MOT is the UK safety check your car has to pass to be allowed on the road. If it “fails,” you have to fix the problems before you can drive it legally.
Brake pipes are the lines that send brake fluid to the brakes. If they need work, it’s often because they’re leaking or corroded, and that can make the brakes less safe.
The alternator is the part that powers the car’s electrical system while you drive and keeps the battery charged. It’s connected to the engine with a belt, so problems can sometimes be in the belt/pulley instead of the alternator.
A pulley is the wheel the belt rides on. If the pulley’s bearing gets worn out, it can make annoying noises even if the main part (like the alternator) is still okay.
An idler is an extra small pulley that helps guide the belt. If there aren’t many idlers in the belt path, it can help narrow down where a rattling noise is coming from.
The Volkswagen Golf is a compact car that’s practical for everyday driving. The podcast mentions a Golf GTD, and they’re talking about getting new wheels for it. It’s brought up because it’s part of their car ownership plans.
Bushings are small parts that use rubber to help the suspension move smoothly and quietly. If they wear out, the car can feel less tight and start making noise.
The Nürburgring is a legendary race track in Germany. It’s known for being really tough on cars, so people use it to test how well a car actually performs.
The Audi TTS is a sporty version of the Audi TT. It’s meant to feel quicker and more performance-focused than the regular TT. The podcast mentions it because they’re looking at options and considering TTs.
The Audi TT is a small sporty Audi with a coupe or roadster body style. They’re talking about older versions (Mark I and Mark II) and how vehicle checks can reveal problems more often on higher-mileage cars.
The Audi RS6 is a super-fast, performance-focused Audi sedan/wagon (depending on market). Here, they mention it because they’ve already seen similar issues when checking vehicle history on cars like this.
The Volkswagen Golf R is the fast, performance version of the Golf. They bring it up because they’ve seen concerning vehicle-history issues when checking cars like this.
CarVertical is a service that checks a car’s history using records from different sources. They’re saying it can help you spot warning signs like accidents, theft, or a tampered odometer.
“Clocked” means someone has changed the car’s odometer so it looks like it has fewer miles than it really does. It’s a red flag because it can hide how much the car has actually been used.
A V6 is an engine with six cylinders arranged in a V shape. It’s just a way of describing the engine layout the speaker is talking about.
Term
heavy front end
“Heavy front end” means the front of the car feels like it has more weight or control than the back. That can change how the car turns and how it feels in corners.
Term
heavy four drives
This sounds like the speaker is saying the car’s all-wheel-drive system makes it feel heavier and changes how it handles. The main idea is that the drivetrain and weight distribution affect steering and cornering.
Company
SPR
SPR sounds like a local garage or shop the host is using to fix problems on the car. They’re working on the car while it’s being sorted out.
The crankshaft position sensor is a part that tells the car’s computer where the engine’s crankshaft is. If it’s faulty, the engine light can come on and the engine may not run right.
The Renault Megane E-Tech is an electric car based on the Megane. Instead of using petrol, it runs on a battery. The podcast mentions it because someone is waiting for the car to be ready.
The Porsche Taycan is an electric Porsche. “eShift” is a feature that makes the car feel like it’s shifting gears, even though it doesn’t have a normal manual or automatic transmission.
CVT stands for a transmission that can adjust ratios smoothly instead of using fixed gears. Some cars add paddle shifters so it feels more like normal gear changes.
The Hyundai IONIQ 5N is a sporty electric Hyundai. The hosts are using it as an example of how simulated shifting can create a noticeable, sometimes jerky, sensation that some people find entertaining.
The Range Rover is a big luxury SUV made by Land Rover. It’s built to be comfortable on normal roads but still capable off-road. The podcast mentions it because the host is talking about their rental experience.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car designed for speed and fun driving. The podcast mentions a very high-performance Corvette variant, described as an extreme version. It comes up because it’s notable for being unusually powerful.
Trap speed is the car’s top speed right at the end of a drag race run. It helps you understand how fast the car is getting by the time it reaches the finish area.
A certified roll cage is a strong safety frame inside the car. It’s approved to meet safety rules, and it’s required for faster drag-racing cars to help protect the driver if something goes wrong.
Terminal speed is the top speed the car reaches by the time it gets to the end of the track segment. In drag racing, organizers use that speed to decide when extra safety gear—like a parachute—becomes necessary.
The P1 GTR is a high-performance McLaren built for track use. The discussion here is about how its carbon-fiber safety structure can be very strong, potentially changing whether you need extra roll-cage protection.
A carbon tub is the main safety “shell” of the car’s cabin made from carbon fiber. It’s designed to be very strong in crashes, so the car can be safer even without extra metal bracing.
The R129 Mercedes SL refers to the 1990s generation of the SL roadster, notable for its classic styling and refinement. It’s a popular “thinking man’s” choice because it blends luxury with real driving feel, and many examples are now bought as enthusiast classics.
A quick jack is a portable device that uses hydraulics to lift a car off the ground. It’s handy for working underneath, but you still need the right spots on the car to lift safely.
The Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG is a high-performance version of the Mercedes E-Class. It’s designed to be faster and more exciting than the regular model. The podcast mentions it because they’re dealing with the car while it’s up on a lift.
A subframe is like a reinforced “frame within the car” that holds up parts such as the suspension. If it’s bent or damaged, the car can handle poorly, so it may need to be repaired or replaced.
The Ford GT40 is a famous race car from Ford, known for winning big endurance races. In this segment, they’re using it as a style comparison for what the new car looks like.
24 Hours of Le Mans is a famous endurance race held in France, known for its long-duration strategy and prototype/GT competition. Mentioning it here signals that the builder/driver is involved in high-level endurance racing, not just casual car mods.
“Dual lights” just means there are two headlight lamps in the setup. It’s a styling/packaging detail that can help identify a specific version of a car.
Here “skirt” means the lower side body panel near the ground. The speaker is pointing out how close it sits to the road, which affects how the car looks and how it can manage airflow.
The Audi R8 is a supercar from Audi. In this part, they’re talking about how its doors open, because the car they’re looking at has a different door setup.
The Lamborghini Gallardo is a supercar from Lamborghini. The podcast talks about modifying Gallardos with special doors that open in a more dramatic way. It’s mentioned because that kind of upgrade is something people do to this model.
Scissor doors are doors that open upward, kind of like they’re hinged to move out of the way. They’re designed so the door clears the car’s body as it swings up and out.
Term
dihedral
“Dihedral” is a word people use for some upward-opening door designs. The host isn’t totally sure here, but they’re basically trying to match the door’s motion to the kind you see on certain supercars.
Term
ventor door doors
This sounds like the host is talking about a particular kind of fancy upward-opening door. They’re basically saying they don’t like the version that doesn’t open straight up, because it doesn’t look right.
The Lamborghini Diablo is a very high-end supercar made by Lamborghini. It’s known for being visually dramatic and extremely fast. The podcast mentions it as an example of a Lamborghini model with a memorable look and character.
Term
Contacher
They’re referencing the Lamborghini Countach, which is well known for doors that lift upward. The point is that the door should open straight up to look right.
A restomod is when someone keeps the classic look of an older car, but upgrades the important parts with newer technology. The host thinks the goal is to keep it looking like the original car, just make it work better.
“Singerized” is a nickname for a style of classic-car makeover associated with Singer Vehicle Design. The idea is to keep the old car’s personality and appearance, but improve the technology so it drives better.
This is an Audi A6 “allroad,” which is basically a more rugged-looking version of the A6 wagon. It’s meant to look and feel a bit more outdoors-capable than a normal sedan/wagon, and the episode is also talking about the new A6 generation having both electric and gas versions.
An electric version means the car is powered by electricity from a battery and an electric motor. In this episode, they’re saying the new A6 lineup will include both electric and gas versions.
A combustion engine version is the traditional gas/diesel kind of car, where fuel is burned in an engine to make power. Here it’s being contrasted with the electric version of the new Audi A6.
Term
Citroen Picasso front lines
This is a design comparison. The host is saying the Audi’s front-end looks like the front of a Citroën Picasso, which has a particular shape and styling that they don’t like.
The Porsche 911 Dakar is a special 911 that’s designed to look and feel more off-road, like a rally car. The host is saying the Audi allroad gives a similar “rugged special” impression.
“Four liter twin turbo” describes a big 4.0-liter engine with two turbochargers. The idea is more power and quicker boost, and the host is talking about an engine swap.
Alpina is a company that takes certain BMWs and turns them into special versions. The hosts are debating whether the car really uses Alpina parts or just copies the look.
Term
power figure
A “power figure” is the published number for how strong the engine is. In this case, they’re correcting it to 790 horsepower.
Horsepower is a number that tells you how strong the engine is. Higher horsepower usually means the car can accelerate more quickly, though weight and gearing also matter.
Term
track shot
A “track shot” is video filmed while the car is driving, usually to show it in motion. The hosts are saying it looks better in motion than it does in the studio photos.
Term
studio shot
A “studio shot” is a car photographed or filmed while it’s parked under controlled lighting. The hosts are saying the car’s look doesn’t work for them as well in that static presentation.
The BMW 5 Series is a larger, comfortable BMW meant for everyday driving with a more premium feel. The podcast mentions a specific 5 Series variant and contrasts it with an M5. It comes up because it’s part of the same family of cars.
Term
moustache thing
They’re describing a specific styling piece on the rear bumper that looks like a “moustache.” It’s the kind of visual detail that can make one car’s rear look different from another’s.
“520d SE” is a BMW 5 Series diesel model with an “SE” trim level. They’re saying the rear bumper was swapped so the car’s back end looks more like a different BMW.
The BMW M5 is BMW’s fast, performance-focused version of the 5 Series. Here, they’re pointing out how the rear styling looks, especially around the part under the bumper that helps with airflow.
A diffuser is a shaped part under the back of the car that helps air flow smoothly as the car moves. It can make the car feel more planted and also changes the rear design.
The BMW M4 is BMW’s sporty M car. This mention is about a carbon-fiber version, which generally means lighter materials and a more performance-oriented build.
A badge is the nameplate or logo on the car that tells you what model or version it is. Here, they’re looking closely at the letters/numbers on the back to figure out which one it is.
They’re talking about station wagons (“estates”) and saying the market for them feels like it’s slowing down. The point is that fewer companies are making them because demand isn’t as strong as it used to be.
The W210 is the Mercedes E-Class generation from the late 1990s/early 2000s. It’s a popular “grown-up” Mercedes people often talk about when comparing how reliable older cars really are.
Term
Ohm 606
“Ohm 606” is the name of a specific Mercedes diesel engine. They’re using it to argue about whether that engine was really reliable in real ownership.
Term
famously reliable
“Famously reliable” means people have a strong reputation that something rarely breaks. Here, they’re saying the real-world experience didn’t match that reputation.
“Single turbo” means the engine uses one turbocharger instead of two. It can affect how fast the car feels like it gets power and how the power comes on as you rev.
Term
OEM 606
“OEM” means the factory version. “606” here sounds like an engine code—basically the specific factory engine they’re talking about swapping out for something else.
Term
SL300 engine
“SL300 engine” means an engine from (or associated with) a Mercedes SL300. The speaker is talking about swapping engines—putting a different engine into a car than what it originally came with.
The BMW E36 M3 is a famous older BMW performance model from the 1990s. People often used it as a style and performance reference, and here they’re saying it influenced what car designers and owners wanted their mirrors to look like.
The Volvo 850 R is a faster, sportier version of the Volvo 850 from the 1990s. In the story, it’s used to show the speaker’s personal connection to that time period of cars.
A skid is when your tires lose traction and start sliding. It often happens when you brake too hard or turn too sharply, especially on wet or slippery roads.
The Volvo 850R is a sportier, higher-performance version of the Volvo 850. It’s a turbo model that’s more enthusiast-focused than a normal Volvo, and it’s fairly sought-after today.
This is a Volkswagen Golf GTI from the Mk2 generation. It’s a popular older “hot hatch” model, and it’s mentioned as another car in the family’s driveway.
Concept
crash Ferrari
A “crash Ferrari” implies a salvage-style purchase: a Ferrari that has been in an accident and may have structural or systems damage. Buying one for modification/restoration often requires careful inspection because hidden damage can drive costs and affect how safe and valuable the finished car will be.
Concept
modify it
“Modify it” means taking a car and changing it from how it came from the factory. If the car is crashed, the work can get complicated because you’re not only fixing damage—you may also be changing parts.
Concept
buy a crashed one
Buying a crashed car is when you try to get a cheaper base car and then fix it up. The downside is you might discover expensive hidden damage once you start repairing it.
The Ferrari 550 Maranello is a classic Ferrari with a big V12 engine. People like it because it’s a well-known, mod-friendly supercar compared to some more complex modern cars.
Bring a Trailer is a website where car enthusiasts buy and sell cars through online auctions. The sale price can give you an idea of what similar cars cost right now.
A “V12” means the engine has 12 cylinders arranged in a V shape. The hosts are debating what you really gain from that—like how it drives and feels—if you can’t afford one.
Concept
ST1000 fund
They’re talking about a separate savings bucket called an “ST1000 fund.” The idea is that money set aside for a goal could cover the deposit, even if the person says they can’t afford the car right now.
The Lamborghini Revuelto is a modern supercar made by Lamborghini. The podcast mentions it as a car that could be especially appealing to the speaker. It’s discussed because it’s a standout option among Lamborghini models.
