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Quick programming note on this upcoming episode.
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out of Scottsdale, Arizona.
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I'm your host, Jay Finney, recording from my home studio here in Gilbert, Arizona.
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Coming up this week, coming up on this show, first off, happy Labor Day Monday to everybody.
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But coming up on this show, we have Brian Sheehan of Anthem Cars and Coffee
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joins us to talk about his monthly event and a new event that is happening
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for the first time in the evening on September 13th, which is right around the corner.
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And as promised, Talk2Q joins the show and we talk about college football
01:58
and the upcoming NFL season.
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I did check the list of my wife's MDX is not on the list, nor is my 2022 Acura
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So if you guys are in the Phoenix area,
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Arizona area, you may have seen promotions for Anthem Cars and Coffee,
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which usually happens once a month.
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They have another event coming up, a brand new event called
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Anthem Knights, designed to, I wouldn't say fill a hole,
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but it's a perfect opportunity as we previously discussed.
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The PAVs Rock and Roll Car Show is no longer
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and we think this is going to be an excellent opportunity.
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So I'm joined by Brian Sheehan, the man behind Anthem
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Cars and Coffee. Brian, welcome to Hard Park, you man.
04:04
All right. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
04:07
Absolutely. So tell us a little bit about Anthem Cars and Coffee
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first because I've gone to it once. It's far as hell away from
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me down here in southeast Gilbert, but it is worth the drive.
04:16
It's just a long drive from me, but I think it services a lot
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of people in your area. So tell us about it.
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And that's kind of why I'm going to go back to the history
04:24
of why I started it. So I started going to car shows
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just like PAVs. You know, I'm a child of the 80s
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and I joined the VW club, Beetle Club, back when I was a
04:34
teenager, and we started driving out to the PAVs area
04:39
in the late 80s. And at that time, there was nothing out
04:42
there. We would drive out there and there was a parking lot
04:44
and there was some some little convenience stores and
04:47
things. And then we kind of developed a little meeting area
04:50
for the VW guys. And that evolved and kind of grew
04:55
and then PAVs, I think the McDonald's was built a
04:57
couple years later, like around 89, 90, something like
05:00
that. And then that show started and we kind of
05:03
blended in with that making our own show. And then it
05:06
just kind of went from there. And that's how I got to be a
05:08
real big fan of car shows. And then I started, got
05:12
together with my buddy, Rich Garcia, who owns Dinocomp.
05:16
And he and I, with a couple other friends, started
05:19
the Shelby Club, because we all went out and bought
05:21
Shelby's. This was the old CSXT, the Dodge
05:26
body that was after Carol Shelby left forward.
05:29
He went to Chrysler with Leigh Iacocca and started
05:31
those cars. So we had a bunch of those and we started
05:34
the Shelby Club in Arizona and I did a bunch with that
05:38
and that kind of grew. And I thought, maybe, you know
05:39
what, this would be kind of fun someday. I'd like to do
05:41
this, have my own car show. But I didn't think it
05:43
was a thing. One day I went to one out in
05:45
Scottsdale, won't say who it was, but it was a
05:47
lot of Ferraris and Turnkey bought yesterday
05:50
McLarens. I pulled in with my, at this time I
05:54
had a E93M3 that was all decked out. Richard
05:57
built it from Dinocomp. It was pretty bad.
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Sure. Pretty bad ass car.
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Drove it into their car show and they said,
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what are you doing here? You can't show this car.
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And I said, dude, this is a $86,000 BMW M3, man.
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No, it's not a show car. And they said, well, because
06:13
it's not a Ferrari or a Lambo or, and they said, no,
06:17
this is not your kind of show. And I said, well,
06:18
you know what? Whatever. F you.
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So in that respect, I kind of started my car
06:24
show out of spite. So went home, talked to
06:28
my kids and my kids at the time were, you
06:30
know, early teens. And my younger son is really
06:33
in the cars like me. So we had these little
06:38
postcards made up. And on one side, it said, nice car.
06:42
And on the other side, it said, join us for Anthem
06:45
cars and coffee. And I put the date and location.
06:48
And I made a deal with this coffee shop in Anthem
06:51
that I saw this coffee shop guy drove a really
06:54
cool Corvette. It goes, this guy's in the cars.
06:56
He'll love this idea of a car show.
06:59
So we, my son and I drove around the malls for
07:01
about three weekends in a row, putting these
07:05
postcards on people's windshields that we
07:07
thought were cool cars. Whenever we saw a
07:09
cool car, he'd jump out, he put it on their
07:11
windshield. And then the first show, I have
07:13
a first show and I had a little boombox over
07:16
in the corner for my music and my little
07:18
easy up and stuff, handing out stickers and
07:20
flyers. First car show, I had 65 cars.
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I'm like, well, this is pretty cool.
07:25
Then I started getting onto Instagram and
07:28
Facebook and started doing all that and
07:30
learning the Google... Hold on, Brian.
07:31
So about when was this? How many years ago?
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Yeah. Sorry. This was a fun thing. It was
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just before COVID. It happened. I started in
07:40
October of 19. So I get going and the first
07:45
show has got 65 cars. Second show, 250 cars.
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I was the person at the seams. I had no
07:52
room. I was taking up Wendy's parking.
