{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"BONUS: Company EV Fleets Are WAY More Important Than You Think","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/bonus-company-ev-fleets-are-way-more-important-than-you-think","audioUrl":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8869569.mp3?modified=1772668027&sid=5051980&source=rss","description":"In November 2021, the Belgian parliament passed a tax reform that most Europeans never heard about. It phased out depreciation write-offs for petrol and diesel company cars. By 2026, the deduction disappeared entirely — combustion-engine company cars became zero per cent tax-deductible. Battery-electric vehicles stayed at 100 per cent.The market responded without hesitation.Corporate electric vehicle uptake surged — climbing 13 to 15 percentage points per year. By 2025, Belgium's fleet zero-emission vehicle share hit 54.2 per cent. In 2021, it was 8.8 per cent. Over the same period, Germany — Europe's industrial heavyweight — crept to 19.1 per cent.Belgium proved something simple: change the tax, change the market. Fast.Those precedent matters because in December 2025, the European Commission unveiled a regulation that could remake how Europeans buy, drive and eventually inherit their cars.The Clean Corporate Vehicles Regulation (CCVR) — part of the wider Automotive Package — sets out to electrify corporate fleets, the single largest slice of Europe's new car market. The strategy is elegant: turn company cars into a conveyor belt that pushes affordable electric vehicles into the hands of ordinary drivers within a few years.If Europe wants to change what people drive, it should start with the cars that businesses buy in bulk, run hard and swap out quickly so the rest of us can buy them second hand.​The Commission agrees with that much. Its proposal for a Clean Corporate Vehicles Regulation, tucked into the EU’s automotive package, aims to push corporate fleets towards zero and low emission vehicles from 2030.Transport & Environment, the clean transport group that spends its days reading the small print, has now read it. It likes the premise. But it does not like the numbers."},"annotations":[{"startTime":89.8,"endTime":93.58,"type":"term","title":"gas guzzlers","url":"/glossary/gas-guzzlers","quote":"It phased out the depreciation write-offs for gas guzzlers.","canonicalId":"term:gas-guzzlers","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.95,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4.1-mini","data":{"explanation":"Gas guzzlers are vehicles that consume a large amount of fuel compared to typical cars, often due to large engines or poor fuel efficiency. 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It helps encourage people to choose cleaner cars like electric vehicles."}},{"startTime":1239.3,"endTime":1242.4,"type":"concept","title":"company car taxation","url":"/glossary/company-car-taxation","quote":"many would say, in its reform of company car taxation, raised benefit in kind for combustion cars, like we did here in the UK","canonicalId":"concept:company-car-taxation","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.95,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4.1-mini","data":{"explanation":"Company car taxation refers to the tax policies applied to vehicles provided by employers to their employees for personal use. These taxes often influence the types of cars companies choose for their fleets, especially regarding emissions and fuel types.","simplifiedExplanation":"Company car taxation means rules about how much tax you pay if your work gives you a car to use. 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If they make cars that pollute too much, they have to pay money as a penalty."}},{"startTime":1494.5,"endTime":1498.0,"type":"concept","title":"used car market","url":"/glossary/used-car-market","quote":"the used car market 8 in 10 people buy used cars.","canonicalId":"concept:used-car-market","priority":0.9,"confidence":1.0,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4.1-mini","data":{"explanation":"The used car market refers to the buying and selling of pre-owned vehicles, which is a significant segment of the automotive industry. Many buyers prefer used cars due to lower prices compared to new vehicles.","simplifiedExplanation":"The used car market is where people buy cars that have already been owned by someone else. These cars usually cost less than brand-new ones."}},{"startTime":1500.5,"endTime":1502.6,"type":"concept","title":"lease deals","url":"/glossary/lease-deals","quote":"We get really interested in new cars, lease deals and monthly offers.","canonicalId":"concept:lease-deals","priority":0.5,"confidence":1.0,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4.1-mini","data":{"explanation":"Lease deals are agreements where a customer pays to use a new car for a set period, usually a few years, without owning it. Leasing often includes monthly payments and mileage limits.","simplifiedExplanation":"Lease deals let you use a new car for some time by paying monthly, but you don't own the car at the end."}}],"speakers":[{"id":"s1","name":"Martyn Lee","role":"host"}],"transcripts":[{"url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/bonus-company-ev-fleets-are-way-more-important-than-you-think/transcript.vtt","type":"text/vtt"}]}