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One thousand cars sir you have a thousand cars I don't think I'd attempt to try this

stunt or we owe this horsepower to Uncle Sam's too big a car like I put my beer belly on

it you can't immediately tell somebody how many cars you have you'll really give those

up in a yuffy something to think about stay on the bar don't go off the bar with your Bronco

1980 Volvo horns what's right man's coolant he's like oh I thought I'd be small it's for a

small car and oh yeah but it's still an automatic transmission they're never gonna be light it's

definitely gonna have to crash starting off with Brad by another car that's the west

internet she knows this is Nigerian oil print I also wish you drove a tan Camry anyways

that's a very horrible podcast content very inside job they love to be driven hard

alright we'll do auto off topic what's up Brad oh not much Andrew how you doing today

I'm doing great doing great you know I was reminded I've had several vehicles that have

had enough mileage to go to the moon because okay I was reminded because we were just they're

now talking about this in the news that the Artemis 2 rocket launched oops and they're

250,000 miles to the moon in six days which is pretty impressive so yeah it's a lot of miles

in six days that's really fast yeah but it's just funny because you can like think of it in that

manner sometimes you have a super high mileage car you're like how many times has it been to the

moon you haven't had that many cars that have gone that far only a few Monterra was garage

which one there on the silver Monterra yep okay the Mirage yeah that was up 220 250 yeah

no it was like 245 when it got told okay almost there almost made it um

my Corolla the 80 Corolla wagon yeah that's been there twice yeah that car's got like

615,000 miles in the jazzy yeah it's like two and a half times yeah but other than that everything

else has been pretty low compared to my blue WRX was did I get rid of that before 200 I think I

just hit 200k with that car and then I got rid of it Naomi Sonata oh yeah that had a lot right

yeah 250 wasn't it like well Jordan still drives that car I think it's like 280 now

there you go it's on the way back yeah return trip it's taking way more than six years though

six days excuse me way more than six days so still the car is uh 2011 so it's what it's almost

antique but yeah no I haven't had too many of them gone that far but the cool thing is

is that we live in a time when cars can go that far yeah you know it used to be once you triggered

over five digits in your odometer went back to zero again because cars were running back to last

that long so we'll take it oh yeah well speaking to cars with mileage unknown true mileage unknown

is my uh Volvo I've been working on sure no what's the project would you have to get a project

car updates right away might as well and I know I'm seeing it um because I actually have been working

on it so miracle of miracles the weather has broken yeah and I plan on working on it again

this Saturday so because I made some decent progress on it and of course I'm gonna have to

take a few steps back as usual so uh you know I go over there I'm looking at it and there's like

some coolant under the front of the car I'm like that's kind of weird I don't know what that's

from but there was two coolant bottles there I was like maybe one tipped over and it's built or

something uh you also had an issue with a coolant leak from your water pump when you first put it

in I did and our friend Jared was over there with me and he helped me push it back into place

me tighten it and seal the back up and we had the car running and there was no leaks and I was

looking at the front of the timing case all under the engine in front by the oil pan like

everything running my hand on there nothing was completely dry no no dried coolant I'm looking

at the radiator hoses there's no crusty dried coolant there's no wet coolant like this is really

weird but whatever so there was a drain pan too that was got pushed back uh that I had when it was

dripping because stuff got stuffed up under there uh it had some coolant in it I was like all right

I think that's from something else we were draining coolant out of so I dried it out I put it back

under the front of the engine because it was kind of like it was really far forward it wasn't under

the engine it didn't seem to be under like the radiator it was very strange sounds like all right

whatever um so I left it there I went back to do what I was doing I drained the fuel tank

using that little electric transfer pump got basically all the fuel out of it so it's got no

fuel in it I got to finish putting that was the fuel in the tank oh it's not like paint like paint

thinner but it was clear it just smelled like paint thinner so not a lot of like sediment or

garbage in the tank no well I pulled it through the filter that was on there and I had the clear

filter before the pump but it looked clean my guess is not long before we got possession of the car

I think it ran I think the plates were fairly recent I think everything ran until it overheated

died I have the plate sitting in front of me on my desk June of 23 is that yeah so my my guess is

that it ran fairly recently in order to uh so it may not be a huge issue unlike my fuel tanks

in the starry end of the red 50 because when did I buy it was that 24 or 25 I think it was 24 that

we picked it up around this time it was it was Easter weekend 24 okay so it was only a year out

expired and then so maybe it sat for two years three years uh we can assume

and then it sat for most I think 24 and then I worked at the end of 24 and all of 25

the previous owner had passed away in like 21 or 22 right something like that father of the

previous owner and we know the father was the guy who drove the car yeah my guess is it the the

son inherited the car drove it until it died and he's not mechanically inclined and that's when

the sale process started and eventually turned into your car my my main guess is that the

father lived in alaska father passed away maybe the son lived down here somewhere

car got shipped down here to let you know yeah that's my that's my my working theory of the car

yeah well I shouldn't say I'm not sure I got here I know how it got to Peabody but I'm not sure

yes I got to Arizona yeah because it it started in San Francisco right but yeah so that's

well let me like dig my my guess even further back is that we know that the original owner

of the car was in San Francisco and my guess is that he retired to Alaska and then passed away

and his son lived here in Phoenix and the car was shipped here when he passed away when he inherited

it drove it till it died and then didn't know how to fix it and sold it off to the that wheel

company who used it for I guess wheel sizing I don't know but maybe they wanted to build it who knows

but anyway regardless it's yours now it's almost running so you know I gotta put a fuel pump on it

or no sorry fuel filter I'm gonna replace the fuel filter I was I didn't I stopped before doing that

on Saturday because I didn't have I didn't bring my box cutters the hose was so crummy I was like

I'll just cut the hose off the factory line instead of trying to pull it off you want to break the

factory line I was like let me just stop I'll come back on Monday and do this so then I went inside

the car and at that point our buddy Jared had joined me again came over just kind of helped me

look into the dash looking at all the wires all the extra wiring we basically went in there I

didn't repair anything we just pruned out all the extra wires that don't belong because you can kind

tell like look at the stuff that had wire nuts and vamp clamps and you're like that's not factory

snip snip sip so it went from being like a real anxiety inducing like mess of wires to

it's pretty empty and it's just the factory wiring there and it doesn't look that bad to fix all

so it's almost good that they messily added things to it because it was easy to take them back out

again yeah yeah the sad thing is that the licucaracha horns will never play licucaracha again

no but I think I figured out why the factory horns don't work is that the ground is not attached to

the clock spring or the um what do you call that for the horn wheel or the the round part where it

makes contact is that that's not the clock spring is that on the horn contact on a modern car it

would be a clock spring but yeah doesn't the older car have a clock spring like I think clock spring

has to do with uh clock spring came into effect when you had like multi-function switches and air

bags I think yeah I can't maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong like I don't know for a fact I'm completely

blanking on what that is but yeah it's the horn contact the contact ring yeah that spins the wheel

it's not grounded and I think it was the clock spring then I so somebody's gonna yell at us now

because we don't know this back but I think I see the wire that's bringing a modern car yeah I think

