C.R.E.A.M. #89 - Nurburgring Prep, Denza's Supercar and Cars We Agree On
C.R.E.A.M. (The TDC Podcast)
C.R.E.A.M. #89 - Nurburgring Prep, Denza's Supercar and Cars We Agree On
C.R.E.A.M. (The TDC Podcast) · Jul 2, 2026
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Car
Volkswagen Golf GTD
A sporty version of the popular Volkswagen Golf that runs on diesel instead of regular gas. It's designed to be fast and fun to drive while still getting great fuel mileage on long highway trips.
Place
Nürburgring
A world-famous, incredibly long and dangerous race track in Germany. It is open to the public to drive on and is used by car companies to test and develop their fastest sports cars.
Car
Audi TTS
The Audi TTS is a sporty, two-door coupe made by Audi. It is a faster and more powerful version of the regular Audi TT, designed to grip the road well in all weather.
Car
BMW M3 (E46)
A highly famous performance version of the BMW 3 Series from the early 2000s. Enthusiasts love it for its screaming engine, classic styling, and incredible handling.
Car
BMW 3 Series (E36)
An older generation of the BMW 3 Series from the 1990s. It is very popular among car enthusiasts who want a cheap, fun, rear-wheel-drive car to work on or race.
Car
Pontiac Solstice
The Pontiac Solstice is a small, sporty two-seat convertible made by Pontiac in the 2000s. It is known for its curvy design and fun-to-drive nature.
Car
Acura Integra
The Acura Integra is a sporty, upscale hatchback made by Acura. It is designed to be fun to drive while still being practical enough for daily errands.
Car
Renault Mégane RS
A high-performance version of a standard French hatchback that is specially tuned to go incredibly fast around race tracks. It is famous for its sharp handling and ability to beat much more expensive sports cars on twisty roads.
Car
Honda S2000
The Honda S2000 is a small, two-seat convertible sports car made by Honda. It is famous for having an engine that you can rev very high, making it feel like a race car.
Car
BMW i3
The BMW i3 is a small, uniquely styled electric car made by BMW. It was designed to be eco-friendly, using lightweight materials and recycled plastics inside.
Car
Hyundai Ioniq
The Hyundai Ioniq 5 N is a high-performance electric car made by Hyundai. It is unique because it can make fake engine sounds and simulate gear shifts to feel like a traditional sports car.
Car
5 Renault 5
The Renault 5 E-Tech is a small, fully electric car designed to look like a classic French hatchback from the past. It is built to be fun, stylish, and easy to park in cities.
Car
Denza Z9 GT
A futuristic, ultra-powerful electric luxury car from China that looks like a sleek wagon. It has three electric motors that allow it to accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in under three seconds.
Car
Grand Maserati Grand Cabrio
The Maserati GranCabrio is a luxurious, high-end convertible made in Italy. It is designed for comfortable, fast road trips with the top down.
Car
Chevrolet Corvette
The Chevrolet Corvette is a famous American two-seat sports car. The latest version has its engine placed in the middle of the car behind the seats, which is a design typically used by expensive European supercars.
Person
Wolfgang Egger
A highly successful car designer who has worked for famous European brands like Audi and Alfa Romeo, and now designs futuristic electric cars for the Chinese giant BYD.
Car
Land Range Rovers
The Range Rover is a large, highly luxurious SUV made by the British company Land Rover. It is designed to be extremely comfortable on the highway while still being able to drive through deep mud and rough terrain.
Car
Minor Morris Minor
The Morris Minor is a small, classic British car from the mid-1900s. It is famous for its round, friendly shape and simple design.
Car
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
The Jeep Grand Wagoneer is a very large and luxurious SUV made by Jeep. It has three rows of seats and is designed to carry large families in comfort.
Car
Bentley Bentayga
The Bentley Bentayga is an extremely expensive and luxurious SUV made by Bentley. It features a highly detailed, handmade interior and a very powerful engine.
Car
Ford F150
The Ford F-150 is a highly popular, full-size pickup truck made by Ford. Some special versions, like the Raptor, are built specifically to drive fast over rough dirt and sand.
Car
Ford F350
The Ford F-350 is a massive, heavy-duty pickup truck built for pulling very heavy trailers and carrying large loads. It is much larger and stronger than a standard family truck.
Car
Ford Mustang
The Ford Mustang is a famous two-door sports car made by Ford. It has been sold for decades and is known for its sporty look and powerful engine options.
Car
Porsche 911
The Porsche 911 is a high-end sports car from Germany known for its unique shape and having its engine in the very back. It is widely regarded as one of the best-handling cars in the world.
Car
D9 Denzers
The Denza D9 is a large, highly luxurious electric minivan. It is designed to carry passengers in extreme comfort, featuring seats that feel like first-class airplane chairs.
Car
Ferrari 12Cilindri
Ferrari's flagship two-seat sports car that features a massive, traditional 12-cylinder engine mounted in the front. It is incredibly fast, very expensive, and designed to look like a modern version of classic Ferraris from the 1970s.
Car
Ferrari Luce
This is a unique Ferrari designed to be driven every day, featuring four seats and a larger trunk area than a typical supercar. It is built for comfortable, fast road trips in any weather.
Car
Aston Martin DBX
The Aston Martin DBX is a large, very expensive luxury SUV made by the British brand Aston Martin. It is designed to be fast, comfortable, and stylish.
Car
Ford F-150 Lightning
The Ford F-150 Lightning is a fully electric version of the popular Ford F-150 pickup truck. It runs entirely on battery power instead of gasoline.
Car
Nissan R34
The Nissan Skyline is a famous line of sporty cars from Japan. Certain older versions are legendary among car enthusiasts for their high-tech features and speed.
Car
Bugatti Veyron
The Bugatti Veyron is an extremely fast and expensive car that was built to break speed records. It has a massive engine with sixteen cylinders and four turbochargers.
Car
Nissan Gtr
The Nissan GT-R is a very fast sports car from Japan. It is famous for its incredible grip on the road and its ability to accelerate extremely quickly.
Car
Ferrari F40
The Ferrari F40 is an iconic red supercar from the late 1980s. It was built to be as light and fast as possible, with almost no comfort features inside.
Car
Ferrari F50
The Ferrari F50 is a rare, high-performance sports car from the 1990s. It uses an engine based on a Formula 1 race car and has a removable roof.
Car
Ferrari LaFerrari
The LaFerrari is an extremely fast, limited-edition hybrid supercar made by Ferrari. It uses both a powerful gas engine and an electric motor to go incredibly fast.
Car
Renault Clio RS 182
A small, lightweight French hatchback from the mid-2000s with a powerful engine and sporty suspension. It is famous for being incredibly fun to drive on twisty roads, acting like a go-kart for the street.
Car
Renault Clio
The Renault Clio is a small, practical hatchback car popular in Europe. The five-door version makes it easy for passengers to get in and out of the back seats.
Car
Volvo V70
The Volvo V70 is a classic family station wagon made by the Swedish company Volvo. It is well-known for being extremely safe, spacious, and practical.
Car
Volvo S60
The Volvo S60 is a comfortable, mid-sized luxury sedan made by Volvo. It is designed to be a safe and stylish daily driver.
Car
Audi R8
The Audi R8 is a sleek, mid-engine supercar made by Audi. The first-generation model is highly loved by car fans, especially those with a manual gear shifter.
Car
Toyota Supra
The Toyota Supra is a Japanese sports car, and this specific older model from the 1990s is incredibly famous. It is highly sought after because its engine can be modified to be extremely fast.
Car
Lotus Amira
The Lotus Emira is a modern, two-door sports car made by the British company Lotus. It is designed to be lightweight and very fun to drive on curvy roads.
Car
Mclaren F1
The McLaren F1 is an extremely rare and expensive supercar built in the 1990s. It is unique because the driver sits right in the middle of the car, with space for two passengers slightly behind on either side.
Car
Ford Gt
The Ford GT is a low-slung, very fast supercar made by Ford to look like their famous race cars from the 1960s. It is highly collectible and has a powerful engine behind the seats.
Car
Ford Model T
The Ford Model T is one of the very first affordable cars ever made, starting back in 1908. It is famous for changing how cars were built and how people traveled.
Car
Ford Model
The Ford Model A is an early classic car made by Ford in the late 1920s to replace the older Model T. It was much easier to drive because its pedals worked like modern cars.
Car
Jaguar Etype
The Jaguar E-Type is a classic British sports car from the 1960s. It is famous for its long hood and incredibly beautiful design.
