Bedlam in Baku! | Greg and Christian debrief a chaotic Azerbaijan GP

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¡And welcome to the fast and the curious Azerbaijan debrief!

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¡This is Greg James, joined by Christian Hugill!

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So, Isaac Haja was on the last episode.

If you missed that, then do have a listen to it.

He was on great form, as were you all,

but he was on great form after he finished his yoghurt, which I liked.

They're very relaxed the drivers in talking to us.

We had Oli Berman finishing jelly babies or gummy bears or something like that.

And then Isaac was like, yeah, I'll just finish the yoghurt.

But yeah, that's gone down very well.

Thank you for the lovely comments about that, Isaac.

And we guided him to a point today, so we must be decent.

Oh, thank you, Omens.

Let's do the top 10.

And I know that you would like to do this as a radio profesional as well.

But also, I did use to host the official chart show on radio once.

¿Do you want to do the top 10?

You can do the top 10 by all means.

¿Would you mind if I did the top 10?

No, not at all.

No, I've been delighted for you.

Crack on.

At 10, it's his third point.

Sorry, I've f***ed it already.

I just say I used to.

I used to do the official chart.

Doi, go again.

It's all right, breathe.

Yeah, this is why I don't do it anymore.

It's been a while.

It's been a while, okay.

At 10, it's because I was doing chart voice.

At 10, it's Isaac Hachar.

Third points finish in a row for him.

At nine, it's Shaula Clare.

At eight, it's Lewis Hamilton.

The first time he's beaten La Clare since Silverstone.

At seven, it's our McLaren boy, Lando Norris,

getting some points when his teammate didn't.

Six, Yuki Sonoda, best result for Red Bull for a while.

Fifth is Liam Lawson, best result of his career.

We're in the top four now with Kimi Antonelli,

best since his podium in Canada.

Third, we have Carlos Sainz.

It's his first podium since Abu Dhabi

in his last race for Ferrari

and his first for Williams as the smooth operator.

And at two, it's George Russell,

seventh podium of the season.

And at number one, it's arguably

the greatest driver of all time.

It's Max Verstappen,

his fourth win of the season,

proving he's still very much got it.

Lovely, lovely.

I really enjoyed that.

For the niche UK radio listeners,

I felt the voice was a good mix between

Goodyear and Vine, I would suggest.

But I really, yeah, lovely that, really enjoyed it.

You do have to, I think when you're doing a chart,

you have to go high.

It has to be high octane like that.

It's actually not a million miles away from your

Harry Benjamin slash Crofty, you know?

They go quite high up like that

when they're starting and then

when they settle into the race,

it goes a little bit more like,

where they're going like that is happening.

Yeah.

Lovely.

So, do you want to do the championship?

Yeah, this is how the championship looks then.

This is where you go deeper.

Okay, sure.

It's a deeper dive.

It's considered, isn't it?

Yeah, sure.

And therefore, this is how the championship now looks.

Oscar Leeds.

You've got a bit Chris Tarant here.

Okay.

Oscar Leeds on 324 points.

Lando is second on 299.

That's only maths fans, a 25 point gap.

Max is third on 255,

which is 69 points behind.

So that's, this is a significant race,

a very significant race.

And I'm so pleased we're going to get

an exciting unpredictable back end.

Back end of the season.

I think it's...

Back who end.

The back who end.

The point was made on the 5 live commentary

that I was listening to,

that for a neutral fan,

this is the dream scenario.

For a fan of the sport and for racing,

this is a dream scenario really,

that there are still twists

and turns in this story.

Well, I've said time and time again,

I don't care who wins.

You get accused whenever you have

formal one opinions nowadays,

you get accused of being biased

towards one or the other.

I don't care.

I don't care which one wins.

I just want it to be an exciting fight.

It is an exciting fight.

And if you did, we talk about

our sport being unpredictable.

But if you,

I can't think of a single more

unpredictable thing to happen

going into this weekend

than Oscar bidding it in qualifying

and then on the race

having a jump start

so messing up the start

and falling to the back

which you couldn't even see

on the TV pictures

on the Sky Sports commentary fee

Karun Chandok noticed it

being like bloody hell

Oscars at the back.

And then...

Who?

Lovely.

And then

putting it in the wall.

It's the least predictable thing

that could have happened.

So can I just quickly

get myself

and those listening

that didn't see much of qualifying

but heard the headlines.

What would the,

do I say,

what were the funny bits of qualifying?

Why was it such a mess?

It was such a mess

for a load of different reasons.

It's a lower track temperature

than you'd expect at 20 degrees

so the track's slippy

at the best of times.

It's a street race

so you've got painted white lines

which I think one of the last times

you were on the pod, Greg

we spoke about the white lines

being slippy.

That's a thing for street races.

Yeah, that was the Lewis bit

where he slipped on the green page.

