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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 podcast with Matt and Tommy.

Driver ratings is back in your eyes and ears once again.

And Brazilian Grand Prix, the Sao Paulo Grand Prix, whatever you want to call it,

probably the most difficult one to grade with it being a sprint weekend as well.

Tommy, I have a feeling we're in for a good one, a very controversial one,

probably, and I think that everybody is going to have a great time.

I think it's that they're much more fun when we have a sprint weekend

and it's more chaotic and there's going to be some disagreements

because we all pick the same thing. It would be so boring.

It would be very boring.

Life would be incredibly dull if we all agreed and we all have our own opinions

and that is so wonderful to know and remind everyone, isn't it?

Right, let's get straight into it and begin with Gabriel Bortoletto.

Started the sprint in 14th, did not finish.

Started the main race in 18th, did not finish.

I am really sorry for what I'm about to put down on the board

for Gabriel Bortoletto, but it is a one out of ten.

Gabby, I am sorry.

I'm sure you do not watch or listen to this podcast, although, to be fair,

we thought the same about Alex Albon and then he dropped about the fact

that he may be up and tells everyone the great maybe maybe.

And like the driver briefings,

he stands up and says, here's Matt and Tommy's ratings.

But look, Gabby, he crashed out of both competitive races in the sprint.

It was a massive impact.

I want to echo once again what I've said before, what Tommy said before

that we were so happy that he walked away from that unscathed,

but it was driver error.

You know, he's gone for a move on a slippery track with DRS still open,

which of course makes the rear light and that's the reason why he lost the car.

So that is down to to Gabriel and then you go to the main race

and as much as again, we of course, you know, we want to see him do well.

A lot of people wanted to see him do well at his home race,

but that doesn't mean that we're going to give him any higher of a grade

because of what we wished he could have achieved in Brazil.

And again, DNF because he was very, very optimistic to try and go around

the outside of Lance Troll.

Yes, Lance moves slightly over to the left, but realistically,

Gabby shouldn't be going for that move anyway.

So very much a sad weekend that I'm sure he'll want to forget

and a rookie weekend as well.

Probably his biggest rookie mistake prone weekend we've seen from him.

Definitely I've gone for a one out of 10 as well and will also echo your apology

because it's so disappointing and it's so sad to give him such a poor grade

because, you know, it's his home race he wanted to deliver,

but, you know, it hasn't gone well for him at all.

The crash was his fault in the sprint.

The crash was his fault in the main race as well.

So has to be a one out of 10.

The fans, they felt a little bit sorry for Bortoletto,

gave him a three out of 10, which I think is very lenient.

Nico Holkenberg started the sprint in 10th, finished 15th,

started the main race in 10th, finished 9th.

I have gone for an eight out of 10 for Nico Holkenberg.

He's got a couple of points in the Sauber,

which it feels like the Sauber.

They went through that amazing run in the middle of the season

where they looked like a really good car and it doesn't feel like it.

Maybe more recently, but Holkenberg has done a really good job this weekend,

particularly in qualifying to get into Q3 both times.

So, yeah, an impressive weekend for Holkenberg

and a couple of points to carry on into the season.

I've also gone for an eight out of 10 for Nico, back-to-back Q3 appearances.

Of course, with SQ3 and Q3, which is an awesome job from him.

He has struggled in qualifying this year and then to score a couple of points.

He was very much in the mix, did a brilliant soft stint in the race.

He pitted for softs on lap 36 and did a one-stop strategy.

So, he made something work which not a lot of people thought was possible

and I think he's fully deserving of an eight out of 10.

The fans gave him a seven out of 10.

Alex Albon started the sprint in 12th, finished 17th,

started the main race in 12th, finished 11th.

I've gone for a five out of 10 for Alex Albon,

a reasonably anonymous weekend.

It has to be said the sprint was obviously poor.

Dropped down the order after Bortoletto's crash.

He did pick up some of Bortoletto's wing as well,

which of course was pretty unlucky on his part.

But then again in the race as well, narrowly misses out.

Of course, 11th doesn't look great on paper just missing out

and also how close that midfield pack was.

But Williams have been pretty good and it has to be said

that I expected in a race like that and a sprint weekend like that

for Alex Albon to score points, but he did not.

So, it's a five.

I've gone for a seven out of 10 for Alex Albon.

I think five is an incredibly harsh personally.

He was running in the top 10 in the sprint,

missed out obviously until that collision with Bortoletto,

which wasn't his fault and then missed out on points

by the tiniest margin when it was a very closely contested midfield.

So I feel like he deserves some credit for that

because I don't think Williams were particularly great this weekend.

Okay, interesting.

There are no points for top 10 in the sprint, but there you go.

No, but five is incredibly harsh.

It's Williams.

This isn't a salber.

The Williams is a pretty good car in my opinion,

but clearly not in Tommy's.

The fans gave Alex Albon a five out of 10.

Carlos Sainz started from the pit lane for the sprint and finished 14th,

started the main race from 15th, finished 13th.

