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Edging, busting, and nuts, and beans, clinics, cleaning. My granddad is on his way out, and I'm washing him. That is you. I thought seeing as your backdoor's got smashed it. I thought I'd get you a new backdoor. Where did you get this backdoor from? Hello, and Merry Christmas on the 60-second cream podcast.
We planned it perfectly. When we launched a podcast, we will get a Christmas day slot, like a year down the line. We've got myself, Will, Edwin, to my right, and Ben behind the camera. Hello, Christmas.
Hello, Christmas. Now, at the beginning of every single one of these podcasts, we ask ourselves, do cars rule or ruin everything around us this Christmas day? Edwin, would you like to kick us off?
No, Merry Christmas to you all. That is a great question. It's a ruin, unfortunately, on this happy and holiest of days. No, yeah, I've got no daily. My E36 is falling apart around me. I asked Ben to move it earlier. Ben, what happened?
Oh, I got stuck in it. I asked Ben to move the E36 while I moved Taylor's Cayenne, and I moved the Cayenne, got the jump back out, did a load of things.
As I was walking back out from the pit, Ben was still sat in my car, and he looked over like a puppy, and I realised I went, ah, and went and opened the door.
The door handles now broken. I'm going to admit something. The wing mirror is still not there. That's been a month. Sorry, the review mirror. It's just kind of falling apart around me.
That car was interesting because it was like, I actually think it was what? Not the best example. It was all right. It was very cool.
And then you put the body kit on it, and I thought, this is looking good, and it got painted. I was like, wow, this is clean. And it's slowly becoming just an E36.
Yeah, door cards are missing. It smells of milk in there. The seats are very dirty.
We won't explain that in no context. No, just a dustbin of milk there. And eggnog.
The best part is that you have by far the smallest commute out of all of us.
Oh, that's all right. I didn't think that was going where I thought it was going.
Oh, and the smallest bit out of all of us. I'm watching it in real time. Just get worse and worse.
Yeah. Hey, we'll, you know, we'll see the new year, which will be next-cream, may bring a solution to that. We'll see.
Have you bought yourself a car for Chris? Haven't bought it, but there might be something afoot. There may be something afoot.
Really? There may be deals going on. Actually, perhaps. You know, the one that I went and looked at. Not the one we talked about in podcast, but the other one I went and looked at.
We will have Christmas cars though. We'll get to that a little bit. Which one? What? And I will.
You bought car? No, I'm bought it, but there's, there's, there's things afoot. Do I know of this? Don't, why don't, you know, do you know this?
Do you know this? Well, you know, well, no, I don't know of that. I sort of know of that, but I don't.
Oh, I don't know for now. It's a ruin. I'm hoping that wherever I am on this Christmas of day, it's better.
Yeah. Benjamin from me having issues with my daily. What about you? My daily is great. Okay.
As in non-existent. Okay. What's not there? Can't hurt you. Exactly. A daily can't break if you haven't got one.
The last podcast was shot possibly three days ago. So nothing has changed even if it had been shot a year ago.
Nothing would have changed way to break the illusion even in another year's time.
I don't think it's probably not a year's time. S2000 life is is great. Is it?
No, what is it? It's actually fine. The thing that I'm not what Edwin said, not Edwin said, not what you said the other day.
No, it's, it's a great car. The issue is is the fact that there's what there's two things political. There are two things.
Number one is I fear for it. Rust wise. And number two is no cruise control, which obviously it wouldn't have as a sports car.
But or traction control. Now you said Christmas. No, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it on Christmas. No, that's that. That's maybe a new year's one.
There's nothing. There is nothing. Yes, you are a politician. Yeah. You've lied to us and then the deadline you gave us, you then push forwards backwards.
There's contacts this everyone listening. I'm not giving it. But Ben, remember we talked about this. We said you can leave it in 2025. Otherwise, it comes with you into 26.
I'm not talking about it. Well, what if we talk about it? You don't you don't want us to spin the story. No, no.
Anyway, the has no traction traction control. That's great. It's got no cruise control. So it makes my journey feel quite long. But apart from that, great car.
Okay, go anyway, turning it around and coming over to me, it will be a rule. It's a nice rule because there's not again, we haven't done many days since the last one.
There's not many. Do you actually say rule or rule? I mean, what do you just think you just talked about your daily? Oh, sorry.
Brewing. Okay, two ruins and a rule. And I would say, yes, no reason to ruin and quite a big rule, not, not, not, not personal correlated, but somewhere we visited recently, which we will get to wrong. It is. Yeah.
We're sorry. We'll get to that later. Yeah, we will get so we've got other things to get through. I mean, got Christmassy things. This will be a perhaps slightly longer. Maybe not. We'll see or happy holidays to those of you not celebrating Christmast. There'll be gifts.
I want to say one thing. There'll be everyone listening. I really hope that you're listening on Christmas day and you have left your family in one room and you're listening to the cream.
No, listen, or perhaps your gathers around the fire, open your presence, listening to us. They're going good. You don't. Please don't say anything silly. Please don't say anything silly. Let me go.
Edging, edging, busting and nuts and beans. Also, what I was going to say is left my brain and that's okay. Okay.
Is that your hat? Christmas hat? No. Oh, yeah, for those of you listening and not watching. That's what I was going to say. Also, lots of you may be driving today. Yeah.
You may be heading from one family to another family. Oh, working. Give some of the bend you were driving home for Christmas. That might be it.
If you're working, make sure you're listening to the cream podcast. If you're an audio listener, you will see Ben is dressed in a Christmas jumper.
What are you wearing with a hat? Yeah, I'm the same. Will you've got a Star Wars. Yeah, jump a little active fit.
Yeah. And you've decided not to go with the Christmas hat, but with the
Christmas Christmas, but it's not Santa. Santa is a Christmas cracker hat, which I believe is.
We'll have a cool map.
We'll hand it me a box earlier of just how many a thousand of those.
400 Christmas. 400 Christmas hats. It's for the next one. And he said I bought props. I bought one very long piece of tinsel and 400 Christmas.
I tell you what does it not look like? The tinsel is great. And we've got no gain this this week round. We've got a lovely fire burning.
Ben's makes tape up on the screen.
Okay. Also, there is a giant neon check engine. I want to go with giant eight check engine neon light on the bottom, which Paris also Christmas.
It was listed as genuine as as as large genuine genuine original manufacturer.
These now there is also in front of it the ML 63 tire, which you would have now seen Ben give me confirmation.
Yeah, you wouldn't have heard anything. You would have seen it actually in about a week or so. Okay.
Well, we have bought we teased it in the last one. We've bought an ML 63 AMG with we're kind of working wrapping up work on that.
It's just the start. This car is going to be cool. It's very very. We actually had a conversation today where we went.
It's just going to be one episode where we just made it nice. And now we found mods.
There's too many things to do here comes TDC boys. So you will see that in the new year.
Right. Things and stuff. Sure. Some of which are Christmas related. Some of which are not starting off with is it this?
Is it what the thing you mentioned before we start?
Well, not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. This is the Leap Scrung T63.
This is what it's put in. I'm honestly baffled. Okay. It is called the now I was behind a car on the way home.
Yeah. I was actually sorry. Let me rephrase this. It's much better TDC version.
We were working through lunch and I we ordered food. I accidentally ordered it to my house.
Yeah. So I had to go to my house to go and get the food.
Will how warm was the food? Well, well, no. It's quite way away.
So anyway, on the way back, I was I was trying to get back as quick as possible to have our Christmas lunch together.
And what bestowed in front of me, but it was called a leap motor T03.
I'm going to put a photo of this car up on the screen.
That is a not real. This is a watchdog's car. I see. I saw these.
Why is it a fit 500 and an a class that has just really been matched.
Right. What I for the viewers, Ben. Get the get the script. Okay. So imagine just the most tragic looking machine you've ever seen.
It's a very small, very thin car. And I would I would make it. What does it look like?
A long thing. We will. We'll hit that. I think. Yeah. It's a 500 mix with a class lights.
Now, however big you think this car is, make it half the size of it.
It's now microcar scale. No. So big. So you know, the Dacia Springs that you see around the time.
It could be it might be either the same size or just a little bit smaller than that.
And this car was doing four miles an hour on a, on a, what do you call it?
A B road, 60 mile. Maybe, look, maybe I'm being over at us, call it five.
It was going slow. It's up to 10. But I was, I was behind this car and I got angry.
Not because it was holding me up, but because I don't know what that is.
Yeah. No, that's not a thing. It's that there was a time.
This is this why I brought this up for the creamers.
If you're as afflicted as us, you know the feeling of knowing every car on the road.
In from four miles away, you'll see a C class and you can go as a preface W204.
I can see that. You know, all the cars on the road. What is this?
I just have to do a quick search. I wondered, I thought that is that a German brand.
Maybe it's British car manufacturer. It's, it's, it's trendy.
Which is, but this is what I mean. There are so many new brands and cars coming out.
I can't keep up. And it's annoying me. Is this what like the early 1900s was like?
It must be. They came out with the car and went right Chevrolet here.
Dodger here. Ford here. BMW here. What's it? Model T.
Have you seen one of those Mercedes-Benz? Never heard of it.
I used to be a dame luck. God.
Was a Mercedes-Benz white? I just called me Mr. Benz, please. Mercedes was my father's name.
I had a look at what this is. It annoyed me so much. I was like, I have to do my research on it.
165 miles. You can do it this.
So compared to something like a leaf. A leaf.
A leaf. And it will do 12.7 seconds, not to 66.
That's slow. That's really slow.
And 81 miles now. Top speed. That's not fast at all.
But the thing that I will say is kind of impressive.
16,000 or 15,985 miles.
That would make it surely one of the cheapest.
One of the cheapest cars in the market.
Which is kind of interesting.
Because that feels like 2010 cheap car money.
Yeah. Like granted.
16 grand is not cheap to spend on a box.
A soap box with wheels.
But in today's money, where a golf will cost you 35, 40 grand.
That's kind of impressive. And it's called the two, three.
It's called the T-O-3.
In today's money, I find it impressive.
But I still think, I mean, but I watched.
Is it the Ukraine special of Topkit?
You know, they have the up, the Fiesta and the Dacia Sandera.
And I'm watching that and thinking.
It's like the Sandera was like seven grand in you.
I was inflation, 10 grand now, right?
But even then, you're looking at cars that look a little maybe 18, 19 grand now.
And you get a Fiesta, which at the time was quite high quality.
I guarantee you get in that car. It's going to feel cheap.
I was wondering if they're doing five,
because they just couldn't bear to live with it.
They're just, I just, I have no.
It's so, so sucking that I'm just going to,
I'm just going to not even, they've just put it in drive and let off or dead or.
It's quite being however many years old it is.
It's the batteries just died.
Yeah. That is as fast as it will go.
I know that most people are going to buy this on finance or on high purchase or whatever.
But 16 grand, you could go out and get a four-year-old Fiesta.
For the same finance deal.
Oyster oyster oyster.
Yeah, oyster oyster.
Oyster oyster.
But you could have a good car.
Yeah.
Electric.
For 15 grand, you can go and finance something electric that's a couple years old.
You could get an AMG.
You could get an AMG.
You probably get a take-hand that's like six months old for that sort of money.
But yeah, 16, 15, 16 grand.
You're getting something that's got that will have nothing.
No, that's just nothing.
Well, it's got this sadness and it's called a leap motor.
You can't, you cannot.
When someone says, what car do you have and you go.
It's a leap motor.
What?
Sorry, sorry.
It's a leaf blower.
What car are we driving here?
That's not a good name.
I can only imagine the sort of human being that's driving that gray, beige and boring.
Sad.
Anyway, onto the next one.
Okay.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
So if you're awake at this moment to fire a leap motor, two, three under your tree, you go.
I wonder what it is.
Is it an A-class?
Oh.
Now the next.
Yeah, I didn't know this was the next thing coming.
Okay.
On this Christmas morning, I really hope you're sitting with your family.
There's a thing we're about to start discuss is a handbrake dick pick.
Yes.
Now Ben, you, we have not told you about this.
I saw, we have a chat on Slack where we put in lots of things to talk about.
That's where we get the list that he has here from.
And I saw it coming through and thought, what?
Now in a minute ago, they said, these two were like, we'll say to everyone,
oh, I'll send you the picture.
I'll send you the picture.
And I've been sat here quite.
I don't want to say.
Now I like to describe what you think it's going to be.
I don't know.
No, no, no, no.
I might give you some context.
A little bit.
All right.
So we are about to do a video in the next week or so.
Modifying a friend of mine's mini.
So I've been looking for parts.
And I, oh.
And there we go.
And I found a breaker of parts.
And he said, I've got some bits.
Join us and send you some pictures.
I said, sure.
Now, what?
Now, send me over some pictures.
Now that one out.
Stop there.
Ben, what do you think happened next?
So I think he sent you photos of the bits.
And you know, there was something was out in the background.
So you think it's in the back.
So it wasn't an accidentally extra photoscent.
Oh, it could be that.
Okay.
But you think it was in the background.
I think maybe he was trying to take.
