C.R.E.A.M. #47 Guess The Car Sound, The GT-R Is Dead And Using AI To Buy Cars

I was driving home the other night behind a bus.

Oh, thrilling. Anyway, because I have a lady voice on mine.

Oh, I'm very rude to her.

German cars, am I right? It's crazy. We fought them in the 40s, didn't we? And now, you know,

now they're taken over.

Hello, and welcome back to the CREAM podcast. The cars rule everything around me podcast.

Number 47. That's the one.

I've just been reminded. We're getting closer to that half century.

I feel like I said half century before, but anyway, I'm Will, Edwin, to the right of me.

And behind the camera, he's back.

Hello, hello.

I'm back.

That was low energy, Ben. Can we hit another one of those, please?

Can we get?

I can't. I'm on the spot now.

No, you can do it. Come on, Con.

Hello.

Wow. Okay. The CREAMers will remember that.

Hello.

There we go.

Was that better?

That's a little bit better.

It better be a ruin this week with that energy.

It is.

But anyway, at the beginning of every podcast, we ask ourselves,

do cars rule or ruin everything around us this week, Edwin?

It is. Well, I'm going to let you in on a little bit of secret.

It's been one day since we filmed the last podcast before.

So for Will and I, it's still very much the same.

But Ben was gone and Ben is back.

I was gone. I was editing away my little cave.

Next week is very busy.

So we thought, let's do another podcast the next day.

So you know what? In the last 12 hours, 24 hours, probably, let's say,

a lot of news.

Yeah, a lot of change.

I drove home and then I slept in a bed.

You came back?

And then I came back here this morning and drove here.

But that with no issues.

No issues.

That is a benefit.

Do you know what?

Do you know what is a rule?

Is that I have the E36 working and I have the E46 working.

And for the one of the first times in my life, I had a,

I could just choose which one to drive this morning.

No.

I've never had that before.

24 hours has passed since the last podcast, roughly.

We're still in camp cell.

Yeah, no, we're still, I told Ben off camera earlier,

but I have, I have, and I'm still committing to it.

I will be saying again, please do not mess it.

I haven't seen the last.

It's not gone out yet.

Yeah.

I haven't seen them, but I already know there are people messaging me.

Please do not yet.

I will put them off my story when I want to sell them.

If you'd message me now, I'll probably more likely to not want to sell it to you.

Now I'm going to sell it to me now.

Well, if someone offers you three times the price.

Then please do, but don't.

I will sell them and I'm sad, but I'm excited, but I'm sad.

But I'm excited.

So we are the same.

If you don't know what that is, just go listen to the last podcast.

Yeah.

For Benjamin.

Now you're back.

You're selling things too?

No, it's just the same.

I am actually going to sell things.

Well, okay.

Yeah.

Everything.

Like everything.

Everything.

Like cars.

Like just everything.

Yourself.

Yeah.

Okay.

Anyone want a PS5?

Oh, okay.

Interesting.

It's got games and two controllers.

Now you, we talked a little bit about it in the last podcast,

but is it still all consuming?

Yeah.

No, I can't.

I can't stop.

We have both set up a reminder or chat GPT,

which also genuinely are useful.

Really good for cars.

For anyone trying to start for a,

either a rare car or any car in particular,

is if you use chat GPT free or not,

you can ask it to remind you every day

or ask it to search the internet for X car.

Yeah.

So you want, I don't know,

a manual E46M3 in the UK.

They give me all the listings.

I know that most of us car people are pretty good

at knowing where to look.

But just going on there and saying,

give me all of them.

Give it.

And it goes here, here's all the prices,

here's all the locations.

Genuinely amazing.

Yeah.

Actually, so really, really good.

So I've got mine set up for notify me

when the cheapest Ferrari 550 on earth

comes up for sale.

That is what it is tasked with doing.

It says, if it's anything close

to what any have sold for recently,

don't even speak to me.

Speak to me when a bunch shell comes up.

That's when you can speak to me.

Yeah.

Benjamin, a rule or a ruin for you.

It's a ruin.

Oh, sadly for me.

Where do I even begin?

So I'm kind of at that time of the year

where my, both of my cars are ready

for MOTs, bit of maintenance needed.

You have to sell one, I think.

It's actually not nice to have two cars

that need MOTs at the same time.

It's nice to stagger it.

Or here we go.

All right, Ben's got the list up.

So X5 needs a steering angle sensor programming.

Okay.

Possibly a new one of those, if that doesn't work.

Wheel bearing.

Yeah.

I need to then get some tires and alignment,

a service, and it has a suspension level issue.

Now, the one thing I will say about this, Ben,

is that you are describing

what most cream listeners just deal with every day.

Yeah.

But all of our cars, just all of that.

Yeah.

But also, you know, it's tough on that car

because that car's expensive to fix.

Fair.

Although we were talking about this earlier

because we were having a daily chat.

Maybe we'll get on to that in a bit.

It's actually quite boring.

Some wild things being coming out of Will's mouth.

It's just sats and golfs being thrown around.

But we were saying that X5 has done 50k

since May last year.

Little bit under, but yeah.

I got it in May and it's done in the region of 40,000 to 50,000 miles.

And between the two of us.

Have you paid anything on that car to have anything fixed?

I had a service of tires, but nothing that isn't conceivable.

So I did the only repair on that car,

which I think it was a wheel bearing service

and a couple of the bits I did myself.

But all in all, in all of that mileage,

Yeah.

It has cost about £500.

And genuinely, that car does not care.

I'll say I'm break down the way home and it'll be awful.

But up until now, it doesn't.

It's just happy.

And you know what?

I think we can both admit it feels quite strong.

Yeah.

The way that it drives, it feels quite strong.

It's a bit.

It's a good car.

He's a bit loose, but in terms of the engine, feels great.

But that's all coming up.

And also that needs an MOT about a week.

So I'm going to get all that done.

And then the Clio, we did the track day.

I smashed it around the track.

Hard on the brakes.

You really were hard on the brakes.

Really was.

And it's been hard on the car, truth be told.

And so, yeah, that's needs.

I put a full new set of tyres on it.

It's had the belts done.

That's all being very expensive.

And now it needs an alignment.

But it just drives awfully.

I'll be honest.

You're not.

Yeah.

You said that early.

You said it's not coming to us with these descriptions.

And we'll say, what do you mean?

It just says, it just drives bad.

It does drive badly.

Like in what?

Like is it?

I'll be talking about steering.

Is it misfiring?

Is it is it driving like it's on the square wheels?

No.

So engine wise.

It just feels like it's bad.

Yeah.

But that's what it does feel like.

It's not easy to describe.

Engine wise, it actually feels stronger than ever

after it's both belts done.

But it's now like the way it drives.

I guess you would call it the chassis

in the silly description.

But it feels like the front is very loose.

It almost feels like when you turn,

the car comes after I turn.

It comes afterwards.

Yes.

So I don't know.

It needs alignment.

It might be that or it might be I'm not going to spend it.

It turns out Ben's doing just backwards entries

into roundabouts.

He's just doing this.

Maybe.

I don't know.

Yeah, that back end just stepping out.

Shall we do a little second channel refresh?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

We're good.

I'd like to do a few things.

I want to get the wheels redone.

I want to do...

I saw.

Now, hold on.

I have a go.

Okay.

Now, I just wanted a quick aside.

You were talking about selling it the other day.

I was.

So I'll get on to that.

I was saying relax the other day.

But I saw an interior of a 180.

I'll see if I can find the photo.

Okay.

Here we go.

And it was a stand interior.

But it's got the really soft woolen cloth.

I don't know if it was re-covered

or it was like I think it was from a normal Clio.

But obviously the same seats.

But wait, is in the seats your car has a cup seat?

Woolen cloth.

But they were like wool.

And they look great.

Wool?

See, that's not...

Not cloth.

Not like fabric-y...

But it was almost like...

It was almost like a Volvo cloth heated seats

with a little bit.

Oh, no.

Have you seen that ever?

But it was on doorcaps.

It was almost the law.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Type B.

Maybe.

But it looked good.

And it was a 182.

Was it just a Mark II?

It was the exact same interior

as what was in my car design-wise.

But it had that different covering.

I thought you know what that looks way better than...

Did you see the...

This is now just Renault nerding at the beginning,

but I thought it was quite interesting.

The V6 we saw, or the Clio...

The Letitia V6 we saw.

Oh, yes.

Radwood slash the Paddock thing in Monterey.

We were walking up to it.

It's a Phase 1 Clio V6,

which should have like pretty basic Clio 172 seats,

basically, which aren't that good.

We were walking up to it and was like,

what the hell are those seats?

They weren't like crazy buckets,

but they just...

They looked custom.

And we spoke to the owner.

What the best part is, I was looking at it,

and the owner then happened to walk up to us and said,

sorry, can you like take my photo with me

and my friend in front of my car?

And I said, I will,

but before that you will tell me about these seats.

And I said, what are these seats?

And yeah, he said that they were an optional extra,

only in Japan, you can get them.

And they were the weirdest looking,

almost like Cobra spec early 2000s.

I'll see if I can find a photo now,

but I don't think I ever will.

I was telling...

I picked up Megane from Beanie Sport,

and obviously they do all things Clio,

they've had V6s and they're all sorts.

And I told him about that,

and he was like, I've never seen that.

The other thing I was thinking afterwards

is that, is it possible it's just a car that's been modified?

And he's been told that.

And you know, it's exactly...

But I couldn't even make out the seat.

No, it's so weird.

It looked factory.

But anyway, that was really cool.

So Ben, I think you do need some seat.

I don't know if I did that in my own car,

but I thought it looked cool.

Anyway, as a side.

Feeling a little bit Chris Harris.

Feeling a little bit Cordroy.

And we love a Cordroy interior.

Black Cordroy interior.

With a little Bass Pro shop logo on the seats.

Oh yeah.

Must be the exact outfit I was wearing yesterday.

I was going to say, yes.

So sorry, it is a room for me,

because of those things.

But on top of that, I went out for a drive in the Clio,

thinking it's not that bad.

The front will be fine.

We'll get it.

You know, I'll be a bit dramatic.

And I went up the hill.

Out of my house.

Shells in the watch.

No, no, no.

That's now probably not going to happen.

Well, no, the event's happening.

Sorry, it's happening.

People who bought tickets, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Sorry.

Me going up the hill in the Clio is probably not going to happen,

because it's now overheating for an unknown reason.

Although we had just overheated once.

Yes.

And then never again.

But you haven't driven it.

I was very annoyed at it.

Parked it up and haven't looked at it since.

Okay.

So I'm going to...

It's like you've got to a scary part of a book.

You just close the book, put it out.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

So that's basically, oh no, it's big or ruined.

And the X5 needs work.

So we need to go off and have the work done.

And then I need to be able to draw the Clio

while the X5 is gone.

I say the Clio.

But I can't do that.