I've gone for a five out of 10 for Carlos Sainz.

I do think this was just a pretty average performance from Sainz.

Obviously got contact at the start of the main race of Lewis Hamilton.

So it wasn't going to go well from there, but yeah,

one to forget for Carlos Sainz after he's had a much better run of form recently.

I've gone for a five out of 10 as well for Carlos.

Can't really separate Albon and him too much.

Of course, Carlos started from the pit lane in the sprint,

so it was pretty much done and dusted for him.

And then in the main race, couldn't really do much about Hamilton.

And then, of course, picked up damage, which put him on the back foot,

had a slow pit stop as well.

So it was just an absolute disaster for the pair of the Williams.

And it's not really performances we expect from a team that has been on the

resurgence this year.

The fans gave Carlos a five as well.

Isaac Hadjar started the sprint in ninth, finished the sprint in tenth,

started the main race in fifth and finished eighth.

I've gone for a seven out of 10 for Isaac Hadjar.

I think it was kind of a missed opportunity in some ways.

Of course, he started the main race from fifth.

He said he was sleeping in that first stint and clearly wasn't very happy

with his performance in that and then was very much just caught up

in the massive Liam Lawson train.

It was pretty chaotic for sure in that.

The sprint was reasonably good, of course, finishing tenth,

but there was a bit of chaos around him.

The V-Carb maybe not as good as it's weird.

It's such a strange weekend for V-Carb where you kind of thought,

oh, maybe they're not that quick.

Oh, actually, they've qualified really well for the main race.

It was just a bizarre one.

But yeah, I think seven out of 10 accurately represents a good weekend

for Hadjar, scoring some points.

But I also feel like there was more in the table

and he'd also believed that after starting fifth for the main one.

I've gone for an eight out of 10 for Hadjar.

I think he did have more on the table,

but I also think it's a very solid weekend from him.

Two great qualifying sessions, particularly in the main race.

And obviously he didn't finish ahead of Liam Lawson.

He was doing an absolutely crazy strategy,

which we'll talk about next.

But I think it's a pretty solid and decent race from weekend or all round from Hadjar.

Yep, solid weekend for Isaac,

a seven out of 10 from the fans as well for him.

Liam Lawson started the sprint in 17th, finished 16th,

started the main race in 7th, finished 7th.

I've gone for an eight out of 10 for Liam Lawson.

Obviously the sprint was poor.

You know, poor qualifying had that collision with Bearman,

which I will continue to say I think was harsh for him to get the penalty.

Not that he made any difference anyway.

He wasn't going to score a point, but in the main race, my word,

him doing that strategy was absolutely insane to go 52 laps

and keep the entire field basically all the way down to stroll in 16th.

Behind him in one enormous DRS train,

probably one of the biggest DRS trains we've ever seen.

And yeah, I think Lawson can be very happy with his drive

and some good points for V-Cub.

Okay, yeah, I was deliberating whether it'd be a seven or an eight,

but you've convinced me with the fact that he's pulled a ridiculous strategy

out the hat to score some good points.

So I'll give Liam Lawson an eight out of 10.

The reason why I was maybe thinking a seven was the sprint

was of course not particularly great

and a little bit scruffy from both himself and Oli Bearman's part.

But the main race, yeah, he's pulled off a miracle strategy there

and to hold them back is pretty mad.

He wasn't able to do that in the sprint.

I remember he lost quite a few positions,

of course, had a bit of damage, I think, as well after the contact.

But in the main race, yeah, everyone wrote off like,

oh, can Max hold off Lando and things like that?

And Lawson was holding off about eight different cars

and had the most ridiculous train behind him.

So, well done, Lawson, a very good drive from you

and the fans gave him an eight as well.

Oli Bearman started the sprint in 15th, finished 12th,

started the main race in eighth, finished sixth.

Hmm, this one is difficult,

but I am going to go for a nine out of 10 for Oli Bearman this weekend.

If it was just the Sunday race, I would say for sure

that is a 10 out of 10 drive,

but I kind of have to document a tiny bit

just due to what happened in the sprint,

squeezing Liam Lawson onto the grass, of course,

picking up a penalty point

and it's not exactly a flawless weekend.

However, his Sunday drive was brilliant

and not to take anything away from him for that

and yet the absolute beast that Oli Bearman is becoming,

I'm very excited to see.

It narrowly misses out on a 10, it's a nine from me.

Yeah, I'm going for a nine as well.

I think it's definitely a nine out of 10.

The sprint was obviously disappointing.

He picked up another penalty point as well,

which is obviously a difficult one for him.

And then the main qualifying,

I think he had a little bit more in him,

which is crazy to think about Ocon qualified

and to think he's perhaps an eighth,

but I do think there was generally even more pace in that car

and what he's managed to do this weekend.

But I don't want to end on a bad note

because my word, his race was absolutely brilliant.

He was so far clear of all the other midfielders

and boy, is he just driving so well at the moment

and understandably getting and well deserved praise as well.