07:54
I was taking up Ace Hardware's parking,
07:56
Circle K's parking, and people were parking
07:58
everywhere. It was just blowing up and
08:00
overflowing. So I figured, crap, I got to do
08:03
something. So I started looking around for
08:05
another location. Anyway, at that
08:08
location for about six, eight months or
08:10
so like that, and then I found this
08:11
church down the road, this Palmcroft
08:13
church. Because one of my charity
08:18
partners that does my show with me,
08:20
one of my vendors basically, she runs a
08:22
charity called Youth for Troops. She
08:24
would come to my show and she said, Hey,
08:25
why don't we do it at the church? You know,
08:26
I run this church thing. So I went over
08:28
there and they had a lot more parking,
08:30
about 250, 300 spots, and outgrew that
08:34
in two months. So struggled there for
08:36
about two years, going, you know,
08:39
making it work with limited space,
08:41
over parking, and things like that.
08:43
In the meantime, I was working a deal,
08:45
trying to get in my foot in the
08:47
door at the Outlet Mall. Come to
08:49
find out the guy who owns the
08:50
Outlet Mall, owns about 11 or 12 outlets
08:53
all over the country. And he just
08:55
happens to own the biggest weekly car show
08:59
in California in San Clemente, at his
09:02
Outlet Mall. Oh, no kidding.
09:04
Yeah. So funny thing is, I start talking
09:07
to the ladies who run the Outlet Mall,
09:09
the management people, and they're
09:12
like, you know, we're not interested.
09:13
They weren't, they didn't understand
09:15
what a car show was. They go, Well,
09:16
how many cars do you sell? They think
09:18
I'm like an RV show. You know,
09:19
like I'm going to sell cars. And they
09:22
don't understand what a car show was.
09:23
So I had to go through that hurdle for
09:24
about a year. And then finally,
09:26
they called me up one day and they
09:27
said, Hey, our boss bought this
09:30
convertible Cadillac Coupe Deville
09:33
on bags and he can't get it running.
09:36
And he's out in Ohio and I thought,
09:39
maybe I'd call you to see if you
09:40
could help us out. So I went there,
09:42
turns out dead battery. So I fixed
09:43
that. Then it turns out I wouldn't
09:45
go into gear because I had no
09:46
transfluid. So I put like eight
09:47
cords of transfluid and that thing
09:49
got it started. Apparently that was
09:51
enough to make everybody happy and
09:55
And then that's it. Now the rest of
09:56
it's just, I do my show there. They
10:00
love it. I got the food court. They're
10:04
You know, they come out and they do
10:05
their little outdoor kitchens during
10:06
my show. Sometimes I got a great
10:09
coffee tea guy who does my show on a
10:11
regular basis. We got a few vendors.
10:14
And it's just kind of grew from
10:16
there. And then when the pavilion
10:18
started getting a little weird
10:20
towards the end there, when they
10:21
started doing that event company and
10:23
stuff, and I talked to Andrew out
10:26
there, when that kind of heard the
10:28
rumblings of that going away, that's
10:30
when I started thinking, well maybe I
10:32
can start something. I'm not trying
10:34
to go out there to fill the void.
10:35
There's enough night time events
10:37
out there. Nancy's got hers in
10:39
Glendale and there's the track
10:40
star guy. There's other guys that
10:42
are doing shows at night. But the
10:44
nice thing about my show, and I
10:45
hope this kind of resonates with
10:47
the people that go to it, is my show
10:50
I kind of intended to be more of like a
10:52
destination thing. Not just a show you
10:55
go to, but maybe like a road trip.
10:57
Like, hey, I'm gonna go to Flagstaff
10:58
or I'm gonna go to Prescott or I'm
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gonna go to Sedona. I'm gonna stop
11:01
by Anthem Cars and Coffee. And then
11:04
I started appealing to all the car
11:06
clubs out there and said, hey, you
11:07
know what? Make my show a meeting
11:11
point for your rallies. You know,
11:13
you guys are gonna go on this
11:14
Sedona rally. Meet at my show at
11:16
seven in the morning. Have some
11:17
coffee, have some tea, do your thing,
11:19
then roll out, you know? And then
11:21
right. I started appealing to like
11:22
21st century and the BMW clubs and
11:25
some of these other guys out there
11:27
to see if they'd be interested in
11:28
doing it. And the guys who really
11:30
grabbed on pretty well and pretty
11:33
good numbers were the Corvette
11:34
Club and the Mustang guys. And
11:38
a lot of numbers between those two.
11:40
Oh man, a lot of new balance and
11:42
cargo shorts. I mean, great, great
11:45
attendance. Really nice guys. A little
11:47
bit of the older crowd, which I'm fine
11:48
with. I'm kind of leaning in the older
11:51
Best problems. But my kids are both,
11:54
you know, my kids are both 19 and 21
11:57
and they're all into cars and they're
11:59
like, man, you got to have a
11:59
nighttime show dad. You got to do
12:01
this. And my biggest fear was I
12:03
didn't want it to turn into a
12:04
cluster. I didn't want it to be
12:07
that show where the cops come,
12:09
where people are popping and crackling
12:10
and two-stepping and burnouts and
12:12
all that. So I've been kind of on the
12:15
fence to decide whether I wanted to do
12:17
it or not. And then I got a hold of a
12:20
buddy of mine who works for the
12:21
Maricopa County Sheriff and he's like,
12:24
you need security out there because
12:25
all you need is a couple of bodies
12:27
out there. They're wearing uniform
12:29
and some twinkling lights and
12:30
everybody will stay chill. Just like
12:32
they did at the Pavilions. I think
12:33
that's what kept the Pavilions
12:35
kind of that even tone where people
12:38
didn't get out of hand because
12:41
for the most part. Yeah, for the most part.