Car
Aston Martin DB5
The Aston Martin DB5 is a classic luxury car from the 1960s. It is most famous for being the car driven by James Bond in many movies.
Car
Shelby GT500
The Shelby GT500 is an extremely fast and powerful version of the Ford Mustang. It was originally designed by a famous race car driver named Carroll Shelby.
Car
Koenigsegg CCXR
The Koenigsegg CCXR is an extremely rare and fast supercar from Sweden. It was specially designed to run on biofuel while still being one of the fastest cars in the world.
Car
Pagani Huayra
The Pagani Huayra is an incredibly expensive, hand-built supercar from Italy. It is famous for looking like a piece of art, both inside and out.
Car
BMW M2
The BMW M2 is a small, high-performance luxury coupe. The original version is loved by drivers because it is compact, fast, and very fun to steer around corners.
Car
3 E36 Compact
The 3 Series Compact is a smaller, hatchback version of the classic BMW 3 Series sedan. It has a shorter rear end, giving it a unique look compared to the standard model.
Car
Hyundai Ix35
The Hyundai ix35 is a sensible, mid-sized family SUV. It is designed to be practical, reliable, and easy to drive every day.
Part
BMW M57
A famous 6-cylinder diesel engine made by BMW that is legendary for being nearly indestructible. Car enthusiasts love it because you can easily modify it to make huge amounts of power while still getting great fuel economy.
Term
Pumpe Düse
A special type of diesel fuel injection system used by Volkswagen in the early 2000s. It gave the cars a very punchy, fast-accelerating feel but made the engines sound quite loud and clattery, like a tractor.
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Hello and welcome back to the 89th Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast with my cell phone win, William to my left and Benjamin to the over there.
At the beginning of every single Cars Rule Everything Around Me podcast, we answer the question to cause rule or ruin everything around us this week.
Ben.
I'm going to rock with a rule today.
Oh, OK.
My one singular car seems to be pretty happy. Oh, no, I'm not. It's a ruin. Sorry.
I was going to say it felt like a gamble to go.
They sneak up on you. Those ruins also three seconds.
Yeah, three seconds. And then went, that's it.
I realized that sky went.
I was thinking beforehand, sure, there's a reason to ruin.
There is.
It is currently 35 degrees.
Sure.
Sure. Whatever that is in American language, lots.
That's 6000000000 I think.
Probably 190.
And my golf, which is fantastic, has no air con.
You know, you are.
I think I've heard you on this podcast say my golf, which is amazing, but more than anything else.
No.
What's it? What's it giving you?
Comfort.
Thought you could say something else.
No, but there are so many downsides.
What are the positives at this day?
It's a great car.
OK.
There's two downsides.
Chris Harris.
Three downsides.
All right.
Three downsides.
First one being the seats could be comfier.
OK.
Like a long journey.
They could be a little bit.
They're quite supportive, but they could be a bit more like sort of.
What is all of this?
That's nice.
OK.
Because I had my ex-wife before was really comfy.
OK.
Number two.
So comfort, not great.
No comfort is good, but it could be better.
OK.
Number two.
That's number one.
My two is it burns oil.
OK.
So reliability.
Not that great.
No.
It just goes through a bit of oil.
It's a running cost.
Call it a sunk cost.
Sure.
OK.
And number three is it has no air con.
Now the air con is fixable.
Sure.
I mean, I'd say most of it.
It's all fixable.
It depends on your budget.
I just haven't.
You haven't done that.
I haven't done the air con yet.
So it's been very hot.
To be fair, it's very hard to put that sort of thing in.
Yeah.
Like you have to phone a place.
Well, actually, you can do it somewhere.
Sometimes it's just online.
Or you even do it yourself.
OK.
And that's like at home.
I looked.
It's a tough world.
It's a crazy world we're living in.
I looked and everyone was fully booked for the next two weeks.
Wow.
That's weird.
That makes sense.
So, but the is, but I don't actually understand this, but something to do with the fact that
they switched over the actual gas and air con.
Correct.
In 2013, apparently.
Because my car is 2013.
Yeah.
No site knows exactly.
Maybe the one gas might be the other.
The difference in price is a lot.
And whether they have that same gas at a place depends.
So I'm not sure if they might go, we ain't got your gas son.
The old one was black and white.
Yeah.
It's the color.
Yeah.
And it's DAB now.
So now all of it will just come digitally.
You don't have to have the area.
Or they'll be a switch off.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So that's my reason to ruin.
But I did learn yesterday that the golf has launch control.
Yeah.
Like legit launch control.
How have you found that?
I've found that in a traffic light.
And for some reason I thought, does it have a lot of control?
I just thought, how would it be?
How would you use all controls?
I turned traction off, put it into sport, just mash the accelerator and put my thought on the brake.
And it does that for launch control.
Now, famously, I'd like you to do an impression of a golf bar launch control, please.
Yes, it'll be.
Can it?
Bit too, bit too.
Will, if you could.
Very good.
Very good.
Very good.
Sing a.
How's your, how's the GTD?
It's all right.
So lower.
A little bit lower.
Because it's obviously it's diesel.
Turbo.
Turbo's on the way out.
That was your clutch going, oh.
I haven't actually tried it properly yet.
I just know that it can do it.
I like to help afterwards.
That's not what you said earlier.
Are you sure it's not just a limiter?
You said earlier.
No, it's launch control.
In gear.
Because it doesn't, if it was in gear, it would try and jolt forward or you could feel it on the brake.
How do you know?
Because you said you haven't tried it.
I put it in launch control and let it sit there.
Because earlier you said you've been racing people from lights.
Did I say that?
Yeah, I think you did.
Legally binding.
You told us you smoked a McLaren on the way in.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
And he pulled over and he said, what have you got in that thing?
And you went,
Bloody?
The common rail injection system.
More than you could afford, pal.
There it is, the TDI.
No, I, I don't know.
I haven't tried it properly yet.
I'm a bit scared because I don't want to mash my clutches and it feels pointless.
Clutchy on its way out.
Yeah, not again, hopefully.
Old school creamers will know.
Okay, so it's a ruin because you don't have AC.
No AC and it's so hot and I have to drive an hour and 10 minutes home.
But also, yeah, we should, you moved recently, which means you're commute.
You no longer have this, this thing to hold on to.
We are like, I drive so far.
I see quite far.
But Ben now lives at number seven.
Downing street.
Just down, just not, not in the main house down the road.
Yeah, I couldn't quite get into the main one, but yeah.
Yeah.
Try and squeeze on the way in.
Couldn't I?
As always.
What about, well, you might not have one car for that long because there might be,
well, it's not going to be your car.
No.
It's going to be a car for you to drive.
But there is opportunity, I believe, to potentially buy it off the business after.
Well, we drive a hard bargain.
Essentially, we're looking, we're going to the Nurburgring in two weeks.
And there's a lot of people always go, oh, Nurburgring boring.
Maybe it is to watch it a thousand times on YouTube, but it's very fun.
It's a to go.
Also, we're excited.
Stuff yourself.
I've only been once.
Also, we'll win.
We'll win once in the pouring rain.
That was your first time.
My first time.
Even I'd been before that.
Oh, I haven't done anything correlated.
You were in the back seat of a golf, to be fair.
It's not like you, it's not like you were lapping in a GT2 RS.
How do you know?
Why was there?
Oh, yeah.
So we're going to the Nurburgring soon and we're looking for a car for young Benjy.
Benjy Min to drive.
Build him a little something we got literally three or four days to buy a car and build
it.
But we think we can come up with something that might be quite fun for little Benjamin
to drive.
Actually, can I say something?
This is the most nervous I've been for a video in quite a while.
Oh, sure.
I'm nervous for the, because we've done two episodes, but then one episode will be
by and one episode will be modified and take it to the ring.
I am, I'm quite nervous for the buying because originally I was part of this, but now now
it's sort of changed.
So now these guys tomorrow are going to buy something.
We're going to buy it without Ben.
So this will be interesting.
Which I'm actually, even though it's not my car, I'm just nervous about it.
I have to drive it so far.
Well, I've also never driven abroad before.
We are the highest bidder currently on something.
Oh, yeah.
Now I can say it because it's because it will be done by the time this podcast comes out.
We're the highest bidder.
I'm not going to show you a photo, but please feel free to search it up.
The highest bidder currently on the Seab flipper.
Now just go ahead and search it yourself.
I don't want to say we're following in the footsteps.
I don't want to say we're standing on the shoulders of giants, but you know, it's when
they talk about the second coming, it really is.
So what they were all expecting the Seab flipper.
