THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! Jan 3, 2025

Bugatti Reclaims the Speed World Record, and a Bad 2025 for Electric Pickups!

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Bugatti Chiron

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Ferrari 288 GTO

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Ferrari Sf90

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Mclaren Artura

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Hyundai Ioniq 5 N

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transmission simulation

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Hyundai

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electric car

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Lamborghini Urus

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RS

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Bentley

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Audi Rs

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Porsche Boxster

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Hyundai Ioniq 5

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BMW X5

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Lucid Gravity

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[Music]

hello and welcome to this car pod I'm K

I'm fipo and happy New Year everyone

it's 2025 filipo is still writing 24 on

his personal checks 100% he will for

another 40 days or so but it's our first

podcast of the new year and we begin

with the news and actually a rather Dark

Turn for our podcast there were some

incidents last week uh there was in New

Orleans there was a pickup truck that

was used to drive through a crowd and

kill a bunch of people and then there

was an explosion in outside of a casino

in Las Vegas both of these incidents

used electric pickup trucks which was

unusual I saw the lightning pictures

that morning and I was like huh that's

odd it is odd uh and then it came out

that they were both

rented now this is a car new story only

in the sense that these are interesting

new models but I'm I'm kind of curious

if it will come out if the person spec

because they were rented I'm curious if

it will come out that the person

especially New Orleans specifically

chose the lightning because it is heavy

and silent and fast silence the silence

is an interesting point yeah I wonder if

that played into the idea there yeah

it's so heavy and each of the things you

said is spot-on it is silent it is very

fast I actually don't know what trim it

was but they're all relatively fast

right and they're so heavy they're so

heavy and you wouldn't hear it I did

read an eyewitness report in one of the

news articles we saw the truck and then

we heard him floor it and I'm like

eyewitnesses are the worst you did not

hear that but it is interesting say it's

interesting and it'll be interesting to

see if that if that is does come out to

be a component of this later or if

they're ever even able to determine that

but obviously odd to see these trucks in

that those backtack new stor well and

tragic certainly both of them um the

lightning is about a th000 to 2,000 lbs

heavier than an F150 than a regular F150

and obviously depending on typically

faster um yeah which is it's the scary

propos proposition and the cybertruck

explosion was wild I mean it it looked

like a something a video game like it

really didn't I saw that and the first

thing I thought was like this was not

just a cyber truck exping no a lot of

people jumped to that conclusion really

see look at these trucks EVS yeah

exactly but no definitely not when it

especially when they went like that

sound did you watch the video it's a

while yeah there's like fireworks going

on that was an impressive firework

imitation thank you that was I I like

imitations I like doing that all right

give us the next news story

please2 there are 27 vehicles that are

available with a manual transmission

that's down a little bit yeah barely

from 2024 you want to just guess any of

them yeah I mean I bet we could yeah I

bet we can probably you want to can you

go no I don't want to go through all of

them I'll give you eight eight or so

ct5v Blackwing one is does the ATS

what's okay the ATS hasn't existed for

about here's the question I have for you

before we try to name 27 cars how many

of them are still base models of there

are a couple but there's like two right

it's it's morphed into just an

enthusiast it really has the only base

models that come to mind the Nissan

Versa the Kio doesn't exist and the K4

probably doesn't have correct but the

Nissan Versa does have it okay the MAA 3

which is Bish has it per in the bass

Trim in the premium trim which is bass

and that's it wow wow I mean Thea GI is

like the sporty version the LA and both

also the sporty version so so the days

of manual transmission base models are

basically dying with the Versa like

Mazda would do it anyway cuz they're

sporty and it's offered

but also those cars are dead the Versa

is like the only one left really that's

the really small Sub Compact today so if

you want to if you want to be cool and

have a manual or getting a cool car it's

interesting the manual has become in the

US anyway solely the purview of

performance cars which yeah makes sense

like they're not cheaper to manufacture

they're not more fuel efficient anymore

no that used to be those used to be two

big things they were cheaper to

manufacture they were more fuel

efficient yep uh and so automakers would

get higher EPA ratings with them so they

could advertise that was always a big

deal and then they manufactur they could

lower the B price can I give you one

Versa fun fact that I pulled from the

autopia I don't think you have a versa

fun fact the utopian could not find a

single press photo of an elano of a new

Nissan Versa with a manual trans like on

on Nissan's website did you not exist

trying to find a press photo of the

first generation Ferrar California with

a six speeed in it really hard to find

pictures of that

recently right now right now do you

remember those last Mercury ecli or

mitsi eclipse pictures where they just

took it outside the Factory and snap

some photos great press phot yes by that

pond by a pond

manmade do you want to guess which man

there's two manufacturers that are tied

for the number of model lines that have

a man trans I guess yes I think BMW is

one of them correct por no what Porsche

only has three model lines that are how

many does BMW have four what but there

there's one other manufact M2 right y uh

M3 what a fascinating now has correct

but there is one other manufacturer that

has four models that are available with

the manual Subaru no Subaru no Subaru

Honda Subaru doesn't sell four Honda no

Ford Honda has won

theur no good effort though meag if you

keep no incorrect only only one because

the GTI is no longer available with the

stick what yeah they're really screwing

us plus Volkswagen's going electric you

know I saw an ID Buzz yesterday and I

was like I want that I think I want one

they're so cool yeah Toyota is the

Toyota is the answera Acura has won the