I see the wire that's cut and I have to put a new speed connector on it so I think the horns will

work pretty easily looking at the the fuses I've got the wiring diagrams which are cool because I

I found them online ever because the car's old enough people have actually PDF them so that's

pretty sweet it looks like all the wiring is in the right place mostly I do want to replace the

ceramic fuses that sit into those spreadable brass tabs with an actual uh fuse panel so

that'll be a little bit of a work because some of the fuses according to the wiring diagrams are

bussed together so I'll have to do some little jumpers to make them work but it should be pretty

straightforward it's actually there's a metal plate that is screwed to the heater core box

that's right behind it and hangs down and that's what the fuses were screwed to

and the fuse panel so I took it took it out it was really easy to take it was just two screws

and I measured it up kind of traced it and I you know I you can get a free on shape account which

is CAD software you can run through your browsers you can use it on basically any computer and it's

free for personal use which is pretty cool so I drew up you know the the one that came out of

the car is a slight bend to it which is fine I can bend sheet metal with my hands it's not very

thick so I don't have to worry about bends but I basically drew it up and I sent a newer version

to send cut send because the the fuse panel is the same width the new one is the same width as

the old one but the way it would mount is further out so I just needed a couple little tabs added

to this piece and um I don't know just to exercise and teach myself how to use CAD and it's a simple

it's a simple enough design that's a good way to like start learning programs because you know

for your car operators too I think didn't you I did but I ended up not needing to ask you plate um

what am I gonna call it the uh thermal break we're doing bad with names of things today yeah

I'm tired I'm tired today yeah but you know here's the thing like with shipping and so

that it's gonna come pre-cut uh and pre-cut with holes for a couple of rivnuts uh and powder coated

black with shipping it's like 32 bucks or yeah around like 40 bucks for shipping so like yeah

it's way less than your time yeah well yeah I spent a few hours in CAD playing with it but

like yeah if I needed to go buy some sheet metal and then cut the sheet metal and like

it'd still be about that same price I guess but yeah AB probably 25 bucks in raw material plus

that wouldn't even be powder coated plus another seven bucks in paint so oh good job even black

paint now I think it's 12 bucks I actually bought I bought rattle cans today they're at Home Depot

here anyway they were it was 13 something for two cans yeah well I like the VHD epoxy paint for

stuff like that but just like probably like 15 bucks now it's but anyway we record now using

video so I was doing a a little old fancy pants guy like emotion but remembering that this is not

a video podcast not a podcast nobody saw that we don't pay for the extra for video right maybe

someday we will that's for the fake patreon subscribers we also don't admit that video

podcasts are a thing because we don't like them so no because why do you want to watch the two of

us talk you can just listen I don't want to do something else yeah yeah watch us right now

yeah I don't even want to look at you right now video off so yeah that's a good little exercise

I'm going to work on that Saturday start switching over the wires hopefully that piece

lines up the way I intended it to it should be simple enough it's just a pretty straightforward

piece of metal so then I was like all right I'm not going to do the because I had gone over there

with the intention of like I'm actually going to switch the wires but I realized that I couldn't

bolt the fuse panel in I was like oh I don't want to mess with this right now I'm going to wait I'll

come back when I can actually mount the fuse panel in place so then I looked in the drain pan

under the hood or under the car and had coolant in it I was like okay so something's leaking man I

forgot I forgot this whole story started with the leaking coolant I already in my brain we've already

got past this and it's fixed everything's fine we went in the wire we're back to right back to the

coolant yeah because it I actually found coolant leaking in the drain pan I'm like all right well

something's leaking this is really weird so I'm like looking all over there's only a few coolant

spots in the front of the engine I'm looking everywhere for coolant looking where it was leaking

before on the water pump nothing looking at all the hoses nothing squeezing the hoses

the top hose of my hand to try to like squeeze coolant out somewhere nothing and then I'm finally

I'm looking at the front of the radiator and like in sporadic spots on the fins and then at the bottom

there's wet coolant in the fins like but not not where it would roll down from the top like kind

of in the middle and then at the bottom like all right this is uh not good like I guess the core

has holes in it somehow so dried it I'll go double check on it see if it leaked again we're gonna

throw a pressure tester on it but in the meantime I was pretty annoyed I took some pictures of it

and video of it uh and I looked up because I bought it the radiator it's an aluminum version

through vp auto parts and I actually bought it about a year ago to the day so I sent them an

email and I said hey this thing I got is leaking and here's video and pictures of it just like

is there any warranty on these like and then they responded back a few hours later like uh yeah

we're really sorry about that that's the first time we've seen that with those we're gonna send you

one all right cool so customer service in 2026 is rare and hard to find so we'll take it so I

just want to double I like I'm paranoid that it's not the radiator it's something else and it looks

like a jerk but uh we're gonna pressure test it before I take the radiator out and just see if

coolant comes out of there and if it is I'll I'll send it back to them or if it if it leaks from

somewhere else I'll just send the radiator back to them um without installing it but

it's weird it's a weird leak I've never seen a leak like that other than when like the core fails on

a radiator so on an old radiator it's not as weird but it's weird to see it on a brand new one

yeah it's only been run like two or three times so um yeah that's that's pretty much where I stand

with that once I hook up the fuel filter and now replace the radiator I'm gonna work on fixing the

wiring um car's getting there it's getting really close to being able to drive around so

which is good because spring is also getting here for you it's getting really close to a car

driving season I just saw a post from your local marplehead cruising show that it's coming back so

that's your your goal is still right I think they said May 12th is their first one so

yeah something like that yep sweet that's yeah so that's where I say I've actually done some work

to it I'm gonna do some more work to it excellent I'm very curious how the pressure test goes all

right um genuinely curious to see how that uh I'm hoping where it's leaking out of

at least is one of the way I ready so it's not a big deal right yeah I'm well I actually got it

today I'm hoping it's obvious it starts weeping out of the radiator um because that that's the only

place there's coolant or like I mean I used nice hose clamps I use nice hoses I don't know what it's

coming from other than the radiator where I can see so and also I want to see if it's wet because