Well done, Oli Bearman.

The fans gave him a nine out of 10 as well.

Esteban Ocon started the sprint in 18th, finished 11th,

started the main race from the pit lane and finished 12th.

I've gone for a six out of 10 for Esteban Ocon.

He had a very unlucky puncture just before the safety car came in,

which you never know may have gotten points

because of course he finished 12th.

He of course wasn't on Oli Bearman's pace,

particularly, you know, really struggling and qualifying again.

But he had a good race and was quite unfortunate.

So that's why I've gone for a six.

I've also gone for a six out of 10 for Esteban Ocon.

I completely echo what you were saying

that he got unlucky with the puncture.

Of course Max was able to take advantage of the fact

that the VSC was out there to get a cheaper pit stop.

But for Ocon, yeah, it didn't work out for him.

He lost 10 or so seconds he said after the race

and I mean, you just saw how close it was at the end

with all those midfielders.

So it definitely cost him points.

Still not close to Oli Bearman.

Oli Bearman was a very comfortable P6,

but Ocon should have in theory

scored some points without that bad luck.

So it's a six out of 10 for me.

The fans gave him a five.

Franco Colapinto started the sprint in 16th,

did not finish, started the main race in 16th,

finished 15th.

I'm going to lock in a four out of 10 for Franco Colapinto.

Of course, made that mistake in the sprint.

You know, you have to factor in the other drivers

also made a mistake on exactly the same lap

and Colapinto is a rookie.

But then also in the main race and just main weekend,

absolutely nowhere near Gasly.

And that's the reason why I'm giving him a four

as opposed to anything higher or an anonymous five

as we like to give because Gasly was by no means

anonymous and showing that for whatever reason,

Gasly was like, OK, I can now drive this dustbin.

Whereas Franco Colapinto was kind of almost doing

exactly what we've seen for most of this season

with the Alpine.

So I've gone for a four.

I've gone for a four as well for Franco Colapinto.

We saw, you know, what Gasly could do in that Alpine

and I do think he's overachieved in that,

but you didn't have much pace Colapinto

and of course had, you know, crashed out.

I'm not making excuses for him, but you do wonder

in a similar vein to

Portoletto, you know, I know it's not exactly his home,

Grand Prix, but he has a lot of fans there

from the neighbouring Argentina.

And I wonder if, you know, maybe a bit too

eager to impress over driving the car, perhaps.

And so, yeah, it's a poor weekend for Colapinto

after, you know, he got his contract

for next year and I think well deserved

but this weekend was not good to him.

No, it certainly was not.

The fans gave Franco a five out of 10.

Pierre Gasly started the sprint in 13th, finished 8th,

started the main race in 9th, finished 10th.

I've gone for a nine out of 10 for Pierre Gasly.

It's not like a 10 out of 10 absolute worldly drive

because I think the Alpine didn't look this weekend

even in Colapinto's hands who I know did poorly,

but it didn't look like a Mexico or something

where they were like an F2 car

and they're absolutely miles behind.

But that being said,

Gasly has delivered points, which is so hard to come by,

particularly for Alpine in both the sprint

and the race.

So he deserves a huge amount of credit for it.

So that's welcome for a nine.

I've also gone for a nine out of 10 for Pierre Gasly.

I couldn't give him a 10 as much as I think he

that there was definitely a 10 performance in him

this weekend.

Just maybe missing out on the Sunday race.

Of course, he was fighting Hajar quite a lot.

Hajar kept getting him back.

So there was an opportunity for some more points.

Had he finished maybe another eighth place in the main race,

he probably would have got a 10 out of 10 for me

because that Alpine has been utterly dire this year.

But it's great to see Pierre right up there

and nine out of 10.

Let us remind you is still a very, very, very good grade.

It's not a five out of 10.

It's a nine out of 10.

So well done to Pierre Gasly.

I hope to see more performances like that

because it's been far too long

since we've seen him fighting for the points.

The fans gave him an eight out of 10.

Lance Stroll started the sprint in seventh,

finished ninth, started the main race in 14th,

finished 16th.

I have gone for a whopping five out of 10 for Lance Stroll.

Just missed out on points,

but Alonso was chefing in the sprint.

It has to be said.

So Aston, for whatever reason,

were really good at the blocks.

Within the minute everybody opened up Park Fermet

and could change the car,

Aston Martin said,

We're not going to improve it.

I'm really sorry.

And everybody else got a lot quicker

for the Sunday section of the Brazilian Grand Prix.

And then of course just a very mediocre race.

Of course got hit by Yuki,

which sent him backwards.

I mean, he's fighting Yuki Snowder anyway,

which kind of shows you exactly

where he was sort of fighting for.

So there was nothing really to have note for Lance

even up until that point.

I have gone for a five out of 10 for Lance Stroll as well.

He's finished the sprint.

Okay.

Obviously didn't get a point.

You'd think, you know,

the be able to get a point in the sprint

based on where he started, of course,

and he lost out to Gasly on literally the final

like right near the end.

