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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the P1 Podcast

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So I have a feeling, Tommy's in a reasonably good mood today.

A little bit, yeah, but still also just like...

That was such a weird race.

We kind of got the race that we thought it might be,

where it didn't deliver as much of carnage as qualifying,

but at the same time, it's created some incredible and spicy talking points,

particularly about the championship.

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Righty-o then, Tommy.

Shall we begin with your most memorable moment?

What it might be?

Yes, for a second week in a row,

it's about Max the Stappen winning the race

and this time having the same conversation of,

is championship back on?

And I've gone from, or absolutely not,

there's no chance to slightly believing.

Hence the clothes.

And look, there's obviously something in my being

that started to believe in some way

because I was so nervous watching that race,

thinking, oh my God, if Max wins this,

I was constantly thinking, oh my God,

if he wins this and watching where Landa is going to finish

and obviously Piastro is at the race,

which we'll talk about later.

We joked about that scenario, didn't we,

where it said like, oh, in the next race,

it would have to be for Stappen winning again

and then Oscar Piastro DNFing

and as if it's actually happened immediately.

And yeah, I look back, I'm still very much,

it's going to be a huge ask to do it,

but it's certainly, you know,

it's going to ramp the pressure up on McLaren now

that he's kind of lurking in the background a little bit.

Like they already said yesterday

that we do have to kind of take his championship seriously

and I was kind of like, he's not in it,

but he's bagged 25 points on Piastro in this one,

in one go.

So my God, yeah, it's making me nervous now.

I swear you change like the back who win, do you do?

Like during the race watch along,

nah, it doesn't matter, I'm still nervous,

but it's not even 1%.

And then you come off the stream and you're like,

well, actually, I feel like it's more like 2%,

maybe 10%.

2%? Yeah, 2% I think.

Yeah, so...

Singapore is going to be the biggest one, I think.

It's on, it's absolutely on.

It's absolutely on.

If you also consider, right,

so we've got seven races to go,

69 points, Max Verstappen is behind Oscar Piastro

in the championship,

which means he can win every single one of the races

from here on to the end of the season.

Piastro finishes third and Max is world champion.

So there are more realistic scenarios happening

each and every race weekend it seems.

And it's, the other point I wanted to make about this

was that not only are we talking about Max the Resurgence,

perhaps Red Bull have got a car that can win it,

tracks for the rest of the season,

but you've got Oscar and Lando

who are going for their first ever world championship.

Now, Max isn't close enough in the rearview mirror right now

to get like particularly shaky,

but what a mistake for Oscar Piastro to make on lap one.

We'll talk about that in a little bit,

but you know, McLaren barely scored.

Lando finished where he started the race.

It's, it's, it's fumble city for McLaren at the moment.

You know, with the pit stops,

with the whole nicey, nicey stuff,

which I don't agree with,

like it just feels like something could

and may go wrong.

Something potentially changed in Monza

after all that pressure,

all those questions that they were getting,

because we said like, oh, you know,

Monza's an outlier, Max is going to, you know,

he's won the race by a comfortable margin,

but I didn't believe that Red Bull had the fastest car.

I think the reason I'm still quite pessimistic

to a point about it is the fact that

it's not a scenario last year

where it feels like McLaren have fallen off a cliff.

You know, if you look at last year

and how that kind of,

it switched actually between them,

but Lando, when he was chasing Max Verstappen,

it felt like Max was hanging on to the championship lead

by, you know, dear life,

whereas this one feels like Max is just over-delivering

and he's chipping away at it,

whereas the situation here is that

McLaren are still incredibly quick,

you know, despite them saying that,

oh, you know, Red Bull look quick this weekend.

I don't for a second believe Red Bull

suddenly have the fastest car

and they're well clear of McLaren.

Now, if that was the case

and McLaren were starting to like fall off a bit in performance,

I would definitely be backing Max to do something incredible.

It would still take an absolute miracle,

I think for him to do it,

but he's there and it's two in a row now.

And as we say, like the more late,

the later it goes on into the season,

if he keeps doing this,

the pressure is going to just ramp up more and more

for the McLaren drivers of,

you know, you can't make mistakes in qualifying.

You can't do this, you can't do that.

Yeah, and as well, look, we're talking about

the whole McLaren fight

between Lando and Oscar for the world championship.

Break it down a little bit more.

Max has only 44 points behind Lando Norris

with seven races to go.

That seems more bite-sized.

You know, when you break down the numbers

between second and first, you're like, well,

you're going to be like in Charlotte class,

30 points behind Loc Russell and 60 points.

I was doing the math and, you know,

Charles was 161, I think it was

coming into this behind Oscar

and when Oscar crashed out,

you know, I start to believe no.

It's an interesting thing to talk about.

It's something that, you know, as a Formula One fan

that prioritizes just awesome racing

and a championship battle first,

just the thought of that scenario

of Max chipping away, like if he hadn't

have taken Russell to the cleaners at Spain,

he'd be 60 points behind potentially.

So yeah, there's so many scenarios

that that is the painful thing for me

is like looking back on these tiny little moments

of like the, yeah, like the head loss in Spain,

but you could even go further back

and say that, you know, it was very unfortunate

for that whole situation to happen

with him running out of ties

and then putting the hard ties on.

He was on for an easy P3 at that situation.

