're already having people

build mini bikes to show we like them to run them around a track to really make sure they run.

And I wouldn't be able to put that together in what we have going on right now.

Right. Yeah, there's, there's not, not any room for that downtown or we're at.

And I mean, like, when we start really looking at a Midwest like center, I mean,

there's just my center where it's like our ultimate

place that we would end up being where we would say like that show.

And I like, I'd said it before, if there's anything that I'm going to be trying to do,

it will be a venue over a quantity and it's really going to be part of the draw, you know,

it's not going to be an open field or a parking lot we're putting bikes in.

I mean, just like the whole threesome that I love to go to Pittsburgh when we were in the,

you know, the old Forger, I mean, that was the destination.

And I, you know, I understand why it's not there.

And I think Kurt did a great job of finding a different location.

And I even, you know, I heard him say it in one time it was he had to make the move,

you know, but the, the foundry, he wasn't able to do certain things.

And I mean, but he put himself in another great scenario.

But I mean to take it and, you know, if, if Kurt would have went and went, oh, well,

I can't have it here.

So I'm going to go have it in a parking lot.

Then I mean, glory days would have lost its glory.

And I'm glad that somebody like Kurt that has the vision that he does was like able

to really find another great avenue for some of the show.

I mean, that's a fabulous show.

So I mean, like the watch it go from where it was, the watch it become, you know,

it's bigger now is it's a it's a grander event.

I mean, it just became better.

He didn't decline in his quality.

And I mean, that would be the same route that I would want us to take in that scenario.

We're not just trying to, you know, oh, this fits more people.

We want people to also come to a scenario for where we're at.

I mean, are we going to be able to provide entertainment or are we going to be able

to have people do more than just take three laps around the build bikes

and then go like, what are we going to do after that?

So I mean, it's really going to be a planned out scenario.

And I mean, but we're not, you know, as we sit here and talk,

we're we're not just the only people building this.

I mean, it's really a community kind of scenario because what everybody is kind of,

hey, it would be cool if we did, you know, if y'all did this or you did this.

I mean, we really take stock in that.

Like, you know, what could we bring to really make a better show

for out what we're trying to do?

And that's where any decisions will be made in that aspect.

Right.

Yeah.

We listened to any and all suggestions brought to us.

Oh, well, you brought up glory days.

So what, uh, what is in store for us for 2026?

You know, what, uh, what shows are we attending?

What a swap me three hitting up.

So that's where I think we're having a running calendar will really help us

because we're going to events.

We have events that we're going to go to also events that we'd like to promote

as we go through, you know, our talks and, you know, doing all that

and what we're going to do.

And that might be part of our story of what we had to go through

or we did during the time period of building the bike

that ends up at the finale in August.

So I mean, I know we're going to mumma tried.

We're going to be at other shows and stuff.

I mean, these things still a horse ranch.

I'm going to be trying to make to anything's under roads.

We're going to be trying to make to anything, you know, outside of that realm.

We're going to be going to party at the pen.

I mean, we're going to be at glory days.

We're going to have other shows in our general other, you know,

the region that we're going to maybe go to.

And that's where I really think that us breaking this all apart

and really, you know, doing more talking and doing

and showing what we, you know, the Midwest is about

and what we're going to try to do this year is going to be something

because we're not only going to go to mumma tried,

which is a world class, you know, scenario when it's right, you know,

it's one of the top five on the what I think people put on

in the United States in the year.

You got mumma tried.

You got your born free.

You got your glory days.

You got smoke out.

You got Sturgis.

And I mean, those are just a couple of the shows that I can think of.

But those are like, those are shows, buddy.

Those are, they really put stock into that because when I thought

party at the pan, I seen what they put in over in Idaho

and I knew that they were coming this way.

And it wasn't even about that there was going to be a gathering of people.

It was, I seen what their vision was for their show

and that it was at the Shawshank prison was, you know,

that was a killer setup, you know.

So, but I've seen what they put into their show and I call that a top,

you know, that's a top tier show right there.

And what I've heard, you know, Kurt just in our, you know,

conversations of passing, you know, of what he puts into his show.

Buddy, we need to rank ourselves up in what we're trying to do here

because those guys are a dedicated scenario.

And I mean, they really put for us a show.

So, like, their shows that we're going to be going to that are like that,

but then I might go and check out the local VFW bike night or, you know,

I might go with some of the bike nights that are put on

by Steel Horse Ranch or Thunder Roads.

And there might be some bikes there that are just killer

that somebody might just bring out every so often.

It's not the them, I'll show bike.

But, you know, I might want to put that, you know,

out there for other people to see and stuff like that

because you never know what kind of traction you can grab up,

something like that.