I don't know why he.
Have it out.
You know, you know, you're like tapping through.
And I'll say this one, this one, this one.
You might accidentally tap the.
What a festive conversation.
Would we like to see it?
No.
Okay.
Close your eyes.
Exhale.
Fill your body.
Relax.
Let go of whatever you're carrying today.
Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class.
I got them delivered free from 1800 contacts.
Oh, my gosh, they're so fast.
And breathe.
Oh, sorry.
I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order.
Oh, sorry.
Namaste.
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For the audio viewers, I would like you to.
I'd like to explain what you're saying.
Now, we will.
This will get an overlay.
I promised you that.
It actually has to.
This is for starters.
It's not an actual.
Yes, it is.
You've got it back at the screen now.
It's carbon fiber something.
I assume it's a handbrake.
It's a contact.
It's it's being an angle of perhaps a point of view angle looking down as if you were.
He's kind of taking it from chin level.
But like looking down his body.
And then he is his hand is just right at the bottom of the frame.
Just kind of like holding like you might hold.
I don't know what you might hold.
With the gear knob just protruding.
Outwards.
Correct.
He might be the worst way you could photograph a handbrake on earth.
Surely he knows what he's doing.
I didn't say I'm not interested.
I'm breaking my mind.
Look, it's lovely.
I'm sure you get a lot of office on it.
But it's not for me.
Maybe it's very, very small.
If I take it at this angle, it will hit the halftime zoom.
We wouldn't fish eye on it.
Is that what he's got?
Is that it from the base?
Is that why there's a break disc down there for that tremble.
For scale, you're breaking the societalists.
This thing needs a break disc.
For scale.
By the way that's an R6 break.
So also I'm 6 foot one.
If any of you need me pointers on how to take a photo of a handbrake please get a tip for this mini breaker.
Also I'm not going to out you.
But if you listen to the podcast and that's you, shout out.
Just just do a different act and put it on the floor to the object of it.
Yeah, and then you know, it removes any, or blur it.
Next time, perhaps.
Perhaps, that was incredibly good.
I've been laughing at this for the last week,
since which will show me really quite funny.
Next up, we have Lambo.com.
Lambo.com.
Which is a story I only read about yesterday.
Sorry, I'm going to have to speak among yourselves briefly.
Have we been made in our own house?
How's your Christmas?
What do you get?
Don't know.
This is Christmas for me.
Right now, I'm probably enjoying Christmas turkey.
What about you?
I'm just going to talk about it nonetheless.
So, a man bought Lambo.com.
Many years ago, he bought the domain.
It's not a new thing to buy domains and try and sell them.
He bought the domain thinking,
I might sell this in the future.
I think he paid $10,000 for it.
So, big investment.
Yeah, fairly big.
I mean, I think this was like $20, $10, I want to say,
someone will know more as they do.
So, a lot of money is going to spend on the domain
that you don't really know if you can use it or not.
And apparently he did many things over the course
of owning this domain,
where he was basically saying,
it's nothing to do with Lamborghini.
I'm not trying to do that.
I'm, it's like to a nickname called Lam.
And then he put a site up that said he was basically
going to go after the people that were saying
that it was about Lamborghini, whatever.
And it's all gone to a court of laws and what's such.
And they've ruled that it goes to Lamborghini.
What without paying?
So, he listed it for sale, I want to say in 2018.
For reasonable.
It was $1.2 million.
OK, OK.
And obviously, Lamborghini went, well, I don't really want that
because I think we actually have a website called
Lamborghini.
That's the name, which is the name.
Now, famously when you, when you're trying to sell something,
you kind of start at a price and you kind of move down
from there.
That wasn't his plan here.
No, yeah, I read somewhere $75 million.
I like it's, it's like holding someone
and ransom in a movie.
It's reverse bartering.
It's $1.2 million.
No, we're not interested.
But it went five million.
It basically went to like an intellectual property court
type thing.
And they basically said, yeah, you're a chopman, mate.
We're giving it.
And they gave it to Lamborghini.
Now, that's lost out on time, yeah, you should at least get
where you, but it's because he was over the course
of how many years he was basically attacking them
and trying, just trying to get money out of it.
So yeah, it's just a ridiculous way to do things.
The same thing with I want to say it was Nissan
in America, and they went after him for years and years
and he sold his business just to pay for the legal fees
to stay the ownership, that the owner of it,
because they were coming after him.
And that was legitly for his business.
He just owned it before them.
And they went, no, we want it, that should be ours.
And just tried to take it from him, but he kept fighting them.
Which is that, in that case, I'm on his side.
You don't just get to own it because you want it.
It's not yours.
Even if he's been in a bit of a chopper about it,
just tell him you don't want it.
You can't be like, you can't be like,
I'm not buying that off you by the way, I have it now.
Thanks.
We had it for, I can't remember what it was.
I think it might have been at the beginning of TDC.
Do the TDC or something.
Someone got in contact and said,
I've got them bought these domains.
Do you want to buy them off me?
No, and then he was like, oh, why don't you want it?
I'm not paying you more if I wanted them.
I'd have bought them.
I'll do it, we'll call it.it or something.
Yeah, or LT, we'll have it with your new website.
We don't care.
Cream it.
Someone's going to buy that.
So, whoever has bought Cream.com, have it.
I think Cream.com might exist.
Cream, yeah, we don't have that.
Or cars, we'll have it here on my.com.
You have it mate.
Have it.
We've already got one.
We've already got one, and I'll tell you what, next year.
Woo, we've got some sums of merch in.
I, just wearing a test shirt under my jumper.
Benzy, anyone that doesn't have it.
Yeah, thanks guys.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's something.
Didn't think of me, it's going to be good.
Well, yeah, lemma.com man has bit of what I owe 15 years battling, and just lost the
domain.
I see you.
But anyway, shall we do something in Christmassy?
Yes.
We've got some more news and stuff than whatever else, but I don't want to push Christmassy
yet.
You're now going to have to listen to us eat an entire roast dinner.
No, insurious.
We do have at some point secret Santa, we won't do that.
We do have that.
We won't do that yet.
I'm very excited for that.
We will do a naughty or nice list.
Here we go.
It's been a year, basically.
It has been a year.
Since last Christmas.
It's been a year since last Christmas.
Crazy hub.
Crazy hub.
We have been very fortunate to drive the passenger in, be around lots of very cool cars
this year.
Bulls cars.
Yeah.
So we must pick one good car, the best car we've driven, been in whatever this year, and
the worst car of the year.
Did you like to kick off?
Would Ben like to kick off?
Ben?
Yes.
I've just thought of one in the moment.
Hang on.
I actually have, I couldn't nail either down to just one, I have two for both, is that okay?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I would like this to be rolled back.
I know what you're saying.
Well, I hope you do know what I'm going to say, because Will said to us, I'd like you to
pick three cars each, and you said, before the spot got started, why don't we make it
one, it should be one each, and then we have three, it would together.
Yeah, but then I chained right.
And then he told me I couldn't pick a specific car.
I didn't say that.
You got this one.
You got it, Master.
Yeah.
You can't pick your own car, by the way.
I mean, obviously it's going to be that.
Didn't say that.
I said, right.
I suggested that can we not pick our own car.
Logically, I guys 2000, you go galada, and then the overall conversation, and then I go,
think you don't.
Overall, you need a, you're naughty one, and you're nice one, you, you, you made these
rules.
No.
Yes, you did.
So choose one.
You can do a special one.
Okay.
His one.
My least favourite is controversial.
Donut.
I haven't told you.
I'll say either of you this.
What the heck?
Why is that?
I'm not saying it's the worst car.
It's a great car.
It just.
It's not a bad car.
What do you vote is the worst car?
I vote this is the worst car.
No.
My reason is that it's not the worst car.
No, it's your least favourite and your favourite.
Okay.
Let me explain.
It's not a podcast.
Have your question time with me.
Go, go, Gadget Ben.
The two or five dti, I accept objectively is a very cool car, a very cool history.
It's also a very good car.
I never felt anything towards it.
I'm a filming part of it.
Didn't really care.
Remember, we got it.
I wasn't hugely excited.
I didn't really get it.
So for me, on our list of cars.
What do you understand?
Because you had a 182.
Yeah, I know.
But it just ended up mentally like a successor.
Oh, my.
I don't know why.
It.
It didn't do it for me.
Okay.
And your best.
My best car.
I want to make it too.
No, you're not making it too.
I want to.
No, you're.
Okay.
Okay.
On my actual best car is the call that.
Oh, that in the day.
That was up there for me.
That changed me.
Yeah.
Did you drive?
No.
We would be doing it two seats.
We'd have a little photo of Ben saying in the morning.
It would be facing the wrong way.
At least.
I'm assuming you're.
Well, not that you're allowed it would have been the SD.
No, I know what you mean.
No, I'm not allowed.
Not allowed.
The SD 1000 as much as that was.
The much is that it was very special moment to buy anything.
The.
The.
The.
Zero six.
It was.
It was a.
It was a zero six basically.
Yeah.
LS seven.
So.
It was avert.
So it's not.
But that.
It was avert.
I got out of that.
This is crazy.
The noise is crazy.
To be fair, you.
Since that day, I've been talking about all these things.
It ignited something in me.
So that.
And then.
When we go back to America, we need to take Ben to one of those takeovers with one of those.
Like C seven.
With.
You imagine me to take over.
Tinted real lights.
Hi guys.
And I've been jumping in the middle.
Hello.
I hit me next.
Okay.
So best car.
Zero six.
Yes.
Worst car being too far.
Not worse.
Which actually really.
No.
No.
Is it his worst car?
And I say something.
It's actually bad.
Well, no, it's naughty or nice.
Right.
Naughty car.
Which one's naughty?
I don't like that.
Which one isn't.
The two of five.
Wow.
That's kind of me.
I just don't.
I'm not.
I doesn't do it for me.
All right.
Sorry.
Edwin.
For me, the best.
And in the same vein as Ben, it was the one that I made me feel.
So.
So much thing about the thing.
Okay.
It was the Tuscan.
Oh yeah.
The Tuscan.
I think about that.
Really quite often.
And it's actually one of the things that has.
What has in theory, it should be the 550.
Because the 550 confirmed.
I will.
I will work towards that.
And I will own it.
But I knew.
I always knew I would.
The Tuscan.
I was like, this is.
I like this.
But it's going to drive like a bag of shit.
Isn't it?
And then it was the most glorious thing.
And that was driven on skinny little b-roads in kind of winter.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I like.
When we got down that one of that shoe, I was putting gloves on and stuff
to settle cameras up.
Like it wasn't an appropriate place to be driving a Tuscan.
No.
And yet it was fantastic.
And I would still love.
I don't know that it will ever happen because of the money for them.
But yeah.
It's just.
It was life changing in the best way possible.
Now I ask a question for you.
For me or to me?
To you.
Okay.
From me to you.
You could do that as well.
Okay.
And here's a question.
Here's one from me.
Now the Ferrari.
Yes.
You're going to have to get rid of everything you want to have the Ferrari.
Yeah.
But surely the Tuscan you could have.
And you could have the Tuscan for a year and send it to America
and make money.
Now he's.
That's actually a nice way of thinking.
And you can do it.
That's not a usual Benway thing.
I know.
Here is my actual thought on this.
Oh, by cars.
Here's my genuine thought of that.
If the Ferrari in France, if Mr. Jeremy,
their Merry Christmas Jeremy, please get back to me.
Whatever you, you know, I hope you have a great one.
If that car falls through, I think that is what I would do.
Because I've been looking at Tuscan.
I've been keeping an eye on them.
I just loved their own one for a bit.
But the issue is the color.
Just like the last podcast we talked about.
Color's the biggest thing for me.
And it needs to be in flip paint.
But that's hard to find.
Sword flesh.
So flesh.
Please get a flesh.
Yeah.
I remember because there is a lot of, there are a lot of videos to be fair.
I think you're the bit as well.
Where you say, this is a car.
I really like your dream car because you're afflicted by it.
Oh, I have the hundreds.
But there are, the Tuscan was one where we filmed it.
I remember thinking he really likes this.
I did it.
You really liked it.
And you still mentioned it now.
Yeah.
I actually think you've mentioned that more than you have the Ferrari.
I have.
But that's because the Ferrari has always been in my mind.
It's like the Galardo.
Also, you've always...
I guess the thing is, it's similar to many of the cars we talk about to be fair.
It's drove the Ferrari.
But it wasn't the ultimate.
No, I wanted to do something of it.
The one you have in your mind is different.
Yeah, exactly.
Had you driven that car?
It'd probably be that car beyond anything else.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's a standard car.
There are little bits.
You drive it and you come away going...
When you come away from the car and you go,
there's nothing I would change about that.
And I genuinely think about the Tuscany.
Yeah.
I could own that Tuscany.
All of us Tuscany and do nothing and love it.
Yes.
We should actually do that.
What?
It's actually called TVR.
Not all of us Tuscany.
Oh.
I wonder if it'll be O-O-L-R.
Not forever.
OVR.
Yeah.