We might have lost it.
We might have won it.
I hope we'll find out what I'm driving.
Ben, that would be tough.
I'm nervous for that.
And the second episode I'm nervous for because I originally thought the plan was that we're
not going to do it.
But I think we might have a bit of it.
We're driving from England to Germany.
So most would call that a road trip.
You said like we're not going to film the whole road trip.
It's not like a massive episode of that.
No, no.
But there is a bit of the end where we think we would try and do a little lap and no big
ring as nice endings to the video.
Little Benjamin's first lap.
Which I thought would be the boys in the car and I'll be there and you'll be and you'll
be.
But then you said to me, my alarm's going off.
Tell everyone what the alarm's for.
What is the alarm for?
I haven't got any food for dinner.
So I have to buy dinner on the way home.
I was going to forget to buy dinner and I'll get home and what haven't you said all that.
It's a buy dinner.
I'll sort of give the context.
I'm nervous for that a lot because now I've been told that potentially we're going to
go as a not like racing at all, but like just a nice general lap.
All three of us potentially.
I said, I said it could, it could be an option because I the being a part of the
passenger in a track car, really, I know you're not going to be driving it like a track car,
but it's not enjoyable being a passenger is not great.
It's not fun.
But you know what?
We'll do it.
The three of us will go out and then we'll do some laps afterwards in separate cars.
Like Le Mans 66.
I feel, but the end, because it's not, I'm not scared of, I'm not that scared of necessarily
my ability in terms of I'm not going to go.
Of course you're not.
I'm not going to go fast.
Because I'm just going to go gentle with it, but I'm scared of other cars.
I'm not going to go for a six or a seven.
Yeah.
I hate that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I feel really quite nervous for it.
I don't know what it's really getting to me.
So we'll see.
We'll see if it bends alive in the next episode.
Tomorrow's the day we will find a car.
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We're seeing a spike in Hurst.
We've got some options.
Obviously, we've been looking at some TTs.
Ben knows about those TT Mark 1s.
Obviously, TTs, we looked at them.
It's a little bit like the golf scene.
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William?
I was going to say Rowan.
Okay, okay.
Because I've got reasons to Rowan.
There are many reasons to Rowan, but we'll start off with a rule because I think it's an overall rule
because on Friday, I will pick up the Mercedes-AMG.
So my first drive in the Mercedes-AMG will be a commute to here.
That's nice.
Which will be interesting.
That'll be the first time that that will be the longest journey that car has done in about six years,
but that car now is taxed.
It is MOT'd.
Can't remember if it was MOT'd last time we did a podcast.
I think it had just been MOT'd.
But yeah, so it does have an MOT now.
And it's ready to go basically.
It's ready to drive.
I think the SBR fixed a bunch of small issues, which I'm very, very happy about the ham.
The ham.
That reminds us of our preamble.
What is the best type of pork?
Can we class like a pancetta or like a guanciale?
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There have been some issues that have popped up that are unsavory.
Let's call them.
They're not like day-enders, but they're sort of, they're looming in the distance.
So there's a couple of things.
It'll be in a YouTube video coming up.
Basically, there's a sensor on that car that needs to be replaced.
The guys at SBR have spent coming up for three days trying to remove the sensor.
And you know, the sensor, that's fine.
Like if it stops working, the car can run, right?
Yeah, no, just if it fails the sensor.
Worst, best case you just get an engine like, right?
It'll be some slightly dodgy running here and there.
Worst case, the car just won't ever start.
So if I ever get to that point where that sensor causes an issue where it doesn't start,
the engine needs to come out.
So they can't remove the sensor.
It's seized in the bell housing, which is very hard to get to.
Obviously, the gearbox is basically bang in the middle of the car where you can't get.
And that to get access to that, you need the engine out.
And to get the engine out is about, I think book times 40 hours.
It's like three to four days in and out.
It can be.
It's just people have worked out how to do it sooner.
I knew that need that job eventually, just not quite yet.
So I'm going to pick it up Friday, see how it goes, live with an engine like for a while.
That's fine.
It seems to be relatively intermittent, but if it picks up then...
Oh, but there will be a video hopefully on that car somewhat soon where we went to SPR,
had a look around it.
I also, did I talk about my key L?
I don't think we did.
No, I don't think we did.
We had a key L.
So got the car to...
I won't say who was involved, but people were involved.
And it wasn't related to me or SPR by any means.
Had the car taken to SPR, car got there, didn't have the key there despite the key being there
about an hour prior.
So the key went missing, turned out the key was about five minutes down the road here,
smashed pieces.
Run over.
So it had been dropped on the floor and the fob for the original alarm system had been
smashed a bit, which meant that the car was bricked, like bricked up.
So it wouldn't start dead.
So Stuart had to do some wiring that day to basically delete the immobiliser.
So that's gone.
What else?
So that's, that should really all be a ruin.
And then I have another, I have a McGann L ruined.
This is tough.
But I'll get onto that a little bit later on.
We will get to that.
It's annoying.
And I actually, the L got heavier.
Just moments before the podcast started.
I came over the crest of the L.
Yeah.
And we're seeing the next hill, which was a W.
Yeah.
And then I fell into a hole.
Pot hole.
And I just fell in this, like this booby trap was full of Ls out of nowhere.
Yeah.
It was an L shaped booby trap.
And they went, ha, ha.
So I need to fix that to prep for an overgring.
But yeah, I rule overall just because yeah, Mercy on Throne is going to be cool.
I'm trying to work out.
I've been trying to work.
I'm 50 50.
You know what?
I'm going to say it's a rule because in the same, same breath, same prep for the
nerve overgring behind me, we have the 46 M three.
I think we might have talked about it last week that it came back from bodywork and
it's the wrong color and is very upsetting.
But I have now spent the weekend on it getting a load of stuff done.
So I've done a, it's called a black tag rack.
So it means the steering racks much quicker that a CSF oil cooler because it starts to
get a little bit hot sometimes and a load of other bits and bobs, but more than that,
I asked EBC for some breaks and they very kind of sent them out and I gave them to Chris
at imagination creations.
He painted them cream and I got our new cream logo, which you'll see on the Merchant in
the video.
I got that put on the calipers.
It looks so cool.
We'll put a photo on screen.
It's I genuinely the most, most happy with a mod I've ever been in my life.
So the front ones are on at the moment.
After the podcast is done, I'm going to do the Rears because I've got matching Rears.
I just love it.
I like also green and cream.
It works.
It really works nicely.
So still lots more to do on the 46.
So that's my rule part.
My ruin is the beginning of last week.
I realized I do not have a car.
I have, I have many countless cars and none of them work.
None of them.
The, so I thought, I'll get my silver 36 going.
I'll take it for an MOT.
That car's pretty nice.
I looked at the advisories from the previous MOT rear tires, front pads, did them both,
took it to an MOT test and then went break lines.
There's shit.
The RSX strikes back and this was a, this was not a, a MOT tester that was supposed to
be, you know, a hard ass.
It was supposedly an MOT.
So there's lots of people we know have taken their cars to and be like, yeah,
they're okay with old cars.
And they said, no, rear brake lines are terrible.
I started replacing them just fine, just completely fine rear brake lines.
So I've been working on that for 23 days now, finished it last night at about
10 o'clock, pushed the brake pedal, everything fine, no leaks, went to bleed it and nothing
came out.
I thought that's weird.
I kept on doing the brake nipple.
Nothing came out.
Yeah.
Because the soft lines that had were fine up until working on the brake lines, they'd
both collapsed.
Did, did one side and thought that's annoying.
I'll get older brake line three days out and delivery.
I'll just bleed the other side.
No, that one had collapsed too.
So there has been 36 stuck on jack stands for maybe a week and a half, two weeks now.
I feel, I feel like a cretin just have all my cars here broken in different states of
the world.
But so overall a rule because I got cream, I got cream branded E46 M3 brakes, which is
cool.
That's cool.
If the green E46 wasn't obviously Edwin's car anymore, now you'll know.
Now you'll know when you see the cream, when you see the cream calipers coming at you,
the cream mobile heading into the side of a barrier at 120 miles an hour.
So what's that two rules?
That's three rules.
No, Ben changed to ruin.
Oh, you stupid idiot.
Sorry, man.
So you're not ruining everything.
Also, I forgot actually there are now Merchilaga t-shirts.
Oh, yeah.
They're not like, they're not, they're on the icon box dot something.
Yeah, they're not cream.
So will the icon box dot shop?
Icon box dot shop.
And then after that you have to find your own way.
But they're very cool.