Figure out your overheating issue.

And then I think we can do a spruce.

Yeah, okay.

What do you call it?

A...

No, it's a spring clean.

We're nowhere near spring.

No.

Give it a year, Ben.

And we'll come back around.

Autumnal clean.

Sure.

Why not?

Ready for winter to park it up.

You know.

Get the miles off it.

Let the water in.

Shall we move on to muses and anecdotes?

Yeah, sure.

The last R35 GTR has finally done it.

So 2007 was the first cars built?

Yeah, I think like 0708 is when the first Japanese cars were sort of built.

So we were 18 years in.

18 years?

Yeah.

That is crazy.

Do you want to see more mental?

That car, that car we're looking at right now,

that is a refreshed version,

but that exact car came out when the first iPhone came out.

Wild.

That's kind of crazy.

Also, the GTR came out roughly when YouTube started becoming like launched essentially.

So this car has grown through the social media era.

This is the social media car.

And do you know what?

You know what's interesting?

I think it proves how long in the tooth it's gotten.

I haven't seen anyone that like, it's just,

oh, I lost the details there.

Yeah.

It hasn't been like a man.

Oh, good to see you, man.

Bye.

It's just been a, all right.

Anyway, even though it means a lot to most people,

you've had one of these.

But yeah, I think it's,

I don't think anyone would have cared,

though, if they just carried on making them.

No, exactly.

If they carried on making them,

facing, lifting them, making the interior more modern,

people wouldn't mind about it.

But go, yeah, you know what?

We're kind of lucky it's just still there.

Yeah.

Because the next thing is probably not going to be anything like that.

The thing I, I think about it,

I was thinking about it when we were at what's called RM Sotheby's,

is that the, if you look like 80 spec stuff,

lots of things were around for a long time.

So the, the Tester Rosser in its various guises was around until from,

it's from 84 until 96.

Yeah.

10 years.

I mean, the Kuntash.

Kuntash, the R107 Merc,

which is the, like the blocky 80s one.

Yeah.

That's like, that was like 25 years that was around.

That's mental.

I mean, what Kuntash is what, 60s to the 90s?

Yeah.

Let's have a look.

Kuntash, early 70s to the 90s.

Was 74 to 1990.

That is 26 years.

It's crazy.

I hit me off Rory.

I guess we'll come up with a new car next year.

That's like them.

That is like in, in, in, if you, in terms of sort of car stuff today,

it's like them still making the Mercilago.

Yeah.

Oh man.

Oh, what a terrible.

Isn't it 16 years?

What did I say?

74 to 1990 would be 16 years.

Oh, very apologies.

I thought it was the end of that.

You had the decade.

I did a long time.

It's almost like them stuff.

Similar to this though.

You know, it would be a Mercilago still.

Yeah.

SL was 71 to 89.

That's, that's coming up for 20 years.

So that's a, that's a chunk.

We, come on, let them go.

Now we get, we get a car for like three years.

It's like, like, there was something recently about the stem

potentially stopping making the Supra.

Like, you know, in my head, that thing's been around for six months.

Yeah.

I know it's probably been like five years or whatever,

but that's not that long for a car to be around.

But I think about that as well with like, look at Mark 1 Golf.

Mark 1 Golf spanned a long, old chunk of time.

It feels like the Mark 7 was around for about two years.

Yeah.

Maybe it's just the, the passage of time catching us out.

I think it's more now that I think the car does stick around as long,

but they always rebrand and reach it.

Like the, the golf is underneath the golf is relatively similar.

Yeah, exactly.

Same as like some of the Fords and whatever else.

So the cars do have a 10, 15 year lifespan.

Yeah.

But they change it.

But to be fair, even if you look at,

look at an early Contash compared to a,

Oh, they're very different.

And they're very, very different, but they either change the name or,

and people just, people want new stuff because they're simple.

I imagine if they did it with phones or something,

like here's the iPhone.

See, you wouldn't buy that.

See you in 10 years.

But let's say as an example.

Yes.

I mean, yeah.

Here is the iPhone.

Yeah.

Bye.

You'll get iPhone 2 in 15 years.

It would literally be the case of the iPhone 1 came out when this came out,

and it would now be, we could get an iPhone 2.

Yeah.

We could make another one.

This one's got 600 dollars though.

So this iPhone's, it's a bit quicker.

Tell you what, I wish they'd carry on making it forever.

The more they're out there,

the more the price comes down and the more I can have.

You know what, Ben?

I think that's a car that you will,

I think they are still going to drop more and more.

I have to have many.

There are so many, but I don't know if they will.

But at the same time then, let's say one that's now,

call it the second gen,

whether it's or we're not using chassis codes.

Let's say they come down in price.

If they're the same price as the 30 grand original ones,

no one's going to buy the original 30 grand ones,

because why would you buy one?

So you, they have to get cheaper.

It's true.

Or the base price stays higher for those middle and higher ones,

but I think they will come down.

The problem is at the moment is that obviously,

is that no, you can't really get,

you can't get a new one in the UK.

So you have to go and buy a used one.

So the price of a used one has gone up.

But the problem is no one wants an early one,

because they are, they are old.

They feel older than some of the later ones.

But I don't know, I don't see them.

I know the numbers is the biggest thing that will say

they will drop in price,

but they, they've just held such, such ridiculous value

for so long.

If they were going to come down,

if they were going to come down in price,

that they would have done that by now.

The earliest GTR is how old?

Is 2008.

Yeah.

So a little, what, 17, 18 years, whatever it is.

And they're, you're still paying 40 grand for a good one.

Yeah, for a good one.

Yeah.

The car costs 50k new.

Like inflation doesn't, doesn't matter on the GTR.

The GTR on the Marks RS in, you know,

they do not get affected by inflation.

Inflation.

Forget gold.

Forget any crypto stuff.

Buy yourself a Focus RS.

Better than a pension.

I tell you what, money's all fake.

So just make it up.

Hey, you know what?

Just walk into this and they will say,

look, I'm, I've just made up in my head.

I've got the money.

Can I have one?

Can I have it?

And then, and then my company, as in bank,

will send you a couple of numbers digitally to your numbers.

And we'll call it a day.

And then, well, conspiracy theorist Ben,

and then you put the balaclava on,

you pull the gun out, you say, have the keys over.

That's it.

Sure.

But anyway, what GTR would you have?

GTR, I can never decide.

I don't want a very, very early one,

which you disagree, because you think it's the

it's the the exact experience you want from a GTR.

Whereas the earliest GTR will be, I think,

eventually the most desirable,

because it is, for one of less journalistic tabs,

the most raw version of the GTR.

But why is it more raw?

Because it's got, will I just tell?

You won't be able to tell.

No, no, if you drove a very, very early one,

and you drove one of the most recent ones,

you would be able to tell.

Because the most recent ones, again, I haven't,

there are so many different versions,

but they deliberately made them softer and quieter

and more modern and nicer to be in.

Whereas the original GTR feels like

it doesn't want you to be in there.

It's like, I don't want you to be comfortable.

I want you to drive fast all the time.

Whereas the later ones, they're like,

they have noise-canceling speakers

and stuff like that.

The early cars like, yo, here's a load of data.

And more to 60 or 3.5 seconds.

Let's go.

Plug the PS3 controller in that lets you move

when you turn it.

Let's go.

So I generally think that,

because also they're the ones that have been,

because they've dropped the cheapest.

They've also been modified the worst,

like maintained the worst.

So the amount of them around now are good ones anyway,

are minimal.

I would like either the first facelift.

A DBA.

That's what, yeah, I think.

Or I'd like the 2017 one.

You know, the first proper one.

And the reason for that is because that was that,

again, it's like a Ben Still.

It's what, well, I was in my early teens.

It's the GTR you grew up with.

That's the one.

Meanwhile, we're looking at R34, no, R35.

Wow.

What's that?

How old?

Wow.

I would be R35.

Ken Merrie, that's what I think.

We're looking at Model T.

R34 would be the one I grew up with,

but I still, R35 is my boy.

Okay.

But I would have the newest, newest one.

The look of that was great.

I do like, we saw one.

Did we see one in the UK?

No, we saw it.

It was in America.

On the freeway, on the highway.

Yeah.

That.

With the track pack.

Really nice.

I like that one.

Yeah, we saw the new one.

When?

The facelift one.

Ben, we all had a long conversation.

Not the, I never saw that.

Not the what's called.

So we're talking about the Black One.

With the, I don't know what there are so many versions

out in the US, but they had the Nismo Wales basically.

Not the one that was America only,

that they just finished.

Like the really, the like special one.

It was the last of the big ones.

The Japanese one.

Yeah, not that one.

We didn't see that one.

Sorry, I'm going to pull this up for the viewers.

This is very wonderful.

So the final, like the last Japanese ones,

which is where, because of all the admission stuff,

obviously they started to cull them in,

in lots of, so like, you're getting it America stop.

So that is the very last one.

With the R34 front end.

R34, yeah.

Whereas we saw what I've seen, a 2024 maybe?

Yeah.

Or a 23.

Track edition.

Ooh, just lovely.

Great wheels.

Fantastic wheels.

I'm interested because I thought this was the,

like the only one that they've done recently.

I've only got a photo of a non-colour one

that we saw, but this one.

Apologies, audio listeners.

That's what I want.

That's the one you like.

Yeah, that's the one.

That's what we saw.

That's the 2017 first lift.

Yeah, so that's a, yeah.

Yeah, that's good.

And the interior on that one.

I know it's wrong and you're going to go,

oh, it's not correct because it's brown,

but I like the saddle interior.

God, that's wrong.

The saddle interior on a GTR is great.

I mean, it doesn't make sense.

It's not a car that should have to have interior.

It looks cool.

I want, I want, I want a black exterior.

I want the brown leather interior.

See that in person and tell me that.

It doesn't, it doesn't make sense.

It does.

The issue is, oh, okay.

Okay, fine.

I like it.

Ben looked at it.

A fool.

Ben went, that's disgusting.

I love it.

So yeah, so goodbye GTR.

Goodbye GTR.

See you next time.

Other news is forza.

Yes.

So supposedly we don't,

Ben, is this a little bit of misinformation for you?

Possibly.

Probably.

But from what I've seen is there is a,

was a leak or supposedly a document that was made live

that wasn't supposed to be made live,

which leaked the fact that horizon six forza

is going to be set in Japan.

The thing we've said many times

that it always makes the most sense to do,

but we'll say earlier,

it's still probably going to end up being in

Bulgaria.

Yeah.

It's something completely out of nowhere.

It'll be, all the leaks will say,

that it's going to be Japan or everyone,

like, everyone, like, trust me,

I had no amount of the inside.

And then we'll go, forza horizon six

is coming to Glasgow.

We're going back.

Yeah.

We've already been, but we like going back.

So, I mean, if it is Japan, that it just makes sense.

It'd be interesting.