The Lamborghini Countach is a famous older supercar from Lamborghini. It’s known for its distinctive shape and being a real “icon” among sports cars. The podcast mentions it because someone finally got to drive one.
The TVR Tuscan is a sports car made in the UK. It’s known for being exciting and different from more mainstream sports cars. The podcast mentions it because the speaker says they’ve always loved it.
The Lamborghini Huracan is a supercar made by Lamborghini. The podcast brings it up by asking whether it appeals to the speaker. The answer suggests it isn’t a strong match for their preferences.
The Aston Martin V8 Vantage is a sports car made by Aston Martin. It uses a V8 engine and is designed to be fun to drive while still being practical enough for normal use. The podcast mentions it as a possible car someone might want to own.
The Aston Martin V12 Vantage is a sports car from Aston Martin with a V12 engine. A V12 is a larger, more powerful engine layout than the smaller ones you might see in other sports cars. The podcast mentions it because someone is thinking about owning one but isn’t sure.
Term
Fake items in the world
They’re talking about fake/counterfeit stuff. If it’s about wheels, the concern is that fake wheels might not be strong enough or might not fit correctly.
They’re talking about replica wheels—wheels that look like a famous original design. Some are made to copy the style, while others may be official parts from the car maker.
Term
CSL wheels
“CSL wheels” means a specific BMW-style wheel design that people recognize and want. Because the look is popular, some cars end up with replica wheels that imitate it.
Term
CS wheels
“CS wheels” refers to a particular BMW wheel style that car people recognize. The point is that the wheel design is part of the “wanted” look, so copies exist.
Wheel offset is where the wheel sits relative to the center of the rim. Changing it can move the wheel in or out, which can affect clearance and the car’s look.
“CSL replicas” are wheels that are made to look like the original BMW CSL wheels. They’re usually cheaper, and the host is saying they’re okay with that as long as the look is right.
Stamping markings are the little stamped codes or identifiers on a wheel. The host is saying some replicas don’t match the real wheel’s exact stamped details.
A “T37 sticker” is a label on a wheel that’s meant to make it look like a specific wheel model. The host is saying the sticker isn’t enough—you have to compare the wheel’s actual shape and details.
Forged wheels are made by squeezing metal into shape under pressure. The idea is that they’re usually stronger and better than cheaper cast wheels, which is why people pay more for them.
A collector car is a vehicle valued for its originality, history, and authenticity rather than just everyday performance or cost. In the segment, the hosts say people pay big money for hard-to-find wheels mainly when they’re building a collector car that needs to look and spec like the original.
The BMW Z3 is a small roadster. Here, they’re talking about replica builds that start from a Z3, and they claim people react differently depending on what the car is based on.
A diesel engine is a type of engine that runs differently than a gasoline engine. The hosts are saying that putting a diesel into a car meant to look like an M3 is a big mismatch that upsets people.
The Metro 6R4 is a rare performance car that’s tied to rally racing history. The podcast says it could be worth a lot of money, meaning it’s a collector’s item. It’s mentioned because it’s an unusually valuable car.
Viscosity is basically how thick the oil is and how easily it flows. Thicker or thinner oil can change how well it protects the engine, especially when it’s cold.
“10W” is the part of the oil grade that tells you how the oil works in cold weather. The “W” means winter, and it’s about how easily the oil flows when it’s chilly.
Winter viscosity is the cold-weather part of the oil rating. It’s there to help the oil still flow and protect the engine when temperatures are low.
Term
engine to just withstand
When manufacturers say they “develop the engine to withstand” a wide range of conditions, they’re talking about engineering durability and lubrication performance across different climates and oil specifications. That’s why oil grades may vary by market, and why a single “manufacturer weight” might not perfectly match every region’s needs.
Coolant is the liquid that keeps the engine from overheating and also helps it not freeze in winter. In cold weather, the right coolant mix is important to avoid damage.
Gearbox oils are special lubricants for the transmission. They’re made to handle gears and shifting, so you shouldn’t assume engine oil is the same thing.
An oil change is when you replace the engine oil. It keeps the engine lubricated and helps prevent wear, and hot weather can make oil break down faster.
Term
oil to another
They’re talking about using different kinds of engine oil (different “weights”/grades). Instead of switching all at once, they’re suggesting a gradual transition as the old oil gets used up.
The Honda S2000 is a small sports car with a high-revving engine. They’re talking about changing oil grades gradually, which is basically choosing the right oil type/weight for how the car is being used.
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I think you have a new car on the block.
Love the deep throat growl.
What make is it?
I'd like to turn this back around on you,
turn the gun back on yourself.
Sure, and then can you pull the trigger, if possible, please?
Because you can't drive to watch a car,
but you can car to watch a drive.
car, but you can car to watch a drive.
That made more sense.
Hello and welcome back to the cream podcast.
The cars rule everything around me podcast with myself, Will Edwin,
to my right and Benjamin Rogers over there.
Hello.
At the beginning of every single one of these podcasts,
we ask ourselves if cars have ruelled or ruined our lives this week.
Edwin, it's ruined again.
What the?
Good save.
Good save.
Yeah, there have been annoyances.
First, I was very excited because I got the M3 back.
I was like, this is great.
M3 is back from paint.
It's all good.
Colour is not right.
I think we talked about it a little bit in the last time.
The colour is not right.
So it needs to go back after we get back from the Nurburgring.
I have lots of things to do to that car before we go away in two weeks.
It the bonnet won't open now.
Yeah, no, that was interesting.
The bonnet won't open and funnily enough, the things I need to do to it,
they're inside of the bonnet.
That's kind of in a car.
Lots of things are in the bonnet that you need to get to.
So it won't open.
So that's unfortunate.
I thought I could use my E36 Silvercar.
I'll just quickly put an MOT on that and away we go.
No, that fell on MOT.
I just took that this afternoon and I now have to do four brake pipes on it.
Nice.
In before the morning.
So that's going to be a nice evening for me.
I'm in ruin for this reason.
Benjamin.
I'll be in rule.
Oh, is that okay?
My car, my golf, you know what?
My golf is currently scaring me.
That's not how that kind of relates.
Usually, usually it's I'm in rule.
Here's a positive.
I'm in rule because I only have my golf met still.
That's wild to me that it's a rule because he doesn't own an SEL anymore.
Why?
It's crazy that currently only have one car to sort out.
But the engine of it is it's making not making not what making noise.
That's how you know it's going.
It's like a rattling noise.
Yeah, it is.
No, it's something I've got.
I think next Friday it will be fixed.
But it's something to do with the Orcs Belt system.
There's like tensioners, I think.
And then fingers crossed.
That's your problem.
You've got no Orcs Belt.
And the what's that thing called?
It's not turbo.
Engine.
Everyone jokes it's a turbo.
What's it called?
Alternator.
That's it.
Alternator.
That's a tough one.
That's tough.
You said that, you know, out loud.
No, because I was trying to think of what it was called.
Alternator has like a pulley on it, which has a bearing or something on it.
And on that car, they go.
So it's just the pulley and the bearing, not the alternator.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, it's a new pulley you can put on the alternator.
So having that done, tensioner done.
And that's I think for the actual Orcs Belt system on that,
there's no other idlers as far as I'm aware.
So then it should hopefully stop rattling.
And if not, I'll be quite sad.
I'm scared of.
It's one of those noises where I know it's fine, touch wood.
It feels it's a noise.
I don't like it feels like it could just go.
Cheers.
Off I go.
It's not actually a necessary issue, I hope.
But it's just it's one of those things I keep getting out of it.
I keep getting out of the car and then just hearing it.
I reckon it's one of those things that only you as the owner.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's I only hear it's probably just fine.
Because the only time I get out of the car when it's running, really,
is when I in the morning when I get here, if I have to open the gate,
obviously, pull up to the gate, you open it as I'm the gate here.
And then then I obviously walk around the car past it.
I can hear on one side of the end of the belt.
So it sounds a bit rattling.
Anyway, it's probably I'm terrible for that.
I'm I constantly believe there is a new noise every time I drive my car.
I drive it and I go, that wasn't there.
I wasn't there before.
And then I go drive it again.
I'm like, that's the same.
So there's normal.
But hold on, there's a new noise.
Now it's this one.
It sounds like it sounds like a more rattly diesel.
But then also, you can if you if you listen to the nuances of it,
you can hear it almost sounds like some things like an extra little like
it will rattle constantly at a constant and you have a little
all the way.
And that's from the car, not you.
Yeah, I was purring at the car.
A cat.
What are your other worries?
Then are you worried it might be something bigger, like a flywheel or something?
It's not a flywheel because on the wrong side of the engine for that.
OK.
I know.
I'm worried it would be like because it's obviously a vibrating
sort of like clacking noise.
You know, engines make noise.
Yeah.
So now do you want to tell the gang about your potential new wheels?
Yes, I have new wheels for my Golf GTD.
Not yet. We haven't maybe.
Yeah, we must.
Well, I asked your price and then you told me.
Would you tell me? We said make your an offener.
I said exactly.
I'm an offer.
OK, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
OK, so for the audience, they are off this golf art that if you're watching,
you can see Cadiz behind the guys.
They are Golf Mark 7 Cadiz wheels.
I currently have Nagaros recently refurbished
in gloss black but unmarked with brand new tires.
Sorry.
Shod, please.
Shod in rapid speed.
Six oh nine's, I believe.
And the truth.
The ones you want.
The truth.
The truth.
They are very cheap.
We'll refer that's been sprayed fully black to not show anything.
And they're on cheap ditch finders.
Correct.
In cheap ditch finders.
Very nice.
Wrapped.
So basically, I would like to the wheels on my golf.
It's just sales talk now.
Yeah, I want to explain the context.
He was a fling.
The wheels on my golf are the one part of it that really lets it down, I think.
So let me tell you why my offer is this.
Now, Ben, I'm really they let it down because they're actually really quite
scratched up and it wasn't me.
I got it that way.
Yes.
So I don't like them.
Oh, they're just getting further and further away, isn't it?
Because they have this design of them.
Have you got a very small violin?
Am I allowed to speak on this?
This is gone.
So I just not.
This is better than the dealership from New Coquine.
And my car's broken.
I also can't get to work and please can I have money off?
Just put the offer in the bank, bro.
They had the design of them.
The girls have these weird triangles in the corner of the spokes.
I really don't like.
So I want to get rid of them.
And then we have this go far with these wheels.
Yeah.
So I want to buy them.
Edwin said, do you want to buy them?
Right.
So I'm going to buy them off you guys for off the business to be fair.
And I mean, you just so you know, I'm just having a look on.
OK, I've just had a look on eBay.
What they're selling for.
Yeah. So please, please go ahead.
You've done your research, obviously.
Yeah, you took the market.
You've done the same.
You've done the camel.
Off you for them.
You've seen what they're also will do in another video.
So it's still content for the business.
I'm going to say, OK, 100 pounds.
OK, that's that's what the last set sold for.
That's 450 pounds.
Yeah, but how do we know those ones were sold to one of the boys?
What's that mean?
Well, you get a little makes, right?
Is it discount?
So you're buying one wheel.
So so if you were a mate, you'd get a discount.
Yeah. Cool.
So we're looking about 400, 500.
Ben, the wheels are yours for 200 pounds.
OK, 150.
It's me in the middle.
175. That's not the middle.
I said 100.
You did. Yeah.
OK, 150.
I thought I just said 200 and you went, let's meet in the middle.
One 50. One 70 and I'll gift you my car for content as well.
Giving you my personal car for content.
That's what we do anyway, because you won't fix your own car.
Yeah, I know that.
One 75. Let's meet in the middle of the middle.
OK, 160.
Do you want me to find out what's in the middle of one 50 and one 75?
Yeah, would be 11 67 and a half.
On 60. Yeah.
Is that it?
Should we go 169?
It's funny. 169 is good.
All right, very nice.
It's actually middle points, 162.5.
So you've talked yourself up.
So 169 pounds.
Good stuff, Ben. We'll go with that.
Thanks, Ben. What a fantastic deal we have done.
Cool. Fantastic.
Thanks very much.
Now, also, before we actually get on to my rule of ruin,
which is a rule again, because it has to be.
But we've also been looking for a car for the Benjamin over there.
So as you would have heard on the last podcast, Ben has sold his S2000.
His dream car, the one he said he'd never sell.
He loved it.
He loves it so much that he thought he'd go and make a bit of profit on it.
He didn't make profit on it.
I don't think that.
Ben, keep saving.
I spent 5,000 pounds on bushings.
I made a very small profit on it.
He made a Sprood.
It was a very small profit on it.
Ben is in limbo currently,
and we have a Nurburgring trip coming up, Trimp,
a trip coming up in early July.
And we're thinking of buying a temporary car for Ben to scoot around in at the Nurburgring.
And we've been looking at some options.
Obviously, TTs have propped up.
And again, this podcast is sponsored by the guys at CarVertical.
So we have been using it heavy on some of these TTs.
Because some of the TTs, we look at Mark I's and Mark II's.
They're an old Audi at this stage.
We've got some real sketchy stuff.
We've already been there with the RS6.
We've been there with the Golf R and the Golf GTD.
So it's rough.
We've done loads of reports.
And so many of them, you put a report in,
especially on an older, higher mileage Mark I TT.