You also had high winds

and changing winds

direction

making it incredibly unpredictable

for the drivers.

This generation of car

are particularly sensitive to wind.

Twitchy.

Yeah, twitchy.

You have the wind blowing

onto the circuit.

Wind, rain and stuff.

High humidity, rain

like little drops

and a track where

back here normally

if you have a high speed circuit

you'd have a tiny little wing, right?

So the downforce levels

would be super low

because you don't need as much grip

because it's fast, it's high speed

but at Baku

you've got a high speed section

in the back straight

and you've got really tight twisty bits.

So in those tight twisty bits

the drivers wouldn't have as much grip

as they might normally do

on a tight twisty circuit

like Monaco

because you can't go too

low in downforce

because you've also got

the long straight.

Right.

So it was a perfect storm

of things where it's a tricky setup

tricky conditions

and that's why you saw

the most number of red flags

we've ever seen

in a qualifying session

in the sports 75 year history

unbelievable

and so many people

make mistakes

including the world championship

leader Oscar Piestri.

Yeah, well let's

let's dig into Oscar then

because this is

this is our boy

we backed him for a while

are we seeing

a little bit of nerves

and getting a little bit

overwhelming for him

as we reached the end of the season

y he's got

he's got this championship

in his sights

is he is he faltering here

Well there's a couple of things

that obviously the crash

will grab the headlines

but let's look at it

in a bit of a wider context

we have seen races this year

where Lando Narraces had

the pace advantage

over Oscar Piestri

they've not been that many

but you look at Monaco

that was one where Lando

always looked quicker

and he got the win

but this is the first time

I can remember where

two weekends in a row

Lando's looks the quicker McLaren

there's a big but to that

and we'll get to it

so you know last weekend

in Italy Lando

looked the quicker overall

we've moved on to Baku

and you think well that won't

happen again

it's just not happened

two weekends in a row or season

and again Oscar

just didn't look quite

comfortable weekend

at times neither did Lando

but Lando had the edge

he makes this mistake

in qualifying

but then I did

I did a tiktok

and said like

it's a massive and goal

missed for Lando

because he only qualified

a couple of positions

higher than Oscar

so you think ok

he's going to go into the race

and he probably will recover it

shocking start

and he puts it into the wall

I can't answer that question

Greg of what's happened

the only person who can

is Oscar

by the time we're recording this

we've not seen the interviews yet

I don't think he'll say much

in them

he was hiding

he was taking his time

getting back to the garage

because he's like

I imagine he was going

I don't want to talk about this right now

you all want to go into the pen

I don't know exactly

so he was like

maybe I'll just walk around Baku

for an hour

go shopping

it's a nice town

looks like a town

it's the biggest test

of Oscar Piastri's

Formula 1 career

he needs to go to Singapore

and put these two weekends behind him

this one especially

because it's probably the worst weekend

of Oscar's career

you know in terms of

the highest profile mistakes

it's just so unlike him

he's been so Mr consistent

he doesn't make mistakes

he's shown maturity

for over his years

the speed's been there

it's just so unlike him

it's spectacular

so look Oscar Piastri

everybody has bad weekends

I'm not too worried about him

we do see people

just have shockers

just have stinkers

and Italy wasn't that

he wasn't quite as quick as Lando

Lando's not stupid

so it's

I don't think it's disaster

end of the world territory

for Oscar Piastri

but he

the test of just brushing this away

and going out in Singapore

and putting it on the podium

or winning the race will be huge

it's a really significant Singapore

for Oscar already

I guess then the next question is

well how significant is it

for the championship

and

Greg

Max Verstappen winning the championship

is

unlikely

sure

but not impossible

sure

and if anyone could

pull the McLaren pants down

in the last few races

it's him

and he will absolutely

believe that he could do it

surely

that's him

that's his brain

he'll know that realistically

it's going to be very difficult

but if the car holds up in Singapore

if it works for them

well there

and he gets a bit of luck

and you know

if someone else Lando puts it in the wall

or something else happens

or a wheel falls off or something

then

it's

you know in the words of Dumb and Dumber

so you're saying there's a chance

there is a chance

we'll talk more about Max in a minute

I think two more weekends

two more weekends of winning

like he's done in the last two races

and two more weekends of maybe Oscar

not coming second

maybe if you're Max you start to think

ok it's possible

we'll come back to Max

because he deserves more

than just a fleeting reference

in a title battle that he's unlikely to win

because the headline

is Lando Norris

we've been saying

after his engine problem

a couple of races back

it seems unlikely

but I've been sat on the podcast going

it's not impossible

but two weekends of the row

where he's been quicker than Oscar

two weekends where he hasn't won the race

and this weekend

was just

a massive opportunity

the saw it feels unlikely

he'll get again

I've been saying on every podcast

you never know because

Oscar might have an engine failure

Oscar might be tapped into a spin

I didn't think for a minute it would be

Oscar put it in the wall

but every podcast where I've been going

it's too early to write it off

that thing happened

the thing happened

and yet Lando wasn't able to

wasn't able to shoot into the open goal

to use the football analogy

and the thing is

I'm not too hard

in the race

historically

I said this on the preview show