Antonelli taking him out at Austria.

Of course, you know, everyone will say,

well, McLaren have had that fair share of issues as well.

I think I'm separating those incidents to like

things that of course out of his control,

Antonelli eating him and then him seeing

Red and going Russell.

And that was in his control.

You're coming with me.

And we will know at the end of the season

whether this is something

that is genuinely going into it.

I think we'll know in Singapore to a point.

I think if Max is up and wins in Singapore

and even if the McLaren's finished seconds

and third, it will be like, oh my God, okay.

I'm like, Red Bull can like win

at all these kinds of circuits.

Whereas I know it's an insane thing

because we said it after Red Bull.

Sorry, after Monza when we said Red Bull, you know,

that yeah, they've won by 20 seconds.

But you know, back is a very different circuit

and they've won again.

I do genuinely think that Singapore will be

a much better outlier of like where we are with this

because it's a very different circuit

because if he manages to eke out the points,

this is something you said on the watch along.

You look at the circuits coming up.

Mexico, he's brilliant at.

Interlagos, he's brilliant at.

You know, these circuits that he has been good at in the past.

And Singapore has never won at?

No, I think it's the only one on the calendar

is not won, I believe.

So yeah, so yeah, it's, we'll see.

Singapore, I think is going to be very, very interesting indeed.

Yeah, exactly.

We'll know whether it's a three-horse race

or a two-horse race, I think.

After Singapore.

Question from P1Patreon member Tony Soprano.

How close would Max need to be in the standings

for McLaren to start considering favoring their lead driver?

Oh no, Papyrus is coming.

Oh no, not the talk about Papyrus again, please.

How close would he need to be?

I think honestly, McLaren seemed to be very much,

it's difficult, right?

We've had this whole shenanigans in Monza

which wasn't a case of favoring their lead driver.

Although some people might say it was

because you know, people think that Landau

has a McLaren bias there.

But it wasn't a case of,

Landau is the lead championship leader,

Oscar let him through,

because obviously Landau is behind Oscar.

When do I think McLaren would have to do that?

I think if Max was to pass Landau in the championship,

then it's Oscar, it's Oscars to win.

And I think that's probably,

I don't think McLaren have an argument until then

to say, okay, Oscar, we have to back you.

This is again another big scenario in my head

that may well not happen.

44 points, that's two wins.

True, and you do wonder,

people will say this is insane,

but I think, you know,

Landau at that point might even be like,

well, I'll do everything for the team

because he has been very,

the way he's kind of said that,

as he's kind of gone on.

I would actually weirdly wouldn't put it past Landau.

If he does say that,

he better be more than two race wins behind Oscar.

Yeah, yeah, but,

if he says it with one race win,

I'll fall off my chair.

Yeah, but I also can,

I can also see that happening

based on how this season's gone so far in Landau,

the character that he is,

that many times said that,

even last year he was kind of like,

well, I want to win the title in the right way

and all this kind of stuff.

So yeah, he,

I do think that,

yeah, if Max managed to surpass Landau,

which would again be a stretch,

but they say 44 points

isn't absolutely kind of insane,

then maybe it does get to a bit more

like they need to like really panic,

but also at the same time,

you know, this is McLaren,

we had this conversation about Hungary

and Monza last year

when Landau realistically was the only one

that could have caught Max.

And that time they did have a brilliant car,

the best car in the field

and Red Bull were falling off a cliff

and couldn't, you know,

really score many results.

And they still didn't go,

yeah, Landau all the way.

So I also wouldn't put it past McLaren,

just letting them,

them to it and I mean, imagine,

imagine the scenario where

we get a Kimmy Reichenan

versus Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton,

but the Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton

is because they've been too nice to each other

rather than hating each other.

I think as well, not as much as myself

and yourself, Tommy,

we've watched Formula One that way,

but maybe we need to add a bit of context to that

just for people that haven't seen...

So for the people that haven't watched it,

2007, basically the championship

had basically been won by Lewis Hamilton.

It seemed like you'd won it from Fernando Alonso.

There was a lot of kind of controversy

during that season

and basically Hamilton had a couple of failures

towards the end of the season

and Kimmy Reichenan nicked it off,

both of them, it felt like

it was very much going to be McLaren's win

and which McLaren drive would do it.

And Kimmy Reichenan snuck in

and got the W by a single point.

The last Ferrari Drivers World Champion.

Wow, yeah.

And you've had to explain how long ago it was.

Yeah, fun times.

Yeah, people will literally won't remember

the last time Ferrari were World Champions

in the Drivers category.

Okie dokie, next question.

Let's go to people on Patreon member Marjo.

What has Lauren Mechey's done

or were the tensions inside Red Bull

affecting racing that much?

I don't know if he's like,

you can say that it's Lauren Mechey's coming in

that suddenly they're now, you know,

really quick and max is challenging for the title

because of course they won races

at the start of the year as well.

Hold on, did you just say

max is challenging for the title?

Did that just come out of your mouth?

Oh no, I said it.

Sorry Mr. 1%.

Sorry Mr. 1%, max is challenging for the title.

Wow.

2%.

But this is the scenario now

where people are kind of saying this

and going, oh look, he's won two in a row.

They're really good, but they did win races

at the start of the season as well.

But it certainly can't be a bad thing

to have much better kind of team harmony.

