Aus EV News: Jaecoo J5 Launch, New DC Chargers & Battery Rebate Update

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Everyone, hope you're all well. Welcome to a special Monday night episode of the EV

show by Ludacris Feed. That's right, my name is Tom, nice to see you all. And we are on

the countdown to Christmas, of course. If you do celebrate Christmas, Merry Christmas

to you. And we've got a special show tonight, of course, on a Monday night. Let's get

started, eh? But before we do that, let's thank our sponsors, Hun Cook Driving Emotion.

They get to power shop as well for your EV day or EV night plans. And also they get a car loop,

data from power, Australia's EV revolution. Speaking of, let's welcome our co-host for

this evening, of course, Mr. Riz Akhtar. Hello Riz, how are we? Hey Tom, good to be on.

Feeling very, very festive at the moment. Love this background. We're back. It's a Monday.

Not the usual Wednesday, but Monday's can be just as much fun just before Christmas.

Absolutely. Yep, we can only do this once a year, this festive background. So, hey,

let's flog it for all it's worth, eh? Even with our lives, Riz, you've been good?

Yeah, I've been good. I've been good, Tom. I look forward to hearing how your adventure

was. And of course, there's been lots happening even so late into the year. We're

still getting some EV bombshells being dropped, which I'm sure will cover later on tonight as well.

Correct. So much happening even at this late stage of the year. Indeed, I've been away everyone.

So just got back from Japan a couple of days ago. Just a couple of weeks there,

chilling with the family. We'll put some videos up very shortly to document our experience.

We had a week in Tokyo and a week in Sapporo and Hokkaido. So it was good to see. A lot

of K cars, Riz, you would have enjoyed it. Lots of little boxy little cars driving

around Tokyo. It was good fun. That's it. Just electrify them and bring them over.

We needed no idea. That's it. Not many EVs, I must say. I saw a few hybrids, obviously.

It had been a couple of Teslas, but not a lot of the EVs that we are lucky enough to get here

in Australia. So, yeah, but otherwise, good time in Japan. Let's welcome our other guest

for this evening, of course, the one only Roland. Hello, Roland. How are we?

Hey, Tom. Hey, Riz. Hey, everyone. I'm good. How are you?

Not too bad. Sorry. We're blocking Roland's name tonight,

but he is from Zapt YouTube channel, so make sure you subscribe to his channel.

Link in the video description, I believe. So, yeah, check that out, everyone.

You've been good otherwise, Roland?

Yeah, no complaints. Can't believe that we're pretty much a week out from the new year,

but, yes, still lots of news coming. Absolutely. Yeah, that's right.

It's been hot, hasn't it? I've been quite warm and Sydney. I'm sure you have too, Roland.

Yeah, I'll just check my phone, actually, before we tip off. And it says it's 23 degrees,

but then there's a warning underneath that says, extreme heat. So,

I'm sticking to my aircon staying on at this point in time.

Absolutely. I might turn mine on very soon, actually.

But yeah, not too bad in this room, but it is done in steam. But what about you,

are you in Melbourne? Nice and warm down there, or?

No, it's cool. It's cool. Apparently, Christmas Day is going to be under 20 degrees.

So, very different to what a year ago, I think I was on the beach on Christmas Day,

just a bit more east off to Rack East. So, yeah, it's going to be, it's a little bit

cool. But yeah, I'm hearing lots of warm and hot parts of Australia at the moment. So,

stay cool, people. Stay cool.

Stay cool, absolutely. Let's say hello to some of our regular guests, as always.

Let's say hello to Xander. Hello, Xander. Good evening from a hot and humid Sydney. Yes,

I jumped in the pool today. Was very much welcome. Hello, it's only Dale from Canberra.

Cool, Dale. That's good. Good to hear. Yes, and also Gene, happy Festivus, of course.