I think it was a couple of laps to go.

And he sort of mentioned that it was because

his soft tyres were gone,

but of course Gasly was on the soft tyre anyway.

So yeah, he in the main race,

of course Aston looked a lot,

lot poorer.

They could not continue that pace

at all going into the main race.

And but I can't,

I can't downgrade Stroll.

I don't think it's like a disastrous weekend

because, you know,

he's been punted by Yuki Snowder

and finished on the back

of that absolutely enormous train.

So six seconds away from a point,

but in sixteenth,

there's quite a bizarre situation.

It was six seconds away from seventh wasn't he?

Sorry, seven.

Yeah, let me say a point that was closer than that.

The fans gave Lance Stroll a five out of ten.

Fernando Alonso started the sprint in fifth,

finished sixth,

started the main race in eleventh,

finished fourteenth.

I have gone for a seven out of ten for Fernando Alonso.

I think his race, of course,

was certainly not great.

He didn't do all that.

Aston Martin looked like they struggled a lot more.

But the reason it's a seven is because

he's had a brilliant sprint race.

One of the stars of the sprint, actually.

And while the sprint doesn't, of course,

you know, depends how much you put into the sprint,

if you take it as a whole weekend,

he's scored three points for Aston Martin, which,

you know,

there's a difficult car

and they've not really scored a huge amount of points this season.

So that's why I've gone for a seven for Alonso.

I've also gone for a seven out of ten.

It was close to a six, but I've gone for a seven.

His Sunday was pretty dreadful.

Started on the hard tyres,

wasn't able to make that work.

Yeah, it's it's weird, isn't it?

How we sometimes weight driver ratings in terms of the sprint.

And I think it's when the midfield cars,

the ones that maybe you don't expect to score many points

are able to pull out something in the sprint race.

We don't tend to usually put too much focus on the sprint

unless something amazing happens.

You know, it's it's the way you see it, right?

And it's the beauty of how we we go about these these grades

is that some people will understand them.

Some people won't.

But I think that, you know, qualifying fifth for the sprint

and finishing sixth is a phenomenal drive from Fernando

and sadly for him, of course, nowhere near on the Sunday.

But you have to give a nod to that.

And it feels as though six is too harsh for the fact

that he scored three points.

So I get it, Tommy.

You're not just you can't give him one higher than than stroll.

You know, he didn't get points in the sprint and finished behind him.

Yeah.

But unless you're the fans, of course, there you go.

The fans, the fans gave Fernando Alonso as six out of ten.

Kimi Antonelli started the sprint in second, finished second,

started the main race in second, finished second.

I have gone for a ten out of ten, a very easy ten out of ten

for Kimi Antonelli this weekend.

Didn't get pole in anything.

Didn't win anything.

But my goodness gracious me, the consistency of Kimi Antonelli

this weekend was truly astonishing.

We've seen glimmers of the Antonelli that Toto Wolf sees

in the future this season.

And this was absolutely the best weekend from Kimi Antonelli.

Yes, we've had sprint poles in Miami and things like this,

but in terms of just every single session turning up,

that is what Antonelli did.

He outperformed George Russell,

which is not something we've seen all too often this year.

And it's the easiest ten I can possibly give.

Agreed.

I've gone for a ten out of ten for Kimi Antonelli as well.

Absolutely brilliant weekend from him.

His best weekend in F1 comfortably.

The fact that he managed to deliver it in a sprint on a circuit

he's not driven at before.

And you know, Lando was unstoppable this weekend and won everything.

And if you take him out of the equation,

the best of the rest in every single session was Kimi Antonelli.

You know, front row of the grid, finishing second in both the sprint

and the main race.

And I think the most impressive thing is that, you know,

he has just looked so comfortably quicker than George Russell all weekend.

And I think that's why he deserves a huge amount of credit

because, you know, it's not something he's been able to do.

There's obviously talk about, you know, the rookies

and obviously he's got an incredibly difficult teammate in George Russell

and a very highly rated teammate that I'm so impressed by Antonelli.

Long may continue and long may he continue to smash it in countries

with the food coloring in there that he loves, that makes him amazing.

I love that we keep mentioning that.

And then some people have absolutely no idea what we're talking about.

They will know it's everywhere.

I've seen it everywhere.

Now the fact that it's continued.

The fans, unsurprisingly, have gone for a 10 out of 10 for Kimi Antonelli as well.

George Russell started the sprint in fourth, finished third,

started the main race in sixth, finished fourth.

I have gone four.

I am literally about to change it on the fly

to an eight out of 10.

I think it's between a seven and an eight.

But I do think I may be more inclined to give him a seven

because it's George Russell and he's been beaten by Antonelli.

But when I look at his actual results of a third and fourth,

it's certainly not not bad at all.

You know, George, if that's a bad weekend for George,

he's doing very, very well this year, isn't he?

So yeah, a decent, decent result that I expected more from him.

But it's a good result to be third and fourth and still plenty of points.

