The Jeep Grand Cherokee is a larger SUV made for everyday driving, with extra capability for rough roads. If someone is removing the front wheels, it usually means they’re working on parts like the brakes or suspension so the car drives safely. That’s why it might be discussed during a repair or problem-solving session.
Seized bolts are bolts that have gotten stuck—usually from rust or corrosion. When they won’t turn, the brake job takes longer because the mechanic has to work around that stuck hardware.
Term
R&I
“R&I” is shop shorthand for “take it off and put it back on.” They’re saying the labor for removing parts may be billed separately from the actual brake work.
This phrase lists the core brake components typically replaced or serviced during a brake job: brake pads, brake rotors, and brake calipers. Pads provide the friction surface, rotors are the spinning disc they clamp onto, and calipers apply clamping force.
SRT’s are the shop’s “expected time” for a repair. If the car has extra problems—like stuck parts—the mechanic may need more time than the standard estimate.
Broken bolts are bolts that snap when someone tries to remove them. With brake work, that can happen when bolts are rusted, and it makes the repair take longer.
Brake calipers are the parts that press the brake pads onto the brake disc to slow the car down. A proper service often involves removing them so the mechanic can check that everything is in good shape and moving correctly.
A full inspection means the mechanic checks the brakes closely by looking at the actual parts, not just peeking through the wheel. The host’s point is that you can’t really know what’s going on unless you take things apart.
Brake pads are the replaceable parts that create the friction to stop the car. The point of taking things apart is to actually check the pads instead of guessing from a quick look.
Those “pins” are small hardware pieces that help the brake caliper move smoothly. If they get stuck, the brakes can wear unevenly or not release properly.
PB Blaster is a spray that seeps into rusty or stuck bolts to help them come loose. Using it ahead of time makes it easier to remove wheel nuts without damaging them.
Wheel nuts are the bolts/nuts that hold your wheel onto the car. If they’re rusty or stuck, they can waste a lot of time—so the host pre-treats them to make removal easier.
Clean and lubricate reinstallation is the service practice of cleaning brake hardware and applying the correct lubricant before reassembling. This helps prevent sticking/seizing of sliding components and supports consistent brake operation after the job.
An overhaul means doing a full brake repair, not just fixing one small part. It usually takes more time and work, so it costs more than a simple brake job.
This is a Mercedes-Benz ML 350 SUV, and they’re talking about the diesel version. They’re using it as an example that brake work can be harder when parts haven’t been serviced in a while.
The hub and bearing are what let the wheel spin smoothly. If they’re worn or corroded, the repair can take longer—especially if everything has been sitting without service.
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it's Swiggy time yes it is I made a special one this morning but I don't
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problem it should it should taste a little better than that let's jump right
into our morning weather things are gonna change apparently the digits are
changing we're dropping down so we're gonna feel like you need to wear snow
pants I like to wear shorts all summer when it's funny at the beginning of
summer I feel icky wearing shorts and then after a short period of time it's
like I feel no I don't want anything on my legs it gets it gets weird I can't
stand not having shorts on that so then come fall time it takes me a while to
transition into pants so anyways I thought I'd share that I'm the only one
that's weird like that okay today 70 degrees now and cloudy wind is making it
feel cooler about 67 degrees windy conditions from 7 a.m. to 1 p.m. with
thunderstorms here we go thunderstorms expected at 1 p.m. here in the Niagara
region south shores of Lake Erie today's temperature range will be 67 I'm liking
this because I've been cooking in the shop 67 to 78 degrees feels more like
64 to 73 that's kind of where this guy likes to hover I like to be in the mid
70s and all fountains have chocolate and nice beautiful tasty strawberries and
you can eat a double bacon double cheeseburger and a diet coke and you
never gain any weight that's my ultimate island yeah let me know what you think
warm chocolate fountains with buckets of fruit to dip in there alright temperature
I don't know why I said that for somebody this morning 78 degrees is gonna be our
top score today and yesterday we hit a bombing 77 so no smoke alert today please
continue to keep those on the boots on the ground in the forest where the fires
are and the pilots of the aircraft actually we had a water bomber I think
he made a left-hand turn the old curkey I don't know what he's doing way down here
but he was really low on the lake on Sunday morning and I heard it coming
because they have a distinct sound and being mechanic I listen for stuff all
the time and I heard it coming and I couldn't see it and then there it was
it was probably 300 maybe 400 feet off the ground those things are huge their
behemoths so keep it and your thoughts and prayers all those that are boots on
the ground trying to deal with these forest fires the best they can with what
they have and hopefully this is a lesson learned for our government is that you