Integra aack and typ pass what does

Toyota get they have the the gr Corolla

G Supra the 86 the gr86 it's called now

and uh manual you have reviewed it not

in manual form but you reviewed it uh

new Camry no the new tooma is the one

you you with didn't I review a manual I

thought I did oh maybe I don't know I

thought I did I haven't watched your

Tacoma video I'm really s I've done

another one since then and I havn't gone

up yet um those are so that they Toyota

and BMW are tied for the most manual

transmission cards they offer well to

BMW the two Enthusiast brand well hats

off to all the manufacturers who are

still offering manual transmissions in

their cars I'm glad that you know a lot

of people complain that BMW is going

stop listening to their customers the

cars are so ugly it's like as we have

said a lot but you can still row your

own you several different cars and there

a lot of people say oh they're not as

good whatever it's like well do you want

to row your own Gears or not in my

opinion I'd rather have a third pedal

than not and so I'm glad in a lot of

cars four different model lines

apparently he's been tricked by them

that the three and the four series

are I I I will accept it though but um

can we all pour one out for our favorite

manual transmission car the Jeep glad

Gladiator that is no longer available

the man they're ditching the stick

Gladiator but but the Wrangler still

available don't worry yikes uh okay give

me our next news story there are still

quite a few all right Nissan Honda we

talked last week or a couple weeks ago

about how there are talks of them

merging and they are under memorandum of

understanding about potentially merging

and then there's now there's been some

conspiracy theories there haven't been

conspiracy theories just I think that

now they're actually having to explain

what they might do and it's becoming

more and more clear that the biggest

concern is that Nissan will be purchased

by a non-japanese manufacturer so foxcon

approached Nissan which makes iPhones

and also probably cars I mean I don't

know the Chinese market make everything

uh Foxon approached Nissan about a

takeover and I think that the Japanese

government is really concerned about

that why they got Toyota one of the most

eminent manual transmission

manufacturers right they don't need

anything else but the Honda CEO recently

was asked at a press conference why are

you interested in merging with with

Nissan and his response was it's

difficult to to that's a difficult

question and then did not expand further

it well we're we're focused on Seattle

yikes yikes so it's it's clearly there's

a lot of pressure to to to do it there's

a lot of concerns about what happens I

don't understand why not just let Nissan

do what it does if if you want to take

over get a takeover there are Japanese

brands that are real serious Brands

Nissan Toyota subar I mean Honda Toyota

Subaru Subaru of course has owned

largely by Toyota dhatu also owned

largely by Toyota well great Toyota's

killing it then we don't have any

problems right Mazda which still makes

cars to this day also might be partially

owned by Toyota yeah it's also partially

owned by Toyota when I was a kid Mazda

was more owned by Ford or not they had

some agreement tribute the tribute and

the ranger the Navajo and did they help

Navajo didn't the probe wasn't that also

develop yeah you remember what the Mazda

version was called can anyone here get

it wasn't the the it wasn't the 323 it

was called the MX6 but in Canada I am

serious about what I'm about to say in

Canada it was called the

MX6

Myster you know how it was the MX5 Miata

yes the MX6 mystery how that spell it

was like m y s t r e I'm not sure how it

ended I never heard it said it was

Canada nobody the MX3 in Canada was

called the MX3 precidia oh very nice you

remember the MX3 I do it had the world's

smallest V6 remember 1.8 L V6 so they

did the MX3 the MX5 and the MX6 but no

mx4 uh I don't remember if there was an

mx4 but I guess maybe not yeah anyway

that was a good good call out the pro

your mom had one my mom did have one

correct uh there there'll still likely

be a merger but it's very clear that

it's being driven in large part by fear

rather than strategic decision let's say

well fear-based mergers are fine yeah

sure um nothing wrong with fear right

little fear goes a long way right for

instance we all feared when

Mercedes-Benz and Chrysler got together

and boy were

reite that was the worst merger in the

history

mer I think we'll have a new

competitor it'll be I do think it it to

me it does sound like this is being a

little bit pushed by the government must

be Honda is obviously in a much better

situation Nissan is kind of a disastrous

company uh and so that's a whole

interesting thing just like dler

Chrysler they will of course bill it as

a merger of equals a merger of equals

and it will not be

and and hopefully hopefully the result

of this is infinity goes away we can all

hope or Acura or both Acura by the way

here's an Aira question for you guys why

doesn't Aura make a luxury minivan they

are obviously the most BS of the luxury

Brands I mean the most let's not call

them BS the least luxury right like BMW

is like oh we don't build minivans Aira

like builds minivans you know what I'm

saying like mentally you go to the Acura

dealer and you're like you don't have a

minan so you're saying an an Acura

version of The Odyssey yeah is what

you're saying why not do that yeah I

would buy that the odysse is pretty nice

as it is I know but you could have the

Acura mlx MLV

mvx I don't know that's how they name

cars I don't know how they they they do

weird stuff over there they do they like

to have it end with an X that's the SUVs

end with an although the sort of the SED

so yeah they like except for the integ

inte the name great it's implied I mean

it though The Oasis I mean it though

they should have an Acura minivan I've

have a lot of other like they don't have

a hybrid or an electric car they sorry

they do have an electric car the ZDX I

saw ZDX on the road last week did yes

you you want to sent me a

photo week I'm the I'm not taking ZDX

you see a ZDX on the street you said

fipo fipo fine will it's beyond your

level of

understanding the angles are bad in that

car there's a lot of uh there's a lot of

no in the Countach I I my phone goes

away it takes you're focused on driving

there's nothing else at all times when

driving Doug phone is away that's true I

was hoping that he had a dash cam that

could take a photo from that's true but

if you were ever going to take your

phone out of light or whatever you don't

do the K you also don't do the C GT

because getting started is hard the the

clutch situation is a challenge okay

move on to the next news story this is

ah yes so speaking of performance cars a

man standing next to a Bugatti yes this

is the Bugatti mistr so this is the

final car to be built using the shiron

platform and this car their headlights

illuminate the road those are the

headlights now over the years it's

changed let let let the adult go back to