There's some Merchilaga t-shirts with my actual car on.
They say generational debt on them, which is exactly what I've introduced to my bloodline.
Right.
What should we start with?
Let's start.
You know what, Ben?
I'm intrigued to know what this is.
Yeah, man.
You've put in here Ben.
I actually want to say the first two things you have put in here, I think you did it after
maybe eight beers.
But anyway, this one just says Ben right L right as in what's that mean?
No, that's for me to write the L to you from last week.
Okay.
So and if you've done that, I haven't had time yet.
You haven't had time.
Meanwhile, you sitting on your phone, you know, first 20 minutes as a podcast.
20 minutes to write with that quill.
Are you joking?
Okay.
Quill.
So you're going to write me an L.
Official next week now.
POS will be written.
How about this?
Next few podcasts.
Well, I just below that we have what says here a potential bet alteration, which so must
involve an L.
This came from a commenter and I don't know who you are.
I don't know what you commented, but, but right, Liam Neeson.
But I find you.
So our bet about me sending us 2000 was that I would have sold it by summer solstice.
Happy summer solstice guys.
Yesterday.
So that's now been in gone.
Now our next bet was that I will not buy another car you think before next year.
Now originally you suggested Christmas.
Right.
Here we go.
This is interesting.
Sorry.
Now you strings.
I thought you said Christmas.
I said by the end of the year and you came back to me and said Christmas.
Oh, sorry.
Well, I will change it again.
Oh, no, actually.
You could be right.
I want to change it again.
You could be right anyway.
Well, because I said there's extra days to buy a car.
Yeah, extra days.
That's work out that way.
So I want to change it.
It affects me in a negative way, but I'll do it for the meme.
Okay.
Winter solstice.
Why December 21st?
Now, why do you want that?
Because we've done the summer solstice.
Okay.
So now we should do winter solstice.
If we're going to make that.
Okay.
I like this.
So the evil peasants are once again back.
So will I will shake your hand on winter solstice December 21st?
Well, I mean, either of them work.
I mean, the birth of baby Jesus and also having, you know, winter solstice, they work around
about December 20th.
What happens in the winter solstice?
It's the shortest day.
Yeah.
Maybe the longest day for you, buddy.
Shortest day.
Okay.
So you're going to buy a car.
You claim you will buy.
Before the winter solstice on December 21st.
So before the sun falls in the lowest of the day.
Probably about 358 p.m.
Tough.
You have approved me four days on your bed.
No, nine days or 10 days.
Yeah, but I'll do it for the meme.
Thanks.
You're so generous.
Well, I'm actually.
Yeah.
I'm not sure what the actual facts are.
We need to know what other medieval calendar events we can start.
If we can have some sort of pagan festivals or any other, like I'm talking medieval.
Day of the dead.
I want, yeah, that's when we will start making bets and they will be, they will be deadlines
and they must be met.
What would you call it?
National holidays?
I would like, I would like.
I would like, I want a church, a church glass window made of one of the bets.
A stained glass window.
A glass window that Ben holding an L.
Oh, that's fantastic.
You know what?
If cream ever does well enough and we can start spending silly money on that sort of stuff,
you know, after we've paid Ben's exorbitant fees and we have any money left over, we'll
do, we'll do stuff like that.
We'll get a stained glass window in the cream unit and come Christmas.
Oh, all right.
Speak to yourself.
Perhaps we can get a little nativity set.
Oh, you know, we tried last year, but you'll never know.
We actually had the nativity set in the background.
We had live animals, Santa was here.
All sorts.
Do you know what?
A live and nativity set.
I do like the idea of if we can, but we actually do it in one of the stables out there with
a horse.
Donkey?
Yeah, no, we'd have to use a horse.
We should have gone for the feast of fools.
Ben, Ben, Ben, what did you play in your nativity scene?
I played star.
Of course you did.
And I fell over.
Shooting star.
Well, I played, I was a shepherd, but I refused to take my trousers off.
Why would you have to do that?
Because I've told me I had to take my trousers off.
I said, I'm not doing that.
So I was the only shepherd in my play.
Don't give in.
I was the only shepherd in my play who, well, because shepherds like Batman, you know,
back in the day, they weren't wearing trousers.
They didn't wear gray school trousers, did they?
Yeah, but it's not meant to be that accurate.
I was a star.
When I think about this story, I think, was I done over here?
Should I tell the police about a teacher saying, take trousers off.
Take them off.
I don't really want to take my trousers off.
I was actually co-star.
I wore it over my uniform.
Co.
There were two North stars.
There were two North stars.
Now I would say famously not possible.
Me and my mate Sam, as the North star and the sort of, there was another one.
As in Sam and the Integra.
Yeah, of course.
Me and him were the stars.
We were the co-stars.
I played star one or two and you played the other one.
How do you follow two stars?
Yeah, we'll get complicated.
Surely one's moving at all time.
Well, I fell over.
You were one very small star.
But it worked because I fell over so then he could go,
so yeah, where's he gone?
Three wise men went, so we need to follow.
Oh, where's that?
Where's he gone?
Oh, that one's there still.
So we'll follow him.
That star just imploded.
Fantastic.
Backup star was better.
Another end of a civilization.
When you think of the nativity scene, famous animals, you think of?
Donkey.
Cow.
I was cow.
You were cow?
I was in the nativity.
Which half of the cow are you?
I was the only cow.
How can we...
Whoa.
I had a mouse.
Cow, famously two people.
No, I was just a mouse.
No, I think you could be a cow.
You were a cow on two feet.
Yeah, don't just stand in there.
No, because shepherds.
And then when they started singing, I was belting that out.
And then also halfway through, got bored, left.
But do shepherds not have cows?
It's a question for them.
What was it sheep they have?
You know what?
I think something to ask the owners of tractors.
Yeah.
Well, only at night.
Exactly.
Farmers.
Sorry for this is your first podcast and you were here to listen about cars.
We'll move on to that now.
On the subject of Ls, I got...
This is an L related to what I was just talking about.
And I think this might...
We haven't talked about official Ls in a little while.
Apart from Ben's one, but it's obvious.
Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands for the super athletic stuff.
Like running gear for cruising up the trail.
Woo!
And the super athletic stuff.
Like fishing gear for chilling by the creek.
Nice cast.
Fitness apparel to push for higher reps.
You got this.
And golf balls price so you can afford to lose one.
Or a few.
Head to Sierra or Sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all.
From athletic to athletic, Sierra's got it.
But official Ls throughout the year just related to little things.
Yeah.
And I'm willing to claim one for myself related to my began wheels.
Wait, wait, wait.
An official L.
Yes.
This is like an L to be spoken about, not handwritten.
That has to do between us.
Then it's not official L.
I'm putting it towards there.
Because where's that?
We have a list of Ls.
Yeah, exactly.
You can't refer to it though as an official L.
Please.
You can't refer to it as that.
That's a separate thing.
I'm putting it towards the forum.
Not that forum.
Our forum.
The forum of conversation.
Confirm L.
Confirm L.
Sure.
Confirm L.
Confirm L.
Well, not yet.
Because we all need to confirm it.
We're going to pass the laws of the L.
Hold on.
Sorry if you're listening and you're hearing sound effects.
First Ben was kicking an empty Red Bull Cam.
Now he is pulling the wires that are to do with our podcast set.
It keeps getting caught.
How about this?
Stop moving.
Got it.
Are you quite done?
I'm done now.
Good.
I'm comfortable and happy.
Please talk.
Ben, the benevolent salesman, sold me some wheels.
I did.
For a good price.
I will absolve you of this.
You haven't done any wrong.
You're just an idiot.
It's fine.
You haven't done any wrong on this.
I bought your N.
K.
RPF ones, which are a 5 x 114, which is like a JDM Japanese car
fitment.
Many.
But somehow my McGahn is also that.
McGahns are also a 5 x 114, which is very strange.
But it means you can fit some quite interesting wheels.
The original wheels on my car were an 18 inch.
The aftermarket ones anyway were 18 inch.
They fit very nicely.
In fact, they fit perfectly.
In fact, I should never have sold them.
It turns out.
Who sold them?
Yes, I've sold them.
I sold them to John at Comrant, which means I can't now go back because he turned up
when I met him to give him my new wheels with my wheels on his car.
Now powder coated silver.
But that deal is officially done.
And I bought these 17 x 9.
So like width wise, they were good offset.
They're on the extreme.
17 inch wheels.
And I'd seen record of one man on the Internet who had fitted these.
I'd never seen a picture of them on the car, but he said he had them fitted.
