The Porsche 911 is a famous sports car that many people recognize. It's known for its unique shape and fast performance, making it a favorite among car enthusiasts.
The Porsche 930 Turbo LE is a special version of the 911 that has a turbocharged engine, making it faster and more powerful than regular models. It's a collector's item because of its limited production.
Recommissioning work means getting a car ready to drive again after it has been sitting unused for a while. This often involves checking and fixing things to make sure it's safe and works well.
The Mercedes-Benz 280 SE 3.5 is a stylish car from 1970 that has a strong V8 engine. It's known for being comfortable and luxurious, making it a popular classic car.
Air conditioning is what keeps the inside of the car cool and comfortable. If it's factory-installed, it means it was put in by the manufacturer, which is usually better than if someone added it later.
A California car is a car that has mostly been in California. Because of the dry weather there, these cars usually don't have as much rust as cars from places with a lot of rain or snow.
A floor mounted automatic is the gear shifter that you find on the floor of the car, which you use to change gears automatically. It's usually easier to reach and feels more sporty than one on the steering wheel.
The SL65 AMG is a luxury sports car from Mercedes-Benz that has a very powerful V12 engine. It's known for being fast and stylish, making it a great choice for cruising.
Martini colors are the famous blue and red stripes that some race cars have, making them look very stylish and recognizable.
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Porsche 930 Turbo
The Porsche 930 Turbo is a fast sports car that was made in the 1980s. It has a turbocharged engine, which means it gets extra power from a device that forces more air into the engine.
A fuel injection system helps engines get the right amount of fuel to run smoothly. It's more efficient than older systems and helps the car perform better.
The BMW M5 is a fast and sporty version of a regular BMW sedan. The E39 is the specific generation of this model that was made in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
The Alpina Z8 is a special version of a BMW sports car that is designed to be even faster and more luxurious. It has a powerful engine and looks really cool, making it a favorite among car collectors. People talk about it because it’s not just a car; it’s a unique experience to drive.
Investment grade means that the car is in excellent condition and has low mileage, which makes it a good choice for someone looking to buy and sell it later for a profit.
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Volkswagen Camper Split Screen
The Volkswagen Camper Split Screen is a vintage van with a unique front design that has two separate windows. It's often used for camping and is loved by many for its retro style.
The Volkswagen Type 2 is a classic van that people often use for camping. The '21 windows' version is a special model that has a lot of windows, making it very popular among collectors.
Kick cars are replicas of classic cars that try to look and feel like the originals. Some people think they aren't as valuable until they are made really well, and then they are called evocations.
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Superformance GT40
The Superformance GT40 is a replica of a classic race car called the Ford GT40. It's built to look and perform like the original, and Superformance is a company that makes these replicas very well.
Golf colours are a specific blue and orange color combination that is popular in racing, especially because of its connection to a famous oil company and their sponsorship of race cars.
The Jaguar Mark I is an old luxury car that was made in the 1950s and is known for being very stylish and comfortable. It helped make Jaguar a famous car brand because of its good looks and smooth ride. People like to talk about it because it’s a piece of history and has influenced many other cars since then.
Superformance is a company that makes replica cars, which means they build new cars that look like famous classic cars. If you want a specific version, you can order it from them, but it may take a long time to get.
Modern classics are older cars that people still find cool or interesting today. They are usually from the 1980s to early 2000s and are loved by car fans.
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Austin Healey
Austin Healey is a brand of sports cars from the UK that were popular in the mid-20th century. They are known for being fun to drive and have a classic look that many people love.
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It's a price tag in British money, showing how much the car costs.
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This is The Tire Kickers, classic car chat with Max and Matt. Well, welcome to a special bonus episode of The Tire Kickers, and this time we're out in location in North London, and we've come to some way, Max, that's pretty unique, isn't it? It is, it's really nice because it's got, I can see at least four 911s, five 911s in front of me, so I'm just lost in these, to be honest, particularly this 930 Turbo LE, which is sitting in front of me.
Okay, so basically we're in a classic car showroom, and Max typically has just got specky about the car straight away, but let me set the scene for you a little bit more, not only is what we surrounded by some absolutely jaw-dropping classic cars, but we're in an interesting concept, we're next to a sourdough pizza place, 67 sourdough is the pizza place, and this is hexagon classics, and the two are together, so you can sit at the table, eat great pizza, and look at absolutely beautiful cars. The only way I can describe it,
is a bit like being in an art museum, isn't it? Well, we've just had a pizza, staring at an e-type, a series one e-type, which is just possibly the best for you you can get, isn't it? It's fantastic. Yeah, you were getting all specky about it, and the status about it, so show up at your pizza.