historically Baku is really tricky

to overtake because

of the DRS train

because everybody gets the DRS advantage

on the straight

it's actually really tricky to overtake

round Baku

for me

the mistake happened

in qualifying

where again Greg

to go back to Max

all those tricky conditions I mentioned

who steps up

and does the best job

it's Max Verstappen

and actually alright

even if the red bull is the quicker car this weekend

if you Lando you need to be putting it on the podium

and it's starting to feel a bit like

last year to me

where we know that

it's possible for Lando to catch

but it just doesn't feel likely

just doesn't feel like it's going to happen

and I just think

qualifying was where it all got away from Lando

you can't, if you're

a title battle and you know you need to do everything

and you're given this

gift

perfectly Christmas wrapped

bow on top from Oscar Piastri

here you are Lando take this

have this present from me

if you don't take the present

you're in trouble

and combine that

with

McLaren having another slightly dodgy pit stop

it feels like pit stops are a bit of an issue

because he might have got a couple more

positions up during the race

if his stop hadn't been buggered up

it just is such

a colossal massive opportunity

missed from Lando and Aris

and it's just starting to feel like last year that

I'm not sure he's quite got enough

to do what he needs to do

to win this world championship

that feels sad

that feels, I feel sad

hearing those words from you

I feel sad saying it because

he's a phenomenally talented racing driver

on his day

he's sensational

but it's two seasons

in a row

and I take no pleasure in saying this

I'm lucky enough to speak to Lando a lot

I like him as a human being

as a racing driver

he's a really good human

I like Lando and Aris an awful lot

but last year

whenever there was the opportunity

it didn't quite feel like he took

he grabbed the opportunity quite enough

and it's starting to feel the same here

I think a world championship contender

in qualifying

puts it in that McLaren

at the very least in the top three

if Max is in that McLaren today

in Lando's position starting

wherever he started 7th, 8th, 9th

is Max making more of a headway through the fields

even if it's tricky to overtake?

I actually think he is

yeah, well that's the thing isn't it

that's the ruthlessness

which maybe

Lando has lacked

at times

and so you've got someone like George

who's pushing

he was pushing, he was doing some overtakes

unexpected

George was sensational this weekend

by the way

the man looked like he was about to drop dead on the podium

he is so poorly

and he did an amazing job

he is so poorly

so there were some moments where

I think the commentators were saying

that's not a corner you normally try and overtake on

and he's nailed it

he's going for it

he knows what's at stake

he knows what's needed

to get up that field

same with Carlos

and absolutely

the same with Max

who

I don't know

he's sort of in a weird way

he's got not a lot to lose here

it's McLaren's to

**** up isn't it

you couldn't be more right

it's Max has got

no

nothing to lose

because also against the odds

in lots of different ways

car not quite being up to scratch

you know being bit inconsistent

the fuss around Christian Horner

all of the turmoil

all the second seat

changing constantly around him

and yet

he just keeps

driving

really well

really fast

and is

seemingly unfazed

I mean I think I've mentioned the word

psychopaths before

like these drivers

have that switch in their head

where they can be psychopathic

of just like

I don't care

what else is going on in the world

or in my life or anything

I'm gonna **** drive this car

so damn fast

and they just

they do it fearlessly

and it's actually

really amazing

it's just amazing to watch

I really loved watching it today

and I

felt really

excited for Max

strangely on the podium

I was like

I'm really into this for you

you've really nailed it

something me you and Betty

all have in common is we're all sports fans

like not just F1 fans

we love all sport

Greg you're a huge cricket fan

you love seeing excellence

in cricket

where you take your hat off

and go that is incredible

we're witnessing sporting excellence

in Max Verstappen

you know he is

the best driver

in Formula 1

and also by a country mile

he's a reminder

that if you are going to beat them

McLaren

about such a big advantage this year

but if you take your eye off the ball

for a split second

Max will beat you

he's terrifying for his opponents

because if you're Mercedes

or you're McLaren

and you're trying to take

or you're Ferrari

and you're trying to take the fight to Red Bull

Max is a cheat code

because you only need

a car that's close to the level of the others

for Max to win

Red Bull haven't got the overall best package

but they've definitely made improvements

since

Laurent Mackie's took over

the car seems more drivable

they've taken a step forward

but regardless of all of that

Max Verstappen

is

the best driver in Formula 1

and this weekend

is just yet another reminder of that

he is

you know

I don't like comparing drivers of eras

your Fangios

your Schumacher

your Hamilton's

but put it this way

drivers at their peak

peak Hamilton, peak Fangio

peak Schumacher

there's never been anybody better

than Max Verstappen

he's an all time

generational great

he's sensational

and he's never going away

as long as he's racing in Formula 1

he's never ever ever going away

he's ridiculous

I can't heap praise enough of him

we're all lucky to be living through the year

of watching Max Verstappen

because it will be

F1 75 years of age

he will be being talked about

in another 75 years

he is unbelievable

it makes it very exciting as well

for the rest of this season

and the last few races

we will be

right back to talk about

the incredible Williams result

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Alright, then. It's the Fast and the Curious.