I will allow myself some blame here because when Ben said I need to sell those wheels,
I said, Will, you could put them on the McGann.
And I went online and I found this man and said, look, there's a man that's done it
and sent you the link.
And so Will was like, cool, that must fit.
I love what happened.
It simply doesn't fit.
I gave them to John at the weekend after I didn't just buy them.
I then had them powder coated and then bought brand spanking new AR ones to fit to them.
I got far too ahead of myself on it before even even testing them.
So gave them to John.
He tried to fit them and said, yeah, we'd have to show down your calipers, your caliper bolts
and many other things to get these to fit.
They're also periscally close to your control arm and the offset is insane.
We will need to add probably at least a 16 mil spacer.
Basically, on the hub of the McGann, they have like a 16 mil lip.
So the spacer you need on the front is quite big.
But if I add a 16 mil spacer to that car, my God, I would need a ridiculous amount of cam.
But it's just never going to work.
So I'm going to have to sell those wheels, either wheels and tires separately or together, whatever.
And then I just by fortune, I went on eBay, searched up some wheels and I found some
Advan GTs, cool wheels, way more expensive than the Enkeys.
But they'd recently been refurbished in white.
I thought this is meant to be.
I'm going to buy those wheels, agreed to buy the wheels, bought tires again.
Don't know why I'm doing this before I've actually got the wheels, but I have bought tires.
And then just before this podcast, literally two minutes before we hit record,
he messaged me and said, Oh, mate, the wheels aren't for sale anymore.
I've tried to fit them to my I've tried to fit my new wheels to the car and they don't fit over the brakes.
Yeah, it's like that.
Is it so I'm now without wheels and we go to the nubbuggering in about nine days.
I have no no wheels to fit.
Your two, your two sets of tires deep, one refurb, yeah, two sets of wheels deep.
I'm still without that.
That's tough.
I had to buy a shim for the other one.
The man who has fit them, he says it on Facebook, he put a comment saying when he sold them saying,
mate, just need a 13 mil spacer for to make them fit.
Count fit 13 mil spacer.
You need a 30.
It would be sketchy to do that on the McGann and it's going to the ring.
So don't do that.
So I'm now on the hub for wheels and I'm very upset because there are no wheels.
Also, when does this podcast come out?
Just before we go.
The day we go.
Cool.
So if you have any wheels, you can't do anything.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks guys.
Hopefully I will fix this.
Hopefully I'll find something.
But it does.
It's exciting because it means I can find some cool wheels.
Yeah.
But the advanced, I had my heart set on them because they were white already.
They were already refurbished.
All it needed was tires.
They were a little bit extreme.
Offset wise and a bit, but they would have looked so cool.
I haven't seen someone else do those on the McGann and I don't want to go like team dynamics or something normal.
Yeah.
I want something not necessarily no one's ever done, but something a little bit different.
This is kind of a forum question, but this sort of stuff is why we, I know we'll scare people a lot because they go, I don't know if this will fit.
And it's also why people have bad fitment a lot of the time because either they just guess or they go really safe with it because they're like, I don't want to get too far out to the edge.
But there are, especially if you're going for something that people haven't really done before, you'll run into it.
Yeah.
You have to deal with the fact that it might not work.
And also if you find wheels that are cool, that seem to fit, but no one's done it before, usually a reason.
But we saw that one guy that did it and we're like, there is the exact fitment.
Everything there.
Cool.
It works to curse you, man.
Basically they could fit, but you would have to go.
If you were a stance car, it was a show car, you'd get away with it, but I'm not about that.
I'm not about trimming my brake caliper down and running mad camber just to fit the wheel.
I'd rather the car drive correctly on a different set of wheels.
But there's a balance here.
I've got to find a cool wheel.
I must find a cool wheel.
So I have a week to do it.
I like what happened.
What the hell?
Sorry.
I got my wheels sold.
You're horrible.
I didn't charge me two grand for them.
I didn't think about your friend at all in this situation.
You said they would fit.
I sold them to you for a very competitive rate.
No, but you just said you're glad about what happened.
Well, yeah, I got them sold.
So you don't care that I don't turn them?
No, I care.
So just remember what we're doing tomorrow.
I don't care because I was looking forward to parts of the S2000 living on within TDC.
Oh, yeah, sure.
And now I'm not.
Yeah, okay.
Remember that.
I'll borrow them back off you.
When the money hit the account.
Will you?
The lesson you paid me.
I'll short my wheels.
Oh, it's about $1800 then.
Yeah.
Right.
What we got next?
But is that an L?
I'd say I confirmed L for short.
35L.
Sure.
30L.
It feels like an L.
Yeah.
So it has to be an L.
And it starts to really feel like an L.
Only your heart knows.
As J-House said, if it feels like an L.
If it smells like an L, it must be.
It must be an L.
It must be.
And if it feels like an L, it truly must be.
And Ben should know.
Takes one to no one.
True.
True, true, true.
Ben, you've been here as part of your late evening beer drinking.
I wasn't drinking beer.
I've been adding things into the green podcast.
Scringle flying.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
I've been staring at this for a week.
I was just wondering.
I did not know about the podcast.
I was on the M4.
No.
And I was going 70 miles an hour.
Of course.
As I do.
Understandable.
Belatable.
Brackets true.
And a...
You know the Hyundai Insta?
Yeah, the little guy.
The really small thing.
The little guy.
One of those flew past me at Mac piss.
Now, gauge me a speed.
I'm not joking.
I reckon at least 100.
Like sketchy speed.
So on a top speed run.
Yeah.
I was baffled.
Actually baffled.
Did it rock your car?
No, because I think because...
So I was on my left hand lane.
Because it was basically not a round.
So I was just sat on my left hand lane.
And...
Lane hogging.
Wow.
It's literally how the road works.
Now, Ben, the top speed of a Hyundai Insta, 93 miles an hour.
So he must...
He or she, sorry, must have been on a VMAX.
It's auto top and L.
They'll be downhill on the other hand.
Yeah, I think possibly.
Yeah.
Because it may be that they...
Hey, listen, it was near Swindon.
The manufacturers have been known to sort of sandbag on the old numbers.
It's true.
It's true.
But it was...
I mean, maybe it wasn't 100, but it was...
It flew past me.
Could be a case of like, you know, if they...
If it actually goes over 100, they'd have to put different tyres on it.
And it was cheaper to put these tyres on.
So we'll cap it at 93.
When in actual fact, it can do 195 miles an hour.
Or we're getting into that thing in the early 2000s where all of the German manufacturers
said 155 mile an hour max.
But you could get a delimiter on it.
So all of the, you know, the electric cars coming out, they all say 93, 94.
Let's keep it safe, boys.
You take off the limiter off the Insta and you're doing 160.
It was 100% going minimum.
It's top speed.
100%.
Well, I would say maximum.
It's top speed.
Well, it might be going more, but it was minimum like...
It was at least 90.
If you're the person in the Insta, absolutely sending it down the M4.
Please, please do let us know what your V-Max...
If we could get a draggy time on that, if we could get a V-Max...
But obviously they knew they were going quick because I was in the left hand lane
and there was no one else around.
And they were in the far right lane.
Oh, so they were on Autobahn spec.
They obviously knew like, I don't want them to put out on me, you know, someone on the top speed run.
I was in shock.
Now, no footage on the dash cam.
I'm on the dash cam.
No, why not?
Why don't you get your phone out?
Would you have a dash cam then?
That's a good point.
Would I have a dash cam?
Ben feels like a dash cam.
I feel it.
I would have a dash cam.
All right, but for me, it would be more because for funny things.
Interesting.
I had yesterday, I was driving somewhere and I got around about and an entire coach like pulled out on me.
And he pulled out in...
Not part of a coach.
He pulled out into the middle of the roundabout.
And I honked because I was like, hey man, like it's give way to the right.
How long did you honk for?
Not that long.
I was just pulling out.
He was just in front of me and he, he, he mouthed at me, use your brain.
That's actually...
Do you know what?
More cutting than any swear word.
And I was like, I was...
Because did you, did you question yourself for a minute?
For a second, I was like, is it give way to the left?
No, it isn't.
It's my right of way.
And I was like, okay.
I almost, it was so baffling that I didn't even get annoyed.
I just went, what?
Let's go.
Now, did you, what hand motion did he use?
Did he tap the head?
He tapped his head.
And he had no hair.
So did you, did you hear the sound effect?
Yeah.
In your brain?
I didn't know what he said.
So at first I genuinely thought he was pointing at it like the fact he had no hair.