And, you know, if somebody's like, man, that's killer stuff.

That might be what that person needed to be like,

maybe I can kind of build a bike.

Maybe I can kind of, you know, put this fourth effort and stuff.

And when you think you can put forth an effort in something like

building the bike and, you know, if I could, we could even

take that scenario and build upon that because there's a lot

of people putting everybody else down and everything, you know,

I'm tired of that shit right now.

I want to try to build these people up and try to show them

that they can do and when they can do,

maybe they can do in another aspect of life.

So I mean, if you can show them that they can build a

motorcycle and we can, you know, push them along to do that,

what's it from taking that next step to being able

to go ahead and do that?

If you can go ahead and put yourself forth for a little bit,

and it is one of those, it's a funny thing.

I grabbed it from when we bought a zoo.

If you can put yourself out there for 30 seconds to act

the fool, you don't know what you can really change

that 30-second scenario into.

And you think about it, I can act full 30 seconds

and go ahead and go on.

But that 30 seconds might be what pushes that scenario

because it was 30 seconds that told me,

okay, I need to make this post.

That 30 seconds, I thought about it before I said,

hey, let's put a build competition together.

Before I clicked that, I could do that for 30 seconds.

I didn't think beyond that.

Yeah, that was it.

Here we are today, four years later.

I mean, anybody can do that, let's figure it out.

I mean, I'd like to push some, you know, scenarios forward.

Like when I did my sticker thing, which I'm getting back to,

I had some shit happen where it was like,

I kind of lost focus on that.

But I asked people for stickers and I'd send them back out

and I'll get them out.

It was whatever you're passionate about.

I don't care if it's motorcycles or not.

If you're passionate about that and you're passionate

about something, let me put that up on my sticker wall.

And I mean, this is just the way that we move forward

in that aspect is motorcycles.

And that's who we are.

So shows we'll be attending in 2026.

That was a long drawn out aspect of saying that we are going

to be going to other places and we'll have an open calendar

of events that hopefully that other people in the area might

know also want to attend and do stuff like that.

And like I said, if we can promote a show that,

you know, is bringing people together, I mean,

even if it's a little show at our show,

at their show, a big show.

That's what we're, you know, we're going to be doing too.

So is Scotty working on our calendar?

I don't know what he's got going on at the moment.

I haven't reached out today.

It's hard to, he's a third chef.

So it's kind of like RT, our RT guy, my brother Scotty,

is a third chef.

So it's like you probably have about now, but getting

everybody on the same schedule has been kind of a work of itself.

Yeah.

So what goals do we have for this year?

What goals do you have for this year for the competition?

Personal growth.

That's the only thing I ever going to try to aim for.

Oh, well, I can build my bike

a little bit better and get through that.

That's my goal.

Bringing the, that's my personal level.

And on a show level, you know, showing that, you know,

there's a collective of people that does their passion.

There's nothing other than anything else that

is any different than this passion any other.

So we're 2026.

We are going to be branching out a little bit more.

We are going to be, we started a YouTube channel.

And we're going to be posting content to that.

Really trying to up the Facebook page.

I believe we're trying to get, Derek says,

2,000 followers by the show.

I think that we can get

$2,000 by the end of the show.

We're at 1.3 right now.

I mean, so I'd like to, I mean, if we continue growth

and we look at that, I mean,

I think we can get by

2,500 by the end of the show.

That's what I'm going to shoot for.

Okay. You, I'll aim at two.

You aim at 2,500.

And I mean, we'll see.

We're at our finale day.

So I mean, let's put that into our,

our written things so we can come back to it.

It's, I'd say, and I'd be,

I'd be more than happy with 2,000.

You'd be like to push and I'll push all every day.

I think we can hit 2,500.

So we're shooting for that by the end of August.

I'm going to be uploading more content to Instagram,

to the Facebook page, to the YouTube.

We are also going to be going live weekly, correct?

We will be doing a weekly live.

And then pretty much it's going to be a lot of this

back and forth between me and Nick on topics.

And then maybe there will be people that will bring on

that have, you know,

and that's where we go back to the whole

personal aspect of it.

It's not just going to be people that are building motorcycles.

We're going to be talking to our builders

and hopefully elaborating on more of the stuff that they're doing

and stuff like that because some people can talk,

some people can not write.

So, and I mean, it's your own.

So I mean, if we can talk to the builder

and they can elaborate on that,

but at the same time,

if I wanted to bring on somebody that's passionate

about somebody else to showcase them,

or if they can, you know,

have any interest in what we're doing

and even just want to talk about it,

that's what we're going to be trying to do.