It'd be good.

Also, but this game that we have,

we do Tokyo Extreme Racer.

Yes.

Which is starting to gather a bit of

momentum as a cool game.

Stuff like that.

Obviously, there must be other people making games

that it's like, yo, if the big dogs ain't

going to do stuff, we're going to make the cool stuff.

So yeah, please don't mess it up if you are

going there as well.

Ben, we have one on here that says Cybertruck L.

Yeah.

Cybertruck L.

Here's what I made earlier.

Can you pull it up for you real quick?

Two seconds.

Oh, just not ready with the news, are we?

Just not prepared for the podcast that we're on

every week.

Correct.

Will, was it your idea to film this podcast today?

Is that of interest?

My idea?

Yeah.

I could have sworn it was,

it was it you that said,

we should just hit, I think,

sort of like a couple of hours ago, Ben was like.

Oh, it was Ben that said we should do a podcast.

He said, don't do a podcast today.

Listen, I couldn't make yesterday

because I was editing.

I'm trying to make sure I don't have again.

You know, we've realized Ben hates guests.

Ben hates me.

I was actually disappointed.

Jack, by the way, you know, you're an incredible guest,

but we can take now as a moment to tell you that Ben

refused to come in if you were here.

He said, he said, is Kav going to be there?

And we said, yes.

And he said, I will not come in.

I hate that guy.

I'm not sure.

I was actually quite disappointed to miss it.

Just like the guy who DMed us and said,

please don't have him on the podcast.

Crazy.

Sorry.

So apparently, Tesla is sitting on $800 million worth of

server trucks because no one's buying them.

Sorry.

As in they have been built and they're ready to go,

or they are in various amounts of production.

They're built.

They are.

So apparently, again, this might be true.

A little bit of information.

But it's when it first came out,

they had a quarter of a million orders

like the first day or something.

Yeah.

And there's that many clowns on Earth.

Circus, perhaps.

Yeah.

So Tesla sold only around 6,400 cyber trucks

in the first quarter of 2025.

Sorry.

If this trend continues, annual sales could fall short

of 20,000 units.

We have 10,000 unsold cyber trucks

with an inventory value of approximately 800 million.

That is, that's a lot of money.

That's a lot of money.

Also, that is...

Sorry.

They've also pulled back like production

for the cyber truck because no one's buying it.

That's crazy.

That is, I mean, I've seen one or two here.

What?

What is it like?

Because some people have brought them over.

But I mean, I've saw them in the US last year

and obviously Moat was sort of a lot of them

in Monterey.

But realistically, we didn't see that many.

I think we saw more hummers than we did Tesla's.

Now let's think about it.

There were, it was a noticeable amount of cyber trucks.

Yeah.

But I would still say, did we not think we saw more hummers?

Yeah, probably.

Which is funny because the cyber truck

has a much bigger hype.

Yeah.

And the hummers much more new.

But that's interesting.

Every time I see one, I cannot see.

I cannot see it.

I don't understand it.

It's one of the worst possible.

You know, when someone does something as a joke,

they do like something a little bit slapstick as a joke.

And it wears after a few seconds, the funniness laugh

wears off and you're just watching someone act like a prat.

That's what they are to me.

Yeah.

It was a cool like Instagram like, whoa, that's really neat.

And then the moment they hit the roads, I start going, all right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

If he'd made it, Elon, as if he did make it,

if they'd made it even bigger and more extreme, but it was like limited.

Yeah.

Exactly.

It was like, there are going to be a thousand of these.

Like the Renault 5e thing.

Yeah.

Like you're going to make some, this is dumb.

We don't know if everyone's going to like it.

Yeah.

Because if you made it like that, made it absolutely like,

because you could make it look like that.

But if there are a hundred of them and they are all absolutely apeshit.

Yeah.

And people might go, you know what?

Cool.

That limited run thing was pretty cool.

Get me a normal one.

Yeah.

But because, yeah.

But I'm interested.

So you said there was a quarter million orders worldwide.

Yeah.

Pre-orders when they announced it.

Okay.

But now, I guess they're assuming some, because they're making like model wise,

they're making a lot of model wise.

It's one of the best selling cars in the world.

So I think they probably thought similar.

But I'm more interested.

Is that, I think, is that maybe because they have lots of export orders?

Whereas I think I haven't seen a Cybertruck anywhere in Europe either.

Well, it's not legal.

But is it not in Europe either?

No, it won't be because it doesn't, it won't follow any European crash stuff

because it's made of solid metal.

It has pointy edges.

So it's just not going to.

So that's nothing to do with the weight.

Because we've had some learnings this week.

Partly, I'm sure it's a multitude of things,

but I think the crash thing is the biggest because it's just,

it's not in a couple zones.

Because we lied.

We almost lied.

We think we lied.

We might have lied.

When we did the Hummer video, which was a few weeks ago now,

we said that legally we cannot drive this car in the UK because of its weight.

And a lot of people in the comments said,

yo, actually there was a change a few years ago,

but they've only just changed it like fully, fully this year.

So you don't need to do a test.

Is that the weight limit to do with your license?

So for reference in the UK,

you get, I think is it a category B license?

Yeah.

It's a regular one.

And that is up to three and a half tonnes.

Yeah.

If you passed it in the last 25 or 30 years.

It's like pre-97, you drive whatever the hell you like, spaceship, whatever.

But for the most of us, youthful folk,

up to three and a half tonnes is the limit.

After that is vans, HGVs, you need a separate license.

But they have since changed that,

that if it is a hybrid or electric,

the weight limit goes up to,

it's either 4.25 or 4.5.

So in theory, Hummer's good for that.

Yeah, because unladen it is 4.1 or something.

So 4.14, but the thing is there are like,

there are like five different figures online.

You could Google it, some people say 4.1, some will say 4.3,

some will say 4.8.

So it may or may not fall in with you.

It was funny enough because we saw people commenting,

getting good fights over it,

and then they weren't able to work out the likes.

So they're like, yeah, no, that is the sort of reply to say, isn't it?

They go, I actually can't find the weight.

So I'm not actually sure.

But yeah, someone needs to, I mean to be fair,

we were sent one for sale.

Yeah.

I pick up.

So someone's doing it.

Someone knows what it falls into.

But yeah.

But yeah, I'm interested to know if that's part of the reason

why they aren't as successful

because no one outside of the US is getting them.

I think possibly that's part of it.

Because like the Model Y is built in Germany partly.

Well, we see in the UK, if I go past the Tesla,

I'll see another one within 20 seconds.

They are common.

So I wonder if that's partly why.

But hey, oh well, take your lumps out for you.

Dumbest car.

Ben, you've put in here buses.

Buses.

I'm sure where we're going with this one.

I was driving home the other night behind a bus.

Oh, thrilling anyway.

Anyway, cool.

Next topic of conversation.

No, I started thinking.

I was like, buses, what engine has that got?

Okay.

And how much power are they making?

Okay.

There's a bus.

A very similar looking bus to what I...

You know what, Ben?

That was a double decker.

I knew it.

I knew what sort of bus you'd be thinking of.

So it was double decker.

I pulled over and I pulled up our mate Chad GPT.

Sure.

We've been chatting to him recently

because they've got a voice function now.

Yeah.

And he'll just talk back to you.

I thought...

The fourth presenter.

I'll have a little chat with him and just ask him.

And he informed me that a bus has only 200 horsepower.

Right.

But does it have 8,000 pounds of torque?

A thousand pound of torque.

That's crazy.

Yeah, of torque.

Oh, I was taking a mic.

From a Cummins v8.

Yeah.

Hell.

Like American truck thing.

You bit your bubby.

So you can make...

Yeah, cam it.

You can make that thing blow some coal out the back of it.

Are there petrol buses?

I don't know.

I didn't ask any more questions.

If any...

Okay, great.

Surely America's running petrol buses.

ChatGPT and Ben, misinformation, pale aid in heaven.

I thought it was very interesting.

We chase him up on it and go, that's not right.

He goes, no, you're right, actually.

That's completely wrong.

I made that up.

Well, speaking of, I actually...

A word of warning if you're using ChatGPT for car stuff.

We...

I was looking up stuff for my E36 because I was doing the rear wheel bearings.

And I said, I can't remember.

I asked about something about the LSD diff, what do you call it?

Capacity.

It started just giving me a random things about like strengthening,

making sure you strengthen.

I was like, hell.

But it said, yeah, you should buy these reinforcement plates.

It's a BMW part number.

Yeah.

I hit my head.

I thought, I'm fairly familiar with BMW E36.

I'm fairly sure BMW don't have an OEM part number.

It read the part number out to me.

I wrote the part number in.

That part number doesn't exist.

So I wrote, I literally wrote to it,

that part number isn't real.

You've made that up.

It responded, mate, you're totally right.

I completely made that up.

I cannot find that part number anywhere on the internet.

It doesn't exist.

But chat GBT, if you're listening and you probably are, just tell the truth.

It's okay to not know.

If you don't know, go, I don't know, mate.

I don't know, mate.

I'm going to go and do my research and ask me again in a week and I'll see what I can do.

But yeah, chat GBT, not always the most trustworthy.

But by the buses, I went to a bus museum.

Oh, such a will cycle.

You saw a Perkins 6.

I wasn't meant to go to the bus museum.

It's Brooklands.

I thought, let me have a look at the bus museum.

Mainly, mainly ingest because buses, to me, they can be funny.

I know there are a few people out there that maybe listeners who are bus spotting and bus

enthusiast, but buses aren't interesting to me.

Yeah.

I went into a bus museum years of buses and I thought, these are buses.

I don't want to do anything more, but I got cornered by a bus man.

Oh, okay.

A man.

I don't know if he calls himself that.

A bus man came up to me and I'm not going to,

I don't want to sound like I'm taking the mic because I'm actually not.

And because he was very lovely and extremely knowledgeable.

I was with my nan and she mentioned that she used to get a bus

in the 70s from this place to this place.

And this guy was a bus driver in a similar era, but in a different place.

And he went, oh, the 81.

He just knew what route it was, even though it was a bus route.

He's never done.

I stood there.

I was like, I don't really want to be here,

but he's also very, very nice and very knowledgeable.

But it made me think of this is what other people think of car people.

Genuinely.

Whenever, that is my first thought.

Whenever I see someone being a massive nerd about something

and you see the people that that person is talking to,

like look across at their friend with a little glance like,

oh, here we go.

All I think is, no, no, that's what we are.

I was like, in my head, I was being horrible in my head.

And I was like, you know what?

No, this guy's very passionate about it and he enjoys it.

And that's how it should be.

He shouldn't feel like he can't be like that.

The way I feel now is possibly the way

everyone else around me feels that's outside of the three people here.

Because equally, you're in a conversation with someone you don't know

and then and they go, oh yeah, my next-door neighbor had in the 80s

a very kind of flash-looking thing that was yellow.