And oh boy, have they got some assessments.
Yeah, they're tough.
So, and they're getting very cheap now,
but CarVertical is really sorting us out right now for that kind of thing.
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if you don't allow the checks or more, like we will be for Ben's TT.
Ben, is it, it's, you're focused on TT 3.2.
I would really quite like the RS6.
There has been an update on that.
As you were having your own TT, actually, Rory came in and we were,
we were, you know, Ben was gesticulating all over the place at us.
Pretty standard day.
And he quite enjoys a Mark II TT.
Okay.
For, for, for, for, because I believe this, right?
Now, people might not agree, but I believe this.
The Mark II TT, if you, if you get a really nice one
and it's, it's got some nice wheels on it, a little bit lower,
do you tell me that car is 10 years old?
I believe you.
Believe you.
You tell me that car's 15 to 20 years old.
I'd say, yeah, that's when that came out.
They're 20 years old now and they, they don't look 20 years old.
And I think that could be, they are quite fresh.
Especially the inside because they're very minimal and lovely.
Inside is really nice on them.
I, the only thing is I just struggle to see.
I've never seen ones done nicely that don't have the TTS or a TT RS kit.
Perhaps as the standard, a challenge for us then.
Hey, perhaps it is.
So we've been looking at all sorts.
We've been the video and a v6, which there's going to be, there's lots.
There's going to be Instagram influencers out there that will say
that is not the car to go for.
No, no, no.
It's got the heavy front end and the heavy four drives.
The one you want is the two-litre diesel convertible manual.
Exactly.
I, it's, it's, it's got that pure, the rev range.
It's the torque down low.
It's, it's the A to B cross country.
It's the one you want to be in.
So you're saying with Hilton honors, I can use points for a free night stay.
Anywhere.
Anywhere.
What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris?
Yeah, Hilton honors, baby.
Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad in Tulum.
Hilton honors, baby.
Oh, what about the five star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives?
Are you going to do this for all 9,000 properties?
When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay.
Hilton for the stay.
And 2010, you go for this one, wouldn't you?
You'd buy this for your wife.
The, also hold on.
Can I, Instagram influencers, let's stop with the sexism.
It's not the thinking man's choice.
It's the thinking man or woman's choice.
It's just that thinking choice.
It's the thinker's choice.
And because choice is the name of our pub.
That's quite good.
There is, there's also another reason, which is I want a manual.
Yes.
And finding a mark one manual is much harder.
Especially in the budget, we're probably going to have this than a mark two.
Now the mark two as well is the engine is slightly revised.
So you get a slightly different noise.
It's a bit more, a bit more raspy.
I want to know if this is actually, if you keep saying this, I don't know if there is a slight
difference, I think.
And it's to do with like, it's just a slightly different exhaust setup.
But what I want to know is if it's easily solvable.
Right.
And you can get that.
I have noticed that if you look at a mark two, they have a deeper
thrum, thrum, a growl perhaps, than a sort of smoother mark one.
But the engine somewhat similar.
I just want one very much.
Did we talk about my landlord?
No, we haven't mentioned that yet.
My very kind, sweet landlord lady is very kind and sweet and old.
Which is not about old.
But she, they care, they don't care too much about the cars that I bring home.
They live kind of not too far away from the place that we live.
And I bought the TVR and obviously I did some modifications to the exhaust.
And I was a bit like, are they going to, to like this?
I had a message.
It was a message from other things.
But at the end of it, it said, by the way, I think you have a new car on the block.
Love the deep throat growl.
Oh, what make is it?
Now, you know, you know, there are mistakes.
You can't, we make mistakes.
But I read that and I just stared.
I just stared.
That's it.
I said to my girlfriend, can you check that message and see that's what that says?
And she just started howling with laughter.
So, not to be mean to my landlord, but if anybody says,
it's got a real throaty growl.
I can't read that.
I can't read that anymore.
That's rough to just throw an extra word in there and was like, right,
see what it does with that one.
Just missed a Y.
Just a Y off the end of it.
Change the whole look of that message.
DP growling.
Right.
So that's,
that's ruin.
I am.
I'm going to say rule.
What my reasons?
I have a reason for rule.
I have a very good reason for rule.
And that's that I own a Lamborghini.
She's not going.
Okay.
But also because it now has an MOT.
I can't now has an MOT.
I haven't seen it since MOT.
It's with the guys at SPR.
They're sorting many things.
There should be a reason to ruin because I got a message from Stuart at SPR.
I said, all good mate.
Car is MOT.
Also the engine light you had is related to the crankshaft position sensor,
which is you won't have seen it in the videos,
but it's something I looked at behind the scenes.
Crankshaft sensor on a Mercedes-Benz goes about 450 pounds.
What's that?
And I mean any other car, 10 quid?
Maybe maybe 50 pounds.
Yeah.
And obviously it's in the middle of the engine in the gearbox.
So and on the way they're laid out is that's bang in the middle of the car
right where you can't get to.
And he said they normally can get quite seized and nasty in there.
So we'll see how that goes.
That could be quite the bill.
But I knew that car would need a little bit of money spending on it.
But hopefully in the next week or so that car is ready to go.
Basically I have the Megane.
John at Cormoran is making progress.
That car is now tuned.
It has a new clutch, flywheel, has a timing belt, a couple of the bits.
And then once I get it back, we have a cage, seats, other bits to do.
I'm very excited to see that car again.
It's going to be very cool.
Really, strictly the bill for the Mercedes-Benz should be a ruin.
Not possible.
When I saw that little green DVLA thing and it just said pass and the car is now
taxed, it's insured, it's ready to go.
I'm very, very happy.
Yeah, nice, nice for some.
And no advisories either.
Crazy.
Crazy.
Do you know what?
We would hope not.
We were talking about this off camera that it makes sense that supercars like that
that are so like, anally checked over by workshops would have no advisories.
But in theory, you'd look at it and go, sure, you have some advisories.
Surely there's going to be a couple.
But if it's getting checked over for three weeks worth, yeah, you'd hope there were none.
I don't think my cars ever had a fail and you'll find that on lots of supercars where
they're just going to go to someone who I don't even know who's ever seen it.
It's I have no idea.
And I think it is just because the car doesn't need a friendly one.
If you like, yeah, it's all kind of legit.
Well, because they would typically have like, I have this one, they have the car there,
they check it over, right?
And then if there is an issue, then they fix it before the MOT doesn't make any sense to
but typically lots of cars like that will have a fruity exhaust of some variety.
So you can imagine that you could imagine this and there's some stuff going on.
There's some MOT testers with hearing problems, perhaps.
Yeah, you go and sight sounds fine to me and sights.
All right.
And smell problems.
Rich isn't it?
I'm very rich.
Running very rich.
In fact, I am.
So we move on to things.
What about stuff?
Oh, and stuff.
We've got plenty of stuff.
Good.
We've got plenty of stuff.
There's some news to talk about.
We have Ben, you've put in here a Taycan eShift.
This is electric, so we'll get it out of the way.
Yeah, they've added the Taycan for next year.
Added eShift to it, which is the fake shifting paddle thing where it emulates a gearbox.
So is this like what they want?
Because Audi for a long time had CVT and they put paddles in it so that you could shift.
And it did.
And it felt like you were shifting gears.
I think that is obviously still, is that still mechanical in a way?
It like limits the CVT, how it changes.
Whereas this is like, is it just audio?
Or is it?
No, I think you've, because it's in the Hyundai IONIQ 5N.
Apparently, everyone says it's quite fun.
Because it feels like, it's obviously not at shifting,
but it feels like in the motors like, jerky about and stuff.
All right, sign me up.
Let's get a couple in.
Sorry.
I'm going to push.
Okay.
Yeah, but I thought that was, you know,
Reach Around the System.
Yeah, I thought it was just a small thing,
but I thought that was somewhat interesting for them.
So out of interest, do you think still no one will buy it?
Yes, they've also, I've also read that they have now stopped doing the estate version of the US.
Really?
Yeah.
And I guess that makes sense because not many,
that's not as big of a thing in America like wagons.
We're used to wagons.
It's a cool one.
It is, but to an American granted, like,
enthusiasts, Americans are going to go,
Oh, cool.
But most of them are going to go,
We don't need that.
I'll have an SUV.
Also, in America where so many people are driving so far,
I imagine it must be a hard sell.
Unless you're living in a city or something,
where you're not doing many miles.
But for us here, like, if you're driving 300 or 400 miles,
you're doing a massive trip.
You're only doing it every now and then,
whereas Americans are like, I'm just going to work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
300 miles.
It's really not that common, but it's way more common
to do that many miles in a day or in a couple of days
than it is to do that here.
Would my commute be considered like normal in America?
Yeah.
So I was speaking, when I was in America,
I spoke to a guy who said,
I have an hour and 50 commute every day, each way.
And he was like, that's great.
Yeah.
It wasn't like a, it was, yeah, that's how far I go.
Yeah.
I guess a lot of it is more highway stuff.
So they're actually doing way more miles,
but because most of it is straight line stuff.
Now, I think we said this before we came back from Monterey,
something we've never mentioned before,
a place we've never mentioned or been,
that Americans might be the worst drivers on earth.
I do believe this in my soul.
You have the ability to undertake legally.
No, that's your habit.
Which amendment is that?
You may undertake.
And yet you've just put around at like 35 on a motorway
that you're only allowed to do 55 up to 70 on.
They're absolutely shit.
Like they, if I hope,
I bet you there'll be lots of Americans listening that move to the UK.
We know from our friend Jake, when he first got here,
he was like, what the hell is going on on your motorways?
In the UK, there is a known thing,
the outside lane will be doing between 85 and 100 miles an hour.
That's, look, I'm not saying we're not doing that,
but that's what the motorway is doing.
So everyone knows to stay out of that way.
America, just seven lanes all doing 50, just side by side.
What are you doing?
Pick a lane and cruise.
Why are there speed limits so low?
I don't know.
Is that?
There's some where there's some states, I believe, of 55 in Macs somewhere.
It was a top gear thing, wasn't it?
There's, yeah, that's something like,
I don't know what they're called, the long roads.
I just don't get, I like,
it would be unlimited really.
I think I mean, I'm always comparatively to Europe,
perhaps quite slow.
Well, they have some in Europe, they have some that are 80, right?
Yeah.
So cool.
So the 55 mile an hour national speed limit was repealed in 1995.
State maximums now generally range from 60 to 85.
85?
Yeah.
I bet 85 on a long, on a road where there's basically no one else,
I bet even 85 feels a bit like.
Yeah, because that's the thing.
Our roads, we have a very small road packed with three to four lanes at most.
They have five or six and they're hugely wide.
I was, you know, my Range Rover rental car,
of which I haven't yet still found about the bill,
that was doing 70 miles an hour everywhere.
It was doing that and it was doing it nicely.
Meanwhile, random back roads in the UK being 60 miles an hour.
The small lane down to the house.
Head on at each other, possibly a lorry, possibly a tractor,
possibly at night, heading at each other at 60 miles an hour with nowhere to pull in.
The wonders of the UK and then every other road goes to 20 miles an hour.
Guys, slow it down.
Don't be so stupid, everybody.
I mean, all the entire Wales being 20 miles an hour.
Is it?
All of their residential, well, it was the thing.
I don't know.
Might change it, but it was at one point,
20 miles an hour. I think all their residential was that.
I don't know how we got here from Americans.
We got, I don't know how we got there, but anyway, next piece of news from you again,
Christopher Columbus, be like, is it Welsh?
About the Yesco absolute.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Wow.
Yes.
So what's happening then?
Absolutely, guys.
The Yesco absolute has set the production car,
Cortama record.
What is it?
That's what Will just said.
Did you say that?
I just said you didn't.
I just said there's Yesco absolute news and I thought Ben would
say it and he instead went, yeah.
Hold my hands up.
Yes.
Yes.
That was people.
Yes.
So the Yesco.
So I think from what I'm saying, it's beaten the Cortama production record.
No way.
Of the, which recently found out was the Corvette ZR1X thing, which is a silly thing.
So that the ZR1X did, I just had this written down.
Hold on.
I saw a video of a man selling, he's a man that I get served a lot.
He's in America.
He has cars and he sells them expensive.
And he was selling a ZR1X, $140,000 over sticker.
And the guy goes, yeah, I'll take it.
Crazy.
140 grand.
ZR1X did it in 8.675 seconds.
Jesus.
The Yesco did it in 8.54.
Sorry.
So a second road car.
A track speed of 189.7.
So whatever it is, 99.
I know we talked about the ZR1.
Sorry.
Even the Corvette was 159.
It's 30 miles an hour quicker.
Sorry.
Say that number again.
The track speed?
189.
And then the Corvette was 150 miles an hour.
190 miles an hour.
Yeah.
Trap speed.
Yeah.
That's what is 8.
Shit.
Or a trap speed.
Trap speed.
It's sort of like the, you know, the speed at which you sell drugs.
But is that when it hits the finish line?
That's when you hit the Cortama.
Yeah.
That is your trap speed.
Now, I wanted to check this because usually a car that runs quicker than nine seconds
quarter mile, you need, and it traps over 150, NHRA needs a certified roll cage in there.
So both of those cars had to have roll cages put in because they're doing more than less than a
nine second quarter mile.
If they're competing here, do they need parachutes?
Potentially, yeah.
They might, they, I don't know.