12:44
I think you're right. When Andrew was
12:45
on, we kind of talked about a couple
12:47
times. It kind of got out of hand
12:48
because people are just going to be
12:50
people. But yeah, for the most part,
12:51
you need presence there to
12:53
keep people in order. Yeah. And I've
12:55
been to other shows where they had
12:57
no presence and it was somewhere
12:59
where I wanted to get the heck out
13:00
of there. And businesses didn't
13:04
like it. Of your three, though.
13:07
So now Anthem Cars and Coffee is at
13:09
the Anthem outlets, right? Yeah, I've
13:11
been at the Anthem outlets now for
13:13
just over a year, year and a half now
13:16
and they love it. The mall is totally
13:18
supporting me. This is my third spot.
13:21
But I was at your second spot. I
13:23
remember you were at the church.
13:25
Yeah, the church sounds right.
13:28
Yeah, it was Palmcroft Church. Yep, yep.
13:32
So you have Anthem Nights coming up.
13:33
This launch is, I believe,
13:35
Saturday, September 13th. Is that
13:37
correct? Yes it is.
13:39
We're going to go from probably like
13:40
five to eight, four to eight, something
13:43
See how I'm opening the gates at four,
13:45
but I figured the show will go like
13:47
And I'm doing it to eight because
13:49
that's when the mall technically
13:51
You know, that's my permit time.
13:55
That's my license and contract with
13:57
So people are welcome to hang out
13:59
afterwards and just keep a chill.
14:01
And I think it'll be a good show. I
14:03
got some vendors coming out.
14:04
Like I said, I got two
14:06
restaurants in the food court
14:07
going to do an outdoor kitchen.
14:10
I'm going to be playing my own music.
14:12
You know, I'm an 80s,
14:14
X80s, early 90s DJ.
14:17
So I'm just going to bring my own
14:19
put something on my phone and let it
14:21
That's pretty much it.
14:24
I'm hoping it turns out well.
14:27
and maybe you don't have that
14:29
problem now, because what time does
14:30
the outlet typically open up in the
14:32
Now, like 9, 11, 10?
14:36
And that's why I do my morning show
14:38
either from 7 to 10
14:41
Um, the reason I do that is because
14:44
the mall originally was a little bit
14:46
fearful. They were a little bit
14:47
worried about the fact that
14:49
I might have 500 cars show up
14:51
and they don't have any room for
14:52
their customers to park.
14:54
So that was originally why we set
14:55
up the time to end before the mall
14:58
But now they're finding that, hey,
14:59
if I trickle into the opening time
15:01
or start before the closing time,
15:04
that's going to help the food
15:05
court. That's going to help food
15:07
and Nike's going to be happier and
15:09
all these other stores are going to
15:10
be happy because they got more
15:13
Now, with the event starting at
15:21
how are you going to mitigate the
15:23
parking? I would assume you have a
15:25
spaces, but let's say somebody shows
15:27
up at two o'clock and they're
15:28
shopping and they're all up in the
15:30
Well, they won't go into the space
15:32
because I haven't roped off.
15:33
Basically, the way I've been doing
15:35
it since I started there is I go there
15:38
real late after the mall is open,
15:40
and I caution tape it off with my
15:43
and I close off the area, I put all my
15:46
signs up at night, my street signs
15:47
so people know where to go and where to
15:50
I also have three guys.
15:53
Well, I have four guys technically
15:57
that are kind of my team that helped
15:59
We all have wear headsets, we have
16:02
and we kind of spread each other
16:05
Michael say, hey, I got a 57 Chevy
16:08
and go to row three, where Reagan
16:10
will be sitting there at row three
16:12
and he'll park that guy.
16:13
Or, hey, I got a NSX coming,
16:16
park that in row one
16:17
and throw that in the exotics,
16:19
and that's how we kind of organize it.
16:22
Communication, man, it's great.
16:24
We have to do the two-way radio
16:25
We tried it our first few shows
16:29
and people would just be parking
16:31
wherever they want.
16:33
I try not to be too stiff
16:35
with the way I park the show,
16:36
but I also like to keep it
16:37
somewhat organized by genre.
16:40
You know, just like the Pavilions did.
16:42
They kind of did the same thing.
16:43
And I don't get real picky about that,
16:46
but I try not to blend my classics
16:50
or my Germans with my Japanese.
16:54
So I kind of try to
16:56
organize it as best I can.
16:57
My second show, I'm standing there
16:59
organizing my biggest set,
17:01
my 200 and some cars show,
17:04
And these little kids come walking up
17:06
to me, these three brothers.
17:07
And they're like 14, 16, and 12,
17:10
or something like that.
17:12
And they walk up to me
17:13
and they're holding the cameras
17:14
and this drone and all this cool stuff.
17:16
I'm like, wow, you guys are set up.
17:17
And they say, hey, Brian,
17:18
do you mind if we film your show
17:20
and we'll post some stuff for you?
17:23
And they did such a good job
17:25
that they've been my media guys
17:28
Well, that's awesome, man.
17:29
And they've grown their own company
17:31
because of that's cool.
17:32
What are they called?
17:34
They're called CSG visuals.
17:36
Oh, yeah, they're they're on your
17:37
your Anthem cars and coffee Instagram.
17:40
And they're actually in Vegas right now
17:42
doing a shoot for their own company
17:45
And I hope that I had something to do
17:47
with that, you know, hopefully
17:49
because they they really kind of
17:50
learn their their groove
17:52
and learn their technique.
17:53
I think from doing a lot of videos
17:55
I'm not going to be able to get
17:56
to your your inaugural,
17:59
your very first Anthem Knights show.
18:02
I will be traveling to NS Expo
18:03
an annual event that I do every year.
