C.R.E.A.M. #64 - Automotive King's Speech, Ben's Daily Update And The Word 'Shod'

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And 10.

I would like to talk about the word shod.

Now...

I asked a previous owner up there.

Oh, anyway.

What?

And I am the king, after all.

No, am I the king?

Yeah, I am the king.

And you've said that on camera.

I have said that.

And if I see one more, I'm going to machine gun you with an MG42.

Cool.

Merry Christmas.

Hello, and welcome back to the Cars Rule Everything Right podcast,

the cream podcast, number 64.

Actually, our first one we're recording in the new year.

You have seen one in the new year.

Yeah, this is our first one actually in the new year.

We're so back.

We are so, so back.

The coldest unit of all time.

You, this is, this is essentially J.M. on Cars' garage.

A bit of an intro.

You know that.

J.M. I hope you listen to the podcast

or have someone that does.

He probably doesn't.

Now, at the beginning of every one of these podcasts,

we ask each other,

do cars rule or ruin everything around us?

And now we've had time.

This is one of the first times in a long time.

We had two weeks or so to fester, to see what happens.

And, and the, you know, in the last podcast,

Ben, you made a statement saying that you, you, you, you must,

you will have a daily by this time.

I have one.

And you have one.

I bought one.

And it's a.

It's a Hongrath 2000.

Great.

You bought that car.

I thought you already had that car.

Yeah, tough one.

Now, we went to TRS yesterday

because we got the mini behind us tuned,

which may or may won't be out yet.

Might be out yet.

Who knows?

Someone will know.

Ben should know, I think.

But we went to TRS.

So it's a nice day to go and see Peter at TRS.

So yeah.

And it was our first video,

first shoot back since, since Cremus.

He's doing well by the way.

And I thought still the owner in the library.

Yep.

Still doing well and he's got Rolex.

But I was praying.

I thought I'm going to rock up at TRS

and Ben will be there in his daily.

We both said when we got there, we both said,

I was looking at cars on the way in.

I was like, because Ben would have been roughly on the same,

like I was same plan.

I was like, I'm looking at golfs.

Every scotter I went past, I was going, is he in there?

No, that's just an old man.

Every scotter doing 60 in the slow lane.

I thought that has to be Ben.

There he is.

Surely that's Ben.

We hadn't communicated that much over Christmas.

So for all you, as far as you guys were aware,

I may have bought one.

I didn't.

Yep.

I arrived at the, the location.

I looked around and I heard,

whoa, that's an S2000.

There were, there were three or four messages sent.

Ben, Ben, Ben ghosted us over Christmas.

He said nothing.

He signed off for Christmas and then said,

No more than I did do that.

And then every now and then he'd go,

come back to this car.

He'd go, can I get a carvert?

I'll check on this please.

Well, that links quite nicely actually

because Carvert Club is actually the sponsor

of this podcast, first podcast sponsor of the year.

Shout out Carvert Club.

You have a story, don't you, Ben?

Yeah. Carvert came genuinely very in handy looking at cars.

So I'll, but before that I will,

I will backtrack to why I haven't got one.

Why is that funny?

Don't worry, carry on, mate.

I just haven't got a car.

And I said I'd buy one and I believed it.

I believed it's so strong.

And we had, how long did we have off?

Two and a bit weeks?

Two and a bit weeks, you know, the most we've ever had at,

you know, TBC, plenty of time.

And then I realized that Christmas was less than a week away.

So I had to do Christmas things.

I had to do things.

I had to drive to Sheffield.

North Pole, let's go.

Yeah, work there.

Yeah, I drove Sheffield.

I had to do various family things.

So I didn't actually get much time in the first sort of,

call it actually week to actually look at cars.

And then I thought, I've got a week

until I'm back at work.

I've got time to buy a car.

And then everything just went wrong all the time.

And partly it's my fault.

I probably didn't.

So how many cars did you find?

Shortlist?

I don't know many.

I've sent possibly 30 messages to people.

I started up best, but I didn't even want to.

Ben's ultimate tire, not even a tire kicker.

No.

Time wasted.

It's like, mate, honestly, I've sent so many messages.

Just saying.

Just sending messages.

Is this available?

They reply, yes.

Any phone calls?

Not one.

No, there was, there was, I wasn't being difficult.

But like I was like, I was looking for something

very specific and then I got to the point

where I was panicking.

So I was just messaging people about availability on cars.

I didn't even want that bad.

But that's the thing, you can be picky

because you have a daily to drive in.

In the meantime, right?

Yeah, exactly.

The S2000 was great and it's rusting away beneath me.

So that's nice.

So you found a passat?

So I would basically, so I went to Sheffield

to collect my grandparents.

And I did a big seven hour round trip.

And I thought, and I took, I haven't got a daily

and I can't bring my elderly grandparents in the S2000.

Mate, you said you could.

So I borrowed my mum's partner's Tuareg.

And do you know what?

We win bless.

I'm so good.

I flew up there, cruise control, heated seat.

And then you're driving home for Christmas on the way back.

I was genuine rest in peace.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I thought, you know what?

VW kind of is just nice.

OK. VW is car.

So I thought, I'm about to passat.

I started shortlisted passats and there ended up being two.

One of which was a passat estate

and the other one was a passat CC, the coupé looking one.

Yeah, what does CC stand for?

Cool coupé.

That's it. That's it.

That's exactly it.

That's not what it called, is it?

It's not.

They've been away, yeah.

OK, right.

Yeah, I could have been fooled there.

Out of two cars, the one I wanted was the passat CC.

Right.

Because that's pretty cool.

And I did all my research on it.

It had, it looked like a good car.

And then I just, I messaged, sorry, I messaged you guys.

And I said, I said, can I have a car vertical?

And at that point, I'd already agreed to go to see the car that day.

But I was like, I'll get a quick car vertical, be fine.

And it wasn't fine.

Was it, was it cat-S?

It wasn't cat-grized.

It had a load of...

But, you know, they are a sponsor.

But genuinely, the benefit of car vertical in that situation

was that it told me, I don't know if it was an assessment

or it was, it had some sort of damage in 2015.

And that no one else knew about.

I messaged the person and I said, listen, I'm not gonna come now

because the car, you know, I wasn't, excuse me for being dishonest.

But I said, here's a car vertical check.

And it was, and it had a, you know, yellow tick for damage.

The thing is with that is obviously it wasn't actually written off.

But car vertical has access to databases, insurance databases

that will tell you if a car has been assessed for damage.

Then you're not really going to get that anywhere else.

Every other report will tell you that car's been written off.

But how many cars out there have been crashed

and then repaired for a certain amount?

They've still been crashed.

They just haven't been crashed when they were either at a point

where they were cheap enough or the crush was bad enough

for it to be written off.

Exactly.

So in the UK, we have, if a car gets written off,

that means the insurance has deemed it not worth repairing.

And it will then go up onto a co-part side,

like what we get them off.

Someone repairs it, carries on living with the car,

but it now has that marker that it was written off.

If a car is new enough or worth enough, they'll crash it.

Insurance goes, all right, yeah, we'll fix it.

We'll put a new door, a bumper or a scraper,

you know, fix a scraper, whatever.

No, then that disappears.

Now, information is gone.

But yeah, car vertical in the last few months

we've just started introducing assessment data,

which is very cool.

We haven't actually seen that on anyone else before.

And that put you off.

But you might be able to go and look at that car

and take that into account.

And also if you've seen this car was assessed for damage

and the front end 10 years ago or whatever it was,

you can then see, oh, that's why the bumper

has slightly a different color or it's had paintwork

or that's why the wheels are different

or something like that.

So it gives you more data

so you can then make a proper offer on the car

because you know the car's history.

And they came back to me with the checks

they'd done using other sites similar to car vertical

and none of them had any record of anything.

So even they were unaware, but I didn't buy it

because I didn't want to deal with a crashed car,

personally, so.

Well, shout out CarVertical.

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And obviously, like Ben has just seen,

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Shout out CarVertical.

More importantly, Ben, why didn't you buy the other Passat?

That, do you know what?

That wasn't L. That was annoying.

That actually kind of annoyed me.

Hold, because there is a new feature

for CREAM and TDC this year.

Ben, we have devised an L list.

Okay, yeah.

And Ben, you already had one on the list,

which was for not having a daily.

You have just stated another L.

So you're now up to two.

But was it this year?

Oh, that's true.

Was it this calendar year?

No, it was technically New Year's Eve.

So I rescind your L, you're still on one.

Will and I, both on zero.

So after that whole saga with the Passat,

I was like, I'm not giving up.

I'm having a Passat.

So I found another one, which looked pretty much as clean.

Local?

And Sheffield?

It wasn't Sheffield, it wasn't local.

It was somewhere.

Somewhere in between.

Yeah, somewhere.

And I was like, cool, sounds good.

Messaged the guy.

It had one of those MOT histories that was colorful,

but didn't have anything major.

It was always like, had lots of visors,

tires and brakes quite regularly.

But there was, this time it...

Track car Passat.

No, no, but what I mean is it had quite a long list each time,

but it didn't have mad stuff on there.

Anyway, so it needed all four tires and brakes all around.

And also the lights weren't working properly.

So I said to the guy, I was like, listen,

what's going on with this?

And he said, I fixed it all.

I've got all new tires and I've got all new brakes.

Now, was he lying or was he truthful?

I don't want to accuse him of lying.

He was stretching the truth.

So I got that and he had said to me,

the rear two tires are brand new.

I'd look at them and they were brand new.

They were one of the worst brands I've ever heard of.

And the fronts, one of them was, he said,

I put a part one on and it was through the wear marker.

So that was not a brand new tire at all.

No.

But he put on was a one.

Here is an excessively worn tire for yourself.

It's G.

And then the other front tire was brand new.

It had no, like have full tread.

2015, what's the date on it?

Oh, lovely.

You know, new to him.

Hey, back of the warehouse special.

He went, oh, this one will be nice.

Get this one to smell it.

This is a 2015 vintage.

This should really balance out the bold tire on the other side.

Chinese.

Okay.

Plastic.

Lovely.

Put it on the car.

Notes of 10 years old.

And the brakes had been done,

but it was just, he only did the pads

and the discs had big lips on them.

So I was like, that's a bit annoying.

Just like you.

The thing that really annoyed me

was the, I said to him specifically,

I want the car cold when I sit, like cold start.

He messaged me eight minutes before I got there

and said, sorry, mate, I've just popped the shops in it.

And I said to him, I said, okay, is it like, you know,

is it, is it up to temperature?

Is it just getting there?

And he said, no, I should get in there.

I got there.

It was ticking from how, like from the heat for it.

And I was like, so that's just fully warm.

Great.

He'd just given that one of those pre-MOT emissions blasts.

An Italian tune up.

He's like, I can't let him sit on a cold start.

He started out from cold and went, I can't let him sit.

So that was fun.

And to be fair, like the history was okay.

The car itself, like it didn't need brakes,

didn't need tyres.

It would have been probably okay, but it was,

the vibe was weird.

I was like, no, I'm not done this.

So you're still daily-less?

Yep.

And now we've decided to take over.

Yeah.

We're taking Ben's money

and we're buying him a daily for a video.

So don't worry.

You can all stop commenting now and going,

I always think you should get this.

Not that you're in the wrong, Ben is.

But we're now doing it.

Ben can lay comfortable at night

knowing we will not be buying him a percent.

No.

Really?

If it has anything to do with us,

we'll want to buy you a watch

and it's not buy you a car.

I would like that.

Yeah.

I would really like that.

But I don't think you would though.

You would like it and then you'd realise

what's happened and you'd go,

actually, this isn't useful for me.

