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A lot of stuff to get to today.
I went to Puerto Rican festival.
Barrett Jackson is in town this week.
I did not go.
I'll tell you why.
Texas barely won a game.
I'm not going to get into sports.
That's for Q and I asked you guys on social media, specifically on Facebook.
And I think Instagram, but I forgot to check to see if any of them respond on Instagram.
Probably not.
I should probably check that.
But I'm going to get to your questions.
And it's also, you know, the funny thing is when I ask people to ask me questions
and I get some really good questions, but it's always a it's always a clear indicator
of who listens to the show on a regular basis and who doesn't.
Because a lot of times I get questions and it's about certain things that I've talked
about on the show and not only do I talk about on the show, but I've definitely talked
about it more than once, but there's still good questions.
And, you know, you may be a new listener to the show and you didn't get to those
episodes or you may be a random listener to the show or maybe you're just part of
hard parking violations because it's a fun page.
Shout out to my page, Hard Parking Violations on Facebook.
It's a fun group and you just don't listen to the show, which are also the same
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You know, I don't listen.
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Like I said in the opening, Barrett Jackson week was here.
I did not go.
I, um, I went last fall.
So starting last year, they decided to do a show in the fall as well as the big
one in the winter, which is always in January.
And the January one is the one that is the, the big one that you typically see on TV.
I think the fall one may have been on TV too.
I know this is only their second year.
Last year I worked the Future Collector car show.
Speaking of Future Collector car show, I've talked about it before on the podcast.
You know, that's where through my friend Rebecca and even Mimi the first year, I
was given an opportunity to go up there and basically be the MC or co MC on
stage for about eight hours, I think is the length of the show.
And it's Future Collector car show was a, was a good thing that happened for a
long time.
I was only able to attend a few of them before I was the MC about a year ago,
Barrett, two years ago, year and a half ago, Barrett Jackson, I think they bought
it and Rebecca was working as maybe a consultant.
I don't know the details of that.
I never really asked, but the January show, it was there twice.
And it was the fall show once.
I think that's correct.
And so I was a part of that and it was great, but a year ago we had the show.
They did not have one in this past January.
And I believe if Rebecca's post on Facebook is a hundred percent accurate,
there is no more Future Collector car show.
And that's really unfortunate.
That was one of the up and coming car events, car shows in the area.
Cause you have Barrett Jackson, you have the Arizona concourse and then you have
the Fountain Hills event, which isn't really a car show.
I mean, there's winners there, but I would argue that all of those winners
are predetermined.
There's hundreds of cars and they're only looking like at like maybe 10 of them,
but that's more of a charity thing.
So it doesn't really matter.
But the thing that the Future Collector car show brought to the area was an
opportunity for a lot of the modern to maybe 2000s, late 90s cars.
Cause when you think about classic cars, you think about this old like 57 Chevy.
And you think about maybe the 70s cars and now maybe 80s cars, but you don't
really think about 90s and 2000s cars as classic, but here we are in 2025 and
we're staring down the barrel of over 20 years old.
Some of them are 30, some of them are 40 years old at this point.
And so it kind of gave people an opportunity to showcase vehicles that
are future classics or future collector cars.
So you could show up with like a, a special edition Pontiac Grand Am or
Grand Prix GTP, I think maybe something like that.
Hopefully you know what I'm saying.
Or you could actually bring a really nice Ford probe GT, I don't know,
some sort of a super spec that never existed before, like a shell before
probe GT, I don't think that even exists in real life.
But it was an excellent show.
And then when it became part of Barrett Jackson, it was even better because
now you're partnered up with a big brand, but that's always a little dangerous
too, because no one really knew what the future of that show was going to be.
And it looks like it is just completely done.
And it's too bad.
You know, I, I won.
And that's how I met Fielding Shredder, who's been on the show a couple of times
and he's on Netflix's hyperdrive, the drift show, the drift elimination show,
Grassroots, great guy.
I love Fielding Shredder.
He, he judged my car and at the, at the time it was in fifth place and he
went and he grabbed all the other judges, he brought them back to my car and he
showed them everything that I had talked to him about.
I ended up getting second place in best modified, which was awesome.