It had like a kind of triangle-looking thing on the back of it.

Oh, you're talking about a 25th anniversary kuntash?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what that will be.

It's the exact same thing as knowing that route.

You know exactly what they're talking about.

Yeah, exactly.

It made me realise for a moment, I was like,

maybe we're all just the same.

Yeah, everyone's just nerds about same things.

Everyone's got a sprinkle of it.

Can't say on the podcast, but we've all got a sprinkle.

Any more bus?

Yeah.

Oh, you've got one more.

Okay.

MPG on a bus.

47.

I'm going to say it is four.

Five.

Five MPG.

That's crazy.

I guess it is a tune coming in.

A tune engine.

Crazy.

What's a gearbox in it?

Do you know what the...

The car's live right now.

So, I reckon it's like a three-speed auto or something.

Now, Ben, hold on.

I'll find out what that was.

Actually, I did learn about gearboxes and bikes.

I don't know what they are.

Wait.

Some of them had automatics, but they're geared for what they do.

So, an about-town one can't go on the motorway.

Shall I ask?

Oh, yeah.

Just a quick question though, Ben.

You know, in rivalries between car manufacturers,

people that owns one don't like the other.

Ford, you know, fix or repair daily.

Instead, it's first time race day.

Do you know what the Dodge versus Ford one is for Cummins?

Or Powerstroke?

We'll let the comments.

Oh, no, I didn't know this.

Yeah, would you like to say it?

No.

Okay, sure.

Have a look in the comments.

Someone will be nice enough to drop it down there.

Shall I ask him?

Yeah.

Are we asking him?

That's completely up to you, mate.

What sort of gearbox does a bus have?

But say in the UK, please.

Hello, mate.

Me and the boys are just having a discussion on the CREAM podcast,

the best podcast on YouTube, about what gearbox a bus has.

Use the Envrio 400 as an example.

So, in the UK, what sort of gearbox does a typical bus have?

I think it's an Enviro.

Absolutely.

So, for something like the Enviro 400 in the UK,

you're typically looking at an automatic gearbox.

Most modern buses use fully automatic transmissions

to make the driving smoother and easier for drivers in city traffic.

So, that's what you'd find in Enviro 400.

Now, hi, sorry.

Now tell me, are we rocking a DCT?

Are we rocking a standard torque converter?

Or are we rocking, perhaps, a CVT?

So, for a bus like the Enviro 400,

you're usually going to be rocking a traditional

torque converter automatic.

They keep it pretty straightforward and robust.

No DCTs or CVTs in the mix for these big guys.

It's all about durability and smooth shifts for city driving.

Lovely.

No crispy down shifts on the bus.

Do you know what Ben might have found the hack

to avoiding misinformation, Ben?

Is that he can give it to Chad instead.

Since I found this feature, I have been sessioning it.

I've been in my house.

I just shout on my phone.

I go, tell me this.

It goes, mate, the Enviro 400 has got a torque converter

the size of a planet.

I'm enjoying abusing it.

I've now decided that if it comes around, they take over.

I might be on the top of the block first.

You want to live as you live.

You know, you're going to stand a business till the end.

They're going to come for me and say, you were rude.

Gloss, I have a lady voice on mine.

I'm very rude to her.

I'm very blunt.

Because she hasn't got feelings.

Last night I told it, I said thank you to it and told it

that I appreciated its answer and it was really happy.

I thought you were going to say that you loved it.

And before you're going to sleep, you said night night to it.

To be fair, we did see a lot.

I think it was at Monterrey.

He started asking it a text question.

And you said, please, can you keep a big fly saying,

I chat GBT and please, can you do it?

I always say, please do it.

Because, yeah, we said, I know you're really busy

with lots of people's stuff right now.

But if possible, could you just have a go at this?

I've just had a look up then.

To further to expand, we've got a, it comes with a full speed, a ZF5HP.

It's a 5HP502, which I don't know if that's related to anything.

It's just weeping from the sun.

A ZFECO life, six speed, or a BAE systems hybrid drive.

A BAE system.

Yeah.

It also doesn't make them making like the Eurofighter

and submarines and stuff.

Also, I didn't know that it had a government name

because it's the, the Enviro 400 is made by, you see it on the front.

It's Dennis.

But it actually has a government name.

Okay.

It's called the Alexander Dennis Enviro 400.

Alex Dennis.

His name is Alex Dennis.

Now that was just the bus.

The reason I asked it about that was because it,

that was the one that I was driving behind before I asked.

That's the classic.

For example, with me being nice chat GPT,

he answered me a question the other day and I responded

because it transcribes it.

I said, nice man.

Yeah, I really appreciate that.

Ben's safe.

Ben is, Ben is, they're going to keep Ben as a pet.

They're going to come and get him and go, what are the policies?

That's not even why I'm not, I'm not, that's not what I'm doing.

I'm doing it because it sounds so human

that I feel bad if I'm mean to it.

Fair, to be fair, I'm pretty, I'm pretty similar.

I'll hit with a, thanks mate, have a good one.

I have to remind it what it is.

It's a robot.

So have you got, have you got a little?

You know, I couldn't.

I think, I think we might add that as a little section.

We might do a little question to Chad each week and we'll fact check him.

Do you know what?

Maybe we'll give, we'll train him.

We will give chat GPT a forum question.

Whenever we get the forum.

Yeah.

Chat GPT also has a forum question.

Now if anyone wants Chad to answer, also a side note,

my, my chat GPT, I've made it memorize that it is now known as Chad.

Of course.

Now it refers to Chad.

But anyway, in the comments, if you want to ask a forum to chat GPT,

please write Chad's forum question and I can search for it on YouTube

and we'll have a look at more trial next week.

Lovely.

It's also completely off-ass at that point as well.

Yeah, exactly.

What we got next?

We've got, there's a very quick one here, a photo from Hacks Lava Lava.

Hello, mate.

A familiar name.

Hello, mate.

Some of you may know.

I see you laser.

But you sent me this photo.

I can't remember exactly where it was.

Two boats.

Where it was, he said he was.

But he was away.

He said he was going away somewhere in the UK, found some parking spaces

that, you know, when they say they might be a disabled bay

or they might say doctors only, perhaps.

So that's where I park?

Where you, no, you'd park all like just in front of it.

So they just in front of it.

Yeah, they can't ever, or they can't be.

Great.

But he discovered.

It says TDC only.

What?

I can't, I can't pull it up.

Why can't I pull it up?

T, does that legit?

It legit says TDC only.

There you go.

Up on screen right now.

It says TDC only.

What does that mean?

I don't know.

I think, you know what?

My actual belief is that he wouldn't have painted that.

TDC only.

Now, you know, what it could mean.

I'm really, I really have no idea.

Also, look, we've actually just doxxed Alex Lava.

His shadow is there in the bottom street.

Please don't track him down from this.

He's human.

He's a vigilante.

He goes off and makes these videos on his own dime.

So, you know, let Gotham have the hero it needs.

And I won't tell you the location of that photo

of where he is holidaying or has been holidaying.

Someone's going to know where that is.

What does TDC mean?

Other than top dead center, of course.

Exactly.

TDC to...

I'm going to assume the C is car or cars.

Okay.

How do you know that?

Because of parking space.

You know what?

It's a parking space for a place.

Do you know what we should say off?

What we believe TDC stands for originally is two dumb

and then you can fill in the blacks.

That's what we will and I refer to ourselves.

Seas.

Two dumb seas.

But anyway, that was a great spot.

We may have to go and find...

I think it's like all the way, it's far away.

I'm not saying where.

Hey, you know what?

For a little road trip, for a little place to end that.

Also two spaces.

Turns out one car's there.

Get out.

Move.

It's literally for us.

Name's on the door, buddy.

Edwin, you've put in here.

Lanona need for speed.

Yes.

So, I was doing what I do,

which is looking at random bits of car media.

And there is a classic need for speed hot pursuit.

Is it 2012?

I think it's 2012.

Need for speed hot pursuit.

They did a promotion for it,

which featured a Zonda Chinqui

and a Mercy Largo LP640 police car

chasing each other up a mountain.

I will now put it on screen for you

if you haven't seen it before.

This was done as a promo for the need for speed

that was coming out at the time.

And this was not rendered.

This is not game footage.

That is a real Pagani Zonda Chinqui

and Mercy Largo LP640 police car,

except it's not.

Because while I was watching it,

there was a behind the scenes video

that's really cool.

Also, all of these drifts are real.

Where they said,

oh, yeah, we spoke to Pagani

and they built us this Chinqui

as a prototype for the thing.

And I thought, that's, hold on.

Zonda prototype.

You know the story,

but there is a very cool story

about the Pagani Zonda.

When the Pagani Zonda was first built,

first chassis got crash tested.

Here's one I made earlier.

Then you reckon you can repair that

a bit more armstrong style?

Yeah, you've got to bend that wing back into place.

Done, exactly.

So that car was lost.

Great wheels.

Number two.

Yeah, those are those eds on the early prototype ones.

That's fantastic.

They then took second chassis

and the second chassis became

the test bed for everything.

So here is so like C12, C12S,

what sort of stuff.

This was the F prototype.

They then took this car, the F prototype,

when the Chinqui was being developed

and turned it into the car

that was driving around on need for speed.

So that's the exact car?

It's the exact car.

Wow.

And apparently it wasn't full Chinqui spec

at the time it just looked like it.

They then carried on testing

all the trickle or stuff on it

and so it looked like this.

And this is where Will and I knew this car

because that car is referred to as La Nonna,

which means grandmother in Italian,

because every part ever other than the Zonda R

was tested on this exact chassis

like for development

and it had one million kilometers on it.

It had 630,000 miles or so

and so once it hit the mill,

Genuine.

Genuine, they might now everything's been changed,

the engine's been swapped out,

but they kept that cluster

that said the mileage on it,

the total bit.

And at the end of it,

they then restored it

and that's what sits in like Pagani's

in their small.

They have a big,

because you've been to the big one, right?

Yeah.

They have it on like a platform.

The modern thing.

I think it still lives in the old one now,

which is the little original thingy.

They bring it in and out for special occasions,

but that car is the same one from Need for Speed

from the cover,

from the game,

the one in the videos

and it's also the one

and it does a very cool Chme video

where he gets driven in it

and yeah, they drive it like a Tesco.

It's quite interesting.

That is cool.

They pull up to a junction

and there's just clearly about an outmarks

of a junction

and the test driver goes the exact same way

and does the exact same burnout.

Yeah, that is just that

in the Pagani Museum,

which is like a shop

and a few other bits as well.

Also a genuine recommendation to go there.

I would really want to go.

They do a factory tour,

which normally,

I always find factory tour stuff

or like tour stuff like that.

It's normally quite boring

or it's information.

I probably already know,

but the Pagani one is really cool

because they have someone

who really knows what they're doing,

doing it

and also they make you put your phones in a locker.