The question that we got asked the other day,
was that you that asked it?
Are there any cars that you'd never do anything to?
Oh, yeah.
That's actually for the example.
I would do some things.
Wheels.
No, I'd leave the wheels.
Wow.
I think there's a lot of new spaces and loads and some other bit.
But like...
Because it's almost, the TVRs are almost like they're modified from the factory.
Yeah.
Exactly.
They're perfect.
They've got like AP brakes.
Yeah.
And they're allowed exhaust.
Just like, oh, okay, I have nothing to do with it.
Oh, me?
That's me.
Because I know.
And then the worst car...
I must think in...
Yesterday, it doesn't...
Yesterday was not...
It was last...
No last September.
Yes, last September.
Last year, yeah.
Let's...
Sorry, just thinking about things.
Just thinking about...
No.
Because it's difficult to choose.
Because we like, many of the things that we've had.
we've had, but there have been some disappointment this year.
Do you want to, well, do you want to tell everyone your favorite?
Please, I'm taking it through the video.
Mine's blazingly obvious.
Well, actually, it may be not as blazingly obvious.
God, no, I know what it is because it's not, it's not a car I own.
I would, I would have loved to have chosen that, but it has to be the
marshy lago.
It absolutely has to be though.
The glado is a, is a dream.
marshy lago is the dream.
And like we're saying about the Tuscan, driving that marshy lago, that was it.
There, there is that car.
It sounded it looked and it, and it felt exactly how I wanted it to be.
There is nothing I could have changed other than maybe, like, keeping the car
forever.
Nothing I would have changed about that experience.
And it was genuinely something that was like, okay, now it's time to, it's
time to, time to lock in, chaps.
You're, I have, I think I have one.
And I've actually just forgot me again.
Do you like it?
Yeah, please, okay.
Well, Edwin, forget what he's just forgotten, and remembers again, my worst
one, it was a toughy because there are some cars that I, I found a little bit
forgettable, one for seven GTA scrung to mind.
Yeah, actually, I think it's not, it's forgettable, but I don't think it's
bad enough to go on a naughty list.
No, the car that's, it's firmly on the naughty list.
Is a Jaguar XFR.
Yeah, that is a fair point.
And I don't actually know which one it is.
That's just Jaguar XFR.
That's fair, but as a car, and as a car is fantastic, but I never
want to see it again, or another Jaguar from a, it made me completely, even
I love the car.
The car is fantastic.
I think I actually said it's almost as good as an M5 or as good sort of, you know,
for much less money.
But the absolute headache that both of those cars caused, it is, I don't think
there has been another car on the channel yet.
Maybe I'll, in general, more than the S3.
The S3 was a headache, but the XFR, to the, to the, to the question money was
more complicated and would always, there would always be something else.
We, the first one, we couldn't fix, like that, that's the first car on this
channel that has happened, that we've just had to give up on.
The thing is, to just give it away, is that everyone says Jags are reliable,
but we bought, and they were cheaper ones, of course, and the one was crashed.
But the stuff like, you're telling me that, okay, we're going to buy two separate
cars, the same model, but two completely different ones, different lives,
different mileage, like almost double, one of them was double the mileage,
and owning them within like a month, that much stuff goes wrong.
It's a back car.
Yeah, we did, we did beat the shit out of it.
Yeah, but also, if you're, they are both bottom of the blue one less so, I will say,
actually, the blue one less so, that was a, one of the cheapest cars for sale,
but I don't think it was that bad.
No, green one was a unknown, unknown car from co-part, and it turned out that
lots of the stuff that got went wrong with it was because of previous people
not looking after it, not cleaning the car with that kind of thing, but still two cases
where they both caused ridiculous headaches.
And two timing chain failures on separate cars with different
mileage, different lives, like mental, and I know, yeah, fine, that does happen.
But if you have a 500 horsepower car, surely it should be able to have 500 horsepower
power up, it should be able to be not beaten on like rags, but like if it's
warmed up properly, you do a poll, and it doesn't make a timing chain go loose.
Yeah, I mean, look at the amount of GTRs on earth.
Yeah, they get at like all of them, not all of them, but let's say the
majority of R35 GTRs get abused, and yet the majority of them are on the road.
Yeah, they have problems, but they don't do that where they just die.
I do, I do think that I'm sure that there'll be either later cars or well looked
after ones and they're fine, but in our case, but yeah, that's firmly on my
at the top of the naughty list.
I remember what mine is.
That's tough one.
It's the Cayenne.
Oh, because the Cayenne, I think of literary of anyone in this, you know, in our
extended universe, me and him were the tightest.
I took that Cayenne everywhere to go and get pick up parts.
I went up to the top of the country across the country, all over in that car.
I think I probably did the most miles in this six, because this cup,
it was kind of communal between everyone.
I love it, and I loved it, and I literally moved it around today.
And when I got into it, I was like, you let us down.
It broke, we fixed it, we helped it, and then it died.
I think obviously it was fixable, but even then,
driving today after Taylor's done some work to it and got most of it back on running.
Doesn't feel the same.
He's he's lost his magic, his magic touch of being untouched.
And yet it would just feel like it would go forever.
Even moving it around there, I was like, you're going to break, aren't you?
You're not going to work.
He felt delicate after genuinely.
Yeah.
So I'm completely sorry, man.
Now I change mine to what mine went to.
I thought that let me down as well.
That's not fair.
It's another one.
That's bullshit.
That's not.
No, I'm not changing it.
I don't think you have that one at all.
I think I think it's fair.
Sorry, you beat it headed.
Not that much, Dave.
I'm not having deferred maintenance.
I got Ben.
No, no, no, no, no.
I wanted to.
That was maintained very well.
Yeah, before you, no, I did in that car, like 10,000 miles.
I did two service.
Hey, look, someone looked after that.
So that's what these people did.
It's like, it's like, it's like a hundred, a hundred K miles.
Well, I was off this.
It had a new belt.
I spent a lot of quite a lot of money on that car at the end.
I lost quite a lot of money on it.
But I'm saying is that it gave up after it.
Also, one of you kind of worked, which one of us, one of you said to me,
well, you only did like seven laps.
It should have, it should have survived that.
Yeah, yeah, look at your E36.
I'm glad it did eventually go.
Look at your E36.
Yeah, look at it.
You did like what?
50 laps in it.
Yeah.
And it was fine.
Do you know what, actually, my consideration, my dip, but it was one mountain.
By right.
Yeah, it's an entire gearbox dying.
My consideration for my, for my nautical was my blue clear.
Really?
Just because in the same fashion as the Jag, every time I did something,
something else would happen.
But I've now fine.
You know, I'm being cleansed myself.
You get your, what some honorable mentions for your good ones,
all good ones, good ones, glad to, obviously, both glad.
Well, actually, no, just my one.
What else is, who else has got things I need to remember things?
Ben, do yours.
Sorry.
Well, can I say, my old M3 as well?
Can I suggest one for you?
Yeah.
I'm not trying to speak for you.
But one I know you're like, the whirar are.
Oh, yeah.
Secret me.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
Because spirits.
Yeah.
But you experience, because we, you know, been left and you went back into the event
and sat and waited for it to go on the track.
And I listened to it good, as well.
Yeah, no, that is one of them.
But I've kind of heard that for, I'm trying to think of things that are the driven
or been in because that's what I think that makes it more special.
Driving my old M3 again was painful, but cool.
Glad to walk by and like I'm driving both of those very, very cool.
What else did we do in the U.S.?
How am I?
How am I?
I do love that, how am I?
I love it.
I don't think I'd put it up there as it's a memorable, it is memorable.
Well, I'll find that.
I remember that more than a lot of other cars were driven.
But the, the, the, the hellcat.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, sorry.
Actually, top of the list of the list that isn't the top as in third place.
It would go mostly like a glado Mustang.
Oh, yeah, that's, that car.
I would say it's the most memorable after I've forgotten it for the last five cars.
But that car, I think about regularly, it honestly was, I would like to buy
a car like that.
It would have to sit in a collection of other things.
You'd have to, yeah.
But it's the money.
It's that car is so cool.
I would, I was really impressed with that car.
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I want to say Mochelaga because you got to drive it.
I've got to drive that and I was mental.
What else would we?
I haven't driven very much because I see you guys have driven a lot of stuff.
I've been a passenger in it and filmed a lot of stuff.
Which is cool, so I can't really speak from that angle of it.
What have we had on the channel that?
I've driven it.
I've driven it. It's pretty cool.
That is very good.
Very good.
It drove me 16 and 5, very slowly.
That was good.
Yeah, that was really good.
Yeah, that was really good.
That is what it was like.
Oh, the Chevy Traverse that I rented for a day is a camera car.
Francisco.
Yeah.
That was good.
Well, that's name.
Yeah, that was it.
Yeah, because it's from San Francisco.
Did you enjoy filling that car up as well?
No.
No, very difficult.
Mine, oh, you don't, sorry, you're not done.
Sorry, you were so keen to real off a list.
That's what we had one prepared.
Interesting. You asked me the question.
No, that's what I was expecting.
Oh, I don't know.
I just think that S2000's still not mentioned.
Still not?
Yeah.
S2000's on the list.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that should be good.
Don't, the X5.
How'd that for me?
Now, now, hold.
That got me.
That has got me to so many shoots.
And it's done so much.
And that car did, it is us in the other day.
That is up there with the client
as one of the big heroes of TV.
Then just of my cement,
he just leanyed his X5.
I love you so much.
Bang straight to the back of the list.
No, what I'm saying is that that car
took will back and forward
from Northamps to here every day
for, like, how long?
Three months.
When I've described a daily track.
No, but it's a long journey, then me.
And then talk about it like it's a donkey or something.
What I'm saying is that that car,
that car never complained.
It had issues, but never complained.
Honestly, like, you know, it's never said a word.
It's fantastic.
It was a great car.
It was, yeah.
And Jamie, you know, it also says it's a fantastic car.
Exactly.
It really is a little knife in the ribs.
What I'm saying is that that car
has provided a lot of the TV this year.
It has a lot of tracking shots in that car.
Three different people that TV, well, yeah, of course.
Yeah, because I think that's up there for me.
I didn't drive that many cars.
I didn't drive a glado.
I drove a much longer briefly.
I didn't drive one.
George, I'll put that on the list.
Possibly the loudest ever car.
On the day that you got it.
Ben's ever growing list.
No, it was nice.
But there you go.
And you took us all each out in it.
That was nice.
That was a good day.
When it was loud, that was rather incredible.
Sometimes I do miss that.
Yeah, probably.
Everyone gone.
I have got right.
We've got Tuscan.
You said that by 50 is first blown out.
Then it's the Turbo TVR.
Oh, fair.
That is I will build.
And that also worryingly two TVRs on that list.
I don't want to become English man,
English car man because that's a rough one to get into.
I mean, while people listening with Rovers right now go.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Sorry, the TVR, I'll never forget when we had on the go-kart track.
And just from my last thing, just hearing all the turbo blow off every time
you went around corners was just great.
And then it's E55.
Because that guy, that's me.
I do believe that car is me, the most me car.
That's your boy.
Other than the Starlet, which was also very much me.
I was about to say I just thought two more.
And it was the Fiesta and the Corsa.
The Corsa, because that was right at the beginning of the year.
That was one of the, not first ones.
We did some other cool stuff on the channel.
But up until that point, we took that car out for the first time.
I was like, this is a really cool car.
Yeah, like a really, really cool car.
And then the Fiesta obviously that we're doing recently.
Yeah.
Is that, you know what I've been?
We've now listed off a big list.
Yeah, I was going to say enough.
A, if you don't watch TBC channel.
Apologies.
Thanks for sticking with that.
And B, we could probably do just,
we just do all of the cars on the channel.
Yeah, we only buy stuff.
We like it anyway.
Exactly.
A percent.
But thank you.
But let us know in the comments what your favorite cars that we worked on
or owned or drove this year.
Yep.
And some of your favorites tell us.
You're any, give us your, you know stories.
What you've been up to, we will have a read through.
Pack some non-Christmasy things.
But but still quite funny, hopefully.
We'll do some news things.
What have we got?
We've got Prabas and Bentley.
Ben, you know this.
I didn't know as a thing, but Ben you put it in.
I don't know a huge amount.
Okay.
I know that it's 888 horsepower Bentley Continental.
And what there is I put it in here,
well, I sort of read briefly.
And that as a Prabas machine, it's not bad.
The one that the, for the people who can't see it,
it's a Bentley Continental jazzed up,
which I think is still wrong because it's meant to be an elegant car.
But it is not ridiculous, Prabas.
Here's my, here's my opinion, my opinion.
My thought on why it's not good looking is because you'd be some,
some people will be hard pressed not to think that was just an OEM kit.
Yeah.
Which is weird because now the manufacturers that are doing
aftermarket stuff that stick more close to the OEM stuff
are better than if you look in the 80s, 90s,
like Conex Specials and stuff.
They're mental.
But they're cooler than just a little lip kit.
Yeah.
It's weird that it's now inverse because it's so terrible
like an end performance kit.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but also just a considerable amount more power.
