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Tommy. Brazil, Brazil, Brazil. You deliver once again. Every year we go maybe this year

is the year that Brazil just goes, I'm going to have just a race off. I'm going to have a race,

I'm going to have a weekend off. But no, we had a fascinating sprint race yesterday,

and we had a brilliant race today as well. Tommy, how are you feeling? Because I feel like

as much as on paper you'd go, wow, I'll take that. It feels like you've got quite complex

emotions coming into this podcast. I've got very complex emotions. It's going to be an

absolute rollercoaster, this podcast, I think. I can't wait to tell Tommy to look on the bright side

at least eight times. So of course, yep, the Brazilian Grand Prix was awesome. We're going to

talk about that today. A quick shout out to our wonderful P1 Patreons who'll be getting extra

chat at the end of this race review and every single one at this season. And of course,

ad-free listening and lots of other amazing perks. Okie dokie then. Tommy, let's just

speak about it, shall we? Let's get into your most memorable moment. I wonder what it might

wonder what it could be. Yes, of course, my most memorable moment is about Max Verstappen

going from the pit lane and having his worst qualifying of his career, starting from the pit

lane, having a puncture that's then put him down to last again, then getting all the way

through the field with kind of, you know, putting in one of the most amazing drives,

one of many amazing drives that Max has done. Getting on the podium, which I cannot believe

at the start of today, you know, I wasn't even expecting a top five never mind a podium.

And yet somehow I'm a little bit disappointed for two reasons. One, we'll get into this later,

but obviously the championship repercussions is looking very, very tricky for Max now.

But two, a certain pit stop, which I will be just, I just love an alternate reality where I could

see what would have happened in that final stop. Well, let's talk about it, shall we, Tommy?

Question from P1Patreon member Flyunez. Was Max on for the win without the last stop?

The beauty of hindsight, hey? I think that considering what we were saying during the

watch along, I was absolutely losing my mind when, yeah, Max had the puncture, which I think

actually put him on to a really good strategy to utilize the brand new mediums that he had.

And he had seven lap holder mediums than Lando with around 20 laps to go and an

seven second advantage I think it was. I believed at the time that it was game on.

I think the advantage was still with Lando, slightly faster package, I think in the race,

but also had fresher tyres. But I am mystified as to why Red Bull decided to go that route when

the only way Max is staying in this driver's world championship is if he wins. He has to win the

race. You have to roll the dice. And yes, on paper, brand new softs come out about 13,

14 seconds behind Lando, but also have to clear two Mercedes. Maybe that looked on paper the better

decision. However, a computer does not tell you or does not give you that insight of what Max

Verstappen can do when defending with a championship potentially on the line. I am

absolutely wholeheartedly convinced that him staying out was a better decision,

not just to maybe fight Lando, which he would have been on the back foot,

but would have, in my opinion, secured P2. It was only seven lap old differences between the

medium tyres of Lando Norris and Max Verstappen. It seemed more, but if you actually looked at what

Lando put on in that final stint, it was not brand new mediums. They were like seven laps old.

So I believe Max had a small chance of winning the race, a bigger chance of

giving Lando some trouble and securing a second place. That is what I believe.

You have to risk it in that point. This is why I'm so frustrated, because to me,

that pick call shows that Red Bull as a team, and I don't agree with this at all, have decided

and made the conscious choice of we will do what the best result is on paper

for this race, not thinking about the championship.

But that's insane. That's an insane statement. Do you actually genuinely believe that Rebla sat

there on the pit wall, not wanting to win the championship or championship?

No, that's a different thing. Not wanting to win the championship,

but going, because they even radioed going, we're fighting for P2 here.

They didn't believe that they could ever fight Lando Norris, which I think is absolutely

insane, because on a computer it's telling them that this is the best strategy to do.

And I would argue that, and this is what Formula 1 teams, I guess, will never do,

is surely in this situation, you go worst case, even if he does bumble down to about fifth place,

or they stick the soft sign a bit later, and he gets up to fifth or whatever,

it's surely better because basically him finishing second, or even

third, which he obviously did, because he struggled to get past the Merckx here,

he would have, he needs to basically close on to Lando's lead. And instead, the gap now

is far too much. So it was absolutely worth the risk, in my opinion, because you've got Max,

who's the most aggressive defensive driver on the entire grid. He's got Lando Norris behind him

on not a huge amount of fresher mediums, and I do think Lando probably would have passed him,

but equally in this situation, Lando Norris is not going to risk anything with Max's

Tappen. He has raced Max's Tappen many times and knows exactly what happens if he goes for a 50-50

move on Max. And it seems insane, and there's also something I want to add into the mix,

that Liam Lawson went 52 laps on the mediums and finished seventh by basically just being

a complete roadblock. And it's really hard to pass in 2025. I know Brazil is an easy track to

overtake on, but we saw that even with Max on the fresh soft, he didn't just fly past the Merckx.

So all evidence pointed, in my opinion, to just stay out, because you've got the fact that

one, he's in the lead, why not risk it and try and get back in this championship, because

it would have been a seven-point swing in his favor. And equally, if there had been a red flag,

a safety car, something, he'd be in the lead. So I don't get it.