know what you need to as a service tech I would say to him you know what imagine
you bringing me your car but I don't have a toolbox I don't have any tools but
I'm gonna fix it how well is that gonna turn out really you know as judge Judy
would say beauty fades but dumb is forever you know you cannot have services
and you don't have equipment come on I mean really folks think about that
really and you got to do maintenance the forests need clearing they need
maintenance and if you're not doing it guess what happens all that dry fodder
here we go is it it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who follows the
blundering me come on you got to have you got the guys have to have the tools to
get the job done and prevent it from happening in the first place and when
you stand there going how did this happen take a good look in the mirror
yeah go to the bathroom look in the mirror and figure it out that's what my
boss would say and figure it out yeah don't get me going on that it's like you
know what tools and equipment you got to have another example you know back in
the day this has been a rabbit hole I'll catch up in a minute back in the day all
the NHL hockey players they were responsible for keeping all the
uniforms clean packing their bag getting on a bus on a train you know in a box
with a fox to get to the arena or they didn't if they didn't play they didn't
get paid now imagine that today so an imagine they go through all that
responsibility of getting to the arena and they don't have us have skates they
don't have a stick oh can I borrow a jersey I don't I left mine at home you
got to have the tools to do the job so that's how hockey was I had a chance to
to sit with an old NHL and he said we had to find our way to the next game nobody
washed our uniforms held our hands or said boo we had to make sure all our
gear was ready our own skates were sharpened and ready to work and that we
had enough sticks if we could afford it because sticks were expensive he said and
then we had to get our own how are we getting there bus train taking a flight
whatever he said whatever you had money in your pocket to get you to the next
gig imagine that today and those fellas didn't make the money they made today
and those guys played snake and hockey let me tell you I believe that all right
let's jump into I don't know I was talking about that but you know it's not
quite fun Friday but we're almost there if you or someone you know needs clarity
with regards to financing and I know I harp on this a bit but you know what I
don't want to see you quit on yourself because when you do that people will take
advantage of you and that happened to me in the past not twice but thrice three
times and it's been a hard thing to it's a hard thing to come back from so you
want to make sure if you're drowning in debt and finances in the home are not
going well let's get you with Tony Mealy or Larry teacher oh they're not going to
sell you anything put your money away and book that hour in a coffee meeting to
get clarity to your questions so don't give up on yourself okay don't do it
get that hour in a coffee discovery meeting and sit down and get your
questions answered by those who have the credentials and letters before their
name CFP they're not advisors advisors are financiers in training if they want
to be a CFP they're gonna have to be really really good because the exam is
not a cakewalk I can tell you that because these guys have been my brothers
from other mothers for well over 20 years so certified financial planner or
don't sit with them that's what I'm telling you that's the best advice I can
give you if you have investments in the bank get them out of there let Tony or
Larry review them and then you'll be surprised at just how much money you
really can make with your money so while you're sleeping and you wake up the
next day your bank account has more money in it that's how it should work but
that ain't never gonna happen for you at the bank and I can say that so
portfolios debt estate planning you need to have that friends if you're 20 years
old you have a kid or two kids or living on your own you need estate planning if
you have a checkbook and bank account mortgages get range for you with
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and critical illness insurance is something you should definitely take a
look into having it because insurance seems like an expense till we all need
it it's a wise investment and thank you to Kathy David and Dan Grimo the next
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design start and finish the job so that you can enjoy it let's jump into our
topic this morning it is part number two episode 2 2 2 I have five things yes I
do I have five things for you this morning and we're gonna go through them
fairly quickly so get that crayon warmed up you ready okay let's go number one
we're talking about breaks yesterday and just a very quick recap for those who
may have missed it we talked about do once do nothing till next time number two
pads no cheapies no pad slaps number three quality rotors no cheap offshore
junk because you'll you'll regret it and number four although there are some
offshore suppliers that are really good but you really got to know your parts
before you can dive there number four replacing calipers why and number five
clean and lube all the hardware and first and foremost you got to be able to
get the wheels off to get in there and do it so if you haven't had the wheels off
on your vehicle this is something that I'm really starting to pay attention to