You know, look at Yuki Sonoda

getting his best result as well

and finally getting some big points

on the board for the team and Red Bull

kind of even having conversations

and Mechey's having conversations of like,

we know we could get second in the championship

which was never thought would possibly be happen.

I still think it's a massive stretch of course.

But yeah, I think he's clearly done a great job

and deserves credit

and maybe it's what Red Bull need

going into these new regulations

and yeah, maybe it isn't a case of like

counting them out from it.

Yeah, I don't know if we can just say

that Laurent has gone in

and changed everything for completely overhauled

what's going on in Red Bull.

Obviously tensions don't help

and we don't exactly know what was going on

behind the scenes

and how all the staff members on the ground

were feeling with everything going on.

But what it can do now potentially

especially with a few wins now under the belt

is just bring a bit of stability to Red Bull.

Whether Laurent will be the one to stay

as the figurehead for, you know,

sufficient and a long amount of time.

We don't know that either yet

but he is the CEO

which is he's gone straight in at the top.

But no, he's clearly doing a very good job

and he's got the engineering background he knows

and that I think is really something

that we're going to see more and more of

as Formula One continues to go into the 2030s

and you know that the James Vows is the

the ones that really know

Formula One cars inside and out

and if they have that natural leadership skill as well

then they can take teams to the front I think.

So yeah, a phenomenal job from Laurent so far

and if he wins the championship

then he'll be Lord of the greatest team principle of all time.

So yeah, there you go.

Yeah.

Right, let's go to my most memorable moment

and it has to be the Oscar Piastri crash.

Again.

I can't really believe what I've witnessed

just from Oscar's entire weekend in Baku.

Practice, struggling, clipping walls.

Pretty lucky you'd have to say

to not have had at least a Lando crabbing incident in practice.

Then crashes in qualifying, jumps the start

and then crashes on lap one.

I was genuinely worried as to whether Oscar Piastri's car

had been hijacked by a fan

that was just wearing the same outfit and overalls.

Zach Brown was driving it or something or?

Yeah, crazy.

Yeah, I mean that won't have the McLaren bias allegations

if it was.

But at such an out of sorts Piastri we saw today,

utterly shocking.

The mistake to make as a championship leader

was, I was going to say unforgivable,

he may well be forgiven

because he lost less points crashing

and Lando finishing where he was

than if he was to finish second to Lando finishing first.

That is mad. Which is utterly mad.

Yeah, it is. It's absolutely madness.

But we'll get on to Lando later.

But in terms of Piastri, the most insane thing for me

is that Piastri, and rightly so so far this season

has kind of got this Iceman persona

and we've said that his kind of very chill nothing phases him

is going to really do him wonders

going into these final few races.

And to me it's insane that it's not only just one incident

if he'd had the crash in qualifying

and he started at the back or something had gone wrong

would have said oh you know that's a big moment in the championship

but for him to then jump the start is insane

and then crash immediately.

I don't remember a world championship leader.

You know we've seen in the past

like a world championship leader have moments

where I'm thinking Sebastian Vettel

where you know the infamous incident

at Hockenheim where he went off

and it's like oh this is huge for the championship

he's gone off and many other incidents

he's gone by but for three massive incidents

all to happen in the same weekend

I guess count himself lucky that one

the points that Lando picked up

and two that for his sake you'll be hoping

that all his bad bad kind of

it's not even fortune because it's his own error

has kind of all happened

in one concentrated weekend of pure floppiness

because he was in such an insane finishing streak

as well wasn't he?

I think he had like the third longest streak

of finishing races and then it ended like this

which is ah yeah I can't believe it

a question from P1Patreon member Moreno8

will Oscar's penalty be transferred to Singapore?