But sadly for him, he's no longer in the title race.

He is no longer in the title race.

Was he ever in the title race mathematically now out of it?

I've gone for an eight out of 10.

I would have questioned you, Tommy.

Had you given him a seven because yes,

he was a little bit mystified as to why he was seven point six.

No, no, no, no, no, put your decimal places in the bin.

Look, yes, he was outperformed by Kimi Antonelli,

but sometimes you just have to give props to a driver.

And I think Antonelli just just locked in this weekend

and you just have to give him a 10 out of 10.

That doesn't necessarily mean George deserves a six

because he got beaten by his rookie teammate.

George finishing third and fourth, still being somewhere nearby.

It's not like he finished 30 seconds behind his teammate

in any of the of the sessions.

So yeah, it's an eight out of 10 for George.

He'll be scratching his head a little bit,

but look, we're coming up to Vegas next

where Mercedes will have, I think, be very strong once again

and he'll look to bounce back there.

The fans gave George a seven out of 10.

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Yuki Sonoda started the sprint from the pit lane,

finished 13th, started the main race in 17th,

finished 17th.

It's always fun, isn't it?

Great Yuki Sonoda.

I'm going to go for a 3 out of 10 for Yuki Sonoda.

It feels harsh and horrible every time I say it,

but he was 17th.

Plum Last had a fight with Lance Strowman lost

and punted him round.

The only reason it's not lower than the 3

because it is another disaster weekend

while his teammate is romping through the field

from the pit lane to finish on the podium

is the fact that there were no major changes

that were made on Yuki Sonoda's car

as opposed to Max's going into Sunday.

They've clearly learned something.

They've clearly figured something out.

Red Bull to help Max's car,

but Yuki was sort of stuck with the disaster

set up from the beginning of the weekend.

And yeah, I do feel very sorry for him

because he had the same set up as what happened

when they were both knocked out in Q1

for the main race.

So it's still not great.

It's still a 3 out of 10, but I bet he's just

kind of wanting the season to be over at this point.

I can't imagine Yuki's having much fun.

Probably not wanting the season to be over

because it means he's probably going to be at a Formula 1.

But I know what you mean in terms of just

it's gone so bad for him.

I've gone for a 2 out of 10 for Yuki Sonoda.

It's a tough one.

It's disappointing.

I really, really wanted him to succeed.

I was so excited that he was going to be in the Red Bull.

I wanted him to be in that seat from the start of the year.

But now I'm really wishing

he'd have just stayed in the V-Cub

and we could have seen the talent that he has,

which is a lot better than what we're seeing here.

But his pace was absolutely horrendous.

I know the car was incredibly tricky this weekend,

but qualified dead last

in the main race, of course.

And then the reason it's a 2 for me

is it's another clumsy crash where you'd almost

I know it's only going to be a 3 or a 4

when he's got no pace,

but the fact that he's made another kind of error

just kind of makes it more sort of

embarrassingly bad to have these clumsy errors.

And I'm not downgrading him for obviously like the fact

that he had to keep serving his penalty

because that was on Red Bull

that were too eager to work on his car, I believe.

That was the case.

The fans gave Yuki a 3 out of 10.

Max Verstappen started the sprint in 6th, finished 4th,

started the main race from the pit lane, finished 3rd.

I've gone for a 10 out of 10 for Max Verstappen,

but it was actually surprisingly quite difficult

to pick between a 9 and a 10

because his sprint was

okay,

you know, compared to what we've seen from Max Verstappen.

And of course his qualifying was horrendous.

You think that, you know, the Red Bull

has struggled and it's hard to compare to his teammate

because his teammate is always nowhere.

So the fact that the pace that he had,

I think it's one of those,

the reason why it's difficult was because the other sessions

weren't good,

but then he's put one of the greatest drives in ever,

which means in my personal opinion,

I can't give him any less than a 10,

even though I don't understand why people would.

Because he has just put in this unbelievable drive

that I think only Max Verstappen can do.

You know, it's only the second time in history

that someone's gone from the podium.

I'm sorry, the pit lane to the podium

and I will die on the hill forever

that he should have stayed out

and would have gotten even better result

at the very least P2.

You know, he probably wouldn't have been able

to hold Lando off,

but you have to go for it in that situation.

I know everyone has seemed to

a lot of comments I've seen on our posts

and I was chatting about it saying,

it's absolutely ridiculous.

It was never on.

You know, Liam Lawson

and saying like he's going to get a puncture

as tires going to explode.

Liam Lawson did 52 laps on the mediums

and managed to hold a train

of the entire field behind him.

So, yeah, I will die on that hill forever

that he should have stayed out

for the rest of the race

and at the very least back to P2.

Oh, that's very interesting.

Oh, this I have honestly been

thinking about what grade I'm going to give Max

for absolutely ages

because it's a sprint weekend

where three of the four sessions

he has not performed

to the level of which, yeah, and some,

you know, of course it's the car as well,

but, you know, sixth in the sprint quality

fourth in the sprint race

gets knocked out of Q1.