sleep so the mraw has set a new record

it is the world's fastest production

convertible to

282 miles hour which beat up the

Hennessy Venom GT which did itself was

very impressive doing

256 or 265.0 miles hour and of course

the Hennessy Venom GT is we know not a

production car right well yes you said

it but yeah so this was set at er which

is Bugatti's test track Volkswagen's

test track that they have the same one

where James May did the you know it has

the five M straight that they can do it

on so naturally they did and the driver

was you ever look at this on Google Maps

it's wild it's incredible I'm much more

interested in the C of does it is it

actually a convertible or did it just

it's like a T-top situation well let me

let me show you something there's no

roof what you mean it's a convertible it

is a convertible implies that it can be

converted I know you live in the I know

you live in the Corvette World where the

coup and convertible both have Ro

what is the deal with that by the way

everybody's like oh I have a coupe no

you don't nobody has a coupe it doesn't

exist unless you C in my mind means the

roof does not come off the coupe the

roof comes off which is different from

the convertible where the roof Ro comes

off it is so weird that we just accept

the fact that there are Corvette coups

and convertibles both of which are

convertibles yep and everybody just goes

yep sounds right yeah but uh yes the

roof does come off and you can put a

roof on it making it a convertible you

know it's weird by the way I admit I

have not paid a lot of attention to

Bugatti lately uh I didn't know there

was a the whole thing about shiron was

they didn't do a convertible but I guess

the mrol they have a convertible there

was no convertible Chiron they just

renamed it and changed the body work a

little bit yes and they only produced 99

of these so I mean it wasn't like it was

common but yeah 1,578 horsepower is what

it took to get it there 282 mph in an

open roof car which and of course to set

the record my understanding is you have

to go in One Direction Turn Around come

back and do it in the other direction

and take the average of the two that got

to presume they do it with the roof off

right because the roof Can't sustain

those speeds so imagine it'd be because

yeah it would because it looks like the

I can't tell if those are intakes there

I would imagine that they're related

something but like you're doing 282 M

hour with with no roof oh it must be I

mean think about an airplane like if you

open the door on an airplane that's what

it'd be like The Arrow is so for the

wind I mean it would be insane this dude

has no hair because it got blown off 40

minutes earlier when they did the Run W

I'm sure was wearing the helmet that's

in his hand that matches the car which

I'm sure you can buy as a whole it's

probably 25 Grand why does the car say

sing is this going to a uh wealthy

Indian custom maybe I don't know okay um

but none

nonetheless like it is cool to it is

cool this is the way the shun goes out

as we prepare for the is cool that

people are still selling setting top

speed records I do have to say though as

I think about the fact that Kos was the

fastest car in the world in it day as

you often do and I do think about it oh

I know uh although I would never even

attempt it was just assume cuz nothing

cuz cars were garbage then it is sad

that the purview of the fastest car in

the world has become zillion dollar cars

like you there was a time when Kos and

Mira and boxer and 288 GTO were like

duking it out there was a time when you

might see the fastest car in the world

like parked at a valet stand in your in

your town if you live you live in Monaco

you're good but like now these cars are

like not attainable I mean it's sad that

the top speed record has has is no like

no longer a thing I refer I agree I

refer to the as concour cars like you'll

see when there's a concore you'll see

this like parked at a valet somewhere

like car it's a car week car these are

production cars in a different sense

than like when the old days when the

Daytona was the fastest car in the world

just cuz no one made a car with a bigger

engine and it just was the fastest you

that was a cool era we need new

categories of like production cars where

they've actually made yeah cars right

can I say two things that are going to

be controversial here oh boy the fact

that it's a convertible when it's a

purpose-built car that they're making 99

of it's just an aerodynamics question

and like the what the top does doesn't

matter you're not you don't have a

convertible like is an aerodynamic it's

a legitimate aerody and it's impressive

but the fact that it's convertable is

doesn't feel that notable well and and I

mean making it's because they could it's

not it's a it's a good Christmas news

story when there's no other news but

it's not a record that we would like the

fastest car is the record this is a foot

now I would I also want to know now is

what is the car that can have the top go

up or down at the fastest speed that's a

record I'm actually interested you know

what the answer to that is is is cars

with tiny tops although I just did an an

naata video well it's main start you can

do it at any speed good call oh at the I

thought you meant the top goes down fast

no no no no at what speed can you still

have the top go down a lot of cars first

off Fast and Furious they did it on a

sura sport roof at like 70 I me also be

able to then put it back up well did you

mean that because Nick Mercy you could

Proby at fun 150 you could do it and

I'll tell you something na a you could

do it on own based on the way that yeah

it's 60 M hour do it on its own okay

give us the other new story which is

even more interesting yeah so this one

really fascinated me so lambor it was

seen at the Lamborghini factory recently

there were a number of cars going in and

out presumably Lamborghini was using

them to Benchmark and sort of see how

the manufacturers approached things one

was a Ferrari sf90 which I'm sure they

wanted to see what a a market failure

car would look like and then so they the

other was mlar artura again I repeat

myself and the third car that was

interesting was the was the Hyundai

ionic 5n I suspect as you probably do

the reason they did that I think was

because of the transmission simulation

that does where you can you can shift

gears but it's all electric and

Lamborghini as I talked about in the

last podcast is pushed back when they're

going to do an all electric car and I

wonder if they're not as intrigued as we

are about that about the Hyundai and

thinking that this might be the approach

to make something fun and have some

Spirit even though it's electric it's

tremendously interesting and the fact

that they got that car there you got to

assume they don't need a benchmark

Hyundai for for any other reason but

that car has one very special component

to it and I felt that the component was

so special that I made an entire second

video just about that and it was kind of

a BS video but like I really wanted to