I seem to remember some shenanigans in Mexico

when Red Bull sent Perez out

after being in the garage for 10 laps

just to do a pit stop and take the penalty he received

so to clarify on this one

because it was a five second penalty

the stewards are not carrying over

and don't carry over penalties to the next race

people might be questioning

well but Hamilton had one

but that was for a double waved yellow flag infringement

and that was a 10 second penalty

that they would have given Lewis

had it been even the start of the race

so I don't know how you'd anyway

it would have been a 10 second penalty

which is something you do carry over

so that was my initial thought as well

so you're very fair to have thought this

of like oh will Oscar carry this over

because I had to check as well

and I thought maybe he would

but nope he will not carry any penalties over

and it's yeah it was never going to be more than five seconds anyway

but it's a good thing for him

that he doesn't have to carry over this

absolutely horrendous weekend to the next one

yeah imagine if he'd like taken a car out on his

lay on the brakes and taken a car out

got a 10 seconds carried on

you know that's the only way this weekend

could have got any worse for him

if he did then carry the penalty over into the next one

because yeah a complete shocker for Piastry

certainly was

next question people on Patreon remember Rebecca

people are constantly expressing concerns

about Lando's mental strength

should we really be concerned about Oscars

I think both will talk about Lando

and I think he deserves

you know Lando deserves some criticism

but like yesterday

we had it's weird how we're going to have the same conversation

of Oscar Piastry is the one that's crashed

Lando is the one that's not capitalised

and so yeah you've got to

we'll talk about Lando in a bit

but you also have to you know talk about Piastry

and there'll be a lot of question marks of like

what on earth has gone wrong this weekend

with a driver that seemed so confident

maybe this is unfair to mention

but you know we all this kind of chatter

around the last race in Monza

and should he have let Lando go

is this going to cost him in the championship

has that got in his head

I personally don't think so

I think he just had absolutely awful weekend

but this has shown the Oscar Piastry

whether it continues whether we see another

mistake we don't know

but it shows that he isn't going to be like

completely invincible and nothing will phase him

because yeah it's an absolutely shocking weekend

and it's all self-inflicted

it's not like he had a mechanical failure

or something like that

is that all three mistakes were completely his own doing

for sure I think that being concerned

about both of them the mental strength

I don't know I think for Oscar

it's one as you said Tommy

concentrated weekend of disaster

like this was an absolute disaster for Oscar

gets away with it in the championship to some degree

although Max Verstappen gained in 25 points

and he was never a good good thing to hear

I think for any driver

I am going to be this next weekend in Singapore

I mean which is a very difficult track

to maintain focus

and it's incredibly hot

one of if not the hardest

alongside with Qatar

you know physical challenge as well

Oscar has to bounce back in Singapore in my opinion

otherwise this could snowball into something

really quite bad

so for me I'm definitely more concerned about Oscar

just in terms of it being a bit of a question mark

as to how he will bounce back from this

because it will have knocked his confidence

quite drastically I would say

because it's not just one incident

it's the jump start

jumping the start

like that in itself

we rarely see that anymore do we?

yeah like that's not something

especially from Oscar

who's in ninth place

like it's not like he was on the front row

and really needed to win the race to gain in the championship

it's just have a clean start

and then try and use the car

that you've got underneath you to get a good result

especially because he had that moment

didn't he yesterday where

you know he had the big crash

it was like oh this is going to cost me loads

and then of course Landau

was only a couple of places higher on the grid

so if anything that kind of pressure was off then

that okay we're back to almost like square one

it's not really a hugely different for me

in my championship battle

so then to jump the start and crash madness

yeah so for me the answer is definitely Oscars

I'm very interested I say

in a couple of weeks time when we go to Singapore

and with Landau

we'll get into it in this next question

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Norris had two shots this weekend

after Piastri mistakes

but has he thrown it?