I dried it as best I could the last year I left it and it's been a few days so and it's not like

I we left it's been cold but it had coolant in it I did not I did not put any water in this engine

it has right 50 50 premix coolant in it so it should not have frozen it didn't freeze and break yeah

yeah oh hey almost there one more step and also sounds like you might not have to pull a tank out

of the car so that's good too I don't think I'm going to no I think we're gonna put some fresh gas

all the tool will be fine came out looking clean with no sediment in it I wouldn't even stress too

much about it at all maybe serve us a sediment in it be a whole different story but and it's um

it's I mean maybe there's a little bit left in there but it was like you could hear it like

gurgling trying to suck out more fuel but there wasn't much coming out so yeah good yeah a little

bit of old fuel is not going to hurt me anything at the end of the day no once you mix it up with

mix in yeah five gallons of fresh stuff it'll be fine yeah yeah yeah absolutely well I've been

working on stuff here too um I think I talked about Roberto's Lancer last week with the deal with

the uh the the crank sensor yeah um that was all good for about two days and then it started

misfiring again which if you're wind I don't know if I talked about it on here or not it

developed a misfire I don't know a month or so ago and it was a p0204 I think is cylinder number

four misfire whatever the number four the four is the misfire and the number four is the cylinder

it's on so p0304 maybe whatever um and I went to change the spark plugs and spark plug number

one and number two wouldn't budge so I was like oof I don't want to deal with this right now

went to number four and it came out and at the time I didn't notice this but I think the wrong

plugs were in the car though so there's only like I don't know maybe three or four different

thread pitch for spark plugs they're all pretty they're fairly universal as far as whether they'll

fit or not as far as the thread itself goes but when I pulled out number four like a month ago

the electrode is missing off the end and I thought that was weird and I was just like whatever I'll

put the new one in the misfire went away and call it a day what I didn't notice when I took it out

probably because it didn't seem as different because the electrode is missing the plugs are way too

long compared to what's that belong there like double the length of threads which is not an

insignificant amount so I noticed that when I changed number three yesterday to help get rid of this

misfire code so my now my thought was well maybe because there was also an issue with

some pinging when we first got the car that maybe the reason the electrode was missing was maybe

there was some actual physical interference between the end of the spark plug and the piston on the car

it beat up the end of that electrode enough and thankfully it's softer metal than the piston

that just broke off eventually so anyway I changed number three and then I got to number two which

was fighting me but after a lot of left right right left left right right left and copious amounts of

deep creep in the cylinder head I managed to get the number two so cylinder spark plug out

looking at it the part that would be too long the part that sticks out into the combustion chamber

is a completely different color than the rest of the spark plug so my guess is because of the way

metal works and heat works and combustion chambers work that a lot of the reason the plugs won't come

out initially I thought they're gonna be cross threaded but it's probably something to do with

the fact that they're probably coated in carbon and it's binding up in the thread trying to get

them out that's one thought could be a heat issue and changed you know the amount of spark

plug sticking out the bottom and the heat on that was not able to dissipate in the cylinder head

and maybe it made the metal expand or who knows but he has a misfire in cylinder one now which is

the only plug I have not changed and I cannot get that one out so I turn it to the left it moves a

little bit and then it gets really tight and then stops I'm gonna turn to the right and it was a

little bit and then it's really tight and it stops and it's almost making like a like a chirping sound

which is never good when you're working with spark plugs and cylinder heads because you're talking about

a steel spark plug in an aluminum head and I'm trying to be like ever so careful that I don't

blow up the cylinder head take the threads right out of it so I keep stopping spraying more deep

creep in trying a little more stopping spraying some more deep create trying to be as patient as I

can but even with doing that process when I eventually took out the spark plug socket I couldn't

touch it the amount of heat generated from trying to release this spark plug from the cylinder head

is intense so it's scaring me because I don't want to down the car but also it has to be done because

all of the misfire codes are gone except for cylinder one which is the spark plug that I

cannot get out of the car so I stopped it where I where I had to yesterday and I was like you know

what I feel like I've gotten to a point where if I try much more of this right now we're gonna have

issues so I sprayed some more deep creep down the spark plug hole and said deal with the misfire for

a day take it to work tomorrow because I don't want to die tonight and be stuck until weekend

this was on wednesday night he made it to him from work today he's gonna try again tomorrow

and then maybe we'll tackle it again this weekend because I am incredibly nervous about it

and I'm very afraid I'm going to strip the threads right out of the cylinder head

travel the engine's hot oh this we've tried both ways cold and hot so done both things

that's why I had I had him after I changed the other plugs I had him drive around the block a few

times to get the thing up the temperature and it did not actually help that much so we'll see what

happens I just I think it's gonna be a a exercise in patience and not just trying to slam it out

because I think the more impatient I get and the harder I work at it the quicker I'm gonna ruin it

so I just need to try to get it out a little bit at a time slowly at a time

and uh make it work so we'll see what happens but one step at a time with this car it's very

frustrating the whole reason we purchased this particular car was because I was like oh it's a

2004 or 2005 Lancer like it's a very simple two-liter single overhead cam like I know these I

know Mitsubishi things inside and out everything shouldn't be a problem and every little thing I

spot us along the way so it's just that whole trying to buy a cheap car right sometimes you get

a good one sometimes you get one that's been treated like a cheap car for too long so I should

have run away when I saw the 305 third gen in the guys yard probably was a good indication that he's

not a good mechanic but anyway good so that's uh it's it's it's getting there I'm losing patience

but I keep stepping away from it so that I can rebuild my patience back up and try again so

we'll see what happens next wait wait wait wait can't we can't breeze by you mean like a small

block Chevy and a third gen eclipse no no no a third gen Camaro oh yeah no that would have

been a hero status in the small block Chevy and a third gen eclipse no it was like a like a formally

red like 85 z28 yeah yeah so the car of all the top mechanics that's where my brain goes you say

third gen is third gen eclipse yeah 100% 100% third gen camera I figured saying 305 third gen that was

frustrating me but we're getting somewhere so

hopefully we can get further and maybe we'll get it working get it right and then maybe we'll

move on to a different car we'll see what happens so anyways that's that's the story with that um

I haven't done much else project car wise I think I have the fuel tank for the starry on