But we've got Jeremy with us from hexagon classics, Jeremy, thank you for letting us come here. What's the idea behind the pizzas and the cars together?
Well, it's boring if nobody turns up to sit around and enjoy the cars, so if you have a pizza restaurant, it's affordable, and you can get a ton of visitors who make it a lot more interesting.
Why should we have a boring showroom when we could have loads of people and kids, and we can get young people interested in the classics, and you can have more fun.
It's interesting that hospitality and classic cars are coming together a bit more, I'm thinking of like caffeine and machine.
Think of it from the perspective of the guys that sell in the cars. They want fun, they want people to turn up with hot cars.
We did the most incredible portion pizza night, the other night, the second one we've done, over 50 cars turned up. Nobody needs a classic car.
They're partying in some cases, I don't know, the Elton John Daytona there is £475,000. It's not something you need, so you've got to make it a fun experience for people to part with lots of money.
You mentioned the cars, we need to describe them for the people listening to this. Just rattle off without going into too much detail just yet, just tell us what we can see.
In front of us right here, there's a 930 LE, the best one we've ever seen. They only produce 61 of them, and they are staggering, but if you've got it white with the Martini Stripes, it's doubly staggering.
Behind you there is a Horizon Blue 230 SE Mercedes, if you were a film star or rock star in the early 70s, that was your ride.
Red Daytona there that Elton John bought in the early 70s as soon as you got successful. Right there, we've got an 89 speedster with just 88,500 miles on it with the linen interior.
And then what, DB6 here?
Alston Martin, DB6 there.
What's unique about this E-type?
The fact that it's done just over 10,000 miles.
I drove that back from London Concours in the summer, and that's how I imagine it drove in 1965.
So what's the story with that pen? How come it's only done 10,000 miles?
It's sat in New Zealand in the collection for I think about 26 years.
So if you had to do a lot of recommissioning work, what kind of...
We haven't done anything to it.
Pull our chairman often over the years as fancy as cards.
I mean he had an F1 team in the 70s, he's had everything, he had a 250 California spider.
One day he was in the mood, I want the best, most original E-type coupe there is, sent the boys out, and they came back with it.
So this is a lovely, lovely light blue series one.
Exactly, two is one. Is it an early one with a flat floor?
Correct.
Does that still smell like an original E-type?
Yes.
One hundred percent.
Is the door open?
You can't because it's locked.
Well we've got to try and keep it in.
He doesn't want you anywhere near it.
No, it's not that. It's the young kids with pizza all around.
I was going to ask you about that.
I was going to ask you about that.
I mean the pizza and the classic beautiful classic cards here, but they're all sort of six digit classic cards here.
Is that a bit of a problem with the pizza fingers at all?
You've got to trust kids, and people...
You're pretty much, if you're coming here for pizza, you're a car enthusiast.
You're going to care.
Most parents are really cool.
And we want to educate young people.
When are they going to see these things?
We've got to be the good guys, and we've got to introduce young people to the things.
And so you've got to take some risks.
Well let's get into the cards.
Let's pick one.
Let's go and look at this beautiful...
I'd call it baby blue Mercedes.
Let's go and have a look at it.
So this is a 1970 Mercedes Benz 280 SE, 3.5 V8.
This has got 56,000 miles.
Horizon blue with a dark blue hide.
So blue on blue with a...
Blue roof or is that a black roof underneath the tunnel?
Blue roof.
What's the story with this one then?
Rockstar?
It came out of Carmel in California.
I don't know how to describe it.
It's a wider than a pagoda, longer than a pagoda.
It's that kind of...
Yeah, four-seater stack headlights.
I mean beautiful armchairs in there.
I mean, as with every four-seater convertible of this era,
you'd have to have no legs to sit in the back.
But it's beautiful.
It's a left hooker.
It's got that classic old Mercedes dashboard.
It's a real, real look.
It's quite a big car actually, isn't it?
It's also an American car size, isn't it?
Unlike the Rolls-Royce Cornish that the English built,
when you go around a corner in this, the doors don't open.
Like these cars of this era, Mercedes or not
are susceptible to rust, but one from California should be okay, I guess you don't.
And this thing is absolutely perfect.
They were built like tanks.
I noticed on this one as well, it's got the factory bear air conditioning,
which is quite rare because it's a California car.