He's left a lot on the table

as Lando

I think for qualifying

I lent on the side of

you know, I don't think that being the first

out there was the best

time to be out there

but he in my opinion

just kept it very much within the

within the sort of proximity of the track

try to put in a good

benchmark of a lap time

and get in the top five

that did not work. He started seventh

today had a slow pit stop

4.1 seconds had that been 2.1

maybe even 2.6

I think he comes out

side by side with Lawson

does he keep that position

it's a question mark

because clearly there was a lap of tire warm-up

in this in this race

that put drivers on the back foot

so I'm not convinced

even with a good pit stop

he would have been ahead

like slam dunk

but then the thing for me

that was just so difficult to watch

was him getting to within about

three-tenths of Sonoda into turn one

and just not going for a move

I feel like it's something that we

consistently see with Lando

is that he will play

he will very much be a

very sort of cautious

he'll be very cautious with his overtakes

he has had the occasional

really good overtake

don't get me wrong

he's not completely

like it's not impossible

that he can't make those moves

but it was

a point where I sat there going

you can't be finishing seventh

in what we would say

is the best car on the grid

finishing in the same position

that you had

you started in

when your championship rival

has shown a massive

massive dent in his armor

it was just

I couldn't believe it

you Tommy you were saying

the watch long is going to finish

on the podium easy

I thought on the run

on the run up to the race

yeah

surely Lando is going to finish

on the podium

I think everybody

believed that

it was difficult to overtake

I'm not saying it was

impossible

and he was stuck in a DRS train

but for me

I don't know

he got close enough

to be able to throw one to the inside

at least once

every time he got close enough

he allowed Yuki to

just shape a little move to the inside

Lando gets forced to the outside

and then he doesn't get through

yeah

I can't

defend him

with with some of the things this weekend

is is sort of

himself has tried to

say in the media like

are you know

we just weren't quick this weekend

the red balls

quick

you know

you go back to

to qualifying

I know we've already spoken about it

yesterday

but

you know

he's

he's also kind of

trying to say that

it was all undone in qualifying

and I know he mentioned like

going out first

but

you know

I know he's gone out first

but equally

Carlos Sainz

in a Williams is

is up there

Liam Lawson

has put it

P3

in a

in a racing balls

so you know

it's

he had

his championship rival

out the way

he should have done a better result

there he made a mistake on his lap as well

so

definitely in that situation

then we come to the race

and

again

you know

he's

he's said in his post race interviews

we weren't quick this weekend

we would

you know

we just finished 7th

that's

that's kind of where we were

he had a bad start

for a start

you know

he's

yeah

he messed up his start

and again

we're kind of thinking

yeah he was

and we're thinking like

how

how you're losing a place at the start

you're on the clean side as well

you know

he should be making

making these moves

he was then completely asleep on the restart

which made

which

got like I got back

back past him

yeah

and you know

you look at these people ahead of him

you've got Antonelli's having

who had a

great race

but has had

a pretty stinker of a season

Liam Lawson

in a racing balls

and Carla Sainton of Williams

you should be part

you should be passing these people

and

yeah

then we get to

to the bit of the end

guess he's had a slow pit stop

which is unfortunate

and he's then

ended up behind

Yuki Snowder

but he had so many chances to make that move

and people

will say like

and he himself said

it's incredibly hard to overtake

but people did overtake during

during that race

there were people overtaking

and this is the world's championship

that you're trying to win here

and your

championship rival

is

not scoring any point

every single point matters

and you can say

and maybe it's unfair to go

or Max Verstappen would have

made that move

I think

George Russell would have made that move

Charlotte

Charlotte-Claire would have made that move

he's in a McLaren

and he's battling

you know

Yuki Snowder that's not had a quickly great season

a racing ball

he had to capitalise

it's

it's not unfair to criticise Lando

for that

that weekend

because he

absolutely should have

capitalised

and he can say all he likes that

the Red Bull was quick this weekend

even if it was

fine

you should be finishing second behind Max then

and he finished 7th

also I will

I will say as well

because I know some

some fans get

you know

a little bit

uh

up and

and a bit upset don't they at times

that

two things can coexist

where

Piastri did terrible

and Norris

yeah exactly

they've both messed up

yeah

but

they

it's exactly the same conversation as yesterday that

you

the narrative shouldn't be that

Lando Norris has completely bottled it because

because Oscar Piastri has

smashed it into the wall

and done much worse

and had the worse weekend ever

but the two things can coexist

and both McLaren drivers

Oscars had the worse race

but that doesn't mean

the Lando Norris

shouldn't have capitalised on it

because

this was the dream ticket for him

to see

Piastri in the wall

and on the first lap

and then

the cars in front of you

are

George Russell with a stomach ache

Kimmy Antonelli

Carlos Sainz and a Williams

Yuki Sonoda

and

Liam Lawson in the racing balls

like

how have you finished in the same position you started?

Yeah

it is

it is madness

question from

WinApp

does Norris

even want to win this championship?

didn't look like it

I mean I guess this one is

is unfair

because every drivers different

and you know you said afterwards

you know

I am trying

and I don't

doubt that

and not everyone is going to

send it down

I guess

we have to

think that

you know we've watched Max Verstappen for years

and other drivers

made all these insane moves and stuff

and maybe we have to like

readjust our

our brains of

of kind of like

not every driver is going to like absolutely go for it

and be

be

crazy and send it and stuff

and I don't think that means he doesn't

want it

he's just not

he's just not got that

in him it feels like

to

throw

caution to the wind and

go for an absolute dive bomb and think

this is everything I need to make make this move

and he's

just played the the percentages

what I would say is he's still

he's still in that

he still has gained

and he's still in the championship

so you know he'll look like

a genius for

you know if he does win the championship will forget all this

because

you'll say well

you know you didn't need to make a silly move dive bomb

potentially crush into Snowder and lose a bunch of points

but equally

if he loses the championship by two points

you'll look back on these moments and go

bro the

like

go late on the brakes and overtake this move so

yeah this is this is f1 and this is a championship fight isn't it

there's

it's such fine margins

back to the question

I do think Lando wants to win the championship very very very much

that's why he races

I think that

yeah what's frustrating for

you know both myself and you tell me

you know we've seen many a championship fought for

but probably not one like this that I can think of for a very long time

can't remember the last time we watched two drivers that neither had won the world championship

trying to

you know

I know you'll have to access your encyclopedia brain knowledge as to when that might have been

but

but it just feels like a different championship fight it almost feels like

they both are sort of making mistakes

and it's

either of you really want to win this one I think Oscar of course before this weekend you would say Oscar had the upper hand but

it's just it's tough to see yet you don't expect to see someone crowned a world champion

being sort of very tentative when it comes to making overtakes

you can't be safe and win this one I really don't think you can especially from Lando's position

yes he's gained

six points

on Oscar

but

that's not going to be enough there's no guarantees that land is going to be quicker than Oscar when we go to the next races and

yeah it just feels like a missed opportunity

but to

further my point

Oscar did worse

but we can both just

they both deserve I think criticism

to varying level

yeah don't worry we'll grade them in drive ratings and I'm sure you'll totally agree with what we've said and

oh yeah for sure yeah yeah I'm sure you'll be ready for Oscar Piastri's grade

next question from Blue Ranger 1993

does Carlos now have to keep the unicorn sticker on his helmet for the rest of the season

oh yeah you know that that's he'll probably have a unicorn helmet made

after this race

for sure you could see how much it meant to him it was such a wholesome video wasn't it of

of putting that unicorn on a

corner on in the first place

and

just what a drive in general you know Carlos

to put a second on the grid

yes there was a little bit of track conditions

there but he had to put the lap in and he did

and it was a

is a phenomenal one at that because it put him right in the mix started second

and then his pace was was brilliant you know George Russell I think deserves his own commendation

shortly

but for Carlos

I think he extracted absolutely everything he could out of that I think we all were kind of forgetting at times that he was in a