This is Greg James and that's Christian Hugo.

And we are debriefing the Azerbaijan Grand Prix.

We've just talked extensively about Max and Lando and Oscar.

But let's talk about the smooth operator.

What a moment.

So happy for him. Such a nice man, such a great head of hair,

such a talented driver.

I know he jokes about a smooth operator,

but you could describe him as an operator.

He is an operator. He knows that sport so well.

Part of the thing about being a great driver

and an experienced driver, a mature driver, I guess,

is that you lead the team.

He has to lead the team even when he's in the car.

And he's strategising as well.

He's got one of those great brains.

The great drivers have that great brain, don't they?

The top sports people, particularly in F1,

they make great team principles.

They make great strategists,

head of strategy type things,

but they are also amazing at driving.

You could hear how much that meant to him

in his little radio message at the end of the race.

Before I go into the emotion,

a lovely little point you made there.

The sort of example of that was when

his race engineer had said to him,

he was a second and George did the overcut.

Brilliant strategy, brilliant execution from Mercedes.

He's already said.

His engineer came on and said,

it's going to be tricky to get to George.

He might be thinking that Carlos was being frustrated.

No, I want to get my second back.

Carlos has already spotted.

That's gone fine,

but solidifying this P3 for us is wonderful.

I've got Antonelli behind me to worry about.

He was one step ahead.

So you're absolutely right, Greg.

La razón I've been saying about Carlos

and I'm not worried about him.

We've seen how difficult it is for drivers

who've moved teams at the end of this

rule cycle, what Hamilton and signs at the two,

they've come up against teammates who've been in

position for bloody ages and found it really tricky

to match them.

And I've never been worried about Carlos

because you've seen these flashes of pace.

It's like, well, he's obviously still got it

and most of the time it's coming qualifying

because on his side,

a couple of dodgy strategy decisions from Williams

and a whole lot of bad luck.

But I just knew it was going to come together

for Williams and for Carlos at some stage.

I just knew it was and today that's happened.

It's amazing for Carlos

because he is a phenomenal Formula One driver

but having to dig deep in your own ability

must be tricky in these situations.

Look what I've done.

He's much better than this.

What was Baku?

Are we 16 rounds into the season now?

I can't remember.

15, 16, something like that.

All of these races where it's been tricky.

Can I still do this?

Well, he didn't stop believing in himself.

Don't stop believing as

Journey wants so famously so.

He said that on the radio.

It's a little reminder of that.

And this is also symbolic for

Williams and what they've

done.

They've gone from a team

that are way at the back, not too

long ago where they were struggling

to get a spare chassis

where they were arriving

at the Logan Sergeant era.

Exactly where Logan had to give

his car away to Alex

where

they were turning up to preseason

testing late.

The turnaround in Williams has been

sensational.

There's a brilliant team atmosphere there.

I'm lucky enough to witness that with

Williams. They are all singing

from the same hinge.

United. Alex and Carlos get on brilliantly

well.

And someone from Williams text me, hi Bex, and said

I can't believe it. And I just sort of said I can.

I think this podium's been coming for a long time.

Yeah.

And I'm so delighted for Carlos because

they are in such a good position going into the new

set that Williams will get more podiums.

Don't think this is a one off.

I'm just

there'll be one man, Greg, who might feel

and he won't say it out loud because he's too much of a lovely man

but it is a little tricky moment for Alex.

Obviously because he is a competitor

and an insanely talented driver

and also ambitious and wants to win

all these people want to win

and he would want to win a world championship one day

and I think he probably will one day.

But

he would have wanted to have been James Vowell's first podium.

Wouldn't he?

He would. And this weekend

a rare, rare, rare

I wouldn't even say bad weekend.

Well, you know, it is a bad weekend.

A rare bad weekend for Alex where he's made mistakes

in qualifying, he made another mistake in the race

and got a penalty for it with a slightly dodgy overtake

maneuver, an unbelievably rare bad weekend

for Alex Albon because he has been

sensational this year and this weekend

does not change that. He has

dragged that car up into the top four.

You know, he's been consistently in the points.

Williams are looking so good in the constructors.

That's massively down to Alex.

Alex's time will come and he's a lovely man.

He will, as you said, Greg, look, you know,

beautifully poor, he'll be frustrated.