make the point to my audience but also

to those who watch us in the automotive

manufacturing community that I think

that this electric car shifting is the

future for performance electric cars yep

and I am tired of s getting into

electric cars where you just put your

foot down and it goes anybody can do it

anybody does do it you can buy one of

those cars now for $22,000 on our site

right this car made it fun in a way that

I'm glad someone is paying attention too

I totally agree I got to drive that car

and it blew me away I was I felt

surprisingly optimistic about the future

of what it's not a three pedal manual

but it's also not a which would be cool

flid and you know like it's better than

that it it gave it it's interesting it

was and but and for a sports car mostly

with the exception of the ERS producer

like a company that Focus start focusing

on that I think is really telling yeah

and I'm hopeful that that is what what

comes with especially because Porsche

said although I think it was a Porsche

racing driver who said that they would

never do shifting and F would never

build an SUV I mean here we are you know

me I'll tell you though Porsche if

Porsche's driver probably doesn't speak

for the company but this is Porsche I

mean the Urus uses the powertrain they

all share this so like it's all being

developed at the same time if

Lamborghini is looking at this stuff

then you have to assume it will find its

way into Bentley Porsche Audi RS such a

great point which is interesting because

if it does then suddenly like things

have been livened up a little bit the

tyon should have this the tyon should

have this there should not be an

electric Boxster that is released

without this feature I think there

shouldn't be an electric boxer released

at all and uh I think the market will

agree with

you forche already kind of feels that

way I'm supportive but nonetheless hat

off if this is how it goes hats off to

Hyundai and ionic 5n for getting there

first yep we will always talk about this

as a thing if this is what happen if

this is It's again we maybe we stand it

changed how I feel about performance

electric cars first it was while these

are fast and that's pretty cool and

dynamically some of them have been great

the tyon is dynamically is is as better

than paname probably but

like this made it fun in a in in a

totally new way can I ask a question

have you ever seen an ionic 5on on the

road have you no we live in the land of

new electric but I if they weren't so

expensive I would love to have one think

performance electric car is a weird

segment people want performance cars

people want electric cars very different

people but Lamborghini would be the

people that Str them all right next

segment we're going to move on to

talking about cars which we've already

been doing but now we're going to

especially talk about them in a new seg

not news related now I have on our

little pod dock here in my top car

segment I have feelings about the new

camera fipo is very curious I'm incred

take nap now F fipo was very curious

okay here's my feelings about the new

camera the new camera came out for the

25 model year Hy only one

in the country to drive one okay I was

when I reviewed the car I I I reviewed

it as a video journalist and so they

they usually give you those at the start

or at the end of the launch and just by

chance they gave it to me at the start

so before anybody else and as I turned

in the car they said to me you know

you're the first person outside Toyota

in the world to have driven the new C

and now I have this feeling of ownership

of it whenever I see one on the street

right ridiculous so I'm driving around

and I see a new camera a lot and I'm

like I'm like that's my that I drove

that first I like I I'm thinking that as

I'm driving around the other day I saw

one getting like a an incident like

someone cut one off in an old Camry

actually the new Camry got cut off and I

was thinking don't you don't you cut off

car

what I don't know I don't know but every

time I see a new camera now this is my

feeling it's like I was there man they

really got to I was there

it's like Bap Root's called shot if you

were

there I that's how I feel about the new

cam and so every time I see one on the

street I'm thinking to myself me so do

you know you don't know this but you're

you're next to the guy who drove it

first you don't know but if you feel the

line where the paint changes color you

can actually feel a little difference

right you could have found that out even

if I hadn't driven it first though but I

have driven it right you know you've

driven a lot of cars that I am envious

that you've driven the C m is not one of

those cars well I'll tell you this kenon

you say that if you want to but when I

see a shiron I don't feel ownership over

the shiron for good Reon I got 12

million views Chiron I got the biggest

Chiron video they maybe bought it

because of you that's fine that's great

people come to me and say that all the

time I bought my XYZ because of you but

the Camry the Camry I was number one

okay and that's my feeling about the new

Camry I have like some personal I don't

know

what I'm really proud of you for being

the first person outside of Toyota once

they had finished velopment and we're

ready to release the car to have

happened by happen has driven that

except of course for every port

worker probably the valet of the hotel

where the launch was happening someone

get gas in it I mean he he's probably

the 27th person spouses of all of the

Toyota employees who took it home in

Georgetown Kentucky the point is I feel

ownership over the car okay give us your

uh Filippo actually I'm glad that we're

next we can move on from this unusual

topic to

discuss when you see a new camera you're

going to think it now when when the

world sees a new cam I saw a lot of

Camas in the last two weeks I did take

that if I die tomorrow remember me for

the camera um okay filipo tell us about

your holiday yeah we I drove over 2,000

miles 2200 miles how was the family they

were great we I saw my in-laws saw a lot

of a lot of different in-laws it did

what was the Christmas dinner over at

your place there that was a week and a

half ago let me think about that you

forgotten I have I made it what did I

make

was it a roast I give he was tired after

driving 2,200 miles I made a risoto oh

God and I made not

risoto was very cheesy on purpose was

delightful I also had to make some some

dairy free one that was harder but we we

for Christmas my family is also Italian

although not Italian enough for filipo

my grandparents all came from Italy it's

not enough for him but it doesn't count

you know I I qualify for Italian

citizenship but we had spaghetti or as

fleeto would call it

okay anyway 2,000 mil in your station

yeah and it was wonderful every time I

take a long drive it just it's so

competent we we we was my wife and I a

dog for about 700 miles of it my mother

andlaw was in the car we did other trips

with a bunch of people yeah and so good

listen 26 half miles per gallon over

that which includes a lot of trips to