They're quite close to the ground.
Some of the eight second, like 140 is that they have parachutes.
Really?
Yeah.
Does it say anything about tires?
I'm assuming it doesn't.
And 140 I.
There are some very fast 140 is that are in the eights and their roads cut.
Well, oh, is that when their road is?
Is that when the elbows get extended?
Is that what happens?
Yeah, you have to.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But these are the safety thing, but you're talking like an 1800 horsepower car and that's just a road car.
Standard Michelin factory street tires.
It doesn't say what ones.
What?
Jesus.
It is getting a little bit silly.
They're primacies.
Yeah.
They're just an all soon.
It's a Toledo that I just put on the 36.
That is, I can't believe the, so it's making up all of its time in the fact that the trap
speed is insane.
So I'm assuming something like the ZL1 is much quicker off the line.
Yeah, it is.
So it's 2.3 to 62.
And the ZL1 was like a 1.6.
It was a 1.68.
So then after that, it's just, it's just Mack.
It goes, oh, Mack bastard.
Oh, we go anyway.
Yeah.
Might as well 190 then.
Oh, sorry.
For motorsport UK slash Santa pod, which is our big drag strip, a parachute would be
required once, once any car exceeds 149 mile an hour terminal speed over the quarter mile.
So you'd have to get a parachute on the back of the yes go.
Do you think they drilled the roll cage into the yes go?
That's not a bolt in.
There's just some dude going.
I wonder if there's something about cars like that where there was a thing about the P1 GTR.
And I don't think the P1 GTR ever competed as far as I'm aware.
But where the actual carbon tub was far stronger structurally and safety wise,
than a roll cage.
So it never needed one crazy one.
There was a photo.
Let me see if it has a roll cage, but it might be that if they're there,
there'll be a carbon tile.
I'm assuming so they might say, yo, don't worry about it.
We got that.
We're on that modern stuff, but did they space age got roll cage?
It does.
Oh, does it?
So was it done?
Was it done on their runway?
Or did they do it in America?
They did it in America.
I think it was.
It was on a standard runway angle home.
Then I think that's there on a runway.
Yeah.
Because that's the thing.
I think the ZR1 was a was a drag strip.
I think a prepped, I don't know whether it was prepped or not,
but usually a prepped drag strips usually are prepped in that they have a very sticky surface.
It would make sense why the 06 was so quick then.
Yeah.
It was a prep surface.
So let's let's get that.
Let's get that cut the absolute on that is where they are based.
That's where they have that long runway.
Okay.
So if you need someone to test it on a prep surface, just last time.
Please do.
You know, we'll take them out to America.
We'll take them out.
We'll we'll we'll we'll bella up Santa pod.
In fact, we're going to Santa pod in a couple of weeks.
Yeah.
We're filming.
So let us know if you guys bring the parachute and the car will do the rest.
Chris and Von Koneinzegg also said like, so obviously they hit that record.
He was really happy and he went, yeah, that's good.
The Gameron might do it quicker though.
So we'll just have to wait and see.
Well, you can ask him at the quail, can't you?
Of course.
You can.
Yeah.
We can't just relay the information.
What's the one where it's possible?
Well, you have to let us know on the podcast after.
Well, and you'll have to dress me though for the occasion.
Really hope people missed the last podcast.
I was just wondering what's going on.
Right. What we got next?
Edwin, you've put in here Francis Boswa.
He really on that shit.
Now, I saw a video the other day, you may have seen that Francis Boswa bought an old Merc SL.
Yeah.
Just a normal R129 Mercedes SL.
I thought, okay, it's feeling a little bit London influencer.
It's feeling, this is really the thinking man's.
So which one was it?
Which one?
That what level of SL was it?
I think it was a 300.
I'm not sure.
So it's the thinking man's one that 500 would be.
Well, it'd be the, actually be the 73 would be the biggest one.
73.
Yeah. They made SL 73's, 72's, 70's, SL 60's.
But the thinking man's one will be a 300.
It would be because it was, you know, the highest MBG it would get you around.
He has put, he then put up a reel recently.
I got served.
He put it slammed it on Carlson wheels.
Okay.
And swapped in an OM606 diesel with a diesel pump UK,
big mechanical fuel pump making 550 horsepower.
And I think 580 pound for a torque.
And like a catastrophic turbo on it.
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Now, I wasn't familiar with your game.
We've heard on multiple occasions from people who work in the car media industry
that he is, he's into that.
Now, obviously he had the jazz and he got that K20 swapped.
But that's, I'm not, I'm not trying to gatekeep,
but that's quite an entry level thing.
Like lots of people will know about a K20 and the fact that you can put it in a jazz
and that you can build that sort of thing.
But to go and buy an R129SL and then stick an OM606 in it,
that's not someone going, oh, by the way, you should do this.
And that's, I like the idea of this.
Let's build something cool.
Is the video him running it on the, or they run it on a D on a engine dyno?
Yeah.
Cool.
It's like really cool.
Yeah.
So, you know what, Francis, please feel free to,
even if you want to promo the Grand Tour, we'll talk about it.
If you want us to check over that car as well, just let us know.
Yeah.
We've got no space on the left right now.
Absolutely not.
So we'll put you on the quick jack.
We actually have no lifts.
And no quick jacks, because the E36 has got no brakes, so we'll do it on jack stands outside then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll come to yours.
How do we have two units and not a single left?
It's, it's the, it's the law of garage space.
Once you acquire garage space, you will fill that garage space.
I'm quickly hoping that we just blow up that E55 on that lift, because it's been seven months.
Someone steals it.
Yeah, just take it.
Someone steals it.
How, how have you stolen that?
You'll have to do a rust repair and whack a subframe back in it, but take it.
But either way, crazy stuff from Francis Borgia, are very cool to see.
Another piece of noose that I only found out about just today.
So this is from our boy, Hex Grafica, who sends me things very, very regularly.
And again, I'll apologize for sometimes not responding.
But I just take your news and then talk about it on the podcast.
He's your, he's your informant.
There is a company called Cape Advanced Vehicles.
Now I know nothing about this company.
I've never heard of this company before, ever in my whole life.
And they've come out with this thing.
That looks like a Ford GT40, but it is based on an R8.
And I'm not sure I've seen anything that looks quite as horrific as it before in my life.
It's just called a GT Mark II breaststone mod.
So it's meant to be a breaststone mod, but it's based on an R8.
There is a rear quarter angle of it that looks so dire.
It's unbelievable.
Oh no, right.
I'm going to pull this up.
Ben, this is your live reaction.
Now I've just seen, yeah, now I've seen, I've seen something.
Now could you describe that please for, for audio viewers?
Why don't you say, Cav on the back?
Well, it's Jack Kavana, isn't it?
He builds it.
Oh, he does that.
He does a little skipper, then jumps in the car and does 24 hours of Le Mans.
Cape Advanced Vehicles, Ben.
Why do you think it's Cav?
Yeah, I mean, I did say early doors.
Oh, uh, engage that brain.
Let's put the gear in.
Why does it have the same wheels as, you know, the ones that when you put on your E36 earlier,
the one we put on the Jag, the Slicks.
Yes, it does.
Yeah, it has cheap looking wheels.
So, and what R8 do you think it's based on?
Is it a Gen 1 V8?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I guess V8 makes more sense for G40.
So this is, so this is South African, then I'm seeing that the number plate is a South African
number plate, which I believe that makes sense with Cape.
That would also make sense.
There we go.
It's all, we're putting this together as we get it.
Imagine those dots just lines between those dots.
So it is a 4.2 litre, twin supercharged V8.
And it's all drive, which famously the GT40 was, right?
Yep.
And it's got all the sort of, you know, normal, oh, hang on.
Yeah, it's still got all those electronics and stuff.
So it's kind of,
Now the thing, it does make sense.
So usually a GT40, when you imagine it, he has the lights are kind of, it's a big light.
But then the Mark II does have dual lights that go down.
So they do make sense.
But the lights on the back of this one are, imagine like a Ferrari 488 light or just a
Ferrari quad light, but they've been turned 90 degrees.
So they look, it just looks very odd, but it doesn't have the, it doesn't have, it's not
low and look how much, how much height is between the bottom of that skirt and the floor
and how low the car is.
And it looks super, the GT40, it's in the name.
It's super low and super sleek and really low to the ground.
And it's got huge rear tires that look insane, whereas that has none of those things.
From the rear, it's got a real drawing a GMAT 50 from memory.
It's a bit, it's just something a little bit drunk.
Why is the gearbox painted in red?
And then there you go.
There's the, there's the front of it, which is what?
No, okay.
The doors, right?
Now those doors look a lot like and obviously R8 doors will open out normally.
Yeah.
And people have fitted Gallardo, sorry, like a Lambo style doors to Gallardo's two R8s before,
and they tend to come up and out like that because of clearance reasons.
If that's what that is.
So for all the listeners, this one has Ben, tell me the name.
Those are scissor doors.
Scissor doors.
They go outwards as well as upwards.
Yes.
Which will, will get.
Is that dihedral?
I can't remember.
Dihedral is.
I thought dihedral was like McLaren when it sort of tilt upwards.
The thing about that, that, well, you get very upset with this, don't you,
when they don't go straight up scissor doors?
That's why I don't like a ventor door doors.
Yeah.
They got to go straight up like a Contacher or a Diablo or something like that.
Yeah. That is, that's.
Also, it makes a GT40 doesn't have that.
I get it. Maybe they're trying to set to do some kind of effect
because the GT40 had that very famous thing where it cuts into the roof.
But that's not what's bad.
Also, I saw a who, I can't remember who this was.
This, it might have even been a good take from, from a Doug DeMiro.
It could be, it was a little Jason Commissar.
Rare find.
Someone said that they, that the point of like a singerized car,
a rest-o-modic car is not to reinvent the car with new parts.
It's to make the old car just a bit, still look like the old car,
but improved the technology.
That's what I think all of these keep missing.
No one wants a new looking GT40.
Just make a GT40 that looks old and then puts new bits on it.
But it starts every time and it,
and things work better than they did in the 60s.
Like having huge big wheels on it, having, it doesn't,
it doesn't look or feel right.
Make a replica.
Like they're clearly very good at doing.
They've got, they've got, I can see on their site,
original looking replicas that look amazing,
but make a modernized one that has seats that are nice.
Maybe it's a thing where some rich dude has said they want that,
but it, like as a bit of a,
No one else has this, but it doesn't look good to me.
We're not the target audience. We understand.
Always.
But I still think it looks like ass.
Some other new car things that we only just seen today.
A6 all road.
Hell yeah.
I just saw the article on it literally this morning.
And so there is a new A6 all road.
So the new generation of Audi A6,
they have an electric version and as,
and a combustion engine version that have different front ends.
This all road is based on the one with an engine.
And my God, does it look good?
Now, Ben was very quiet when we were talking about this earlier.
Ben, have you seen this yet?
I wasn't listening earlier.
Okay. This makes sense.
I have seen it.
You've seen that car.
So here's the photo and what are your thoughts?
Um, I don't love this generation of A6, but I mean,
Really?
It's, it's,
I think the electric one that was considerably worse
because it's got those Citroen Picasso front lines.
It does.
But the main thing with this,
the rear of the new A6 all road,
if you haven't gone and seen it and you're a,
you're an audio listener.
Oh my God, the chunk on this thing.
It's got some, some width at the rear.
I think it's got hips.
She really, he really does.
It really does.
Look, I've been, I've been banging the drum of A6 all road for a long time.
This is good.
Oh, because you could lower them and it would have good.
I do this too.
Do that too.
But that's what I mean though.
But to clarify, it's not because it's off road.
You want to do the opposite of that.
I like, I like the, when, I like them when they're built for off road as well.
There's a guy back in the day that took an original road and put 1552 turbo max on it.
And it looked really good.
I always want one for that.
But yeah, I'm a, I'm a second generation.
No, so I'm a C7.
I'm a third generation all road man.
But that is one of my favorite new cars that I've seen.
And I think they have two liter turbo petrol and a three liter turbo diesel v6.
Hey, gang, maybe not all is lost.
Maybe they're in new cars that can be cool.
I will say it is an exceptionally aggressive looking car for what is actually a standard A6
realistically.
The all road always traditionally had was a tiny bit wider,
but it wasn't that much more mental than an A6.
That looks like a jacked up RS6 now.
Do you know what it feels like?
It feels like a 911 Dakar where it feels like this one off special edition.
It feels like an off road RS6 that they've made,
but I'd love to see someone now swapping the four liter twin turbo into that.
Yeah.
As a, as a, like a thing that you go and get,
drop your A6 off all road off for someone.
They swap it out as a service like those M3s wagons that we're seeing.
That'll be cool.
Well, this is cool.
I really like that.
Right.
Well, fair play Audi.
Good stuff.
Keep it up guys.
And then onto other wagon news is the sort of new Alpina type vibe, the boven seep.
It's the boven seep.
They came out with a thing called the O5 GT, not O5, not O4 rich or anything like that.
This is the O5 GT, which is essentially sort of an M5 touring with some ridiculous,
but I think it's about 770 horsepower, something insane like that.
But it's very cool.
Yeah.
Now, I haven't actually read that much into it, but is the base, the body base,
just a normal M5?
Because somehow they have made it look less angry.
If that makes sense.
It no longer looks as, as I don't need yet just aggressive as the M5.