I think I said I was trying to try to have it in before this episode but I don't it's all cleaned

inside and out I'm actually after your record tonight I'm going outside to paint that I bought

some paint earlier today I bought some primer they go right over some of the rust on the exterior

because it's been sitting outside in bare metal now so it's got some rust on it and I want to prime

over that and then I have some of the leftover paint from Naomi's engine bay for her Mustang

that nice chassis black from whatever brand that is now god names for incident off nope

POR POR in aerosol can yep yeah and then I have um aerosol rubberized undercoating

for the bottom of it where it hangs down from the car because that's what a head factory

so I'll just look factory in the car so that's the project tonight so at least get primer on it

maybe the black on the top section my ram 50 pickup truck

almost left me stranded this weekend uh oh I think that I ran out of luck with the fuel pump in that

so if you remember I put that red elebrac pump on and one died left me stranded

and I returned it and got a warranty of a new one and everybody said those pumps are garbage

and that one's going to die eventually too so I bought another generic non-edelbrock low

low psi fuel pump actually the same one that you use the transfer pump for your car I was told

those are pretty good so I bought one of those and it was in the truck so if I had broken down

at least I would have been able to change it on the side of the road and keep going I think

but I went to the Prescott rally this weekend might as well combine this with events so the

Prescott forest rally this year moved from October to March so it feels like I just went

but I did just go in October but they moved to March for this year so it was this past weekend

and I was camping with some friends on the top of Mingus mountain okay for anybody who's not been

here Mingus mountain is route 89a near Jerome the route we went through when we took pictures of

the cars that one time that really fun twisty mountain road yeah that's Mingus mountain road

basically okay so at the very peak of that there's a campground oh it's not ticked there's a paid

camping area that's not technically open yet or maybe it is now it's April but it was still March then

but there's dispersed camping that is open year round if you want to camp in the snow in the

middle of the winter in Mingus mountain but so we stayed up there and I went up Thursday night

which I recorded early last week because I was leaving on Thursday I went up Thursday night

we all met for dinner in cottonwood and then when I was driving from cottonwood back to camp

I was having trouble with the thing like sputtering yeah and I realized that I was foot to the floor

like I was you know third year pedal all the way on the ground couldn't go any further

I chalked it up to elevation because it's a calibrated car

there's a huge elevation change I live at about a thousand feet above sea level

the peak of Mingus mountain is 7,000 feet so that's a big elevation change for a corroborated

vehicle so I chalked it up to elevation I was like well maybe it's elevation

hopefully it had happened a couple of times in the way actually even before that it happened

a couple times in the highway in the way up and then a couple times then I was like oh maybe but

then I also was thinking about it I've driven the vehicle up to about 5,000 feet three or four

times already without issue I was like yeah maybe it's just a little extra who knows even though

where it happened the first time on Thursday was before was lower than I had been where I

drifted before so who knows I convinced myself I didn't need to change the fuel pump on that camp

and I would just drive the thing home and everything would be fine I'm going from 7,000 feet to 1,000

feet it's all downhill anyway right I just roll the whole way home sure can definitely can't

turns out so the part that I could roll I was fine once I got back to flatland anybody familiar

with Arizona geography on route 17 excuse me on the 17 south you get to a place called

sunset point it's kind of like a big overlook and a big rest area and it's pretty far down

elevation it's probably back around 2,500 feet or so there's not much more elevation lost between

there and home here in Phoenix it started sputtering again excuse me it started sputtering to the

point that I couldn't maintain 70 miles an hour and I looked to the floor and I was losing speed

and I was sputtering if I lifted my foot off the floor a little bit it would stop sputtering

then I would lose more speed and then eventually I was doing 65 and then I was doing 60 and then

I was doing 55 and then I was doing 50 and by the time I hit 45 on the right lane on a 75 mile

an hour road I was like 45 yeah 45 I should probably get off the highway and not be a back

marker plus I don't want to die oh I don't want to die I don't want the car to die either

on the actual interstate because I don't want to be crawling around under the car in the breakdown

landed my legs hanging out the side and just it's a dangerous situation at that point also

you'd made it to like the grid area of Phoenix right that was just at the very edge so if you

anybody who knows the Phoenix area I was in a city called Anthem

actually do you remember when you were here during the Prescott rally two years ago when

I was driving the Colt and it died in the way up I exited the same exit that I exited on the Colt

so I did Colt died in Anthem on the way to the rally the truck died in Anthem on the way home

of the rally so I got off on Anthem at the exit Anthem like I said anybody familiar with Phoenix

knows Anthem is where the outlets are there's malls there there's shopping there it used to be the

very outskirts but now it's kind of in a little bit into the city but anyway it's uh I'm able to

drive surface roads between Anthem and my house taking the highway from Anthem to my house it's

probably about 15 minutes taking surface roads from Anthem to my house it's probably about 30 to 35

minutes so it's not far but it's just kind of annoying to get there but I was able to drive home

I gingerly drove it on those surface roads never giving it full throttle because I don't want to

risk blowing it up if I just kept it at partial throttle the whole time I was able to drive the

car just fine it didn't seem like there were any problems at all when I was within maybe

two or three miles of the house I was like all right let's see what's happening here

and I downshift into third and I flat footed to the floor and once I got to about where I would

need to shift in third it started sputtering put it in fourth flat footed to the floor

it was sputtering put it in fifth sputtering so my guess is fuel pump it's just not maintaining

enough volume to feed the vehicle what it needs for full acceleration I'm assuming I don't know

that's my first guess I don't know what else it could be it's a very simple system it's just a

it's just a carburetor I guess technically it could be a bad up logged fuel filter

but I highly doubt it based on the fact that there's maybe 3,000 miles in that fuel filter

and that tank was spotless so it would need to have a serious ingestion of grossness

less again the fuel pump is coming apart and pieces are inside of it maybe but

I'm not 100% sure so I think because I know those fuel bumps are bad I'm just going to swap in the

other one anyway and see if it fixes the problem and if it does great if not I'll figure out the

next step but I don't know that that's going to be powered by that engine for another couple

years so there's a couple of options that we're looking at doing a swap in that car

that's down the road so we'll see what happens one of them is fairly straightforward one of them

is less straightforward but very cool so did you know I might as well say it did you know there's

a company that makes an adapter plate to run against a Mitsubishi bell housing of VW19 TDI

oh interesting yeah and there just so happens to be a VW19 TDI sitting in the backyard of my

friend's house so this is a potential conversation that we just started having so I'm not sure

if I make that work or not but that would make that vehicle very efficient and it would also make

it very capable of climbing up an over mega mountain so the prospect of swapping something

to a diesel what diesel is six dollars and fifty cents maybe not so much no but if it's