Williams when he was just chilling in second on his own he'd cleared off from Liam Lawson

he wasn't a you know massive amount behind Max in that first stint

so yeah I think that one yes you'll keep the unicorn sticker and two it was

you got you got everything out of that

he did like it's an absolutely brilliant drive and what a

what a reward for for Carlos for what's been a really difficult season he's had

you know he's not been

the driver that we know he can be but he's also had a terrible amount of bad luck as well

in certain moments and this it all came together you know in a brilliant qualifying

and then to

you know it's not like it's just been completely impossible to overtake

and it was very difficult to overtake but not completely impossible where

it's a Monaco situation or something and he's just got into turn one and he's fine he had to

dig deep he had to you know have great pace which he did and it's awesome to see Carlos

and I said this in the watch along what an insane thought it is when Carlos Sainz got

demoted to Williams and we said like how unfair it is that he doesn't deserve

to be dropped from Ferrari that he would would be the one to score a podium before Lewis Hamilton gets one in a Ferrari

what an insane thing to think about that is

absolutely ridiculous isn't it absolute madness amazing for Carlos and perhaps not so great for Lewis with the struggles

that he's had this year P1 Patriot member Edith is my middle name

why is no one giving credit to George drove a brilliant race after a troubling weekend with sickness

I mean I will give credit to George Russell I think he was absolutely brilliant

he's done another you know it's maybe it's the fact that we've seen

much less happen when the race Carlos Sainz brilliantly get on the podium

that maybe George goes a little bit under the radar

maybe he's a victim of his own success just because he's been doing so brilliantly this year that you almost expect it of

George Russell now and him to deliver a good performance and be a fantastic drive from him as well

again just you know one of one of the quietly one of the drivers of the season that I

think a lot of people would maybe go George Russell driver the season

but then when you actually look back at like what he's done this year and the results you go

oh yeah fair enough and he's been very consistently good and yeah another another great result from him

yeah exactly definitely very close to drive of the day I know Carlos got it of course that's very very deserving

but George now he was stuck in traffic didn't have the best of qualifying was out qualified by Kimmy

but he chose the right tyre at the start for sure and I so did Max there was a bit of a chatter afterwards

and Max was the one that really pushed to start on the hard tyres to Red Bull

George going for that same tyre allowed him to just go long and to I guess keep his tyres in a good condition

whilst he was stuck and then obviously got through on Kimmy but he then was able to put in some absolutely awesome lap times

very similar to Max Verstappen out in front to get the gap to be able to come out ahead of Carlos

despite having wearing hard tyres towards the end of that first stint so yeah brilliant drive from George

I can't believe he's been able to do that through the illness that he has been suffering and he has been suffering this weekend

and what a reward it has been to finish second and something that yeah I don't think if when we heard his team radio on Friday

where it was basically like it was a completely different person it's it's hard to believe he finished P2

Okay we now go to M Crickers did Lawson just defend his seat for next season

I think that was what we were seeing before our very eyes Lawson versus Sonoda

I think Sonoda had a pretty good weekend for his standards with with how he's been able to manage that Red Bull up until Baku

I think he finished what 33 seconds behind Max which is not great but he was fighting in the points

and you have to kind of be happy about that Lawson on the other hand a great qualifying

and for me Lawson's one in that fight not only just in in position but of course he's in the racing balls

which is supposed to be the inferior car of the Red Bull but who knows where that really lies

but Lawson did a great job Sonoda needs much more of this fighting for P6's P5's

to be able to even have a shout of defending A seats not even as Red Bull seat just A seat in Formula 1

in either of the Red Bull camps but Liam did a great job and I bet Yuki was sat there going

why is it Lawson up here in P5 why can't he just be in like 11th and I can just be the star of the show for once

Had Lawson and Sonoda collided and there'd been a safety car and it cost Max the win

I think neither of them would have been in the Red Bull next year

but joking aside yeah it is getting for Sonoda because he's had the best result

although probably not in terms of time behind Verstappen because we've had races where

he's been 30 seconds off Max and he's finished 17th or something or whatever

and in this one he's got good points but unfortunately for him

Liam Lawson's had a brilliant race in that RB and it's going to be a difficult decision for them to make

but unfortunately I think unless Sonoda goes on this amazing run hopefully it's a confidence boost for him

it might make it a bit closer between the two of them of who they pick

but I still believe that Lawson will get the nod there

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At Joe Formula 6P, why didn't we get a lot of crashes after what happened in qualifying yesterday?

Because people leave more on the table in the race

and I see Oscar Piesto on lap 1 apparently

Too soon, too soon

Too soon but it's true

Yeah, the drivers

Lap 1 is where you can make moves

We saw a little collision didn't we between

I want to say Holkenberg and Ocon as well

in that moment

That is the moment that we know is going to be the chance

where you can make up a couple of positions

and have a fantastic start

and move up the order

But when you settle into that rhythm of DRS trains

and you're sticking to the times that you need from your tyres and stuff

you're not pushing like crazy like you are in a qualifying situation

where you're trying to get the best of every single lap time

So that's why we've not seen drivers going into the wall

and 100 red flags like we did yesterday

Exactly, they're very much in tyre management

They want to make their hards go 40 odd laps

You're mediums, almost 40 odd laps

They're stuck in a train

They're going a handful of seconds slower than they are in qualifying

So they leave some margin for error for sure

That's probably about it

Although we talk about this as if we didn't get one singular crash

We had Albon on Colopinto

We had Holkenberg and Ocon

We had Hamilton very nearly go into the wall

before the castle section

and plenty of drivers skimming the walls

Thankfully, good, I'm glad

because every time I rode on board

with a driver going into the pits

I winced

That pit entry is insane

I know we've been racing at this track for so long

But I'm still sad they're going

One day that's going to go wrong

One day someone's going to clip a wheel on the inside wall

going to have a tiny bit of a Carlos slide

not Carlos signs, Carlos

or a slide or something like that

I was thinking Carlos slide

I was like what's Carlos done

Why is it, why are you singling out Carlos, you hater?