That's exactly what you want.
The floor mounted automatic, the air conditioning, the right colorway.
That's the dream machine base.
How much are you asking for this, Jeremy?
£245,000.
Okay, so who's the market for this?
Ideally, someone who's got a fabulous pad down in South of France
and cruise down to Capfrost or whatever they're doing in the summer.
That's not you, Max.
Just talk about cruising to the South of France, because I think you've got two cars actually three.
You've got two on show here, but you've got three in stock.
In terms of cruising to the South of France, an R230 SL65 AMG with a V12.
Now these are fantastic cars.
And they were incredibly expensive when you, like over £150,000,
20 years ago, just phenomenal bulletproof cars that are quick as hell and look amazing.
You also like Max this Porsche and Martini colors with the T-Tray on the back.
£235,000. Why is this caught your eye?
Well, this is the LE, so this is the rollout of the 930 turbos.
I thought this was 1990, it's the 1989, it's the G-Rage, isn't it?
So it's got the Martini stripes down, it's got the turbo arches, the turbo wing.
It's the ultimate 930 turbo.
And these are really quite valuable cars these days, and these LE's.
I think they make 50 of them, Jeremy.
I can't remember how many they're made.
But depending on what book you read, 50, 51 or 61, we think it's 61.
How does this drive it? Tell me how it drives.
The team said it's the very best one we've ever had.
We've sold six or seven LE's over the years.
And Carlo, our chief mechanic up at the service department,
who's very hard on everything, said it's absolute perfection.
He's never said anything like that before.
Because they're quite tricky engines to get right at the 930 turbos.
Because it's quite a complicated fuel injection system to it.
You know, they're really valuable there now aren't they?
Because they're particularly with these, they're so few of them around.
And this is, because it's a late one, this is a 5-speed gearbox, isn't correct.
The G50 gearbox is the important element.
Is there a type of car that does really well for you here?
Yeah, our bread and butter is Gen 2997's.
Obviously, 993 and 964 Porsche's have got incredibly expensive.
And for mere mortals, you know, it's tough amount of money to come up with.
Can I ask a specific question on the 907?
So which one? A 907.2 GTS?
We only supply Gen 2 cars.
Not that personally, I wouldn't buy a Gen 1 car privately,
but the key build warriors go on and on about the different problems with them,
which actually is an absolute nonsense because it was a small percentage that had a problem
and they've all been fixed.
But as we, it's just so much easier to retail a Gen 2 car.
And particularly the Gen 2 manuals, GTSs?
Manual GTS, we put one on the market yesterday, a black one that we've got here.
And it two o'clock in the morning, we've got our first inquiry,
and at nine o'clock in the morning, we've got our second inquiry.
And the guy that contacted us too is coming here on Friday for it.
You're listening to the tyre kickers with Max and Max.
Well, we talked about the two SL65s.
There's also a car you could equally get to the South of France in,
which is the E39 BMW M5.
Now, these are all manuals.
They're great drivers cars, these E39s, great bank robbers getaway cars as well.
You've got two in, you obviously like them. Why do you like the M5?
Well, it was more the Chairman. He was the biggest London BMW dealer in the 80s and 90s.
He used to sell a couple of thousand BMWs a year.
One of these cars is actually his own.
And actually, we've got another car with M5 engine in it.
We've got the Z8 just around the corner, so three of the same engine.
But it is a cracking engine, isn't it?
And they're cracking cars, they do handle really well in probably the best handling M5 probably, isn't it?
Before they got too grippy and too fast.
It's a phenomenal bit of kit, and if you can find one,
or if you've got one with low mileage, can you please call Jeremy Thinberg now?
Because there's lots of them around with high mileage,
and then lots of tide ones around.
And I think the engines on these, they're quite complicated to fix, aren't they?
But actually, a really good one. Is it a great thing to hold onto?
Tons and tons of tide ones, but we need investment grade.
That means great quality low mileage,
and you can sell them all day long if you find them.
Okay, so another couple to just squeeze in.
Let's walk down, continue walking down the showroom.
Sorry about the noisy fan in the background.
But we've got a really, really nice VW camper split screen.
Yeah, December 21 window.
Some perhaps unwise person decided that they should spend 140,000 euros restoring it.
So one very wise person is going to end up buying it at 95,000 pounds.
And feel rather clever.
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it? I mean, I'm not a massive fan of these campers,
but when they look as good as this, it's like driving a piece of design, isn't it?