Mile High and above elevation yep it's

just so good it's so good I drove mine

across country La not last summer summer

before 23 and I lament daily the fact

that my cross country drives will not be

in that car anymore so comp so good and

our car has 115,000 Mi I've driven it

50,000 Mi since I bought it on cars and

bids three years ago and it just like I

I I was thinking because I had 11 hours

in the car yesterday to do some thinking

what would I get and like what else is

that a new one I'm going to sell you

mine at the end of it yeah probably what

else is that good like is an X5 that

good is a that comfortable station wagon

does an E-class station wagon thing

almost letting him talk about not

getting a car no obious I'm keeping that

wagon forever cuz worth nothing I truly

I'm it's especially worth nothing

because unbeknownst to our viewers it

got hit again not it was parked in front

of our house and somebody hit it fipo

bought this car out of main okay he's

still got a main inspection sticker on

the windi in San Diego is purp left it

there it's the only one in existence

yeah pull it up yeah there it is a gr

car it's brown it's quite an ugly color

com designo interior designo interior

designo exterior it got hit again uh

this time it's brown on Brown yeah um

the interior is brown and

black the third row seat was only they

only did it in Black sense I mean yeah

because I got a white interior my throat

was also black although by the way my

white interior my wife's only driving

that car now and my white interior ain't

so white anymore let's just put it that

way kids the there's not a lot of care

being given noodle y noodle gets in it

every day anyway the point is nothing's

like an E-class wi no it's just finest

car it does it all and it's good to

drive this is the thing about waget you

get the practicality of a crossover but

it's actually d i ofast for ding the

brown diesel manual wag you know the

whole thing but like there is a

reason they're pretty good right and

it's like there's not like a super high

center of gravity so if you're going up

to the mountains you can have you're not

going to have fun but like it's competi

you know how much role my Sequoia feels

like it has it's just like yeah pous

it's ponderous the station is it and

it's so comfortable although the next

gen is so I know I have to imagine yours

is so much better I have driven yours

around town like I brought brought it to

the office from your house if Mercedes

wants to loan me an s214 I would I would

take that I got to get one as a pres you

do uh I already shot the video that not

with the wagon but I will I will also

say my car is over 10 years old now it

has distronic use it the entire pretty

much the entire time and a 10-year-old

Mercedes adapter cruise is still good

yeah your card distronic will will go

all the way to zero it'll go zero it

will you have to pull thing it will

start but only after a few seconds you

have to pull thing it will start m I it

it leaves it leaves a lengthy Gap but it

will start on its own and it will steer

on its own there is nothing better than

a Mercedes E-Class station wagon except

the BMW I5 wagon did you say you prefer

if like they made a touring of that that

would be only because I want electric

and it doesn't seem like Mercedes is

going to do that I mean eventually

eventually but BMW did it today and I

would get an i5 tour ring literally

today I would get out of E-class wagons

after I've had five e-classes six

e-classes and get into an i5 but BMW's

not bring it to the US but I have an

electric car charger my house now I am

ready to plug in no one is making BMW

bring it on no one is making a midsize

luxury electric station wagon for me

what is going on don't you understand

you would sell 20 to 30 a year also

nobody's making a good midsize SUV

luxury SUV either cuz I'm not calling

the ex good and I'm not calling the EQ

is good the EQ SUV what about Tesla you

you forget about Tes model Y is too

small oh model X yeah what about um what

about the maon uh electric oh for

Christ's sake he's just really got a

narrow ex is a great car the ex is a

great car are there any luxury three row

SUVs right now no the QX80 sorry three

low electric oh sorry we only do big old

Motors is the model X yes sir model X

rivan don't forget rivan is eqs SUV a

yes there's a three row in that and

let's also not forget the Kia EV ner not

luxury was my my definition I will say

though the Lucid gravity will be out

soon Lucid gravity out soon the rivan is

the one yeah uh and the ev9 you don't

think it's luxury I sat in one didn't

drive it they drove it in in a sheet

remember that I do I sat in one seems

luxury to me seems luxury to me just

saying yeah quite nice okay Kenan give

us your uh talk cars segment yes so I

one of the things you know it's it's the

new year and everybody has resolutions

they've made and I wanted to make some

Automotive resolutions for myself to

follow I would love to hear what they

are oh wow there are two two oh goodness

number one one buy a Cayenne Turbo

that's the that is one I'm going to do

this year one of the 10 we have a

giveaway there's an update on that we

haven't announced yet but you could

potentially maybe buy a kayen turbo one

that's here in the

office need some Stu that one is a Doug

De Muro contest winning automobile I'll

sign it don't please don't sign that car

leave the leather alone the leather I'm

going to sign the hood and then we'll

ppf over it you might you might you

might walk on the hood for the next

owner but I that I would like that car

but it is a little bit high mileage for

what I'm looking for one one that's you

know kind of 70 80,000 what's the other

resolution the other one is that outside

of normal routine mans oil change you

know whatever I don't want to I'm my

goal for the M5 is I'm not going to

spend more than $2,000 on it this year

like including routine maintenance no

like just in general I wanted to keep it

to a thousand but I thought something

might crop up but I want to keep it to

I'm not going to spend more than two

grand on the car like for for it does

need like the window tint needs to be

replaced at some point like starting to

peel that will cost some money but like

really outside that there's nothing that

the car needs mechanically and I need to

slow down the spending on it so that's

my goal for this year proud of you for

setable Resolutions and that like that

I'm proud of you I got a resolution to

get to buy a Bugatti bullied I'm sorry

bulli

day you said that's not

attainable Manny did it um can we can we

do viper instead of no C seem seem seem

Viper no Ian the Viper would be nice to

have um but uh I am I think that the Cen

turbo gives me more more like mental

Freedom that I need let me ask you this

$2,000 resolution on the M5 spend MH

what about on the Cayenne Turbo spend

right you're well here's what's gonna

happen if you buy a kind turbo next week

and put 30 grand be like I didn't spend

two I didn't spend more than 2m F I mean

that would be true um but no the whole

point of the kind turb is that it needs

a lot less it it's not as maintenance