18:05
That's a good part of the country.
18:07
And I kind of have to be there.
18:08
I am the club president.
18:10
So, you know, best of luck with it.
18:13
People want to follow.
18:13
They go to Anthem dot cars and coffee
18:16
on, I guess, Instagram
18:17
and all the social media is right
18:19
And I got Facebook too.
18:21
Let's see all that.
18:23
So Facebook, no dot.
18:24
And then on YouTube,
18:26
Anthem cars and coffee.
18:28
And then we have the old faithful
18:29
dot com to Anthem cars and coffee
18:32
The people need to pre register
18:36
I don't do any registration ahead
18:38
I do ask that if people want to
18:40
they want to come out with the
18:41
Just let me know ahead of time
18:42
how many spots you need.
18:44
And I'll block off an area
18:46
You guys can all be together.
18:47
I want to warn people too
18:49
there's a lot of scammers.
18:51
And there's a lot of people that
18:52
will get on to my site
18:53
and get on to my comments
18:54
and they'll comment about
18:56
hey, you got to pay us
18:58
You know, direct message me.
19:01
I call them hijackers
19:02
because I've had a couple of my
19:03
people that come to my shows
19:04
that have gotten burned.
19:08
There's a lot of people's
19:09
scammers out there,
19:10
but no, there's no registration.
19:14
There'll be vendors.
19:15
The food court's open.
19:16
The bathrooms are really clean
19:18
Plus you got the mall.
19:19
Do your shopping while you're
19:22
Sounds good, Brian.
19:23
Hopefully you guys knock it
19:24
I'm sharing it on social media,
19:27
and all the car groups.
19:28
And I'll try to get to the
19:31
We'll have another promo video
19:33
where we're filming tomorrow.
19:34
Hopefully get that out.
19:35
We'll throw it out there
19:36
on all those social media
19:37
and TikTok and everything.
19:41
Thanks for having me.
19:44
like I told you guys,
19:45
we're going to have Talk2Q
19:47
We love talking football.
19:49
I've said this many times.
19:51
I think that sports is
19:52
probably my first love
19:53
even more so than cars.
19:54
So Q, it's great to have
19:57
I appreciate being here, man.
19:59
It's that time of the year.
20:01
It is that time of the year.
20:03
Who is that behind your shoulder,
20:05
number nine autograph there?
20:07
He's from Days at Alcorn.
20:09
Alcorn State University.
20:12
So I got to meet him
20:13
on a couple of occasions.
20:14
It says I went to Mississippi
20:22
Yeah, I got to see him
20:23
and Michael Strahan
20:26
So what we're going to be talking
20:28
some surprising roster cuts.
20:30
Obviously, we're going to do
20:32
way too early predictions
20:33
for the NFL season.
20:34
I think we're technically
20:35
still two weeks away
20:36
from game one of the season.
20:38
Fantasy football drafts
20:39
haven't happened yet.
20:40
I'm going to join a fantasy
20:47
and then we're going to get
20:47
into college football,
20:48
which is my real love.
20:49
We're going to talk
20:50
some Michigan Wolverines,
20:51
some Texas versus Ohio State
20:53
and two soon predictions.
20:56
I got to tell you though
20:59
and somebody had posted tickets
21:01
for the Texas Texas A&M game,
21:03
which is the last game
21:05
So you talk about way too early
21:06
Q and I know that we're going
21:08
to talk about college
21:09
football in a second,
21:10
but just made me think about this.
21:12
Tickets are already going.
21:14
The cheap seat nosebleeds
21:18
of the tickets that I saw
21:19
in the seating chart
21:19
from all different sections
21:25
And this game is going to be played
21:29
This is going to be a D.K.R.
21:31
This is going to be in Texas this year.
21:32
Last year they traveled
21:34
to where the Aggies play.
21:37
If those prices are that high now,
21:40
what they're going to be
21:41
a couple of months from now
21:42
to get closer to the date,
21:43
especially both teams
21:44
having great seasons.
21:47
I go, I expect these prices
21:51
in the last game of the season
21:52
because one team could be 500.
21:55
You know, the other team could not
21:56
have that perfect season
21:58
You know, most people think
22:00
I've seen Texas being
22:05
And I'll get into that
22:06
and Michael playing about that.
22:07
But NFL roster cuts,
22:10
football, NFL is king.
22:12
Are there any roster cuts
22:13
that you're surprised at?
22:16
any moves you think
22:17
are going to happen?
22:18
I sit you the list here.
22:21
that stand out to me is,
22:24
and I saw this name pop up
22:25
and he's the goes from Christmas past
22:27
is on Buffalo Bills.
22:29
Shane Bouchel used to be
22:31
with the Texas Longhorns.
22:32
He was supposed to be the next guy.
22:35
And I don't know if it was,
22:36
I forgot who he got supplanted by.
22:38
Oh, I think it was Sam Ellinger.
22:41
So Shane Bouchel transferred to SMU
22:43
when he played the rest of his time
22:44
at SMU and he made it to the NFL.
22:45
So, but that's all I have
22:50
on any of your teams
22:51
or any other roster cuts
22:52
that you've seen that surprise you.
22:54
Maybe some roster people
22:58
that made the 53 man roster
22:59
that surprised you.
23:01
I guess what surprised me
23:05
to get scantling in Seattle.
23:07
I thought he had a good year
23:08
with the Saints last year at receiver.
23:11
And to see him get cut in Seattle
23:13
means that they really have faith
23:14
in their young receivers.
23:17
you have Jackson Smith and Jigba.