Happy Festivus to you as well, Gene. And G'day, Richard. Nice to see you. And Midge,

hello. Hello, nice to see you as well. Hello, Matthew. Good to see you. And yes,

I'm sorry, it is a Monday, not a Wednesday. But we thought we'd do something different

this time of year. Hello, Senecro. Hello, Pauline. Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining us.

So nice and early. Hello, Evie. And hello, Steve from the Central Coast. Hi, everyone.

All right. Yes, I want to put this up, actually. It looks like JQJ5. Evie released today.

Phenomenal pricing, $38,000. I saw that today. That is unreal. Really throws us

better in the works for that mid, small to mid-sized SUV, guys. It's very good to

see the prices coming down. Now, this car does not feel cheap. On the inside,

it is very, very well equipped. Heated and cooled front seats, cooled, especially given the

time of the year. I was in Sydney last Wednesday, and it was very well appreciated that it had

cooled seats as well. And yeah, just attending that little launch event was quite interesting,

because usually they do the product presentation and then share the price, and then you go for a test

drive. But they decided to skip that and said, hey, take it for a spin first, and then come back,

and then we'll do the presentation. We'll reveal the price. And driving that car,

I swear, most of the time I was thinking I'd be shocked if it's under $45,000

before on roads. And then they announced $37,990 or $36,999. Can't remember exactly how much.

That's drive away. So just, yeah, a lot of car. It doesn't look like it's skimping out

on much. It's got power tailgate. It's got folding mirror mirrors. I mentioned heated front and

cooled front seats. Pretty good, even though it's not genuine leather, pretty good fake leather

seats as such. And yeah, I couldn't really find much of a flaw. And they've learned a lot from

Cherry's E5, a moda that they launched, I think just over a year ago. So a lot of the bings

and bongs are pretty much gone. So yeah, definitely worth test driving. And I think

it will be at the showrooms next month. So first 1000 customers get that special price

and 80 years warranty and 80 years cap price servicing as well.

Fantastic. That's good to hear, Riz. Yeah, I've got a press car coming up next

month. So looking forward to testing that in Sydney. But just looking at my spreadsheet now for

the EVs, in that sort of 4.5 or 4.6 meter length, there is not a car that can be driven away

for that price for that size. So that is a phenomenal effort from J.Coo and Cherry.

And that will certainly give the likes of Gilly EX5, what else? GSE Ion V even,

even the MGS5, give them all for a run for their money, which is good.

And reminds me of a Land Rover too. Sorry, Roland. So let's go ahead.

Yeah, I was saying solid package, especially with 80 years warranty included, like,

with that price these days, you know, you've got other brands doing four years, five years,

and then just launching with a great price and then going, nah, just have 80 years too.

Yeah, exactly. It's very hard to argue for that kind of money for the kind of car as well. So

yeah, looking forward to seeing that on the road. Like I said, for a test drive on the

channel soon. So stay tuned for that, guys. But yes, thank you for highlighting that for us,

Simon. Appreciate that. Alrighty, well, let's keep pushing on. We've got lots to talk about,

as we said. And I just wanted to also give a shout out to Riz, because I think he was spotted in,

I don't know where this was, but look, just bringing his spectra out for a bit of a drive,

Hollywood Riz spotted around, around town. Yeah, yeah, I had to show my chauffeur how to charge it.

So he was just standing on that curb having a look and I'm just showing him this is how

you plug it in. It's a new one. Usually I go all purple. This is a bit of a purple and white

town going on there. Two-tone goodness. Why not? It's Christmas. It's hard to complain about DC

charging prices when you've got a million dollar calories, isn't it? Well, that's right. That's

right. That's why I try and go to the most expensive one being BP Pulse. That's right.

Hi, Rollers all around. Now, Richard's saying, has anyone actually seen an Ato one in the showrooms

yet? Anybody at all? Leave a comment below. I don't think they're out just yet. But Riz,

you've driven one, I think, on the track and in China, I believe as well. So,

could you test them in the real roads here too? I think definitely worth testing in the

real world. I haven't even tested driven the Ato two on real roads. I think Tom, you have.