because it's getting annoying is the amount of time to get the wheels off to
get the job done and as I mentioned yesterday three and a half hours
wrestling two wheels off the front of a Jeep Grand Chicopee and now I can get
started and then everything else is seized so it makes the job long hard and
expensive for you because that's all additional labor that's not included in
the break job no that's not all capped under one number no R&I break
pads rotors and calipers is a separate service repair time folks SRT's service
repair times dealing with seas bolts broken bolts and can't get the wheels
off thing is additional time and it's straight time there's no SRT on that
wheels stuck how much time does that pay well you'll be able to measure that by
the time you mark down what time you started and what time you got the wheels
off then you'll know and then you pay for it so just saying when the wheels
aren't coming off and there are things and the guys aren't in the shop where
you are aren't lubricating stuff you got to get out of there because they're not
helping you they're costing you a stinking fortune in labor that's what
I'm saying a stinking fortune and additional labor they're not doing
their job and I'll tell you three out of three break services so far and I have
one coming in today I got to finish the opposite side because we used this
vehicle to record some videos and we did everything on the passenger side now I
got to mock that up on the driver side again everything seized there's no
maintenance being done it's crazy so anyways let's jump into it quickly five
things number one the cost of no servicing that's where I was going that
was my that was my segue into number one the cost to you of no servicing so
if you were to do your break job today you go yeah thank you you know a great
job really appreciate guys and it's three years down the road before you come
back in to have your brakes looked at that's gonna cost you huge so I think I
say I'm not sure whether I shared the pricing with you yesterday yeah maybe I
did maybe I didn't okay so so this in total this break job that I did let me
get to my calculator because my brain is not caffeinated yet so it took me eight
almost eight and three-quarters so eight point 75 hours to get to a two
and a half three-hour break job it should have been Bing Bang boom out the
door all done Titan right see you later bye eight and three-quarter hours and I
got to say the at what I found on the average door rate is now 135 times 135
you ready for it I would have cost you $1,181.25 before tax labor in
environment of poopy that gets added all on there now here's what it should have
cost should have been about 35 hours times 135 you ready $472.50
taxes environmental fees and all that poopy that goes on there to make the
bottom right-hand corner even voice half the price you see where I'm going with
this so that's why I'm saying you know if you want my help I can help you
sometimes I can be a little bit strong but you know what that's how you're
gonna learn that's how you're gonna learn this I had really good instructors
and they drilled us on this stuff and they would inspect every piece of work
that we did to make sure that we're doing it right and if we had done
something wrong they'd go I want you to look at this and I'll be back in 10
minutes and you tell me what you've done wrong they didn't tell us we had to tell
them so we had to use our brain to search everything we've done to figure
out what is done incorrectly so the cost of no servicing I just showed you
that the cost of battling the wheels to come off because nobody's put any lube
on there they probably didn't even torque the wheels let alone and they just
hammer the wheel nuts on there because they want to get to the next job so
that's why it's so important to be in a shop where they actually give a care
because some guys it's just bang bang boom get it out get to the next one get
paid and if they're on flat rate don't don't even go to a shop that's flat rate
I'm telling you that's a be the worst maintained vehicle on the face of the
planet will be yours yeah and I if they take that as disrespect they should
because that whole system needs to be revamped it's needed to be revamped since
I wrote my license in 1980 it never worked in a flat rate shop because they
get paid commission the guys don't they they develop a really bad attitude
because they're not getting paid what they should and that's the boss's problem
but you the customer end up you're the end problem it all comes on to you so
stay away from any shop that is on flat rate because it's not going to work out
for you and your wallet and I don't care how much hate mail I'll get because I'll
take your lunch money and your milk money talking about it because it's
disgusting what's going on there's 222 problems there they're not being
paid what they're worth and so they just you know the work gets sloppy because
they got to do it fast and in ugly to get it out to actually make a buck so
that you're right in the middle of that so just stay away from it number two
wheels off when was the last time and there's a question for you put it in the
comments on YouTube or comments on the podcast or email and don't forget to
email your questions by noon on Friday if you got a car question get it in there
all the information to connect with me is on the homepage of website and in the
descriptions on YouTube and on the podcast thingies oh my muffins are done
I believe so yeah they're in the oven gonna be a few minutes here muffins just
hang in there all right calipers off wheels off when was the last time the