Also, I guess technically it's not,

it's just spending my money on something that-

Exactly.

But it's a surprise from us

and then we look good on the internet.

Exactly.

Plus we can steal some of the money for ourselves.

So overall, Ben, is it a ruin?

Sorry, it's a ruin.

Long one, but it's a ruin.

Okay.

As per.

As per, you just knew it was going to happen.

All the listeners went,

that's fair.

You know what?

New Year's, same Ben.

Yeah, I don't change.

Look, there'll be some people out there that are going,

you know what, Ben might,

he might have done it.

He's going to do it.

And then they'll hear it and go,

yeah, I know.

Yeah, I don't know why.

Why should I change?

Absolutely predictable.

Why should I change?

Okay, here's one.

You sit down and listen to a podcast

and then I'm on the podcast

and I'm just like,

yeah, I bought Delhi.

Yeah.

Done.

And then everyone goes,

boring, boring, bullying.

Turns out Ben is here.

Ben is the entertainer.

He's doing it for the podcast.

He's not buying the daily.

That'd be funny.

Hold.

I'm just writing the script each night.

I actually had one daily for months.

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Oh, lovely noise.

Lovely noise for the listeners.

I would say rule.

Yeah, I'm going to say rule.

I have made a decision.

Yes.

Sorry.

I've reversed the decision.

Because I did mention before,

in a 2DC video,

and also I think on here,

that I decided to sell the Range Rover.

I've had many messages about that car.

And I've ignored every single one.

Because I don't want to sell it.

I realized that I have to...

When I want to sell a car,

I get into a mindset.

And that car is done.

Emotionally, I've detached from it.

That never happened with the Range Rover.

Part of me was thinking,

because they're worth a decent amount of money.

I was thinking, right,

the cheapest Westminster for sale is £7,000.

£7,000 is the cheapest one.

I paid four for that car.

And it's been flawless for me.

And it's just...

I don't think I can ever sell it.

I've come to the conclusion,

which I think I've thought of before anyway,

but are now confirmed that the only thing I'll sell it for

is another Range Rover.

What does that mean?

I'm going to ask you this.

Like a nice and newer one.

Like an L-405?

Like a L-405.

Yeah, I don't think...

I would never sell that for an L-322,

because that's my L-322.

I like that one.

You can get better specs and whatever else,

but that engine, that gearbox...

Yes.

I would struggle to find one better than that, I think.

It's 160,000 miles now.

It's not...

I would rather keep it.

I've bought a fixed load of stuff.

It had the heating was broken,

so I fixed that over Christmas.

I've bought a load of bits to fix the heat seats.

A couple of other bits.

I had a coolant leak.

That's all now fixed.

I have bought some 22-inch Project Carnwalls.

Now, I really don't know how to feel about this,

because that car is so...

It's not Queen's back.

It's not...

It still has tints and it's not green,

but it's still so nice and clean.

Yeah, but I...

Yeah, that's what I thought,

but I thought if I'm keeping it,

I want to freshen up and make it yours.

I want to switch up the vibe a little bit.

Yeah, okay.

If it's going to be my car for a while now,

let's have a scumbag era.

Yeah, fair.

Let's have...

I want to go with the tints.

It's black anyway.

I want to match some 22s on it.

I want pimp era,

but now I'm looking at the wheels in the garage.

Like, I don't think I should do that.

That's rough.

Roughly.

No, well, they need a refurb,

and they're cracked.

Oh, they're also reps.

Um, just how I like it.

But they are 22s.

I just want to live in a...

I want to live in a world, as me,

where I have 22s on my car.

It's worth trying.

And this should be way fresh.

But are you going black to out Range Rover?

No, it'd be silver wheels.

Okay, so that's not too bad.

But I'll have to have it in access mode all the time,

because they're a slightly bigger offset,

so they will look nicer when it's sat low.

But I don't want to lower it,

because I think that's silly on a Range Rover.

Yeah.

But that's good.

CL, I haven't actually been

sat outside since Christmas.

And his fate is decided.

His fate is decided,

well, I'm going to modify him.

But I may, there may be a giveaway

of some sort in the next couple of months on that car.

Because you also had loads of people

trying to buy that a few, right?

I have had a few people trying to buy that.

But there's a few,

there's some wheels I've bought for that.

There's a few other really...

I've now, it's now got carplay as well,

which is really, really cool.

So that's got actual nice audio in it.

Modern stuff now.

It's really good.

What about the car?

Oh my God.

We don't talk about that.

Don't, don't remember that.

Do you have one?

No.

There hasn't.

He might buy one this year.

Are you going to buy a game on this year?

Yeah, I might do.

Do you know, I might go white one, white wheels.

Yeah, I like that.

Bricks or like OMP seats.

Working bricks, working bricks.

Fully working bricks.

I'm going to say you need to check the brakes on those.

I've heard a lot of bad stories about those.

It's rare.

Rare.

Rare they work or have them.

No, no, it's rare.

Just in general.

Rare to see it.

Yeah, yeah.

To see it.

Hopefully, I'm hoping this month.

If not this month,

I think I'm going to write the car off.

Like, that's it.

In both ways.

No, I just never owned it.

Okay, yeah.

It's gone.

And then it'll turn up one day and you go,

wow, wow, I've got three Macan for free.

And Glado needs, it's her heating fixed.

And the Ranger.

Now, the Ranger, I was going to say,

there is a predicament actually.

Well, it's just now related to a Range Rover.

I've decided to keep the Range Rover,

which to actually my girlfriend is over the moon with that,

because you have that car and my family as well, for some reason.

But we've had this Ranger Raptor,

which I swapped with you a week, 10 days ago or so.

I just really like it.

It's good.

I feel at home in it.

Yeah.

But I drove the Range Rover once,

one day and I thought,

am I going to get in the Range Rover

and hate it after being in the Raptor?

And I didn't.

Ah, so yeah, it still does.

It still does it.

So, yeah, we'll see.

So overall, you're a real ruin.

No, it's your rule.

Sorry, I can't speak.

I would say rule.

Okay.

I am also a rule.

Despite the fact that I still do not own a Range Rover classic,

I spent the entire of the Christmas break

researching them,

setting reminders,

setting alerts on sites you've never heard of

that don't really necessarily sell cars.

But maybe they will,

just hoping that one comes up.

So, I don't have that.

But I did have the Ranger before Christmas,

which was very good and very slidey.

And then just after Christmas,

we swapped to the Mustang.

I've been having a lot of fun.

It's quite weird.

There's mysterious black marks

keep appearing all over the roads around here.

Like crop circles.

It must be American Area 51 or something.

Yeah.

It must be a Venezuelan president nearby or something.

And then at the same time,

there's no...

I'm on the wear marker.

So, I don't know how it's happened.

But that car is fantastic.

And it made me do something.

It made me go and get my MX-5 out of storage.

It was like, is that what forced the issue?

It was sustained traction loss that made me go,

I should call her.

Maybe go, I need to go and get the MX-5 out.

Because I love that car.

And that's what it spends,

that's what it spent all of its life with me doing.

Does it?

Yeah.

Because you don't know that.

No, we've had this thing,

I've known it for five years now

and every time I get told,

MX-5 is amazing, you've got to experience it.

And every time it almost happens, it doesn't.

So...

Well, just today, you were standing outside.

And you did a slide.

And I did a small little slide just going into pit

and I just built a dose pipe for it, small one.

And the noise, did you feel it?

There was a little bit of subtle.

You've...

I've known many people,

I've been out on it, obviously, many times.

Now you said five years.

That's crazy to me.

It is five years.

It's six years.

I think it hasn't driven.

It's five or six years.

I said to Ben, we were behind the Rangers day,

putting cameras on.

I said, have you been out in the MX-5?

Surely in that timeframe, you've been out once.

He said, no, I've never been.

Never been.

It is right of passage.

Yeah.

If you're working in and around these parts,

someone...

You need to have shit your pants in that MX-5 at some point.

Yeah.

Scared a lot of FIFA in that car.

Literally from the first day I met Edwin,

because I came to your house

and you showed...

And you told my other car,

you've been saying how good it is doing a skid.

And Rory came in, I put it off on the left to do

because I swapped some tires on it the other day.

And Rory came in and he went, is it coming back?

It was like a weird myth.

He was like, it's back.

Mr. Pikmin.

I thought you was dead.

I thought you stood.

Someone said you was dead.

So coming weeks, that should be up.

There'll be a video on the second channel,

getting that car up and going.

And then what else has happened?

My camshafts shout out to Peter.

Peter is the man who let us drive his E60M-5

when we were in Monterey,

with a place we've never been.

Never been.

And he very kindly found, for me,

a set of M3 cams for an American E36,

and sent them out to me.

I paid for them, obviously.

Cheers, Peter.

No, I'm afraid Peter will be going to pay me right.

And so they have arrived.

They're over there and I'm very excited

because it now means I can start building

the White E36 engine.

I am a little bit worried

because the Mustang and the Raptor

are going away on Friday.

Yeah.

And I will have to go back to driving the E36.

Mercedes.

What? Mercedes-Benz 55?

No, that needs to go away.

I hate, that car is probably for sale

when you hear this.

That car will probably be for sale.

I want it gone.

Something will need to,

something will need to happen.

Oh, I have found something.

I'm not going to talk about it

because I'm going to go look at it this Sunday.

What is it?

It's the little green beagle that I showed you.

Of course.

And I showed Ben as well.

It's a return to form for all three of us.

If that makes sense.

You must, yeah.

Wouldn't it be nice though

if you just joined me in No Daily Town?

No.

Just be like together in that.

No, I prefer not.

Share that.

Okay.

No.

George, great.

I have two dailies.

Yeah.

This is crazy.

He's got more dailies than we have combined.

Three currently, if we count the Ranger.

I could, we could share them.

Can we share?

No.

All right.

Ben, you take the mark home.

Oh, surely Ben can take the mark home, right?

Yeah, you could take the mark home.

Put some miles on it.

I won't take the mark home.

You knew you wouldn't.

No, I don't want to mess up your car.

A very long rule of run

because we have not seen you many weeks.

It's only been a week to you.

I mean, we've missed you actually.

Yeah.

I have actually missed the creamers.

It's supposed to be nice to build up

some bullshit.

Yeah.

Shall we get onto some Dots of Neck?

Now, we'll start off, Edwin, you've put in here.

I don't know what it means.

Gangster.

Fabulous.

We talked before early days of cream about car lyrics.

Someone came up with a name for it

and I can't remember it.

Clip lyrics.

It was something, that was something interesting.

And I was listening to Fabulous and his song Gangster,

which I think is from Midnight Club 3.

It's in one of the games.

Okay.

And in there, he says, let me just find it now.

They love me just because I'm in the Gallardo,

laughing like Ricky Ricciardo.

But he says, pronounces Gallardo as we do.

He says Gallardo.

I felt the pressure recently.

And there's just, I just wanted to take a note of one more person,

an important person, someone who knows cars.

You know, he's got a Gallardo.

Yeah, he knows.

He knows more than anyone commenting.

Balboni.

Valentino Balboni.

ACON.

ACON and Fabulous.

Fabulous.

All friends, they go out together.

So that's three, that's six people roughly now.

We've got, well, I don't know about Ben.

Ben isn't, Ben isn't convinced.

Ben, what are you?

Gallardo or Gallardo?

I was always Gallardo until I met you guys and now I Gallardo,

but also I know nothing.

Over Christmas, I thought about it a lot.

Okay.

I just, I felt pressure.

I thought I might, I might just go back.

Wow, you're going to Gallardo.

I might just go back, but I'm not yet.

I think that a big event would have to happen,

like something, someone would have to really offend me.