And it's because of Fielding Shredder.
And I have that trophy over there.
I have an autographed picture from Fielding Shredder over there.
And, you know, there's no other show I would have entered in Arizona that I would
have won that award for that build.
And that's, that was my old, a Robotech build.
But so rest in peace to a future car show.
But again, I didn't go to Barrett Jackson.
I just, it's a smaller show and I, I, I like to support local things.
But, you know, I've, I've heard through the grapevine when they kind of
partner up with shows, it's to basically destroy the shows because it's competition.
The reality is it wasn't competition at all.
And, and I think that Barrett Jackson, uh, missed out on a huge opportunity because
they could have taken what that was, the Future Clutch Car Show, and they could have
showcased the winners of each year up at the auction for an entire week because
of, I have friends that come into town for Barrett Jackson and they're like, Hey,
Jay, when are you going to go up on stage?
Hey, Jay, when are the, when's the Future Clutch Car Show?
Oh, you missed it.
It was one day.
Even though the auction was a full week, it was one day.
And if you didn't show up there on that day, then you just lost out.
So they should have at least kept, and my car wouldn't have been in, but no, my car
would not have even been eligible anyway, because I never won first place.
But there were some damn fine cars that was winning.
And there were things from, you know, Renault's to S 2000s, you know, cars that, that
otherwise, I mean, Miata's, they were just so beautifully done and perfectly done.
And there was just no place for them in any other Arizona based car show like that.
Um, I guess I'm talking about FCCS again, I didn't mean to.
But anyway, I didn't go to Barrett Jackson.
I do plan on going in January.
Hopefully my cousin comes up here.
I've invited Dwayne to come up here.
And, uh, I think last time I applied to be a bidder, never plan on buying anything,
but I just kind of wanted that experience because $600 become a bidder.
You get a bidder's pass, you get a guest pass, you get 10 drinks a day on those passes.
So that's 20 drinks combined and you can go every day.
It's not just for Friday or Thursday morning.
You can go every day.
And so you kind of get your money's worth when you're comparing that to how much
you would normally pay if you were to party every day.
Like who does that anyway?
But if you were to party every day, all day at some convention and you were
paying out of pocket, you would blow past $600 worth of booze.
I could promise you that in the course of a week.
Um, but I, I'm definitely going to go into anyway.
I just went to a clean enough event.
You guys know we had Charles Warden on here a couple of years ago.
He has the group clean enough.
He hasn't done anything in a long time.
He's been getting his life straight, taking care of some things.
But this was a big event.
This was held at, uh, Houston's hot chicken, Dave's hot chicken.
One of those hot chicken places in Tempe, but Strad Pizza kind of promoted it.
And so they brought the Strad, um, the Strad Jeep out.
James Stradman was there and a few other big notable people around the area.
So you just had a parking lot packed with let's see, James drove his
conus egg, you had all these Lamborghinis and a few Ferraris and all
these other, you know, really nice, unique Porsches, not a lot of JDM.
I was there of course with my NSX and my friend was there with his super
nice MK four Supra.
And other than that, most of the cars were just kind of, they were modified high
in exotics or they were just kind of bone stock, buy them and drive them to the
local car show, but it was good.
It was great to see Charles and I plan on having them back in studio because
it's been a while since he's been in here.
Great guy.
And I'm excited to see what he's got, uh, what he's been kind of doing.
Some events coming up.
I'm going to get to your questions in a second, but, uh, we, we've
postponed our annual United Food Bank, one less event.
We, uh, one of our main organizers has some health issues and it got to be
kind of late to plan.
I mean, potential sponsors have money.
They have to free up.
I don't know if that's a great reason, but the big thing that made that show
work the last two years was getting approval to do it at the courtyards
parking lot and we didn't push forward to get that done this year yet.
And so even if we were to, I mean, there's still plenty of time to plan
the show and have the show, but we may not have a giant parking lot to host the
show.
And of course that is the number one thing.
So, uh, looking forward to announcing whenever that's going to be in 2026, I
believe it's going to be at some point in their first quarter.
It's going to have to be or else people are going to melt because come April,
things get really hot outside.
This next weekend, we do have an event.