No, my better half has. Joy has. She drove it across town. She loved it.

Yes, we need to get the Ato one into Joy's hands as well. So, you get her take on it. And then,

Tom, when she's done with it, you can have a go as well and then let us know what you think.

Yeah, we know who wears the pants, right? I get the seconds in the household here.

James says, those Rolls owners need premium DC, none of that mainstream

energy, right? Maybe premium unleaded kind of DC or super DC, maybe.

That's not coloring. The handle is red or gold.

That's right. Better quality electrons, correct.

Too funny. But yes, on a serious note, obviously, all electrons are electrons.

It's the great equalizer that comes with EV ownership, correct? No such thing as different

types of fuels. I just wanted to quickly, if you guys don't mind me indulging, we had a

post from Jay, can't see his name there. There you go, Jay. He was in the top 0.1% of viewers

for the channel. So, watching all 200, well, 232 videos this year in 2025. So, thank you,

Jay. Much appreciated viewers like yourself being committed to the channel. Much appreciated. Thank

you. Now, Roland, you might help us with this one. So, I think you did a video on this.

You went to visit the new Kellyville Amphol EV charging units. How'd you go with that?

So, it's advertised as 150 kilowatts. I had my Model Y there and hit about 78, 79 kilowatts.

I think a couple of things. The conversation is still going on X, but Scott went there

today. So, the context is on the app, it said it was 8 CCS2 reports, but when I went there,

I didn't look at the app yet until I started the charging, but seeing the pictures on the actual

handles, it showed CCS and char demo. And so, in my head, I'm going, it's 2025. You're building a site

that's quite busy. Eight is a good number to have, considering a lot of the shopping centers

locally only have two, if not maybe four. Like the Tesla Supercharger in the hills has,

I think four or five and it has eight. So, it seemed odd that it was four CCS2 and four char demo,

but he's confirmed he's got a picture in the latest post. It's confirmed that it's eight CCS2

reports. Yeah, there we go. So, not char demoes, but someone's clearly put the wrong stickers on,

unless it's stuck onto the cabinets. Yeah, thank you, Scott, for the detective work

indeed. They are indeed CCS2 plugs, but yeah, it's, look, I think this is a nice surprise,

honestly. Look, no, I'm going to get some hate from char demo owners, but it is 2025, as you said,

Roland. I think there are a lot more CCS2 cars around. So, it makes sense. Maybe one char demo

port might be good, but yeah, look, I think most people agree that's kind of our de facto DC

standard at the moment in Australia. So, good to see eight available for use in Calivo,

up in the heart of the hills. It's great. It's a lot for us, more shopping center,

to be honest. So, and I'm surprised that you came up that quick. I think it was

roughly a month or so for the entire thing, maybe two months at tops.

How big is Calivo Village? Is it like a suburban kind of shops, like just Coles and Audi or Woolies?

Yeah, so there's an Audi, which is a bit separated. Within the same precinct, you've got

Coles, Woolies, and then just random takeaway shops, three clothing stores, and they're like

similar to that. Yeah, so it's not a massive one. Yeah, like a classic suburban kind of

shopping center, which is good. Yeah, it's great. Eight ports. It's fantastic.

Great for eight, to be honest. Yeah. I know. Exactly. You might be visiting family up there

or staying the night somewhere up there. So yeah, it's good. I know all of you guys are

good big mansions up there with off-street parking, but you know, it's good to also have

some public DC fast chargers too. James says, Ampore fully committed to rolling out plenty

of Amp charge across our cities. Yeah, I agree. Doing some good stuff there, Ampore.

And just an update on the Atto-1 situation. So Santa's saying, first Atto-1's arriving on

shore this week. 150 of them for dealership demos, stock delayed till January. Okay, January?

That's not too far away. Coming soon. Indeed. Yeah, EVAs agreeing too. Great to see Ampore

expanding beyond the servo locations. That's true actually. This is off-site,

off-piste so to speak. This is not at an Ampore service station,

which we are very happy to see indeed. Thanks for reminding us. Steve's saying some

Ampore charters also going into Batto Bay as well. Yep.