You know, Ed Bolian would have to be there in person

and tell you off for it.

Yeah.

To go, all right, Ed, you've made your point,

but I'd have blown you by my side.

I'm saying exactly, don't we all save that value, mate?

That's what saw him out.

In your scenario, I actually think that,

that you're better off staying as you are.

Because if, for me, if I was trying to pronounce a car

and then the owner of the car was like, no, it's this.

I'm like, I don't know.

You must know your own one.

Yeah.

But it's just a difficult scenario to be in.

You get a look down on.

Of course.

So it's difficult.

What's happening now?

When you say Gallardo, everyone goes,

and we've, we've admitted that it's not technically

correct. No, it's not.

I'm not Spanish.

But it's what we were all saying.

It's what it was.

He can't say it.

Balboni said it and he's got one named after him.

So suck yourselves.

Okay.

What have we got next?

Next, Ben, a bit of news.

First news, not the first news of the new year at all,

but first news of sort of the new year.

Gordon Wagner has stepped down.

He's gone.

What has he stepped down from?

Mercedes.

And who is he?

Gordon Wagner was.

Okay, sure.

The design chief design lead head of design

for Mercedes.

A lot of titles.

I don't know which one it is.

That sort of thing for Mercedes for the last,

I don't know, long time.

Well, that's what I would like to know.

I'm going to find out.

What sort of cars are we talking about?

I'm going to find out.

Everything up until December, is it?

I'm going to find out.

This is old news now.

Okay.

Okay, great.

I saved this on the 17th of December, but fine.

Fantastic.

Um, 28 years with the company.

28 years.

It's a long time.

He has been the brand's global designer since 2008.

That's not 28 years.

No, but he's been with the company.

Some of his early work includes the SLR McLaren, the R-Class, the ML GL,

and all of Mercedes passenger vehicles of the early 2000s.

He did the R-Class.

Also the ML.

That's R.

That's how he did the RML.

Yeah, you know what?

The SLR, which came out, was quite controversial.

And then the R-Class, which was very designing and controversial.

You know, not a great way to start.

He is controversial.

Oh, just things he said?

No, because of what came later.

He then also did some of the standout ones we've got here,

we've got the CLS, the W222 S-Class, the MVGT, SLS, and then the newer G-Wagon.

He did the SLS?

Yeah.

Nice.

Okay.

He went car, long bonnet.

Long bonnet.

You don't stretch that guy out, but he did do the R-Class.

And do you know what he did?

Which is the downfall, the EQ line.

All of that new design stuff from Mercedes up until now has been him.

Great career.

Congratulations off your pub on holiday mate.

Do you know what?

You've had your time.

Yeah.

You've done it.

Is that like, I'm assuming he's getting on a bit, maybe.

I don't think he's, he's looked that old.

Well, was he 11 when he designed the SLR McLaren?

He looks like he's in maybe his 40s or 50s.

Okay.

28 years.

How damn he's 40 when he's 12.

But okay, not that old, but you know, he's just getting a bit.

He comes out of a design and they go, okay.

All right.

Yeah.

He's like, what if we made a Werther's dish on it?

He goes, I designed the SLR.

Yeah, we know.

We know.

Granddad.

He's 57.

Okay, he's not that old.

He's all right.

You can't, you can't even retire.

He probably could.

He might be.

He's doing all right.

So, okay.

So we may see some new interesting designs from him.

I think they've just, because to be fair, in the last,

guess maybe the last seven years.

Yeah, the EQ stuff is being really not great.

Now, speaking of car design, this isn't on the list,

but I've just remembered it and I would like to speak

about it while it's in the mind.

A man has messaged me on Instagram and actually I've got

two things from him, an Instagram account called

HexGraphica.

It's messaged me a few times about stuff,

but something interesting.

This is proper nerd crap.

Here we go.

So McLaren Mercedes was a thing.

Yes.

There was a Mercedes had a stake in McLaren,

hence the SLR McLaren.

And at some point around about 05,

they were thinking about increasing that stake

because they're like, you know what?

This is actually quite nice.

It's quite nice.

Nice building as well.

Because we were talking about the MP4

and why the design is a little bit,

a little bit flat.

And then they kind of changed,

they changed it a bit like the front end

and changed it a bit and then they changed it all afterwards.

There was a concept of,

I think they said it was called either the P8 or P9,

the P10 is something that became the SLS.

And it would have been a Mercedes.

This was a Mercedes like McLaren thing.

Yeah.

And that I'll show you and we'll get it on the screen.

Is that not?

That is an MP4-12C.

That is just an MP4-12C.

Let me, like six, there we go.

Six, seven years before.

The MP4 actually came out.

So that would have been a Mercedes

because I've just got,

here's a photo of it on screen.

Now, this is from, I've got a photo on,

this is from April 2009.

More details of the McLaren F2 C-Powt.

Very few cars evoke this kind of

passionate reaction that the McLaren F1 does.

They are now working on a successor to the legendary F1.

So that is when they were still calling it McLaren.

I think it would have been a joint thing again.

Yeah.

But still, that is just an MP4 also just with SLR mirrors.

Yeah, the actual SLR mirror.

I hate that.

It looks weird.

But that was this, this, this, this,

this Hexgrass look at you.

Watched our video.

Those are just like E-Class wheels.

Yeah.

Those are just old.

Yeah.

But if anything, that's actually a slightly more

interesting design than what came out, but still.

But basically, I think that might have been why that design

is a little bit like the BMW Mini thing where they saw it.

Oh, well, we've already got it.

We've all got it.

We'll have a go.

Yeah, we'll already finish it.

But even like the back end, it's all just the same

as an MP4.

And then, yeah, they kind of changed the design up.

After that, I thought that was quite cool.

Good, nerdy stuff.

Always like that.

Any nerd stuff you find.

Send.

Yeah, we send it.

Although we will have seen it usually.

So don't be upset if we don't reply.

And that one I was impressed by because I was like,

I don't know that.

And it's actually tough to accept that I didn't know that.

But I like that I've learned it.

Had.

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Ulez Zone.

Yeah, and that's Ben.

I was a bit upset when I said that.

Okay, now what is it?

I discovered over...

Do you know what?

A very quick preamble on this.

I run...

I live somewhere near the Bristol Ulez Zone.

Not in it, or actually that close to it to be fair.

But I do occasionally go through it.

So I don't need a car that is Ulez,

but it's nice to have one if I want to go to the center of the city.

Up until now, I've had the Clio and the X5.

The Clio was always Ulez, X5, not Ulez.

Right?

So on the rare occasion I bring the X5 in,

I'll just pay the Ulez.

That's fine.

But usually I try and have that second car to be a Ulez car.

In comes the S2000, which I believed was Ulez.

And you checked that?

And this is such a Ben thing.

I swear it was.

Okay.

I swear it was.

So they changed it?

They changed it.

They re-hemologated over questions.

They went, do you hear Ben's port and S2000 off the list?

I didn't.

I sort of assumed to be fair and then I thought I checked it

and I could have sworn.

And so I've just been going in there.

Okay.

Some, not that regularly, but somewhat.

So I've had quite a few letters coming through.

You've got multiple vines.

Yeah.

No, how many?

Let's be honest, how many?

How many vines are we?

Alleged vines.

Yeah, yeah.

I've obviously contested them.

You've said that was, Michael.

You've contested them.

How have you contested them?

No, are you good?

It's an ongoing case.

Are you good?

I can't speak on an ongoing.

Are you going to say you're on or I didn't know?

No, that's not it.

You're on a, it's a petrol car.

What the hell?

Ben's going to go, you're on a, I don't have a daily.

So I have nothing else.

It's been a long year.

No, I basically found out that way.

So I have, I have, I have, they haven't all come through.

I don't think it's a taffy.

That's rough.

But yeah, there is, there is, I didn't know that.

And I was quite upset.

So you are happy with the USO?

And that's why you put that message in.

Yeah.

I mean, there's lots of other.

Yeah.

It's a great, great scheme.

Yeah.

Sense.

Yeah.

Of course.

Sort of.

Yeah.

Lovely.

So yeah, basically S2000 is not you less.

And I also believe this, right?

I don't know this.

This is completely fabrication.

Surely it would be you less if they actually retested it.

Because it's year three and it's meant to be four petrol.

If it means the standard that you can get stuff homologated to,

well, you can get, you can get stuff retested.

People do it with BMWs.

Because it's like the, the late 2.8 is you less,

but the early one isn't.

So you can basically get and say, this is the same engine.

And get them done.

Because essentially, because it's a 1990 something engine,

whoever, whether it was in it or the original 1999 or something,

they made them up until 2008.

And they're this engine.

And I don't think those ones are you less either,

but I just don't think Honda ever retested it.

You can get it changed.

Like in that sort of like 30 day period or whatever,

you're fine.

And then they say, right, you really need to pay this fine.

And you go, hold on.

You got this wrong.

You less.

So the time that the pressure is on.

So how much is a brush slowly on you less?

Do you pay in pounds?

Or is it like shillings or something like that?

In hay bales.

It's nine pounds.

Nine pounds a day.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

It's also the, I believe it's the.

It's better than London, I guess.

Well, it's the second strictest.

Yeah.

But Bristol's like a, a, a hovel.

A pea in, in size comparison.

I could talk for hours about how much I hate the Brazil

in the zone.

It's, it's, it's, it's complete scam.

But fine.

Anyway, I have fines.

So tough.

We'll see how those progress.

Yeah.

So when we get those donations in the comments,

he's like, please, I've got so many fines to pay.

I can't, I can't, I can't die daily.

It was a tough one.

Is a diesel Passat, you know?

No, surely not.

No, no, basically anything.

It doesn't matter.

We're taking care of it.

For those who don't know, in the UK, we have,

we have Euro emissions.

Don't know what it means.

Basically for petrol Euro four, which is two.

And it's basically, there are some earlier cars

that have the engine is.

M3 is.

The engine is, what is it?

Allowed.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Homologated four.

But is then anything after 2005 or four?

It has to be that.

So basically, if you buy 2004 car, you know it will be.

And then diesel, because diesel is 2016.

2016, yeah.

So it's tough.

Off my Range Rover for some reason.

For some reason.

Well, that's the most valuable Range Rover on earth.

What we got next?

Now, next one, I might have got these letters mixed up.

Well, the second ones.

E38 MLRS.

We are about to talk about the war in Ukraine.

Not about to get political on the Korean podcast,

but this caught my eye because I believe it is

Ukrainians, not Russians.

Unless the Russians are running out of money.

Quick time.

MLRS can't remember what it stands for.

I want to say that the R is rocket.

Yes.

I think it is a, hold on.

I'm going to tell you right now.

It is a multiple launch rocket system.

And what they are essentially doing,

if you can't see on the screen,

they are using an E38 7 series to fire rockets from.

Yeah.

Which might be what it's a movie car.

Oh, that's a movie car.

That's death race.

That is what that is.

That is insane.

I can't, I couldn't, I didn't actually look into what it is.

It's a short wheelbase.

It's short.

I think it is a facelift on some horrible

aftermarket wheels if we're being honest.

But I think that's the least of its problems.

Yeah.

And then I think it has some form of stand that comes out of the boot.

Yeah.

To kind of like, otherwise it would probably just do a wheelie.

Yeah.

And the rocket would go sort of the wrong way.

But I like, I like that that's probably the only rocket,

you know, propelling system that when you get in it,

it goes boom, three degrees outside.

Pele, you let's find by the way.

It goes, it just plays.

What, what music was in, you had all sorts of music in E38.

Oh, like African music, you had some sort of reggae.

Sort of like Spanish.

Like Mexican music.

That was all sorts.