double the fuel economy maybe it's worth it maybe we'll see what happens we had a little

more research needs to be done but I joked about it at first and I was like that's got to be super

expensive I don't want to even look at that and then the adapter is like 143 euros and I was like oh

okay it's not a lot of money oh there's also an engine already available uh oh now we're thinking

so the options are starion turbo or VW19 turbo so both of which seem to be about the same amount

of work probably so anyway that's what I found that truck I'm gonna put the fuel in it I still

enjoy it as is for now I don't want to make a project out of it until other products are done

so that's that's the no big projects until other products are finished but there's some

there's some planning and some thoughts in the in the in the background so

uh what else I think that's it I haven't worked on anything else I spent we were

recorded on Tuesday I left on Thursday came back Sunday I hope it's been working this week so I

haven't really done too much because I spent all weekend up the rally rally as always great time

yeah how's the rally amazing really good time I don't know why the Prescott rally doesn't get the

same amount of entrance that other rallies in the ARA series do it's one of the lowest attended

rallies I don't know if it's location or what it's it seems to be plenty of miles I think there's

250 stage miles which is pretty good that's pretty good it's Friday Saturday they did a special stage

a spectator special stage downtown which is kind of cool that's the first time I've done that

the only issue with that was that they were running late through no fault of their own

in the city of

yep it's one of the cities in Prescott Valley I forget which one it is it's actually where

your father-in-law lives but I can think the name of the city

anyway yeah terrible names tonight you know horrible people there was a massive car crash

that was non-rally related but it shut down right in the middle of the transit stage

so it added like an hour and a half to the transit which added time obviously to the event

and it made so that the spectator special stage was run after dark and there were no lights

no so all the spectators could really see was the cars lights ripping around the the course

it was basically a really high speed rally cross so it was pretty cool but what would be

cooler if you could see the cars so yeah again no fault of their own that was just

a wild circumstance that happened that no no no control of the rally no fault of the rally

nothing to do with the rally just a really bad car crash in the middle of town unrelated to the

rally so thankfully unrelated to the rally but that was uh that was the cool thing but that

event was the spectator stage that was the new the new thing stage roads are great as always

it's basically like the surface of the prescott rally i mean you've been there you probably remember

it's a little bit dustier than like the new england forest rally but the roads remind me a lot of

the road conditions in in new england forest if you just took out all the trees it's kind of

what it feels like to me traveling on the roads some good amount of big hidden rocks but also if

you avoid the big hidden rocks it's fairly smooth as off-road driving goes um good good roads for

the rally the attrition rate was probably about normal for a rally i'd say i think they started

they started less than 30 cars um but they finished somewhere around 20 so everybody had a good time

and uh it was cool it was also cool to see um jamey bellovo who used to rally cross with back

in the day he was out here doing co-driving for one of the drivers out here so chatted with him

for a little bit haven't seen him in probably i don't know what 15 years so it was neat chatting

with somebody from new england it's a new england rally seen here in prescott at the prescott rally

so i recommend signing up to volunteer next year if you're in the area um they treat the

volunteers very well the rally staff is awesome they're all fairly young and fairly energetic

and fairly into it i think they have a good history ahead a good history a good future ahead of them

where they're going to keep continuing to do the event and hopefully it grows and grows and grows

and i think people need to realize that it's it's a good event and it's worth coming out here

if you're based anywhere within you know a day's drive you know the southern california

competitors a lot more people do the ridge rally a lot more people do what's the one in washington

olympus a lot more people do olympus so it's a good amount of west coast participants and i think

that they're doing themselves a disservice by not coming out to the prescott rally that's a good time

so well i think it's a regional versus a national

probably so a little bit different but you can do what is less entrance but it's a good event so

and it's not terribly expensive i don't think to run i think it's a $1,500 entry um and then the

you know hotels in the area aren't super expensive either they're all like $100 night so it's not a

super expensive prospect to come to this event and maybe it is right now it again $5 a gallon of

fuel but anyway um also very cool i met two people who rallied lancers in american rally

in the 70s and 80s which i've rarely ever met people who are into that stuff

so one is a a friend of mine's wife actually i did not know that she was into rally she used the drive

um an arrow in canadian rally in the early 80s and another one was this gentleman named

kurt griggs kurt with a c he ran a rally a rally colt all through the late 70s and early 80s

so also really cool and the one of the guys who i was working the stage with one of our like stage

crew was the former director of motorsports marketing from mazda and he is one of the

guys responsible for speck meata he's one of the guys responsible for mazda getting involved

with historic racing uh one of his first events was when mazda when japanese cars with a feature

mark at the midi in rhodeland which i was at that event in like 2007 he was one of the guys that

put that all together uh super cool talking to him um he's been a race car driver his whole life

one of my favorite racing series that's kind of under understudied unknown about back in the 70s

was the bfg radial tire challenge because it's one of the series that colts were really uh strong

performers in uh he actually raced in that series in a pinto yeah and if you remember when we were

at the day 2024 there was a purpley blue pinto in the display of old race cars and i was telling

him oh i saw a pinto from the bfg radial tire series at day 2024 i described the car to him

he knew the car knew the driver knew the whole thing super cool history to stand next to sky and uh

and and talk to him about motorsports and history of motorsports and he was at like he was at

walkins glenn in 1969 for the scca uh trans am series so he watched like donahue and um

uh yeah all my names are escaping me again right now because i'm terrible with names but yeah

you know the green challenger and uh san posi and the challenger and yep you know the

terra lingua mustang and he watched at the two liter cars so he saw morten in the datzen and

he saw all those guys racing those cars back in the day and again just just picking this

guy's brain hearing his stories was just very very very cool um if you had a chance to look him up

his name was jim jordan jim jordan so super cool guy way into american motorsports and like

a lot of stuff that we enjoy is because of this guy i'm gonna hang out with him on weekend so super

cool oh let's see what else that's really it from prescott yeah um it's right for project cars

maybe the truck did make it home obviously it's sitting in the driveway i have not looked at it

because i was annoyed i've been working on the lancer and i'm working on the starian tank so

trying to do one thing at a time here nice there's a deadline on the starian not everything else

so fingers crossed this is the week this weekend starian starts and fires with its

oh full fuel system in place okay i hope it does i want to see it yeah me too

all right well so you got injure uh let's do a topic we actually have a topic

i did i did minor i did minor low effort homework um but uh i've got automotive terms that make us

cringe in 2026 uh so what i will say about this is that we use the discord for crowdsourcing some