23:19
Well, Cooper Cups now young.
23:21
Then you have a couple of young
23:23
draft picks that they have
23:26
So I was surprised to see him go,
23:27
especially since I think he had
23:28
already gotten paid.
23:30
And then Miko Hardman
23:35
That's Super Bowl pedigree
23:37
from playing with the Chiefs.
23:39
And the Packers have been
23:41
kind of up and down
23:42
with their receivers.
23:45
but they just can't seem to catch
23:46
the ball when it matters.
23:48
So I was kind of surprised to see him go,
23:50
but a guy that I understand
23:55
because it just wasn't enough room,
23:57
but he was a fan favorite.
23:58
The quarterback Tommy DeVito
24:03
Everybody was in the stands
24:04
doing the, you know,
24:06
the DeVito move, so to speak.
24:08
And if you have Russell Wilson
24:11
and Jackson Dard and Jamis Winston,
24:14
I mean, there was no room
24:15
on that team for him.
24:16
So I can see him getting picked up.
24:18
I thought he was pretty good.
24:21
There's a few people.
24:22
And then you did name
24:24
the biggest receiver is Seattle.
24:27
With DK McAfee and God.
24:29
I didn't know that.
24:30
He's with the Steelers now.
24:34
He's going to be with Aaron Rodgers.
24:35
So yeah, that's what makes it
24:36
even more surprising
24:37
because the best receiver
24:39
and they're going to roll with
24:41
Smith and Jigba and Cooper Cup.
24:43
Didn't Scantling also play
24:47
He did have a stint with the Chiefs.
24:48
I think he started out
24:50
And then I was kind of surprised
24:51
to see Teddy Bridgewater
24:53
make the make Tampa Bay's team.
24:55
I thought Kyle Trask out of Florida
25:00
was going to stick.
25:01
Did they release Trask?
25:02
Yeah, he got released.
25:03
That's what I thought.
25:04
I thought he was going to stick
25:06
but Teddy Bridgewater beat him out.
25:08
And poor Sam Allinger.
25:10
I thought he played pretty decent
25:12
but the Broncos released him.
25:15
Maybe he'll get signed
25:16
back to the practice squad.
25:17
Again, this just happened yesterday.
25:18
So I think once people clear waivers,
25:21
right, I think they have like a week
25:22
and then they can sign them back to the squad.
25:25
Yeah, there'll be a lot of movement,
25:27
I'm sure, coming soon.
25:28
I think the receiver position
25:30
is the one that hit me the most
25:31
as far as people who got cut
25:34
that I really didn't expect.
25:36
Like Hunter Renfrow with Carolina Panthers.
25:40
He was solid with the Raiders,
25:41
but I don't think he just recovered
25:45
Yeah, I was reading that he was down
25:47
to like 150 and was going to retire.
25:50
Davos Sweeney kind of talked him back
25:53
but I guess he was getting prey.
25:54
So he's going to go to the practice squad
25:57
getting back to his normal playing weight,
25:59
maybe, or someone's going to pick him up.
26:01
Maybe he goes back to the Raiders.
26:03
I mean, they just got kidney picket.
26:06
that was kind of surprising
26:07
because all training cap long,
26:09
he was quarterback too.
26:10
Obviously he got hurt a little bit,
26:11
but at least he's played some time
26:12
in the NFL, improving.
26:14
Then I thought picket was pretty good
26:17
I didn't think he was going to take anyone
26:18
to the Super Bowl, but I didn't think he sucked.
26:20
I think picket is pretty solid.
26:22
So he could be in a good spot there
26:24
playing behind Jano.
26:26
So we'll see what happens.
26:27
You know, Jano Smith got set
26:29
from Seattle to the Raiders.
26:32
I see one of your Michigan guys
26:34
from the Jets, Donovan Edwards.
26:38
And yeah, Donovan Edwards, man,
26:40
if he would have come out his junior year,
26:42
he probably would have been a first round pick.
26:44
He stayed for his senior year.
26:48
And now he's just a dude, you know?
26:51
You're an NCAA college football cover athlete,
26:55
you know, on the video game.
26:57
You can't keep a job right now.
26:59
So I kind of hate that form.
27:01
And Xavier Restrepo was released
27:04
from Tennessee, which I can't say I'm surprised,
27:07
but I kind of wanted to see him
27:08
and Cam Ward play together again
27:10
since they were Miami teammates.
27:13
So maybe he'll get re-signed
27:14
to the practice squad.
27:15
But outside of that,
27:18
not really too many huge surprises to me.
27:22
I think a lot of these teams
27:24
are pretty much set after the second pre-season game.
27:27
And people are just ready to get the season started.
27:30
Let's talk about Travis Hunter,
27:33
revisit Travis Hunter, Ashton Jonti,
27:35
and Shadoor Sanders,
27:36
starting with Travis Hunter.
27:38
I am on record as saying,
27:39
I'm still not convinced
27:40
he's going to do great at the next level.
27:42
I didn't really watch.
27:45
where he made a couple of catches.
27:46
They didn't look that impressive.
27:48
It looks like he's easy to bring down
27:49
on a simple arm tackle because he's just so small.
27:52
And I don't know if they put him out on defense.
27:54
Actually, I think I saw him on defense,
27:55
maybe not get trucked,
27:56
but maybe get turned around
27:59
and maybe we got lucky on an assist or so.
28:02
But I'm still don't know what's going to happen with him.
28:04
Obviously, all three names that I just mentioned
28:06
The only one that was
28:08
flaky with Shadoor,
28:09
just because he got pixel low,
28:11
not because of his overall performance.