It's just getting the rocket launcher and it's just playing reggae.

Yeah, a little Bluetooth module in the boot.

Do what you like.

Although the boot does look occupied.

He doesn't have much space.

Doesn't have much space at the moment.

But there's lots of stories of this, of cars being used.

Yeah.

Usually BMWs, which is amazing.

Also, can you imagine if that was,

they just sort of found that E38 and that was your old E38?

That's my old car.

Also, also going, yeah, why can't we use the rocket launch today?

PCV valve's gone.

Smoking.

Can't get it out.

Honestly, can we get a tow, please?

But I thought that was quite cool.

I got a recall on the rocket launcher, unfortunately.

Ukraine war update from Kream there.

Next up, Edwin, you've been here.

Shod.

I would like to talk about the word shod.

Now, Ben, do you know what that means?

No.

Have you ever heard it before?

I've heard it.

I don't know what it means.

When, where have you heard it?

It's coming out of someone's mouth.

Okay.

But in relation to what?

I don't know.

You don't know.

So you always see it on classic car adverts or car adverts in general,

usually ones that are trying to be up their own anus because it is used in terms of tires.

You'd say these 19-inch wheels are shod in Pirelli tires and it annoys me so much

because every single advert uses them to try and sound posh.

But it's just such an annoying word.

It is annoying, yeah.

Man, they've got Pirellis on it.

Yeah.

Just say that.

They've got Michelin's with three minutes of war in Ben's case.

Ditch finders with no trend.

But this is this is the reason.

Shod in ditch finders.

No one's saying that.

No one's saying shod in Pardons.

Shod in Capatos.

Why do I catch a stray?

Just using you as an example.

But I have good tires.

No, not you.

The passat you looked at, your doughnut.

That was tough.

I'm saying is there's no one's using these fancy words for crud.

Oh, that was basically not shod at that.

But that's the thing.

I was on a car and I should have put the list again,

but this is what made me put it in here,

is that there was a car for sale that had,

they were like 17 year old tires.

This car was a bit of a barn find.

And quite clearly you could see cracking around the whole,

you know, they have the close up photo of the wheel with the tires,

cracking the whole way around the tires.

And it said shod in period correct Pirelli tires.

What are you talking about?

That's the first thing I'm going to have to change.

I don't care.

It's such an annoying word to me.

But the reason I wanted to put it,

bring it up is to ask what other car specific words.

You don't say that for anything else.

You don't say this plate is shod in bangers and mash.

This model is shod in Gucci shoes.

Also, I just, I wanted to Google what does shod mean?

Yeah.

Like shod means now this is good.

This is the first thing on Google.

So is this AI or not AI?

Okay.

But it is Google.

They are saying it is the part,

the past tense for shoe is shod.

And it is the meaning of is to fit a horse with a shoe or shoes.

So you're going to shoe a horse, I guess.

So you shod the shoe.

You shod the horse.

I'll shod the horse.

So you could get those ones a bit wrong.

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

You said shod the shoe.

Oh.

I'll shod the horse.

You shod my horse.

Okay.

That's going to go crazy now.

Also, or to protect brackets,

the end of an object such as a pole with a metal shoe.

So when Lucriss says,

I just bought me on me and all my which,

some brand new shoes.

Yep.

He was talking in car and classic speak.

Yeah.

He was, I've shod my cars in brand new tires.

In Pirelli, in time specific,

Pirelli's 2000s in NS.

So shod, in that meaning, it doesn't, it was.

But what other words are there that only cars,

maybe we'll revisit them, we'll look through comments,

but there are so many just car specific words that mean nothing

and they're just annoying.

They're just there to spice up an ad.

Yeah.

You know, I would actually get more,

I'm going to look into it more

if you start using that language in an advert

because I'm like, what are you trying to hide?

You're hiding something.

Yeah.

If you say you shod in, shod in tires.

Okay.

Shod in tires.

Meanwhile, while Rod Bering's about to fly out the bottom of the car.

Fast 8 splash screen is your next thing.

Now, this is something I noticed.

I've been forcing my girlfriend to watch Fast & Furious

because of a recent purchase of ours.

For who knows?

One, two and three, they've been watched,

but obviously on the splash screen,

once you are of Netflix and whatever streaming services

other ones are available,

you will get served the other movie saying,

you should watch this one next.

And I've always, since the day this movie was announced,

been annoyed by something.

Fast 8, The Fate of the Furious or whatever it's called.

There is a specific movie poster,

and it's on Netflix that they use all the time.

And nobody's ever talked about this from what I can see.

I've just put it on the screen right now.

You're this.

Do you have seen this photo before?

It is a photo of a Mustang and a Challenger racing.

But the Challenger is so poorly photoshopped

or skewed or something has gone.

It is bad for AI.

But so for those of you who can't see,

it's the Challenger that has the CUDA style graphic down it

from Fast 8.

So that is a car that does exist.

We've seen it.

It's in the movie.

It looks normal and works.

But in the promotional poster,

it has like a 13-inch wheel on it

that's bending to the side.

And then me, the fender on it,

what do you call it?

The rear arch is like melting.

Yeah.

The whole rear of the car is melting.

Can you zoom on what's ahead in the horizon?

It looks like the door is open on a 55 Chevy

and then there's another one in the distance.

So the Mustang is about to go straight into that Chevy.

They're going straight into it.

And the Mustang has got this weird kit on it,

which I don't remember from the film.

That's fine because the Dodge is about to turn right anyway.

The Dodge is going right.

It's also melting, which is the biggest issue I think he has.

But I've seen this poster so many times.

If you're an audio lester,

go and search up Fast 8 poster.

You'll see it pretty quickly.

But how did that get passed?

Yeah.

How did someone allow that through?

There's a melting car that someone got paid a lot of money for that.

A load of money.

Like a professional, he just finished up the last bit and went,

yeah, that's great.

Also, like, all right, fine.

If it's a YouTube thumbnail, for example,

a couple of little bits here and there, you can leave.

It's like, don't look too far into us.

But that sort of thing is fine

because it's just meant to catch your eye.

But that is going probably on a billboard or a bus stop.

I remember seeing that up close.

Seeing that up close.

I remember seeing that at a movie theater

in a huge big poster and going, what is that?

I've seen that outline of that poster.

I've never looked deeply into it.

I've honestly been thinking about that for years.

And I thought, now I must be the whistleblower.

There must be the designer of that, if you're out there.

Step up.

He's not telling us what happened.

He's telling, no, no, no.

That's a Friday afternoon job.

That was like, movie comes out Monday.

What?

Have you got a poster?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he went on and chatted GPT before it existed.

And he said, uh, make me...

I'm melting toge charger.

I make it crash into a belay or something.

But it's the fact that it is the car from the movie.

So it must be from a screenshot that's been walked and moved

and they've tried their best.

But hey, yeah, not great.

Speaking of Fast and Furious, staying on the topic.

Cristiano Ronaldo will be in Fast and Furious.

Yeah.

Now there is an actual photo.

There is an actual photo of this.

But I thought this one was funnier because if you can't see,

it's the screenshot from the first Fast and Furious

where Dom and Paul Walker are alongside 355.

And he says, smoke them.

Yeah.

Except they're looking, they're looking at Ronaldo.

Yes.

Yeah.

They are looking at Ronaldo.

So apparently, um, I thought I heard that Ben, shut up.

I thought this was a fake, but there is a post from Vin Diesel

with Ronaldo that says he wanted to be in it.

So they've written them a role of some sort.

I saw he's gonna be Paul Walker, but with his face off.

Oh no.

He's in it.

He's back.

But you know, this is a slightly different body.

One last time for family.

But I've seen, I could swear, when I wrote this down,

I've seen a shot and it's him like standing on a car

with like all stuff attached to him doing a stunt basically.

So yeah, that's gonna be interesting that Cristiano Ronaldo is.

It's also funny because they were like,

right, this is the last Fast and Furious film.

Make it big.

We're going back to our roots.

Yeah.

We're gonna do street racing.

Man like Brian the Conner is back.

He's back.

He's so back.

We're doing street racing.

We're going back to our roots.

And Cristiano Ronaldo will be there.

He needs to be in it.

He is going to be there though.

If he's not Rose Close Pizza Boy, or he's,

was it Michelle Rodriguez?

If he can be her.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

So he can be Letty.

Then I'm fine with that.

He's the guy in the RX-7.

He's in.

I don't remember his name.

Orange Julius in Too Fast and Furious.

Yeah, that is him.

No, Orange Julius is the super, sorry.

Yeah.

And he says, who?

Yeah.

At the end.

When he jumps through the air in Too Fast and Furious

over there, what he goes, Paul Walker goes,

and then what's a renowned logo?

Too.

Yeah, this would be a ridiculous franchise.

Still really not really confused.

Does that make you want to see it more?

Nope.

No, okay.

No, not so.

Although what confused me is that I,

the only first few years I have seen is

nine, ten, the most recent one.

Oh, yeah.

And well, that's the next part.

But that ended on like a proper cliffhanger.

The story is really quite established.

To be like, we're going back to street racing

when spoiler, he ends either driving down a dam

or on the edge of a dam or something.

I like the idea that they're like,

that was hard work.

Bit of street racing.

It's like it is an actual cliffhanger.

On a cliff.

I think maybe he gets to the bottom.

I can't, I wasn't really watching.

You're going to get to the bottom of it.

You're watching a different movie.

Next up, Ben, then a bit of news from you here.

Yeah, it's about Honda and the fact

that Honda are making OEM parts again.

There's a link in our chat for that,

because I thought you'd be able to

read it and understand it.

I can give you the headline.

Now, from the headline, I would take hazard to guess

that they're already building OEM parts.

They usually build them for their cars.

Yes, but they're making them for cars

that they're long the building.

So these are heritage parts.

A little bit like some manufacturers,

BMW will stop making parts.

Some do Audi are quite bad for that.

BMW are very, very good for it.

Mercedes are relatively good for it.

Land Rover are actually incredibly good at doing.

Yo, you've got a 97-year-old car.

Cool, we've got that part on the shelf.

They know because it's broken a thousand times.

And they also go, also, we haven't updated it.

We still sell that car brand new.

So sure, you can have one.

Oh, the part that breaks.

Yeah, it's still the Brakes, but we've got 27 of them.

New and improved one, brakes more, but new parts.

So as far as I'm aware, it is new parts.

Oh, OK.

They're genuine.

Stuff like, so I think S2000 is one of them that they're doing.

That's what I was going to ask.

Does it affect you?

Does this affect the traffic?

Yeah, I think it does.

It's stuff.

I read the rumor that it could be a hard top.

They're bringing it back, which would be good.

Because for those who don't know,

S2000 hard tops are thousands of pounds.

Here's the issue.

They're going to be more still.

No, but this is the thing.

So the S2000 hard top, because not very many were made,

and they don't make many more,

and no one makes a replacement one really,

they're very expensive because of the old supply and demand.

If we're now giving option for three grand as it is to go and buy

a brand new one,

then the price of the second hand ones comes down.

It does.

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But they will still be expensive.

Of course, of course.

I think it's three grand.

Yeah.

What I'm saying is that's an example.

I think, well, from what I read,

Hondo basically like,

you know, we need to have some support for these older models,

stuff like S1000, which is still up in value and is.

Hondo, if we could get, you know,

some beat parts going, maybe.

Hondo are looking, they're looking.

Tired silk for me, thanks.

They're looking at the used parts market and going,

we can undercut them.

We need to get in on this.

You said 100 quid.

400 quid?

It's 100 quid.

I started selling them on Facebook Marketplace.

I think it's to offer support for like,

the option for people to keep them going,

because they are well regarded cars.