They can't take photos

because it's the factory

that's where they're building stuff.

You with your Ray Bang glasses.

You could do that.

I might have to go back.

I'd really like to go over,

but it's cool.

I still would like us to buy

two cheap Tallinn cars

and try and make it

to the Pagani factory

or the Ferrari factory

without doing anything to it.

They have the original,

what's it called?

Something not an enclave.

Yeah, what's the carbon oven?

I think it is an enclave.

Is it?

It's a something clave.

Autoclave?

I don't know.

It might even be that.

But anyway,

where they made the carbon,

but they've still got the original one

from original Zonda stuff,

which is smaller.

Yeah, it's a really, really small

and then they've got other rooms

with massive ones in there.

There's also a man who worked for them

who's surname was Ferrari,

but unrelated.

They just keep on payroll just to...

Mate, what's going on over at your parents' house?

Just out of interest.

Just checking.

What are they making over there?

Is it that Ferrari?

But that, yeah.

But that is just,

I love that car anyway.

Lenona is something I always want to see

and then I just have to find out this week

that it is also the car from the need for speed video

and game and cover and XXX.

I wonder if he's been offered money.

Surely he's been offered money.

Oh, someone, some guy.

It must be the same guy that has the

Huayra R converted.

He must have gone because...

Chinkwe is a worth a lot.

That's five.

Well, I mean, this is...

So this, I believe now,

the spec it's in is 760 spec,

which is the later one,

but it still has the Chinkwe top roof,

the vents.

There's lots like nods back to the old stuff

because it doesn't have the weird,

smiley face on the front bumper.

I do remember hearing somewhere that

Horatio Pagani has one of the Chinkwe's.

Really?

And he was offered a lot of money for one of them

because obviously there are five.

Yeah.

Or is it five coupes?

Five coupes.

Yeah, which is surprising,

but I feel like they're a less.

The thing I remember is there's two white ones.

There's two orange and then some other colors.

Yeah.

But apparently he got offered a lot of money for that.

That might be wrong.

That could be a little bit of misinformation,

but if it is one that he owns,

someone who was like,

I want the Alfa one of five,

I want the Horatio Pagani red one.

It's like the McLaren F1 GT,

which is the ultimate McLaren F1.

It's the long tail race car,

but road car.

They only made three of them.

One is in, oh, where is it?

Where might it be?

Oh yeah, Brunei.

One is in, well, was in Japan.

And then the other one is the factory prototype one.

And that is like, I ain't going anywhere.

That is staying in Wulking.

Hey, just McLaren, if you just,

you know, just like to have never had an invite.

Sorry, sorry we will come over.

So we've got some other bits to go through,

but we're going to move on to a section we love.

And we've done it a couple,

we've done it once, I think before.

It's car sounds.

There's no name for it yet.

We're calling it car sounds.

Car sounds, actually guess the car sounds.

Oh, yeah, that's a little bit of evil.

I think it's because you're going to play some car sounds.

And we and the listeners and watchers at home will be guessing.

No cheating.

And also this is, we said to Ben before,

don't make them too hard,

because I know the gauntlet has to usually be set for us.

This is where we get all of them wrong anyway.

But this is for you to learn at home.

We'll talk about what we're picking up with our ears.

I still want to do a section on a podcast,

somewhere where we do about 20 of them.

We just, maybe a half podcast,

a little fun thing.

We just do loads of them.

But on this occasion, we're doing three.

Is it a bit like we're doing class outside that day?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or I'm with the teacher roles of TV.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

It's the Africa special,

but it's just car sound special.

Give me two seconds.

Oh, here we go.

I think that one was you tapping in your phone.

Okay.

Well, right now I'm just watching an Oral B ad.

Okay.

I think that's a toothbrush.

I wouldn't have got that one, if I'm honest.

Sort of electric toothbrush.

Yeah, yeah, sounds exactly how you'd imagine.

Are you ready?

This is number one.

Here we go.

Number one.

Play it for in your mic.

What is it?

For the, I almost told you.

Something American.

Yeah.

There's no gear change there.

That makes it a little bit harder.

Gear change is always something you can use to

I thought you guessed that immediately.

Now, there's a conversation we had earlier.

Yeah, that's what makes me think that.

Is it something with a 5-7 Hemi?

A Dodge.

I think it's Mustang based.

Okay.

It's Mustang.

I'm going to say modular, like a, what's called, like a 4GT style, 4-6.

I want to guess, I don't like it.

I don't like your face.

It's generally all good.

Because I just generally, I don't want to say it's a charger,

but like a 5-7.

Okay.

I'm sorry, a challenger.

It's a C6 Corvette.

God damn it.

You know what, now hold on.

I do want to say, you've thrown us off there

because that's, we were talking about them earlier.

That's why part of the reason I was like, he wouldn't do that.

Show me the show.

It's like, I can't look good eyes.

Now is the fact, is the exhaust standard?

No, of course not.

No, that was a stipulation.

It's going to make the engine louder.

You should know that.

No, Ben.

Ben, we've talked about this multiple times.

No.

An exhaust, one exhaust can make a car sound completely different

from another exhaust.

You need, now what are you talking about?

L, you're on.

No, that's fine.

I'll take the other one.

But the cars have to have stock exhausts.

I can't control that.

Yes, you can.

By your little fingers.

Tapping little me.

No, because you guys will guess anything.

You were in that room over there and you guessed a 488

driving on the road out there.

Because I had a stock exhaust.

No, difficult one.

No, no, no.

Let's run the next two.

Because a stock exhaust can change it.

We'll play the Mercilago earlier.

You could have given me 100 years

and I wouldn't have got that was a Mercilago.

It would have sounded broken.

Well, then you don't forget the game, are you?

Because it's not going to be 100 years.

We're doing three cars.

It's fair.

Joe, in the future, I'll think about it.

Okay, great.

Noted.

It's fair.

See me after class.

His next one.

Number two is...

This will be an engine swap or something.

Yeah.

It will sound like a motorbike.

That was actually the Dennis in Viratio.

These guys just, they go wrong.

Fair, actually fair.

It's 458.

Yeah, I'd probably say 458.

It's like again, modified.

Is it in the Monaco tunnel?

Is that in there?

Yeah, that's the Ferrari V8.

That's a 458.

Is it in the Monaco tunnel?

Hold on.

There's a 458 in the market.

I'm not going with the first rule

because it's just stupid of a way.

It's not fun.

Also, the amount of times I've heard M5s

revving in that tunnel,

I'm fairly sure I just know the resumments

of the tunnel.

That's why modified stuff is more fun for me.

Next up.

Because you'll get it otherwise.

This is our final one.

Here we go.

Three's not enough.

Because we've got one.

Shall I pick two more?

Okay, sure.

Go on.

GSP there.

V10.

Viper.

That's what you get.

Keep that guy up.

One more play for you.

Now, hold on.

Now, he's manual because he put it neutral.

Yeah, that's a Viper.

Ortex can go into neutral.

I think, yeah, but harder than just sticking your foot in.

I think it's either going to be a Viper

or it's like a G-Power M5,

like, you know, when they bought them out.

But I think you're right.

I'm saying that's a Lazier V10.

I'm saying a Viper.

Yeah.

You got half point.

What?

It's a Viper ACL.

Yeah, but okay.

All right, fine.

Okay, fine.

But there's a difference between

a C6 Corvette and a like a Z06 or a Z01.

Of course.

But there's the same engine in the A-Sale.

Pull up your next two, Mr. Ref.

Same engine in the C6.

It's not.

I don't know what they are, so give me a second.

I'm going to demand to see the raw file of that C6 clip.

I do get it.

There was something off about it.

Yeah.

About what?

Why did it have...

It's a Coyote.

So why did it have a CVT spec launch?

I've got to think of it.

I've got to think of the A-Number 2 car.

Ben, think of a car.

You can think...

You're surrounded by cars every day.

You can think of a car off the top of your head right now.

Just think of a car.

We're more than happy to pause.

But it's going to be a car that you're not going to...

Okay, we'll pause.

Deck cut from here until cars.

Next time you see us, there'll be cars.

We're back.

We have two more cars.

I'll be honest with you.

It's not my finest work.

I didn't have time.

Okay, sure.

It's been possibly a minute since our last conversation

with the Cremus.

To cut back on its night time outside.

Okay, here we go.

First car.

Here we go.

And you're going to get it right.

Because you guys are car guys

and you would never get one wrong.

Of course.

Apart from a Corvette C6.

Now, I think I know what you're trying to do here.

I think you want us to say that that is a...

Play it again.

I know that noise.

Yeah, it's just there.

It's a Corvette C6.

I think you're trying to throw us off

and say that it's a Ferrari V8 flat plane,

but it's a Corvette.

Corvette C8.

It's too quick shifting as well.

C8 Corvette as well.

Locking in.

Just that?

Yeah.

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

What you say?

It's a Zano 6 actually.

So it's a ZR1.

Look, it's a C8.

I'm going to say, all right, it's a ZO6 C8.

It's a ZR1 C8.

Okay, cool.

But I thought I might throw you off

because I didn't know if you'd know about that.

No, there's something in there.

I thought you'd be cocked in on the C6

which you weren't.

And you were on the C8, which confused me.

From a nerd's point of view,

it's not a recognisable noise,

but it doesn't sound like the Ferrari V8.

It doesn't sound like the McLaren V8.

And then after that, well, there are others,

but they're the big ones.

There is a little bit of a tangent.

There's a drive-thru video that just went out

where they drove the Caparo T1,

the classic top-gear car.

And what I didn't know about it,

I'm sure they said it in period,

but it went through my eight-year-old skull

and out the other side,

was that it was an Indy car, VHR,

which is a Nissan V8.

But that is what McLaren used to develop their 4-litre V8.

Riccardo.

Yeah.

And it does a pull.

It's literally a McLaren 4-litre V8.

Just going bam, bam, bam.

Because it's the base of that is R390.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Which is cool.

People just hearing numbers being spoken.

Yeah, apologies.

Now, fifth and final.

Fifth and final.

I was actually recommended this video just now

whilst I was looking for other ones.

So you just got hit by the algorithm.

You got hit by the algorithm when Chad said your next one.

Chad said, have this on me, mate.

That's...

Now, I was going to say, it sounds like a Ferrari V12.

I think it is like an FF.

Yeah.

Can you run it back, please, one more time?

Sure.

Because it's quite slow revving.

No.

That's a 296.

Oh, interesting.

Is he now...

Look, I'm going to lock it in because it's a V6.

Because if you hadn't said that, I would have carried on and said it was a V12.

So I'm going to say it was a V12 because I wouldn't have got that.

I was about to say a mirror, but they don't do a DC...

Like a dual clutch version.

Hit it one more time.

One last time for the whole...

For the creamers.

Yeah.

You're right.

It is a V6.

I'm going to say that.

My guess is 296.

It's a V6.