I'm sure your parents, when they went to Woodstock, would have loved to have gone in it.
I think they went to Woodstock.
I think they're the split window, the 21 windows.
That's actually the peak spec of these, isn't it? You can't get any better in the market.
Yeah, that's what all the American collectors go for.
I guess somebody's going to snap that up.
Some rock star or actor or...
Okay, so let's pack a couple more in because we've got a GT40 to get to.
I'm not a massive, I'll confess, I'm not a massive Porsche fan.
What's up with you?
I don't know. We've never been able to cure him.
He had a 61 that kept breaking down.
But this particular one, this is a 60's, a Targa 911.
It's beautiful.
It's very cool. The guy got a bit individual on the interior and put some Alcantara in there.
But outside, it's absolutely standard.
So, what year is this? Let's have a look at this.
It is a 911 2.4 S Targa, left hand drive, 1973.
And it's on at an asking price of 164 9.5, 165,000.
It's got blue tartan seats and it's had left hookers, as we said.
But really nice. We've got the Targa top, so it's half of the car is open air
and then it's got the big wrap around back window.
But there's another 911. This is a flat nose.
This is a turbo, is it?
That's very special. That's the Rin speed.
So, another situation where, if you were a drug lord in 1980,
you would have gone Switzerland, speed to Rin speed,
and had your regular four-speed 9.30 turbo turned into that.
Which, some say, looks like a three-way between a 9.44, a turbo and a test russer.
But interestingly, that's a right hand drive on.
I can't remember seeing a right hand drive flat nose.
That's the only right hand drive Rin speed R69 that we've seen also.
Wow. Okay. So, we're right down the end of the show.
It's up to where I'm at corner. Is that a Z8?
That is indeed a one-owner Silver Z8, which is absolutely perfect.
It's got all the bits including the phone.
And, yeah, that's a bit special.
Wow. So, okay, we're looking back along the showroom now.
We can see all these beautiful cars.
Have a look at their Instagram account.
Have a look at the Instagram account for 67 Sourdough.
You'll see all these cars in here at Hexken Classics.
We'll go on to their website and have a look at some of the stuff in here.
It's absolutely beautiful.
We've got one more car to talk about though before we've done Germany.
It's over on the other side on the pizza side of things.
And that's a GT40, so let's go over there.
You can get in touch with Max and Matt via our socials.
We're at the tyre kicker's UK on Instagram.
And the tyre kicker's on Facebook.
So, we've come the other side of the showroom now.
Do you know what we're doing?
We've been doing some stuff on the podcast about kick cars.
And whether, you know, kick cars generally in a classic car world get derided
until they get to this level, which is what gets called an evocation.
Which is essentially, and we're looking at a GT40 replica.
But this is a high-end, I mean, all these cars are replicas.
What's so special about this one?
This has not been here that long, is it?
No, we got this, at the beginning of the week,
went up to Glasgow to get it, because we've always liked Superformance GT40s.
They are brilliantly built.
They go like hell.
We've had it in their 24 hours, and we've already had two inquiries about it.
Are there not that many of these on the market then already?
There's a handful, but whatever on once, of course,
is the best coloured one with a seven-liter engine.
That's the most recently built.
So this is a 2022 car.
So, if you want a Superformance, obviously, you want the best one.
And this is in golf colours with the blue and the golf colours with the orange stripe.
The dark blue golf, so I believe that was for actually Daytona,
because obviously, the golf colours at Lemois, the light blue.
How close are these in terms of detail on them, and how good do they get?
The shape of that is exactly how a Mark I GT40 is.
85% of it is exactly the same as an original GT40.
The improvements are the brakes and the suspension.
But you could take that car and take it apart and make it FIA,
so you could run it in good wood.
So, what's the asking price on this?
Let's have a look.
185,000.
Yeah.
I guess with one of these people will search and they will buy the right one, will they?
Yeah, well, the thing is, if you were to ring up Superformance and order exactly this spec,
now they're going to ask you for 280,000 pounds,
and it's not going to be with you for two years if you're lucky.
So, it's a bit of a no-brainer to get a turnkey solution at 185 grand.
That's ready here, registered in the UK, and off you go.
So, you've got your finger on the pulse of the market.
Where do you see the market going in the next five to ten years?
We're always hearing that nobody wants classic cars anymore.
I mean, modern classics are the ones that are getting the interest.
Where do you feel the market's going?
80s, 90s and naughties will kick us.
But actually, you know, even the 50s mass produced stuff, you know, Austin Healy's, etc,
which has gone down in price.