But it's also, the benefits like me

is that obviously those sort of bad parts anyway,

second hand parts will become cheaper.

Fair.

But there is the S2000 and something else.

I haven't read that, but I skipped on that.

Yeah.

There's lots of videos of the NSA.

I'm assuming it will be the more value.

Like everyone, like, oh, my civics going to get

and the new diesel parts probably not.

They're going to be looking at the stuff

that's going to be like,

people are going to be spending money restoring.

Yeah.

So Hondo beat, 100 quid.

You know what?

Probably.

Probably not, but the S2000 is probably not a bad show.

They announced two on there.

I went on the website, which was Japanese

and I've got Google to translate it.

The Honda Heritage Works website had launched.

The news release has also been released.

Okay.

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Okay.

It's not just about making something new.

It's about reviving the soul stirring sensation.

That's where the unique value lies.

That's why Honda will do it.

It feels a bit political.

Yeah.

It feels a little bit like a speech, which I don't know.

I'm on the same site in English.

Essentially, it's Honda Heritage Works,

which there'll be two arms of it.

That's where I am.

The English site just says,

we're making parts, mate.

Yeah.

Honda Swindon.

But this is actual English site.

SN13.

It's not translated.

Oh, is it not?

This is just English.

Well, mine's quite good.

What does yours say then, then?

Well, we sort of got the gist from Will,

but I was going to say this.

I was going to say that the...

Ben Interrupted said, I've got it here.

Does it say anything different?

Nah.

No, but the details of it is that it's Honda Heritage Works

and they'll have two arms of it.

It's Honda Heritage Parts,

Honda Heritage Restorations.

So they're doing the Mazda thing,

where you can bring them an MX-5.

Yes.

So it's first generation NSX and S2000 Star,

and then more parts.

Oh, here we go.

Right. Interesting.

More details are going to be released this month.

There's a sort of mysterious photo here of an NSX,

and then there's some Japanese writing,

and there's an arrow,

and it points to a sort of silhouette of an NSX

with a question mark on it, but like a game.

It's like YouTube done now.

So yeah.

Kind of mysterious.

Little cliffhanger from Fast and Furious.

They're talking about Ben and retention.

They're going, don't tell them yet.

Keep them there.

Don't tell them yet.

The cream podcast will get that three weeks late

in another six weeks.

Right. My hands are very cold.

So just going to back out of this.

What we got next here, we've got...

Oh, BMW Bolt.

I put this in Christmas Eve, no less.

The BMW, I wasn't sure if this was real,

and I'm still not sure if it's real.

I'm not sure if I've seen anything official,

but there is apparently a BMW patent,

but they've said we've made our own bolt,

and the intention for that bolt is that they're like,

right, none of you are going to be servicing your cars anymore.

The bosses of BMW have been on Instagram.

They've seen people opening coolant bottles

on E36 when it's got hot.

We've got to stop this.

They've seen people putting different engines in E46s.

They've seen N54 jokes and went, no more.

No, we don't like this.

No more.

We'll be us working on it

because we're going to put these bolts in it.

Yeah.

And then you told me something quite fine.

And then I saw that the next day,

a guy had released on a 3D printing site

a printable file had to have a bit

that converts to a normal socket.

They can't come out and be like,

oh, yeah, this is impossible to get yourself

when it is quite literally just two triangles.

Well, so what it is, is they have made the BMW logo,

the roundel as the bolt head,

and within the...

If you have the circle, there is four blocks.

Two of them are divots in which you'd put something in.

Also, rounding that out, it's a tough one.

You just destroy the BMW logo.

You can't have that anymore.

Yeah.

You just got one Audi rainbow.

There is no...

How do you look in that going?

Well, we can't make that.

Hold on.

Mercedes, though.

Yeah, it's sort of like...

Mercedes sort of make their own screwdriver,

sort of like a Maserati,

sort of like a Philips type thing.

Hold on.

Alfa Romeo.

Very complicated.

We can't do this.

Yeah.

What do they expect, though,

because there is no world where they make a bolt

that someone isn't going to reverse engineer

and make their own bit for it.

You can make it like a locking wheel nut type thing,

and they're still going to be able to do it.

Did other bolts start like that?

Yeah.

Like the Philips head, and the 10 mil,

everyone went, I've made a bolt.

I made a bolt.

It's 10 mil.

No makes that tool.

None of you have got that.

And the next day, someone went,

here is the 10 mil socket, ladies and gentlemen.

And they went, aah!

And they went, 11 mil.

11 mil.

And manufacturers went, I'm not using that.

Japanese, they got to like 13, 40, and then said,

we'll use those.

We'll use those.

The moment they got past 20,

they went, all right, calm it down.

Can't really be bothered with this.

Crank bolts.

We'll use some of those maybe,

and maybe some big wheels possibly.

Yeah, but that's an interesting one.

Also, it just feels a bit nasty.

Yeah, what the hell?

BMW going, you know what?

You've had enough.

We only want, literally, apparently the reason is,

is so that only BMW can work on it.

Yeah, exactly.

Also, there are other ways to do that.

Which is, they've been,

it's a big thing in America,

I believe, in the agricultural industry,

because they are basically,

they, you're not legally,

they're trying to make it not legal.

To work on your own farm equipment.

Crazy.

Which is ridiculous.

Yeah.

Because now, okay, now I have to go to this dealer,

and they go,

you need this, do you?

Yes, legally, you have to be here.

Well, I think we'll charge you some bread for that one.

We have to use our special screwdriver for it.

It's like insurance.

What about it?

It's a legal requirement, but it's unregulated.

But there are at least still options

that you could go to other ones.

Whereas this way, you go into the NWD.

Oh, it's manufactured only.

Yeah.

Oh, wow, that's tough.

Also, how long before that's on Aliexpress?

Oh, hell yeah.

Just different sizes and stuff.

You can hang up of car manufacturers.

You've got Honda who are there to support you

to restore your own car,

and then your BMW going, no, nothing.

No, I will say it's quite cool looking.

It, yeah, I kind of do like it.

Whether it's engine bay or like just like little details,

quite nice.

But also, if that's every single...

Nah.

Although, I think these are BMW people.

People with E36s, they just won't repair their car.

They're just going to have absolutely no solution to that car.

Oh, no, but the bolts, the bolts are there inside.

It's not like they're probably going to come around in the night

and replace all the bolts with the areas.

You can come out in the morning.

Damn it.

But also, it will just be newer cars that will come out with that.

Oh, that's fine.

What are you going to do to like an...

What is it?

An IEX?

What do you use that?

No, but look at new M3s and things.

They're getting modified more than they've probably ever been

in their life.

Still other people.

Yeah, but then give it a few years.

We're going to be driving them.

Also, could you not just...

Because like surely, because from the picture,

or like I don't know if it's a render or whatever,

it's just a normal thread pitch of a bolt.

Oh, yeah.

You just replace it with, you know, a bolt.

How's it out?

Getting it, getting it.

That's a crazy service I wouldn't have expected

in like five years from now.

DBMW bolting your car.

You just take it to a workshop and they take every bolt out.

It'll become a thing like locking wheel,

and that's where there'll be aftermarket ones.

Yeah, there'll be aftermarket ones,

and you have to buy the very specific screwdriver

or socket or whatever it is to undo that.

You go to work on a car like a used car you've bought.

You go to take the exhaust.

Right.

Is it in the glove compartment?

Oh, he's bought those things from demon tweaks,

hasn't he?

God's sake.

It's custom ones.

You have your own face on them,

and it can only unlock.

You got a Benke.

No.

Oh, that's a previous owner up there.

Edwin, you've put in here King's Address,

King's Speech Christmas Day.

That was on Christmas Day.

In the UK, we have the Queen's Speech or the King's Speech,

no longer the Queen's Speech,

where they address the nation.

I believe, now that I put this in before,

I believe it was poorly received or something this year,

but I don't care about that.

That's not what I'm here for.

Okay.

What I'm here for is imagine this on Christmas Day.

Happy Christmas.

Merry Christmas.

You can address the nation in a one-minute speech,

but you may say, I'd like you,

what are you going to tell them, motoring related?

It has to be moting related.

You've got a minute,

and the entire country is listening.

They've all tuned in.

Oh, a minute.

You've got a minute.

Everyone's sitting around their Christmas tree.

Well, they're sitting around it.

No, they're watching the TV.

There would be a crane plug,

because I mean the number's called.

Okay.

So I'm perhaps setting a timer right now.

Go.

You've got one minute.

Speak to the nation.

Ladies and gents, tune in to the CREAM podcast, please.

Subscribe.

Every single week, every Thursday,

sometimes a little bit later than usual.

Also, if you could all stop parking poorly.

Okay.

That would be fantastic.

And more importantly than any of that,

and I am the king after all.

No, am I the king?

Yeah.

I am the king.

And you've said that on camera.

I have said that on camera watching.

All right.

And you've also checked with, like,

whether you're helping us,

that you are the king.

You're wasting my time.

I've got like 30 seconds left.

You know, having a guy when you're helping us.

Yeah, please shut up.

Get the turkey on.

Waste man.

Middle lane hoggers, punishable by death.

Because I'm the king.

And despite the fact I don't drive,

I'm seeing it from the back of the range.

And if I see one more,

I'm going to machine gun you with an MG42.

Cool.

Merry Christmas.

Okay.

Benjamin.

I've got the Bristol-Ula zone

will no longer be operational

and all F-2000s will be Euro 4 compliant.

Now, I don't, I don't sweet.

I don't know that you are a lawmaker,

if I'm honest.

Sorry.

If I, if I were just advice,

no, if I worked in some sort of office

where they go through PCN disagreements,

whatever.

And I said the sort of the queen,

the queen, the king,

one of them had said,

listen,

if you saw the queen,

I think you'd be really shocked.

You'd be amazed.

You would be.

Yeah.

But if I saw the king saying,

you leases cancel,

I'd go fair.

All right.

Yeah.

That's all the PCN.

But it's not everyone in parliament.

That's not true.

By the way, you can't just do that.

Yeah.

You can't.

Yeah, but it doesn't,

it doesn't make laws,

but isn't the Prime Minister go over there

and say, yo, this is what's going on?

I believe when he first,

they first take office,

they go over and speak to him.

Let you know,

this is what will happen.

And the Prime Minister goes,

I don't remember this being part of my job.

Oh, by the way,

just get rid of PCNs.

Yeah.

But no, PCNs can stay,

but the bridge for you leases zone for S2000s is over.

Do you think like other cities

and they go, hang on,

the whole world is like,

I've got like 20 fines going in London.

No, I can't get rid of those.

Because it's no.

I just, I don't want to.

So you're sort of like on that sort of

nothing to it.

And then what I do,

and then that's like the first 30 seconds of the speech.

I also like the idea that that was part of the speech.

Someone off camera is going,

well, do you think that's all right then?

And then the next 30 seconds would be,

I guess, sort of like a one,

and you seem to drive off clearly in the direction

of the Bristol, you leases zone.

And then people know that is,

you'd say nothing about like,

no, well done, everyone.

Yeah.

Thanks for getting through another year.

No.

I'd say about the Bristol, you leases zone.

Then we just say,

I'm facing up for the 100 pounds of fine.

Yours is like a 10 seconds.

Short and sweet.

Like also no greeting.

No hello to the public.

The news.

Oh, okay.

You thought the,

we've got half an hour in place for this.

It's done.

I'd say for,

for you leases PCN as well,

you get like a fine, right?

So it's the same as before.

No, it's really not right.

But if you contact the council,

then they won't help you.

So the fine is 120 pounds,

but it's half of your pay in 14 days.

So it's 60 pounds.