of these things so segue advertisement come join discord yeah all right i i kind of put them in a

in a rough top 10 list uh again low effort we're just stealing from the old letterman show

not quite it won't be as funny i don't think um definitely will not be because we don't get

paid enough money to make it that funny and uh the reason we don't get paid enough money is

we're not that funny yeah exactly uh now i just put them in order i don't know if you

agree with this order real quick before i all right it's fine all right let's go uh number 10

bone stock what other kind of stock is there what do you think it doesn't annoy me

um i've probably used it in fact i was looking at all of these things i've probably used all of

these terms at some point in my automotive fandom um probably the reason i have is just because

they're already out there and they don't they did not used to bother me probably nearly as much as

they do now and i think it's because we've been so oversaturated with automotive content our

whole lives that we've seen things enough that were annoyed by them right so do you know oh probably

an episode discussion in the discord is that where we had it yes okay all right i'm gonna try to give

somebody credit for what they said but they know who they are that's the treat the style the stylus

guy gave us bone bone stock yeah which i don't i don't just i don't 100 dislike bone stock um

it is a weird way to say it because yes there is no other way of saying something is stock

yeah it's just completely stock i don't know yeah and what what's bone even mean at that point

i don't know it's down to the bones like it's has been changed i don't know where it came from

it's just like a localism that just existed yeah like i've broken bones yeah so i even my

bones not stock they've been rearranged a little bit yeah um i've been an arm

all right number nine pocket rocket what do you think yeah i don't like that one

it feels like an old that's uh it was designed or designed it was probably first used for

obviously cars like um GTIs and crx's and i feel like car and driver in the early 80s

probably coined that one probably pocket yeah i couldn't tell you where it comes from i would

have a very big pocket if i had a GTI at it though so yeah exactly it's not i i yeah it's weird

this next one really gets me yeah what is it original miles number eight

yeah as opposed to what original miles as opposed to what so

they initially said okay as opposed to what but then somebody brought up after restoration

but i think if you're resetting to zero when you restore a car you're doing it wrong

because it's not a brand new car that chassis still has x amount of quote unquote original

miles on it yeah so you can never go back to zero so i think that original miles needs to go away

and it needs to be miles this car is 80 000 miles yeah period you can't erase that and if you do

erase it if you do change it and you restore the car and you say oh it has 10 miles then you have to

say that needs to be the qualifier where it has to be this car has 10 000 miles since restoration

yeah that's fine 80 000 miles 10 000 since restoration or something along those lines yeah

i don't like it all right original miles number seven cream puff i guess this is like i always

heard it describe like super nice car but is that because like cream puffs are delicate

or they're delicious i don't i don't know why we call it that yeah probably because

cream puffs are very delicate doesn't so it should be something like this is a fresh cream puff

because if you have a half eaten cream puff yeah you could have a very rusty car my staring on

is a half eaten cream puff the rusty one yeah it's half missing and it's still very delicate

so it still works yeah i don't know cream puff yeah i it's it's a it's a strange it's a strange

use car salesman that's where a lot of this probably came from salesman slaps roof you

could eat so many cream puffs in here yeah cream puff um i do like your note on here they are

yeah they are i just think i haven't had one a while yeah or cream puff cars they are delicious

yeah we're going to a beard poppers they're good cream puffs well unfortunately that

seems like something has wheat in it maybe i don't know how they're made actually if they

just take cream and you dump in the fryer like it's fried ice cream but i think you still put

something around it the fryer part of the problem for me yeah so stupid gluten issues

all right number six sleeper

i don't hate this one i don't really hate it either it's kind of if you're if you're building a car

to be very fast that doesn't look that looks unassuming i think sleeper is

a perfectly acceptable term yeah i think that it becomes

i think it's overused i think people are like oh this car is a sleeper and it's like it's got

deep dish wheels and slicks and side pipes i don't know what you're talking about yeah it's not a

sleeper i heard you coming from six blocks away your car is not a sleeper um this kind of goes

along with like wolf and sheep's clothing probably i don't hate the word sleeper

i think that it fits like don't sleep on it yeah it's unassuming you're gonna you're gonna sleep

on it it's gonna it's gonna beat you so i'm not i don't have a problem with sleeper i won't even

pretend to have a problem with that so it's not it's not that the car

is sleepy it's that people are sleeping on the car that's where the term comes from you sleep on

the car because you don't think it's gonna be fast yeah it's turned into people use it as the car

looks like a sleeper it looks sleepy but that's where it it came from so

interesting first but these are all personal preferences that were suggested to us we

may not agree with all of them so yeah but sleeper should be number 10 actually now that you

asked me about the order okay anti it all right all right number five shipbox uh i i don't know

that's definitely overused like everything cannot be a shipbox

every car is a shipbox that's all cars are terrible yeah cars are terrible what is the

who do you think cars are pain um yeah yeah cars all cars are terrible they're fine so you have

to work on them and they're terrible so i don't like the term because i am team buy a cheap car

and enjoy it don't buy a cheap car and treat it like a shipbox because i like dutch colts i like

old cars that sometimes wouldn't have been thought of as a collector car and a lot of people

have called my cars that as a derogatory term so i'm offended by that term as a derogatory term

because i don't personally think that like my blue colt as a shipbox but a lot of people would just

immediately call it that because oh it's just a colt it's not a cornet so

it's derogatory to me i don't like it it's a slur it's a s word yeah i just feel like it's

it's way way overused everybody's like i just i think all i think all of these terms are overused

and that's why they even wound up on this list yeah because i think if one or two people use

these terms it wouldn't be but ever since the the advent of forums when people need to use words

to describe things i think is all these words started becoming overused so shipbox no good no

all right number four handles like it's on rails i don't know large trains aren't really

known for their handling but i guess it sticks to the road grounded to the ground oh camera

camera talk ground to the ground i don't think okay handles like it's on rails

trains are not known for their handling sure but

trains in the rail but trains are going exactly where they need to go they're going exactly where

they're directed to yeah so that's where that term comes from it handles like it's on rails the car

goes exactly where you want the car to go all right i think i'd be more annoyed with handles like a

go kart okay that was because no car no car handles like a go kart no especially after you've been

go karting all day and you go get into your car and then you quickly realize that your car you

thought handled a go kart is on the steering into a tree yeah so were you in the car at when we left

main that one time no i was in my own car or something but i remember you were behind us

watching us crash off the side of the road almost yeah i won't mention names of who was driving

but um who was a friend of ours who owned a car that you eventually wound up owning