888.
I think I'm fairly sure all Continental GTs now have V8s.
Oh, really?
I don't think the W12 is the thing anymore.
I'm pretty sure that this is a V8 as well,
which is what surprised me even more.
So I thought W12, surely,
the W12 has got headroom.
It's not that sort of stress of an engine.
Is this related to RS6,
Euros?
Is it that full-eater to the end of the V8?
Now, isn't the car the new facelift one hybrid?
That's what I'm just reading.
I might have made that up,
but I feel like I heard that.
A tuned version of the latest,
it's a plug-in hybrid Continental GT speed.
So some of that, some of that purer is coming out.
So they're adding in the electric motors.
So the, the, I think they already just,
the V8, no, no, it's in the back power.
No, no, there's in standards the Bentley has a,
is a plug-in hybrid.
Oh, okay.
It's just because it's just V8 now.
And I think someone will know something about something at all.
But I'm pretty sure it's just the twin turbo V8.
So the V8 now makes about 700 horsepower.
They've added almost 200 horsepower of,
of motors as in that's the Bentley side.
Okay, but still that's just a ridiculously fast thing.
I believe this, the power figure should never be combined.
I don't want to hear, because when I hear like 1000 horsepower,
whoa, I'm like 300 of that's electric.
No, no, I want to hear what the engine is.
But it's still making it.
Of course, no, I agree, but I want them as separate figures.
I want it, I want it to be 1000 horsepower combined.
Cool. Now I'm, because otherwise, I assume.
Yeah, exactly.
Otherwise, I assume it is just engine power.
Yeah.
With then that added on after.
And they go, oh, sorry.
Oh, you know, it's 900 horsepower of electric.
I know, one liter three-pot outback.
They'd be in WI.
I got some cream silence in the middle of that.
Another piece of news from Ben.
I'm hoping you might know something about this one.
I don't, MR, MR2.
Yeah, well, I actually wanted us to bring this up.
So we could all look through it together,
because I don't, I didn't know this was a thing apparently.
So from what I understand,
they have repatented the name MR2.
And then they have also talked about some form of development
in terms of reusing the engine from the G.I.
Yaris, let's say.
But I know nothing other than speculations.
I don't like the way that looks.
It looks, it looks very Gran Turismo,
which, yeah, I don't know,
if they made a small GRGT.
Well, that's what I was going to say.
I do think, though, with what we've seen,
if that's concept fine,
but what Toyota's converted into road cars,
I like what they've been doing.
Yeah.
So as long as they don't stray too far from that,
we'll get something cool.
I know it's way above what the MR2 was
in terms of like price bracket and class or whatever.
But if they made like a mirror spec,
it was cool, like Yaris engine or whatever,
or maybe a smaller version of that, B8, whatever.
And it was a mirror, sort of size and power and portions and manual.
Then I could hear it.
Well, the other thing is MR2s,
Mark 2s and 3s.
People always swapping V6s into them.
Maybe that would be cool to go into that,
to make it 20 years later when...
All right, we'll swap the engine.
Next up, Ben, another piece of your news
that you're looking quite blank in the eyes at me
when I say it is that the more news on the Genesis,
the design to make this.
Now, I only put that in for one point and one point only,
because Edwin actually did mention this earlier on.
Go on.
I think Genesis are making some of the best looking new cars.
I agree.
As well, the concepts of what they're doing.
So the Genesis, the G90, the wingback,
is what they're calling it,
is their wagon thing, the one that they debuted
that has the silly cool side strikes.
They have introduced some new information.
There's nothing solid on it.
They now believe...
Well, lots of people have been talking about
that it will potentially be that 3.2 V8,
same one that was going to be in big sports car in there.
But the man, the myth, the legend,
the, he's called, Luke Donkelwalk.
He's the guy who designed the glider and the mercy of our guy.
Hell yeah, what a guy.
He is the chief creative officer for Genesis.
And he said,
at the moment, there is, let's say,
a multiplication of SUVs.
And this fast growth will create a saturation.
This is when other typologies of cars
are going to become attractive again.
This is why I strongly believe in not having
a typology monoculture.
Now, get a little waffle.
Bro's saying too many suit.
Too many eight four by fours.
Yeah, two four by fours.
And you're all going to get one.
He's saying, run me some wagons.
Yeah, give me a mistake.
So, if the man who is designing the Mini MX-5,
no, the Lamborghini Galado Mercilago,
and also I just looked on here at some other cars
that he has done, this man has done,
he's Belgian, he has done, he's Belgian.
Head of design at Lamborghini from 98,
meaning he did the Lamborghini Diablo VT,
the Mercilago, and the Galado.
He was also voted.
Where did I see this here?
Nobel Peace Prize?
No, not that one.
I'd give him that.
Just the most log alone.
This is, I love this.
This is really good.
So he was the design director of Volkswagen Group Bentley,
Lamborghini, Scoda, and Audi.
In 2022, a jury panel,
so he went, went to court for this,
of 102 journalists named him,
the World Car Person of the Year,
for significantly improving the automotive industry.
I did not.
Now B, I want that.
Yeah.
I want TDC to get that.
World Car People of the Year.
I think we should at least choose it.
We should be the sideers of World Car Person of the Year.
I'd like to be in the jury for it.
Turns out Ben wins.
The World Car Person of the Year.
But if not the first of the year,
if the World Car Person of the Year is behind this,
please, man, we're so close to greatness.
Yeah.
Please make it happen.
And it has an actual engine,
and it looks very nice.
It's not over-complicated.
It's not ridiculous.
I will be, you know what?
This is the type of thing
that I would put myself in the horrible debt to finance.
I do the like 600 billion pound balloon payment
that I could never pay off knowing for a while
that I at least get like six months of use.
It does have, it has slight areas of sort of
take-hand coach-built take-hand.
Or like the, was it the cross-take-hand?
But that's in the previous photo,
where it has that, yeah, a little cut out on the hard part
on the wide arch.
Just nice.
Simply, little bits of design like that
are what's missing, where they go,
actually, I think we'll just put line that actually.
Only thing is, and zeds and crosses.
That with the front plate was going to ruin that front end.
No, I think it'd be okay.
I think you go one over here.
You know, that's a V-shaped plate.
Look, it's going to look, it's going to ruin that front.
That's a lovely little middle section.
You know what, Genesis confirmed.
Don't want people to run plates.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
You don't need it.
You don't need it.
It'll block it.
It'll block the air or whatever.
Sir, yes, sir.
I'm very, very impressed.
Shout out to you, Genesis.
And that is all the news we've got.
Now, next on this list,
before we get to some more Christmassy things,
is we were quite lucky.
We got invited to the Ford Heritage Center.
Oh, hell, yes.
Ford reached out, Ford Racing reached out to us.
Somehow.
And said,
love your, love your work.
Do you want to do something?
And we said, love your work.
And we said, oh god, I love your stuff.
And we specifically requested.
Can we go, the first thing?
We're on the phone with them.
And we said, we would like to come to the Heritage Center.
They said to us,
oh, we said, can we please come to the Heritage Center?
They said, oh, we thought you could ask us
for like press cars and access to things.
No, no, we just want to look around your old cars.
No, that's the next question.
We're looking to ask.
But the first thing was Heritage Center.
So there lots of manufacturers have a heritage fleet.
But there are more and more now
that are getting rid of them,
selling them for a Renault.
Just got rid of some concepts recently.
Got sort of French fleet.
Mitsubishi really sadly sold off their entire fleet
in the UK a few years ago.
And they also sold for a ridiculous money.
They're like, there was a Tommy Macon and signed by Tommy Macon
and we were ridiculously low miles.
And it's quite sad because they're never ever
going to get those cars.
No, once that cannot, once it's gone,
you're never going to buy those cars back.
But it seems that lots of manufacturers don't really care.
No, about that.
It's just a sort of black hole that's like,
well, it's not selling cars.
So why do we need it?
Yeah, whereas the Ford one is,
and it's not just a few cars.
No, Audi have got a few and whatever.
The best thing, if you're if you're real nerds like us,
it's not just the best, it's not just RS's
or Escort Mexico's.
There's just Mark three and four fiesters in there.
Yeah, it's normal ones, but nice ones, yeah.
So Ben, you a usual video like us walking around Retro Power.
How long was that?
I was going to say this, right?
So a usual sort of walk around like this,
we would do probably 20 minutes.
And we're there most of the day and we get,
it feels like we shoot quite a lot for it.
Yeah, I wasn't there.
No, Jay, other videographer,
went to film with you guys.
He said, I'll send you the footage this evening.
I didn't receive the footage, which was interesting.
I was like, okay, message Jay.
He said, yes, sorry, it's still transferring.
There's so much of it.
Next day, it comes in.
It's a lot.
Anyway, fast forward today.
Joe, other editor has been on it.
He sent through a one hour, 20 minute edit.
And that is, and he says, I've cut everything out
that I think I can without losing content.
And I was like, which means you guys,
I mean, that's that's an Aaron 20 minutes of pure video.
Yeah, well, that's four hours.
I was very in mind.
We spoke about 70% of the cars.
Yeah, well, if that actually, we actually,
Charlie, who works at Ford,
said to us, what cars do you want to look at?
And he then sent us a list.
And he said, you sure you want the full list?
You don't have to tell me you're interested.
And we said, no,
then that's the full list.
And by Jeves, it was a list.
Not all of it's there.
Some of the cars, they go out to events,
or they go out to the US, or whatever else.
But it was a list of well in excess of 100 cars.
Well in excess.
And we sent a few back that we were interested in
and talked about most of them.
Yeah, be fair.
So this collection is not public.
They're considering making it public.
So you won't be able, nobody can just go in and look at this.
So we're very, very thankful that they let us in.
If you want over the Christmas period,
then is it coming over Christmas?
No, no, in a few weeks time,
ninth of January, there you go.
In a few weeks time, if you are looking for things to do,
you can watch over an hour of us being genuine nerds
about forwards.
But more important than that,
God have given us to press cars over Christmas.
Yeah.
And it's been, it's up to you to do something.
Yeah, because I've researched out a day like this.
Because they have given us just so kindly,
a dark horse Mustang and a Ranger Raptor
will get to what I get one for Christmas.
Ben, unfortunately, nothing for you yet.
That's okay.
We'll sort of sport care or something with you.
Yeah, that's like a fiesta one liter.
Oh, gone mate, gone.
Yeah, actually not gone.
We'll talk about that in coming weeks back, supposedly.
Um, I had that dream again.
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We're drowning in paperwork.
Then actually drowning.
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I said, an electric car.
I've given a lot of thought to this.
So Ben, you need to choose who gets what car first.
I don't want to offend any of you, though,
because we'll swap over Christmas
so we each get a turn in each.
So if we've got like three weeks ish with the car,
right, I'll choose under one condition.
You get, I know it's hard to get exact,
but I want you to both have equal amounts to have each car.
Yeah, okay.
Because if it's a case of one person,
you get it for like two weeks and everyone gets it for four days,
I feel like a bit of a penis giving one person.
Not their worst cars, but we will swap between.
Because also the thing I want to try them both.
So I don't care that much.
But it's your, you must choose who you've already decided.
Okay, here we go.
Okay, no offense to anyone if you don't,
I mean, they're both great cars.
We're not saying that.
I don't know what's good.
A politician Ben is right.
I don't want to.
I don't want to be the only one.
Only us.
Right.
Edwin, hello.
You're taking the the the ranger because
and you're taking and you're taking
where you're taking the Mustang.
And there's a reason for this, right?
Okay.
Edwin is.
You're a country living man.
I think over Christmas, I can imagine you doing
the Christmas shop again.
You're a big SUV.
Nice.
A big truck.
But you can't imagine me doing skid out of junctions.
I can't do that with the bike.
I think that's a,
well, do we start the year?
Put it that way.
Okay.
I think that you over Christmas when you know it's
you want to get cozy in that car,
you have in that and I think we'll
whilst you know, you know,
there's no McGann in your life currently.
So perhaps performance car.
He has thought that is that's fair.
And I wouldn't have thought of it like that.
I was quite excited about
both to be fair.
But what's quite exciting is that those cars
are being de-fleeted basically afterwards
so that they won't be pressed on any of them.
Do what we want, no?
So we're forced forward.
I promise we will.
So we get to keep them now.
But we're the last ones.
Yeah.
We'll be like, there will be journalists
everywhere driven those cars.
And we are going to be the final ones.
Not journalists.
But still very, very cool.
We've had, we haven't really had many press cars.
We've had the Dacia Sandero,
which we've had the Renault 5.
Yep.
And we've had that's maybe it.
The Ford.
That's it.
At least two Ford's, which are the most exciting
out of all of those really.
So thank you very much, Ford.
Merry Christmas, Ford.
Is that okay?
Well, I've checked.
That's how happy that's.
I'm happy.
Not one's better than the other.
I just didn't want someone to be like,
I really was looking forward to that one specifically.
I'll be honest, I legit have been excited
for both equally.
Okay.
Well, I want you to swap it for Christmas.
Yeah.