I don't get it either. You know, we talk about it more and more, and it's annoying,

because I think up until that point, Red Bull had pulled off an absolute blinder, both with

turning the car upside down in Park Fermé, obviously starting from the pit lane,

and clearly made huge improvements with the car and how it was handling. So it's a

great job from them on that side. I think as well, starting on the hards, a bit of luck, I would say,

on his, it sounds weird to say that him getting a puncture was lucky, but in the sense of like,

it was under the VSC. So it was a cheaper pit stop. And also he went onto the mediums,

which were the best race tire. And that's why we saw loads of drivers pit at the end to put

on that tire. So there was a scenario there. And I'm very shocked. I'm really shocked that

Red Bull just didn't roll the dice. It doesn't matter if he finishes fourth or fifth or sixth.

You've got Yuki Sonoda, who is finishing plum last, obviously had some problems with the

mechanic starting work to serve his 10 second penalty, but either he's not scoring points

either way. So Red Bull, are they fighting for second in the championship in the constructors?

For me, it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense. So I am, I am a little bit annoyed to not

have at least seen that unfold because Lando would have had a question in his mind of,

is this fully worth a send to the inside at turn one on a Max Verstappen that has only

seven lap holder tires than me with 10 laps to go? It was very strange because again,

it wasn't like Lando was catching him at two seconds a lap. It was like six, seven,

tenths a lap that Lando was eating into his margin. And yeah, it's a bizarre call from

my side. And it's easy to pass, but it's not like slam dunk pass where there's like a massive

enormous DRS straight where it's just completely, you know, with it, if you're within a second,

it's done. Yeah, it's not easy. And it's not easy to pass Max Verstappen of all drivers. So

yeah, as we keep saying, I'm very kind of upset that we didn't see that because a pit lane to

P1 was actually a small potential in my eyes. Let's go to the next question. P1 Patriot member

Anastasia W. Do you think Max's performance today reminds everyone why he's still the benchmark

and how different the championship fight might have looked if Red Bull started the season stronger?

Well, obviously, I'm going to say this, you know, as a Max fanboy with the Max Verstappen

shirt on. But I think even his haters now are starting to realise that he's the best in

Formula One. And I think if you, you know, put your neutral hat on, if you don't think Max Verstappen

is the best driver in Formula One, I'm very confused because he's shown it time and time again. And

this was another situation where he's done it. And it's almost like it's almost normal in a weird

way what he's done because he does so many times in his career. We were talking about

before the coverage, they showed some old races and we were chatting before we were streaming about

Michael Schumacher. And 2006, Michael Schumacher had this amazing comeback. And he finished fourth.

And it's almost like a forgotten race because he's had so many great drives. And weirdly, this

one could probably go as a forgotten drive because he's finished third. And this is the

hot take that I want to throw into the mix. But I think this drive arguably is even better than

last year's. Because in terms of the way it's gone for him, he had no benefit from safety cars.

Clearly, you know, the car is not as good as last year. Of course, they changed everything and

it was looking very quick. But it will kind of, you know, to go from the pit lane to be 10

seconds off the lead when you've had no safety cars to other than obviously at the start, but

later in the race to let really change things. It was a phenomenal drive.

It was. I think the safety car obviously benefits him somewhat because it bunches the pack up

together. And he was on the medium tyres and was able to go on the attack. So there was a small

benefit there, I would say. But yeah, it wasn't handed to him. And I can see your point in

some ways. I think from a, uh, entertainment standpoint, you know, the 17th to the first

will always be the one that's remembered because he won. Yeah. Because he won. However, his

pace difference there and the car that he had underneath him last year in comparison to this

year, where he was knocked out in Q1 on pure pace, of course, they made changes to make the car

better. But it is just as impressive, if not more from Max today, because it was a dry race.

There wasn't this, these massive sort of like turnarounds of conditions and things like that.

And he didn't have a car that was a second lap faster than absolutely everybody.

So yeah, I see your point. You know, they're two very different drives and they will be

remembered very differently. But it was a sensational performance from Max today to turn

around this, this kind of drive from, from what we saw only yesterday. And also as I say,

I think a big sort of applause needs to go to, to Red Bull for, for figuring out what on earth

was going wrong with that car. Next question from people on Patreon member, PGO stick one,

championship is over now, right? Well, we're back with another one. Championship on,

championship back off, championship on, championship back off. Lando has a significant margin now

in the championship. It is unsurprising to be honest with you, after what we've seen

from Oscar Piastri, from the mistake he made in the sprint, and just generally the lack of pace

we've seen from, from Lando's teammate, Oscar, and Lando on the flip side of that has been

sensational. He has, he's not really put a foot wrong. His starts have been brilliant as well.

Of course, this was something that was always a question mark over here, especially when he was

on pole, he would lose a position or two. But we've not seen that in recent races. He's been

every time there's been a moment of all he could slip up here, a safety car here, or

the pressure that you had on that final Q3 lap. He's just found a mojo now that is very much

championship worthy. It is, you can't, you cannot deny that whether you rate Lando as a driver or

not. He's doing everything he needs to do to win this world championship whilst his teammate

is faltering massively. So the championship isn't over as we've seen from Zanvo. Don't

forget that was an 18-point swing because Lando's car had a problem. There can be moments in the next

three races and one sprint to go that could put Oscar back in this. Max is mathematically possible,

but it would require some ridiculous scenarios to unfold in the next three.