The new M5 and almost especially the touring look, they're fat.
Yeah.
They have that RS6 fat.
They have that we've just adding width.
Because that you can see, we've got photo up here.
It still does have width in the front and rear arches, but it looks more, it looks somehow.
It does look Alpina like it.
I know that's their whole, that's their thing.
It's their business still, but they've managed to do it again without even having any of the
identifiable Alpina parts.
Yeah.
M5 underneath.
I'm sorry.
I've got the power figure wrong.
It's 790 horsepower.
Of course.
Apologies.
Apologies.
I don't like that.
You don't like it?
In the track shot you're showing, I do, but then in the studio shot, I really don't.
Why?
What is it that's throwing off then?
Well, from here, it looks like a Skoda in that shot.
But that's going to be the same as all M5.
But the new M5, I wouldn't have one, but I do think whenever I've seen one, they look big.
Oh, so you think it needs that?
Yeah.
I think I think it's that good of a design.
I think that thickness to it, if you will.
There was something about the rear.
It makes it that.
Yeah.
This was my favorite.
So the rear, I like it the most.
The rear, I think, looks a bit neater and a bit tidier than a...
That's F11.
M5.
It does look like an F11.
F11.
Yeah.
Whereas because the M5 is so...
I don't know what, there's something...
I need to see them side by side in person, but there's...
The M5 has lots of features get lost because they've just added lots of width.
I still like the M5.
I think they look cool.
But the thing is, this is still...
It's got more power and it's tiny bit lighter.
I have seen, I've worked it out.
It's the M5 has the weird moustache thing at the rear.
The little up and down flick that has on the bumper.
I don't...
I was actually about to say that.
So they've managed...
They've basically grafted in like a 520D SE bumper into the rear and it makes it look much better.
So I still prefer the normal rear end, but I would get rid of that.
Whenever I see that weird, bulge looking thing.
Something.
And the M5?
Yeah, the M5.
No, the middle of the diffuser.
If you just made that match the rest of the diffuser, it would look pretty cool.
They've also brought out a carbon full carbon-bodied M4, I think, which is there.
That's their launch thing, the one that we talked about a little while ago.
But the O5, was it?
O5 GT.
Because they say that.
O5 GT.
The badge they've got on the back, obviously, they used to be a D5 or a B5.
It looks suspiciously similar.
I looked at the O and I went, does it say D5?
No, it's O5.
It's the 8-5.
They know what they're doing.
But yeah, very cool.
So that's two cool estates.
Also, considering that estates were looking a bit dead in the water, like Mercedes,
I think, have stopped doing them, two cool estates.
People would just get out there and buy them.
We're not going to do it because we can't.
But if you could all do it, that'd be amazing.
So away from some news is for a while, because that might be it, but we'll see.
A question, which we've discussed out of the podcast ourselves,
but we're going to throw it out to the Kremers as well.
What car were you taken home in as a new human being, as a baby?
Benjamin.
We had a small discussion about this and yours is quietly very cool.
I meshed my dad, because I didn't know.
And I asked the question and he said a W210e-class.
Which is not bad.
Which is an E300.
I didn't know there was an E300.
Avant-Garde.
Which is a petrol or diesel?
Diesel, apparently.
And E300 diesel usually means it's an Ohm 606.
So your dad was on that.
It might be it.
It might be not.
And my dad was early 2000s businessman.
Now tell me this.
Ohm 606 meant to be famously reliable, right?
Yeah.
He said it was one of the least reliable cars he's ever had.
Yeah, interesting.
It might not be.
I think there might be some different variations of 300.
But if I have that era of Merck is quite.
Yeah.
Even to this day, he says, I know he actually has a prejudice against Merck now,
because he believes that they're crap because of that.
Was it engine relight or does he not know?
It was a mixture of everything.
Mostly engine.
Because it'd be like breaking down level.
Like he used to work in like Maidenhead way.
Did he buy it brand new?
Yeah.
Also, why don't you just talk to your dad about working in Maidenhead 30 years ago.
Now I can try something to you.
I don't even know if it was Maidenhead.
It was somewhere down this direction.
Or Goodcatch, very nice.
I don't know.
I genuinely.
And he used to be coming back on the M4 on Friday night.
And no matter the times that he would, he would just be delayed
because his car was having issues was quite a lot.
And this is like a well maintained, basically, it would have been probably,
what, the time for two years old?
Yeah, he should have done.
He should have taken it to Francis Bourgeois and he would have put a big single turd,
a big old turbo.
He would have taken the OEM 606 out and put an SL300 engine in it.
Because he had one spare, of course.
So, you know.
The thinker.
We've all sorted it out in the end.
I mean, the other thing was, he said it was that I was bought back,
but then the thing I was driven around on top of that was a...
On top.
You had two cars on top of each other,
but they put you on top of the car.
No, but it was the two car garage was that and a Renault Spass.
Clean!
Which was also famously unreliable.
Okay.
And the Spass of...
Okay.
Yeah.
It could have been a scenic.
Oh, no, that changes things.
Because the Spass was off.
Let me look it up.
So, when we find out it was an Aventime.
It had two doors.
It was in a Velsatis.
Super rare.
He said...
Dude, I don't have a convertible room.
You get it from the BBC.
Apparently in a Spass.
Crazy.
Do you know if it was a generation one or a generation two of Spass?
Remember, Robin from Viking Detail will be listening to this.
So, you need to be...
You need to make sure this is correct.
Because that's his thing.
Let me look at the finding outs.
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
In the meantime, Will?
I was...
So, this discussion came from my dad and my dad asked.
He asked me, which was interesting.
What was it like?
Can you remember?
He had to predict...
Again, this is just car people stuff.
He was like, what was it?
And I was like, let me ask my mum.
She'll know for sure.
And then he was like, I reckon...
I'm pretty sure it was this.
It was a Volvo 340 GL.
Cool.
And I asked my mum without giving it any hint as to what it was.
She went, it was a Volvo 340.
It was my nan's car, I think, or something.
So, it was exactly what it is.
It's like an 80s Volvo.
So, not hugely exciting if I'm honest, but...
Nonetheless, that was the car.
But you said, what was the car that you used to...
When you grew up, you had many different...
There were many different...
There was a van at one point.
My mum had a van, transit van, like a stick it up.
And then she's for a tipper, that was.
It was...
That was a tipper.
A tipper is crazy.
I just get picked up from working a tipper.
For what?
Picked up from work?
I used to get picked up from work.
Of course.
Well, when your mum's got a tipper, you've got to get to work.
Five years old.
Right, we're going down a site.
Come on.
Yeah, no, going down.
Pay it.
Right, do you want to do bricks or do you want to go and be a chippy?
A chippy?
Yeah.
But I meant fishing chips.
That's the one, mate.
Yeah.
Ben, do you know what it is?
Blue collar Ben.
No, a chippy is a carpenter.
Correct.
But I thought...
I thought...
Well, if you're going to a chippy, I guess.
Yeah, if you're going...
Yeah.
Then that'll be great.
So, if I go out for dinner, I...
I'm going to bag a wood.
That'll be quite upset.
You get a 2x4.
I wouldn't be that crazy, Ben.
You've got to calm this down.
This is a family podcast, isn't it?
Yeah, there's many rough-looking cars from that.
Ben?
Yeah.
Ben's just told us.
It was a fourth generation.
So, when it...
Wow! Hold on.
Yeah.
Is that what I think that is?
Is that the full...
Not aluminium.
What are they?
I think they are full aluminium.
I don't know anything about spasses.
I need to...
I want to launch one.
There was one.
That was a 2 car garage from us, a child.
Do you mean, Ben, this thing,
which is, I think, a full aluminium?
That's the badger.
Bloody hell.
I've never known anyone to...
Like, I've never seen these.
They're really rare.
Because they're very blowy-uppy.
No.
That one was.
That one, that engine blew up.
It might blow up.
I have a weird enjoyment of the third gen spasses.
These ones here in the middle, for those listening,
it's a third-gen of spass.
The F1 car.
Because of the F1 car.
When I look at the...
When I used to see these on the road,
and especially they'd have this wing thing at the back.
Look, it's not a wing.
It's a roof rack.
Yeah, I know.
But it splits in half.
So, you can put it forward.
But when everyone would drive around with them at the back,
I'd be like, it's got wings.
It's cool.
Down for them.
That's very cool.
Also, the mirror design.
That and the Vectra.
Yeah.
It has to be said.
What was going on?
Early 2000s, everyone went,
make the wing mirrors cool.
Make them vented.
Like, this brick of an automobile needs aerodynamics.
Everyone saw the E36M3 and went, I have a go at that.
That's actually pretty nice.
I'm very lucky.
I have...
I went home in a Volvo 850R.
That is cool.
That's kind of mad.
And the oldest one we've heard so far.
So, I think I've told the story quickly before.
My dad had a Chimera 5-liter up until about two weeks before I was born.
And my mum went, just out of interest, what do you think we're going to do?
Do you think...
How do you think we're going to get hurt?
And he went, we're going to do a skid.
Because we're going to do it.
And he went, wee.
He was...
I'm getting you a taxi.
Yeah.
He was in Germany on a business trip.
And in the middle of the night,
got flashed to move over while doing a certain amount of speed.
And what came past was a Volvo wagon.
So, he walked into the Volvo dealership and said,
sorry, what was that?
Because before TV or a BMW search it.
And I said, my dad's just on Instagram.
He's a big man's Volvo.
And they said that was probably an 850R.
And he managed to do a swap for that, for a like an X demo, like a higher mileage one.
And then sold it two months after because he said he felt like an old man.
That colour was it?
I think he said it was black.
And I don't think it was a manual though.
I think it was an auto.
And it was the family man's.
It was the...
It was the 550R.
It's the family man's car.
The thinking family man.
The family thinker.
What else was on your driveway at the time?
I don't know that.
I know that at one point,
my dad has a lot of good car stories.
I think it was just before I was born.
He had a Jeep Cherokee and a Mark II...
Boxy one.
Yeah.
And a Mark II Golf GTI that was a little bit old at the time.
And he woke up one morning and the car was gone.
And the keys may or may not have been in the ignition.
Nice.
And then when the police came,
he said, I don't know.
Don't know how they got it.
Stole it.
Yeah.
Gone.
And they said, cool.
Do you have your keys?
And he went, yeah, I've got them.
They must have broken in.
Yeah.
And took the keys.
So I won't reveal the full story.
I don't want to implicate anyone.
But yeah, there was a lot of funny resolutions
about cars that came and went.
But I don't know what the other car was.
I'll have to ask him.
But put your cars in the comments.
Yeah.
Don't lie.
Oh, don't go.
Don't say I was a sharon.
I got taken out of there or something.
That's all.
That's all.
Car meet.
Cars and comments.
Cars and comments.
There it is.
And everyone's got to bring the car.
You're allowed to make really shitty comments
for everyone's cars.
Yeah.
It's the car you got to take home in.
Hey, listen, we'll be there.
Do they get?
So just join us.
But I'm very interested to see if anyone's got some cool.
Some, do you know what they are?
The cool cars that you get taken home in
as a newborn human.
Right.
There's a good crossover with that.
If you know, you know cars.
Yeah.
Where it's probably not going to be a super car
or a sports car or something.
Maybe like a 911 is possible.
Yeah.
Something like that.
But like a Mondeo V6.
Yeah.
And you go, oh, yeah.
That's not bad.
ST200 or something.
That's someone in the comments
better have gone home in an ST200.
ST24 or something.
Something just let us know.
And if you have, can you do that?
No, you can't.
Also, the fucking old man,
can you send photos on this platform?
No.
Also, the best thing.
Email us if you have a cool one.
And you send the proof.
You have proof.
Photo evidence.
And we might talk about it.
If you don't have photo evidence,
bother.
And do not send a press image of the car, please.
Yeah.
So it looks just like this one.
I'm not going to say older cremers,
but the cremers of age.
Like will.
Will.
Okay.
There you go.
Will have automatically cooler cars.
Because even if you went home in a Ford console,
or you went home in an Escort Mark II,
that's now cool.
Whereas back then that was just a car.
Yeah.
Like if you went back in a Mondeo V6,
back then it would be like,
just a car.
Oh, you said it was the Bugatti Atlantic.
It's been helped up and went for possible.
Bugatti.
Yeah.
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Edwin, you put in here.
550 prices.
It's tough.
I'm not happy about this.
What will mean is the...
Oh, 550.
There you go.
Why did you realize that?
So how on America would probably say it?
That's the 550.
Oh, man.
As we all know,
my side to the coin of Will's
Marshal Argo is the Ferrari 550.
If you ever get on with it.
Will, this might be the issue, Ben.
This might be the issue.
As many of you know, old Jezza,
he has not been responding to my text or calls.
And that was my...
Who's Jezza?
That's Jezza.
Not Jeremy Clarkson,
who I immediately thought when you said Jezza.
No.
Okay.
No.
But the Jeremy that we all know,
that everyone, the more famous Jeremy.
Jeremy.
Who's a man in France who owns supposedly a crash Ferrari
that won't reply to my emails.
The plan was to try and buy a crashed one
because I want to modify it.
The prices are going badly for me.
In the last two weeks,
there was, I sent it to you while I was away
on bring a trailer,
a Ferrari 550 Maranello sold in America,
for $440,000.
You know, that is a lot.
Now, what's special about this car?