There also comes a point, though, where, you know, old fools like me will think,
well, hang on, 20 grand, probably have to have one.
These cars are still icons, aren't they?
E-types are getting cheaper and cheaper, but at the end of the day,
you can't get a more beautiful car than an E-type.
The thing is, you know, E-types were mass produced.
They should never be in the crate, you know, they made over 72,000 of them.
Apart from the first 50 right-hand drive convertibles,
where this is the picture outside, the Coventry Factory,
and of course, Annaracks will pay any amount of money for those.
The rest, there's tons of them.
But you're absolutely right, Max.
It's stunningly beautiful, so there comes a point where they drop in price.
People want them.
I mean, we've had the cycle before.
You've got to, you know, they were cheap up to about 85, 1985, that is.
Then they got really expensive.
Then they collapsed in the early 90s, and it's all wound itself up again.
And it will keep doing that, because they are stunningly beautiful.
But it's more infused, yes, that want cars now.
It's not the same speculation as in the 80s.
You know, I get tons of people that buy modern supercars
and they're bored of them within about 20 minutes.
There's no emotional connection, they're no fun.
And they come back to these things.
I can't tell you that a number of people I've had that have got rid of there,
992 Turbo S, and asked me for a 997 GTS manual.
It's just older cars, just more fun.
But more sold, don't they?
You can't use a thousand brake horsepower on the road.
It's an nonsense.
So everyone's going to go back to the old stuff.
So some fascinating stuff.
Thank you ever so much for giving us a tour around.
We'll put all your details on the bottom of under this podcast
and on our Instagram as well.
But yeah, we'll go and have a look around.
But thank you very much.
No problem.
Enjoy.
What Jeremy there from Hexican Classics Year go and look them up on Instagram
and also 67 sourdough, which is the pizza place.
We had the pizzas max.
They were great.
The pizzas were great.
And also, the good thing about this place, and I can thoroughly recommend it,
is you can have your food, then you can just wander amongst the cars.
Okay, they're locked because of for obvious reasons.
They're locked because lots of them are worth like £250,000, £300,000.
But you get fantastic access to look at the cars after you've eaten.
It's like a perfect, perfect way to spend your lunch or dinner.
Yeah, it's like a private viewing after you've had the great pizzas.
And we never talked about on John's Ferrari in much more detail.
The red Ferrari £475,000.
That's a nice looking car, isn't it?
It is.
The Daytona is a lovely looking car.
And there's not that many around.
And there's certainly not that many around in right-hand drive.
Okay, well put some pictures up on Instagram.
But you've got to pick one car max out of this.
So just think about for me, it is this 1970s Mercedes 4-seater convertible
that came in from California in this baby blue color.
Absolutely beautiful.
I would take that home.
245,000.
I'm getting my car.
Oh, 245,000.
I thought it was 2,450.
£45,000.
Right, out of all these cars here, there's like 20, 25 cars.
What are you going to pick?
I would have to pick this Porsche 930 Turbo LE.
It's the last of the line of the 930 Turbo.
It's probably the greatest Porsche Turbo ever.
Right-hand drive.
There's only about between 1560 of them made.
It's in white with martini stripes.
It doesn't get any better.
Well, let's go and have a look at the rest of them now.
Fantastic.
Great pizza, great cars.
Do check out Hexkin Classics and 67.
That's it for this special bonus episode of the tie kickers.
We'll be back with another one very soon.
It's by from me.
And it's by from me.
Bye.
About this episode
A unique blend of classic cars and gourmet pizza takes center stage in this bonus episode recorded at Hexagon Classics in North London. Hosts Max and Matt explore stunning vehicles like the 930 Turbo LE and a rare E-type while enjoying delicious sourdough pizza. Jeremy from Hexagon discusses the innovative concept of combining hospitality with classic car sales to attract enthusiasts and educate younger generations. The episode highlights various iconic cars, their histories, and the evolving classic car market, making it a delightful listen for automotive aficionados.
We're back with a bonus episode! Last time, we dropped into 67sourdough, the unique pizza/classics restaurant in London. Now we're back with a full walkaround of the jaw-dropping cars on display. So if you like concours stuff, you're in for a real treat, as we talk pristine Jags, Astons, Ferraris, Mercs and Porsches.
Thanks to Elena, Cam and Jeremy for their help in putting this episode together.
Find our more about the pizzas and the cars on their Instagram feeds: @67sourdough and @hexagon_classics