You want that to be you.

But I heard that he jumped over to Carlos

as soon as the race had finished.

He's a classy operator.

He's a smart man.

You know, these people are smart

and he knows that you can hold two things

in your head at the same time.

You can be gutted for yourself.

You can be frustrated.

You can also be jealous for the other person.

But you could also be happy for them

and say, well done, mate.

That was actually really, really good.

And I imagine he did.

I'm just so pleased for Williams.

They deserve it so much.

It's a brilliant feel good sporting story.

And yeah, don't think this is a flash in the pan.

There will be more podiums.

It's nice to look at it and the, you know,

the long term because there's a tendency

in the world we live in,

which is you live race to race.

You're like, they're **** now.

Oh, they're good again.

Oh, they're **** now.

Oh, they're good.

Oh, they're rubbish now.

They're **** over the course of a longer stretch of time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

These sorts of things.

And that's been James's attitude since day one

and he's been unashamed to do that.

And also people in positions of power in sport

are under such pressure to get instant results

and James has gone, I'm not bothered about that.

My job is to focus on the future

and they've had tough seasons to do that

and it is now starting to pay off.

Brilliant.

Shall we talk about Liam Lawson?

Oh, I'd love to.

So that's, he's had a tough time.

He's had a very tough time.

Un ceremonial, un ceremoniously dumped

and it seems to be from my perspective at least

that some of the toxicity has been, has left the sport

and Liam got removed from the Christian Horner situation anyway.

But it just feels like everything seems

a little bit, a little bit, maybe.

I felt for Liam Lawson.

It's not too long ago.

The 2013 Singapore Grand Prix,

Liam Lawson in his third starting formula one gets ninth.

It's not too long ago.

23, I think you said 2013.

Did I?

Yeah, no, he's not been around that long.

2023.

Thank you, Greg.

Yes, I'm aging poorly in there.

23, absolutely.

I know the season is long,

but it does sometimes feel like it's been going through 2013 this season.

Liam's been around a long time.

No, you know, it wasn't,

it wasn't that long ago.

It wasn't that long ago,

but it wasn't that long ago.

The Liam deputizes in place of Daniel Lucardo,

the formula one world's going,

oh my God, Liam Lawson deserves a seat.

And Greg, you mentioned the short term ism of sports.

All of a sudden, the world's all of a sudden decided

Liam doesn't deserve his place in this sport

because of what happened at Red Bull

because he's definitely been a bit overaggressive at times,

but you can forgive that.

He's fighting for his career

for the thing he's been fighting for

ever since he was literally five years of age.

These kids are planted into the motorsport machine.

Of course he's fighting for it.

And it was amazing to me

how the sort of storyline turned over, Liam Lawson,

that it shouldn't be an F1

when only a couple of years ago

he was being this amazing supercell.

I am delighted for Liam Lawson

because I remember when Will Buxton came on the pod

and got and said I back Liam

and he got so much stick, Will did.

And I agree with Will, I always have.

Liam is a bloody good driver

and the up and downness in his career.

The coming in and then losing the seat

and then going to Red Bull and then coming back.

He's had so much to deal with.

Greg, go back to what I was saying

about qualifying earlier.

That reminder that he's done so well in qualifying

but executing it in the race is a different thing.

Hadja has grabbed the headlines a lot this season.

Liam deserved that result.

Brilliant from him.

I'm delighted for him.

I'm sure he'll keep his seat at RB next year

and he deserves it.

I'm really pleased for Liam Lawson.

And we're hoping to speak to Liam

on the podcast later in the season,

which I'd like to.

Oh, that's good.

Yeah, I spoke to him a few times.

He said, I really like him.

Always liked him.

A really nice guy to chat to.

Really interesting guy.

He's also only 23.

I know.

There's time.

An actual child.

Yeah, there's time here.

And a lot has, his name has been banded around

for a long time now it seems,

but actually he's still,

it's still very early days.

And a lot has happened to him

in a short space of time.

Yeah, exactly.

Quite a loud,

quite a loud,

it's very loud if you get put in a red ball.

Like suddenly you're very,

very famous because you're in a red ball.

And so for it to go wrong like that,

it requires a lot of digging deep

from the individual to go,

all right, that wasn't ideal.

But I'm just going to just keep trusting my thing.

And I can just,

I know I can drive and I can do that.

He didn't have a preseason in this car

because he was in the red bull,

very different car.

You know,

a period of stability in this,

in his career,

which he should get or being well.

I'd be staggered

if he wasn't in that car next season.

We'll do him the world of goods.

And then you want to do

what like Pierre Gasly's done.

All right.

Gasly got promoted and it didn't work out.

But he went off

and he's rebuilt his career elsewhere.

That'll ultimately be the aim for Liam Lawson.

Go and do well at RB

and then hope to get a drive elsewhere

and get back to the,

to a front running car.