But Oscar also requires that now. You look at the gap. It was nine coming into this. Of course,

there's a 15-point swing. So it's 24 points now between the two drivers if I'm not mistaken.

So that means that Lando can now finish second behind Oscar in every single one of the races

remaining and still become world champion. And that is a confidence booster, if anything I would say.

However, Las Vegas may well be the outlier for McLaren if we're looking at on paper,

where they may well be a little bit weaker. Yeah, championship over definitely for Max,

of course, because the points have swung back. He's basically like two wins behind

with three races to go. So even if in Vegas, he got really amazing fortune and McLaren took

each other out and he won the race, he's still a win behind with two races to go,

which are very much McLaren territory. And we've seen just how rapid Lando is and doesn't look

like any sign of slowing down. In terms of Oscar, it is still very worrying. I think

we'll talk about the crash next, but I think more worrying for Oscar is he almost,

he was always going to probably get a penalty. But I think going into the moment when we saw

Oscar within DRS when after that penalty, he was on the back of Lando and you thought,

right, Oscar, this is your moment. You need to try anything here to get past.

And within one lap, he was like a second off and lost DRS. And then the gap just got bigger and bigger

and bigger and bigger. And even with some good fortune, it's now getting towards a race win.

Lando just looked so, so comfortable. He was driving superbly. And Oscar just doesn't seem

to have anything. He doesn't. Let's get into that moment, shall we? Because I'm going to

share my most memorable moment, which obviously is Charles Leclerc being taken out of a potential

podium and the incident that unfolded. So let's get into the question. NJ Mercer 95.

Was Oscar's penalty fair? Here we go then. Let's talk about the rules and regulations, shall we?

By the rulebook, that is an Oscar-Piastry penalty. Yes, he was not alongside at the Apex.

He had lost control of his car. So with both of those, of course, lost control being that he'd

locked his brakes. That is a penalty. Yes. And I firmly believe that he was at most to blame for

what happened. However, Kimi Antonelli certainly had his role to play in this. It's still an

Oscar penalty in my eyes. And Kimi doesn't deserve a penalty because he's not the one

at most at fault. However, Kimi and the way he drove could have easily made all three of those cars

go through the first corner unscathed. Kimi Antonelli should in theory know that Oscar

Piastry is coming down the inside. And the line he takes is as if Oscar's not there.

Oscar still has his part to play to not hit Antonelli by the rulebook. He needs to be

alongside, literally side by side with Antonelli at the Apex to basically win the corner.

And then Antonelli needs to give him space. He did not manage that. So therefore by the rulebook,

Oscar deserves the penalty. Was it fair, you know, we get into the spirit of racing now and,

you know, I look at that incident and go, well, if it was my own rulebook,

I believe that Kimi Antonelli had a role to play to ensure that they did not crash.

But that's not what the drivers are driving to. So we're kind of in our own fantasy land

over what we would love the racing rules to be, which is not the first time we've spoken about

this on the podcast, not the last time we're going to speak about this on the podcast.

So in my own virtual reality land of how I would like Formula One to go, I don't think Oscar,

in my version of Formula One, would have got a penalty and I'd say to Kimi Antonelli,

you had your role to play and so 50-50. But in the rulebook that we are working towards,

yes, Oscar does deserve a penalty. It's also interesting to see that Charles Leclerc

after the race also kind of said that Kimi Antonelli had his role to play and felt

it was more of a 50-50 between the two of them. But that being said, you know, the stewards try

and as much as we slander them all the time for decisions, they try to sort of stick to the

rules, be as consistent as possible. They almost take a snapshot of the apex on what's going on.

And sometimes that doesn't tell the full story, but that is what happened. And for me,

I do think Oscar did deserve a penalty by what we are working with in 2025.

Yeah, I'm of the same opinion. I totally understand the

annoyance because this is more a question on the racing rules and something we've had so many

times. And it's almost quite similar to yesterday's in terms of my opinion on it,

where if you watched the sprint review mentioned about Liam Lawson getting that penalty for going

down the inside of Oli Bearman and them kind of touching. And he's got every right to go for

that move. And equally in this situation, Kimi has had a pretty, I say a pretty poor, a very

poor safety car restart to the point where basically two cars are swarming all over him.

And then as Oscar goes down the inside, he, and this is why, and I know people are rather

asked, I'm going to mention Max Verstappen again. This is why the rules benefit someone like Max Verstappen

because he in that situation dives down the inside to the apex. He doesn't care that he

probably might even T-bone Lando Norris gets into the apex first. And this is why these rules

are so ridiculous. And even as a Max fan, who they benefit him massively, because you because it

always warrants people just diving into the apex to make sure you're there. Because if anything,

Oscar doing the sensible thing of deciding to back out of it because Kimi Antonelli is coming over

is the only reason that probably that he's basically got this penalty because that means

not far alongside enough to going into the apex. And then it's his fault. So

these rules do just open this can of worms or basically you watch it and your racing brain

and just wanting to watch good racing and entertainment goes, that shouldn't be a

penalty. That's a racing incident. It's as much Kimi Antonelli's fault as it is Oscar

Piestri's. But the stewards, and this is what everyone wanted after the controversies we've had,

just stick to the letter of the law. So that's why he's got a penalty.