wheels were off that's your question I would like to know okay wheels off and
if they haven't been off in quite a while your your tech could also have a
problem taking them off if he's not the one who did it before and isn't thorough
with this with the services number three here's what we do wheels off all four
wheels we take off the brake calipers so we can do number four a full inspection
no peekaboo's no I think it looks okay because my boss would say did you pull
the calipers off did you have a look at the inside pads did you have a look at
the pins make sure that nothing seized or stuck well no then how do you know
that's what he'd look at you go so how can you say everything looks good and
it's working good when you haven't taken anything apart to evaluate it ding ding
ding you got to take it apart to do a proper evaluation no looking through the
rims and the guys are doing this because they're in a hurry oh yeah did you
look at my brakes yeah I look through yeah yep yep they look good yep mm-hmm
they're still there there's no evaluation on that it's wheels off calipers off all
the way around full inspection of all components I'm taking it apart for you
that's what I'm doing I'm taking it apart and on this 2015 chickapee when I
got to the the back because I got smarter on the fronts I sprayed PB blaster on
all the wheel nuts I had it well ahead of time that took me Saturday morning
after doing the podcast just a little over two hours both sides pull them all
up pull the wheels off pull all the calipers off pull all the brake pads out
checked everything cleaned little bit relubricated put it all back together two
and a bit that's it that's money in your pocket folks money in your pocket so
number four is full inspection number five clean and lubricate reinstallation
rear service as I just mentioned about two hours maybe two and a half hours maybe
even less it could even be less and I would allow my customers at my own shop
if I could did it in less time I charge you the less time because the greatest
thing is that you brought it in for me to have a look and service it and get you
back out there on the road and make sure that everything is lubed tight and
right so the cost of serving servicing your brakes outweighs the parts and
labor when you have to have a complete brake system overhaul that's a point to
ponder folks I just gave you a very good tight and right example to be under
500 bucks before tax and environmental poop fees and or you can let it let me
have it the hard way where I wrestle have to wrestle the wheels off for a few
hours then get in the brakes and everything that holds the brakes
together is all rusted and crusted and hard to get off and I got to work at
that with heat and lubrication to get the bolts out because snapping it off is
not an option when we have a whole pile of work sitting and waiting outside
somebody's gonna get pushed to the back of the line and we don't have time for
that so it makes a mess of the schedule and somebody's gonna suffer because of
that and then it's usually two or three appointments that you're way behind on
and how do you make that up and keep it on time you can't you can't so it turns
into a big circle of nonsense so I hope you get something out of this because
it's a it's a continuous problem and I can tell you this afternoon or this
morning when I get to it and do the opposite side on this Mercedes ML 350
diesel everything's just gonna be exactly the same mirror image as the
passenger side everything was hard work to get it apart because it hasn't seen
any servicing for quite a while and I gotta do another hub and bearing happy
bearing yee haw anyways if everybody could do it then everybody be doing it
that's why I used to say stop whining because if everybody everybody could do
it they'd be doing it and we'd be looking for something else to do our
motormouth summer tech tip is number 18 rubber check hoses not just tires let's
talk about it number 18 we always talk tires but let's not forget the hoses
engine heat and old age can make them brittle or leaky squeeze gently if they
feel crunchy or super soft that's your cue a bloom a blown hose can ruin a
road trip faster than a flat tire absolutely can so that's all I got for
you for today till tomorrow happy healthy motoring my friends don't forget to
like subscribe share follow and we'll see you in the next one peace patience and
kindness always have yourself a fantastic Tuesday and we'll see you again
tomorrow morning to come alongside and join me for a motor morning motormouth
drive we'll see you then bye for now
About this episode
Brake Tutorial Part 2 zeroes in on why brake problems keep recurring and how professional service can save time and money. The hosts stress real inspection—“wheels off” and calipers off, not “no looking through the rims”—and warn against cheap pads/rotors and rushed flat-rate work. They walk through how seized wheel hardware can turn a quick job into hours of extra labor, then compare delayed costs versus doing it sooner. The episode also includes practical shop and pre-trip tips.
On Part 2 of our brake tutorial series, Nile Motormouth Jenkins continues walking. through professional brake servicing techniques, inspections, and repair tips learned from more than 45 years in the automotive industry. Learn wha to inspect, common brake problems to watch for, and practical tricks that can save time while helping you perform a safer, more reliable brake service.
Whether you're a DIYer or a professional technician, proper brake maintenance is one of the most important safety services you can perform.
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