Then they still make you pay the you less charge.

So it's 69 pounds.

So after all of that,

but after all of that,

you're like already a fine.

You still have to pay for the day you went in there

on top of the fine.

I thought, you know what,

get rid of that and just the 60 pounds is fine.

So that's what you'd say?

That's what I say in my speech.

I'd say, but I say only specifically for S2000s

in the Ulle zone in Bristol.

Okay, fair enough.

But I was interested.

I thought that I had something on the radio.

What's your 60 seconds?

Good evening.

I don't know what time it is in the day for you.

I think it's normally in the afternoon.

Lots of three o'clock.

Lots of time zones in the UK.

So, you know,

good evening or good morning,

wherever you are.

Perhaps expats, if you're listening.

Sorry, I'm wasting time.

I hope you've all been well.

Another year.

Another day.

Another dollar.

That's what I always say.

Why are you splitting other pounds, darling?

Anyway, I reckon you should really speed up

on those slip roads.

If I have people at my disposal,

they can be camped out on every slip road in the UK.

You never know which ones they are.

If you don't go quick,

you're not making it home.

You will be like my mum.

You're off.

You're gone.

Mum?

Wife.

Who is it?

Who's the queen to him?

Oh, Camilla.

Who was the queen to him?

His mum.

Who's the queen to him?

Yeah, that's what I said.

His mum.

I thought you meant you were not so confused.

I thought you were coming out with the conspiracy theory stuff.

No, no, none of that.

If you're in an S-class.

No, and you just...

Well, you could end up like that,

but more so, I'm just going to get someone to shoot you.

So, just speed up on that slip road.

Okay.

Or else, it's tough times for you.

Specific speeds?

70.

That's when you get on to the motorway.

Okay.

But if you're not building up to 70, you're done.

I'm not saying that when the slip road starts, it needs to be 70.

I don't want stopping on the launch control.

You need to be...

There needs to be a nice linear curve,

or it doesn't have to be linear, really,

just a progression to 70.

Yeah.

And would you tell folks to get out of the left-hand lane

to let people merge in?

Or would you?

Absolutely, I would.

Well, I would say that the only time

that's sitting in the middle lane is acceptable

is when there is a junction coming.

That's fine.

You've been moving to that middle lane.

That's the one time my MG42 will be off limits for that.

Just if you move that.

But anyway, I hope it's a great year for you and yours.

I'm the king after all.

No, happy Christmas?

No.

Okay.

No, because they're a multi-faith.

We've got all sorts.

Okay.

It's not about Christmas.

This is about sending a message.

I think he likes electric cars.

He does.

Tough one.

Donut.

Doesn't he run one of his cars on, like, not bio ethanol?

I think yeah, his old Jag.

Is it knee-tubbering and mocked to it?

Anyway, king speech, we'll revisit that next year.

If we could get some king speeches in the comments as well.

Just keep it a minute.

Don't want any essays.

Ben.

Hi.

Another point from you, but I'm hoping you'll remember.

FBI driving X5s.

Yes.

Which doesn't sound all too shocking to me.

If I was to.

The FBI.

Who are they?

The Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Female body inspectors.

Am I right?

I don't get it.

Have you ever watched, no, you know, I don't.

What film?

Other guys.

Classic.

I have seen that film.

All right.

Anyway, carry on.

Anyway, the FBI has used Chevrolet somethings.

Tahos.

For many years, it's quite iconic to see them.

Very.

And the head of the FBI, don't know who it is, has said,

yo, X5s.

Is he, is he CEO of BMW?

I don't know.

He's got, he's got an American van.

He's got.

Yeah.

So I'm American, but I think we should move to the BMWs.

That is a Tahoe.

Now it's X5 protection they're called.

Yeah, they are.

They've got their blast resistance.

All the stuff they would normally be, but.

I always, I'm saying to Will, I always find this funny.

They're called usually VR6, which is the different types of protection.

Protection.

So it's just an X5 of the VR6 in it, mate.

It's occurring.

Yeah.

It's a war.

Um, the, I wasn't going to say, I've asked that since then it's quite controversial.

Because obviously it's an American car.

I get it.

It's an American car.

You're showing off like your, your power.

So using American cars to show.

They do.

Like they, I think Escalades and Tahoe's and Suburbans, that's an American, like,

intelligence agency.

Oh, yeah.

If a black belt one of those is chasing you, you're done.

You're done for.

You turn one corner.

I mean, you're, you're escaped.

So I think, maybe that's why they went to the X5.

They're going, why do we keep losing perpetrators?

So it's because there's less turns on drag strip though.

Yeah.

Oh, even your car, but yeah, so that they've gone to X5.

So it is, it's not, it's not a big story, but it's just a quick one.

Do you know what?

Do you know why it doesn't work as well?

I know that they use Tahoe's and things for their normal police cars,

but we use X5s in the UK.

Yes.

And you, if your FBI is like an English police officer, it's not great.

Yeah.

Next step.

That's just for you.

Or like I let, um, this handleafs.

That's tough.

Yeah.

Let this please.

Now that car, I will agree.

It should be a Chevrolet because when I imagine, I imagine like a movie.

You know, like in a TV show, a movie, the FBI are coming.

It's a big old, what's it called?

Parade.

Not what it's called.

What does that mean?

What it is when they get all of them together and they're all like convoy.

Convoy, sure.

The convoy is coming, they're coming to get you and it's all scary and whatever.

That feels like when I imagine it like a French movie.

Yeah, I agree.

They're coming to get you.

It should be weird siren.

Yeah.

I've been watching, uh, Slow Horses, uh, because that's, they have the dogs,

which are like, they're the boys going and cleaning stuff up, you know.

It is, I don't know what this is.

Is this actual?

Yeah, I'm talking, no.

No, it's a process.

Ben doesn't watch anything.

So he's lost on any watches, romantic films, drum comps.

Ben watches love actually every night in cartoons, obviously.

But they drive around in L405, they're all back, either L405s or X5s.

And Matt, do you know what the X5s are not as cool with?

Because the L405s are damn cool.

Yeah.

But, yeah.

One of the few times I'll accept the sport as well.

That can be a baddies car.

Yeah.

What does MI5 drive?

Well, this is the set up to a joke, if I'm honest.

MI5.

Well, I think you wouldn't know.

Is that not, would that not be the point?

I guess, I guess.

Well, some of them are undercover police sort of.

Yeah.

They will be the same sort of cars.

What I mean is that I think America should be their Chevrolets.

Oh, what should they drive?

The X5.

Well, what do they drive?

What should they drive?

Because the X5 should be the German.

But it should be, should be Range Rover.

No, no, actually, no.

Well, it should be a fleet of Land Rovers.

It should be Rovers.

Land Rover Defend, like a modern Defender.

Yeah.

Oi.

If I win my five, that's my choice.

No, I'm not.

I'm going, I'm going.

I'm going Black Towel for L460.

The new big boy.

Oh, a new guy.

Yeah, but that feels a little bit luxurious.

Exactly.

That's what the head drives around in.

Okay.

So there's one of those at the front and then we'll have a couple.

No.

Yeah, I've got this.

L460 at the front.

And that's like James Bond or whatever the person in charge.

James Bond is called.

Okay.

And then you have, you have Range Rover Sports.

They're sort of like the quick, they're going to get you.

They're going to apprehend you.

And then you have the Defenders, which are like the sort of,

they do the dirty work.

They're bashing off the road there.

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Now, do you know what?

It's a, it's a staple of English police force.

The XC90s.

Yeah.

Subtle, but very angry.

It's not very like patriotic, is it?

No, but it's all fit.

The Jags are quite funny if they had Jags.

Can we chase him?

No, broken.

No.

Time again.

Time is gone.

Crack on.

Crack shot.

Mate, we have like 15 of these.

All of them.

Spental, isn't it?

Yeah, honestly.

And it's all steamed up inside.

No heating.

All that.

Quick chase him.

I can't see.

XFR would be quite, quite mean.

Like a black cat XFR would be a lot.

With a little bit of timing chain rattle.

I believe this about UK police force is that I know that it's about budgets and it's about,

you know, efficiency and that sort of thing.

But I think your police car needs to be intimidating.

Agreed.

If I see an, I'm not committing crimes, but if I was and I see a Nissan Leaf, I'm like,

Did the cover you mean?

Or what?

I just mean like a, like a Battenberg car.

That was called?

Yes.

Yeah.

Correct.

Do you know what?

I believe, I think it would inspire me to want to commit crime more if I saw an Nissan Leaf police

car because I'd be like, I'm not taking you seriously.

Literally nothing you can do.

This is a joke.

If I drive like 180 miles, you're going to run out.

I know that it says 120 on your dash, but you're doing 60.

Yeah.

And then the policeman starts to get range anxiety like round about 150.

Like I could keep on the chase, but then it will run out.

I'm going to have to tell off my headlights.

That it's bad for the motor.

If I'd let it run out to zero, it's not great.

In pursuit as well, your mileage is going way down.

Yeah.

Because then after the side, do I even run out of charge?

I've got the light on.

Obviously you can't get picked up.

Then you can't bring a jerry can of electricity, can you?

Or you go quick enough to slipstream and get in and then watch those miles go back up.

That's true.

But then also, then you have to decide,

Oh, do I slow back and, you know, like try and make it the next charging point?

I think...

Well, when they turn, are you using the regenerative braking to try and get some

miles back?

And it's a left, left, left onto.

Hold on.

I've got to slow down.

They're trying to box you in and like stop your car.

They're just using regen braking.

They're just running out of battery.

Yeah.

And that I'm, you know, the classic years ago now, but then you know the,

what course is it?

I don't know what the classic course that you imagine.

C, D, is it D?

But they are a C.

They're the ones I always think of.

Just a 1.2 course.

So I know, and it's not, I know, there's loads of people in the comments.

They're normally community.

Yeah, PCSOs.

Still, it needs to be a little bit like, well, okay.

That is the thing.

Americans do it right.

Your base is a Chawa Taurus was the first choice.

Even with Crown Vic, I'm a little bit like, oh, yeah, you're not,

I'm a little bit, I don't want to mess with you.

Yeah.

To an American, they're probably like, I'm, I run away from that.

But to me, I'm like, yo, that's a bit scary.

Partly because I know you might have a shotgun in the door.

Well, also because of need for speed, it's taught me it can keep up with the Veyron.

Yeah.

200 miles an hour, Crown Vic.

But also a Crown Vic would, I envision it like it could do a big old sort of power

slide you turn in front of me and stop.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like a Corsa.

You know that?

Oh, your neck.

Literally the top gear.

Yeah.

The top gear.

I'm just starting with like, you know the video,

is it an astro, astro state, the one that skids down a side street?

Yeah.

Classic.

No, if they did that everywhere, I'm scared.

Oh yeah.

Because I'm like, if the police were like, I'm willing to destroy this vehicle.

Yeah.

Or if they were handbrake turned, trained, where they're like, right, every time we

pull up, there's been a domestic down the road.

They're just, all the players are in sob, swapped Corsa Bs.

But then you can take it too far.

Like you can have Dubai where they, or they used to famously back up with

they have super cars, right?

Yeah.

To me, I'm then like, maybe I'll commit a crime, just have a ride in the next door.

Isn't that a bit of like a, like the Italian thing?

Exactly.

Yeah.

They will, all of them have, we had them, we had the RS 200 police car,

we had the Sierra Cosworth.

It's a like a press stunt thing.

And then sometimes if they seize like a drug dealer's car, instead of selling it

on, they will make it into like a promotional vehicle for the release force.

Because it's not getting crushed.

Exactly.

It's getting used.

Yeah.

And you are going to get.