And I was like, well, why would he be saying that?
He goes, why people that of me?
He goes, I'm bald.
Come on, come on, mate.
Use your brain.
I'm bald.
But he mouthed, use your brain.
And I was like, what have I done wrong here?
I did nothing wrong.
He hit you like an East End gangster and you use your noggin.
The best part is that, so he started pulling out as I was coming around about.
He definitely saw me.
And, but then as I honked, he then slowed down to then do that answer.
So he blocked me even more.
And then, yeah, then he drove off angrily.
But I was like, what is going on?
So, yeah, that dash cam flat would have been fine.
That would be lovely.
You'd have one of those dash cams that faces in.
Yeah.
Which, you know what?
I see a lot of people on lots of Graham in America do make a content out of it.
Capturing their reaction to it.
I would like that.
I'd like a live stream of any time you're driving that I could just tune into.
Yeah.
So by the time I get home, I can watch you finish your journey.
It would be mean to sing.
What's his purpose?
Purpose.
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That's the sound of a multi-level marketing pitch.
This is life changing, you guys.
Sounds like she wants you to buy lots of essential oils.
They are so essential.
And then have all your friends buy essential oils.
Are you more of a Geranium or Lavender fan?
Don't look her in the eyes.
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So if you ever crash it, it eliminates like, you can see what happened.
So she'd lie.
That's the issue.
People would lie and then they would say,
He was doing 200 miles an hour and he hit me.
No, but I mean the inside that the one that faces you.
The one facing you.
Just go, look at the way he reacts.
Well, like taxi drivers.
And cried after he crashed.
Yeah.
I don't know what the purpose of having the interior.
I assume like obviously it'd be useful if someone was on their phone.
But I mean that's in their car.
They're just incriminating themselves.
But taxi drivers.
More saying they shouldn't incriminate themselves because they should.
But it just feels silly.
Taxi drivers always have one.
But I assume it's because it's in case you have Google AI has the answer.
Here we go.
As I've always for the purpose of the interior dash cam.
The purpose of an interior dash cam is to record the inside of your vehicle.
So I think we put this to bed.
I think we can move on.
Google top workers always.
Thank you.
Can you elaborate?
It says it provides.
This is a new paragraph.
It thought we might be happy with that.
It provides a vital layer of security acting as evidence in the event of an accident.
A passenger dispute or breakings.
But breakings.
I can kind of understand.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
No, that's fair.
Like car jackings.
Sure.
Notorious in the UK.
Also.
Those car burglaries.
But for both of those things, it requires someone to then after it's happened within
like a minute, press the stop button.
So the car jack have to happen.
They drive with your car.
And then have to go.
And then press the off button to the SD car.
Save that for him.
Yeah.
I'll bring it back to you.
You can do it on your phone as well.
You can.
But you shouldn't be on your phone while driving.
So you have no car now.
So if you're driving, you're not the victim of a car jacking.
If I get car jacked, I'm not going to lie in the road.
You are the car jack.
You feel whatever the brand is and then press stop recording.
Cool the police, but hold on first.
Always loads.
Takes a while to load.
Crop in on that one.
Yeah.
I want to start there in there.
Perfect.
It always baffles me when I see those dash cam ones and it's just facing inside.
I'm like, why have you got that?
That people who have CCTV in their house.
Yeah.
That I don't like in your bedroom.
Not fan.
What are we doing here?
I'm going to read it.
I'm going to read it in its entirety.
Edwin put in here.
I three all up in my shit.
I really like the BMW i3.
It is an electric car.
And we have famously said we don't particularly like electric cars.
And I'm not trying to backpedal.
And I know that there's a lot of people who will.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
And I know that there's a lot of people who will claim us to be BMW car balls who just
love BMWs.
But I really like, I just really like that design.
I keep the more and more when it was first released, I said on the podcast, I like, I
like design.
Never else didn't like it.
And then I've liked it more and more.
And then I found out I sent a message to BMW and said, Oh, when's, when's the individual
individual, individual specs coming out on these.
And they said in 2027, there will be beginning of you be able to have an individual.
Meaning have an Oxford green one.
And because of various business things, we'll maybe talk about it in the future podcast,
you can purchase through businesses, electric cars and right part of it off on the business.
So you don't actually have to pay it from out your pocket.
If that makes sense.
So I've kind of looked at it as a, I've had so many car breakages in the last month or
two, but I've been looking at newer cars and more, more reliable cars.
I kind of, I kind of like the idea of it.
I'm happy to, to preface though, you would still have the bad cars.
Oh God. Yeah.
You were just, this is just one to get to work.
I still think I understand it the way people think because I think it, I'm starting to
think it less, but sometimes having a tool that is there for traveling, you literally
that is entirely useful.
When I think about the alpha, I love to bits and it doesn't cost me a lot of money and
whatever else, but having something that hopefully still doesn't cost you a lot of money.
Obviously it cost you a lot more than 600 quid, but it's quiet.
It's reliable.
It does all the modern stuff and you can listen to your music and you can have nav and all
that stuff.
And it has a heat seat as adaptive cruise control is quite nice.
You don't always have to be, my commute is incredibly boring.
I incredibly numb and I do not need a super exciting car just to commute in all the time.
But I can understand why someone would have an electric car for that.
I do, I could never have an electric car that replaces the muscle or the McGann or something
like that.
And which is why I don't quite understand the fun electric cars.
I agree with one of those Ioniq five ends.
I thought it was incredibly fun.
But I thought there isn't an equivalent petrol car, especially at that price that I wouldn't
have instead really.
Sorry, there isn't.
I wouldn't choose the Ioniq over the petrol car or whatever it is.
But over like a diesel or something like that, like a numb diesel or something automatic,
it does make a little sense actually.
And we spoke about this in the Renault 5 review that we did to be fair where I said,
I don't understand it and I really hate the fact that you have to go out and you have
to charge all the time.
But if you own an electric car, you will have a charger at home.
And that is the one upside you will never get from a petrol car.
You cannot fill up your car at home unless you can an electric car, unless you are a
petrol station.
But you use the correct terms there, which is that it's a tool.
Thanks.
No, that's not me.
Thanks, thanks, Dad.
But what I mean is it's there as a rather than you look at it as a tool rather than
it being anything else.
But I agree.
Like the new M3, the electric M3, I like the way it looks, but I cannot understand why
anyone would want it.
Because in terms of feel, that's going to be the same as an i3.
I know it's going to be quicker and it's going to have motors on all the wheels and
cool.
But there's no feeling, there's no vibe difference.
Let's use the Gen Z word between that and like an i3.
Whereas if it's just a tool to go back and forth and I just like how it looks, I think
they're really cool.
I like this new shape.
So yeah, I have inquired with BMW and said, yo, is that how much is, because sometimes
their individual things are mega money and then that's not worth it.
If it's on a cool, least eel that's mega cheap, hey man, I'd consider it.
The thing I do keep coming down to is if you have fun car as well, one fun car or a few
fun cars, whatever it is, some project cars, track cars, stuff you use in the weekend,
that your daily or whatever you use most of the time, it doesn't need to do that thing.
And why put yourself through the pain of having to deal with that, that car possibly breaking,
you need to modify it.
That doesn't mean you can't modify some of these cars.
You can still do that with wheels and whatever else.
The other reason, up until we said it in the Renault as well, up until now, I've never
even looked twice at electric cars other than the Honda E when that came out.
That was really cool.
The Honda Honda E.
The Honda Honda E, sorry.
Sorry, you have to use his government name.
I love the look of it so much that I asked to have to try one as a press car is that
any time I left the house, I could not make it home.
I would drive 50 miles and my 110 mile range would turn into 70 and I have to charge on
my home.
Supposedly this has 560 miles of range.
Even when I go up to see my mate in Liverpool, that's about the farthest I do, that's 200.
So I could make it there and back on a charge.
Even in the dead of winter, that should in theory keep to there.
That's cool to me now.
Now that's fine.
If it means I only have to ever have to charge at home at night, I'm fine with that.
That is where that's the point I was trying to get across in the Renault 5 thing we had.
The Renault 5 didn't have much range.
I think it was 200 miles.
But again, you have to remember you're filling it up basically every day or you can fill
it up basically every day.
So the Alpha will probably get me 500 or 600 miles on a full tank and I'm probably only
filling it up maybe three or four times a month really.
Maybe a little bit more depending on how much driving we're doing.
But I have to then fill up a full tank every single time I have to go to a petrol station
and do that.