intensive as the M5 we hope if you want

something not made intensive why not buy

a fifth gen 4Runner because that is a

garbage vehicle drive around it or why

notas a new car just it's a truck and I

don't want something ponderous then the

Ken turbo is not ponderous have you

considered an s212 wagon it's been hit a

couple times but I I'll sell to you for

a good deal what about bclass station

wagon dude out the ground clearance gave

me so driving around in the I got mine

is an allterrain dude I can lift it it's

liftable you can go on all but yours is

still it's still very much on the

depreciation curve like it's still

that's I don't like losing money to

depreciation I'd rather spend money on

Main I'd rather spend money on

maintenance then I would depreciate supp

impres the cost I actually one time I

saw a comment about this like Kenan

laughs at people who do depreciation but

but he was willing to put 20 grand a

year in his car it's like yeah yeah my

car better better right your car is

getting better appreciating cars are by

def definition not getting worse and it

doesn't and that doesn't you don't feel

that pain until you go to sell it and

then it's like damn I lost all of this

money it just evaporated can I ask you a

question kenon so we are in this

underground office here and it takes

we've timed it about what a minute and a

half if every time you want to leave or

get into counting like driving to the

elevator using the elevator and driving

out takes like four but is its own

problem uh will you be willing to park a

cayen turbo you buy outside yes the

whole point of the C turbo is it's a

stressfree vehicle I'm not going to care

can that you're not going to clean it I

mean I'll clean it occasionally but I

probably won't hand watch it often like

I'll probably take it through a gas

station touchless whatever G bottom the

hill is that the show okay uh perfect

can can we hold you to both of these

things yes I mean the whole point of

this car is like no I still we make sure

it's nice I'm not going to like just

completely trash it but the point is

that I want something that just it takes

away the I I don't have to spend mental

energy on it the M5 is taken enough of

that out of me and honestly like the

other big concern one of the things I

added to our document to talk about is

I'm really concerned about E39 Parts

availability like the Hela just

announced they're not going to produce

headlights for the car anymore which is

something that fails on a lot of those

really and yeah I've replaced mine but

they what do you mean they an does hel

put out a they they they Ryan and I were

talking are you going to buy extras uh I

should have Ryan bought two sets of

extras for his car but I why not buy

extras as long as they come under the

$2,000

cap we can squeeze it in or squeeze it

into 24 I'll I'll give you a buy on the

headlights if you want to just do like a

Mullan how how much do the headlights

cost I they're not as expensive as you

think I think it's like 800 for the pair

which is incredible because now modern

cars like one of your headlights is

probably 1,00 you're going to find out

here in a couple of no luckily my tail

light was was broken that's only

complicated it's less complicated but

it's still L I looked 25 it's only 500

instead of 1,800 or 2,000 the front with

didn't your panel get impacted though I

I have some you're going to PDR it no no

no I I I'm getting a quote tomorrow from

a shop to we've been gone for a week and

a half and it's been

drivable I'm concerned about what we'll

discover the cost to repair this will be

also because you're saying you think

it's total how many miles does it have

115,000 uh 115 what did he pay 27 27 150

um I'm not that so the on next week's

podcast I'll talk more about it once I

have a quote but the side corner was hit

the tail light and then the bumper and

the quarter panel so it depends on how

badly the above it was was injured cuz

well injured could you PDR that Pro I

think so I'm like 98% sure that it will

be easily fixable there's 2% chance that

can I ask you an honest question why

don't you just buy a tail light get PDR

the panel buy a tail light stick it in

well it all depends on what the shop

says tomorrow uh I mean I know insurance

is paying for it but me and kenon could

knock this out in a long weekend with a

couple of cold ones hey I I will say in

a while haven't a while the in hitting

it they also destroyed the blind spot

sensor that's inside the bumper and that

having had to replace one because of War

uh that alone is about a grand oh this

is the problem as much as I like your

car the benefit of the newer car is I

mean that you replace that because of

War youve done brake lines how much was

that well that was cheap stuff starting

to get starting to fail I mean the car's

got 12,000 mies it lived in Main and

everything is fine now I've never had to

do a single mechanical thing I like

engine mechanical thing I love well that

that motor was Stout I do love that he

took the picture here to emphasize the

salt water hey just so you know just as

a reminder yeah well Sal should have

been more of a clue than I gave a credit

for and memory Serv when you had the

break one stuff though rust was an issue

rust is an issue with these which was

not when I bought the card which was

three and a half years ago there wasn't

that much talk about in the forums I did

a bunch of research but it was new

enough that not that many had rust did

had rust issues well now they do well

yeah I mean it's how cars age it won't

have any more

is fine and the bodies don't seem to

rust as

much which by the wayed e53 X5 same

issue3 X5 he had one of those yeah I

also to place the

break okay next segment of our podcast

is the market we're going to talk about

the car market there's a market report

we call it the market report the market

report is brought to you by The Cars and

bids app you can download the app on

something on the IOS app store oh yeah

yeah right the IOS app store uh there's

a lot of interesting Market things to

discuss that we've all written in here

uh I want two cars that are dropping

like flies like flies kenon fli they're

going to drop CU sometimes they go up

right well these are the dropping ones

one of them is Nas Defenders pull up the

nas Defender that we not sold are weak

we just and no SED this one at 35 this

is actually a special one in in in in

'94 you you want to do a little Deep

dive on these in 94 all 93 all the nas

Defenders were four-door 110 those have

already fallen in '94 they came back

only with a two door 90 they were all

convered ver Ables in '95 they only made

500 hard tops really so this is one of

500 it's a rare car um and I think

they're all white and uh they were the

only way you could get a hard top manual

because in '97 they came back with the

hard top they were all TI there was no

96 there was no 96 if you want because

the man was so high this is no cuz cuz

they were still trying to get rid of

these trash things if you want the

Enthusiast Choice it's the coupe manual

Defender okay this this is that and