Now, what if you just put Battenberg, if you're a drug dealer and you put

Battenberg on your car and you just went around selling drugs and being like,

no, you should confiscated to this one.

I think that's illegal.

No, look at the number on my shoulder.

One, three, one, two, three.

Now, how much Coke do you want?

P.C.

How much, how much have I got?

I don't know.

It's in the boot.

Next up is something I have lost in my mind.

There it is.

Reventon manual.

That's interesting to me.

Now, what is that?

I'm going to let him on down.

There isn't a Reventon manual.

Oh, okay.

Reventon, one of my favorite Lamborghinis of all time.

I would still have a Mercedes Lago over that.

Yeah.

Believe it or not, but it's still very, very cool.

Do you know what a Reventon is, Ben?

Mm-hmm.

Well, do you know what it's based on?

Mercedes Lago.

Exactly.

It's an RPS S40.

They sort of, but that is, it's aventador before of it.

Sorry, Ben.

But you like the Aventador.

How's that possible?

Have an Aventador or have a Mercedes Lago.

No, but it was before the Aventador.

Yeah, it's in between.

I don't want that.

But that's that nice little crossover.

It's nice.

No, it's cooler inside as well.

Now, I was, that's what I was going to say.

I don't know that.

Reventon has, or Reventon, whichever we want to say,

has the best instrument cluster on any car on earth.

And I only know that from playing Forza Horizon to fighter jets.

The whole thing is, it's meant to look and feel and not feel.

Do you actually know what this looks like, Ben?

No.

Right, in the background.

I don't know much about this car.

I just know that it looks like a mix and mix.

Also, exceptionally rare.

Yeah.

Five, five Coupes, five Verts.

Something ridiculous.

Like they're going to be pip-pippies.

How much?

Millions.

Millions?

Oh, many millions.

I think the last time I remember seeing oneself was for five or six mil.

But so sorry, carry on with your, and one of the few times that I think

metal satin paint allowed.

Agreed.

But basically, and this is also from the same chap I mentioned earlier,

Hexgraphica, certainly a message, I think it was actually a post from elsewhere,

but it basically said that a manual was an option for a Reventon.

In the same way that you could get an LP640 with a manual,

because it's the same engine, blah, blah, blah.

But because there are so few of them, no one chick picked it.

That's crazy.

Because also, I guess when they're so rare and you think,

am I going to be the only one with a manual and it's going to be

worthless and no one's going to want it.

But imagine you were that one.

That one person.

One drug lord.

Oh, sorry.

You know what?

I'll have a manual.

I thought there were far less.

There were 36 Reventon's total, 21 coupes and 15 roadsters.

Still not a lot.

I'm going to say, I do actually like it.

I'm staring at it because I've always, I've seen it a few times

and I've never really looked at it properly.

And now I'm looking at it properly and I'd had a little look at my phone

just then at a few more photos.

Now, if you'd like to go and look at this,

don't look at it on the screen and just search it up.

It's called Reventon startup.

Ben, look at this screen when it starts up.

Oh, that is an actual, like an actual fighter jet spec thing.

And then when it, when it revs, you might not see it,

but the, the revs climb, they, they hold on the gear

and then the revs bend up and around and they flip to the next one.

And we are, it's so cool.

It's really cool.

And again, like there are newer, you know,

screens in cars that like look clearer,

but that looks like fighter jet.

That looks like it's come out of a typhoon or something.

It's really, really cool.

But yeah, just the idea that they could have been,

can't change that now.

No one's ever going to convert a manual, um, Reventon.

Or maybe there will be.

It'll be post-possible, but it's very cool.

As an investment thing, it would be quite scary for someone to go,

you know what, I'm sorry.

But if it's a Mercedes-Benz logo underneath, surely you can.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You can, but because it's such a valuable car,

it's so rare, why would anyone ever do it?

But it was an option from the factory.

So they, Lamborghini would have been there,

someone could have said, you know what,

whack a manual in there.

And they probably would have gone, oh God sake.

Why has no one ever made a manual event at all?

It's a great question.

Well, I assume because there's no architecture for it.

Whereas with the Mercedes-Benz logo, you had it from factory.

You can make it happen, surely.

I'm sure you can, but it's probably so difficult.

There's something about the event at all,

being that single clutch noise.

I agree.

I'm just saying it's weird no one's ever tried that with the amount of crazy stuff people do.

I'm sure there will be.

I think they're worth too much.

No, I don't know because if people are doing Mercedes-Benz logo,

it's worth more.

But yeah, I don't think the appetite is there for that.

It's not the right age.

Horse power hunters.

Go on then.

Come on, mate.

Go on, have a go.

Like a fire speed in it.

Surely it's going to be worth money if you're the only manual.

I've got an old MX-5 gearbox somewhere.

I'll give you two.

I'm possibly surprised.

I'm more surprised there hasn't really been dual clutch.

Yeah.

In the whole, that has been the complaint about it,

other than the fact that they cost a biblical amount of money to run.

But the complaint is, the reason why some people won't buy one is the gearbox.

So why hasn't someone gone, well, actually, we could do that.

Again, maybe it's because it's new.

Peter, here's the new project for the TRS.

Get the event stores going.

I think the event store suits that though.

When I hear a little, not a Reventon, a Revealto changing gear,

I don't know what it is.

There's something that's missing there.

Yeah.

It's just something in the pause.

And also in an event as well, they have that like,

it's, I don't know what it is.

It's in the mapping or whatever it is where it just makes that noise.

Yeah.

That like, yeah.

In the downshift and also when they change gear.

It's not like a DSG file or something.

But it's, yeah, it just adds character to the noise, I think.

But I saw people when the Huracan came out,

because obviously that's the dual clutch, right?

People saying that actually they prefer the event store,

because it already looks so ridiculous.

It's already so wide.

So just, it's so far from any, like, I know it.

Do you know what it is?

These days it isn't, but it felt so crazy

that then having that being punched in the face sort of gear shift.

I'm sure it's that it's everyone on the outside goes,

nah, the single clutch is way better.

But anyone that's driven one or everyone is like,

no, it's just better to have the dual clutch

in the, what do you call it, the new one.

A lot of people, they would say it is,

it's just more of an event to go out.

In the event to go out.

And the whole famous thing is you change gear

and you get that kick in the back

and the launch control is insane.

Whereas in a dual clutch one, it just sort of works.

Yeah.

You just, when I hear a Temurario take away, I'm like,

yeah, it's just a bit, yeah.

Give me some drama and some noise and some excitement.

I've got breaking news.

Here we go.

Actually, I don't know.

I had a BBC news notification just then.

It's about driving.

Oh, here we go.

It'll be interesting.

Learner drivers in England and Wales

could face six month wait

before being allowed to sit a practical test.

Why?

I thought that's what they're doing already, right?

No, what it just is because of the wait time.

Oh, so between what?

Being 17, you'd have to be 17 and a half?

That's a headline.

I don't know.

But I would assume that's because they don't want people to,

you know, oh, I learned to drive in a field

and then they go and take a test the week after.

Hey, that's what I did.

Yeah.

But what I mean is that I guess for them,

it's like then you have six months

of actual learning time.

But then you'll, so what?

You have to be 17 and a half then to pass.

Or, yeah.

Crazy.

But you can learn, I guess, a 17.

Or six months from theory.

It's not a weird plan.

More information coming from Benjamin.

It's coming now.

Hang on.

I just read what it actually means.

So it's obviously a proposal.

It might not happen.

But it's because a high percentage of road deaths

happen from young drivers.

So I think it's to force you to learn for longer.

But...

Yeah, but I don't think that's going to change.

I don't think you will even know.

Because it's inevitable when you're 17 or 18 or...

Well, yeah.

Okay.

If you're older, you're probably less likely to be a dick.

But you're going to do it.

You've just been equipped with a two-ton metal death box.

And you want to go fast.

You're an idiot.

You're a child.

But it says...

You're going to do it.

The backlog from 2020 stuff is still going.

It's already six months as it is.

So it doesn't really make a difference.

But I guess forcing people to do that is kind of...

Because the whole point is that, well, okay.

I'll pitch something to you.

If people...

If you...

The difference big is that you're still going to pass a test either way, right?

Yeah.

So you can't control what happens after that.

It's like, right, of course, learning longer will...

It will learn more.

But you have to make sure you're like a people pass who are definitely able to pass.

I was going to say, in which case, make the test harder.

Exactly.

I was going to say, make it longer.

Make them do more things that goes, okay, these people are...

I'm more certain that this person can go on the road.

If there was a test that's harder, that means 20% of the people that are being...

That are being let through and crashing straight into a family fall don't get through.

Yeah.

And that's better than saying...

Also, if you're...

Give it six months, mate.

If you're a government going...

So this is the test that we've set out.

And then you go, yeah, but the test is not that great.

Brother, you made the test.

It's your test.

You can't go, yeah, but I'm not sure about that test though.

We change it then.

You guys go way longer to take that one.

It's not a good test.

The classic room silence.

A little cream pause.

Next up, Ben, this is from you.

Australia Special Licence for Supercast.

Yes.

I saw this.

I saw this headline.

And what is this?

I'm going to find out.

Australia, I'm as...

Because I've seen a few clips recently as well.

Australia already had licenses for...

I couldn't...

They've got all sorts of stuff.

Turbo.

If you're a newly passed driver, you can't have a turbo car.

Peep Lake.

You can't have a really good...

Yeah.

It's not really a thing, I guess, there.

But there was a video I saw, like a sort of viral clip I saw on Instagram.

The guy pulled over in a skyline.

S14 or Skyline, yeah.

It was a R32, I want to say.

And he gets pulled over and the policeman's going...

What's your intercooler for?

Yeah, he's like, I just show.

Just for show.

I'm about to boost gauge.

Oh, that's not hooked up to anything.

And he opens the bonnet and he's like, what's that?

It's a turbo.

See, I didn't know that to be fair about him,

but apparently it's because the guy got fine.

You get fine up to two and a half thousand Australian dollars, which is...

Now, let me look it up because for a memory, there's...

There are red, there are red P plates.

There are all sorts of different plates that you have.

That's a...

It's called a U license, this one.

And U class license.

And it's for ultra-high power vehicles,

covering cars of more than 260...

Sorry, 276 kilowatts per ton.

The produce by power to weight.

So, wow, power to weight.

And then so it's that...

Wait, you say the number again?

276 kilowatts per ton.

See, that's not that...

It's not not much, but it's not that much.

Like...

You take your seats out and you can't...

That's not high for car territory.

No, not at all.

That's $200 like a super car territory, really.

You're looking at like high power skylines,

any super is all that sort of stuff,

is that you're going to be...

M3s you might even end up in there.

Can we get it in real money?

So, sorry, it's a license.

You must pass or you must wait.

I don't know.

Sorry, how many do you say?

276 kilowatts per ton.

I didn't want kilowatts.

Why do they operate in kilowatts in Australia?

Must be upside down thing.

Hang upside down for long enough

and you start to forget what's meaningful.

276 kilowatts is 370 horsepower.

So, 370 per ton.

Okay, that's a fair bit.

You're looking at a decent whack.

It's a modified M3.

It's like a standard car.

What is that?

Let's have a look.

370.

You're looking at cars that are like...

Your average road cars that are 4500 horsepower plus.

It's said on the thing that it was most McLaren's

Lamborghinis and Ferraris is what it said.

So, even though that can't be that far off,

things like an M5.

Things that are new.

We've got a new V12 V12 Vantage Aston Martin.

An F430 Scuderia.

A 911 Turbo S exclusive.

Aston Martin Vanquish.

570S Spyder.

Gallardo Spyder Performante.

458.

378 per ton.