Can I talk about the fizzy elephant in the room?

The fizzy, sugary,

high energy elephant in the room,

which is,

Red Bull does seem to have got better

since they got rid of Christian Horner.

Yeah.

As I say that,

Red Bull's the car.

The drink still tastes like.

Yeah, you've never liked, have you?

Oh, it's disgusting.

Why are you drinking that?

Anyway, but yeah,

but in general,

apart from the drink,

has not got any better.

They have seem to have,

it has got better.

There seems to be some cohesion

and dare I say some harmony.

I think the team will be grateful

for not having the spotlight on them

in the way it was on them in the past.

Yeah.

They can focus.

He became the story, didn't he?

He became the focus.

Yeah.

You can focus on racing

and they've got a real strong lineup of drivers.

The Red Bull A team,

the car has got more drivable.

They've unlocked some potential there.

Yuki Senoda,

best result of the season for him.

I'm going to talk about him in a minute.

RB things seem well.

It really does seem like a much better place to be

and both teams are doing well.

Greg, you're absolutely right.

That can't be argued.

We'll be back with Christian's Coby Hole

and Betty's Radio Radar next.

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Vamos a poner tu cobi-hole.

Me gusta.

Me gusta el cobi-hole.

Es un...

Creo que es un libro de Teds.

¿No?

Es un...

Tal vez.

Es una de las cosas que

te has explicado

que no te podrías hacer.

Es eso.

¿Quién te pones en tu cobi-hole?

Hay pocas cosas que te podrías mencionar.

Luis Hamilton

pareció más deslizado

este mes.

Es un...

¿Quién te pones?

Me gusta.

Sí, te parece feliz.

Te parece feliz.

Sí, te parece feliz.

Es muy delicioso.

Ezek, un tercer punto.

En el que te mencionaste

en tu gráfico.

Pero...

Pero voy a

ir a dos personas.

No sé si han ido demasiado

a la radar.

Pero...

Uno es Yuki Sinoda.

Yuki Sinoda.

¿Qué es Yuki Sinoda?

Que lo mencionamos antes de la break.

¿Cómo es el truco de la cual fue?

A pesar de los problemas que ha tenido este año,

¿tienes la posición de primer para Yuki

para ponerlo en una bala?

No lo ha hecho.

Tiene una gran cualificación.

Y, de nuevo,

mencioné con Lawson

que luego ejecuta eso en el rato.

Es un juego diferente.

Y Yuki ha hecho eso.

6-6 es su mejor resultado

para Red Bull.

Él merece eso.

Y él quiere

proveer a Lauren Mekki.

Dime mi silla al próximo año.

No a Ezek.

Y si él cae con resultados como este,

donde él está en el top 6,

él puede bien obtener eso.

O sea, hay rumores

de que esa decisión ya se ha hecho.

Vamos a encontrarlo.

Y Ezek va a conseguir la silla.

Vamos a encontrarlo.

Pero...

He mencionado en el show anterior con Betty.

He sido bastante sorprendido

con Toto Wolf.

Sorta de siendo un poco

bastante apuntado con Kimi Antonelli

y diciendo sobre Italia,

que fue disapointe.

Y...

He sido sorprendido.

No había ido por el reto de la espalda.

Y...

Tal vez...

El reto de la espalda

ha trabajado.

Porque Kimi ha sido más mejor

esta semana.

El cuarto lugar,

el mejor resultado

desde su podium en Canadá.

Una forma de formación miserable

en términos de errores,

en términos de

no tener el rápido más rápido.

Y lo vimos

el rápido más rápido

al inicio del siglo.

Se vean esta semana

el Kimi del inicio del siglo,

donde él se ve un

muy sólido 2° 2º de Mousa

y, obviamente,

mi amor es mí.

Kimi Antonelli es,

es, es literalmente 4 años de edad.

Él es,

él es de nivel de la universidad.

Así que,

se desarrollará

ese segundo dirigido

para alguien que podría llevar a la equipo

y el Championship de la Tierra

en el futuro,

más mejor de Kimi Antonelli

este, este mes.

Y él ahora,

yo creo que,

realmente,

él puede cambiar el sentimiento

alrededor de su temporada de la temporada en el Fórmula 1.

Si él solo

mantiene en el track,

mantiene con un mes

entre ahora y el final de la temporada,

en este final del siglo,

yo creo que,

él,

sería muy bien para él

para llegar al final de la temporada

y pensar,

he recuperado de una pata muy chica,

lo que he perdido mi confianza,

y solo fue mucho más solidario

al final de la temporada.

Así que,

sí,

mucho mejor de Kimi,

este mes.

Y estoy muy contento de él.

¿Puedo jugar en una granada aquí?

¡Oh, sí!

Y es,

y no es necesariamente algo

que me acuerdo con,

pero he tenido un interesante chat

con un amigo de mí,

llamado Ed,

que ha sido un fan

de Fórmula 1.