So we're going to get there's a Monday.
There will be videos that we will do
two separate videos on each car on the second channel.
We also might have if Ford decide
that they don't quite like us.
We'll have some more videos coming
with some of the other driving
sort of like heritage fleet.
Ford GT is getting day-lead.
No, well, this is the thing we did.
They worked well to give you,
it's not just like UK spec boards.
They have everything from models,
race cars, rally cars,
all the way up to the end.
No, no, no, no more.
Some of them are drivable as well.
Two, the most recent Ford GT.
Yeah, and we sent of Mark III of Mark I.
If you're an ad, you know what that means.
Mark I, Ford GT from the 60s.
Mark II, 2005 and Mark III.
It was quite scary, actually,
because they have GT40,
05 GT, and then the 2017 GT right next to each other.
I wouldn't say they're all easy cars to get in and out of.
And they're not parked close, like supermarket close.
But they're close.
Also Ben, I don't know if you know this.
We actually like children.
They said to us,
by the way, you can sit and sit in them.
And so with them, I excitedly ran around sitting in cars.
We wanted to sit in.
And we took turns sitting in the 2005 GT and going,
literally holding steering wheel and going,
do you send a brand new GT?
Not brand new one.
Wilded, but the most real.
Yeah, it's very cool.
Is it?
Yeah, and it is very easy to get in and out of.
You know, it's very graceful.
It's not graceful.
And we had to specifically ask,
because the GT is like electric door hinges
and whatever else, and the battery was dead.
Is it, you might not be able to open it.
And they're very kindly said that they would go and do it.
So you went and got the manual key and did it.
Also, actually, do you know what?
Shout out to the guys that run that place.
Meg, a lot of you will think that it's
a million people running it.
There are two guys and a volunteer guy who comes in
and they clean them.
They maintain them as if they're their own cars.
And he said, so they don't,
they don't have any budget from thought to do this.
They have, they have to spend their own money
and then they get expense back anything they need to do.
But they are on Facebook Marketplace looking for parts
to fix these cars.
Yeah.
And even, you'll see in the video,
they are immaculate.
This is unbelievable.
Like, they go out, these cars get,
go out and get driven.
They come back, they clean them, they detail them,
they polish them, and they are,
because we've been to quite a few heritage-type things
where they're kind of forgotten.
Yeah.
The cars just sit.
Whereas Ford Man in England,
he's keeping those nice.
And there's got the MOT slips on passenger seats
because they're maintaining them.
They look after them at literally as if they're their own cars.
And they kindly said to us,
we can not do where we want,
but we can open them, have a look at them,
and it's not just broke,
there are quite special,
there are development cars.
That's really cool.
There are some Escort Cosworths
with some really cool stories.
They're all pre-production development cars.
They were test cars, press cars.
The RS500 Focus, that was the press car
that would have been the one that Alex drove.
Back in the day.
There were so many of those,
and some of them were still driven by journalists.
And really cool.
Not to get you too excited,
but there is a pink street care.
There is.
That was just a quick one.
Not sponsored, nothing to do with that.
Ford just said,
do you want to look around our showroom?
Yes.
Shout out.
Thank you very much, Ford.
We had four hours to, sorry,
five hours to be there,
and we used the entire time.
Depends the whole time.
They said anything, something email.
Thanks for being punctual,
and for using up the whole time.
But the guys, they're really, really cool.
They know their stuff.
I think they're really, they get a little bit hesitant
with some people that come in,
that might just come and mess around,
but I think they understood that we were,
we were one and the same.
Yeah, they weren't just studying in seconds,
when they made it.
Oh yeah, we walked in and I went,
is this, what is the color code on that?
Is that this one?
And they offered that from 71.
Yeah, that's it.
So a really cool place, if you ever do get an object,
I think they do it with car clubs sometimes,
or if you work at Ford,
if you ever do get to go there, go there.
Definitely.
Even if you're not into Ford's that much,
there are some cool cars with some really cool stories in there.
Next.
Next.
Back to Christmas, we're out of news,
we're all out of things.
Christmas, is it time to?
I think we're on to,
we decided to do a secret center,
but just between the three of us.
So it's not secret because it's basically impossible
to do that secretly.
I wonder who I've got.
Yeah.
Who was I first?
Is it rock paper?
This is the top.
Do you know what Ben, I think,
do you like yours first?
Now, so who's got who?
I've got Ben.
I've got Edwin.
And I've got Will.
I think we've sat perfectly for that.
Do you know what?
I don't know.
I can go first.
All right, cool.
I'll give Edwin his present.
Let's do that.
Okay, let's do that.
I need to get it from my car.
I know what it is.
You know what it is?
I actually think this is quite a good present,
but also maybe it isn't, so enjoy that.
Okay, well that's, you know,
always nice to temper expectations.
It's got you a nice carbon handbrake.
It's just his dick.
So you have a good Christmas or even busy, mate.
Everyone nanny in Brussels sprouts again.
Oh, there we go.
Sorry for those listening.
Ben's alarm's gone off on his daily driver.
Oh, here he comes.
Here we go.
Yeah, my alarm got off.
I did hear your alarm go off.
Now, what?
No, sorry.
What?
I'll wait till.
What is this?
Right, Ben's back in his seat.
Ben's back in and he's brought in.
No, because we're sitting at a broadcast,
you're going to have to throw it.
I'll bring it to you a second.
Okay.
Well, I'll say I'm a preface.
Oh, bro, bro, I've got a month.
I've got a preview.
Number one.
He's currently 11th of December.
I think it's not around that time.
I haven't bought you wrapping paper yet.
No, this isn't how Christmas present works.
No, no, no.
You don't give a, you don't pre-empt what people are going to say.
You just give the gift to them and let the gift do the talking.
No, so I had no, I had no wrapping paper,
so I have had to use tin foil.
Okay.
Is it a rose chicken in there?
Shout out to my brother who gave me this idea.
It's quite good though, isn't it?
Because you don't need a salad tape.
Ben is going to hand me a literal, it is, you know,
a shoebox-sized thing covered in tin foil.
It does look like food.
It does not fit.
It's sort of a scammer or something.
Oh, and have your present.
This is in vain of, of, of, of,
Hey, it's, it's, it's in, it's,
it's, it's, um, inspiration for next year.
Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
You think I spot fans?
Thanks so much.
Here we go.
Thanks so much.
I'm going to wait.
I do.
We are aware that this is an audio podcast, so
you must make sure that we're using.
Edwin is on the wrapping.
I've opened it.
I've opened it.
It's a fleece of some sort.
Now, I'll be honest.
A fleece, I'm already happy.
I know.
I'm already happy.
Oh, no, that's actually very cool, Ben.
That is.
That is a Ferrari fleece.
That is also, that's a legit 1998 Ferrari fleece.
That's insane.
Now, you, now I told Will, and he made a good point,
which is that if you wear that in your 550 when you get it,
you will look like a penis.
Oh, really big time.
But it's inspiration.
Now, now, here's what's going to happen.
The other option is that, oh, it smells like rich people.
I don't know.
It really does.
It smells like general moves.
It smells like old rich people.
It smells like old rich people.
This is a smell like Ben, doesn't it?
This is a very cool gift, Ben.
Thank you very much.
That's okay.
There are the two options.
I wear it in the unit and ruin it.
Or only wear it when I drive a 550.
No, you can't do that.
Which is a huge penis move, which I like.
I would like to do.
Although I will say, it's not as bad as some Ferrari stuff.
You know, you get Ferrari, man, who's got ready for a Ferrari hat.
Yeah.
Red jacket with all the sponsors on.
Whereas that is, it's a black fleece with a Ferrari logo.
Exactly.
You could feasibly be a salesman or whatever.
Wait, I left the price on it.
Don't look at that.
Is it beyond the budget?
We did set a budget.
We did set a budget.
We may have lost it.
Do you know how much?
Do you know?
Oh, bloody hell, Ben.
Can't believe it.
But only because I paid for next day's shipping.
Ben, this is very nice.
Now, thank you very much.
There's one thing.
It's a large.
Yes.
But the measurements on the website were that of an extra large to an XL.
Okay.
So it should fit you.
After this, I'm going to try it on.
But I'm going to see.
For context, I used to...
I quite like...
Just just...
Sorry.
I know.
Just interrupting you.
Because you're a 2 XL.
Yeah.
And I'm like a 2 XL.
I'll talk like an XL.
What size are you in?
Like a large.
Oh, interesting.
That was a...
You bought himself a gift.
No, I want...
So I'm going to try it on.
It's too small for really guys.
Oh, it doesn't fit me.
No.
I can take that.
Oh, I mean, I'll wear it for you.
No, it doesn't fit me.
Oh, you mean you look silly in the Ferrari anyway.
So I might as well.
It's...
It's...
It's inspiration for your purchase next year.
You know what?
It's happening next year.
The context being is that I...
I quite like vintage clothing.
Say...
I used to wear for a company that sold it and that sort of thing.
And I keep...
I used to come in as like Carthorod's stuff with different things.
And we've got...
Oh, that's cool.
That's great.
That's great.
That's great.
That's great.
I've got vintage Lamborghini.
I wear it in the glado.
Yeah.
You are...
But the Lamborghini...
Now, I've found...
Now, I've found that.
Have you ever told a story about your...
your puff jacket in the Lamborghini?
I do have a bright yellow puff jacket.
That's something you might've seen on the channel once or twice.
So...
And my girlfriend has banned me from ever...
just being within 100 metres of...
Of...
In the Lamborghini.
It looks a little bit Charlie Sloth when you're with the Lamborghini.
It looks really quite interesting.
Sort of like someone in the back of a central sea video.
Yeah.
But it's...
it's a little bit rough. Right. I won't match those. Is it is it my turn for you? Let's do it.
Here we go. I've got mine just down here. I don't know what this is. Edwin. I asked
I know. Oh my god. I asked Edwin today. Have you got Will's thing? And he said,
I hope fingers crossed it comes today. Now there are two there are two presents. I'll be honest.
The hell is that? Here we go. Why have you bought me a Swedish flag? No, well that is
is I didn't have wrapping paper either. So I used two microfibers and some tape.
That's quite good. That's quite good. It's light. Now I'm interested to see you may actually
have this and I'm really hoping you don't. So this is, we'll see. It turns out it's a full size
Lamborghini Glado because it's really tight into a box. Is it a pack of C4? I'm really
happy you haven't got it. You already have one of these already. Okay, it's a Russian doll.
We're going into the box. Yeah, no, I'm quite lazy. I just repackaged it from eBay. It's
taped with that's quite strong tape. This is like Christmas where you watch someone open a gift
and you're like just open it. The box is open. I get really nervous for our gifts. Sorry, everybody.
Oh, sorry, everybody. Here we go. That's not a very nice way. You get nervous around.
I don't know. I get nervous receiving them and giving them. Okay.
Will's opening up. Here we go. Hold the line.
Throwing the box. There's nothing left in there. Where's the fire for Dad to put the fire in?
To put the stuff in the fire. Are we ready? There you go. Oh, what's this?
On the way. Yeah, I can see. I can see and I can tell you if it is what I think it is.
My mind doesn't have it. Wow, we're so good. That is cool. Explain what those are.
These are Lamborghini gloves. They're not like driving gloves. These are for working. They are for
when fixing the Lamborghini. When you own a Lamborghini and you've got to change a tire,
jeez isn't able to come out and help you. You're going to have to change the tire yourself.
Lamborghini provide you with gloves to be able to fit the tires. Where to find those?
They are called service gloves. I scoured the internet and I did find them. Now, I believe
they are either very late mercilago or raw right at the beginning of a vent at all.
Okay. But I believe they are the correct. They're a little bit if they were mega nerd stuff here.
I did actual research on this because I tried to find glado. Glado ones have like a black
seam but super late like SV and SV mercilago and vent doors were full white like that.
This is really cool because I've looked at these and I've looked because I wanted to buy it.
You normally get it in the toolkit, I think. Yeah, it's okay. And then these will be in there.
And I couldn't find any for the glado. Also, they're very expensive. But these. I don't want to use
them for working on white gloves. Why gloves for that? It's ridiculous. We're going to come to your
house and you're going to be making pizzas with those on. Just oven gloves. They are oven gloves.
But these are cool. I might use these on the sim. Oh, that's good. That's a great sim glove.
But I was a very comfy. And again, if we're going to go for a smell test like the Ferrari,
does it have a rich vibe? Yeah, sort of like just quite like an Italian thing.
Are they? Are they leather? I believe so. Yeah, I think they smell like leather because they've got
the old suede inside. Yeah. They don't smell used, which is nice. They've got a little bit of
no, it said they were unused. But no one's ever actually used them. Now I have to actually change
a wheel. Would you like your second gift? Or should we go to Ben's first? Let's have because I've
got three for Ben, but I'm not being. I'm not trying to be to upstage everyone. Two of them
with racing. In that case, let me do mine. And then we can end on the big, the big three.
All right. Why is it? Why have you got? Did anyone stay in budget? No. Yeah.
All right. I feel almost actually. I was 50 p.m. You were closest to the budget.