they're by the way they're individually

numbered out of 500 because it was only

a 500 production R what number is this

we know sailed this I'm sure the plaque

is in there somewhere yeah you got to

look on the exterior the pla PL on a

Land Rover is on the outside I know but

don't know where we put it uh anyway the

point is we no sailed this I saw the uh

oh wow 34750 for 34750 and I was that

was surprise to me um it it just looking

at those pictures it definitely did here

there's the plaque it's number 355 K I

should have bought it uh just look at

those pictures it does have some

corrosion but these were easily 6070

$80,000 cars that the manual coups were

were special um and they're not anymore

and uh I that's the trend I've noticed

all over it's not just arm it's all

Defenders all all Nas Defenders what

happened was the nas were special

because when they came out they were the

only ones you could get in the US it was

the only way you could get a Defender

when the defender first came out Land

Rover reported them and there was a 25

year rule so you had to wait 25 years to

ort other ones and 25 years has come and

so now you can import 2,000 model year

Defenders straight from Europe no

problem and it has dramatically hurt the

value of these cars now the only way you

can register one in California and a

couple other states is if you get an Nas

truck but people don't seem to care we

all do the Montana the Arizona the other

whatever South Dakota and also the

imported trucks people are now going to

Great Lanes to make them cool and so

people are putting in lsv8 automatic

transmissions cool Wheels Cool Interiors

you know heated and cooled seats all

this other stuff that really sets them

apart from the nas Defenders which

people have really tried to keep mostly

stock because they were special they

only made 7,000 Defenders for the US

market total and things have changed and

that this Market is really really really

starting to slow down there's still

demand for the 97s because that is

basically the only way you can get a

factory Defender with an automatic

transmission they didn't really sell

automatics overseas um but there's not

but demand is slowing and and Market is

coming down it's so different than it

once was we when we started the site we

always hoped to have an Defenders cuz

they're desirable ones and it the

Imports had just started to try

and they had a massive value difference

between them these tapped it tapped 100

Grand pretty pretty regularly for nice

Nas Defenders even manual transmission

ones which are always worth less uh and

that has definitely fallen and now you

can get a nice one 5060 and you can get

a ratty one 30s which is kind of where

they were 20 years ago um really not I

mean I sold mine for 96,000 mine was in

great shape I had done a lot of good

stuff to it this is also the most

desirable version a 97 convertible is

the most desirable one yep and it was

titled in California but the point is

being made these are starting to come

down they've come down massively last

year yeah I Imports matter I think also

kind of recognize that they're not

they're not they're not better and the

Imports people are just there's all

these shops that are good M and so we

always used to be able to say well we

have a 50 St legal motor and it's a V8

whereas the the Euro ones were Four

Cylinder Diesels well now v8's grow on

trees on Defenders anybody can get an LS

swap Defender and this old 3 and2 lit

Buick V8 which Rover reappropriated made

180 horsepower is nothing to write home

about I'm glad I got out of mine

honestly I I don't regret it can can you

search for Defenders generally cuz we

have also like to that note we've done

really well with those the Euro ones we

sold we had a crazy number on on the on

a pickup that and 132 on the SUV right

before it on on the 130 that's right or

guess this one brought 132 and it was a

6.2 L there are specific sh2 this one

then we defend is doing a bunch of them

but there's a lot of other shops they're

doing great like full yep Restorations

and and honestly the people who buy

these which which truthfully is The

Nantucket The Hamptons the the you know

that whole set they'd rather have these

they've got more Creature Comforts this

is who this is what these people

actually want their Land Rover to be

which is like big wheels and leather and

all that I always liked being an Nas

Defender guy because it was kind of a

purist car it was like more of like an

Enthusiast car whereas these are more of

kind of poser you know I want to be rich

in cool trucks but that's what the

market has selected the market would

prefer these trucks it makes sense the

universe of off-roaders that are

importable has increased a lot so the

defender certainly but a lot of Land

Cruisers yep uh that are nicer ones that

we didn't get here Honda Crossroads of

course

important do you remember it I do it's

the trooper no the Honda Crossroad was

the land R Discovery that's right oh

nobody's imported one ever not exist as

far as I can tell I agree that's another

good point you you can you can and by

the way a lot of those are now being

swapped into leather interiors and so

old old FJ Land Cruisers and things like

that the the market of those old trucks

has changed and people don't necessarily

want these original Nas Defenders when

they can get cool stuff with V8s whether

it's defender or Land Cruiser or

whatever that has a similar like old

school SUV look right they get the vibe

but they don't have to deal with the

stuff and there was a lot of stuff I

don't know I I mean and I think that I

do think that in the long run I suspect

the really nicely preserved Nas

Defenders will always command 97s in

particular always command a premium but

it is kind of if you love The Defender

it is kind of nice to know that they've

come down a little bit and you can get

back one and a 50 state one just drywood

first maybe the other car that has

dropped a lot you both wrote this down

and I totally agree pull it

up the Tesla Roadster Tesla Roadster we

r&m a Tesla Roadster the other day r&m

Reserve not meded one at 52 go back

which is a one-owner we had another one

RM at 55 I reviewed that one down there

orange in 21 and made a it set a record

at the time and I made a big point about

how I can't understand why these cars

sell for 50 Grand because they're so

special in the history of Tesla like

they're the beginning of this company

that is has become globally massive and

so the first ones big that one set a

record they all started coming up they

started getting big money things have

changed quickly quickly and by way it's

not just on our site on on I've after

looking I after seen that result I

looked around a little bit there are a

bunch of where the identical cars sold

for somewhere in the 80s a year and a

half ago and now is in the 50s I got to

say big drops you drove this one I drove

yeah it was this was the the development

mule yeah I gotta say though truthfully

I still think they deserve to be

valuable I agree with you I don't think

they deserve to have come down I think