Nothing.
Nothing.
It's red.
It's got lowish miles.
It's, I think it had 13...
It's a 13,000 mile car.
So for Ferrari,
not super, like it's low.
It's low.
But you'll find cars with 3, 4, 5,000 miles on it.
And it's gray.
And it's got red interior.
Oh, that's a relatively common spec, right?
There's nothing of...
It doesn't have anything mad or...
Nothing particularly interesting.
One of one seat.
Was it a charity auction?
No, just on bring a trailer.
On bring a trailer right now,
there's one ending, it ends in a day.
Current bid is $380,000.
This one has, hold on.
But why is that?
Why are they going up so suddenly?
US prices are...
Well, you don't know what it is.
They're not the smoking in the US at the moment,
but they're just throwing money at stuff.
Just chucking money.
Over time, it will gradually bring...
Now, other sort of countries up.
This car has 6,000 miles.
6,000 miles.
So half of the other one.
So in theory, it has to sell for more.
This has to be now a half a million dollar car.
Please, I need to...
I'm gonna...
This is gonna be...
This is rough.
So I...
This might...
Now, Jeremy's getting more messages.
He's getting more calls.
Shorter in the message.
Hi, Jeremy.
Jeremy, please.
What are we doing?
Please pick up.
Pick up the phone.
Where are you?
Yeah, I'm worried is what I am.
I want to ask you a question right now on this podcast.
Let's do it.
Have you considered not buying a crashed one?
Yes, now.
But hang on, let me just pitch it to you.
But because of this.
Okay.
Because William Chandler over here
owns a Lamborghini Merchandre Hugga.
Yes.
Now, he's very open about the fact
that he doesn't own it outright.
Yes.
You could now finance one.
And is it a case of...
Okay, you either never have one
or you have one that isn't a modified...
Modifiable one or modified one.
You can't do ITBs to it
and because you don't want to lose any value on it.
But you do then get to own one.
It's a good question.
It's not worth it to me then.
So then it's not to me.
I would argue it's not my dream car then.
Yes.
What?
Because for that will, for example, he would go...
He would stop at nothing to have the Merchalago.
Whereas for you, it's like it has to be one that has crashed.
No, no.
If I was a millionaire,
I'd go out and buy the nicest one I could find
and then modify it.
But I couldn't afford to put myself
in that financial situation
and then devalue the car that much.
Because then I'm on my aphors.
Because if something happens and I need to sell it,
I can't pay for it anymore.
But then why not just buy one and enjoy it as it is for a while?
Because I can't enjoy it as it is.
Because once I have an idea or a vision for a car,
it has to happen or I won't enjoy it.
So you're telling me on this podcast,
right? It's very second that there is a chance you may never own one.
Potentially.
And that you are okay with that.
And you've reached acceptance on this.
I'd rather not than put myself in that position financially
and then not be able to do the things I wanted to do to it.
Because then you're scared of the thing you own.
So that's never worth it ever.
So then what is the car then?
Well, we'll have to find out.
But what is the car?
You would like will.
There's no car.
There's no car where I wouldn't modify it.
Okay.
Lotus Coltons, one of the semi ones where I'd love to own a
Lotus Colton and I just don't think I'd do much to it.
Really?
And Delta?
Delta, no.
I'd want to do loads to it.
Really?
Delta is a fun.
I drove the one that I was in custodian ship of.
It was slowish.
It was pretty slow.
Like it wasn't that.
It's a more exciting car.
That needs to be made like 400 plus horsepower.
Okay.
So this is unfortunately my curse is that I like modified cars,
but I also like high end modified cars, which means I can't.
With a 575.
If a rough 575 that you could convert.
That's that.
I think it feels like an avenue.
That is, I think, what I've that's what I've been looking at recently.
But would you would you get into it every time and think,
oh, I wish this was a 550?
But if you're changing it enough from its base,
I would deface lift it.
I would make it look like a 550.
And you'd be okay with that.
Yes and no 550 is the car that I saw when I was a child.
It's the thing.
It is the object in this world I've wanted for the longest.
Put it like that.
Sure.
So I'd always be like, this is not that car.
But if it looks 99% of the way to it, hey, man, fine.
It's the biggest thing is the dashboard.
I prefer the 550 dashboard and you can't really convert a 575 to a 550.
And then you've got five parts that have.
Yeah.
But that even starting on a 575,
I don't know how available some of these bits are.
But as these cars get more expensive,
if you just want to get a bumper or a dash or whatever else to convert back,
you're then looking really hard.
And yeah, it's tough.
Would a 575 suffice?
I think potentially because there are like a Stuart from SBR has said,
I can manual swap it.
It's something it'll cost you, but it's something we can do.
So I just want to see that.
I want to see the Ferrari and Lamborghini together.
I want to see that.
That's TDC at peak.
But okay, but then what are you getting?
Where's the V12 advantage, Ben?
I can't afford one, if I'm being honest.
Well, you can.
You've got most of the money for the deposit in your ST1000 fund.
I think we could get that going.
Let's get some financial mistakes going, guys.
How about we get some finance companies and comments?
I need someone to sit alongside me.
I can't.
If I'm going too far into it, I can't afford to run it.
That's the issue.
But that's, I think you have to figure it out.
It's still a V12 in a day.
If I need to buy some coil packs, all right, I call the 50 quid coil pack,
but then also they are 12 of them.
I need injectors.
I don't even want to think about it.
Ben, I'd like to turn this back around on you.
Turn the gun back on yourself.
Sure.
And then can you pull the trigger, if possible?
Yes, because I don't think you want it that much then.
Oh.
I don't have the same level of diagnosis as you do.
Dugnosis.
That's the...
Shoes, bling, smooth.
That's when Doug Demiro gives us any kind of diagnosis.
Yeah.
Is that when you worry about those things, you're thinking too far into it.
Yeah.
It's worth thinking about and most people will think like that.
That's why most people will never buy those cars.
I know.
So, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I could be most people in this situation.
Well, okay, but that's what I'm trying to get to.
Is that when you start looking and trust me, I do it all the time with the Mercedes-Benz
I'm thinking, oh my God, if that goes wrong, then but will it?
Like the likelihood of it going wrong is less.
And ideally, you should be able to afford the car 234 times over.
So that you can repair whatever.
But unfortunately, life ain't that long, brother.
Yeah.
You could be waiting a long time before you can actually get to that point.
So you've got to kind of do it and figure it out.
Do it and apologize later.
Oh, wow.
Where's that from?
That's from the company that Ben and I used to work for,
Sushupid Bloody.
Oh, we'll work there too.
Plastic across the wall, it was.
Yeah.
Massive.
Always say nine feet.
Yeah.
If it was bigger.
Well, do it, apologize and then never do that again.
And then if you did it and apologize later at that company,
they'd be very upset.
So for me, I don't know what to do.
Is it V12?
But V12 is not necessarily your absolute.
I think event store now is my boy.
So therefore, I think I said this before, the V12 Antige,
just I could not own one.
Okay.
But I could have a, I would like a Vantage.
So I might, could go for a V8.
But could you not own an event at all?
Could you live with that on your, on your deathbed?
The different, well, I would, it's when this way,
if I came into money suddenly.
Yeah.
You'd have to clean it up first.
You saw me going and you ruined it.
How about this, Ben?
I would, I would, anyway, let me make my fish myself.
I know, I know.
I'm just going to just to tee up the question on your deathbed
from your tropical disease that you,
that we talked about in the preamble.
Cut.
And now, Ben, what do you, what sort of disease do you think
will be most likely to get catch?
Well, actually, most likely.
Yeah.
You want my honest opinion.
Heart disease.
Yeah.
Really?
You'd have a tropical disease.
I think I would have.
Because you'd be on so, because you go on so many holidays.
You're getting malaria.
Far cry too style.
Would you, could you live with not owning an event at all?
Okay.
Right.
If I suddenly came into a lot of money,
I would never, never, never, never.
One of the first thing I would do is buy an event at all.
Like one of the first things I'd do.
Would not hold on, on.
One of, explain.
I buy those couple of things a day.
What?
At Olympic size.
It's not, it's a car podcast.
I would, I would talk about it.
No, you should.
I'll buy some watches, man.
Okay.
100%.
That's the first thing I'd do.
And now I go buy some cars.
Or, and you'd wear them all at the same time?
No, no.
I just wear them one at a time.
But I have a couple at a time.
Yeah, I probably rotate.
Surely you'd buy the car first to go and get the watches.
Oh yeah.
Then you might, then you might get the watches.
No, because why they don't take me seriously.
You can't.
You can't buy the car from the one watch.
It's that classic adage.
You can't drive to watch a car, but you can car to watch a drive.
That made a new sense.
You can't live in a watch.
That's the one.
But you can drive a house.
But you can race a car.
A pocket watch.
Anyway, I would, I would buy, I'd do that.
But the one of the first things I'd buy is an event store.
However, I also am accepting that I may not be able to afford an event store.
Where would you need to be?
Probably the world.
I don't know, maybe in Reading?
Sort of.
To come to a Hollywood.
I'll tell you what, it's a good job for you today.
What?
I don't want to go into finances as such, but like, how?
So much of an account.
But more like, how?
How well off would you need to be in order to go?
Right. I think I can do this now.
How many more billions?
I would probably.
It's a hard question to answer.
In terms of like, let's say.
Okay, put this way.
I would be in a, in a, I'd be in a more affording in quotations for an event store
before I did it, then say you are right now for the merch logo.
If that makes sense.
I would probably need to be closer.
I need to be close.
I suppose, yeah.
You wouldn't, you wouldn't put yourself in like, danger zone.
Yeah.
Because yeah, I wouldn't do, I wouldn't do danger zone, but I would go,
I got to rescue with it.
You know, I'm a big risk taker.
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think that's true.
Bend the risk.
I think Ben would get that.
Ben would go, of course I'm not going to buy it now.
Ben would look at a trillion pounds in his bank account before.
Can I really spare a 100000
Do you reckon you could get my lunch today?
I mean, what if I lose it all though?
Well, actually, we're always meant to get my lunch today because we lost a bet.
Yeah, it is.
But he didn't say.
Nothing of interest though.
So in a few years, hopefully.
I don't know, man.
We just need to make Ben a million there.
Guys, how do we make Ben a million there?
Guys, everyone watching right now sent me a thousand pounds.
All right.
A thousand pounds.
So a little ask.
No, I will, I will work out a way of getting one.
Okay.
And we'll support you.
And we'll be there and we'll fix it for you.
I don't know if I want that.
I don't know if I want that.
What?
You don't trust us?
Will this work?
This one plugs on a mess.
Hello, everybody.
Here, here, here.
Yeah.
Now, this is another thing to think about though.
Yes.
When you're thinking about this dream car thing is how old do you, what will you care about in terms of age?
So let's say you wait till you're, I don't know, let's say 50 and you're what now, 15.
Yeah.
So I'm 24 currently.
So that would be 26 years.
So let's go to another year, 25, 26 years.
And that car will be kind of old at that point.
Yeah.
It will be older than I am.
It will be older than I have my muscle.
I go now.
It will be what?
I'm almost 24 years old.
Would it be equivalent of a Contash now or a Diablo?
Diablo, Contash, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
So 40-ish years old.
But do you think that would bother you then by that point?
By that point, there could be something else I want.
That's true.
Hold on.
Like what?
What if the Rivalto suddenly takes my heart?
So you need to let go.
It won't.
So you need to let the dream fester a little longer to see if it's real.
You're too young in the game.
I would need to have it before then.
Will you know, will this all be told when you drive one?
Do you think that's what sealed the deal?
Yes.
Because what was the Mercielago drive to your...
We are a bit different.
We have that stuff.
Like you're a bit different.
Yeah, exactly.
There's diagnosis.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
A diagnosis.
We were already aware of the fact that had to happen each.
But what did the drive do?
The drive like...
I need to speed this up now.
The drive was a confirmation of...
Okay.
No, I have to go.
Because I know I've heard of people who've...
There was the old Top Gear thing where on the...
I think it was the 40th anniversary of Lamborghini,
where James May drove the Countach and he's like,
I've never driven a Countach.
And Bear in mind, this is a car journalist.
Had driven many, many cars.
He's like, I've never driven a Countach.
I've always wanted to do it.
He drives it.
He's like, I hated it.
Didn't like it.
It was kind of disappointing.
It was a bit messed.
So I was a bit...
I was thinking, is it going to be like that?
So any supercar I've driven has normally been a bit more modern than that.
And they're kind of just good at everything.
Yeah.
I thought, am I going to hate this?
And it was like the moment I sat in it.
It felt right.
That's it.
Yeah.
That is absolutely everything I'd imagined it would be.
I'm just watching it in a YouTube video.
The way it looks when you're near it,
when you're sitting it, the way it sounds, everything.
I was like, I have to make that happen.
Yeah.
And yeah.
In a way, it's probably...
Might be better if I got in it and gone, this is whack.
Yeah.
Don't need whack.
Don't need to do this.
Do you know what? I just got to stick to a Clare 182.
It's great.
But yeah, that was...
It is worth driving something like that.
So maybe you might feel that.
You might not feel that.
Because that was same for the Tuscan for me.
Tuscan was something I always loved.
And I wasn't expecting it.
When we drove that one, I was like, that's it.
That's perfect.
I need to own this.
The 550 was...
This is really good.