28:14
have you had time to look into Travis Hunter at all?
28:17
Yeah, I think Travis can be a decent defensive back.
28:21
Like maybe even a pro bow defensive back
28:23
if that was his focus.
28:25
But trying to do both,
28:26
I can't really see him being great at either.
28:30
And I think he's a better DB than he is a receiver.
28:36
This whole trying to go two ways thing is cool.
28:41
Maybe it worked in college for you,
28:43
which kind of surprised me there.
28:44
But in the pros, man, that is so taxing.
28:47
And I just can't see him really perfecting his craft
28:50
if he's splitting both sides of the ball.
28:52
I just haven't really had an opportunity
28:54
to see anything happen with him.
28:55
And hopefully everything happens for him.
28:59
I'm still not convinced.
29:01
I think he's going to be pretty good.
29:03
I don't think he's going to be a draft bust.
29:05
But I'm going to have to see more.
29:07
It's just preseason, right?
29:08
You're not going to waste all this time
29:11
You don't want to get him injured.
29:12
Maybe he proves everyone wrong.
29:14
When you look at Dion,
29:15
I mean, he was limited on offense when he played.
29:18
It wasn't like he was full time.
29:20
You look at guys like Charles Woodson,
29:22
he would play a little offense.
29:24
But he was mainly a DB.
29:27
And that's what I think Travis Hunter should do.
29:29
You want to come in on a couple of plays on offense?
29:32
But focus on being a DB
29:33
because I think that can be his bread and butter.
29:35
I want to say Deon was wide receiver two
29:39
on the Dallas Cowboys
29:42
when he joined after San Francisco.
29:45
He was the starting wide receiver
29:47
but behind like Michael Irving.
29:49
I think even Alvin Harper,
29:50
if he was still there was like wide receiver three.
29:52
But that was still midway through his career
29:55
where he was already well established
29:56
at doing other things.
29:58
I mean, I don't, I think even when he was with Atlanta,
30:01
he caught some end arounds.
30:02
Maybe some screen passes, if that.
30:05
And then with San Francisco,
30:06
he caught a couple hooks,
30:09
you know, maybe one or two deep balls
30:11
caught some drop some because, I mean,
30:13
he's out there playing receiver
30:14
with fucking baseball gloves on.
30:18
Yeah, so with Travis,
30:20
if he goes over the middle too many times,
30:23
I it can really just beat him up
30:25
for for the defensive side of things.
30:27
So yeah, I don't like the idea,
30:29
but we'll see what happens.
30:32
Ashton Jonte, I saw him play a couple plays
30:35
I didn't really get time to dig in.
30:37
Looks like I don't know what to expect.
30:40
He's a smaller guy too.
30:42
He's pretty elusive,
30:43
but I didn't see him breaking too many tackles.
30:45
So I think he's going to have to rely on his shiftiness,
30:47
kind of like a Saquon Barkley would that's smaller.
30:51
So I think Barkley has bigger tree trunk legs
30:53
and it's just as shifty,
30:55
but he did make some plays, I think,
30:57
and I think they have big hopes for him out there in Vegas.
31:01
What have you heard, if anything on Ashley?
31:02
Yeah, I watched him play a little bit in preseason
31:05
and I think the perfect person to compare him to,
31:08
in my opinion, is Ezekiel Elliott,
31:11
to where he really started out fast,
31:14
but he wore down quickly.
31:16
And I think because Ashton,
31:18
unless he can work on that shiftiness you talked about
31:21
and avoid some of the contact,
31:24
he could be one of those guys
31:25
after about six seasons who maybe burnt out
31:28
depending on how much they use them.
31:30
So I expect good things out of him.
31:32
I think he's going to be a solid running back
31:34
by how long he can last
31:36
depends on his ability to make people miss.
31:38
What do you think about Shadour?
31:39
Did you see where they released
31:40
four of the five offensive linemen
31:42
that were blocking former in the last game?
31:44
Yeah, I think Shadour has the potential.
31:49
I hate to use that nine letter word,
31:51
but I think he has the potential
31:53
to really be a good quarterback.
31:56
But there's some basic things he has to work on
31:58
and one of those things
31:59
is trust in his offensive line.
32:01
Now, the guys he played behind in the last game,
32:03
I understand why you would not trust them.
32:06
But in the previous games
32:08
and even in college,
32:09
he tends to just drift backwards
32:12
instead of stepping up in the pocket
32:13
and making a throw.
32:15
And he doesn't like to step up in the pocket
32:17
because he holds the ball so long
32:20
because he's looking for something big downfield.
32:22
And, you know, once you step up
32:23
and you only have a split second
32:26
So if he can figure that out,
32:27
trust his offensive line
32:30
when these defensive ends rush up the field past you.
32:33
Yeah, they're coming back,
32:33
but you've got to step up
32:34
and get rid of that ball
32:35
before they make it back to you.
32:37
And I think he can really be good.
32:38
He's deadly accurate.
32:39
Man, he's super accurate.
32:41
Yeah. And, you know,
32:41
I made that comp to Joey Harrington
32:43
and some people who heard that
32:47
I think overall people would probably scoff at it,
32:49
I lived through the Joey Harrington days
32:53
A lot of similarities
32:54
dropping back way too far.
32:56
Harrington would be 10, 15 yards
32:58
behind line scrimmage
32:59
before he released the ball.
33:00
You have to get outside of the pocket
33:02
and throw that ball out.
33:03
You can't dance around,
33:05
and this is the NFL.
33:06
You're going to get killed.