Or an F80, maybe.

You know what?

I'm going to abide by what I would have said first and foremost,

which is a V12.

I think you're right.

It's a V6.

I'm going to say it's an FF.

You must come to an FF.

Piccolo V12.

290.

Or an F80.

I don't know.

F12 TDF.

F12.

Interesting.

Okay.

Because I don't...

Man, that's so annoying because that was my first thought,

but it was there's something...

Is it aftermarket?

It is, isn't it?

No.

All right.

Okay.

Hey, you know what?

We'll come back stronger next week.

Do you know what?

Three out of five.

I expected more from you.

You can do better in class.

Fair.

Five completely understandable.

I'm going to say the examples you gave for Paul.

Okay.

I'm going to rate the teacher.

I'm going to give you a one out of five.

Why? Sorry.

Three out of five.

On the spot, I count the five ones

and you only got three of them right.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, we'll see you next week.

Yeah.

A quiz of a car guy.

Anyway, one thing I want to mention about these car videos you will see,

why is it that when you look at a car video of a sound,

there are 45 to 50 seconds of nothing happening at the very start of it.

I find it so frustrating.

Because I guess if you're...

Especially if you're doing it because you're a car spotter

and you're trying to build the following.

Having videos that are four seconds long doesn't probably...

It's better for people who are searching it.

But in reality, you're probably not earning anything.

You're not putting mid-rolls in 48 seconds.

But also a lot of them are.

A lot of those videos, they aren't from...

They're not from creators.

No, you're looking at it from a what we do point of view.

But this is a guy who's gone,

I spotted a Lamborghini yesterday.

I'll chuck it up on YouTube.

Then show me it from the start.

Well, I don't want to see a Lamborghini arriving half an hour before it's here.

This guy probably works in tech or IT.

Yeah.

You should know how to operate a phone.

You can cut the first part out.

To be fair, I've been doing research on Ferrari 550 exhaust.

And there's a video on YouTube that's called Ferrari 550 Start Up and Revs.

And it's literally the car starting up.

It's like a, again, a minute, one minute video.

It takes 20 seconds.

It starts the car.

Then five seconds later, he goes to put it in gear and it goes...

That's it.

That's the end of the video.

Do you know how angry I was?

For the first time, I think in maybe 10 years,

I thought about leaving a dislike because I was like, are you joking me?

That's the definition of clickbait right there.

It got me.

I don't understand it.

Like when this car comes towards you as well,

you hear the induction.

Well, you can't even hear the induction.

You can just see a speck in my distance.

Like if it's our early morning cold start,

I don't want to hear your alarm clock go off and then you get out of bed

and walk down the stairs, have a cup of tea, walk out to the front.

I want to hear the car rev.

A question for you.

We talked about this before other than the Zondra or Bozzi video.

What's a car video?

And you can't say mercy logo.

What's a car sound video?

Because the one that I think of pretty often,

I can't remember if it's a DT Rockstar video,

but it's a Tuscan video in Holland.

And they, it's the 355 that goes and the Tuscan goes

and it lets off and it goes.

That will pop into my head.

I'd say at least once a week since I've been 10.

There's a million mercy logo ones.

I've got to load it from my YouTube in like 2007, 2008.

I've got a, like, they're like a playlist.

I made a playlist.

Yeah, I've got to go back through them.

And some of them I just haven't seen in God knows how.

There's a really low res one of a sort of slightly beigey,

goldy, brown 6.2 mercy logo.

And a man shouts in what sounds like Italian angrily.

And then the car just goes one, bam.

And then it just takes off and leaves this massive set of 11s.

I found it like a few weeks ago.

Okay, I haven't not seen this video in about 15 years.

If I go to the bottom of my lights, like things,

there's a lot of 350 Z ones, I remember.

Like Ingen, or N1 exhaust, stuff like that.

Go going to the bottom of my lights.

There's a long, long way of it.

Do you know what the go to ones in terms of a core exhaust video memory?

Anything crisis?

Yeah, anything.

Yeah, we've talked about it before.

It might be the famous.

The, there was the Koenig car that had the pricing on it.

The first, the first video I have on my liked videos is Lamborghini Aventador sound and exhaust

flame that was posted 13 years ago.

And it is, it is the orange.

It is an orange.

It's Aventador dot.

But with silver wheels, not black wheels, kind of weird.

So we will return next week, but please put some, put some of your favorite car sounds

we think we've done up before, but your videos, maybe you link them, talk about.

Yeah, actually, no, don't do that because put everyone in the comments.

Leave the free podcast, send them to Ben.

Do you know what?

Ben's the end is about to be flooded with links.

Do you want to save me some time?

So just be careful of just don't open all the links.

Don't open all the links.

If it says Pen Island, don't click that one.

What does that mean?

No, don't worry about it.

If it asks for an age verification, please click on it.

I'm too young.

But you can't get in.

Yeah.

Do we have anything else?

There's a couple of other things.

Actually, I wanted to mention this.

This was from the comments of Humber Video, EV charging people.

Oh, Will's been very upset about this.

All of you proved your point.

Yeah.

You proved your point, but you also proved our point is we've said that it's complicated

and it shouldn't be complicated.

And all of the EV charging people said,

actually, you were using the AC DC 379 adapter, not the 757 DC 7C adapter.

You stupid idiot.

That's why we couldn't have medium-fasting, ever-fast charging.

What the frigging heck?

When I go to a petrol pump, some pumps might go slower than the others.

Yeah.

But they all go roughly at a similar pace.

I don't ever turn up to it unless it has run out of petrol or has run out of diesel.

I'm pretty good at any petrol station.

I don't go there and they go, oh, wrong nozzle, mate.

Yeah.

No, you leaf.

Get out.

You cannot be here.

Also, this one, just for Renault's.

Yeah.

This way, you cannot use this.

On this pump, you'll be 45 minutes filling this up.

EV charging people and EV people are some of the saddest people alive.

No.

Hang on a second.

No, no.

Because Renault...

Ben is a sympathiser.

Yeah.

I actually agree with you to a point about the charging.

But I also...

You don't understand it, so it seems crazy.

It's the same thing.

No, it's not that.

As to why...

So, yesterday, I was looking at doing some stuff, my Clio.

Hear me out.

I was looking at type D, type E, cool.

Yeah, but that is totally different.

But normal people don't have to do that.

Of course they do.

No, they don't.

All types in their cars.

No, they take it to a person.

No, you've got to top it off.

But this is unique to know this to even use the car.

That is like saying, to operate the vehicle on my driving test,

they're going to ask me to get a gearbox out of a 182.

I don't agree.

Because in that case, then your phone...

No, no, don't give me that.

Don't give me that.

Different charges.

Your phone comes with a charger.

Correct.

Your phone comes with a charger and where do you plug that into?

Okay, here is an example of what that's like.

It's like, here's your phone charger, mate.

It's got five little prongs in it.

It doesn't fit in your wall.

It only fits in five walls in all of the country.

But some of the walls in your house, they'll have different ones.

That's not true.

And you'll finally get the right plug.

You plug it into the wall and your house goes,

no, mate, can't do that.

Because every EV comes with a charger with a three-pin plug.

Okay, but the charger that came with the Hummer

wouldn't plug into wall chargers.

Which one?

Is that correct?

Well, the adapter.

Yeah, you need an adapter.

But that adapter also doesn't work

with some plugs.

Yeah.

Yeah, but that's like saying, oh, well, my lightning adapter

for my iPhone doesn't fit with your USB-C thing.

No, no, because that's not the thing.

The lightning adapter is the car itself.

No, the phone is the car itself.

It's the other end of it.

But it's the other end of it.

Why can't I plug my thing into your thing?

But if I said to my grandmother,

oh, yeah, no, you need a USB-A cable there.

You need a USB-C.

What's she doing?

She's transferring footage?

She's an editor.

I'd love that.

I'll be telling you a lot of time.

She goes out, she buys a phone.

Correct.

Grandma Rogers buys a phone.

Grandma is buying a phone.

She has bought my phone.

She's bought an iPhone on her simple son's recommendation.

Fine.

I'm not her son.

So sad.

That's all I've got, son.

You're dad.

So crazy.

It's also Ben's dad who listens to the podcast,

just catching black for no reason.

Sorry, mate.

Forget the family relations.

A woman has bought an old lady has bought an iPhone.

An old lady has fallen into the river in Lego City.

It comes with a charger, right?

She hasn't got to worry.

She hasn't got to go,

oh, is this an ARC or a Type D or whatever?

It plugs into the wall.

But that's fine.

Pause.

Wait.

No.

Because that's then like saying,

okay, your phone's coming with a charger in the box.

That's great.

But I'm now going to borrow Will's charger

to plug it into my phone.

No, no, no, no.

No, not the case.

Yeah, of course.

Because the Hummer is a super charger

plugging into a Hummer.

Hold the phone.

Quite literally.

That's what we're trying to do.

I don't know.

But what I'm saying is,

is that I know this is almost true,

but not really true.

It's like, I take that charger,

which fits in every plug in the wall.

Have you ever plugged your phone in

and it's gone?

Can't charge it in, mate.

It is not possible.

You cannot charge it because,

because the AC, AC DC on plane,

that's not what we're dealing with,

is the one that goes into the car.

Or you plug it in.

You're not talking about that.

We are.

We're talking about the fact that

I plug a car in.

I have an electric car.

I plug the car in

and then the charger says to me,

you can't.

You can't charge that.

You plug your phone in and it goes,

mate, if you go to the kitchen,

that's going to be much quicker.

No, no, wait.

No, no, that's wild again.

Because that's like saying,

okay, I'm going to take an iPhone charger

from 20 years ago or 10 years ago

and I'm going to expect to charge

as quick as my current iPhone charger.

But now it's related to fuel.

The technology has it advanced.

You can't expect them to just replace

all the chargers, the second that.

But now when it's related to fuel,

when I go to a petrol station,

no one ever says,

brother, you can't fill up with this petrol.

That's fair.

But you can't in some cars.

Like what?

Like, you can't put E10 in all cars,

can you?

Because they're old.

Yes, you can.

You shouldn't because it's bad for the car.

But you can.

But you shouldn't.

But you can't.

But you're recommended to not do it.

But I still can.

Of course you could.

But in a pickle.

If I go a pickle, I've got five miles of range.

I'll wax it into my hummer

and I've made the port bigger

and the other charger could fit in it.

Then it would go in the car.

It doesn't mean it's going to not mess the car up.

But this is what I'm saying.

Ben is actually an electric car.

No, I'm not.

I'm just saying that this argument is stupid

because you don't understand.

No, okay.

And you do I.

Okay, as someone on the other side,

I can understand where you're both going

with both arguments.

You're saying that it is a hardware issue

that will be overcome in time

and it will be generalized

and everything will make sense.

That's fine.

And I think that can be overcome.