Whereas I can understand why you having a two or 300 mile range and then you just getting
an extra 100 to 200 miles, you're basically never having to fill it up while you're out
and about unless you have to go and do a long trip.
So for a car like my commute is I don't know 60 or 70 miles a day.
You've docked yourself.
So I'm 60 or 70 miles from this precise location.
Spotting the map right now going there.
That's so the crow flies though, isn't it?
Of course.
Could be different.
It's entirely possible unless you have to go and do a long trip.
You may never have to go and use a fast charger.
In which case it costs you almost nothing to run that car.
The downside being is that you are driving a completely numb washing machine appliance.
But it's also quite nice to have that.
And then when you get in your exciting car at the weekend or you do take your exciting
car to work one week feels even more exciting.
So I just looked it up a charge supposedly overnight.
This may be wrong.
Evian is in the comments.
Please feel free to correct.
This is just an AI but a full charge of something like that overnight will cost you about three to four pounds for a full charge.
Now that's that's have to have 700 miles of range overnight.
Surely that's on some sort of like special tariff.
That's on that is on an EV tariff.
That's because you're charging overnight overnight in the correct slots.
Electricity is cheaper overnight.
Correct.
Because it's cheaper to make overnight.
The Hamsters work better more efficiently at night.
They do.
The lights make them all weird.
Yeah, they don't like it.
So you know what?
Maybe you see EVs in not in the future, not in TDC future.
No, again, literally a tool to go places.
You can tell that denser have got to you guys.
Speaking of.
Speak of the devil.
Speak of the devil.
We received a an email recently and I'm not going to say it's personalized.
Absolutely.
We'd love to say that our denser mentions have meant that great denser, the great Craig has reached out and said, Bond James Bond, you're going to Goodwood.
But be it denser.
We found out our owned by the big bad boss B Y D which stands for Ben.
Build your denim.
Build your denser.
Build your denser.
Build your denser.
Bring your denser, will you?
Bring your denser.
So they own denser.
Denser are not in the UK yet, but they are launching it in the UK.
Not sponsored.
About three months ago, we believe, but it hasn't been launched.
Coming any moment.
It's first half of 20, 26.
We're in the second half now.
We are.
We are in the second half.
You know, Q3, 20, 26.
Good things come to those who wait.
That's not what B Y D stands for.
But basically, obviously, lots of these companies doing lots of marketing and
reaching out to influences, which they must have missed the mark when it came out.
So it was Ben the event.
Rogers.
So there's a bit of blanket invite out to many people.
We happen to be on the end of it.
But when they mentioned denser, we're in our ears,
up and then we found out that denser are launching a speedy Gonzalez.
Yeah.
At Goodwood.
So supposedly there is going to be a denser super car.
Super car.
No less at Goodwood Festival speed.
It is going to have 1582 brake horsepower.
That's fully electric still.
Yes.
And 217 miles an hour.
It is supposed to be a like a rival towards the Maserati Grand Cabrio type thing.
And it does.
It looks a lot like the Grand Cabrio.
We've got a photo on screen.
That's what I thought when I first saw it.
It's not bad looking.
I like it.
There's a there's a rear shot.
So no, hang on.
I've got four doors.
That's it?
No.
It's only a two door.
It's got massive fuel.
Sorry.
I was seeing the front thought that was a door handle.
The rear.
I actually don't mind the rear.
That's Bentley.
It's Bentley mixed with a Corvette C8.
Yes.
It's kind of interesting.
So again, look, we haven't been swayed by Denzi yet.
Is it a hard top?
I know.
So you can have Ben, I'm going to do something I know you've never seen before.
Yeah.
I've done some research before this.
Wow.
There is both a hard top and a soft top version that you can have.
But I'm sorry.
It's like a coupe or it's a retractable hard top.
I believe it's a retracting soft top.
Or a coupe.
Or you can have it as a coupe.
Now that's a coupe.
So 1500 horsepower.
The coupe is here.
It looks a little bit interesting.
The coupe.
It's got big old wing.
I prefer the convertible, if I'm honest.
Yeah.
But without that, it highlights the elegance of Denzi, doesn't it?
Ben, a car James Bond would drive.
Yeah.
How much any guesses on how much the soft top weighs or the hard top, either one?
Soft top.
Go on, Ben.
You can put me out my mousetrap.
Soft top.
What?
The whole car?
I've got an up on my head.
Soft top is going to be, I want to say relatively heavy.
I'm going to call it 1600 years.
Yeah.
2.7 tons.
Perfect.
2650 in soft top form or 2580 with the metal roof.
So you really want to go for the metal roof.
That dynamics, the really lightweight, low to spec.
But it's fine because all the weight is low down.
So Denzi said it would be...
Not 60 in less than two seconds.
Less than two seconds.
Less than two seconds.
That is insane.
Can we try on Denzi, please?
Denzi, mate, give us a...
Denzi, bail us up.
So the email has basically said, yo, we have been chosen.
Yeah.
We have been chosen.
Whether we accept or not is entirely up to us.
So you will see.
Hopefully you will see soon.
We will confirm whether that's going to happen or not.
Our people will speak to their people.
Of course.
Daniel Craig.
Of course.
Of course.
Daniel Craig.
Of course.
Of course.
Ben Rogers.
Ben Rogers.
I'll go Aston Martin.
No.
Denzi.
The most famous Roger after Roger Moore.
Yeah, exactly.
Ben Rogers.
On the event.
Now, the one other thing that I read that was quite interesting.
It also has four independently controlled electric motors and the same.
Daisas, M, Magna...
Here we go.
Magna Torcheological Suspension from the Yang Wang Unite.
That's the hopping guy.
That's the hopping bastard, isn't it?
The Yang Wang Unite.
Which I think they should change the name to.
The Hopping Bastard.
Isn't that Yang Wang?
Okay.
Is that Yang Wang a bus or is that a U-Tong?
Man, this is becoming like Watch Dogs.
This is really interesting.
They can't keep getting away with this.
If you showed us this podcast section, if you showed it to me five years ago, I'd be like,
this isn't real.
You can't call cars like that.
Surely.
The Italians need to get involved.
Yeah.
Although I just also read that it's shaped by BYD's chief designer, Wolfgang Egger.
Does that now Ben laugh because it was the word egg?
But the more car-focused people among us will know that he's the man that did the 8C.
Did he?
Really?
Did he Mr. Egger?
Mr. Egger.
Now, surely, right?
Surely.
You still love the egg?
Yeah.
We are the outlet, callers, that has given denser than most props in the UK.
We have to be.
Surely.
But also by far the ones that understand the electric cars and Chinese cars the least.
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is, is that denser, you owe us an electric car even for the weekend.
Oh, well, did you hear that?
They owe us.
We've given them so much promo.
Ben's saying we.
Well, I won't be able to lie.
There is no we.
I won't be able to drive it, but you guys.
How do you think we'll be able to run?
Laws might be different in China.
They're giving me a 1500 horsepower.
Was it a denser?
Not that.
Zed.
Densers Zed.
You'll get a little bit.
Densers.
Zed.
Densers.
It's not.
I'm not going to call it great looking, but it's not bad.
As far as Chinese electric cars go, I'll take it.
You'll have one in the cloud.
I would pay for it, but if they want to give me one, I'll try it.
Ben's been swayed more like Benza.
Ben.
Whoa.
Ben.
You know what?
Let's hear back from you at some point or BID.
One of you guys.
Let's know.
There's going to be people listening to this podcast saying I didn't come here for electric
cars.
You've always hated them and now.
One of us.
All of a sudden, but hey, electric cars are interesting.
Did we talk about the value stuff before?
Yes.
Many times.
I've been looking at it.
It's mental.
They're like top high level Audi's that are cheap and they're like 34 years
old, but then I looked at the range and L.
It's quite funny how they advertise that stuff.
It says, but even like Audi, they say this car has a maximum range of 200 million miles
and then you look at people owning them and they go, yeah, mine's got four.
I've got 50,000 miles.
I'm struggling to get 100.
Mate.
Is it?
What is it around about 50% after five?
Some of them can't.
I think it depends.
I don't know what it do.
I'm assuming it's charging.
How you charge them.
Whether you charge that.
What can you, how do you prolong the life of a battery?
You knew about this, right?
It's between 20 and 80.
You don't ever want to do it fully or something.
The Hummer we had.
Oh yeah.
You don't want to limit it at 80.
Which is stupid.
Because all Hummer that when we rented, when we were in America was it wouldn't let us
charge above 80.
It was 80 or 85 and it went no more for me.
Thanks.
Which I find, I understand why, but I find it baffling.