33:07
Obviously, there's a whole collusion thing
33:09
that's been going around
33:10
with Eric Dickerson
33:11
basically saying that he heard
33:12
that they were told not to draft him.
33:15
I don't know, you know,
33:17
if that's true, maybe,
33:18
but I also saw plenty of stuff
33:22
and I'm not trying to be a hater
33:23
because I follow Colorado
33:25
like millions of others
33:26
because I'm a Die Hard D on Sanders fan
33:27
and you want the underdog to win,
33:31
that 30-yard loss or whatever it was
33:33
kind of defined what I was thinking of him
33:35
for the past few years at Colorado.
33:37
I was like, dude, you have to step up.
33:38
You have to get rid of that ball.
33:39
And I think Choudour get opportunities
33:42
if he corrects his mistake.
33:45
They're basic mistakes.
33:46
I mean, rookie's going to make mistakes.
33:48
A couple of corrections here and there,
33:50
and he'll elevate himself
33:51
off the deaf chart.
33:53
But all these people saying
33:55
that he wasn't given a fair chance
33:57
because he had to play behind
33:58
a garbage line in August.
34:00
But that's what happens
34:01
when you get drafted,
34:02
where he got drafted.
34:04
I mean, that's how it works.
34:05
You don't draft someone that low
34:07
and let them play with starters.
34:09
That's not how it goes.
34:11
The quarterbacks, based on priority,
34:13
are going to get the best offensive line
34:18
even if you have a bad offensive line
34:21
you can't drift backwards
34:22
and take 30-yard sacks.
34:24
I'm excited to see what happens.
34:26
Two soon predictions
34:27
for Ashton, Choudour.
34:29
What are your predictions for this season?
34:31
And then who do you have
34:31
winning the Super Bowl?
34:32
Again, this is way too early predictions.
34:34
Yeah, it's definitely early.
34:36
Travis Hunter, I can see
34:39
five interceptions,
34:41
maybe about 500 yards
34:44
receiving, you know,
34:51
Ashton, I can see Jonte
34:52
doing about 1200 yards rushing.
34:55
I think having Jeno Smith,
34:57
that quarterback is going to afford
34:58
him some opportunities
35:00
through play action to do pretty well,
35:04
And then as far as Choudour's concerned,
35:06
I don't really see him
35:07
coming off that bench this year.
35:11
unless everybody in front of him gets hurt,
35:13
I think he's going to ride this one out
35:15
and maybe come next season
35:17
you know, make his mark
35:18
on trying to move up the depth chart.
35:20
I have said I have Choudour
35:22
starting by week three.
35:25
before all this stuff even happened.
35:28
And so I have to stick to that,
35:30
although I would not put money on it.
35:33
A lot of stuff has to happen in front of him.
35:36
he can look great in preseason,
35:37
but he could turn around
35:38
and he's one injury away from,
35:40
all of a sudden you have Dylan Gabriel.
35:43
And I think that Dylan Gabriel and Choudour
35:46
than the depth chart suggests.
35:48
I think half the people would say Choudour is better.
35:50
Half the people would say Dylan Gabriel is better.
35:52
But I think Choudour probably has the intangibles.
35:55
So it'll be interesting to see.
35:57
I could see him leapfrogging
35:59
or Dylan Gabriel getting pulled really quickly
36:02
if he struggles and then put in Choudour.
36:04
Yeah, I think that's way too early.
36:05
I think the only difference of point of two
36:06
is that Dylan gets rid of the ball quickly.
36:08
I'm going to take your predictions
36:10
on Travis Hunter and Ashton Jonte.
36:11
I think Ashton is going to be a,
36:13
I think he's going to be good on fantasy football
36:15
because I don't know what other choices they have there.
36:17
He's going to catch,
36:18
he'll probably have 400 yards receiving.
36:21
He'll probably have 40,
36:22
40, 50, I want to 40, 50 catches,
36:24
but maybe 40 catches,
36:26
500 yards receiving,
36:28
900 or 1100 yards rushing
36:30
and he'll probably have 20 total touchdowns
36:33
that make the all rookie team.
36:37
Five interceptions I think would be a reach
36:40
because I don't think he's going to get much playing time
36:42
until later in the season.
36:44
And I told you about Choudour.
36:46
Super Bowl, I'm going to have to go with the Bills.
36:48
This is the Bills house.
36:49
We're going to do a Bills game
36:51
early in October, actually.
36:54
And Josh Allen in the Bills is the pick.
36:58
I don't know how their defense,
36:59
the defense always lets them down.
37:01
Well, I forgot to give my pick,
37:04
but I'm with you with Buffalo
37:07
and I think Philadelphia is going to get back
37:09
because the NFC really doesn't have anyone
37:11
to challenge Philadelphia.
37:13
But as far as who's going to win it,
37:15
that's going to be tough,
37:16
but I can see Buffalo finally pulling it off
37:19
and ending that long spale of disappointment.
37:24
Talk about or try to talk about
37:26
what are your expectations for Michigan this year
37:28
and they have some suspensions.
37:30
Does that, is that, what's that going to affect?
37:32
If the players are getting paid,
37:34
they have to decide if they want the money
37:36
or they want the glory,
37:37
but they probably can't have both
37:39
for this year and maybe the next few years.
37:40
I haven't looked into the suspensions
37:44
I don't even know if they're having suspensions.
37:45
And coaches are getting suspended,
37:47
but the program is pretty much safe.
37:49
They're going to hit them in the wallet.
37:51
So they're losing postseason money.
37:54
Like, I think up to 20 million
37:56
or was it 30 million?
37:57
That's a lot of money.