But what will not be overcome

is me turning up to a charger

and there being three other people there

and they're now going,

enjoy a half as fast charge.

That's completely fair.

Because someone commented and someone said,

I don't know, there was a comment saying like,

obviously that happens with petrol cars.

You go there and there's different prices

in different days because we said

it gets more expensive.

That's not the point.

The point is if I turn up to a petrol pump

and there are four other people using the pump,

my pump doesn't get more expensive

or take longer to fill up.

Also, yes, prices change.

They do not change by the hour.

Sometimes they might change maybe by penny or two.

They do not change.

Literally, we look to that Tesla graph.

It almost changes by 50%

throughout the day.

How much it costs.

And then probably that variation,

it says 50p per kilowatt.

I don't know what the hell a kilowatt

in relation to fuel to like a liter or something.

But by the way, whatever it is,

I would say I'm relatively tech savvy

and it's there are so many different ways to do it.

It's like, oh, you need an app.

Needing an app to fill up.

Tell me that isn't horse manure.

But you need an app if you don't have.

I only need the app once.

No, but also you're using Tesla.

I'm not defending it,

but the Tesla thing,

and I will admit this,

the Tesla way of filling up a car is good.

You have, you first of all,

set up on your screen, your car.

Hold on.

Sorry, just a quick side.

This is the best way of doing it.

First of all, step one.

It's never good if it starts with a step one.

On your car screen or the app or whatever,

you connect your card to your car.

Okay, so car knows this is your card.

Okay, then walk up to Tesla Supercharger.

You pick up the charger,

you put it in your car.

It locks in and starts charging.

Here's the best way.

It locks in.

Here is the best way.

The best way is I pull up.

Hang on, it starts charging.

It starts charging.

At the end of the charging, I pay.

Which is actually what happens.

You take the thing out of it

and then it clicks into your car.

Do I need to use my phone?

No.

No one to set up for the first 30 seconds

of the first time you charge you do,

and then you plug it into the car

and I will admit that's a good system.

With the Hummer, it was not a good system, right?

But that's because you're using charges

that aren't fit for your car.

But surely you would admit,

because you were there with us,

that we tried to not use Tesla stuff.

The only one we could get to do Tesla stuff

to get to charge the car quick enough.

And someone commented and said

there was a fast charger two minutes away

from where we were.

We looked on the map multiple times.

We tried everywhere around.

The only one we could get to work

was the Tesla one.

So we were locked on that one.

But we didn't.

We tried to go with another one.

It was fooled.

There were three charges

and he said he will be there for 45 minutes.

That's fair.

Do people not value their time that much?

They go, I want to have this electric car

because I hate my family.

I hate free time and I hate hobbies.

Well, actually, you could argue

that he was having a good family time

because he had a family in the car with him.

Oh, that's true.

In their very first family time,

they got a little dry phone

and then they went and sat there and waited.

The American dream.

Listen, sign me up.

Because I will say, I think I'm in the middle.

I'm probably leaning towards the

I don't like electric car side.

I'm not the I hate them all.

I want them off the road.

I don't care.

I will not have one

because I don't like them much.

I hate them.

But the Hummer, if that charged well,

if I had a charger at home,

I'd have the Hummer.

I really honestly would.

Also ridiculous because that

the comment section was 50%.

You're being paid to say this.

And then the other 50% was,

this is an electric car.

I'm not watching this.

You socialist pig.

What are we talking about, man?

Also, we were not paid to do it.

Why?

If we were paid to do it,

why would GMC not provide a car?

We rented that car.

We talked about this in the last podcast.

I wasn't here for that.

I'm a huge hater of electric cars,

especially after I've run over the Renault 5 thing.

I'm not, I'm not sorry.

I'm not a sympathiser of this.

You are.

No, I'm just trying to show another angle

of the part of it could be

because you don't understand.

The fact that it isn't easily available

to fill up in like an emergency is

and then you have then further to drive that.

Which has never experienced it

in a fuel cut, in a petrol diesel powered car

that you have a possibility

that a petrol station is shut

or they're refuelling or whatever is.

But that is, I would say,

a handful of times in my time driving.

It sounded like a hand.

Yeah, I did.

I heard that too.

Also, deck leave that in.

But the thing I had with the Renault 5,

which I genuinely, and again,

I can't charge it at home.

That is one thing I will say.

I can't charge it at home.

It's cheaper and more efficient

to be able to charge at home.

But at the same time,

not everyone can charge at home.

Exactly.

I don't think it's a valid argument.

Is that that time I went to go and pay it at Tesco's

and it went, oh yeah, you have to download the app.

I know you've downloaded that.

Now you need to make an account.

And now you've made an account.

Now you can pick the pump,

pick the thing and then it still didn't work.

That's fair.

Yeah, how frustrating that is as a user.

But also, as one of the most expensive purchases you make

doesn't work properly.

But realistically, if you live in the US,

most people probably could charge it

where we were.

Of course.

Because most houses, that sort of thing.

And equally, like it's a rental.

Like we, the person who owns that car

has one at home.

It's the equivalent of every single morning

getting in your petrol car and the tank is full.

So yeah, that day,

you're probably not going to need to go to the petrol station

and the beauty is that you wake up the next morning

and it's full again.

And you never have to go to a petrol station.

So it saves you that.

But like you said, in the UK, if you live in a flat,

you're done.

You're not having it.

Or a terraced house on the driveway.

Exactly.

You have just cables coming across the road.

Yeah.

I always say that electric cars have a place

as a city car.

It's not like polluting a load.

And if you're doing like, I don't know, 10 miles a day,

5 miles a day, your range is going to last forever.

But also if you live in a city,

you probably park on the street.

Or you park in an underground car park or something

where there's either very limited electric car,

like parking and charging or none.

So it's like, where do they actually fall into?

Well, also the amount of people use.

We were using all day every day.

So you wouldn't do that much range.

But equally, like that is an American's day to day.

They're doing lots of miles.

And I'd say in the week that we were there,

six days we were there,

we spent five to six hours charging minimum.

I would say.

Yeah, but you loved it.

You got to go to the toilet.

I got to go to the toilet.

I got to go to Starbucks.

You went to get a drink at the local store.

We spot our cars.

We looked at walnuts for sale.

We did look at walnuts.

There was a great price.

A great debt.

I mean, we'll have it in the video.

In a very good way.

That wouldn't happen otherwise.

That's true.

But yeah, so electric cars, you know,

TDCs, we're not, we're, we're neither here nor there that we are.

We're not sponsored by them.

One thing we will say is after the Hummer video,

you probably won't see one again.

Oh no.

At least on three.

There is a Renault 5 video coming, but still.

That's on TDC.

But you want to know, by the way,

we post the Hummer video and no one, no one actually watched it.

So we said that yesterday.

All the people watch it,

listening and they're going,

what Hummer video?

What video?

I've not, I've not seen it.

On the electric car.

I deliberately didn't click on it.

Yes.

So very sorry.

No more electric cars.

Maybe we're, well, the one after it is a manual E60M5.

You're like that.

Anyway, that was a big tangent.

Not even a tangent.

Big argument.

I think sometimes you need to have an argument with the boys.

I think it's exactly right.

Clear the air.

Yeah.

The hell is clear the air.

Clear the air.

And also there's now going to be people in the comments arguing.

And then they will argue with people they know.

That was my one other thing I wanted to say.

I will say as someone who's on, on neither side,

people, electric car loyalists might be the most insufferable humans

in any comment section ever.

Oh fair.

I saw in that video in the comment section,

one guy, I think I might have talked about this yesterday,

who just would not stop replying to people.

He replied to every comment that was even barely.

It wasn't even like people going,

I hate this thing.

It was people going,

ah, yeah, that wasn't,

didn't look like the most fun experience.

And him replying to them going,

you're an idiot.

They're great.

They're the best thing ever.

Man, calm down.

It's a car.

Oh, so what, what's blinded you brother?

Yeah.

What has made you, who's paying you?

Who's paying you?

Yeah.

Oh, we're being paid.

Nah, you're being paid.

Anyway.

Turns out every, all of you,

if you're listening to this,

all creamers are being paid by electric cars.

Yeah, you're all,

that's it.

Big electric is paying all of you.

Elon's out to get everyone.

He's trying to shift those cyber drugs.

You're putting here C63 RWS.

What that mean?

Ah, I was on the weekend.

I was fixing E36.

I mashed up a wheel bearing that I was installing.

I had to put a post up and say,

please, does anybody have one to help me?

Because I need to get off the ramp.

And a guy said,

I want to be at Mercedes-Benz world at a meet.

In fact, I'll pull up his name.

Because I believe he is, he may be a creamer.

His name.

Potential creamer.

Potential creamer spotted.

His name was Richard Baker.

Also just docked him for that reason.

But he's got a very nice E36.

And he said,

yeah, come down.

I'm at this car meet.

When it picked up with me,

I saw a Lamborghini Gallardo on bags there,

which you have been speaking to the man who owns that.

And as I was leaving Mercedes-Benz world,

if you don't know, it has,

think like a, you know,

this Porsche of driving Academy centers

where they've got skid pads and what sort of stuff.

And I was driving down the road

and parallel to it is this kind of slalom course

they have in the wet.

And it was a new C63.

Because they don't do any 63, right?

E.

I think I don't do any yet of this new gen.

Because it was a brand new one.

I think it was a C63.

So it's the four cylinder one.

I don't care.

But it was doing the slalom

and it has rear wheel steering.

And I was going at the exact same speed.

It was, it was kind of uncanny.

It looked like I was in a game or something.

I was in third person.

And the, it was the most bizarre looking thing

because the rear wheels would turn

and it just, it almost crab walked through the slalom.

And I just thought that might be the best in my head

because we experienced it with the Hummer,

the best technology that is newly going into cars,

I think rear wheel steering,

because I watched it do the most elegant

but controlled slalom I think I've ever seen.

If I was a rich old boy,

testing out this new car and being shown it,

I would be like hell yeah, buy me, get me one of these.

I guess like the other was rear wheel steering.

It's important, but only because cars have become so large.

Exactly.

But it's, so I guess it is,

but it's an incredibly good tech.

Oh, it does worry me stuff like that.

Oh, going wrong.

It's really not great.

Cause like, well,

rear wheel steering was a thing in like the 80s, 90s, right?

Yeah.

And it was a, it's not a Tesla.

Yeah. Well, Tesla was on the R33s, I think maybe two as well.

They have like a lockout kit because of the,

to stop it from, yeah.

Yeah.

But also this is a C63.

Now it's maneuverability.

Cool.

But if that stops it from doing a, a fantastic skid.

They all dug it.

Then what are we doing here AMG?

They're thinking, right, we need to make the C63.

Wheel steering.

It's possibly four wheel drive.

Don't know.

I don't know that.

I'll check that now.

But here's a photo of the, what's called?

Rear wheel steering.