LFA Nürburgring.

SLR McLaren.

Because isn't it a DVR Cerbera?

There's like bikes or a similar thing here, right?

Where you can't...

In the UK, I mean.

Oh, yeah.

It's not the same for cars.

As long as you can ensure it,

you can pass your test tomorrow,

go out and buy yourself a Chiron, if you want.

But on a bike, I don't think you can do that.

Yeah, well, it's different.

It's different.

There's CCs up to like X.

And you can size.

Yeah.

But then my question is,

when like a supercar, how do you test that?

Is it do a 0-60 and not crash?

Is it...

Do you know what I mean?

Is it...

How can you prove that you are in control of that?

It might be an age thing.

It might be like...

Again, it might be...

Yeah, well, yeah.

A test would be weird.

You'd have to have supercars.

Also, yeah, I'll do that test.

Yeah, I failed.

I'll do it again.

Can you do a 0-200 in this event store?

Also, yeah.

They have to provide you the car.

Yeah, I'm just doing my fifth try at the test.

I just keep failing for some reason.

Anyway, can I have a go in that again?

Anyway, I'm entering this corner at 98 miles an hour.

Isn't that...

Isn't that quick to be fair?

What?

I can't track.

It turns like a right hand turn.

Not great.

I'm going to bed on the V-Rows around here.

This is easy.

No, I was trying to make it extreme.

Can I speed up?

I was trying to make it extreme.

I was like an event store on a track.

Also, quite extreme.

Sort of F1 spec, really.

But yeah, interesting.

I'm not sure I'd be that keen on that as a young in the UK.

If I knew I'd have to start like Gran Turismo.

Because I'm not doing license tests again.

Coffee break, mate.

Get this Honda Beat through these codes.

And then you can have a Honda Beat.

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Audio listeners.

Whoa, hold on.

Edwin, you're putting here Speed Awareness Course Car Guy.

I did a Speed Awareness Course.

Nice.

I did and I got...

And it was in the least cool car possible.

I was in the Land Cruiser picking up a set of wheels two months ago.

Nice.

And it was like 53 and a 50 or something.

Would you get a medal for that?

Yeah, incredible.

Genuinely incredible.

And I've never done a Speed Awareness Course before.

And I was watching through the...

They do like...

They play you a little video.

I know there are different versions.

There are different companies that provide this.

And I was...

There was a video that they were showing.

And there was a list of cars in there that I kept noticing in animations.

So, someone's had to animate this and they've had to choose cars now.

Normally, it's going to be a Jazz and a Micro.

And there were a couple of those.

But there were some interesting cars in there.

I've just written down the things that I saw.

There was Wills McGann, an RS250.

What the f...

A liquid yellow one.

And it was like used 5, 10 times, loads of times.

Yeah.

A badly modified A45 AMG.

Nice.

Like he had...

Well, sort of like going for the crowd really.

No, but it was just like Maxed and Design Splitters and stuff.

That's what I mean.

But like the people in the speed awareness place.

Place the dealer.

That's perhaps.

And then there was another 35 GTR.

But it was just used for like air.

They were talking about...

It was like towns that get polluted if you drive quicker,

car to police more.

And it was just shots of cars at traffic in town.

It was just like RS250 Nissan GTR, A45 driving around.

Which car person did this animation and went, all right?

I find the scenes.

Because I was watching it.

I was going, yeah, I'm paying to air.

Oh, that's it.

Hello.

Look at that.

The person doing it.

Why is that?

Why does he keep pointing at us?

He's very, very...

He's very invested in that.

He's online.

He's online, yeah.

He's online.

Can we see your face?

Yes.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, you have to have your camera on and your mic on.

Can't have a blurred background.

You can't.

I had the background blurred.

I did it here because I don't have Wi-Fi at home.

So I drove all the way here.

And the guy said,

can you turn off your blurred background?

I turned it off and the Doctor's On Call sign

was in the background in our little nook.

And I had to quickly take it down.

Oh, is that why it was down?

Yeah.

Otherwise, I thought someone's going to go,

are you a Doctor?

I mean, I then have to awkwardly go, no.

My friend, he blocks the...

He's not a fan.

Yeah.

Not a fan.

The man running it.

We go, that's...

He should be in here.

Get him in.

Join the call.

Ben Rogers.

Strictly what happened, is that?

But I've learnt my lesson.

I'm very sorry I won't do it again.

So, did you have to say that?

Yes.

You did.

Yeah.

Did you say sorry?

Well, you had to say sorry.

No, no.

He, you, at the end they're like,

show me a game plan of how you're not going to speed.

I said, I'm going to leave more...

One foot on the brake pedal.

And the accelerator should sort of limit me.

You do like a burnout.

That's quite good.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Three years.

See you in three years?

No, no, no, no.

So now you can't,

now you can't have another Speed Aware source for three years.

Correct.

Okay.

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Shit.

It's like a suspended sentence.

Exactly, yeah.

Oh, Tom, I'm out on parole.

That's 71.

Present.

Bail me out.

Free my guy, Edwin.

Next up, one word I can't say here.

McCann parking something, the name.

I was, I only had the raptor for a few days.

I decided to go to, this was New Year's Eve

and I went to Tesco's near me.

Big New Year's Eve for Will.

Big news, couldn't believe it.

Had to go and stock up on supplies.

Bro said, you know what?

Counted down the last days, last minutes.

Let's see what club card offers are on.

I've never seen the car park

to this Tesco so busy in all my life.

It was the, I went before Christmas, like 23rd, 24th,

nowhere near as busy.

I was struggling to find a space.

And the raptor as well, which is a big car.

It might be part of Long Boys Limited, I think.

It could be five, I believe it might be five minutes plus.

Honorary, honorable mention.

Yeah.

So I've backed into a space

because I'm a civilized human being.

Yeah.

Or bit, I understand why you might go front ways

because you can get access to your boot.

That's a hint there for what's coming.

I've reversed into the space.

I went to get out of the car.

My girlfriend was already out of the car

and then she communicated to me

that the McCann who I'd reversed,

not reversed into, but reversed up to.

Sticker's getting upset or something.

I don't know.

Can you get out of my car, please?

Said, I need to get something out of my boot.

Can you move forwards?

I expressed a little bit of disinterest

and I thought, well, why is that my problem?

I'm in my space.

I don't really care.

But I thought you've both reversed in.

She was already there.

But she's reversed in as well.

She's reversed in as well.

Yeah.

So you're, you're, you've both,

you know, we're both doing the same thing.

You've both, I happen to be in a large car,

but I'm not overhanging my space.

That is key.

I'm possibly, I'm literally on the line,

but it's either that or poke the nose

right at the front.

And it does not ideal.

It does really.

It does do that.

So the woman said to my girlfriend,

I need to get something out of the boot,

bangs or whatever.

Can you pull forward a bit?

I was like, okay, fine.

I agreed in the end.

So I'll be nice.

It's a new year after all.

And I pulled forward temporarily.

And I maybe waited 30 seconds to a minute.

And I looked to my mirror

and she was still sat in the driver's seat

and just messing around with things on her,

like reaching over into the back seat.

And I was done at this point.

So I just reversed back into the space

and got out of the car.

And she went apeshit at me.

I walked past the car and she was like,

you are selfish.

I just need to get something out of my car.

She went absolutely.

I was like, I just need to get something out of the boot.

I waited for you.

I pulled forward and waited for you.

And then she started getting absolutely mental at me,

telling me I should look for another space.

Also, hold on just quickly.

You move forward.

That's what this one says.

She's in a mechan.

I'm in a raptor.

I could just drive over you woman.

I will destroy that mechan if I have to.

But it's not my car.

So I can't.

Anyway, so she's going absolutely mental at me.

And I was a bit very, very confused

because I was like, you could literally pull forward

or whatever.

And then she said, I've forgotten.

Let me think.

I know what it was.

That's what it was.

Please leave that.

One of the first things I noticed

is that she was wearing AirPods.

And then she said to me, and this really pissed me off.

She said, when I said, I pulled forward and waited for you.

And she said, I was on the phone.

Oh, sorry, mate.

Oh, you let me know when I'm on.

Well, I didn't quite.

I just said, oh, I'll wait for your phone call, shall I?

Also, you have AirPods.

Yeah.

You're not on the landline in the can.

It's got a rotary.

You can actually go anywhere and do that call.

You could be on the moon and do that call.

So she said that to me.

I was really not happy at all.

And then I walked off.

I was like, I'm away from this.

She was a very angry human being.

I was like, I'm not going to partake in this.

New Year, same me.

So I punched her.

I said, anyway, I'd back to her before she could get me.

But then she's pulled out of her space.

Absolute light speed.

Right.

Like trying to shut us up, basically.

Like, I thought, well, I'm going to be killed

by a mad woman in a can, aren't I?

And she zoomed on.

Zoomed along.

Nice way to go.

She zoomed alongside me.

Window up at this point.

Airport's still in.

Of course, she's still on the phone.

She's just listening to Natasha very well.

And she's just like raging at me through the window.

And then she's just stand on the brakes

and whizzed out the junction.

But driving like an actual bell end.

Yeah.

In a busy car park.

I'm stunned.

She didn't mash someone's trolley in or knock a child over.

Crazy for me.

I've never heard that one.

I couldn't believe it.

I was stunned.

That's wild.

The thing is that there are some people who are just

their weight.

They've got that fuse that's ready to go for something.

It doesn't matter what it is.

It was that I'm on the phone.

I was like,

I'll kill you.

That's interesting because I'll kill you.

A great return.

I am in a pickup truck.

You picked the wrong house full.

You're lucky this is a press car

because if it was a normal Raptor owner,

I may have killed you.

Oh yeah.

Your lead pipe's gone.

Imagine the idea of like you reverse on someone's driveway

and you just get in your boot.

And then so you just go,

Oh, keep the house plates.

Mate, I wish I remembered a number plate so I could dox her.

I know it was M6 or something.

If you see a McCann around the local area,

please feel free to do it.

I'm a shim.

Okay, but anyway,

it's final thing we'll get to today is,

actually, it will make us,

well, not you.

It won't make you feel old

because you don't know what we're talking about.

Is the Fast and Furious Charger.

The charger in Fast and Furious,

the original Fast and Furious 60s charger.

Yes.

It was like the late 60s.

The late 60s charger.

When that movie came out,

that car was about 30 years old.

Oh no.

Do you know what the sort of equivalent would be now?

Okay.

It'd be like a Kamaro,

like a, what do you call it?

Like a 2005 catfish?

Catfish, like that.

Like that sort of like would be the equivalent.

Like a late 90s car is the equivalent

to what that charger is now.

That's rough.

I can't actually picture a car

that from that era,

like 30 years ago, 30, 35 years ago,

that is the vintage car.

That would be that.

Yeah, that's rough.

That's really tough to say.

And obviously now it's like 60 something years old.

But still, I saw that as a point

on Instagram somewhere and I looked at it

and I was like, that's sad.

Because also at the time,

you could pick up chargers for cheap.

They were not what they are now

where every single car is a 50 grand car.

Yeah.

You could find them for a couple grand.

But in that post, it said there was some like equivalence.

So like this, it would be,

I can't remember, I'll have to find it.

And where it basically said equivalent,

this would be these cars

and it was a couple of tough cars really

compared to a sort of 60 charger.

Rough.

We're all getting old.

But and cars do that too.

And Ben still hasn't watched any of those films.

So this year, that's our new year's resolution.

You are getting old.

No, you're old.

Thank you.

I know.

I don't care though.

Thank you very much for listening to this episode of Cream.

Back at it again.

We'll see you as always next week,

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Maybe our hands will be alive still.

German chat.

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