And that goes from anybody from, you know,

people that we know, the builders,

you know, when I have a conversation,

let's open the book.

Let's have a conversation about whatever you're,

you know, we want to talk about.

And I'm really excited about that aspect of it.

I don't want a definition of we're a podcast

that talks about this and this or this.

Just like the show, it's about just motorcycles

and put in your handlebars on today

and, you know, really figured out

how it was going to make that, you know,

break lineup where it should have,

because now I got a custom hardtail

that I'm putting onto this bike

where I built the frame

and it had no tabs for a break.

So, you know, that's what, you know,

we could be talking about on a weekly basis

and have you decided on what time you like?

So, I, yeah, we're doing it Wednesdays, right?

We're doing it Wednesdays and...

It's on Sunday, Wednesdays.

We're just going to do every Wednesday

and it will be on between the hours of 7 and 8

that we'll be doing in our lives.

So, I mean, let's just say that...

Are we starting at 7 or starting at 8?

Between 7 and 8.

I mean, we'll just be going live

between 7 and 8 every Wednesday.

Okay. I did about half an hour or so.

I don't like that fine definition of line

because, you know, just like that,

oh, man, my internet popped off

for, you know, 10 minutes wire.

Well, it's not 7, 10, you know?

Right.

Between 7 and 8.

We're going to go live every Wednesday

and I hope everybody follows along

and, you know, we'll have guests on.

Hopefully they want to hear what they're saying, too.

So, that's what we'll be doing.

Builder profiles, guests, podcasts.

Yeah.

Trying to encompass a little bit of all of that

and really, really grow this thing into something.

Yeah.

This is just one of the avenues that we can use,

the kind of more showcase,

more of the things we're doing.

I mean, so we might as well have all of them.

Like I said, if one person sees one little thing of it

and they think, hey, that's something

that I want to be a part of,

maybe Facebook, Instagram, whatever.

I mean, we've been more towards Facebook.

But that's just, you know, kind of the demographic

that has been around for what we started with.

And we need to elaborate more on those other platforms.

I mean, that's just what we need to do.

And I mean, I've been a little bit, technology,

you know, hard to get to learn the curve of it

because I'm just not, you know,

I don't want to say I was anti-technology,

but at the same time, as much as it's a great thing,

I think it's a hindrance.

And, you know, it's like, just when texting came out,

I thought I'd never text a word in my life.

And, you know, why wouldn't I want the personality

of having the conversation with somebody

that I needed to talk to?

You know what, on my way is a lot easier than, hey,

I just want to let you know, I'm on my way.

Yelp. Yes. Yes, I did grab that.

Yelp. Yeah, yeah, I remembered that, too.

Oh, God, there's a cop coming. I got to go.

So, I mean, on my way, we're just the same.

Yelp. I got you.

All right, anything else you want to mention?

Well, this, I think you said, will be uploaded on Christmas,

if I do believe I heard you correctly.

Should be dropping it at noon on Christmas Day,

is what I'm thinking.

So, what I would like to end this with is,

I hope everybody that is following along,

that is new to us and everything has a very great

Christmas holiday season with their loved ones

and a very healthy, you know, time period.

I mean, hopefully it's the best that you all can have.

And I'm grateful for everybody that came

follow along with us and keeps pushing us, you know, along.

You know, as much as I'd say that I'd like to push

other people's, you know, bring them along,

I think that this has really helped me also push

in other aspects of everything that I've done, too.

So, I'd like to thank everybody that has been around,

that has helped push, that has helped.

Man, that's cool. You got, you know,

I support that, what you got going on,

because without y'all, I don't know where I'd be.

So, I mean, thank you to everybody that's here.

I thank you to everybody that's following along.

Hopefully y'all are excited about, you know,

some of the changes, some of the stuff we're bringing forward.

But first and foremost, have your guys

focus on family over this time period.

Make sure that, you know, they're taking care of that,

you know, those memories are getting made.

And you'll well be here kicking off the season.

January 1st, we stop, you know, enrollment for season 4,

and we'll be running from there.

And then we'll be doing our first updates on February 1st

for our introductions and what everybody will be building

that's currently enrolled or will, you know,

be enrolled until January 1st, and then we're off and running.

So, you know, hope to see everybody again.

And y'all see me out and about,

or is there somewhere we're gonna be?

Make sure y'all come up and shake our hands.

I mean, this is what we're doing it for.

So, you know, let's have a great season of holidays

and look forward to the season 4 introductions coming soon.

Yep. Couldn't have said it better.

Merry Christmas, everybody, and thanks for following along with us.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

Have a great holiday season.

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