I got told there was a budget. I saw the budget. I mean, sorry, I'm just having a
wrestling match. There's a microphone in the corner and the foil on the floor.
All right. Looks like a crack down now. Do you need a hand or are you good?
Okay. Cool. Are you okay to pull the muscles? I'll go in. Yeah.
If it's the most of it, I would actually, I would suck. Would you cry again?
Yeah. Funny. I would though. Yeah. I'd cry my absolute eyes out.
Oh, guys. Laughing. I don't want to see this.
Why? You could open them now. I thought seeing as you're back, those got smashed in.
It's a back door. I'd get you a new back door. That's my back door. Where did you get this back door from?
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Hang on, I'll take a photo. You can't see on camera. The whole thing will overlay that.
So, for audio listeners, this is an actual just a whole back door. I want to get out.
I don't. I'll put it on the side. I'm very grateful for my back door.
No worries. Being repaired. As an extra back door. As an extra layer of protection
perhaps for my back door. Do you even got a bolt lock on it, which is lovely?
What do you do with such an item?
What are you going to do with it? Well, I'll keep it.
Well, you're going to put it. You never know. You decided you were going to put it yet?
Yeah, my back door. But if we hadn't your back door.
Well, I might replace that back door.
With that back door, I wasn't expecting that at all.
I knew it was. I spoke around the corner. I was like, what?
Right, Benjamin. Are you ready for your, for your...
Also, can we know this receiving gift?
It's a very small game to play after this. It's Christmas after all.
So, we're going to play Monopoly. I've been dreading this.
I can't, because it's... I've never found out we'll have mail.
That's like great. It's a clown costume.
With a clown car. I'm going to have to wear it all day.
You did think I bought you a tailored clown outfit.
Alas, I'm actually not that mean.
Well, the proper...
Now, hold on.
Now, this isn't your little stocking.
Well, you wrapped it properly as well.
Now, I'm going to wait until you're back to your mic before I say anything.
Do you know what this is?
Yes, I don't.
No, I don't. You issue. I thought you know what it is.
Do you know what it is?
That's it, Christmas.
Do you know what it is?
Yeah.
Now, you did not wrap that.
No, not at all. I asked my girlfriend to wrap it.
I knew it. I knew it.
What do I open first? Is there a specific order?
Pull them out.
Okay, I have one.
I have one.
The presents out.
Not that one.
I have one last.
I have two.
You can do that one first.
I have.
Okay, this one first.
I have it's in one of sorts.
Now, that's surely that's grandma's card
that slipped the little fiber in that sleeve.
Get yourself a dandelion.
That's nice to start with.
This is a doctor on cool thing,
which I can I assume is for my car.
Yeah, it's got a little stuff from a couple of it.
Joe, I might actually put it in my car just as a joke.
Now, it's quite good because when the doctor comes up behind you,
they go fellow like me.
He's going to flash him.
He's going to the same place.
It's okay.
I better let him go.
I just thought, you know, for legal reasons, it might help you.
Thanks.
That's that's wonderful.
Thank you very much.
Reminds me of my therapy part of the year.
Okay.
Okay, the next one should be good then.
You okay?
Oh.
Oh, there we go.
Yeah, good for an audio podcast this time.
I'll try and hang it up.
I'll put it out the way.
I'll put it in my car.
Which is the next?
To go for the next one in the hat.
This one?
Yep.
He's just going to stretch out to my girlfriend
wrap these about 10 o'clock.
I'll tell you what, she's done a great job as well.
She's a fantastic wrap.
Anything I wrap every year is my girlfriend's presence
and that's because she can't wrap her own presence.
Or I get my mum to do it.
Here we go.
What's this?
Now, what is this?
That is a...
That's how I'm disiring.
What are you saying?
Yeah, which are I saying?
No, I will say.
It was difficult to find a green one.
Oh, it was probably because they don't actually exist.
That's because it wasn't actually.
It wasn't green in real life, was it?
It was yellow.
So you have got...
So what Ben has now basically got is he can do a jean hum impression.
And it's like a blue siren.
It is not...
It is one of those detective lights
that they slap on the top of the roof of their car.
I know only chase after them.
You will need a different car to put it on
because that won't go on the S2000.
No, I can't put it on the car.
Do you know what I like more?
Is the idea of an ambulance making it past Ben?
I mean, popping that out onto the roof
and then going back to chase it to get in front of it?
Fire up the S2000.
Okay.
It matches the S2000 as well.
Thank you very much.
I'm just asking, I'm bullying.
I'd put batteries in that, so you know.
Do you want the back?
Yeah, over budget.
That's three AA's.
So here we go, the final present.
Final present, which I believe is actually quite nice, Ben.
Is it going to be...
I'd follow up two bullying presents with one nice one.
Two rules of the run we might say.
Thanks for that.
I was going to give you that.
These are fantastic.
What is this?
Here we go.
I believe it is also still bullying.
I feel like you're going to believe it.
Yeah, that one, that is a bomb.
Wow, that's actually sick.
What is it, Benjamin?
It is.
Is this diecast as what it is?
Yeah.
Is it diecast model of an S2000?
That's very...
Is it the exact specs?
It's the exact specs.
I mean, exactly.
Oh, wow.
Doesn't have your stretch tires in your aftermarket wheels.
Yeah, but it is the exact specs.
AP1 and the same color.
Is it a little bit of brown on that rear arch?
Just on the edge of it.
This one must have been garage-kept.
There's nothing on the back of that.
Thank you very much.
That's very cool.
I tried to find a 1 to 18.
Didn't have it.
So what is that?
That was a bigger scale.
Wow.
That's a 1 to 43.
Yeah.
This one is one you can't open the box off,
because it makes it.
No, you can't.
I don't care.
I've taken my 550 out of its box.
Also, if we ever talked about that,
you have a glado.
1 to 18.
I have a 550, 1 to 18.
Sitting on our desks.
This is sick.
I have a muscular logo on that.
I've now put it next to the glado
and I look at it every now and then.
That's it.
That's it.
Look at that.
That's sick.
That's sick.
Good stuff.
Thank you very much, William.
It might even be like an official Honda thing as well.
It looks very easy to do.
It's got Japanese riding on the bottom
and it's only got Honda branding on it.
That's really cool.
Oh, make sure.
Don't not just swallow it.
It says.
Oh,
big Christmas lunch from then.
It cuts back to me.
The box is empty.
No.
Thank you very much.
Merry Christmas to the cream gang
and also to all of you at home.
Happy holidays.
I hope you've had a good day.
If you're working,
if you're at home,
whatever it is.
That sounded like the outro of the podcast.
We're like, no, in it.
No, no, we've got other bits to get.
Just a quick note.
Let us know what bits things you get for Christmas.
I know car people are incredibly either easy
or difficult to buy for,
but it's not a very nice gift for people to buy
when a family member or a partner
or whatever comes to you and says,
what do you want for Christmas?
Can I get a double-deen head unit?
Yeah, I remember.
Spanner.
Many times we may have even talked about it
on the podcast before,
where my mom would say,
what do you like for Christmas?
And I'd say car parts.
And she go,
I'm not buying you car parts for Christmas.
But it's the thing that would make me most happy.
I've asked for them in the past,
but I've refused now because I think,
like, I'm going to sell that car at some point.
Yeah, and it's going to have a Christmas gift on it.
It can't really...
I can't, as the car drives away,
I go, oh, actually, can I...
Can I take that intake off?
Because it is a Christmas present.
Can I get those wheels back?
It will see Christmas that time.
You'll bring those.
Bring your wheels.
Right, it is Christmas after all.
So let's play a small game.
We can't play ball games
because it's podcast and no one can see.
No, we're doing.
So I thought, we play who said this?
Okay.
So on the podcast, just around YouTube,
many things have been said.
Okay.
Sure.
But I want to test if you know who said what thing.
Some of them are very obvious.
Some of them, I'm not sure.
I think Edwin might get lots of these
because he, like me, has it.
Yeah.
Whereas Ben, you may not.
Berlin was no time for lovers in 1964.
I know what I know that is.
Well, yeah, this is actually a reference.
Well, Ben, got the...
Richard Porter.
Richard Porter.
A classic Smith and Sniff quote,
worth, always worth listening to.
If you've run out of creams,
go and listen to Smith and Sniff.
And then come back to green.
You know what they are?
Smith and Sniff are the older wiser TDC.
Yeah, is what, you know,
if you need to be able to listen to it around family,
there's you go too.
My granddad is on his way out.
And I'm washing him.
How that is you.
I think it is you.
It was, I can't remember what it was we were talking about.
But yeah, I think so.
That was Ben.
That was me.
Now, I will say some credit will have to go to sea laser.
Of course, Alex,
because I'm not sifting through Harold.
My cussed.
So I went through, because obviously that is kind of a best bit.
So I'm going to do that.
And God hell, there's been some,
just out of context and ridiculous things.
Yeah, my granddad is on his way out.
And I'm washing him.
Is you Ben?
I don't even want the context.
I don't know the context.
We don't need the context for any of these.
Definitely, I'd ever say that.
Ding.
I'm in the fog.
I am the fog.
That feels like Edwin.
Yeah, I always get my first reaction was me.
That was me.
That was me.
I don't know context that I'm assuming we are talking about fog.
Yeah, in that.
But also in talking about it was ways.
Yes, it was it was talking about making people
saying that there is fog.
Now, this one might be obvious.
Debbie Binkles selling a Skyline R33.
Oh, man, I wonder who that is.
That's Edwin.
It's Edwin.
If you're shaving your legs to do a sport,
you've got an issue.
That's will.
I think that was me.
That is me.
That's cycling.
I went through these quotes and I realised
how much of a menace, Ben is the menace.
Ben is the menace.
Because I read them and I thought I could have said that.
Oh, one of us could have said that.
Sometimes I say things and then I get like a message.
If you're shaving your legs to do a sport,
you have an issue.
That is a straight up a chosen cyclist.
Yeah, it was at the time.
I think all these people cycling Christmas Day
right now, listen for a second.
Sorry, guys.
God, I haven't got to hit my life.
Make sure to get home in time for your turkey dinner
and your shave.
It was a man who's canoe had come slightly,
not fully, slightly a jar off of his car.
Edwin, that is me.
Because I'm still angry about it.
I will die before you go past me.
I was well.
Oh, God.
I don't know who that was.
Yeah, I will die.
I was going to leave that one to the last,
but I wanted to get that one out of the way.
Also, just once again, it wasn't, sorry.
Another one that we thought I think we should all get.
Hang on a sec.
I know how this sauce is made.
Now the context, we will add context to this one
because to most other people,
that was just a part of the point that is Richard Porter.
We basically made, we made a out of context part,
a joking part.
Do we ever post that?
Never mind.
We just sent it to Richard Porter.
We sent it to Richard Porter
and it was essentially just him saying things out of context.
Like, why would I, why would I,
why would I send something back to an office in Swansea?
Yep, some other things.
I could have used that entire video.
Yeah, sorry about Curry,
but it ended with hang on a sec.
I know how this sauce is made.
And it had a meme caption at the top
that was, oh, I can't remember.
Something about chefs.
That's a good hold on.
What I'm going to do.
It was chefs when you given their own sauce.
That's exactly it, chef.
Chefs, when you serve them their own bolognese sauce.
Which was just ridiculous when we sent it to Richard Porter
and he probably found it mildly funny,
but react and said, that was really funny.
We also said, that was the entire podcast.
If it's all right.
That was the full cut, ready to go.
Next one, you just piss into your own eyes.
Now, that was Will talking to me about cars,
if cars, the movie, if they were real people.
Yeah, and then someone said that headlights are eyes.
Yeah, and obviously with headlight washers,
the dem you to be pissing into your own eyes.
I've seen swirl marks in toilet seats.
Oh, who was?
That's Robin.
Yeah, that's Robin.
Because he has polished a toilet seat, I believe.
Just crazy.
Shout out Robin.
Merry Christmas, Robin.
We have a good day, man.
Four cylinders are okay, but more cylinders are okay.
No, no, I'm sure that that could have been any of us.
That wasn't me.
I was going to say it was me, but then I feel like it was you.
I think that's a will comment.
I think I'm going to say it's me.
It is an Edwin one, that's it.
Yeah, it is an Edwin one.
And finally,
down the peasant's up the rich.
That's got to be Ben.
That's Will.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's unfortunate.
They are all available in a sea laser video
and plus many more.
That list could have gone for a long, long time.
I had to delete many from that.
Good insight, Inter.
Our brains.
Yeah, yeah.
Let us know if you've got any of those at all.
If you're some of you keen, keen bean, keen creamers,
keen creamers on this creamers day,
may have got many of those.
Let us know what you got.
Well, that's all we have.
We've got Christmas activities.
How about cost activities?
You know what?
How about this?
I'm going to throw a curveball right at your noggin.
Oh, I got it.
This, no, you're going to hospital, mate.
What's your one of the year?
I got it.
Well, that's a big question.
Got it.
C6 Corvette.
That's still.
And you know what?
I think you're fair on that.