Yeah. I mean, you speak about Max Verstappen, look back to Mexico. That's exactly what he did

to Hamilton. He went side by side with him. They banged wheels. People are questioning

whether that's fair. But he got to the apex first. But it's the rules.

He got to the apex first. And it feels like Oscar, you know, he knows that's a three wide

situation. He knows he's fighting for the championship. It's a kind of a little it's

not a fully committed move. It's a move of I'm trying to sit on the inside here,

try and make a move. But yeah, I know he'd never do this, but his best bet was to absolutely

send it into the corner. Because if anything, if he messes it up, he's taken out his championship

rival London or a sunny way. But it's but it's but it's true. He has to be selfish there and just

go dive down the inside. But because he's backed out, he's kind of been penalized by the letter of

the law. I mean, to be honest with you, I don't think he actually could have gone any harder in

there because he's already locked up. So he's made a mistake. And you would assume that he's on

the limit of the car anyway, if he's if he's locking up. So I'm not sure what more he

really could have done in that situation, because he knows my opinion is locking up

because Kimmy Antonetti is basically coming right over on him. And he's they're about to collide

like where he actually locks up. It's it's very marginal. It's either he's locked up because he's

just going in pretty hot or he's locked up because of Kimmy's slight move is probably more the latter

in that situation, in my opinion. Okay, so that kind of covers it. The racing rules are

still pretty rubbish. But I mean, at the end of the day, like how do you you know, you've

got you got the racing rules of the stewards just decide each and every time, whether it's

fair or not. And then the consistency goes out the window, or you have, you know, snapshots of the apex

and then they decide it, I think Formula One is always going to have question marks, you're never

going to have a fully fair system, in my opinion, it's always going to go one way or the other.

So there you go, Oscar Piastri. That was not ideal, because as much as, you know,

coming out of that scenario, we thought, Oh, all right, he might get a penalty,

but he's in second. He's he's he's finally got the clean air that he requires.

But it still didn't turn into a P2 because it's the pace just wasn't there.

Next question, you skimmed over Leclerc there actually, thoughts?

Yes, scumbag. Yeah, great. Thoughts on I mean, Charles is completely and utterly a passenger

in that in that scenario. He's he's gone deep around the outside into turn one. He's, you

know, he knows that there's going to be a battle days locked up a very small amount and

then just taking a massive hit to his front left wheels come off immediately.

Like you can't do anything in that situation. He's taken advantage of a Kimmy Antonelli slow

restart and he's been penalized for it. That's just Charles Leclerc's entire formal one career

in a nutshell, really. Like how unlucky can you get? It's so true. It really does like just

a career summary of Charles Leclerc right there that he's

destined for something great to go around the outside to get into P2 and instead

unfairly taken out of the race. Good. Glad I had to dive into that piece of

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Next question. P1Patreon member Matthew Cole 04. How impressed are you with Lando's mentality?

Very, very, very impressed. He's been faultless the last two weekends. This was a very

interesting race because maybe we went into Mexico thinking that the mentality of Lando is

worked in his favor. The fact that all the pressure is on Oscar Piestri leading the title,

Max Verstappen doing his comeback. Lando's in the lead and we're getting very close to the

finish line in this championship. How would he do? Actually, he's performed perfectly

again. Absolutely faultless, brilliant pole position lap, led the race comfortably.

I do wish he'd not mentioned in interviews about saying, oh, my mentality is that I don't

care what people think but then goes on to continue that he's almost like trying to

pretend that the McLaren's not the best car and stuff. You don't need to say that and

I think Lando is just having such a good season. He's absolutely deserving of this world championship

that he's very, very, very likely going to win now. Particularly as he's had a DNF,

mechanical failure would be even further ahead and the way he's driven in those last few races

and much of the season to be fair had a difficult start, of course. He absolutely

deserves to be world champion and his mentality of just getting on with it is very, very impressive.

It certainly is. We've touched upon Lando's flawless performance this weekend, borrowing the

small mistake in the first run of Q3. He's answered every critic's question. We've asked

questions on this podcast of whether Lando who previously has struggled with the pressure

can deliver and he has. He has comprehensively delivered and he's now got the buffer in this

championship that can almost give him an element of comfort. It's not like Piastri is finishing

second every time and still putting a little bit of, oh, you know, it's eight points,

it's 10 points. Now, it's nearly a race win that he's got in the locker now,

ahead of a teammate that's struggling and Max Verstappen's out of this championship fight.