37:58
The coach more or be suspended for,
38:02
I think it was one,
38:03
I think it's for one game, maybe two.
38:06
Yeah, but the thing is,
38:07
and maybe this is the new model of the NCAA,
38:09
they don't want to punish the players
38:11
for something someone else did and left.
38:14
So they're starting to hit the institutions
38:15
in the wallet and the coaches.
38:17
I'm hoping they can go eight and four.
38:20
That would be a respectable season.
38:22
If everything goes well,
38:23
maybe they could fool around and get nine to 10 wins.
38:26
Colorado, I think it's going to take a huge step back this year
38:28
because their big three are gone.
38:31
I wouldn't be surprised if Dion retired halfway
38:34
through the middle of the season for health reasons.
38:38
Colorado, they have like 30 transfers.
38:41
So these are guys who have been playing
38:43
They're seasoned players.
38:45
And if those guys can jail,
38:48
they can be pretty good.
38:49
They can be right back at nine wins.
38:51
They have a tough schedule with Kansas State,
38:55
Arizona State, BYU, Texas Tech.
38:57
They have a tough schedule.
39:00
If they can jail and run the ball,
39:04
Marshall Falk is their new running back coach.
39:07
So Marshall Falk is worth his weight in gold.
39:10
And they run the ball and can...
39:12
Maybe they can surprise people
39:14
and get back to nine wins.
39:16
But it's going to be tough
39:17
because like you said, their stars are gone.
39:20
And then the big thing is,
39:21
will Arch Manning live up to the hype at Texas?
39:24
And then what is that hype?
39:26
My response is, I don't know how we measure that.
39:30
I think he's probably going to do really good.
39:32
I would hate to be Arch Manning with all the pressure.
39:35
He plays Joe Cool right now,
39:37
but there's no way that pressure
39:38
is not kind of getting to him a little bit.
39:40
This is arguably the biggest school in the country.
39:42
One of the biggest three schools in the country,
39:45
not only for money,
39:46
but also just for recognition.
39:47
People who love or they hate Texas
39:49
and he's the man at the helm.
39:50
Yeah. Just having the last name Manning,
39:54
you should be expecting a lot of pressure.
39:57
And I'm hoping if anybody can handle it,
40:00
just this guy, when you consider
40:02
what Peyton and Eli went through
40:03
and how they succeeded.
40:06
So I like the fact that he's very versatile.
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He can run that ball.
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A lot of people just think of him
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when they think Manning, they think passing.
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He's the one athletic Manning
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that's probably in the family.
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So he can run that thing
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and I look for him to do big things.
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I don't think the pressure is too much for him.
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Let's get into early predictions first.
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I'll do that because I have no idea.
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Texas is picked, I think, statistically
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to be the team to win the national championship.
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I'm a diehard Longhorns fan.
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I'm going to have to take the field on this one.
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I'm just going to have to take the field.
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I think it's funny that they're the
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number one overall preseason team ranking wise.
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The closest ever or the closest in 30 years,
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number two is Penn State,
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number three is Ohio State.
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But somehow they're picked.
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They're a two and a half point underdog for game one.
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And I don't understand.
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I know they're going to Ohio State,
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but if you think that the team you picked
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to be the number one in the country
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is going to lose their first game,
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why are they number one to begin with?
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That's a good point.
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That's a very good point.
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But I like Texas to win this game
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against Ohio State, even though Ohio State's
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like a two and a half point favorite.
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I just think they lost too much.
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They lost so much in the trenches, you know?
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I mean, first you lose both your running backs.
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You lost your quarterback.
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I think you lost your complete defensive line.
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And Texas, man, those edge rushers are monsters.
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Those guys are going to get after that new quarterback saying,
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I think his name is.
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And even though they have great receivers in Ohio State,
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I think Texas defense is going to be too much.
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I do think it would be a low scoring game though, you know,
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like a, I don't know, 28, 21 type of game, nothing astronomical.
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That's not that low scoring though.
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I think a lot of people are saying Texas 27-17.
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I'm seeing people say Ohio State's going to,
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you know, win comfortably.
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I think Paul Feinbaum is predicted a blowout for Texas
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because he says Ohio State has ranked way too high.
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I don't like predicting my own team playing.
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I'm superstitious like that.
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I just hope, honestly, it's not even a close game.
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I hope Texas just blows their doors off.
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Kind of like they did Michigan last year
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when they cut Michigan kind of unguarded.
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Yeah, and of course, as a Michigan fan, I hate Ohio State,
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so I'll always pull against them.
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But I think, you know, Ohio State's quarterback is fairly new.
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Archie Manning is starting for the first time,
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but he's been in the system, you know?
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So this is just what, third season in the system.
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So he knows that system.
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Yeah, but who do you have winning it all this year?
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I have to go with Texas.
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I know it's the sexy pick right now,
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but can State's not going to do it?
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No, the game's not going to do it.
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Everybody around them seems to have taken,
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like nobody, not the gloss Arch Manning too much,
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but I don't think, I think everybody around them
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has lost that important quarterback position.
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And with the exception of, I think, Clemson,
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people are talking about Kay Clubnick a lot.
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He was really good.
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And I think I've heard in some circles
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where he may be kind of considered
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as a dark horse for a Heisman front runner.
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He impressed a shit out of me last year watching him play,
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especially against Texas.
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I obviously hope Texas wins the national championship.
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I would be excited and I'll bring Izzy's little jersey out,
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but that's all I have.
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That's all I have today.
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You know, thank you for meeting up with me, Q.
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We'll get the technical glitches kind of ironed out here
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