Yes, of course, the car was a dog,

but also he gets knocked out of Q1.

Do we give him like leniency

because he because that the red boy is rubbish?

I don't know.

I I have to give him a nine out of ten.

I absolutely do and this may well,

you know, set the comments on fire.

Nine out of ten, by the way, may I remind you once again,

it's not a four out of ten.

It's a nine.

It's a close to perfection,

but can I give him a perfect grade

when yes, he did also gain,

I would say from from the VSC not gain,

but obviously got an advantage from the VSC

when he had that penalty puncture.

And was able to go on to the medium tires

and I firmly believe that the strategy he was then on,

which yet he lost some time,

of course, with that puncture and having to pit again.

That that strategy was was perfect

to have two brand new mediums to go on the full attack.

Red Bull turned that car upside down into

the fastest car, I would say the fastest package,

at least with Max behind the wheel,

not taking anything away from him.

But I can't give him a 10

because of everything else that happened in the weekend

was by no means Max Verstappen level.

Yeah, the Q1 exit as well.

Like, how can I give him a 10?

I get it.

I totally get it from your side as well, Tommy.

And if I was to ignore the sprint

and not give as much weighting

or even ignore everything,

but the race, the race is an 11 out of 10.

It's it's the most difficult grade

I've ever had to give.

But I am going to give a nine

and I'm really sorry, Max.

I'm sure you're listening,

but I'm sure he will get over it

and just remember everyone,

the grades aren't that deep.

The fans gave him a 10.

And also as well,

let's quickly touch upon the fact of the strategy.

I will also die on the hill

that he should have stayed out.

I get it.

I get why people say like,

let's just I want to sit back for a second, Tommy,

because we're sitting forward

and we're very tense.

Let's sit back and just discuss this

because yeah, there's been a lot of comments,

hasn't there on our social media

and on social media in general

about Max's strategy.

And I absolutely understand

where people are coming from

when it comes to

ah, they went on the attack,

they went on the soft tires

and that was the best strategy

to perhaps go on the attack.

However, the reason

why I think both myself and Tommy

are on very similar opinions

on the Max strategy call

is that

it is a win or bin scenario

in my opinion.

It is you're going for the driver's championship.

What does a third or a second?

Yes, it goes down

as one of the best drives ever.

And Red Bull don't care about that.

Max does not care

about records like

who can go from the pit lane

to the highest position.

He wants to win the driver's world championship

and there was enough evidence

in my opinion to suggest

that there was at least a slim chance

of getting his elbows out

and making it difficult for Lando.

There was I think 17 or so laps to go

and he pits from the lead

with a seven second buffer.

I've seen people also say

he's been pushing the mediums

harder than Lando.

It's not just the fact

that you had a seven lap.

It was only seven laps difference

between the tires,

McLaren and better on the tires.

Yada, yada, yada.

I don't care.

I

that was the only way

he won the race

was if he stayed out

and made it difficult for Lando.

Oh, Lando was doing 13.2s

at the end of the race

in clean air.

In clean air.

Look at Lawson's situation

and everyone stuck behind him.

They were much faster.

There were people stuck

stuck behind.

And yes, Lando may have

breezed past him.

But another factor is if

Lando is catching in what

like half a second a lap

then it got to like six tenths.

Even if Lando was

a second a lap quicker

than Max when he got behind him.

We know that that is difficult

to pass this season

with even a second advantage

and Lando with the position

he was in in the championship

and the history

is had with Racing Max

to stop in.

He does not go

for anything other than a move

that is a hundred percent on.

So and people then also say

Oh, yeah, but earlier on

in the race, he flew by.

He was on fresh soft.

Fresh off.

Exactly.

Fresh soft.

So that's completely irrelevant.

And yeah, it all comes

down to the fact

that it was a 14 point swing

from him winning the race

or finishing second.

Obviously it was even worse

because he finished third.

And I don't understand

how I'm just hanging on

to tires that weren't falling off

is better than

when this year

it's so hard to pass

even into Lagos

but most of the passes

were like big tire advantage

and Max, who obviously had DRS

and was flying past

people with a new engine.

So I will

I just think they had

to risk it

because it's literally

if he wins the race

and you know

it was a long shot

but they have to try

and win the race

because then equally

you know, it goes down to

I think it'd be 29 points

with three to go.

But then it flips the other way

and even though it's only

it's only

you know, between first and third

it's massive at this stage

of the season

because it's now put in

basically all the out of it

because it's too big now isn't it?

So look, we get your

your thoughts

and we'll never know

because it never happened

but I do think it was

incredibly close

that I really do think

it would have worked better.

I think it would have been p2.

All right, let's sit forward

sit forward again.

That was a that was nice.

I enjoyed that chat.

The fans gave Max Verstappen

a 10 out of 10.

Please don't hurt me

for giving him a nine.

But that is I would

and on that look

you know

you've you've made some

some grades I've strongly disagree

agreed with that.