Él estaba ahí,

como todos,

en los 90s

y en los primeros 90s.

Y su favorito conductor

fue Jensen Button

y todo eso.

Así que,

él ha visto muchos de ellos

venir y ir,

y él ha visto esta era

de ser un nuevo fenómeno de la sporting,

y un fenómeno de la entertainación.

Y él todavía lo gusta

el Fórmula 1.

Él no es uno de los

de,

¡Oh, no quiero vivir!

Brigade.

¡No, sí, sí, sí!

Y él todavía lo gusta

y lo ve todo,

lo ve todo,

pero él ha hecho un punto de,

él dijo,

yo me preocupo,

a veces,

que no hay

suficiente

potencial iconos

de los 20s.

¿Puedes desagradar con eso?

Él dijo que hay

unos muy buenos

sortes de los ráfagos

de los ráfagos

que son muy buenos,

que ponen buenas performances,

que satisfacen

los soldados

y tal, tal, tal, tal.

O,

¿dónde crees que es malo?

Y entonces,

hay algunos potenciales,

legendas absolutas,

en ese 20,

en ese delito.

¿Es there,

¿es there a next max?

¿Es there a next

Lewis?

¿Cuáles son?

¿Es there a next,

Fernando?

¿O es que

está jersey-punga negativo?

Me respeto

desagradar con él.

Yo creo que

hay más

que hay

en mi

tiempo

de la siguiente Formula One,

si no,

más.

Antonelli

puede igual ser

esa persona.

Yo no creo que él se ha quedado en el mundo, como muchos lo esperan, pero él es tan joven,

empezando con una presión tan alta, así que yo creo que Kimi es piastro, sin pregunta, es...

Creo que agregamos a Oscar. Bueno, no creo que eso es necesariamente verdad, y si

veas a Oscar, solo necesitas una cada generación para ser el mejor, y pueden

preguntar a un par de generaciones como hemos visto con, con Luis y con...

Bueno, yo creo que hay muchos grandes ejámenes. Sí, sí, sí, sí.

No, no creo... Y estamos hablando de esos nombres de casa iconológicos,

y creo que es un poco para ser el nombre de casa. Creo que eso es lo que es, pero sí.

Es una pregunta interesante. Sí, y también tienes gente que

solo toma un par de cosas para ir correctamente y un par de cosas para

clicar en un lugar que podría ser eso. Charlemando, por ejemplo.

Así que no, creo que el sport está en un lugar muy, muy saludoso, y también

tiene... oye, tal vez no serán generacionales, pero son tan emocionantes.

Signos en el albón, Ezekadja, Gabriel Bortoletto ha tenido una gran primera sesión.

Así que no, creo que es un punto muy interesante, pero no, creo que el sport está en un lugar

muy bueno, y también tiene esa balances entre los nombres y los nombres,

también, con Luis y Fernando still around, creo que es muy emocionante.

Así que creo que no, creo que estamos en un lugar muy bueno.

Pero será interesante cuando ellos van, y algunos de los otros tienen que

cubrir esos nombres, y ser el próximo Superstars.

De todas maneras, solo el tiempo se dirá. ¿Qué sobre el radar radio, entonces?

Así que he mencionado Carlos con su, con su,

el primer... esa fue mi primera operación smooth para Williams.

Oh, lo lindo cuando dijo eso sobre el radio, lo lindo.

¿Quieres si se pensó sobre eso antes de la ración?

O es que eso fue a él en el momento, no me acuerdo.

Esto es Betty's bit, pero ella presenta el fútbol ahora, cuando hablamos.

Y yo tendré que desplazarlo. He spotado todo el tiempo que hago esto.

Tengo algo muy importante sobre lo que es malo.

Así que, por favor, estoy claramente no tan bueno en notar que esto es Betty.

He disfrutado en lap 29 cuando Ezekadja se preocupó sobre Kimmy Antonelli.

He disfrutado su ingeniería de la ración.

No se preocupe, como en...

Estamos buscando diferentes opciones de estrategia, y luego terminando con...

Estamos buscando a ti.

Creo que si yo estuviera en una ración de fútbol...

Sí, me gustaría estar contigo.

Estamos buscando a ti.

Sí, es bastante cabinero.

Estamos aquí para tu conforto.

Estamos aquí para tu conforto, pero principalmente para tu seguridad.

Sí, estamos buscando a ti.

Lo lindo.

Si hay algo que podemos hacer, eso es bien, pero estamos aquí para tu seguridad,

principalmente.

Sabes, no somos tus servidores.

También me gustó que hay un bit de George Russell,

donde él estaba en...

Él estaba en tiempos difíciles.

Y Kimmy estaba en medios.

Y él sortó...

Él casi dio un mensaje a todos y a Kimmy

por hablar con su ingeniería de ración y dijo...