Let's have a look. Any more comments here? Must have plenty of power capacity to go

straight to eight. That's true. That is true. I wonder if there's any power sharing

that's going on, Roland. Maybe it's like 75 if it's split or...

Could be. I mean, my state of charge when I started was about 66 and then it was about

78, 79 kilowatts peak. So may have to go for another visit with a lower state of charge

to see if the potential gets to closer to that 150 mark.

Well, Necro's saying 150 split to two. Sorry, Riz, go on.

No, no. All good. I'm listening. Yeah.

And Evie is asking, when will Tesla show them in their charging locations?

Yeah, that's true. That is... It's not... The third-party DC chargers aren't

in the Tesla map yet, is it? In the car? As far as I know.

I think they were starting to put some in from memory.

Be good if you can... Like what do you call it? Pre-condition the car as well

for a third-party charger. That'd be handy.

Yeah, hopefully Victoria can get more sites, Riz. You guys in New South Wales and Queensland

getting you guys for six, unfortunately, with chargers.

It's a sensitive topic. James in Victoria here, I think our government's got other

priorities such as opening tunnels and opening few tunnels, trains, and for cars

in the last two months. And I think Evie's are on the back burner, so to speak.

So to speak, yeah. Evie, as I was saying, some are referring to third-party DC chargers

on the Tesla now, if that's good. And it looks like Evie's showing up on the map.

That's good. Good. Okay, we're getting there at least.

Now, speaking of chargers, this is a little bit away from Kellyville,

probably away from most capital setters, actually. This is some interesting photos

shared to Riz from a viewer of ours. I think it's Hunter Riz, I believe.

Yeah, Hunter Murray is very well known up in the territory, so he's sent some stuff through

today. Apparently, this is near Ares Rock. Wow.

Okay. Is that the Ares Rock airport? I think it's still called Ares Rock, isn't it? The airport?

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure of the exact location. He sort of mentioned the town in

brackets he said Ares Rock. So, yeah, it was being constructed with the solar canopy set up.

I think there's a generator and a whole lot of other things going on as well. I think there's got

pixie batteries as well there, as battery sort of augmented chargers. So, yeah, quite a cool

setup. And I think if I look closely, there might be Sinex cell chargers as well. They don't

look like your conventional sort of alchemic or ABVs. So, yeah, it's a pretty cool sort of setup

they've got there. A whole bunch of solar panels too next to the servo, which is good. Officially,

it's in the town of, let me just have a look, Yulara, Yulara, which is apparently you can

see Uluru in the background somewhere. I haven't seen it yet, but if you spot Uluru in one of

these photos, let us know. And of course, formerly known as Ares Rock, but Uluru these days. And

there you go. Nice setup with the solar. Of course, I mean, there's like so much sun out there,

right? It would make sense to chuck a few solar panels there and shade it as well, of course.

You need definitely shade out there. There are the panels going in and being lifted in as well.

There we go. Another nice wide shot. Some good stuff starting to happen up in the territory

now. I think all the territories really, they've got over 1100 EVs across the whole territory, but

charging sites are starting to become common. Of course, in remote areas as well, it makes travel

a whole lot easier. A couple of weeks ago, there was a site spotted as well, a Tesla

Supercharger site near Darwin Airport. So, yeah, quite a lot of activities starting to happen.

They were just great because quite a few of the car brands have showrooms and dealerships

up in the territory. And a lot of them are starting to bring EVs into the market as well.

So, good to have this charging infrastructure to see that in no town, get more EV adoption,

but also for tourists and others to make it easier for them to visit some of Australia's most

iconic places. And looks like this is a genuine EV charger with a backup battery as opposed to,

I think, the other Northern Territory charger. How was the South Australia? Had the diesel generator

in the background? Oh, yeah. I think that one once, I think it was a WA or South Australia

site that had that. But this looks like it's a proper, proper setup. And this might be

generation two or generation three off their NRMA's remote sort of site design,

which they would have learned from those other chargers that, let's say, didn't really work very

well back in the day. Okay. So, Richard's saying this site also has a diesel generator. Okay.