I've partnered up with ELG accident attorneys, Sergio Escamilla, who's also
been on the show.
It's been a couple of years since he's been on.
I need to have him back in the studio.
I need to go to his place, but, um, he was the, the, the title sponsor of
one less the last couple of years.
And I called him and said, Hey, we're not doing one less, but I would love
to do something with you guys.
And so we have one auto on board with ELG, a local motorcycle group, a lot of
rockets is what we like to call them, right?
Crush Rockets.
So they're going to show up.
There's going to be a ton of them, the Ducati club.
Uh, but I'd, uh, asked if, if we can kind of join that with cars and also
bring in St. Mary's food bank.
So that's going to happen October 25th.
It's one of those deals where I have to decide.
You're, do we want to go to Schmidt farms with the kids, the grandkids to do
all the Halloween stuff, but I also wanted to do some sort of a charity thing.
And so I can't do both.
So I'm going to do the charity thing with one auto Schmidt farms is cool, but
really at the end of the day, it's we're building memories for us, not for the kids.
Because most of them are too young anyway, and they just drag it around a
bounce house, a bounce house.
And if the place didn't serve beer and wine, it would be very not interesting.
Put it that way.
We usually go out there for Christmas as well.
And it's freezing, believe it or not, because it gets down to 40, um, mid to
low 40s, even in Arizona, it feels really cold when it was just 75 during the day.
Oh, by the way, the event is going to be held at strad pizza.
Like the actual strad pizza is my first time going there.
I talked to one of the co-owners, Mr.
Freddie, when great guy, you know, he's kind of a, we've talked, I met him years ago.
And I've talked about having him on the show.
We just never made it happen.
And we had a mutual friend introduce us at a party.
It kind of a, it was an F1 watch party.
Wasn't a lot of people there.
That's where I met Jordan.
Um, I met Jordan before that, not Michael Jordan, Jordan, you know, um,
low ball or GTR Jordan.
And I'd met him prior to that, but that's the first time we really, like,
really talked and even that was years ago.
But my friend, my mutual friend said, Hey, Freddie, this is J.A.J.
Freddie, you guys need to talk.
So I was like, cool, right?
But then never, nothing ever came over that night.
And I've always wondered.
Maybe my plan for this podcast just wasn't good enough.
It wasn't worth their time or his time to look into it more because he's a big deal.
You know, he owns a few brands.
He does marketing.
Um, you know, he's, he's the partner with James Stradman for Strad Pizza.
He makes stuff happen.
There's a lot of stuff and we just never got that hooked up.
We never got together for a podcast, but every time I see him, it's great.
You know, he's, you feel like he's your brother from another mother.
And, uh, you know, running him to him this weekend was great.
We're going to make it happen.
I'm going to get up there and record probably at the hub.
It's what they call it.
I think they have like a studio space up there next to Strad Pizza.
But, uh, yeah, I'm really looking forward to that.
Let's get to your questions.
So Jamie, right?
Goodman asked me a question, a friend of the show.
I used to use his sound drop talking about the RBS at the end.
I haven't used that in a long time.
Especially since I've gone to full video, but it is kind of funny.
And I was on his show a long time ago.
He's one of the moderators admins on hard parking violations.
And, uh, he, he drives me crazy a lot with his political stuff because we,
we don't see eye to eye politically, but that's okay.
Thoughts on Amazon, bringing the mass effect games to the small screen.
I know we're both big mass effect fans.
So obviously I'm hopeful.
So for those of you don't know, mass effect is a video game series.
I want to say it's the first one came out in early to maybe mid, mid 2000s.
I don't, I don't know when the first mass effect came out.
I want to say 2005 or 2006 for the Xbox, maybe, maybe multi-platform.
My son used to play it.
I never played it at the time, but eventually I played the trailer for mass
effect three and I was so hooked that I pre-ordered mass effect three and
bought mass effect two.
And it just became like my, one of my favorite games ever.
So what is mass effect?
You're, it's a third person game where you're kind of following your character around.
You're not first, you're not first person where you can't see your character.
It's third person.
So you're following your character around and you go through all these
decisions and you go through space and you got to stop this planet from being
destroyed and you have to go around and talk and recruit all these different people.