I mentioned it too many times.
You know what?
No, no, no, no.
How about this?
It's going to be a C6 Corvette.
It's going to be a Ferrari 550.
It's going to be a Masculoga.
It can't be your main dogs.
It's just something that's been constantly
in your brain the whole year.
I want that car.
Yeah, not so easy.
That was a tough guy.
Yeah, but Masculoga was, that's my easy go to for everything.
SLS AMG.
Oh, that's very interesting.
Tell us about that Benjamin.
I have an S2000.
No way.
I've never had a car the long bonnet before.
I drive that car and I sometimes forget that it's not that long,
but it's much longer than I used to.
But you like that man.
And I remember thinking I would quite,
I wonder what it's like driving an S SLS if this is long.
Oh, okay, so you don't actually even care.
And then I started looking at them and I was like,
wow, they're going up in value and then I started looking at them and going,
actually, that was quite under it a car.
So you've got SLS.
You've got a Z3M coupe.
You could go for long bonnet again.
You've got a G-R-G-T.
Oh, God yeah.
I'm going to go need it.
I could do that, but it's for me it's the SLS.
Just a cool, I think it just, hey, same engine.
Is it?
It was never, I thought it was never that.
I pointed it to the ML63 by the way.
It was never that hyped up.
Yeah, I think it is.
And it isn't.
Obviously some people, because it's the engine you get,
it's not not a special engine you grow up with.
But it is the engine that is in a four by four,
it isn't a C3.
So it does take some of the shine off of it.
But it is still a, a, a very cool look.
Also, doors.
Yeah, it has the doors.
No, do you know what?
I think the, if the SLR hadn't have come out,
if it had have started with SLS, the SLS,
the SLS would be much more avid.
Yeah, but because the SLR was like,
yo, we're here with a hypercar or a supercar.
What I don't like is the,
is it, I don't know if they call it a roadster?
I think it is a roadster.
I don't understand it.
Because you know the SLR and they came out with a roadster
and it still kept the doors.
The SLS, they went, here's the convertible.
Yeah, normal door.
It is one of its most appealing features gone.
But that's, you can have that in a 300 SL.
That's true, that's fair.
There is a going about going.
It's not a going,
but it's just called a 300 SL.
That exists.
It is, it's quite pretty actually.
But it's a going of a convertible.
No, no, so the original going.
Yeah, you could, it's just called a 300 SL.
Oh, sorry, it hasn't got goings when it's,
yeah, there is a convertible,
which is just normal.
That's fair.
And they're not worth anywhere near as much money,
but they are still lovely.
That's fair.
That's fair.
I like that.
SLS.
Good for me.
Good for you.
Any other notable mentions in there?
Well, like,
this is by me sometimes.
I am trying to.
GTR, Nissan GTR.
As usual, R35.
Yeah, just a great machine.
I don't feel for my father.
BMW M2.
Nice.
Very nice.
So really would like,
if I had the money,
I'd go out and buy one tomorrow.
What happened to the,
what happened to the Cayman bed?
Yeah.
He'll be here one day.
Okay, so that is still something.
I think I think he's tap at some point.
I can't afford one,
but at some point, maybe.
I see you with the GT4.
I heard it.
I've heard it.
Really?
That's where it's like soft spec.
Top-end Ben.
So I see myself more with GTS.
I think I'm a GT4, man.
I don't know.
I think you're going to have to make yourself fast.
Fastest man on earth, remember that?
You were a driver.
Probably spent it.
If I had a,
if I had GT4 money,
I'd buy a V12 Vantage.
Oh, man.
Do you see your, Ben?
You're a cultured man.
That's my guy.
This must have been your drinking 1960s wine.
Because your little cum yak for the buy.
What a port.
I...
Do you know what what a mine is?
We actually tend to steer clear
of BMWs on this channel.
Not personally, obviously, we buy lots of them.
But they tend to not enter my mind that much.
But an F10M5 has been with me all year.
And it's because of Will.
Will have one.
And I love that car.
I think at times,
I love that car more than you did.
Yeah.
Not that you didn't love it.
But I just...
Will would turn up to play something like,
Ah!
Yes, Ben!
That's great.
That was...
I do think about that car quite regularly,
with Fair.
But that was a really cool one,
also recently.
Jay showed us the Japanese import that had cloth.
So there were two types of seats in an F10M5.
Normal looking ones.
Which are horrible.
They're really not nice.
And then they have the comfort seats.
Like, Ben, you have the X5.
Normal and comfortable seats.
The comfort seats.
If you ever have an option on a BMW,
go for the comfort seats.
Just to show the life.
Incredible.
That can't be.
No, it's great.
They should name them.
It has adjustment in the top of the seat,
which is a game changer.
Genuinely huge.
But this F10M5 didn't have leather
had cloth,
like it had fabric seats
with air conditioning in the seats.
They were, what do you call it, perforated?
Yes.
Genuinely, I had heads-up display with night vision.
Cool, man.
Now it was a huge spec.
F10M5.
Usually, in that sort of car,
I believe it should have sporty seats
and it should be sporty,
because it is sporty.
But something about having,
effectively, your living room
that has how much top power.
700 horsepower with a downpipe.
That is the charm of that car.
Exactly.
And although I will say,
a standard F10M5 options
will be very comfortable.
It will be a good car.
Of course, yeah.
But, I don't know if it's
because the one I had was quite a nice spec.
It wasn't super high spec,
but it was things like the leather dash.
Yeah.
When you get into a car where it's got a leather dash
and then you get to the plastic dash
and the basic seats,
it almost feels like a completely different car.
It goes from, it's the same thing with your CL.
It goes from feeling like,
a car, I think, to move you from A to B to,
oh, yeah.
This is special.
There's something kind of nice being in here.
Alcantara headlight,
like those kind of little bits.
Absolutely would have been an expensive option,
but they add so much.
And it is very posh, you have it.
But now, when the prices have come down to where they are,
the difference between a base model one
and granted, you'll have to wait and look for one
and be hopeful that a good one comes up.
But it's gonna be like 1,500 quid to 2 grand.
Yeah.
Spend that little bit time,
little bit further time saving
or doing whatever you need to do to get towards that.
Because that is, it makes such a difference.
Yeah, is it?
So it's a spec dependence.
F10 and F5 is in my head
and the other thing that is in my head,
do you know what?
This is the sounds, this is the sounds very,
I don't even know what.
355 Ferrari is the only other thing sometimes
while I'm doing my nightly affirmations.
No, my nightly ritual of searching every website
on the internet for Ferrari 550's.
A 355 will pop up and I go,
do I like that more than the 550?
We saw some out in Monterey,
which I think we went to last year.
This year.
That's crazy anyway.
But seeing a 355, again,
another thing that's kind of,
you see what in the right spec
with a challenge grille of whatever else you go,
that really is.
I think it is a fantastic looking thing.
I think it's because I don't actually think
it matters what generation you grew up with.
That shape of car is Ferrari, Supercar, is wedge.
That's like, you know, red car fast.
Yeah, that's what that is.
Even, you know,
it's the famous, the Fast and Furious thing
that he pulls up alongside a 355.
Yeah, there is,
and there'll be a lot of people to go,
I'd do it the Super every time.
I still look at the 355 and you go,
and he revs it.
And I'm like,
it's still pretty cool.
I watched that two nights ago.
I still love that.
I'm like, I know what?
The Super might be quick, but that's okay.
It sounds amazing.
They're not a ridiculous size.
They're not not over complicated
because obviously there's servicing things, whatever,
but it's just that is what Ferrari should be.
Good, great engine, great looks.
Not two are sort of like over designed.
It's just perfect.
Well, down to the last detail.
Now, unfortunately, you've, you've, you've,
you've bided your time.
Yeah, no, I've been thinking while speaking.
What is it?
Now, you said 35, and I would actually,
I would say that's one of them.
Can't copy me.
I can.
Ben making up rules again.
I can.
Okay.
And I thought it's just one of those things.
I looked at the other day actually
because I wanted to see if they'd come down in price.
I haven't, I just haven't.
I think it's been two or so years since I had mine.
So I know I lost money on that car,
but they're still the same price for the same thing.
You can get some real rough ones at mid 30s or whatever,
but I thought it was in there.
The one that is probably stayed all throughout the year
is possibly another in 92m3.
Hmm.
Just one of the great cars.
It's one of those cars that it's, it's,
it's the comfort food car.
Oh, yeah.
It's the one I go, you know what, when,
when all else fails, I'm eating, he's the chocolate cake.
He is.
I mean, he's the chocolate digestive biscuit.
That's what he is.
It's, I would like to try another one, that's chocolate.
And a folks are estimating chocolate digestive
or hopnop chocolate.
That's correct.
Plain hopnop or chocolate hopnop.
Chocolate hopnop, chocolate hopnop.
It's a difficult one, but it would be a digest.
Yeah, it would be.
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I think he's more versatile digestive.
I heard it.
I think we're all agreed on that.
Hopnop can be a very special occasion with greed.
But digestive, he's always there.
He's always there.
He's the biscuit you grow up with.
You have like one hopnop in every 10 digestives.
That's exactly, and that's, and you know what?
Some people right now, they're, they're talking into one,
they go, I hear what the boy is saying.
You've got your after rates out.
No, I have got a digestive, but I will eat it.
That reminds me.
Oh, it's Christmas after all.
Now it gets a packet of digestive.
I hope it's that meme, when you skip, I only skip,
I only skip 10 seconds.
I think the, you know, certain through markets
can be good this year.
10 seconds later.
It's a digestive every day.
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Ford.
Some Ford.
I'd have a Ford.
I'm sorry.
I'm a little bit like.
Will actually said that the other thing
when we were going around, he just kept going.
Ford, man.
And I was like, what do you mean?
He was like, just need a Ford.
I would, I would really like an RS Mark II again.
But they are, it's just a lot of money for a focus.
I know that.
But it's one of those things where you're never going to lose
that money, so it's fine.
But green, ultimate green, focus RS Mark II.
Mark 1 RS.
Eat.
Yeah, that.
Want that?
If it was a one-to-of-the-week, I would be saying
Escort Cosworth.
You can't go with it.
I can.
It's like, hey, do whatever I like.
You know what it is, Christmas.
Next week, it's going to be one of the week.
One of the, the beginning of the year.
One of this year.
Exactly.
We'll do, we'll do.
We can set, we can set goals.
Oh, they'll, they'll be called New Year's Reserves.
Oh, okay, we should, we should all adopt that.
Yeah, that's a good goal.
I've got one.
No, no, no.
I'm saying I've got one.
No, we're on podcast.
I'm not going to say that.
I'm not going to say that.
Well, it is, but I have one already.
Is it resolution or like a car goal?
I have both.
It bends by daily.
This year.
Probably the end of December.
Great one.
That's ruined.
Is it when someone guesses your wish that it won't come true?
Yeah, exactly.
Now, yeah.
Great.
Thanks.
What have we got?
We've got a forum.
We do have a forum.
It's still a Christmas forum.
And Christmas forum, Ben, it's in there for you.
Oh, I have to ask it.
What are these things?
Hold on.
I don't know who this is from.
But I can tell you.
Edwin, I'll be honest with you.
Edwin found this one.
Is he putting it in our chat?
Is it a secret?
It's a secret forum.
It's a secret forum.
It's sent to this one.
We probably would choose similar cars for ourselves.
But what are people choosing for their significant others as the person who's going to have to fix
it and knowing they only care about Apple CarPlay?
What do you choose?
It's such a recommend for them.
Now, I put this in there because it's Christmas.
The holidays are a time of family and friends.
So we're going to open that up.
That's more broad.
People buy cars on behalf of their family all the time.
So it is for your significant other and family.
What are you going for?
Well, like each individual family member.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do for Christmas?
Well, my aunt, I guess it is.
Every year, I always get her a brand new toast out of her.
She loves it.
The things that rich people probably do for me.
Yeah, they do for me.
We never know what we're going to do.
The voice that comes in.
We never knew what we're going to find.
I'm going to say I'm confused at the question.
No, so you as a car man, are usually given a...
Someone will come to you and go...
I need a car.
I get a car, do I get a car?
I thought he was saying like, what would I get them?
I mean, there'd be a lamb in the restaurant.
No, no, no.
It is what do you actually...
You would give them a restaurant.
Yeah, no, I would.
Dependent.
Other than I just give them one of my cars.
But in reality, what do you do?
Because your girlfriend, you essentially will choose her car.
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, yeah, the fiesta that she has now.
She's got one of the three co-boosts.
And I kind of chose that.
You specifically said five door.
And I talked to her.
I said, you don't need that.
Get three door.
It's easier.
It looks better.
And here we are.
Like 60,000 miles later.
Still with that.
And I tell her every time it's got a sunroof.
That was a thousand pounds option.
And it was thousand pounds.
But that's the thing.
You put the time into find.
You didn't just go get fiesta.
You bought it.
You were like, no, I will find the fiesta.
She found one.
I mean, it had small wheels.
It had base audio.
It was a five door.
I said, let's, let's, let's not do this.
Let's, and I found for less money, a titanium.