Se siente como que tengo una advertencia de tiempos.

Se siente como que puedo tal vez...

Tal vez, tomar el lugar de Kimmy.

Tal vez, me siente...

Tal vez, me siente como que mis tiempos se sienten advertencias de ellos.

Así que eso fue bastante divertido.

Él es chico, George, ¿no?

Hablando de George,

no sé si esto está permitido en Radio Radar,

pero, sinceramente, Beti no está aquí,

vamos a hacer lo que queremos.

Los ladros están en charge.

Así que estoy tomando un poco de la cadera de caldo,

que fue George diciendo...

Cada vez que se ha entrado en una cordera particular,

pensé que había un flag de yellow,

y luego decía, y yo recuerdo...

No era un flag de yellow,

pero era el gran D.H.L. grandioso.

Bueno, me gustó el tipo de cosas como eso,

pero es un poco ridículo.

Muy bueno para D.H.L., un buen momento para ellos.

Estoy muy seguro de que podría ser mal aquí.

Si alguien me acercó de que hay un momento,

tal vez fue en Vegas,

donde Oscar Piastro kept saying,

he kept thinking it was a red flag,

and it was a woman in a red dress in Vegas last year.

Brilliant, when this amazing sport has moments of life.

And it always reminds me of,

speaking of the 90s,

Micah Haconan,

where he told me once that he'd been using

his breaking point.

Like, most of these drivers pick a point

where it's like that's where I break,

and all weekend in Monaco,

Micah had been using a boat as a breaking point,

and then goes round on the formation lap on the Sunday,

and then the boat had moved.

Right.

So it's like, you get out on the Sunday,

it's like, oh, for God's sake, that's not helpful.

The boat's gone.

It's been there all weekend, so...

Difficult. I'd say pretty risky to rely

on something floating on the sea to stay still.

But normally they dock over the weekend, don't they?

But that one hadn't gone.

Although Micah told me that story,

and it's in podcast form.

There's evidence of it.

Then once I reminded him of that story,

a couple of years later,

it said that didn't happen.

So Micah's lovely, brilliantly mad.

So whether that happened

or Micah made that up, I don't know.

But he definitely told me that story.

And then when I reminded him of it

in Monaco this year,

then said, I don't know what he's talking about.

So I'm going, he's on a podcast Micah.

Anyway, Micah Haconan for you there.

I just thought that he's making a fool out of you.

I was just thinking that...

I don't know why more people don't bring flags with them.

It really f***s things up.

I'm not suggesting that people should do that.

No, I think I would get on quite badly.

Don't do that.

But I'm surprised that not more people

are just going to take a red flag

with me just for a laugh.

I guess it would be incredibly dangerous.

But I'm just...

It's very respectful of the fans

and I'm pleased that they don't.

Could maybe ask Fast and Curious listeners

next season to bring pink flags

with them for our podcast to Silverstone.

That'd be great,

because you imagine just like a load of pink flags.

And the pink flags are up

and I don't know what that means,

but all the drivers have slowed to a stop.

Just a bit of a pink...

Pink flag means carry on,

but in a slightly more camp way than usual.

It's like me doing a Formula One podcast.

I think we're done on the debrief.

Christian, it's been lovely

to chat this through with you.

A really good race

and we are set up nicely

for the final 68 races remaining this season.

Where are we next?

Where are we heading next?

To Singapore.

I think to Singapore next.

And before we go, Greg,

I just wanted to send podcast love and best wishes

to the very promising

young British racing driver Will McIntyre.

Will's 18 and been diagnosed

with brain and lung cancer.

Will races in the GB3 Championship.

It just dawned on me

when I was reading about this this weekend

that Formula One sometimes feels so stressful

that people state their opinions

in comments of podcasts like this

and on the internet,

like it's just the end of the world.

And I just think you read news like that

about such a young and exciting talent

and you're just reminded

of what's important in life.

And this sport that we've just enjoyed

talking about for the last 40 minutes

ultimately isn't, that is.

And we could all do with remembering that sometimes

when we have our passionate opinions

about this sport.

So get well soon, Will.

The whole of the motor racing world

is with you.

I've seen so many lovely messages

for Will this week

from all across motor racing,

up and down,

different forms,

different categories,

which is which is just touching

to see an awful bit of news,

but so touching to see the response.

So yeah, get well soon, Will.

Yeah, we send all our love

to Will McIntyre

and his friends and family

and you're absolutely right.

We should enjoy the nonsense

and the circus

and the ridiculousness of sport

and these wonderful distractions

that distract us from the realities

of life sometimes

and absolutely we will continue

to do that on the fast and curious.

But yes, we send our love to Will

for an actual real bit of drama

which is happening.

So we'll be back before Singapore

and then after Singapore.

Have a great rest of your weekend everybody.

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