But the thing is your, your actions have consequences.
And the thing that blew my mind about the game is that it would carry over to
the next title.
So if you uploaded your saved data, then all the decisions you made in mass
effect two would have an impact on how mass effect three played out for your
character, not only for the things that you have, but for the NPCs, the other
computer characters you interact with, that data is uploaded.
So they know if you decided to detonate the starship, I don't know that, but
that's just an example, right?
So they know that in mass effect two, if you decided to detonate the starship to
save your friends, but you ended up destroying a planet, you know, so all
your decisions have consequences, or you would have saved the planet and
destroyed your friends.
You know, they were being kind of one of those deals, but that, that game was
heavy and I love the game.
And it was one of those games that kind of made you question yourself a little
bit because it's so immersive.
I've always envied people who could play video games just like mindlessly.
Like if you play a game and it's like, okay, you have to make a decision.
Do you want to help this person and give him money?
Or do you want to tell him to screw off?
And some people are okay with pulling out a gun and shooting people in video
games, just shooting them and I can't do that.
I'm just like, oh, I know it's just a game, but damn, what would I do in real
life?
Would I give them money, you know, or would I send them on their way?
Or would I just randomly decide to kill them in a video game because it
doesn't mean anything.
But mass effect kind of challenged me to be me.
Uh, and it kind of plays with your, it plays with your psyche a little bit.
It's like, okay, if I, if I can recruit all these people and get everyone home
safe at the end of mass effect three, that means I'm a good leader.
That makes me a good leader.
That means I have good leadership.
But if I sit there and let my friend die because he's sick in the game and I
don't see him again, and then I have to go do these other things, again, I may
have saved something and beat the mission, but I lost a computer friend.
And then like, it's weird, man.
And like, it really hurts.
But anyway, so I had to do some research on a lot of these questions.
So rumored last year, November, 2024.
There was rumors that they were going to make a mass effect TV show Amazon.
When I did some research, it looks like it was kind of kicked up four years ago.
Four years ago, they secured the rights to make it.
They just haven't done anything yet.
Um, and it looks like they're going to start filming the fourth quarter of
2026.
So basically next year at this time, they're going to start filming.
So I did some research.
The most recent mass effect game mass effect, legendary edition, which was
basically a remastering version of the original three games was released in May
of 2021.
It's 2025.
Supposedly they're working on another title, but the thing that I think makes
fallout, I don't know if you've seen followed on, on Amazon, but the thing
that makes fallout successful is they're still pumping out games or updates to
their fallout video game and fallout video game.
All the fallout stuff is sub pop culture.
I mean, I have a ton of fallout shit here and I don't even have time to play
video games.
I got a ton of fallout stuff over there.
I got, that's what, that's what this is.
This is a fallout pit boys, what they call it.
You're wearing it on your waist and it takes all your vitals and it's in the
video game.
It's in the, it's in the TV show.
Like I am a, I love fallout, but it's because they keep releasing stuff and
you can just constantly buy stuff.
It keeps it fresh.
And then they made the super witty television series on Amazon prime.
If you haven't seen it, watch it.
It's a little quirky, dark humor, but I love it.
And season two comes out in a couple of months.
But anyway, what made that great is they, they keep relative content.
And I don't know what mass effect would do because there was a movie that
came out called Valerian.
I don't know if you've seen it or not, but when I saw the previews for
Valerian, actually I pulled it up over here, Valerian came out in 2017.
When I saw the previews of that, I swear that was mass effect.
Like, holy shit, they made a mass effect movie.
Except it wasn't.
It was a movie called Valerian.
And it's just like mass effect of video games.
So I don't know what they would make on a TV series because it feels cookie
cutter, like Andromeda, which I used to watch all the time.
Valerian.
You know, the space adventure with different, you know, creatures that,
that aren't necessarily human.
Um, I don't know how they would do it, but yeah, I'm excited about it.
Next question, Jeff Coda, the effect of loss of the cafe laws and future
of internal combustion vehicles.
And my thought was, is there a question there?
It's not a question.
Jeff is basically asking me to comment on it, which isn't a question, but instead
of being a dick, I decided to look it up a little bit because I'm like, what's
a cafe?