I think people would be

expecting me to be like, oh my God

how can you I actually

you know, I get it like

it's close between 10 and 9

based on you know

what else has happened

throughout the rest of the

the sprint weekend.

So I get it.

He gets it.

Let's see if everybody else gets it.

Let's move to Lewis Hamilton

who started the sprint in 11th

finished 7th

and started the main race in 13th

did not finish.

Oh dear.

I'm going to go for a 4 out of 10

for Lewis Hamilton.

It was a poor weekend

from Lewis didn't make it into Q3

in either qualifying session.

And you know, the biggest mistake

here was just the

just driving into the back of

Colo Pinto like

there was a complete misjudgment

from Lewis and it completely

ruined his race.

It was as if he's crashed into

a wall in my opinion

because his whole car is

is cupboards.

He's lost so much downforce

and then has to retire the car

through a fault that was his.

You know, I don't think

Colo Pinto had

any real part to play there.

It's just Lewis to be pulling

out of his slipstream earlier

to go for the move.

So yeah, not a good weekend

from Lewis and

you know, a couple of points

in the sprint, of course

and had a great sprint start.

But you know, you look at that

as a whole, you're in a Ferrari

where your teammate is

fighting for a podium and then

gets wiped out.

A 4 out of 10, I think is fair.

I've gone for a 3 out of 10,

for Lewis Hamilton.

I think it was

an awful, awful weekend

from from him.

He performed very poorly

in both, you know, qualifying

sessions, a track like Brazil

that you think he would do

so well.

Yes, he got some points

in the sprint race,

but you know, he had to fight

back from a poor qualifying

to only grab a couple of points

and then I cannot believe

the error that he made.

You know, am I watching

Lewis Hamilton,

you know, one of the greatest

of all time

racing?

It is so hard to watch

because we know

how talented he is.

And it's just, you know,

an error that you'd expect

from one of the newbies

to make.

So

it's such a,

it's such a shame because

I do think there's been

races this year where

he's not been

a million miles off

of Charles and it's not been as bad

as everyone says,

but you can understand why

the pressure is being, you know,

ramped up and questions

are being asked

when drives happen like this.

The fans gave Lewis Hamilton

a four out of ten.

Charlotte Kler

started the sprint in eighth,

finished fifth,

started the main race in third,

did not finish.

I've gone for an eight out of ten

for Charlotte Kler.

Points in the sprint, a fifth place.

And then in the main race,

of course, you know,

I think he qualified

absolutely brilliantly.

You know, way ahead of his teammate.

And then in the main race

wasn't his fault at all.

You've said this

many times in the race review

and best reactions as well that,

you know,

it is the most Charlotte Kler thing ever

that he is the one

that's come out worse

than that incident.

I've seen

hilarious, not

if you're a Charlotte Kler fan,

hilarious,

but you know,

people sharing a screenshot

where Kimmy Antonelli

and Oscar Piastri are like

pretty much banging wheels.

Charlotte's nowhere near them.

And it's like,

guess who's the one

that gets put out the race

in this situation?

He has no luck at all.

Yeah, he was

he was basically at that moment

about to sweep around the outside

and go into P2.

And so I think,

yeah,

it's another very unlucky weekend,

but I think he had

great pace

and was looking very impressive

in the race before that.

Okay.

I thought I was

being a fanboy thinking of an eight.

So I'd given a seven initially,

but now the fact you've given an eight

means that I'm flying

through that door

and giving an eight as well.

Charlotte Kler,

you know,

he was on for a podium,

could have even been a P2

after that move had

he not been

removed very aggressively

from the Brazilian Grand Prix.

As we've said many times,

not his faults.

He was

he did absolutely everything

on his part

of going as wide as possible

at turn one

to allow for any shenanigans

and he still

gets wiped out.

So I think he's

fully deserving of that.

Ferrari were not

that quick this weekend

and he was still able to

to do a qualifying performance

for the main race

that was

not far away from being

on the front row again.

And you know,

he had provisional pole for

for a bit

and it was it was brilliant

to watch.

But sadly was not able

to convert into a podium

because he had no front

left tire.

The fans gave him

a seven out of ten.

Oscar Piastri

started the sprint in third

did not finish

started the main race

and fourth finished fifth.

I have gone for a five

out of ten for Oscar Piastri.

You know, a devastating

mistake in the sprint

which cost him a huge

amount of points

to his championship rival

and then in the main race

as well.

He has his part to play.

He gets a penalty.

However you sit on this,

you know, Kimmy

of course, I think

we're all in agreement

had his role as well

in that where

he squeezes Oscar.

However,

Oscar I still believe

is slightly more at fault

for what went down

and he caused that carnage.

He got a 10 second penalty

and wasn't able to recover

any higher than fifth place.

So how can I give him any

higher than a

than a five out of ten

when his teammate

has clean sweeps

the entire weekend.

So it's another

poor weekend from Oscar.

It's sad to see.

I want to see him

fighting at the front.