It is the perfect scenario for Lando now who has an insane amount of momentum with him and this is

what I've said prior maybe at the start of the year that when Lando gets in his groove and feels

good with the car and has that confidence, he's almost unstoppable and it is a brilliant,

brilliant couple of weekends for Lando and he's been scoring a lot of points and we can clearly

see that now because Oscar's faulted. He's fallen off a cliff. Lando could have easily

done the same thing but he hasn't and he's very much champion in waiting at the moment unless

Oscar can find something miraculous in these last three races but I just cannot see it.

There's not even been a glimmer of hope in the last five. Oscar again off the podium. That's five

in a row now that he hasn't been on the podium. Meanwhile, Lando's winning Mexico by a country

mile today looked reasonably untouchable so yeah it's brilliant for Lando. It is and I think what's

been impressive as well is you know on paper you could look at it and go oh McLaren's been clear

the last couple of races and Lando's won by a mile but some of these parts of his game that

we've questioned a lot. His race start was absolutely fantastic again. You know Kimmion

was starting on the soft but he nailed it and his safety car restarts again were great so

yeah he's basically just in the best form of his life and what a time to do it.

What a time indeed. Let's now move to another question and perhaps non-forms of life's going

on. At T-Drag 10 is Bearman going to replace Hamilton sooner than expected? Lewis Hamilton

had a poor weekend for sure of course not even making it into Q3 in either quality sessions

that we had during the sprint weekend. Misjudging where his front wing is on his car and crashing

into the back of, was it Williams I think it was? It was Colapinto Alpine and ruining his race

there as well of course getting massive floor damage. Ferrari I'm imagining are not particularly

happy with what Hamilton has brought at least on track. What he's doing off track remains unseen

we don't know. It's not as if Ferrari have taken a massive step forward this year if anything they've

gone back they've not won a main race. Hamilton's sprint win being the only real highlight for

Ferrari apart from a few Charle-Claire podiums. Bearman I think is absolutely destined for

Ferrari. He's a Ferrari junior driver he's basically on loan to Haas if anything Haas

just have a great relationship with Ferrari of course with a Ferrari engine in the back

of that car. End of 2026 you know next year is massive for Lewis Hamilton I believe where

new regs, completely new car, a refresh. If Hamilton comes out the blocks a new revitalized

Lewis Hamilton then there may well not be any in, room at the in for Ollie Bearman.

However if Lewis struggles once again I firmly believe Ollie Bearman will be signed for

2027. I don't know if that's a hot take or not but I do. Hamilton is a very expensive driver of course

he is the man with all the records but if he's not able to deliver at this part of his career

then the top teams have to look at the the newer talents. It's an insane thing to say

because I firmly believe Hamilton does have it within him he's shown it for a ridiculous amount

of years but Bearman is now coming into a point in his career that he's starting to do what I

believed he could do and showing huge amounts of potential. You know this is his rookie season

and he's into a flow now that that can't be ignored of course he's going to have to put

together an entire 2026 campaign to prove that he's deserving of that Ferrari seat as well

but if Hamilton has another year of struggling then it could well happen. Then again

Bearman could also get a seat because Charlotte Clair gets sick of the Ferrari

and if 2026 is not Ferrari's year again then Charlotte Clair may leave and that will give

an opportunity to Bearman so it's not necessarily that he'll replace Hamilton

but Lewis is in a very important stage of his career where he's not going to be given a

three four year length contract because you know he's a an older senior like Fernando Alonso on

the grid. I do wonder I think it's I don't think it's a hot take to think that that

Ollie Bearman is going to replace Hamilton at some point but I think with Lewis Hamilton I think

there are certain drivers on the grid you know legendary status and of course his form

and you know the sensible choice if his form continues into next year I really hope it doesn't

would be to you know say Bevan has this amazing season at house and Hamilton's continuing to

struggle it would make more sense to put in a younger driver that has more you know

improvement than someone that's really struggling but I don't think it is that easy when you've got a

seven-time world champion in your team. I do think Ferrari it's not as easy as just getting

rid of him because I think it will be a case of Hamilton having to decide himself rather than

the fact that he will be pushed like I can't imagine a scenario no matter how bad Hamilton's doing where

they're the ones trying to get get rid of him personally and this is this is just the way

that you have credit in the bank with with what what you've done and what you've achieved in

in Formula One that being said if Hamilton's form that's happening now continues into next

year then I think it absolutely will be that Hamilton will probably just decide to retire himself.

So you think it would you know Ferrari wouldn't put the pressure on at all you don't you don't think

that if Hamilton has another season where his head-to-head with Charlotte Clair is like I don't

know ends 24 or something like that that you know it may well happen this year that it is quite

bad reading for Hamilton I'm not saying I don't think that that will have the same level

of form I think he's just hated these regulations and next year I firmly believe he will be a

stronger Hamilton and we won't even be having this scenario but it's an interesting one to think of

because you can argue that maybe Mercedes has done that yeah I mean Mercedes definitely did that

and then Mercedes didn't want to give Hamilton any more than a year contract I think it would

be a situation again where they like for I would probably basically like to basically give

him the contract in a certain way and not not sign a huge contract and then it would be Hamilton's

choice whether he wants to keep getting a one-year contractor if he says okay I want a longer contractor

otherwise I'm going and then would he retire or move somewhere else I don't know. All right next

question P1Patreon member Sky Sara what was Stroll thinking with that move on Gabby and why

wasn't there an investigation? I think Stroll was thinking that a car wouldn't be on his outside

and there wasn't an investigation because I don't think it was his fault.