But I can see where I can make this mine and make it perfect for me.
I feel like knowing you and your reaction to it,
your reaction to the Tuscan was way more intense than the 550.
You was.
I can tell you liked it.
But the Tuscan, remember you saying for more weeks afterwards,
how much you liked it, how much you thought about it.
But that's what I mean.
But whereas I know, for me, the bigger thing is turning the 550 into the car,
but I know it could be.
And making it that.
And then going, now look.
Now look how good this is.
May I ask you a question?
Sure, man.
It's a deep question.
Yeah, whatever you want.
Why?
Like, what is it about on a Vintage Door?
It just looks really cool.
And I'm putting you on the spot.
Just looks really cool, man.
But is it like, well, is there anything specific about that?
Or is it just kind of the way it looks?
Well, I became interested in cars around the time the Vintage Door came out.
So I would have only been about 10, but I knew nothing.
I wasn't like you guys who knew from the day you were born about cars.
I didn't really know anything.
I still probably don't.
We'll come out when.
So GLT 340.
Do you know what it was?
I played Need for Speed Most 1 to the 2012 one.
And I saw it in that.
I was like, what is this thing?
And then watching car YouTube was mainly how I got the information.
And that was always a white event store.
I don't know why I'm always pictured being white.
And that was always, yeah, that was always the guy.
With black wheels?
Well, I wouldn't have one black wheels.
No, that's one that you picture.
Yeah, yeah, with the original, like thicker spoke ones, not the rose ones.
And yeah.
And then now when I write about other cars, I can...
It's the only car I look at.
I still go, every time I see one in person, I'm like, that is...
Well, that's the nuts nuts.
Might be a novel idea.
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I think it might be the Lamborghini that you grew up with.
I did grow up.
And I think it did grow up.
It works in this situation.
Yeah, it's good.
And yeah, hearing one.
And even now it shows.
Sounds, I don't know how it sounds, but we are almost a little bit desensitized as supercar stuff.
Here we are, yeah.
But not in like an arrogant way, just because we spent so much time filming them and walking around
and looking at them. It's still amazing to see.
But when I see a GT3 RS, I'm like, that's really, really cool.
But I have now seen a thousand of them in person.
But you always feel so.
For a Ventser, I'm still going to always stop and go, yo, look at that thing sitting there.
That thing.
Yeah.
But does a Huracan do anything for you?
No.
Nothing.
At all.
No, that's not what I'm talking about.
It's not something where you think I could own that for a while and see if it's cool.
That's just a rental car to me.
It's a big billionaire Ben.
No, I mean, that's all he pictures.
I'm going to these out.
We're going to.
You know, Ben's good at keeping the mask on for most of the podcast,
but then every now and then he lets the billionaire slide out.
I meant like, oh, you mean an airport car?
Oh, you mean like going to shops?
Yeah.
You mean, Lava Gini Huracan or similar?
No, I picture that as Instagram rental car.
Yeah.
It's a reflex type of thing.
Whereas when it's all to me, it's just the boy.
Isn't it really?
Yeah.
It might be simple, but it is because it's quite noisy.
It's quite, there's nothing else that does that.
Like the equivalent Ferrari doesn't look like that.
No.
If you know what I mean.
Like in F12 is if you were more grown up, you'd look at an F12 and go,
no, that doesn't make a lot more sense.
A grand tourer.
It's probably more comfortable.
It's probably equally as fast, but an event still looks like that.
It still looks mental as well.
Like even the, I can't really describe it.
The Rivalto is probably technically more mental where it's designed,
but it doesn't look more mental.
No.
I still look at that and go, what is this thing?
Yeah.
Fair.
Here we go.
We'll see how it goes.
And you're saying, I think you have said this before.
I think I pushed you on it by 40, you're saying?
Yeah.
By 40.
By 40.
So you got, I said, that's the mind.
15, 16 years.
That's the mind by 30.
Okay.
My God.
Any has done mine.
How about this?
What about V8 Vantage as you're still 30?
That's the guy.
Because there's no longer V12.
I would like a V12, but I also accept the fact that, okay,
it's actually kind of similar to what you're saying.
Kind of.
Maybe not.
I would have to finance one quite heavily.
I don't want to do that for that car.
Whereas like an event store, I will consider that.
You'd take the risk.
Because that's the only way I'll be able to own one.
Whereas a V12 Vantage, I just,
I don't know if I want to put myself in that much debt for that.
I think you need to drive in both cars.
Agreed.
Because again, there'd be nothing worse than going through the trouble of,
obviously, ideally you would test drive it.
Obviously, if you're going to spend all that money on a car,
you would test drive it, right?
Beforehand.
Meanwhile, the MOT that started today.
That if you drove it beforehand,
you would have some kind of confirmation.
And at least you would then put it,
you'd put it to rest and go, you know what?
The drive I had in it, because that's the thing,
you might have an experience in a V12 Vantage or an event at all,
where you get to drive it on an amazing road,
an amazing day, and you go, you know what?
That was kind of all I needed.
I don't want the stress of owning it,
or having to keep it somewhere and having to maintain it.
I just wanted that one experience that I can remember of doing it,
and that might be enough.
But to do that, we've got to get you in one.
Oh, that's a lot of work to do.
And we have had a million offers, if I'm honest.
But I still believe this, that you need to drive an event at all
with a spicy exhaust.
Or an SVJ.
Or an SVJ.
I have to.
Well, you have to drive an SVJ.
Oh, I have to.
What a tough week I'm going to have that week.
God, I'm going to have to drive the SVJ.
Well, you'll be away.
We'll drive it for you.
I will be upset.
When you're in the quail, just do a bit of prospecting.
Oh, yeah.
But I can't until next year anyway.
Surely Valentino Balboa is in there, and you can get to give me something.
Ashing around in the Valais car park or something.
Yeah, that works.
I can work at Valais.
Technically, I'm driving it.
But next year, I can't until next year anyway.
True.
Too young.
Big too far for Ben.
Ben, you have a question in here.
It just says, wheel question.
A wheel question.
Go on.
Okay.
Fake items in the world.
Fake handbags.
Obviously, Will, you know much about that.
Oh, okay.
Fake designer wear.
All of these different items that are considered to be not okay to own and whatever.
From the pump.
Yeah.
Why is it the wheels are okay?
And why is it that when it's like, oh, you got a fake Rolex on.
That's a fake.
Whereas when it's like a...
Do you mean like Rory Mackay?
Where is a fake BBS?
That's called a replica wheel.
Yeah.
When no one's going, oh, and there's a replica Rolex, it's fine.
Why is that?
Why is it accessible for wheels to be fake?
They, in the community, they're not.
Like that's, there are jokes around people with replica wheels.
But yeah, there is more of like a thing of people being like, who cares?
It's just wheels.
Because your M3 has reps, yes?
It sells on it.
And then you go, you know, get the reps on the, nice little reps.
It seems to be a bigger in America with wheels to me.
America seems to be, I just noticed it from that cars and coffee thing I went to years ago.
And I was like, everything's got a ridiculous set of wheels on it.
Everything has to be 37.
Here, it's either you have a standard set of wheels or you have some form of copy.
It'll be either a copy of a genuine wheel, like the CSL wheels or CS wheels, or it's an OEM copy.
So it's not even a real version of a, so it does seem to be a big thing here.
I don't know why that, I need to understand why that is.
I think because a, a luxury good, the reason that you buy that is not, is not for the purpose,
if that makes sense.
It's because it's a, it's an expensive thing.
It's a thing to show off, right?
Whereas a car wheel is because you like the design.
So you're not like, I don't think many people are buying Rolexes because they like the color of it.
I would know, but why, why would you go for a green Rolex over a green anything else?
If you see what I mean?
Whereas the shape of a wheel, like I'd go out and buy new RPF ones at a grand,
but I'd also very much want T37s at six or seven grand.
So you're saying it's a flex thing?
What I think the luxury good is a flex thing.
But it's your seven whereas the wheel is the price is the price, but I want the wheel.
But I think in America, it is a flex thing.
It's a, I've got T37s on my F80 and M3.
I don't think they probably like it that much, but it's the wheel that everyone has and it's expensive.
So they go for it.
It's like picking a gold, it's a gold Rolex thing.
Yeah.
So I don't, I probably, I don't care that much, but I want people to know, and this isn't everyone,
but a lot of people that buy stuff like that, they're like, I want people to know
that this was the expensive one because this is the shaltiest, loudest one that you go,
blimey, that must have cost a lot of money and wheels can be similar to that.
But also lots of rep wheels are particularly in the UK anyway.
They don't look the same as the original.
And if you, if you're into that stuff, you will notice the differences and it's,
it's offset, it's concave.
It's, it's the, there's, there's lots of details where you don't, you would notice it if you knew.
And it's the same as a replica or anything else.
You would notice it if you were well into your watches, watches, and someone just got a cheap
replica or you bought a cheap replica.
Someone might know.
Then you would be deeply put off by it because it's not quite right.
And you're going to get questioned on that.
And someone's going to say, because a lot of luxury items, some people aren't like this
because they didn't show off, but some people buy it because it's a bit of an achievement.
They go, I've worked hard.
I'm going to buy something that to reward myself.
A wheel might be similar as well for your car.
And if you have to have questions going, oh, cool.
Is that, where did you get those from?
Are they real?
And you go, no, not really because they look so obviously.
But I can kind of understand it when it, and it looks, it's like the Chinese wheels that we've
been looking at.
Yeah.
Some of them are just exactly the same as the wheels you can spend 10 times the price on.
The wheels on my M3 are CSL replicas.
There are lots of different companies that make replicas, but only one of them that is
not legally really correct down to the stamping markings.
I went for those not because I'm trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes.
If anybody asks, I'll quite happily tell them they're reps because the stand of the real
CSL wheels are just as prone to cracking, except they cost four to five grand now,
whereas a replica set costs 600.
So now I don't have to care, but I still have the wheel correct.
If they didn't make any wheels that looked perfectly like CSL wheels,
I'll have to go and find a set of CSLs.
I guess it's fine if you own it as well.
Like you said, like if you own that, if you go, yeah, they're like, if you,
if you go, these are my CSL wheels and then someone calls you out on it, are they fake?
And you go, oh, yeah, yeah, they are.
Whereas if you go, yeah, they're fake.
It's when you see, when you see rotors with the T37 sticker,
I know that they're not T37s.
They don't look remotely the same if you've just got into cars, which is fine.
And they look similar to you.
Cool. But there's no point trying to hide that.
Mason We've spent that much on something,
wheel or not, it's something the benefit has to somehow make up the price.
And on a wheel like that, the original CSL wheel,
it isn't a game changing, amazing wheel.
It's not that light.
They're not forged wheels.
They're not that incredible.
So it's like, why would you, why would you spend all the money,
spend all that money for and wheels that are now hard to find unless you're like
putting a collector car together that needs to be original?
No one is actually going to care.
Yeah.
And also if you break a wheel, you curb a wheel.
That's, it's, it's, yeah, I want to know what the psychology is behind.
Cause it's like a cobra replicas.
No one cares.
No one cares if you have it.
Obviously it turns out that if you have a Z3 based one, people are going to care.
And some of the really good Ferrari replicas that are based on another Ferrari,
it's still a replica.
Mason Yeah.
But people don't care.
And Cobra one's GT40 is no one is bothered by that.
But if you rock up with a M3 replica, you're getting laugh that even if it looks perfect,
but you've still got a diesel engine.
Everyone's going to be, oh, my bloody hell, did you do that?
Mason Yeah.
It makes no sense.
So I want to know what, what's the, on the scale of like, oh, it's actually,
I'm cool with that to, to, wow, I'm just going to laugh at you.
What, what is that?
It has to half of it be rarity.
Mason Yeah.
Because at the same time, we don't technically laugh at people that repaint their cars a rare color.
Mason Yeah.
Mason You might go, it's not a color for me, but you go, all right.
Mason Yeah.
I couldn't have that because I painted it.
Mason So I painted that color.
What I was going to do if I couldn't find the locks for green M3, I'd have painted a black one.
Mason Yeah.
My dad's building that 6R4 rep.
And a, a, a Metro 6R4 is a potentially 250, 300, 400,000 pound car if you want to buy a real one.
And that, that's insane money.
Mason Yeah.
There's a very few people that can actually afford that, but you can build one for a fraction of
that. But again, no one's, no one cares.
Mason Yeah.
Because it's, well, of course, even if it's like, it's based on a Metro, but it's like,
cool, I'm cool with that.
It looks like the original thing, but it's a little bit different.
I'm fine.
So yeah, it's a very strange topic to talk about anything replica or fake.
Mason And if you've got replica wheels or replica parts, don't worry about it.
Mason Just cool.
Mason It's fine.
Mason At the other, the one other thing I meant to mention is that even replica wheels or replica
anything can be a meaningful amount of money to someone.
It could be that 400, 500 quid set of rotors.
That to someone is still a very big investment.
So fine, fair enough for buying them.
But equally for people who are mega into wheels, you can't expect them to be like,
yeah, man, I love them.
When they're a cheap knockoff of a much nicer wheel.
Mason I do find it weird that unlike lots of the, like, replica designer, like clothing,
that kind of stuff watches, is that openly selling replicas of a
design, of someone else's design.
I don't know what the indenouts are, the details of it or whatever.