The Carlos slide

I do think as well

I know we've had it many times

but this brilliant new onboard that's slightly further back

and gives that kind of field of view

where the cars look so much quicker

and I think that is one of the best things

we've seen introduced Formula 1

in terms of TV direction

that onboard looks so much quicker

that when we watch that footage of George Russell

all my word

that is

that is spectacular

say what you like, that is spectacular

it's crazy, it's insane

you do worry that how is that

how is that even legal

that pit entry

because they cut it as well

don't they as well

those lines are absolutely non-existent

you do one day

they bring the pit entry speed limit

sooner and then they'd have to break a little bit earlier

but nope, they just take it like a fast chicane

I'm going to show my age now

but back when I was watching Formula 1

as a kid in the 70s

you did have more

pit entries where

you had to slow down

whereas now on most circuits

even one like that where you think

you'd have it

like a chicane or something

most of the entries are

you just fly into the pits, hit the brakes

but back on a lot of

more old school circuits

you used to have that kind of situation

where you'd go

I remember in particular like

Suzuka where it would be before that final chicane

you'd slow right down

and you'd go round a bit

and they were almost like a circuit in themselves

the pit lanes

with entries

but I'm surprised they don't do something

to try and make it slower

or dangerous to put in almost like a corner

when they're flying into it

it's difficult isn't it?

I think essentially F1 drivers will make up

as much time as they possibly can

even if it is how they come into the pits

Right, let's head to biggest winner

driver or team

and I mean Carlos is very much up there

Max Verstappen

is also a big winner

if he ends up winning the championship

You can notice half won it

but you know

half win for Yuki for his best result of the season

Antonelli needed that as well

Antonelli needed that

I am going to say Max Verstappen

because he's winning the world championship after that

Carlos, yeah definitely Carlos

to get a podium after the year

he's had

insane and a brilliant result

very pleased for him

Biggest loser

so you would think like it would just be straight off the bat

Oscar Piastri but he lost six points

he lost six points in the drivers championship

which is utterly insane

and then you can't even say McLaren because

like

I don't know can you say McLaren?