You know I think Lance we all know what I think about Lance Stroll and his performances and his

driving and there was an element of Lance Stroll doing Lance Stroll things where he just drives

as if there are you know ghost cars and he's driven he's driven his normal line but he doesn't

need to make room for Gabby Bottoletto making an audacious move around the outside and unfortunately

for Gabby because it is heartbreaking and I really really wanted him to do well here you could see

how much it hurt him from his post race into you he wanted to deliver for his country you feel

like particularly in Brazil like the weight of his country's on even more like he really wants

to impress here we've not had a Brazilian formula for a long time so he really wants to deliver

but I do wonder if it was just Gabby maybe being a little bit too eager to please at a race start

going for a move that unfortunately the gap was closing and that's why it's going the wall so

I can't blame Lance Stroll for that one. No I can't blame Lance either it's an audacious

move to say the least from Gabby Bottoletto it's lap one he's obviously trying to make

up more positions realistically is he going to go all the way around the outside of Lance

Stroll at that corner specifically no I just can't see that and you can't really set up for the next

corner either because it's not like it's a long straight after that it's you know hurling down the

hill towards Zhongxiao or however you pronounce it I think I did that all right um so it's

it's not on Lance Stroll yeah Lance had a part to play in the sense of it felt like he was

a little bit off the racing line and veering to where Gabby Bottoletto's line that he

decided to go was but also Gabby by the racing rules has not earned any space around the outside so

yeah it is a massive shame my heart goes out to Gabby and all of his supporters and family and friends

and everyone else that was there to support him it was an absolute disaster of a weekend for him

but I have to put the blame on Gabby it there is a small part to play for Lance but Gabby is

predominantly at fault for that happening because he went for something that was pretty pretty crazy

pretty crazy and one of my actually just just on that one I think I know he won't be thinking this

but one of my takeaways from the weekend is that we're just happy that he's all right because

some of the aftermath of the pictures that came from his crash in the sprint are probably the

most totaled car I've ever seen in Formula 1 for a very long time and just you know it can't be said

enough just how amazing it is that he could just walk away from that absolutely I echo your sentiments

completely next question p1 patreon member Sophie can we redo the sprint races next year to make

sure we get a sprint in Brazil how can they get rid of this one I believe money talks I believe

that sprint races are a commodity that some circuits want and especially the ones that

aren't particularly good for just Sunday racing so they give it another opportunity

Miami to to be good on a on a Saturday as well it's it's it's disgraceful to be honest

with you that Brazil doesn't get a sprint race just kind of like just sign sealed delivered

it's fine it's Brazil like the history of the circuit the fact that it delivers

every single year and and also you know having that one practice session just adds to the chaos

adds to the question marks that teams have over what strategy is going to be best so I am

very very upset that we're not going to get a sprint race at Brazil it just it belongs it

absolutely belongs the more race I want three sprint races and a main race I just we just

want as much racing around Brazil as possible because both delivered this year and it's it's

sad to see and Formula One once again not understanding what the fans want and it's

not five minute races and it's not the fact that we just want one race around Brazil it's

the opposite for both absolutely the sprint they've picked some very questionable ones going

next year um you know Brazil has delivered so you so I mean it's fundamental proof that they

don't pick what will be best on entertainment it's more other scenarios like money and you know all

these kind of things because you look at what Brazil has delivered and how that the sprint has

just made it amazing every single time and then they've put in things like Singapore which is

just the most awful awful awful which feels like the one that they've actually replaced it with yeah

because it's the last one on the cat so the last one in the sprint calendar to remind you all so it's

China's getting a sprint Miami is Montreal Silverstone Zandvoort and Singapore at Zanvo I can

understand it right by Zanvo last one a little parting gift parting gift have a sprint but

a Singapore sprint rather than a Brazil sprint is utterly ridiculous in my opinion

and sad to see right next question people on picture remember rubbish bin 21 can we also get a

compliment to the tv direction they've been doing so much better lately they have they absolutely

have you do wonder how much that the situation in was it Singapore where they were cutting to

driver's girlfriends at every single moment and just generally poor like missing the battles

they of course that the thing that really wound us up was they're missing that battle where