What it is, is that's the corporate average of fuel economies.
Standards often referred to as a cafe laws, which was enacted by Congress in
1975 as part of the energy policy and conservation at EPCA, um, in direct
response to the 73 74 Arab oil embargo, which highlighted the nation's vulnerability,
oil supply disruptions, the standards aimed to reduce fuel consumption,
promote energy conservation and decreased dependence of imported oil.
So basically think about your EPA, uh, better emissions, better fuel, um, fuel
economy efficiency, but I know there's actually been a lot of controversy with
this and, um, when it comes to cafe standards for passenger vehicles, the
big, beautiful bill eliminated that in July of 2025, have Congress passed the
one big, beautiful bill act, which you all have heard about, which eliminated
civil penalties for noncompliance with cafe standards for passenger cars and
light trucks, effective model years, 2027 and beyond.
So two years from now, not 25, not 26, but 2027 and beyond, the standards
themselves remained in place, along with reporting requirements, but without fines.
Previously, they were getting fined up to $51,000 per vehicle.
In some cases enforcement, effectively weakened penalties for medium and
heavy duty trucks not affected.
This could lead to reducing sentence for automakers to invest in efficiency,
potentially reshaping the market by lowering costs, but increasing fuel
consumption.
So the future of ice internal combustion vehicles, well, ice internal combustion
engines, but internal combustion vehicles, I don't think the loss of cafe laws is
going to do anything.
I think that in 1975, we made vehicles a lot differently than we do now incredibly
inefficient, seventies vehicles, eighties vehicles, and even most of the 90s
vehicles are terrible, but most of these vehicles made 2010 and newer.
I mean, oil changes now are 6,000 miles apart.
Before is 3000 miles and people who were very neurotic about it was changing
their oil every 1500 miles, some every six months, even if you've only driven
500 miles, you don't have to do that anymore.
And so maybe it was just some sort of a weird way for car manufacturers to either
make money or for the government to find them.
I don't think that one thing has anything to do with the other.
The future of internal combustion vehicles.
I think they're just going to continue to be more efficient.
There's another EV question on here, and maybe I'll talk a little bit more about
it when I get to it, but I don't think that the cafe laws, the effective
loss as Jeff Cota says of the cafe laws is a big deal.
We'll find out, but you know, we're talking 2027 and newer.
Jeff, and I don't, Jeff, I'm sorry.
I know we've met at a dinner sex pose.
I'm going to, I don't remember how to pronounce your last name.
Okay.
H S I E a Jeffrey H.
We're going to call you Jeffrey H while China and Europe continue to forge ahead
and EV tech.
Do you think the US is at risk of falling behind in the future because of our
anti EV in pro big oil legislation?
I would ask, why do you think we're anti EV and pro big oil legislation?
What are you pointing at exactly?
I think I've covered this a lot when it comes to EV.
Very recently, actually, you got to read the writing on the wall.
Nobody was buying these things.
I mean, everybody buys Teslas.
10 of all vehicles sold in the United States and they're mostly made in the
United States, so it's not a Tesla problem.
Most of these other EV companies, they lose money on every vehicle they try
to sell and there's a lot of them that just aren't selling.
People just don't want to buy them and it's not because everyone is in love
with the internal combustion engine.
I mean, only us legit car people care about that, but we represent less than
1% of the buying market, but it's, you know, you buy an electric car, then you
have to plug it into your house, then you have to buy a special charging unit.
If you want to make sure you have enough energy to make it through the night
on a full charge from the next day, you go to these charge stations.
75% of them don't seem to work anymore.
That's the number I pulled out of my ass.
I'm not going to quote it or cite it or anything.
People who buy EVs aren't really saving any money.
They sold us that dream and you can't get incentives anymore.
That's going away.
You can't drive in the HOV lane anymore.
That's going away.
Um, but I think that had EV sales been more successful, people would be buying
them, right?
Well, that didn't make sense.
Had EV sales been more successful, car manufacturers would, uh, I think they
would continue to, to make them.
And that's, that's another question.
I can't answer too much on this because literally the next question is very
similar to this one.
Again, people don't listen to the podcast, obviously, uh, we need oil, oil.