White box on the far left. Okay. All right. There you go. Backup for the backup. That's

it. I'm happy to have a backup in the Northern Territory, honestly. It's a no joke. So,

it's fine. I'd rather just get a charge. There it is there. So, I've no problems with that at all.

Yeah. So that is it. Great photos from Hunter. Thank you, Hunter. Thank you, Riz, for sharing

this as well. You did mention that Tesla has got its first supercharger in the Northern

Territory. So, that is good to see. So, this is still under development, I believe. It is,

yeah. Yeah. So, that's good. That's good. It's up in Darwin. So, that's great to see.

Territory is not being forgotten by Tesla or other third parties, which is good.

And speaking of which, yeah. Tesla opens almost 50 new supercharger stores ahead of the summer rush,

right, Riz? Yeah. That was just this month. A fair few sites have opened, including that large

Cops Harbor One. That picture there is up from our charger up at Cairns. This would be, you

know, I guess, one of the most Northern charging sites that are open now. And according to,

I think, one of the supercharger deployment managers on X, you can now travel from Adelaide

all the way up to Cairns using the Tesla supercharger network without really stopping,

obviously, if you're stopping for a charge, but just using that, you can hop along. And

I did a quick search on Google Maps going through, you know, Adelaide to Melbourne to Canberra,

Sydney, Brisbane, Cairns. And Google says it will take you 46 hours to get there,

over 4,000 kilometers. But we're charging stops. And, you know, I think, you know,

you could do the trip in 50 odd hours, obviously, having some more time to rest in between that,

but it can be done, which is great. And this is the Cops Harbor site, I think, behind the Big

Banana. So Cops Harbor is replete with superchargers now. You've got the shopping centre,

you've got these ones, and you've got the Moody Beach. So lots of locations to choose from.

So, yeah, up the Pacific Motorway, very easy drive now from Sydney to Brisbane. So very

good. And Richard says, just to clarify, Riz's point, you can drive actually from Port Augusta

to Cairns, which is very impressive. That's just under a half a lap of Australia. It's very good.

Yes. And I know Richard's done Port Augusta back to Melbourne in a pretty quick sprint back in

the day. So, yeah, he knows what he's talking about. Thanks, Richard. Good clarification there.

I'll just quickly go back to this article because we've got more pictures of different sites.

So that's the Cops Harbor one that you've got. This is Miranda in the south of Sydney,

up the showroom there. So six at the showroom, very handy. And then this is in Canaver,

I'm sorry if I pronounced that wrong, in Victoria, 10 stalls.

And that is in Jinjin Queensland. More V4 shells there, which is good.

And Camilla in Queensland as well, three stalls. That looks like a bit of a drop-in one, Riz.

One of those, what do they call them? Prefab. Prefab. I love our prefabs.

That is Mount Sheridan. Is that the can? That was the Cairns one, wasn't it?

Yeah, that was the Cairns one. Yeah, cool. Cool. Thanks, Riz. Thanks for sharing that.

That's quite a few Queensland ones, see? They are sharing the love.

That's right. And Richard says Port Augusta has been a one-day 1,100k drive from Melbourne

for many years. That's phenomenal effort. Huge drive. Huge drive.

Now, just staying with Chargers, I just wanted to put this one up here. So I saw this when I was

away, hit my inbox. I'm sure you guys saw this as well. This is Jolt saying they will now be

charging a $1.99 service fee to their free 7kWh per day plan. So those days of free

charging, unfortunately, are probably gone for now. I think it's about, what is it,

just under $0.30 per kilowatt hour if you sort of divide $1.99 into 7. So a bit cheeky there from Jolt.

It's still free if you listen to them. It's still free.