Alonzo was catching Hamilton Hamilton with the broken car and they didn't show any of it and

they were showing you know after the race they didn't show any of the the kind of racing that

was still happening and you do wonder how much in that situation where social media spoke up

big time you know we posted a a clip about how annoyed we were everyone was memeing it

you you saw so many jokes about like people making memes and videos about like abby w 2021

where it cuts to Charlotte Klaas girlfriend as this happens passing Hamilton things like that

they cut to me crazy but you do wonder if after that it was like such a like moment of ridicule

for formula one that they saw this backlash and thought we have to do something about this

because ever since then we've seen much more track action it feels like they are looking at

gaps are using the mini boxes here and there they don't always get it right and I sympathise

because it is live live sport you know but looking at how they played it at the end

they were always going to show Max Verstappen because he was you know going for that move on

on Antonoli for p2 it was looking very close they put piastri and rustle in the mini box which

is perfect and fortunately for them they needed almost another mini box because there was the

greatest fight of all time going on the midfield but then even after that they cut to land across the

line they cut away from immediately show Max and Antonoli and then they rather than showing Lando

waving to the crowd really slowly they cut to that midfield battle and this is exactly what we've

been screaming for for literally years now so long may it continue it's almost like they've

listened to the p1 podcast it feels like we've done something here everybody um yeah that they've

listened to the fans and that's the most important part I will say the one thing that I will sort of

at least maybe correct you on is the fact that in Singapore it was not the fact they were showing

the girlfriends and things like that there was Kim Ilman actually did a video and counted and

it wasn't much cut away it was the fact they were showing the wrong things they were showing

battles that weren't ever transpiring into anything the lead and you know it was over a

second or whatever it was they're just showing the wrong things and we came away from Singapore

thinking oh there's actually nothing has happened when actually Carlos Sainz went from

17th to 9th or whatever it was. Alonzo is dive bombing people. Alonzo yeah we're seeing all these

replays all these social clips and going well I want to watch this live but you fast forward

to today and absolutely like f1 tv direction if you're listening you have done a phenomenal

job to turn this around to exactly what it should be as a broadcast whether there's

always been this sort of murky line of you know you look at you know the sky package and things

like that and then you compare it to the f1 tv package where it's more you know that's that's

what they sell us you know you can get more on board you can get more this more that they've

sort of almost put transitions some of that into the main race broadcast which people still

pay for and should be more things more small mini boxes and yeah they've just got it absolutely

right and yeah well of course we'll always have small criticisms here and are why did you cut

away there and you go back to the sprint and there was Charle Leclerc making a move on Alonzo

and they they moved the mini box just as the move was happening and I can understand that of

course there will still always be small frustrations from fans but overall a huge step

forward in the tv direction I found myself clapping at least a couple of times during

the watch along of what they showed and to say what you said Tommy there at the end

the fact that they showed the battle I mean there was literally like a 12 car battle so the fact

that they showed that was common sense but they did it they didn't show Lando on the the slowdown

lap they didn't show zap brown cheering in the pit lane they showed the right things and

yeah long may it continue please just note down what they've done and just copy and paste that

forever because yeah it's what it's what we want isn't it and what we've been wanting

for so so long on that that midfield battle I do understand why they didn't show it because of

course you had the battles for you know Max at the front literally for the podium Oscar going for

the championship as well fighting George so they were totally in their right but my god I cannot

wait to watch that back on social media what happened because Liam Lawson to in seventh to

Lance Stroll in 16th were separated by less than six seconds absolutely insane that is ridiculous

imagine being Lance Stroll finishing 16th and seven seconds less than that and he would have been

with a handful of points that is crazy and that's just what Brazil does we love to see it

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right let's head to biggest winner driver or team this one's a difficult one for sure there have

been some standout performances and there have been you know insane driver of the day Max Verstappen

esk things but would you call in the biggest winner with the fact that he's out of the

championship fight for me it has to be Lando Norris Lando won absolutely every competitive

session whether it was qualifying or racing you know he topped every session and and that's

that is bigger biggest winner material that is championship winning material and he has a

massive margin in the championship now so Lando Norris fully deserves biggest winner

yeah to do a FIA stewards as we've been mentioning about the letter of the law

and the fact that the term is biggest winner because you know if we're talking driver of the day

there's many you know Max Verstappen won at Kimi Antonelli was fantastic Oli Behrman was brilliant

again but you know the letter of the law is biggest winner and there's no bigger winner

than Lando Norris who basically has one hand and four fingers on the championship based on

you know how he's delivered and the points gap as well so amazing stuff from Lando amazing

indeed biggest loser well Ferrari who love love just always crowning biggest loser usually for Ferrari

uh bought a letter of course also deserves an honorable mention for biggest loser because he

literally I feel too harsh to call him biggest loser but it is harsh but yeah they can take that out

great thank you mate really you've got just so savage it's great um but yeah Ferrari I think

gets my biggest loser because we have double dnf it's not the first double dnf we've had double

dsqs we've had double dnf's for Ferrari this year it's just a disaster of a season yeah and yuki

yuki finishing 17th going for the penalty world record and just having a stinker crashing into

people um is almost just like not even surprising anymore sometimes based on how that second

is going it was so so poor um but it's got to be Ferrari it absolutely does uh right let's

head to our predictions if we have to where it was 48 all coming into the Brazilian Grand Prix

and I decided to do one of the worst most generationally washed set of predictions

that you've ever seen so Matt throwing the championship will be a question on social media

so for me good surprise I went for George Russell after Tommy essentially took Lewis

Hamilton away from me thank you but it doesn't matter because George Russell decided I'm slower

than Kimmy Anson Lou this weekend uh so that was wrong it was it was very wrong and also

what was very wrong was Lewis Hamilton uh going for that in the first place because

thought it was going to be a good race for him and my word he was really poor all weekend

he certainly was a big flop again horrific I went for Ollie Bearman who decided you know