He's been leading

the championship for so long

and we've been so used

to giving him eights,

nines, tens,

the entire year

but it is just falling off

and his championship hopes

are going with it.

He's he's almost

a race win behind

and I don't see any way

out of it currently.

Yeah, I go on

for a five out of ten

for Oscar Piastri

could, you know,

even be worse.

The fact that

he's spun off on the sprint

on his own

is, you know,

go to that saying

but the last thing

he needed

when it looked like

he'd qualified pretty well

because obviously

that's been

something that he's struggled with recently

and then in the main race, of course,

clumsy again.

I do think it was

was harsh because

I saw it as a racing incident

but you do,

you know,

you're putting that

yourself in that situation

could have very easily,

you know, got damage

or and been out of the race again

and then it really would be,

you know, championship over

his teammates picked up

33 points and done

an absolute clean sweep

and then Oscars

just coming home with a fifth place.

It's absolutely

just not not good enough.

Is it really at all?

And I think one of the most

disappointing things

was the fact that

when he did,

you know,

get through

because of course

he was in second place at one point

and within DRS

on that

kind of restart,

you kind of thought,

okay,

Oscar,

let's see what you can do now.

This is your moment

and he just drop,

drop further and further back

and it's so disappointing

because I want to believe

that we'll see the old Oscar again

based on what we saw

at the start of the season

who is driving so well.

He was

looking like a world champion

in waiting

and I think even just

as we saw like what he

managed to do

when he was second behind Lando just

unfortunately doesn't give me

any confidence

that he's going to be able to

take this fight to Lando

and that is a real,

real shame because

we want to see it.

A huge shame.

We want to see it go down to the wire

and I firmly believe

Lando is going to win

with at least a race to go now.

So that is the way

we're going with the Championship

at the moment.

The fans gave Oscar Piastri

a 6 out of 10.

Lando Norris

started the sprint in first,

finished first,

started the main race in first,

finished first.

I've gone

for a 10

out of 10.

What?

Unbelievable.

Faultless.

I was nearly going to pretend

I was giving him a 9

because obviously, you know,

Max would have won without the

the pitting.

Now I'm joking.

Lando was unbelievable this weekend.

You know, the only era he made

all weekend was

the kind of first run in Q3.

But you know, when the pressure was on

he delivered a brilliant qualifying lap.

His starts were fantastic.

His safety car restarts were fantastic.

Something that we've criticised

a lot on driver ratings before.

And he's just

just easily like, you know,

just on the best form of his life

on his way to the World Championship

now it's unbelievable what he's doing

and just such a good time

in his career to do it.

I have unsurprisingly gone

for a 10 out of 10

as well for Lando.

What a couple of weekends

he has had Mexico

and now this

this is a champion in waiting

for sure.

He is outperforming his teammate

by not even a small margin.

Quite frankly, a country mile

at the moment when it counts.

This could easily be a moment

where both Lando and Oscar

start to get a little bit shaky

with the fact that they are fighting

for their first World Championship

and Lando

who has previously been questioned

how does he deal with pressure

at the most

utmost amount of pressure

there could possibly be

at the end of a season.

He is delivering

to a level with which

we may have never seen.

So in terms of Lando's

not in terms of Lando's

performances,

I think this is the best

he's ever driven.

And yeah,

phenomenal work from Lando

fully deserving of a 10 out of 10.

And if he keeps driving

like this, he will be world champion.

Absolutely.

The fans gave him a 10 as well.

So finally,

who is our P1?

Well, my P1 can't be Max Verstappen

because I gave him a nine,

which is going to go down really well.

I am going to give it to Lando Norris

because Lando Norris

is fully deserving

of that clean sweep

and such a huge weekend from him

to essentially all but claim

the championship

with a 23 point swing

compared to his teammate Oscar.

Yeah, it has to be Lando

being my P1.

Yeah, it has to be Lando as well.

You know, it's over the whole

weekend.

Max drove one of the best races

we've ever seen

in the main race.

Kimmy Antonelli drove the best race

of his career as well.

But Lando,

you know, yes, he's got a great car

underneath him, but he's just delivered

absolutely perfectly

under, you know,

different amounts of pressure

throughout throughout the race

throughout the weekend.

Him leading the championship.

How's it going to go?

And he was just looked

absolutely unstoppable.

So it's got to be Lando.

Congratulations to Lando Norris

who, of course, gets both of our P1s

and may well be P1 in the championship

come the end of the year.

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So there you go.

Tommy, what's your final thoughts?

Final thoughts are

roll on Vegas because

I think this one is going to be

yeah, the championship may

all well be wrapped up.

But I think Vegas could surprise with

different results and things.

So I'm really looking forward to that one.

Yeah.

Politions is going to be a busy one.

I think.

Yes, I think so.

Look forward to the Las Vegas Watch Alongs

because it'll be 4 a.m.

local time where we are.

So I'm going to have some coffee in me,

I think for that one.

So look forward to seeing you all there.

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