that this car is still special Tesla is

a massive Global brand and this was the

beginning and it's cool and I think it's

a I think it's a time thing I mean I

think you can I think if you bought one

and held on to it for a really long time

you're probably right but in the

meantime I I I I don't know it's it's

hard to it's hard to say suris why do

you think that they've come down all of

a sudden I mean I think interest in EVS

in general has dropped and I think that

the the really hot sales if you look we

in 21 when the market was crazy and in

21 the people who were spending crazy

money on EVS were a lot of like crypto e

like people who now maybe are not in the

position to spend that kind of money on

E and may have bought that as a

speculative purchase or as like a trophy

and there are not as many EV trophy

collectors in

20124 um but I still think it's I just

really believe this car is is is

destined for greatness yeah I love the

those was fun the way it drove I thought

it was cool it was it's such a weird

experience but it you know you're right

I as from a historical perspective I

think it will be an important car to

have in in someone's collection yeah but

value right now maybe now is the time to

buy maybe now is the time to buy I'm

surprised by it because this one with

the battery update also didn't so well

you got chargers now in your new garage

I'm not getting Tesla roadstrip but I

but people should people who want to be

in the EV World should do it yeah okay

next up we got a lot of time for

questions questions questions

questions.com remember you can ask is

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can ask us questions too you go to the

community tab go to carsand bids.com

that's our website you go to the

community Tab and you you there will be

a thing there that says this car pod ask

your questions and we will answer the

questions no matter how stupid or I'm so

sorry can I go back I know what was that

how often do you see a cgtr never Lally

never also especially next to a niss old

picture though that's an old picture

that's an old Florida plate that is that

niss these cars the rest of these cars

not on the road anymore wow but wow what

imagine sitting at a stop it's not in

Florida though right because doesn't

Florida have those hurricane safe stop

lights instead of putting them on a

string what maybe it didn't at time

maybe time this was this was somebody

had to move it from collection to be

picked up for something like that to go

somewhere but what a crazy image my God

okay questions questions questions

anyway uh first question comes to us

from SAA 1988 why did you delete the

rich Parents video this is a question

for me short answer I've got two answers

to this short answer is I don't do drama

at my life stage my age my situ I just

don't do drama I don't want to

participate in it anytime drama Finds

Its way to me I I move the other

direction long

answer because I thought about this a

lot and it's an interesting thing okay

so I did a video for those know I did a

video a couple of weeks ago about this

common criticism people often say about

car YouTubers YouTubers in general the

only way you got successful is because

you have Rich parents uh which I think

people people who are jealous say that

in my case it's not true so I filmed the

video and I filmed the video weeks ago

um I film all my Sunday videos like at

once at the start of the month and so I

filmed it weeks ago I didn't really

think about it in fact I forgot that it

was even going live which is how my

Sunday videos always are uh and I got a

note that it was controversial so I

checked it out and there was a lot of

drama in the comments and a lot of it

was misinformed drama and like the I saw

the top comment with hundreds and

hundreds of upates was if your parents

weren't Rich then what about all of

those Summers that you spent on in

Tucket with them as a kid um I

didn't my parents have never been in

anet until this summer I went there as

an adult you're but but I think that

kind of thing starts to take root in

comment sections there's there's

misinformation uh and people get crazy

and then they start battling with each

other which becomes another thing and so

I deleted it because at my life stage I

don't want drama yeah I just don't care

to involve myself in drama um but I do

want to make another Point here which is

this there are two types of people who

watch my videos primarily 97% of the

people who watch my videos have been

served it on the algorithm or have

seeked it out specifically because

they're in the market for a car and they

want to watch a car video about buttons

they want to see what the buttons do

they want to read the Miata owners man

which I just did and see what weird

stuff is going on and they most of those

people don't watch every video you know

they they come for the Valkyrie they

come for a car they're interested in

buying like a minivan and then they skip

you know the

naata 3% the remaining 3% of the viewers

are the people who are like these always

online kind of perpetually offended

people and this is like your your Reddit

Community your Discord Community the

people like to discuss it and I find it

ironic in these situations um because

these are the people they they post the

threads on red on Discord and they're

like we don't we don't do YouTube drama

but like they actually thrive it they

like love every time there's any YouTube

did you see that Rob did this you see

hoie did this etc etc and it's just not

for me I just don't like do the YouTube

drama thing so people come to me like

hey did you see this Reddit to did you

see this thing on Discord no I didn't I

won't I'm not going to Google it I don't

care I don't make my videos for those

people and I think it's an important

point to mention people think that a

YouTuber's goal is to get as many views

as possible but actually my goal is and

has always been to get as many views as

possible possible from non-annoying

people I would be happy to surrender

those 3% of my audience just give them

up if it meant that I could but I can't

you have to have those people but I

don't have to pay attention to them

that's very fair so the 97% is who I

make the videos for and honestly if at

this at this life stage if something

gets dramatic I'm just out and I don't

care what people say about it because

the thing is the next video I posted was

the valkyrie which was my biggest video

of the Year people don't care they just

don't care they just want to see car

videos and I just want to make car

videos and if anything happens if

there's weird stuff that goes down I'm I

don't want to I'm I'm good I don't we

don't get in fights with other YouTubers

we've tried remember that time I tried

to start something I do which time I I

tried to start something with Freddy on

the Pod right here I tried to but I got

no problem with Freddy well I mean he

never texted you back anyway so he

Freddy no no we we were gonna we were

gonna say some stuff oh but we didn't

and we won't okay next question from

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