Brazil I like that now after last year being very difficult for him I had a brilliant I wouldn't

say maybe weekend because of course the sprint didn't go massively well for him he had that that

penalty point and the penalty with Lawson and things like that but the main race such a comfortable

p6 from from Ollie Bearman he was miles ahead in p6 actually wasn't he was so clear 23 seconds

clear of Liam Lawson in seventh of course not close to Oscar 14 seconds behind him but

realistically a great drive from Ollie Bearman and sadly I cannot claim a big flop because

he finished sixth rather than fourth last week last time out so I'm not even going to try that

and I went for Max Verstappen which was looking the easiest and probably almost as generational

prediction as the Oscar Piastri one that I did in Bakke but instead he decided to be Max Verstappen

and just fly through the field and finish third yeah did one of the best drives of his career so

I don't think you can say a big flop sadly for that one I say sadly I'm really glad that

you didn't score a point because there are a few coming your way sprint poll obviously I went for

Max Verstappen I put everything Max Verstappen but that was incorrect and I went for Charles Leclerc

because I didn't want to be boring go for Norris for everything and you should and I should have

sprint when I went for Max Verstappen which did not happen and I went for Landon Orris which

was a point congratulations pole position I went for shock Max Verstappen incorrect and I went for

Landon Orris which was correct boring boring Bellingham once again third place I went for

Lewis Hamilton that didn't happen and I went for Charles Leclerc no sorry I no I did do that sorry

I was I was questioning my own prediction yeah I did go for Charles Leclerc which was incorrect

it was incorrect indeed in second position I went for Landon Norris and he won the race

and I went for George Russell which was incorrect and in first position I went for

shock Max Verstappen and I went for Landon Norris which was correct I just also realised

that had to throw right back to the start of the podcast and that decision where we go about

pit stop if Max had held on you would have turned the predictions championship on its head

because you had Max winning in Norris why do I get so close I feel like that's happened

that literally happened in Mexico didn't it where I could have got three points and I got none

because of the VSE at the end joke I'm being robbed I mean that would have been an incredible

prediction to have the first Max Verstappen and win from the pit lane okay so you've scored

three points Landon was literally winning you the championship and winning himself the championship

as well one crazy prediction I went for Hamilton gets a podium in either sprint or race because

I thought oh you know open it up and no chance Hamilton didn't even get close and I went for

all McLaren pit stops that under three seconds which basically was on until a scopiastri got

a penalty which of course throws it into the works because it was never going to happen

yeah it's mad to think that it was a 13 and a half second pit stop but then the

actual pit stop looked like it was a 1.8 second pit stop because of course they're ready for

the tyres but it doesn't matter because it was an extra 10 seconds added on to it so it's fine

we need to Michael Massey this somehow because you've scored some decent points Patreon prediction

I went for Peyton all in on Max Verstappen Max is within a race win from the championship

lead after Brazil so if we ignore Landon Norris he I think he believe he's 25 points behind

Oscar Piatri so Oscar Piatri is still the championship leader right so half a point

uh incorrect I went for Jensen's listening and it was Lewis Breaks's podium

dropped which of course he did not right let's head to the family top three it is 10

nine to the Boring Bellingham's and I fielded my girlfriend Tommy fielded his daughter his

three-year-old daughter and uh Ellie went for in third place Landon Norris which was incorrect

incorrect Grace went for Oscar Piatri which was looking very good that could have actually

happened uh the start of the race I think Oscar Piatri was probably odds on favorite for a P3 yeah I

would have bet Piatri finishes third and that did not happen in second Ellie went for George Russell

no and Grace went for Lewis Hamilton no sadly you need to have a word with Grace she knows no

will no way and in first position I went for Max Verstappen uh which was close the closest thing

I came to scoring a point with Ellie and Grace went for Max Verstappen so no sadly not so Ellie has

drawn with a three-year-old she'll be glad to hear that it's her birthday today so happy birthday Ellie

and that is it we are done and dusted if you want to come and join us on the P1 Patreon

side of things we'll be carrying on with a few more questions but if not thank you everybody

for your love and support on the watch alongs and everything else I hope you've enjoyed the

content it's been uh it's been fast and frantic with uh the fact that we're out in Denver at the

moment for the P1 Live Delusion Tour still some tickets available if you want to see us in any of

our North American venues Tommy what are your final thoughts final thoughts uh what an emotional

roller coaster of a weekend but I wouldn't have it any other way for Brazil I say I wouldn't

have it any other way I would have absolutely had it the other way of Max Verstappen winning

it all but um in terms of just Brazil delivering again I just I just love this circuit so

much like what a dream and long may it just stay and form the one for the rest of time please

and my parting thoughts I'm also going to do one uh for those of you that watched the watch

along you would have heard this um but you know Tommy being depressed during the watch along

that Max had gone from the pit lane to p3 uh meanwhile my driver went from p3 to the pit

lane so who's really going through the most troubles here I would say me so thanks Tommy

you know there are people that are struggling a lot more than you so cheer up your driver

got a podium from the pit lane that is it thank you everybody we'll see you soon lots of love

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