and we left the go kart track where the go karts are like i don't know a half a turn lock a lock

yeah and been driving go karts all day and he went to the first corner after leaving the go

kart track and he turned the steering wheel of his car like he was turning a go kart steering

wheel and the car just did not turn and uh we understeered pretty much almost all the way off

the road somehow thankfully uh at the last second it caught some traction and turned back in but uh

turns out cars do not handle like go karts nope

all right next one i really hate this one all right what is it number three secretary car

hairdresser car personal preference man

no car is a secretary car or a hairdresser car feels like especially when this is a term

that has been used by quote unquote car guys like muscle car guys i would have a driver

for sure under car blah blah blah about miatas and other small sports cars they're all hairdresser

cars but yeah if small lightweight fun cars or hairdresser cars i guess call me a hairdresser

because i thoroughly enjoy those cars and i don't think that there's i think it's unfair to call

cars a hairdresser car because the implied thing here is that it's a car for somebody who

doesn't care about the dynamics of the car and only cares about it being cute is my assumption here

but yeah no hairdresser car has to go it all goes along with my constant argument of

buy the car you want for you not for anybody else so if you buy a car and the first thing somebody

says is oh would you buy a hairdresser car you're gonna be mad at that person

nope i'm out also i don't have many cars that would be considered hairdresser cars by others so

all right number two rice rocket or rice burner i don't like these at all at the end

they just resist yeah yeah but this is definitely i actually haven't heard it a long long time

yeah i i feel like that's gone out of out of flavor yeah this well it was like you know

20 years ago when it was still kind of unusual to be into japanese stuff yeah um yeah it was much

more common to have your car called this um yeah that grumpy old Mustang or Camaro or

mobile driver or even a dude that was your age that would only drive v8s or something yeah someone

didn't i wasn't saying about age just the the person who had the muscle car the person with

the big truck like they didn't have any respect for the the Honda or the Mitsubishi or whatever

they call that a riser this this was probably peak when like the first fasten the furious when we

came out yeah so like 2000 2001 used to have what was the website riser of the day oh yeah where they

would post pictures of terribly modified cars and people would make one of them which granted i would

go along with because the time it is it's all about the time really modified cars

but in poor taste but um yeah it's definitely gone away as like because it more from you know

best fears was kind of a weird joke-ish sort of thing and then became serious and then

the whole fast and furious was never a joke to those who were into it it was always a joke to

people like us who were already into the import car scene prior to that because we were into stuff

that was not what you saw in the apc catalog or at the nope events or all that stuff that was big

at the time and all of that was what fast and the furious pulled from it pulled from the

the burgeoning scene but the mainstream version of that new thing not from those who had been in the

hobby for a long time before that so yeah it's definitely not a way i genuinely hate that it's

coming back really i haven't seen it that much that's that style of modified cars really a revival

of the 2000s stuff yes like early 2000s yep like like the year 2000 like 05 was like a very specific

look yep yeah like it's that very hot important night's nopey style it's uh it's the 25 year cycle

andrew we're we're back we're nostalgic i haven't noticed it must be a phoenix though it's more

like an internet thing i don't i haven't seen it as much in person yet but i've been seeing more and

more cars of that era coming back in youtube builds and instagram builds and stuff like that so

it's not for me it'll never be for me i don't respect it and i will so they're all they're all

rice burners to me andrew all right uh all right number one i've got runs like a top or a sewing

machine this one feels like a sewing machine i get yeah sewing machine i get because sewing

machines were the first consumer machines that were reliable right they were very smooth they

worked for hours and hours and hours and they never failed runs like a top i've never understood

because tops spin for about 30 seconds and they fall down catastrophically okay my cars all run

like tops every one of my cars runs like a top he'll get me out of the driveway and then not

questionably to my destination that's running like a top um but a sewing machine i get because

again the sewing machine was uh a very efficient machine um i don't use it because

that term is very outdated i think again like all these terms yeah they're probably just overused

and most people don't have a sewing machine anymore because you can get a new shirt on amazon

the next day for 699 so you don't fix your old ones i certainly make my own shirts from scratch

so i don't uh i don't think about the sewing machine one i do wish i was proficient with

sewing machine use because i'd love to do make car interiors yeah not so

yeah i don't i don't i don't hate sewing machine runs like a top i never understood

i was wrong it's the word perfect how they run perfect yeah how they run runs like a shipbox

oh i can balance the time on the engine i don't know yeah or i could stack stack

wine glasses on my hood yeah yeah i don't uh i don't hate that one either um runs like a top i

don't understand i would say my my most hated term is not even this list okay what's your

cringiest term okay i have three really cringy terms okay um one is spec oh okay i hate spec

it's a nice spec you ordered a nice spec you didn't eat spec is rad it just makes you sound like

it's very pretentious i just don't like it check the box um yeah checks all the box checks all

the boxes that's another one i don't like it checks all the boxes doesn't check all the boxes

nothing checks all the boxes there's always a box or two that you want to add

a nice spec i don't like a spec also is a factory built car there's no personality in that car

like oh you got this like your your Volkswagen is the perfect spec Andrew because it's

Great Falls Marine with the Marrakesh interior it's a great spec fully option now listen it is a

great spec but i would never say that because i don't like the word i would say it's optioned well

yeah it's exactly how i would have chosen that car it's very cool it's a nice spec just again it

sounds very very douchey um reimagined hate it oh okay hate it that's that's that's probably my

number one most hated term reimagined yeah that's a good one it's a resto mod it's a restored car

that you modified a little bit i don't hate resto mod because that describes exactly what you've

done you've restored it and you've modified it you have resto modded the car reimagined just

means that you're trying to sell it for too much money when you've done resto mod again

it's kind of how it sounds um and those are the kinds of cars that you buy a hundred thousand mile

example of and you resto mod it and now it's a oh it's got a hundred miles on it no it's got a

hundred thousand then a hundred miles on it original so i genuinely genuinely hate that one

i had a third one in my head just now and i went away so i'll give you a minute not for i think of

it but those are my my two most hated at the moment our spec and reimagined really hate them

not good oh um nope it's gone again forget it'll pop out of nowhere eventually if you have more

please send them to us in our comment on an instagram story or send them along we'll add

some viewer ones next week um listener not viewer or not viewers only we can view

there's no viewing nope spec bespoke i also hate bespoke all right yeah it's bespoke

honorable mention don't like don't like that one um all of these are words that i hear at every

car's coffee i go to and i just want to punch that person in the face so yeah it's just like

honorable mention it well was mentioned honorable mention as well was mentioned in