Still free. The donation was a bit odd.

I tried to gloss it over with some nice Christmas wording. But yeah, look, it's

been a nice service for many years, well, a couple of years at least anyway. But

yeah, look, it's still good to see all these Chargers around these, what do you call them,

the distribution box Chargers, seeing them in our area as well. So handy to have. I think it'd

be good to have them near like suburban shopping center like Rowland's, you know,

Kellyville Village, that kind of thing. If you can top up for like half an hour, go and get a

roast chicken and veggies or whatever for the dinner and then come back, cast top up a little

bit. So yeah, it's good to see. Then you pay $0.58 per kilowatt hours, Richard, for the rest of your

charge. That's expensive. Is it? Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah, for 20-something kilowatts,

that's expensive. You're right. I was going to say it's still cheaper than when I charged at the

AMP charge we just showed earlier. That was $0.75. Now, we can't complain. There's roles

Royce owners, guys. Like, come on. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. BP Pulse, you know, the high octane

electrons that I'm getting pumping into the specter, they're getting close to $0.90 a kilowatt hour.

That's right. Are we at $0.95 electrons? Okay, so Christmas time comes around,

which means Tesla have released their holiday update or rolling out shortly across the fleet,

which is good. So from what I've seen, a few nice goodies there as usual. Tesla doesn't disappoint.

What have we got here? So showing free superchargers stalls, I think. And see if we park there,

I think, like you can just select one and it will automatically park there, something along

those lines. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So here we go, share charging data, Crocs in there as well,

help with navigation. That's probably US only, US Canada. So they've got accessible parking

mark there as well in that photo there or in that picture. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, in Australia,

with the version that we've got at the moment of FSD, sometimes it chooses to reverse into

a spot, which it doesn't know it's an accessible spot. So it's good to see that

they're taking that into consideration and new versions of the software plus also with FSD

sort of evolving as well. Hopefully we'll know not to park in those spots in the future.

That's right. And lots of options there, which is good. And also, what's this one? This is

easier century mode. What do you call it? It's the top on this one, Tom, the screenshot.

So they have now include the speed. So right in the middle of the screenshot,

I think it's a bit hard to see because of the Christmas decoration, but there's the speed. It

tells you if you're on self driving or not. And then on the top right is the angle of the steering

wheel. So if you're turning your steering wheel, it shows you the angle. It then shows you the

indicators. And then on the left side is if you've stepped on the brake pedal and the

right side, if you're accelerating. Yep, we'll just move Christmas for a sec so we can see.

Good. Yeah, this is kind of more in line with conventional dash cam information. So yeah,

it's good to see that. Otherwise, it's just previously just like a video with not much

information. And then more fun stuff like I think selfie mode. It's like photo booth now.

Cool stickers like that. Just reading the notes here as well. So Santa mode,

like show you up sort of standard stuff for Christmas updates. There's a super charger

sitemap 3d view of all the superchargers that we're talking about earlier. Phone left behind

chime. So that's that's quite standard actually in some of the Chinese EVs now. So let's get

that in there. Charging location. Yep, good. So it's sort of small and quality of life

improvement stuff as well. Yeah, dog mode improvements. Good. Anybody received an update

yet at all? I think someone in the chat said they've just received it or it's starting to come through

now. That's good. Oh, there you go. FST. Sorry, Christmas update. Just dropped it, helped with

an accident one hour after I installed it. Good. Okay. Well, that's that's good, at least

everyone's safe. That's good, James. Excellent. Okay, Michael saying all the J5 videos have

dropped today. Excellent. 36k drive away as we said earlier. Very good.

Good. Okay, only hardware three has received the holiday update so far. Okay, interesting.

Interesting. Okay, so let's talk about some spy shots. So we have seen

the Xiaomi Su7 facelift spotted. Looks like in China. Rumors Q2 next year, Roland.

