{"version":"1.0.0","episode":{"title":"BONUS: EV Battery Health Testing: What's Really Happening Inside Your Pack?","url":"http://getcarcurious.com/episodes/bonus-ev-battery-health-testing-what-s-really-happening-inside-your-pack","audioUrl":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8837376.mp3?modified=1768988949&sid=5051980&source=rss","description":"\nWelcome back to EV News Daily, and welcome to a special bonus edition: an interview today with a fascinating guest.One big question is holding back EV adoption: is this battery any good? My guest today, Nathan Gore-Brown, is helping to establish the standard to answer that question.Nathan brings 30 years of experience across three continents in the automotive world.  Nathan has identified a flaw in the market. Buyers can’t verify the health of used batteries, so they’re hesitating, and that gap is stalling the market. Today he’s talking specifically about Australia and New Zealand, but we can paint those brushstrokes all around the world.In 2025 he founded his new business, Test EV. By bringing independent testing from specialists Aviloo and taking that to Australia and New Zealand, he’s securing partnerships with some of the industry's biggest players, and helping to set the rules for how EVs are valued and sold.He also serves as the Queensland director of the Australian Electric Vehicle Association and has developed national training programs for dealers. His work spans policy, training, fleet decarbonisation, and now the very infrastructure that makes EV purchases trustworthy. I think it’s fair to say Nathan is the expert in replacing guesswork with real data!Find out more: testev.coNathan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-gore-brown-1403a622?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BldzKJOGCR1mf3osZhSa%2BPA%3D%3D"},"annotations":[{"startTime":30.5,"endTime":31.5,"type":"company","title":"Aston Martin","url":"/glossary/aston-martin","quote":"...a decade of Aston Martin here in the UK, working with dealers in sales,...","canonicalId":"company:aston-martin","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"Aston Martin is a British luxury sports car manufacturer known for its high-performance vehicles and elegant design. The brand has a rich history and is often associated with James Bond films.","simplifiedExplanation":"Aston Martin is a famous car brand from the UK that makes luxury sports cars. They're known for their stylish designs and fast performance."}},{"startTime":42.96,"endTime":48.28,"type":"car","title":"Tesla Model 3","url":"/cars/tesla/model-3","image":"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Tesla_Model_3%2C_EMS_2024%2C_Essen_%28P1032260%29.jpg","quote":"...all the way through to the iconic launch of the first Model 3.","canonicalId":"car:tesla:model-3","priority":0.5,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The Tesla Model 3 is a compact electric sedan that has gained popularity for its performance, range, and affordability compared to other electric vehicles. It is part of Tesla's lineup aimed at making electric cars more accessible to the general public.","simplifiedExplanation":"The Model 3 is an electric car made by Tesla that is smaller and more affordable than some of their other models. It's popular for being efficient and having a long driving range on a single charge.","imageAttribution":"Matti Blume (CC BY-SA)"}},{"startTime":159.1,"endTime":163.7,"type":"term","title":"electric vehicles (EVs)","url":"/glossary/electric-vehicles-evs","quote":"...I've been around the EV space for nine on a decade now, it's coming up to a decade. And in that time, bought and sold, developed and engaged with fleets to take on electric vehicles...","canonicalId":"term:electric-vehicles-evs","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"Electric vehicles (EVs) are cars that are powered entirely or partially by electricity, rather than traditional gasoline or diesel. They are gaining popularity due to their environmental benefits and advancements in battery technology.","simplifiedExplanation":"Electric vehicles, or EVs, are cars that run on electricity instead of gas. They are becoming more popular because they are better for the environment and technology is improving."}},{"startTime":178.5,"endTime":183.2,"type":"term","title":"residual values","url":"/glossary/residual-values","quote":"...all of that conversation often leads to the residual values and the used market and the remarketing of electric vehicles to that public audience later on.","canonicalId":"term:residual-values","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"Residual values refer to the estimated worth of a vehicle at the end of its lease or ownership period. This value is crucial for understanding depreciation and the potential resale price of vehicles, especially in the context of electric vehicles (EVs).","simplifiedExplanation":"Residual values are how much a car is expected to be worth after you’ve used it for a while. It helps people know how much they might get if they sell or trade in the car later."}},{"startTime":198.9,"endTime":203.6,"type":"term","title":"battery testing","url":"/glossary/battery-testing","quote":"...there was a spark there about this whole battery testing space. And it led me on a journey to go around the world metaphorically, virtually, if you like, and have a look for the world's best EV battery health testing device.","canonicalId":"term:battery-testing","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"Battery testing involves assessing the health and performance of a battery, particularly in electric vehicles. This process is essential for determining how much charge a battery can hold and how effectively it can deliver power over time.","simplifiedExplanation":"Battery testing checks how well a battery is working, especially in electric cars. It helps figure out if the battery can still hold a charge and how long it will last."}},{"startTime":245.9,"endTime":249.8,"type":"term","title":"EV journey","url":"/glossary/ev-journey","quote":"...as they were exploring their EV journey, it was a really important part to understand.","canonicalId":"term:ev-journey","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The term 'EV journey' refers to the process of transitioning to electric vehicles, including considerations like purchasing, charging, and understanding the technology behind electric cars.","simplifiedExplanation":"An 'EV journey' is the experience someone goes through when they decide to buy and use an electric car. It includes learning about how to charge it and how it works."