We use oil to make everything, not just gasoline, everything.
If you're listening to this and look around you, I guarantee you 90% of
wherever it is you're listening to this too, we're watching this 90% of
everything around you is made from oil.
So we need oil.
And again, anti EV, I don't think people aren't buying electric cars because
they want to stick it to the man.
They're just, they're expensive.
They're very expensive.
I mean, accurate.
The last episode we said that they canceled the ZDX.
That's a nice car.
They weren't selling them on the prologue.
Nice car, not selling the EV does charger.
Can't sell them.
All right.
Next question.
This is from our friend of the show, Ravi Tomlin.
What's up, Ravi?
Uh, what are your thoughts on alternative fuels such as using hydrogen
cells and how many of the manufacturers that doubled down on EV are now back peddling?
So think about what I just said.
Uh, I think they realized that there's a couple of things.
No one produces enough energy to sustain these really going back to Jeff
saying with the China, with China and Europe, they have a ton of EVs over there.
I went to Europe last year.
They're all small.
They all work.
Uh, they're a little different than what we're using over here.
Uh, China, I don't know how much of their EV stuff is true.
I know they're, they get a lot of their power from solar, but I think
they're having issues over there anyway, but regardless, we can't do it here.
We don't have the grid.
And I've said this before, we could put 10,000 new charge ports in every
single city, brand new charge ports.
We don't make enough energy to feed that.
The country does not make enough energy to feed that.
They have brownouts in California because they don't have enough power.
So you can make every car EV, but how are you going to charge them?
We just don't make enough power.
Look it up.
Uh, but anyway, back to Ravi's question, sorry.
Um, I think we'll get to the hydrogen fuel cells in a second.
I think that manufacturers are backpedaling because they see that nobody's buying it.
Nobody has the, the grid, the infrastructure to support it.
People want more improved hybrids, give me a better, more efficient, higher
performing, you know, internal combustion motor, and then pack on a really
nice modern EV to give it that extra power and that extra range.
I've said this, my NSX is, is a hybrid, but it's different than like a Toyota
Camry hybrid, uh, in a sense that my car, you can't, you can coast on it in
EV for a very short time.
You can't start it in EV unless the motor's already hot.
It uses those electric motors for performance only.
Whereas there's other hybrids where you can actually plug them in and you can
drive 20, 30, 40 miles on EV and then you can flip over to your gas tank and vice
versa.
You know, to me, that's a true hybrid system versus using hybrid technologies
that the NSX is using.
Um, but I think that's why their manufacturers are kind of back in a way.
I mean, Porsche, Ferrari just announced their little EV, their full EV, little
S-U-V and they lost some, so many billion dollars in market cap or something
crazy like that.
Like just looking up, look up a Ferrari's recent EV and it was a fail.
People don't want that.
They just don't want it.
If you buy a Ferrari, you want to buy a Ferrari.
You don't want to buy something with a Ferrari badge.
If it's an EV, it just doesn't make any sense.
And people are looking at that.
Porsche has had some success with their, with their, um, their take, their
take-hand, taken, but even that in itself, the sales are probably terrible and
just nobody wants it.
Um, specific to hydrogen, this is kind of cool.
All of this stuff I'm talking about right now, I, there's a link in the
episode description from GROC, which GROC is the AI that goes out and finds
all the Southern information.
I copy and paste it to paraphrase this.
The first practical hydrogen fuel cell was developed in 1959 by British
engineer Francis T.
Bacon, creating a five kilowatt alkaline fuel cell that could power machinery.
This paved the way for automotive use with General Motors, unveiling the
Electrovan in 1966.
The world's first hydrogen fuel cell vehicle, a modified handy van that
used a 32 fuel cell stack to produce up to 32 KW of power.
I think it's kilowatts.
I don't know.
It had a range of about 120 miles, but was heavy over 7,000 pounds due to
the fuel cell and tanks and never entered in production due to the high
cost and safety concerns with hydrogen storage.
So 1966 Electrovan.
So there you go.
We've been dealing with this for a while.