Yes, faster charging, new aerodynamics. I mean, it's still hard to see like trying to work it out

based on all of that camera, but you can tell it's a Xiaomi car. There's no doubt about it. It

is what it is. So yeah, exciting. I mean, look, they can't keep up with demand, but they're

releasing a new one. So fingers crossed that continues to improve in terms of the scaling and

then we maybe get a chance one day. One day. One day. That's a typical China time, isn't it?

Like can't keep up with demand. We'll put a new one out just to keep everyone interested.

Faster charging, like it's already charging pretty quick. So curious to see how much faster

we can get. Like even with the Zika 7x, as I showed everyone, 10 minutes,

was 11 minutes for 20 to 80. I think it's going to be like that. So that's already very fast.

So yeah, good to see. I have to make another trip, guys, to China to have a look at that. I'm sure

next year fingers crossed. And Genesis GV60 spotted overseas with the Hyundai end brakes.

The Magma edition. So this is the fast one. So this is basically Genesis version of the

IONIQ 5N. But it was odd that it was spotted with the Hyundai end brakes.

Yes, they're the same company, essentially, but being out in the wild, one would expect it to

be either covered up or removed. Just for you, Roland. Roland spec. End brakes.

Yeah, yeah. And more spy shots. So Daz has shown us that the 8x has been spied as well

to be announced at next year's Beijing auto show. Let's have a look. Definitely some engineering

shots there. Oh, that's an exhaust pipe. That's the PHEV. It would be a failure.

Yeah, okay. Still a nice looking car. Look at those wheels, man. Seriously, are they lit too?

Just look cool. Very nice. We should also spend some time on the battery rebate update.

So you guys might have heard the rebate has, well, we'll be changing starting May next year.

So it'll be, I guess, less incentivized to order a big battery.

And the rebates are dropping every six months as opposed to every year.

But they've also increased the pool as well. I think it was 4.9, no, additional 4.9 billion, sorry.

Yeah, 2.3 to 7.2 billion. So the days of those big batteries may come to a close,

because it's not as good as it was. But still, if you want a smaller battery,

it's still probably worth looking at, I think, very soon before they reduce the amount of

rebate. You basically got till April if you want to get a massive battery,

because then that's when the new changes make it not as worthwhile.

Yep. As I said, every six months, it's going to be dropping as well. So

it's quite a quick change, isn't it? Like they kind of promised every year would drop, but

maybe the uptake was more than they expected initially.

I just think it was poorly designed, the whole policy, because if they didn't want people to

go and put 50, 60 kilowatt hour sort of battery packs in their home, they should have had some sort

of a cap on top of that. I think we've got some of the biggest batteries in the world now,

early adopters, myself included. Forget about community battery. Every home is a community now.

I'm a power plant sitting right here at home. That's right.

I think last week while I was away watching the spikes, we got like 150 bucks in two days,

it was great. But yeah, so there you go. I think now's a good time if you really want those big

batteries to get in there before it drops significantly over time.

So just to extrapolate on that, so up to 14 kilowatt hours from May onwards 100%,

and then from 14 to 28, 60%, and then 28 to 50%, it's 15%. So it's quite a big drop after it.

Yeah, so here we go. It's only down since they based the discount on 2023 prices,

so it made them way too cheap. And that's right, only about 100,000 of them have already been

installed. Cool. Yep, been hammering my 50 kilowatt hour system, great price, I agree.

Too good to miss. That's all we got on. And any sign of V2G hardware being eligible for the

battery grant. Yeah, I don't think so. Richard, I haven't heard otherwise unless

there is all rolling, you've heard anything to that? Yeah, cool. We'll keep an eye on that,

Richard, and post in the new year, of course, if we see anything. And just to wrap up the

show guys, this is Tesla Model Y standard now available in the UK. Now, is this the basic

Tesla Model Y we've been talking about this year? Yeah, that's the standard base base sort of Model Y.

With the no screen and the cover over the glass roof, that kind of thing.

That's the one. Yeah. Is this a subscription? I'm just seeing £2.99 per month.