Oh, with the 17s and a panoramic roof.
And all the radar crews and everything you would need
from a car you need every day.
And it's funny enough actually because she just started to think
I might need that.
So I'm starting to think.
What about this?
What's the next thing?
I would love to give her my own driver.
But she doesn't want that to.
Because it would be ridiculous.
I like that.
That is a, I'm sure there will be lots of crew members
that will relate that when they get this question asked,
you go through your own cars and go, you, you'd like this.
You should have this.
They go track them again.
But also because they're the person they, they know you as
the car person, they go, I don't want your cars.
No, no, your car's break.
You always say that your car's break.
I don't want that.
Disappointing me.
She's, you know, and you might be out with a family member
or a girlfriend or whatever.
And they'll say, I like that car.
They see a car and go, they like that.
And often it's actually quite disappointing.
Yep.
It was a TIG one that's come up quite often.
But I did find out there is a TIG one.
Oh, there is.
They're quite cool.
You know what?
Stupid.
But I would, I would be happy with that.
TIG one are.
I would know what?
A Range Rover evoke.
Oh, fair.
Actually, because I know it's not a full, full on Range Rover.
And I, I hate them.
But it's better than a TIG one.
But don't they have, aren't they, don't they have
chocolatey engines?
I think that you can get a later one within Ingenium,
but you get early one.
I have a don't, but don't have it.
Okay.
I think I think I think I can.
And a Vogue Benz and a Vogue convertible kind of go.
Right.
Nice little straight to catch.
He's not driving it.
He's not driving it.
He's not driving it.
He's sat in the back seat.
Oh.
Really tough.
That's me.
And then why the family?
Why the family?
Mainly a thought.
You will, you will steer them down the path of thought.
Of thought.
Yeah.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
I do try to tell them that.
We're not.
Don't buy them.
We're not forward.
Yeah.
If they want a super car.
If they want a new one.
Yeah.
I get full GT.
Why not?
My dad would be different.
I can't choose my dad.
It's impossible.
He's fellow car.
He's car man.
So non-car people.
Yeah.
My mom.
Oh, God.
I actually suggested electric cars.
My mom.
I feel awful for saying that.
But she has a very short commute.
She has an extremely short commute.
Yeah.
But the problem is, it's flat.
So you can't charge it.
Yeah, true.
So I think she's a four focus.
I think it's actually a pretty good choice.
Fair.
But that's the thing.
You go.
I think that's a general thing with those cars.
You tend to go with what you know.
Yeah.
You have a good experience with a car.
You then take that with you to someone that needs help with the car.
You're not gonna go.
You need a Sang-Yong Kharamdo.
Yeah, no.
If a family member, they need,
I feel like it feels like being a priest called
to an exorcism.
And you have to go,
I have to summon the Sang-Yong stop out of the brain and go,
and they're like,
you don't have to go extreme with it,
but we can do something better in that.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
No, no, no, no, no,
it doesn't have to be the dature, if we're honest.
Ben?
I don't know if I'm qualified to say this.
I can't even buy myself a car.
No, but it's not happening.
It was actually depression at the most.
It's Christmas, man.
But you will still,
people will come to you
as the person that likes cars the most.
Yeah, there it is, man.
It depends.
No one in my family is into cars.
But exactly, but you are.
So do you not get it?
Yeah, I'm saying this is...
First of all, this could make a great question.
For me, it's...
Usually they have an idea.
I'll say, either don't do that or do that.
Will you do some research for them?
Yeah.
And will you,
how much of your...
Not what you want,
but what your kind of flavor comes into that.
Will you be like, you want the green one?
I didn't feel it's like a little bit like...
Like a bit like the...
Take one.
Get an R.
You'll be like,
the red ones engines fly up all the time.
Joe, actually...
What a good spec.
You want to go for the blue one?
I would do something to spec.
If someone said to me,
I'm going to spec a brand new car.
I'm thinking of this business.
I would make it a bit more what I like.
But yeah, I don't really have...
Don't know.
People don't really listen to me.
I think I would.
Yeah, Ben.
I think I'm going to get that violent out on Christmas.
What's people to be like?
Well, that's been good.
No, that's not what I'm saying at all.
I just don't think...
I don't think...
You guys are so afflicted by it
that it would be...
It would be...
But are you not designated car man?
Yeah.
But then it's like...
But it's still like...
No, it's a stressful place to be.
A lot of...
A lot of creamers are going to be in a very similar position.
Not all creamers are as afflicted as we are.
They are generally interested in cars.
So they will have that thing where
they may not be in comparison to some of us.
But to their family, they're like,
Yo, you like top gear, you like cars?
What cars should I get?
The thing that will put me off is the fact that...
Sorry, put them off of me choosing
is that if you look at my car history,
a lot of it is not very good and a lot of it's quite old.
So they go, well, he's just going to choose an old.
But whatever.
Of course, which is why, like that point I said earlier,
they don't want your cars,
but they'll still sometimes ask you about what you think.
It would be stuff like, I would do...
I got a fair few brothers.
And I would say that...
What's happening?
I don't know.
I would say that if any of them came to me
in other than cars, I'd say, get this one.
Right.
What would it be?
Each one is different, but I'd say, I'd say,
like usually it would be,
you think I want to sport a car.
I'd be like, okay, we'll just get...
Get this, get this, not RS5.
Get an Audi A5 with this engine.
Okay, so you're going like Vag, like reliable.
Yeah, I'm saying reliable, but also like a bit fun.
But I'm also not going to be like,
no, you've got to get the RS5, mate.
Yeah, because they're not going to...
I don't think they're going to appreciate that.
I think what is the...
No, yes, I agree.
I think words are not coming out of my head.
It's sometimes, if they've chosen the car, that's fine.
Because actually, for a lot of non-car people,
there isn't that much choice.
No, yeah.
So, actually, there normally isn't a bad sort of...
To see, unless they're going to go,
I think it's my Q&A row.
I'm going to go, it's not having this conversation really.
But if we're talking like...
Normal stuff, a Ford Fiesta, a Volkswagen Polo, a Focus.
That in that is either Vag, or it's Ford,
or it's BMW, or it's Mercedes, it's in that,
or it's maybe like a Honda or a Toyota.
It's talking about that.
And then you have to steer them down there.
You don't have to pay that money.
Yeah, or really basic one.
You can get a better...
Don't go with that engine.
Yeah.
Because you're doing X amount of miles,
you could do this instead.
Because that's what people get wrong all the time.
They'll go, I just thought that was the one available.
It's the 1.6 non-turbo diesel.
I'm like, well, you could have got the...
My mom did it while she had a Fiesta, one liter, many years ago.
It turned out to be the non-turbo one.
And she didn't consult me.
And she claimed it was fine.
It wasn't fine.
It was exceptional.
We've been in that car.
That was rough.
That was exceptional.
That really was rough.
But now she has an eco boost, which needed a belt belt belt belt belt belt in a little
right now.
That's two...
My girlfriend's also needed belt belt.
But the...
The thing I was going to say is that I think it comes from way maybe potentially first car
is...
But I'm golf.
I will just say to anyone.
Go.
Go get a golf.
Yeah.
Because golf will be...
You need to put something in the back of it.
Get a golf wagon.
You need it.
Whatever you need, that'll be a golf that can do it.
What would you never suggest?
I don't think I'd ever suggest a voxel to anyone.
Do you know what?
I quite commonly steer people away from testlers when I talk about it.
Because I say to them, it's fine when they're new, if you can, if you get them new.
But...
And I know that their build quality has improved, but all of my experiences have always
just been...
They get really rattly.
And they get really...
Well, they actually...
They rank...
They've got a list of all manufacturers.
They rank lowest on reliability long-term.
It is just...
All manufacturers.
I think...
I have like...
I have segments in my head.
Do you want a cheaper car?
Go with something vague.
If you...
Within that, you can go...
You want it to be the cheapest one possible, say out of a scoda.
If you don't care.
You just want a good car that is a little bit cheaper than the rest, without a scoda.
You want middle of the road, go get golf.
You want it to be a bit nicer, but...
You want to look like you've spent some more money.
Get an Audi.
Now, if you want to move up, it's a Volvo's.
You want anything more than that, go get some form of Volvo.
Yeah.
A wagon, if you need a big car, get a...
What is it called?
The X-Z9 420.
40.
40 small costs over...
That's the one.
That's...
There you go.
The educational piece I always struggled to get across, that people never understand,
is...
I've put gloves on for this one.
Okay.
Is...
You must equate.
They'll say I want an Audi or a BMW.
Let's say they have 15,000 pounds.
Yes.
This is a purely theoretical amount of money and power.
Perhaps the leaf-scrong U3, they could get...
They could...
16 grams.
16 grams.
But they want...
They have 15,000 pounds and they go...
There's a one series, or two series, whatever.
A BMW and a budget, but you are at the absolute bottom end.
Yeah.
The...
The bro's got a four-speed manual four series with a wind-up clock on the dash and a
sewing machine.
That's a sewing machine.
You know, all I want is the badge.
Is the badge.
Is it...
Then you have to go...
It's...
It's easier with bag stuff because they might say I want an Audi and you go, ah, but
there's Sia and the Skoda, which...
Yeah, which looks the same car.
But it's...
They still have that badge, like...
I don't really want that.
Yeah.
But you will get them off your money in something else.
I did similar with my girlfriend's car.
She wanted a Volkswagen something or an Audi something and I go, hang on a sec, but a
Fiesta Ford.
We're Ford now.
Yeah.
You've chosen me.
Unfortunately.
You get the choice of this.
And a Fiesta that's got way more stuff for the money.
Yeah.
Way more.
A Volkswagen of some sort might have more stuff, but you're going to pay more money for
the same amount of things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Car people be...
Be considerate this Christmas.
Don't go selling decat cars to your man.
Yeah.
Wicked pop some bags up here.
Yeah.
Thanks, grandson.
The remat is an eco remat, honestly.
It really is.
I struggle it with it quite a lot because my thankfully for me, thankfully and not thankfully,
my girlfriend is...
Is suggestible with cars.
We'll drive past the car that is old and weird and cool and shit.
And she'll go, I really like that.
So of course, I'm like, we could get you a Mark II Golf.
Yeah.
You'd love that.
And then I have to do the thing where I check myself and go, no.
It's going to break down.
Yeah.
She's going to hate it.
Yeah.
And it's not going to be good.
The idea of the Golf, or the classic thing, sounds great.
Yeah.
But when you start to go, my girlfriend was the same.
I think...
It's it.
Twenty five.
Twenty five.
Both of them.
Like an 80s or 90s hatch.
You go, oh, I'm really boxy.
Really funky inside.
You go, you can't just get in it every day.
Yeah.
Banked 20, 30,000 miles on it in a year.
And...
And expected it to always work.
Yeah.
There is going to be stuff you need to do.
I don't know if it was at...
That was at Shed Fest.
But both...
Both...
Both Will's girlfriend and my girlfriend went off for walk.
And when they came back, they both went, what's that car?
We went...
There's a two or five.
And they both went, I want one of those.
And we had to...
We...
It was like, counselling.
It was like, okay.
I can see how you'd like this.
But unfortunately, this isn't going to happen.
It's a good idea.
Yeah.
But when you get in it and the speedo stops working, or you can't get into it, or your lights
go off randomly.
Yeah.
It will become tough.
But it's a...
It's a point that all...
All creamers.
Yeah.
But more importantly, all car people will come up with at some point, someone will go,
what car this?
And you...
You know what?
It's the biggest...
It's the biggest responsibility to bestow.
Because also, you suggest something.
They buy it.
It's bad.
And then you're the person.
You're the dick.
That's what I feel bad about.
It's the...
It might...
You should get this.
But there are other things out there.
Yeah.
But perhaps some of you have made some car suggestions.
Perhaps you have some W's.
Perhaps you have some L's.
There will be some where you've suggested a car.
They've bought it.
It's blown up.
Or they've had a horror of a time with it.
No, no.
It seems like...
They don't do this now.
It's just the only one that's done that.
I've never heard of that.
I see.
Exophiles never...
They never have timing changes.
Man, mate, you'll love the five litre soup challenge.
It's going to be great for you.
Shall we wrap it up there?
Wrap it up there.
Well...
Am I right?
Or unwrap it up there.
That's...
No, say wrap it up.
What a way to end.
Right.
Merry Chrysler.
Yeah.
Happy Holidays.
I thanks to the creamers this year.
Yeah.
Genuinely massive thank you for listening.
Next year is going to be even bigger and better.
The podcast is...
Well, we love doing TDC.
But the podcast is the thing we love doing even more than that.
So thank you guys for listening this last year.
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About this episode
The C.R.E.A.M. Christmas Special features lively banter among hosts as they discuss their favorite cars of 2025, share humorous anecdotes, and engage in a Secret Santa gift exchange. Highlights include discussions on car reliability, personal experiences with various vehicles, and the challenges of choosing the right car for loved ones. The episode is filled with laughter, nostalgia, and insights into the automotive world, making it a festive and entertaining listen for car enthusiasts.