Since then, developments continue with milestones like NASA's use of fuel
cells and space stations in the 1960s prototype cars from various manufacturers
in the, in the 1990s, 2000s and commercial models like the Toyota Mirai,
MI, Mirai, M-I-R-A-I starting in 2014.
Challenges such as hydrogen production, infrastructure and cost.
I'll give you an example right now.
I have slow white widespread adoption, but research persists today.
In fact, in 2025, Honda introduced the CR-V-E-F-C-E-V.
Why haven't you heard of this?
Well, it's only sold in California and it's only sold in specific places in
California and it's the world's first plug in hydrogen fuel cell vehicle.
$50,000 MSRP with crazy incentives, which includes a $15,000 hydrogen fuel card.
It's very expensive to refill your car with hydrogen.
This was a Honda GM collab.
It's a single transmission system, five minute hydrogen recharge up ton,
read five minutes to recharge the tanks.
There's two tanks, a couple hours on the standard public EV charger,
a combined 270 miles of range, which is kind of cool.
So our friend, John Rivers, who was just on from drive culture and also Honda,
he did a video on this and that link is also in the description.
So I'll be looking for that.
The 2025 Honda CR-V-E-F-C-E-V.
So that's a thing that is a really cool thing.
But, you know, hydrogen, we hear about it and we think that our cars
are just going to blow up and I don't know how unstable it is.
I always think of some science fiction movie where they can't,
they got to be, they got to handle this stuff very carefully or like a terminator.
You know, the little fuel cell that the terminator has, it's like a small nuke
when he throws it out the window and it blows up and no one wants to be driving
on the car and just have their vehicle turn into a small nuclear warhead.
But I think that alternative fuels is the way to go in a hybrid type of situation
where you're combining different technologies to make things just
not only more efficient, but more reliable.
I don't think that we're going to run out of fossil fuels anytime soon.
They've been telling us this since the 1980s, maybe even the 70s.
And it all seems to be a big sky is falling thing.
We don't cause as much pollution as people think we do.
And I think that the more science that comes out, the less that people really lean on
the rush to dump all this money in developing certain things when it doesn't
seem to be a really dire need.
I don't care if my next car is hydrogen.
Is it fast? Cool.
Is it efficient? Great.
Is it easy to do maintenance on even better?
But what we do know is it's very expensive.
Hydrogen is very expensive.
Again, this incentive for this Honda CRV EFC EV includes a $15,000 hydrogen fuel card.
What does that tell you?
It tells you it's very expensive to fill your hydrogen fuel cells up.
But again, if you want to see or hear more about that, go to the drive cultures
review of that last year actually is when John posted.
And the link again is in the description.
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About this episode
Jay Finning discusses the recent Barrett Jackson event and the unfortunate cancellation of the Future Collector Car Show, which showcased modern classics. He reflects on the significance of this show for vehicles from the 90s and 2000s, emphasizing its role in promoting future collector cars. The episode also touches on various automotive events, the impact of CAFE laws on internal combustion vehicles, and the evolving landscape of electric and hydrogen fuel technologies. Listeners can expect a mix of personal anecdotes, industry insights, and listener questions.
In this episode of Hard Parking, host Jhae Pfenning dives into Barrett-Jackson's fall auction (and why he skipped it), mourns the end of the Future Collector Car Show, and recaps the epic Cleannuff car meet packed with exotics.
He answers listener Q&A on Amazon's Mass Effect TV series, the impact of eliminated CAFE penalties on ICE vehicles, U.S. EV struggles vs. global rivals, and hydrogen fuel cells—like the 1966 GM Electrovan and 2025 Honda CR-V e:FCEV. Plus, upcoming charity events!
Chapters:
2:28 - Barrett-Jackson fall auction & Future Collector Car Show RIP
8:54 - Cleannuff event recap Stradman & exotics
10:13 - Upcoming charity events: OneLess & Oct 25 St. Mary's Food Bank meet at Strad Pizza Q&A
14:26 - Mass Effect TV show excitement & game deep dive 20:47 - CAFE laws elimination & ICE vehicle future
24:02 - U.S. EV lag vs. China/Europe & why sales flop
26:49 - Alternative fuels: Hydrogen history, manufacturer EV backpedaling & Honda CR-V e:FCEV