I think McLaren can, I mean what

they scored six points as a two car

best car team

on the grid

it's definitely up there

I think Charles Lecler

is a shout as well

the Baku monster

has had an absolute stinker

Alpine

were literally two dustpins at the back of the field

the only two to have been lapped

of course Colopinto got

taken out, yeah

I'm going to say Oscar

it has to be, I think just in terms of

what this can do

from here on in, how does he bounce back

that is a massive question mark

and it's something that's going to be asked constantly

and of all the tracks

to go to where you're like

being constantly hammered about

you're going to make a mistake

it's another street track in Singapore

yeah exactly, it's got to be Oscar

isn't it, I know Lando's

failed to capitalise but

it's not

I know we can say oh it's only the equivalent

of them finishing first and second but for Oscar

it's not him finishing second it's him

putting it in the wall twice and jumping the start

and there will be many question marks

of how he bounces back

and you know

whether it is just a

blip and he kind of

is straight back into being kind of

Oscar pastry

chill mode we'll find out

we will, right let's now head

to the predictions championship

where

we currently have it written down it's 42-41

is that correct Tommy before I announce that

and it's to you, it's to me

perfect okay you didn't write that bit down

so I could have easily tried to skew the

skew the championship but

42-41 to Tom Bellingham

and this might well be

the strangest

predictions to react to

for a few reasons

so let's get into it with a good surprise

I went for Kimi Antonelli

which absolutely P4

was very much on the pace

yes George had a miraculous drive

to finish second but I think Kimi can also

be very happy with how he performed

this weekend. Yeah I'd love to raise

him be like it didn't be his teammate blah blah blah

but no Kimi needed

he really needed a performance like

that I think the P4

hopefully for his sake we talk about

kind of pressure and how you bounce back

from things

hopefully that just kind of calms the nerves

and of course this is the race

after Toto Wolf kind of

called him out for being a bit underwhelming and stuff

and everyone said is this where he spirals

now that he's not

daddy Toto is not being kind to him anymore

and he's done a

great job so I'm pleased you got that

point

Ollie Bearman no

disappointing

P12 I think

just what might have been

I think without that crash. He was looking good in practice

but sadly not

a big flop

I went for Charles Leclerc

and wow wow

wow did that come in

more so than I thought

didn't even get pole crushed

and the fact that I couldn't

yeah I couldn't even get the

oh well actually beat Lewis Hamilton

what I was saying

did you see as well actually before we go into

what you were about to say was that

Hamilton was told to give Charles Leclerc the position back

on the last lap

team radio

they were like right Charles 1.5 behind whatever

Lewis starts slowing down so he knows the order

doesn't slow down quick enough takes the position

did he

did he actually I did not see that

oh my god that's amazing

yeah I don't know if he just misjudged where the line was

or he just didn't slow down in time

or no anyway

yeah I mean for 8th and 9th

I don't think Hamilton really cares

but yeah it was and some people have said

ah but the team radio

they were basically

as he came over the line no it wasn't he was clearly

visibly slowing down

with about 50 meters to go 100 meters to go whatever it might have been

but yeah didn't didn't press the brakes

hard enough and he kept the position anyway

that's amazing

oh he clearly wanted

your point

really meant everything

to him

I say

I wanted to argue your point how I'm getting the same number

of points as you for my prediction

because

I can't get 100 points but if you could

it would be 100 points

I went for Oscar Piastri

and I said I've just got a funny

feeling that something's going to happen this weekend

and boy did he take that literally

and when

you know what Tommy I've got the bad

vibes as well I'm going straight in the wall

twice

look at that big flop

I can't believe that

that must be and I'm

kind of reveling in it now because we're

later on going to witness the worst prediction I've ever done

that might be the best prediction I've ever done

yeah you have the best

and worst in the same podcast

this is a shame that you're not

finishing on the best in fact we're going to finish

on the worst so I look forward to

reflecting on that but it's the fact that you were

like I just have a feeling yeah

it's not like you just thought Oscar might finish

6th not gonna have a great race whatever

you had a feeling something was going to go

wrong and it could not have gone more

wrong for Oscar Piastri

utterly amazing stuff from you

well done for the point even I will accept

that that is a point for you well done

pole position I went for Oscar Piastri well that was great wasn't it

yeah not even not even close

I'm for Maxis Tappan

well done hope you're happy with the money so that's what I'm not so happy with

you know screw you and I'm kidding

in third place I went for Maxis Tappan

that did not happen I went for

Charlotte Clair P3

no second I went for

Charlotte Clair and that was a new

and I went for Landon Orris

P2 no

no not even close no McLaren on the podium

crazy yeah and

and there was us discussing that we'd gone for

one McLaren on the podium

we were like it's so boring

if we just go for McLaren

one two all the time and then so true

they're not even on the podium and then in first

I went for Oscar Piastri first hit the wall

maybe and you

went for Maxis Tappan

unbelievable scenes yeah yeah that's good

from you well done Tommy I went

for for one crazy prediction

Lance Stroll out qualifies Alonzo

that was a few seconds

away from glory seconds away that was

literally about five seconds if that until

the red flag was flown at the end of Q1

why oh why

and I went for we're having a drum roll for

this

no red flags for a crash

all weekend

so that's minus five points because

you got it wrong and then there were five more after

that in qualifying actually

in Azerbaijan a weekend

is Sunday and Monday so

technique it's not it's not

yeah

what

so yeah terrible terrible prediction awful

the worst prediction you've ever made

the worst prediction and the best prediction

the same podcast record

breaking prediction

yeah that's what you went for in the opposite way

that is crazy

okay let's go to our Patreon prediction

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safety car at least two times

my goodness how do we not get two

safety cars after what happened in qualifying

just one and just an Oscar Piastri one

and I went for Pickle Nick

papaya rules play a part

in the weekend and no

yeah no even though we joked about like

them hitting the ball and then

yes no papaya rules

because there was no rules to place

two points and I got

one two three

okay so still very close

you are two points clear now

great adding from you

I'm literally watching you update this in the show

because you were one point ahead and you scored one more

point so therefore you are two points ahead

don't you dare

it's because I fumbled your score

yeah you are fumbling the bag I love how you

tried to make it three points

when you scored one more one plus one

Tommy one plus one

yeah I just thought I'd done better

that's fine

you were very smug on the watch

I've cooked even though I've had the worst

prediction in the world

especially because when

when we were kind of looking

at the race as well

I was kind of thinking oh Norris P2

that looks like it could be on as well

but alas no

alas no let's go to

the family top three where it's 8-7 to the Boring Bellingham

and a lot of points scored

this week in third place

my girlfriend Ellie went for Charles Leclerre

which was of course not correct

my mum went for Lewis Hamilton

no in second

place Ellie went for

Verstappen not Piastri that was

the first spoiler alert

my mum went for Landon Norris

and in first place

she went for Piastri

and my mum went for Piastri as well

lots of so a whopping

zero points from the family

completely washed you will be

redrafted

I literally might as well have got Grace involved

and actually I should have got Grace involved

because you probably would have said Max is up and to win as well

or a science podium

okay maybe Grace is

brought in for Singapore

I've got a story to tell actually

I said it on the watch alone but for anyone that's not heard

so if you remember

right at the start of the season you've been following P1

and our journeys for quite a long time

my daughter Grace

she wore it as a baby Max is up and would win

to the point where

it went on in this crazy winning streak

and we got it signed by Max

and Stephanie put two Grace on it

which is amazing

I was so like

championship back on after that race

I ordered Grace of Max Verstappen t-shirt

does that count as a onesie though

or does she the Max Verstappen trousers as well

yeah maybe okay if they exist

just be head to toe in just Max merge

okay wow

well let's see if that starts to work

and then you can get that one signed when Max wins the world championship

okay there we go

thank you everybody we're going to continue over now

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Tommy what are your final thoughts please

final thoughts

why do we have to wait

for another couple of weeks until

F1 because

I'm just so hyped for the rest of the season now

yeah you're so excited to see it

I need to know what's happening

I need to know

if it's championship on or

if it's all over

because we will know this time in two weeks

I will be

head to toe in Max Verstappen merge again

one lap of free practice won

dream's dead

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