It would be a lease of some sort. I think the actual price is still considerably cheaper over

what used to be the rear wheel drive, which is now the premium.

That's right. Well, I guess if you want to get into a base base model, essential Model Y.

If it's coming to the UK, then I'm sure the Australia will get it pretty soon as well,

given that we're a right hand drive market, I would have thought.

Tuffy, Roland, sorry. I was going to say, did you have the article on the YL,

the six-seater one? Oh, is there news on that?

That apparently got approved for EU. Okay, let's have a look.

Yeah, so that's been approved for EU, so it's likely to come to other parts of the world as well.

Hopefully, if it's made in Shanghai, so you'd like to think it's something that Tesla will

think about for the Australian market next year. Yeah, I'm just looking at the search

results now. So, yes, it looks like it was pretty fresh news.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, look, it'd be good to see. I wouldn't mind seeing that in person to see how

big that third row is. Yeah, you did get in it to really know. I've seen the videos of the

original seven-seater, and I don't think I could fit in there.

No, I wouldn't want to either, facing backwards.

But yeah, I mean, most six-seven-seaters, six-seven, you probably wouldn't want to spend too long on

that third row. So, yeah, you'd have to put kids in there, I guess, or small adults.

Alrighty, we'll keep an eye on that one. See if there's any... Well, we'll get Roland to keep

an eye on it with ADR approvals. Let's test them on the YL and the standard one.

A lot.

All right, I'm going to put the Christmas overlay back on because I'm missing that. Let's see.

Let's put that one on. There we go. This is courtesy of StreamYard.

All right, well, gents, I think that might be enough for today. We have got one more show for the

rest of 2025, so next Monday we're doing another show at the same time, 9 p.m.,

and we'll do a final wrap up then. But as I said earlier, for everyone who is celebrating

Christmas, Merry Christmas to you and to your loved ones, I hope you've enjoyed the show

this year so far. I think 2026 is going to be a huge year, guys. We haven't seen anything yet,

honestly. There's so much more to come, I reckon.

Massive. I think next year we're going to get to about 130,000 to 140,000 new EVs making it

onto our roads. This year, we'll just tick over 100,000. So, yeah, with the type of

charging infrastructure we've spoken about on today's episode and everything we've been

covering and everything our audience and others have been sharing as well. I think it's going to get

it's just the start of what's to come, particularly with affordability as well. So,

yeah, keep doing the good work, everyone, sharing the good vibes around electric cars.

Yeah, Michael makes a good point. I would love to see the Xinyan or the Geely EX2,

the Firefly, the Ato1. These are all cute little cars. I want to see them

on our streets. Yeah, Michael, Radara, you'd bring it. That's right. And yes, that's right.

Seeker 7 GT. Bring it. 7 GT or not. It's got to be. We've got all the little

smaller ones coming in now. So, we've had the big Model Y competitors then got the smaller ones.

Competition is heating up and actually another segment that I would like to see grow

just because I want more people to have electric cars is these tri-hard off-roading looking EVs.

So, the iCar by Cherry and Bao Jun Yep, which is basically the electric Gemini and

Galaxy, Geely, I think. Yeah, that's exactly those sort of off-roading

type of vehicles. If they can start to make it as well, I think it

competition will naturally drive those sort of models into our market. So, yeah, if we can

fill those segments that people have no real excuses to say, oh my, the car that I want isn't

in an electric car yet. So, we'll watch this space. And we don't want like a makeshift

test drive in some makeshift off-road track. We want these companies to bring us to

Inner Mongolia somewhere really rugged and just test these and really let people know EVs can

do that really kind of real off-road stuff. So, yeah, that's right, really good call.

Absolutely. All right, Gentsville wishing you guys a merry Christmas, happy holiday,

all the rest of it and have a good break this week with your loved ones. And

Riz, Roland, we shall see you next Monday. See you next time. Thank you. See you guys.

Have a good one and thank you to our sponsors once again. See you guys and

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