the discord p car and f car okay do you not like it also sounds too cheap we know you're

trying to say ferrari just say ferrari let's say f car oh you're talking about fierros again

no yeah heroes and paniacs paniac heroes p car you've got a fiesta

yes f god oh do you have the rs yeah i don't know we're just forward yeah you good forward

yeah paniac and forward yeah i don't like p car and f car those are uh those are dumb f car i hear

less than p car probably because i see less f cars than i do p cars um but after your f car

so f you for saying f car the car is probably fine what if it's a rat rod

how do you feel about rat rod uh i don't really mind it okay so it's used to describe the right

kind of car that's that's this is 100 the issue with rat rod type rat rod into craigslist or

facebook marketplace and that's how you get your funniest listings because people use it for the

worst stuff yeah um some shell of an absolute garbage what number was shipbox number five

some shell of an absolute shipbox in the backyard and somebody's like oh great rat rod project no

it's not a rat rod project it's a project you can do whatever you want with it too many people

build what they call rat rods and they spend too much time intentionally making it ratty

yeah i feel like the term was fine when it was based on the cars that were built like they

would have been built in the late 40s early 50s it's like it's like if you dress like a punk

but you went to like hot topic and bought all stuff brand new instead of like sure going to the

thrift shop and buying all your stuff and like making your own jean jacket with patches this

is way too many posers and rat rods yeah i think i think is the issue a true rat rod is a car that

was built from parts you had lying around with an emphasis on straight line performance not on looks

the looks came along with it because it looked cool because you weren't trying

yeah which i guess is the poser thing you gotta and that's

that's the conversation you and i have always had about

roadkill i always like the aesthetic of roadkill cars because they just drag these

things out of junkyards make them work make a run slap a set of wheels and tires on it

dial in the stance of the car and have this car it just looks

like it could roll back into the junkyard and that's to me is a rat rod but there's too many

people like who's that guy in vegas that does all the rat rods you see on tv welder up or he puts

he puts like hundred thousand dollar rat rod builds like that's not a rat rod that's that's

just a show car that you spent money on making look like a rat rod so yeah maybe the word rat

rod needs to go away but she's called things ratty yeah maybe we were ahead of the curve by

calling my old starry on the ratty flatty yeah or actually if you go way back to the early

Volkswagen vortex days um if you built a water cooled Volkswagen that way it was just called

rat style yeah and that was cool at first and then much like the hot rod thing it got overdone

and the poser started coming and they would take their perfectly brand new mark four

and they'd send the paint off the hood and let the hood rust and say it was rat styles but to me

that wasn't rat style that was poser rat style yeah in the year 2003 or 2002 Volkswagen hood should

not look like it's 50 years old yeah that to me was dumb but rat styles originated with the dudes in

the northeast maybe it was the broke status guys i don't remember there was one specific guy that

had rat styles first and it's been so god damn long i don't remember who it was but it was a mark

a black mark one that was literally a field find that they did a motor swap and put a ts cups on

and did the interior over but left the body and paint ratty um that was the first rat styles build

and i remember i'm going way back in my brain here now and i remember the stickers they all

had back in the day i said rat styles and i was like a line drawing of a side profile of a toilet

over it oh okay so that was that was the aesthetic back in the day i'm sure i'm sure jarred remembers

that he can tell me the names because he's better at remembering names than i am but i remember that

car specifically that car might even been featured in pvw back in the day yeah so anyway

she also had uh safari not everything needs to be a rally car i reimagined this 911 as a safari

car it's a great spec now yeah excuse me i reimagined this p car as a safari car

is now a great spec there's no longer bone stock

no thank you no thank you um anything else any other cringe words i could probably keep good

conversation going all night andrew but i'm going to stop it right here uh before i get even more

angry all right let's do a little some people build a car to your style that's what you say

Mr rat stuff uh yeah some people probably find it cringy uh little nascar talk i mean martinsville

was kind of a boring phrase very little um i heard an interesting interview about this with

actually rigid petty after the event happened yeah he was doing like a podcast and somebody

says sent a question in that said uh we should just get rid of martinsville and he brought up a

point which i kind of agree with that a some people enjoy that style of racing but b martinsville is

one of the only tracks that's been on the schedule since the beginning of nascar okay nascar is deeply

steeped in tradition and as much as we do like to see evolution and improvement of things

some tradition needs to stay and martinsville i think is one of those that just needs to stay

yeah um it wasn't a bad race it just wasn't a good race no it was hamlin's to lose and he lost it

and he did yeah but he won last week anyways that was martinsville it doesn't matter but he

lost to uh old beige curtains but yeah yeah it was definitely there was a weird gutsy pit call

from elliott's crew and it paid off and uh elliott won the race so and i'm still mad at

bubba this week because i don't know what he was doing i don't know either it was a weird move

yeah but yeah i i think i think we saw a little bit of 2019 bubba right there where

he let his anger get the better of him which he used to do a lot and he's gotten better at and i

think i think he was angry at hosibar um for squeezing them in the two corners previous

and i think he did intend to give him a good little bump to remind him that he's there and he's

pumped and he just ran him over and he took out like seven or eight cars including himself

yeah um i have not worn my bubba hat all week because i cannot go out in public wearing his

bubba hat this week because i'm very mad at mr wallace so hopefully he can figure that out

because that one particular move took him from third place in the standings to uh 12th yeah so

good jobs are you blade yourself but reddick also still top 10 yeah even though he's his history

at pransville not good no so but listen just keep the naysayers down we need to have a couple of

shabbies and forwards win so that we talk about you know obviously reddick's getting a unfair

advantage this year because of the lawsuit yeah according to the internet all false but not happening

anyway that's the nascar of the day i think that's an episode

that sounds like an episode to me all right cool uh yeah join us in the discord you can

give us some more episode ideas uh maybe i'll spend more than five minutes writing up an episode idea

in the future try it try it also yeah we also spent most of the episode talking about project

cars and rally cars so we didn't have much time left talk about it well that's thing uh the time

i'm not spending working on the episode hopefully i'm spending working on project cars that we talk

about but i would like to do some more topics because it is fun so um yeah come join us on

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and aim for the roses

Auto Fools Day

Ford Bronco

Toyota Camry

Mitsubishi Mirage

Toyota Corolla

Subaru WRX

Hyundai Sonata

Mitsubishi Lancer

Chevrolet Camaro

Ford Mustang

Mitsubishi Starion

Dodge Challenger

Honda CRX

Volkswagen Gtis

Mazda Miatas

Porsche 911

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