But it's just so like there's no, there's no, the legality of it is totally fine.
Like no one has a shop just selling fake Rolexes.
Obviously, there are ways to do that.
They have a shop, but it's not, no one can just open a shop selling that stuff.
Mason Yeah.
Because you can get you, someone's going to come after you at some point.
If you're just advertising it and these, these wheel brands aren't saying it's a TE37 replica
or an RPF1 replica, but it looks exactly the same.
Like there is not that much difference in the design to, to say it's their own thing.
So that I find weird, but maybe people don't care about it.
Mason It's odd.
Mason Right.
Before we get to our final topic, which will be a forum question from Benjamin,
another question from Benjamin, not a question.
What is it?
Mason You tell me.
Mason It's a question.
Mason It is a question.
It's a guess.
So for reference, those of you who have not heard what is happening here,
Edwin and I have a video idea that we have both been secretly planning.
We roughly know we've used an independent third party to, to, to confirm.
Edwin Great taste in watches.
Mason That our idea is exactly the same or basically exactly the same.
And Ben's job is to guess that video.
Edwin Yes.
So somehow it involves myself.
Mason I don't know how that means.
Edwin I'm going to throw a small tip.
Mason Ooh.
Edwin That's pretty unusual.
Is that you have guessed closer and you are straying further every week.
Mason Go ahead.
Edwin I wanted to say that before you got this one out.
Mason Okay. Has anything else developed in this?
Edwin No. Nothing.
Mason You hear nothing else.
Edwin That's all.
Mason What? Has anything else developed on it?
Oh, we thought that one was like that.
Edwin No. That was, is that your question of what video it is?
Mason No.
Because that might help me because I hear things.
Edwin Did we stutter?
Mason Yeah, actually a little bit. You did.
Edwin I did say that.
You two are going to race each other somewhere and I get to choose where and in what transport.
Mason No. But elaborate.
Edwin You are going to race each other somewhere.
Mason Yeah. But I'd like to extrapolate that video.
Edwin What are we racing? Where
Mason Well, that's my choice.
Edwin I know.
Mason Hence my question to you.
Edwin Okay. So for example, I'm not to will.
Mason So I won't tell you what it would be because I don't know.
Edwin Okay.
Mason I have to throw the old dome for that.
Mason Please if you will.
I would say it's going to be, for example, one of you is in the Ninky Nunk.
One of you is on a bike.
Edwin Let's not do that. But sure.
Mason Yeah. Fight me. I mean, I think I should have
done that.
Edwin That's actually very, yeah.
Mason But what, okay. That is an example. And I'm going to choose you're going to race from
perhaps like across London, you say maybe?
Mason Yeah. And so you get like not very many views.
Mason That would be great. And I work really hard on the edit and it would be really good.
And you're going to race from Edinburgh Castle.
Edwin Sure. Your favorite place.
Mason To what would we stop there?
Edwin Anyway, carry on.
Mason It was the top of the road.
And then you're going to...
Edwin It's just Doxtras, hasn't it?
Let me know the new unit location.
Mason Like forza.
Edinburgh Castle to Isle of Skye, Ninky Nunk, and you're going to be in...
Edwin On a bike?
Mason On a bike. Edwin's on a bike.
Mason What kind of bike?
Mason What bike?
Edwin What bike?
Mason It's going to be a mountain bike.
A mountain? You didn't even give me a road bike.
Edwin It means you can do like you can go off road if you want.
Mason You can go over the pro flies.
Edwin Yeah, exactly.
Mason What, for a lot?
Edwin Ninky Nunk will be sort of winding country roads at the top.
Mason Right. Over the top.
Mason Sounds awful, if I'm honest.
Edwin Okay. That's like for example.
Mason There's going to be too many people in the comments going that sounds like an amazing
idea. Mason Guys, you should do that.
Edwin It doesn't. It sounds like an actual all the gear video.
Mason I warn you, this video won't happen ever.
Edwin That isn't a specific video, but I'm seeing that as an example.
So I would choose those things and then you got to go do it.
Mason Are you right? You're saying...
Edwin Am I close?
Mason No, absolutely not.
Edwin Again, you are... Again, this is the only hint you can be given.
Mason Colder.
Edwin Is that you are straying further and further from the sun.
Mason Because I don't know what I've asked you so far.
Edwin Hey.
Mason Number two, at what point I started straying further.
Edwin That's because you are a poor detective and you should have noted down your pathway.
Mason Thankfully, though, you have thousands of people listening who may be able to
give you context in the comments as to what you've guessed previously.
Edwin You can go back to your round table and discuss ideas.
Mason Shall we go on to a forum to end...
Edwin Sorry, no way. I have a thing.
Mason That's interesting. I have to be next week.
Edwin If any cremers have ideas that can help me with this, please do.
Please message me. Because we might accidentally come across what you...
Mason It was quite... What was the thing that you did...
Ben posted recently before the Mercy Lago video came out and said...
Edwin No.
Mason Anyone got any... Anyone know when Will mentioned the Mercy Lago in the podcast?
Edwin Yes.
Mason And basically, Ben didn't want to go through the podcast.
Edwin Yep.
Mason And whatever.
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Mason No. I put my story. So Joe, our editor was finishing up the video.
Edwin He's not involved in cream. So doesn't know the podcasts.
So we said in the notes on the edit, we said,
can we put in like a really nice emotional section?
Mason Did we?
Edwin Or did you?
Mason I said that actually. I think it was a really nice addition to the edit.
A nice emotional section after Will in the emotional video wins it.
It sort of builds up to the point where then there's loads of like sort of like sound bites
and clips of Will talking about how much he loves it.
Edwin You would make a fantastic politician.
Mason Really would. Really good.
Edwin But obviously...
Mason We will.
Edwin Obviously in that we have what we own at 88.
So we have coming up hundreds of hours of podcasts that we have to go through.
So I thought there are so many cameras out there keeping track and we don't know.
I'm going to pitch it to them and they weren't trying to pile off work with delegate,
maybe a little bit. But we were also very busy. So I just said, can anyone tell me?
And you know what? There were a few that we genuinely did get out of that and made the
video better. So thank you to everyone. But I did delegate.
Mason It was quite surprising actually, the amount of people that went.
Episode 47, 37th minute going to that. That's not accurate. I made that up.
Edwin And then I...
Mason Someone tell me what happened in that one.
Edwin Yeah. Can we please get a double check on that?
Mason I got a lot of messages from people being like,
well, it's the Monterey one with Blake Sam, which was the only one that we already had.
Edwin They'll say Lamborghini Maschallegra in the title.
So I was like, we have tried that.
Mason Yeah. But we did get some. So it was very helpful.
Edwin The fountain of knowledge and the brain power that we currently harness
with the Cremors is it feels dangerous. It's kind of unstable.
Mason We might be into triple digits IQ between us all.
Edwin Yeah.
Mason It could be good.
Edwin If we were to unleash it, if we were to unleash you all,
you know, no leash, if you will, unleashed.
Mason Unleashed perhaps.
Edwin Yeah. No limits. Then the danger wick, of course.
Mason Yeah. You know what? They say with great power comes great responsibility that I think
is a cream. We made that up. So what I'm going to tell you, just don't be a twat.
Edwin Yeah. Exactly.
Mason But it shows how much we genuinely believe in the audience because to help us in our
actual job, we went out there and said, can you please help? And you did.
Edwin Even Matt Jones of Matt Armstrong fame, who is his mercy logo,
lots of people thought that because he has now bought a yellow mercy logo,
manual yellow.
Mason But different bumpers. So come on, you
need to have people different bumpers. I saw that car come up so last year,
actually, I know exactly which one it was. But he has bought a car. So do you know what?
A fair play. Congratulations to him. He also has three Lamborghinis, but whatever.
But lots of people saw that car.
Edwin That's Will's car. There's creamers ahead. I just kept seeing comments. It was an
Ari performance post saying, well, this is a creamy mercy logo. I was like, you know what?
The power, it goes far and wide.
Mason It goes to your head.
Edwin It really could.
Mason Just keep you restrained.
Edwin Shall we end with a lovely forum from the creamers themselves?
Mason What do you have? Who is it this week?
Edwin This is from someone on Instagram called Thaz.
Mason Say their name.
Edwin Thaz.
Form question. What is different in engine oil types and what is the best to be used in Britain?
I do not know that oil is used. I do know that oil is used for example in Canada should be
different due to climate temperature, etc. etc. What difference does it make? I've heard this as
well. Mason Usually a user manual tells you that as well.
Edwin Yes. So yeah, different oils have different
viscosities. They have the different numbers at the beginning. The 10W is not the weight.
It is winter and it shows the different way it reacts in different... You didn't know that,
that's news to you.
Mason 10 weight 40.
Edwin Correct. Well, everyone says weight.
Mason Everyone says weight.
Edwin It is winter.
Mason It is a winter rating.
Edwin Not a joke.
Mason This will last 10 winters.
Edwin It is like how we make bets.
Mason People are putting up pre-assets with zero weight?
Edwin No, no, no.
Mason There is no winter coming this year.
Edwin Yeah, no. So it refers to the winter viscosity that you might expect to have at
a certain degree. I do not know the exact amount.
But so that will change depending on the location that the car is sold. But that is also the reason
why a lot of times the manufacturer weight isn't actually right for your car. They have to sell
the car in X amount of markets. It has to be able to go into Alaska and also be sold in Dubai.
So sometimes they will change the weight for different country, for different markets.
But more often than not, they would develop the engine to just withstand both,
which is why sometimes it's not adequate enough. BMW uses a classic one.
1060 is now what I run in the M3. That is not what they originally promote,
because I think it's a 1040 is standard. But you go to a thicker weight to have better
... There you go. Sorry, Edwin. Sorry. For better
viscosity when it's hot, because it doesn't like it when it's thinner, when it's hot.
If you have too thick of an oil in the winter, you do more damage because it never warms up.
Oh, so that's why they say you put a 10-weight oil in Spain, then you came up with a 5-weight
oil. Exactly. And then what does the second number mean? The 40, the 30.
That's the viscosity when it's warm. So the higher the number tends to be the thicker it is at a
higher temperature. So if it's 10-weight 40, so it gets thicker, it gets hotter.
No, that is the thickness at a certain temperature. We are by no means experts,
motel are the guys to go to for this. But yeah, that's essentially in a broad term,
what that's doing. Higher the number, the thicker it is.
And sometimes in... This is more in older cars, really. I don't think they do it as often now.
Where they're in the user manual that you'll have in your book pack, it will say,
in these climates, in these countries, at this temperature, run this oil. So it might be a case
of that if you live in a country where your temperature is quite extreme from one to the other,
like some places in the US or wherever, where you will have a very hot summer, but you'll also have
a very cold winter. They'll say, if it's in the winter, you need to run a different oil because
it... This normal summer oil, if you like, will not withstand a minus 10 startup. I assume coolant
must be similar as well. Coolant is a normally rated pretty low in terms of below zero.
Yeah, it's... Also, there's so many times that people change... Oil is one of the most difficult
things. Obviously, we're very lucky we have motel and we go to them and go,
oh, oil, should we run in this? And then you have gearbox oils and all sorts of other
ratings. Then over time, someone says, yeah, no, well, BMW or Lamborghini or whoever said,
you should run this, but actually, I've been running this and it's fine. And then someone
else will say, well, I've actually been running that and my engine blew up. So I don't run that
anymore. I run this one and that's better. It's so much crap out there. But...
I hate it when you get a heat wave and you've got to change your oil.
Next week here, it's going to be big. So I have to whack a bit of...
You, in theory, you could do that. You could go, like, as you go throughout the year, you could
make a gradient going from one oil to another. And that would probably be the best way of doing it.
Ben does a steady oil change anyway, with a sort of...
It's smart. It's a smart way to do it.
I could do that. I could put some... That would not go well.
No, but you're doing that. As you need to work out, you have a litre of each bottle.
Yeah.
As you lose a litre, which you're doing daily at this stage,
you can just put in a different grade.
S2000, definitely doing that.
Who knows?
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Hey, that car was fine. Sure.
No, it actually was fine.
Okay. Well, sure. We'll see what the new owner thinks when it comes back blown up in a few days.
So...
Hey, man.
I'm having fun perfectly when I sold it.
It's not what they've been doing to it.
Sold a scene.
Ben's the car dealer from Matilda.
I was about to say, Joe Pesci.
Not correct. What was it? Danny DeVito?
I thought...
Oh, Danny DeVito Rogers. Shall we wrap up the podcast here?
I think that's it.
I think that's the end of it.
Thank you very much for listening to this week's podcast. We'll be back next week.
As always, we have closed the gap. We're back. We're one week in.
The podcast went out on Thursday. We were caught on a Thursday.
Staying fresh, guys. You heard it here first.
Cream. See you later.
Bye, bye, bye now.
Goodbye.
About this episode
Cars and chaos kick off with a UPS mailbox ad, then the hosts bounce through real ownership problems and plans: an M3 back from paint but with “The bonnet won't open” and “I now have to do four brake pipes on it,” plus a Golf rattling from an “Orcs Belt” system and a likely alternator pulley/bearing fix. Ben’s in “limbo” after selling an S2000, so they weigh temporary Audi TT(s) options using CarVertical. Later, the show turns to wheels—pricing, replicas, and “CSL replicas”—and ends with a listener oil-grade question about what “10W” actually means.