}},{"startTime":277.0,"endTime":282.0,"type":"term","title":"EV","url":"/glossary/ev","quote":"Is there a percentage of people who simply won't buy an EV?","canonicalId":"term:ev","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"EV stands for electric vehicle, which is a type of vehicle that is powered entirely or partially by electricity instead of traditional gasoline or diesel fuel. EVs are known for being more environmentally friendly and often have lower operating costs.","simplifiedExplanation":"EV means electric vehicle. These cars run on electricity instead of gas, making them better for the environment."}},{"startTime":345.3,"endTime":347.5,"type":"term","title":"battery health","url":"/glossary/battery-health","quote":"...the number one reason for that was battery health. 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It shows how much energy it can store and how well it can power the car, which affects how far you can drive before needing to recharge."}},{"startTime":358.8,"endTime":364.6,"type":"company","title":"Avalu","url":"/glossary/avalu","quote":"...you settled on the Austrian company Avalu and their tech solution, you had a look at what else is out there.","canonicalId":"company:avalu","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"Avalu is an Austrian company that specializes in technology solutions for assessing battery health in electric vehicles. Their tech helps buyers understand the condition of EV batteries, which is crucial for making informed purchasing decisions.","simplifiedExplanation":"Avalu is a company from Austria that creates technology to help check the health of electric vehicle batteries. This is important for people who want to know if a used electric car's battery is still good."}},{"startTime":372.4,"endTime":374.9,"type":"term","title":"OBD dongle","url":"/glossary/obd-dongle","quote":"Because I know I've got an OBD dongle. I plug it in, car scanner gives me a percent, job done.","canonicalId":"term:obd-dongle","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"An OBD dongle is a device that connects to a vehicle's On-Board Diagnostics (OBD) port, allowing users to read diagnostic information and trouble codes from the car's computer. This can help in diagnosing issues and monitoring vehicle performance.","simplifiedExplanation":"An OBD dongle is a small device you plug into your car to check for problems. It helps you see if there are any issues with the car's systems."}},{"startTime":374.9,"endTime":378.6,"type":"term","title":"car scanner","url":"/glossary/car-scanner","quote":"I plug it in, car scanner gives me a percent, job done. That's not quite as simple as that.","canonicalId":"term:car-scanner","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"A car scanner is a tool that reads data from a vehicle's OBD system, providing information about the car's performance, diagnostic trouble codes, and sometimes even real-time data like engine RPM or vehicle speed.","simplifiedExplanation":"A car scanner is a device that helps you find out what's wrong with your car by reading codes from its computer. It can tell you if there are any issues that need fixing."}},{"startTime":563.9,"endTime":565.9,"type":"term","title":"ICE vehicles","url":"/glossary/ice-vehicles","quote":"So we're still using the old methods that we know from ICE vehicles that we're applying them to EVs.","canonicalId":"term:ice-vehicles","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"ICE stands for internal combustion engine, which refers to traditional vehicles that run on gasoline or diesel. The valuation methods for ICE vehicles differ from those used for electric vehicles, particularly concerning factors like engine condition and mileage.","simplifiedExplanation":"ICE vehicles are cars that use gas or diesel to run. 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It can save you money if something goes wrong later on."}},{"startTime":2218.2,"endTime":2220.6,"type":"term","title":"used car dealer","url":"/glossary/used-car-dealer","quote":"you have to provide as a sales, you know, as a use car dealer, you have to provide a warranty. It's legislative.","canonicalId":"term:used-car-dealer","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.85,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"A used car dealer is a business that sells pre-owned vehicles. They often provide services such as trade-ins, financing options, and warranties to facilitate the sale of used cars to consumers.","simplifiedExplanation":"A used car dealer is a place where you can buy cars that have been owned by someone else before. They help people find and buy these cars, often offering deals and financing."}},{"startTime":2265.8,"endTime":2268.3,"type":"term","title":"battery warranty","url":"/glossary/battery-warranty","quote":"...which is when most battery warranties are covered to in most electric vehicles. You know, if you're getting close to that...","canonicalId":"term:battery-warranty","priority":0.9,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"A battery warranty is a guarantee provided by manufacturers for the battery in electric vehicles, covering defects and performance issues for a specified period or mileage. Typically, these warranties last for a certain number of years or miles, ensuring that the battery will function properly during that time.","simplifiedExplanation":"A battery warranty is like a promise from the car maker that the battery will work well for a certain number of years or miles. If it doesn't, they will fix or replace it for you."}},{"startTime":2275.2,"endTime":2276.6,"type":"term","title":"warranty claim","url":"/glossary/warranty-claim","quote":"and do you have a warranty claim before the warranty times out? Interesting.","canonicalId":"term:warranty-claim","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"A warranty claim is a request made by a vehicle owner to the manufacturer or dealer for repairs or replacements covered under the vehicle's warranty. This typically occurs when a part fails or a defect is discovered within the warranty period.","simplifiedExplanation":"A warranty claim is when you ask the car company to fix something on your car for free because it's still under warranty. It's like a guarantee that they will take care of certain problems for a set time."}},{"startTime":2290.4,"endTime":2294.6,"type":"term","title":"used market","url":"/glossary/used-market","quote":"Actually, all of the action is in the used market. Second, third, fourth hand cars.","canonicalId":"term:used-market","priority":0.5,"confidence":0.9,"source":"hybrid-fuzzy+gpt-4o-mini","data":{"explanation":"The used market refers to the segment of the automotive market where pre-owned vehicles are bought and sold. This market often sees a wide variety of vehicles at different price points and conditions, appealing to budget-conscious consumers.","simplifiedExplanation":"The used market is where people buy and sell cars that have been owned by someone else before. 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