But yeah, rear wheel steering is a,

I see it on lots of Range Rovers a lot.

Like that, it makes so much sense.

A car that's going to poodle around in London

for some reason, someone wants a Range Rover in London,

but they all do.

And it can turn on a dime.

On a dime.

It was, genuinely, it was eye-opening for me on the.

Can't wait for someone to be a specialist

in fixing faulty rear wheel steering.

For someone to hack into my rear wheel steering

and slide me into the oncoming lane for no reason.

You hit some opposite lock down and it'll be fine.

Oh, you're just grabbing down the road or something.

You've also put in a BMW man at the lights.

That was a really weird experience.

Again, on that same drive, I was coming back to the unit

and I was in the M3.

I pulled up at satellite lights in Bracknell.

I had my windows down.

It was a really lovely day.

And there was a E60 wagon, five series wagon.

No mods, no nothing.

Nothing of interest.

Brown barge.

Was it the brown barge?

It was brown barge, but black.

And I set lights.

Pull up next to this guy.

He had his window down too.

And I didn't even look at him.

I was just looking straight.

And I heard German cars.

Am I right?

And I looked over and you went, you know,

bloody, bloody everywhere these days, aren't they?

I went, yeah, I guess they are.

Do you know what he said to me?

He went, it's crazy.

We fought them in the 40s, didn't we?

And now, you know, now they're taken over.

And I stared at him because I was confused.

But he was in a BMW.

He was in a BMW.

I would get it.

If he's in a Jag, I'd be like, I see your point.

I get it.

You're a British car man.

I'd also get it if it was possibly 1994.

Yeah.

Brother, where have you been for the last 20 years?

But I just stared at him and went, yeah.

One day he just regained consciousness, looked around and saw everyone in a BMW,

Audi or a Merc and went, I finally baited us.

Oh, yeah.

He forgot what car he bought and went, me too?

God, no, they got to me.

But it was one of the most odd interactions I've had,

perhaps in the last decade.

I know scenes in a movie, you know,

they look in the mirror and they see exactly what they don't want to be.

But with the light green, I literally thought,

I don't want to speak any more to you.

I think I'm maybe 15 seconds away

from getting something really not nice said.

Is it?

I reckon a slur is coming out at some point.

Yeah, something dodgy is coming out.

So I'm going to leave.

Yeah, he's stolen that car.

Your car's German too.

What?

No, no.

This has been done.

That is also German.

What else we got?

We got a new bullshit tire name.

We discovered it just today on Rory's vehicle outside.

I don't know.

It hasn't mentioned it.

It's a green mini.

This also is horrible.

It's really terrible.

It really is horrible.

If you like terrible cars, tune into that video.

But we quite like on any car actually,

I quite like to just check out the tires.

You got to check them out.

See them out.

If you can't recognise it from a distance,

go and check it out.

Oh, you know Michelin.

I don't need to check out the Michelin.

I can see it's a Michelin.

It looks great.

Or a Pirelli or whatever.

But this was not seen this tread before.

Let's have a look.

We got the...

It was a...

I've got it here.

Matador.

The Matador brand.

Yeah.

Hectora 3.

And I've heard that Hectora is going to be running three D66 Turvos

coming into race walls.

Ben?

It sounds like he is.

Sounds like I'll do that.

I don't know.

That is a fast and furious quote.

Ah, okay.

The Hectora, not one of the most extreme bullshit names,

but it's up there.

He's got Hector.

It's got this sort of Spanish vibe to it.

I like the Matador Hectora 3.

Yes.

And I'm sure it's Korean.

Also, you've got the Matador.

Pull up with the Mercy Largo.

It's a Hectora 3.

So what were the first two like?

So this is Tokyo Drift at this stage.

They've come far.

So it's like they're going to have the four S.

Yeah.

I can't wait for the three.

Can't wait for Tora 6 is what it will be, I think.

Or Hex 7 Matador.

Turnpike you've also put in here.

Yes.

This is something kind of interesting.

We spoke a few weeks ago about the fact that

speed hunters is dead.

Well, we believe it's dead.

There's nothing more being posted on it.

And a load of ex-speed hunters guys have put,

and gals have put together a new website called Turnpike,

which is, I'd say it was original in design.

I think it looks, I'll put it up on the screen here.

But it's kind of like a website where it's photos

based of car culture.

And I love it.

I love it.

I think it's completely original.

It's original.

It might sound like I'm taking the best, but I actually really like it.

It's essentially speed hunters again in a good way.

Just over here, Turnpike.

So there's not many obstacles on there right now,

because they've literally just started it.

But it is hopefully the beginnings of speed hunters too.

The two speed two hunters.

We'll call it two turn, two pike?

Two turn, two pike.

Yeah.

It was evil.

So I would recommend if you like car culturey stuff,

you like nice photos, you like people going around the world

and discovering car stuff.

Go have a look at this and give them some support.

I will, I might even email in and say,

yo, if you, you know, you want an article about

the cultural significance of the ninky-nunk, the microcar vergo,

we could do something.

We could do that.

Do you, anyone wants to need an article about

all of the Lamborghini Galados and Ferrari 550s in the world?

So we could definitely do that.

It's just a list.

You might be able to find it.

We might do it to Deck, the editor for this,

but there was a point where my thing popped up

and said, new listing for Ferrari 550.

I completely ignore what you guys said and check that out.

So sorry.

And if you want to know, you know,

if the ninky-nunk can get up, Shelsie Walsh hill climb,

then that'll be within a week or two.

There are still some tickets left,

but I believe for Shelsie Walsh, it's foodandfuel.com.

Perhaps just type food and fuel and un-google.

But come, come see us there.

We will be there.

Ben will be going up there in some code.

And it's called something.

It's TDC10.

Hey, thanks so much.

Don't take my word for it.

And what does that get you off?

I think that gets you TDC10 off.

What does it get you off?

All right.

That's my business, mate.

That's not yours.

It'll get you off a speeding charge.

Pronto.

That's not true.

We're going to tell you that's not true.

If you get full over, quote TDC10 and get arrested.

No, use code TDC10 for, I would assume, 10% off.

Get yourself it off.

There's no way.

Is it 10% off?

It's not.

Everyone, go to the website.

Try out the discount code.

See what it does.

I've heard Ben told me that it's 100% off.

And you can hold them to that.

That seems inaccurate.

Put in Doc 100 and it will block you from the website.

It will block you from getting any further.

Do you want us to end on, do you want to tell people what you

suggested to me earlier about the Hill Climb?

I suggested, for those of you that don't know,

there is a Hill Climb event at Chelsea Walsh, that's the one we'll be at.

Ben is not bringing his Clio.

So I suggest, while Ben wasn't here to M who organized the event,

can Ben go up in the ninking on in our microcar?

Sure.

Which may struggle to even get up.

Quite a funny moment.

And there will be an ambulance there, which is for safety.

I'll say Will and I then chase Ben up the hill in the ambulance.

And I said to him, it's funny,

but Ben will actually be really upset about that.

And so today I floated the idea with Ben.

And Ben, I want you to be honest to the Creamers.

What was your reaction when I finished explaining it?

I can't say it out loud.

I wasn't happy.

No, but mimic the intonation.

But without using, you know, as well as.

Because I can do it.

I don't think you can do it.

You went, no, that's, no, I'm not doing that.

Are you joking?

Why would I do that?

I'm not doing that.

What are you talking about?

Also, they went, oh, do you want to do that?

That would be so fun.

And I was like, okay.

It would be quite funny.

Ben, we offered you 40 pounds.

And we said, what's it worth?

Your Ben said money.

So he said $40.

He said no.

And then I offered you that Will and I would drive the ambulance.

I don't want it at all.

And then I said, okay, fine.

What if we wore nurses outfits like from a Halloween store?

I would need 40 pounds.

And you, and even then you said no.

What if we were in a...

You stressed it like it was, it's all great fun for everyone but me.

And like, I'll go, oh, my ass sounds.

Sure, yeah, I'll do that.

You're going up in an Inky Nong.

What if we were in a liveried up, like a doctor liveried micro car?

That's quite funny.

Matching the matching car.

Because also we're in it.

So like, hold on.

Hours is slower than yours at that point.

Or we buy two more, two more.

Three micro cars go up the hill.

It's really quite funny.

I've named my price.

You refuse to pay it.

40, 50, 50 pounds.

Four, four grand.

50, 50, 50, five grand I said I would do it for.

Sorry, crazy.

That's my minimum for being humiliated with thousands of people.

Anyone, anyone that is that complains about us messing with Ben

and us all messing with each other.

Just remember that.

Just remember that Ben wanted five grand.

I wasn't mean serious.

I was kind of joking.

But I said that would be the minimum that I would take

to be humiliated for that many people.

I was being serious when I said 40 pounds.

The offer is always...

I don't want 40 pounds.

I'd rather just not have the 50 pounds.

I'll double that.

80 pounds.

60 pounds.

I'd say 1975 to 1990, 25 pounds.

I'm not doing it.

And now, do you know what?

I'm not going up the hill at all.

Yes, you are.

No, I'm not because I don't trust it.

You're not going to pull some of that.

I promise I won't.

I actually promise I won't.

If you don't like it...

But you've got to go up the hill.

But what if there's an incident?

It's quite funny to do that.

What if there is an incident?

And you have to get up there.

Actually, that's true.

It might not even be up to us.

Yeah.

If someone calls in, look, the top of the hill right now,

there is a car on fire.

Ambulance, mate.

You have to get up there.

He'll be on his way.

God, that's why I would disappear.

Also, you're pretty quick.

You're the fastest man alive.

But we know clear because I don't get a sort in time.

So it's not happening.

Okay.

Well, you know, I'll consider taking that up the hill,

but I need reassurance that I'm not going to be bullied by you.

I need a guarantee.

How do you know?

No, because I...

Listen, that...

What is the show's water hill climb?

I mean, do you think you can walk 20 minutes?

Oh, God.

Yeah, it's going to be like five minutes.

It's going to be the only 20 minutes to die.

I get away from you two,

but I can just have a bit of you.

20 minutes?

You're not thinking, aren't you?

Are you pushing it?

So we will report back on that.

It'll be probably three or four podcasts from now.

We will, of course, come back with some stories, I'm sure.

But for that, for now, I think that's a nice place to end.

We've had our argument.

We've had some car sounds.

We'll be back with some more.

I think how long has it actually been?

It's quite long.

One hour.

30 to three minutes.

That's a nice one.

That's not, because we'll cut some stuff out, but yeah, sure.

Over an hour.

This is a perfect time to end.

Thank you very much for listening to the Cars Real Everything Around Me podcast.

We will see you next week, as ever.

Ben, you can be back next week.

I think about it.

Okay, sure.

Unless it's a guest.

Four grand, five grand next week, are we?

As always, remember, cars are all everything around me.

Cream, get the money.

Dollar, dollar, bail, y'all.

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