It makes no sense.
So what do I do with the other 15%?
Yeah.
What you're saving it?
What for?
For when?
A rainy day.
If I'm still going to lose the back, it makes no sense.
It's like it just lied to me.
It's like 85 is 100.
It's like it's a car.
They go, it revs to nine.
We just put it to six and a half though.
Just like just don't.
I wouldn't use it.
I guess it's like, well, it's not quite the same.
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It's like how on your, what do you call that?
Not on Odometer.
Car rev gauge.
Where it will go up to 10.
Tacometer.
But your limiter is at eight or seven and a half.
But they wouldn't sell it.
They wouldn't do that on the fuel gauge.
Yeah.
They also wouldn't sell it as this car revs to 10.
And they go, by what?
They go, that's what the rev gauge says.
I guess actually on a fuel, no, even then, on a fuel gauge, you have a reserve and you
really, when you fill up, you could bloody hell, it's empty, but you still have 10 litres
left.
But still, just lie to me.
Just say it's 100.
Or 95 or whatever.
And I'd believe it.
Yeah.
I'd be totally, I have no way of proving that.
I can't get the tank out.
There's less electricity in there.
No, there's charging here.
Just me over touching all the terminals and seeing whether you get shocked.
Cause I'd rather call it the reserve or something.
That extra 15 is a reserve.
And I go, I might have to use that.
So yeah, I don't understand that.
Electric car people, owners, makers hook us up.
We know what we're talking about.
We know nothing.
Yeah.
Let's get, sorry.
You mentioned the Hummer in the US.
I want to, I want to add some impromptu creaming to the list, if possible.
I want to pitch the creamers this.
We are yet as, as a gang to rent a car from Monterey Car Week 26.
We are going there for the first time.
If anyone was wondering, last year we rented the electric Hummer.
We liked it, but I think maybe that didn't translate.
What made it called, didn't translate what, what in the video, what was.
Of course, but we're the biggest electric car outlet, you know, on the internet.
This is now called the E in cream.
It's electric cars, electric cars, rule electric every around cars are electric.
Actually, man.
Yeah.
I'm out of here.
Yeah.
The scene.
Now I get a couple of dens out there.
We'll drive those.
But in lieu of that, what should we drive?
Let's discuss it between us and then let's get the cremers comment down below.
What kind of vibe would you go for?
Well, because we've looked at Range Rovers.
We have just a few now.
We, before we had the Hummer, which is very tall.
I think we need something tall because when you're car spotting, you want to see above
traffic.
I think there is a, I think there is a, here we go.
The top gear.
Which?
The hotel.
That's bad.
If we could get that exported out, I think maybe they could reconstruct it from what's
at the bottom of the beach.
So what we liked about the Hummer was because we spent a lot of the time out there driving
around looking at cool cars.
Cause actually the best part about the tray is that there's just random cool stuff.
E92s, E80s, everywhere.
There are also like some, you'll see like an Enzo just driving down the road or F1
driving down the road.
So you want to be able to A, see it and B, if that thing's going, catch it.
I'll be catching everything.
So because the Hummer was so powerful and it was electric, the benefit of that was that
it was very quiet.
So you could hear the cars in the distance and we could zoom off other than the wind noise,
which was definitely the windscreen, which when you did more than five miles an hour,
it would go.
So because of that, that must be thought about.
Tall and fast and also interesting things I described myself as, I thought it's not
true.
I thought of something I'm going to try.
Here we go.
I will endeavor to try.
Okay.
Anyway, I'm going to reach out to every single manufacturer I can think of and I'm going
to say we are going to the quail.
They go, no, you're not.
She is going to the quail.
One of us is going to the quail.
What can we do here?
Every manufacturer.
And I'm just going to see how many go back to us.
Obviously they're like UK based.
What if, like I think, what if all of them say yes, we're going to have a car.
For every dead week, you know, we do, they do quite well for us in the past and driving
American cars on UK roads.
Sure.
Quite interesting.
I want to do the opposite.
I want to do driving to English cars in like Salinas.
I want like an MG midget and a and like a Morris minor, maybe a taco bell, maybe a flipper.
We need to bring a sea ab.
Great maneuverability flipper.
The flip.
Hey, we don't know.
We haven't bought it yet.
We don't know.
I don't really want to do that.
But it can be exported.
Can't it?
So what else could we get?
What can't cars be thinking?
I think something luxurious.
We've had the few that we found because we're basically looking on Churro so that we don't have,
there are like Suburbans and Grand Wagoneers that we can get from a normal rental, but on Churro.
Not sponsored, by the way, nothing like that.
We can, there are from looking, there's a Bentayga, which is quite funny.
I'd love that.
Bentayga.
Bentayga's funny.
Range Rovers, both.
Bentayga.
Elf, very nice.
Elf 405 and Elf 460.
That's the one.
Very good.
And the other thing there is, an F-150 Raptor lifted.
That is quite cool.
Now I like that.
That'll be quite cool.
There is also a Ford.
Ford are keen on us.
So we could drop them a little.
Again, that I'm not leaving any hints.
Three Ford GTs.
We've had a couple of Ford press cars.
They've invited us to some other things that we haven't gone to.
We're very sorry.
But perhaps you will be in my outreach for sure.
We'll, I'm going to get flagged a spam.
They're going to go, this guy again.
Can we get to Monterey?
Yeah, we know.
What can we get from Ford?
An F-150 for sure.
I think we should get an F-350 as well.
Three Mustangs.
What are you talking about, then?
We're not having multiple cars.
No, I'm just saying an ideal world.
Yeah, maybe a world.
And then I think a Mustang.
So we're renting this tiny apartment.
74 cars are outside.
No, three.
Three.
You want one each?
Three F-350s.
What is going on?
Just the big boys.
Also, you tell me you drive an F-350.
You act just a little shrew.
I would drive one in America.
No, you would not.
Sorry, what are the three cars you drive in the US?
Can you start from the most exciting to the least, please?
What was?
I drove two.
Right.
You drove three cars.
Two were other people's cars.
One was rented.
I drove two cars.
One was rented.
Think of Francisco, mate.
Your mate Francisco.
Francisco, who we rented a Chevy Traverse offer.
Very good.
He said to me, maybe next time we see each other,
I'll be in London.
I said to him, Francisco, I don't know who you are.
My favorite part of that is that he thinks he'll be renting a car off you when he comes to England.
Francisco, mate, have the GTD.
Have the GTD.
But your car, your car driving experience in the US.
Was a Chevy Traverse, which was...
That wasn't first though, right?
I think it was...
The first was a manual E-60M5, which I was terrified to drive.
Understandable.
Shout out, Peter.
The second one was a Chevy Traverse.
Understandable yet?
Which I then parked up at a gas station.
And I jumped into the Merce Lager.
I drove that.
Sometimes you've got to do that.
Yes.
Sometimes you just have to.
But I would be very nervous.
No, I drove a Merce Lager in the US.
Ben, you would not drive an F350.
Absolutely not.
But why would I drive a Merce Lager then?
Riddle me that.
Because you were forced into it.
Yes, fair.
And you had another person in the car, you know, so I feel like moral support.
Whereas on your own in a 350.
You're not doing it.
How big are they?
Yes.
Is it the biggest one?
Less large there.
But 350 like for customer type thing.
Right.
So might be two.
I just don't think you'd do it.
But I think we can get something.
Okay.
So we'll update you as this goes on our outreach to brands.
We're going to start with Bugatti.
I think after that, you know, when we've down the list.
That's the best loader, isn't it?
Forget Audi.
Audi.
Hey.
Whoever else.
Alpha.
Alpha.
Alpha.
Alpha.
Alpha.
Get a couple of 4Cs.
Not in production, I don't think.
We're going to get a 2C later and then you will have to deal with yourself, Ben.
We've thought about that before, Ben.
We did look there was a modified 911 turbo that was like 700 wheel horsepower and you'd
just be in the boot.
Well, I will say this right now.
If you want to do that, I'm honestly okay with that.
So you'll be in the front?
No, we'd have to get another car.
Oh, but if you get something actually cool, I will drive a Chevy Trivus or something.
Just.
Okay.
All right.
We'll have a look.
So if you are from a manufacturer, which you might be, I don't think we've ever had
anyone say they're from a manufacturer.
If you are, you know where to find them.
Yeah, just in Denzer's booth.
That's where we'll be.
Still not sponsored.
Mainly because we really need a car.
We haven't looked it.
Otherwise, it's a lot of Ubers.
Yeah.
It's not going to go well.
A lot of walking.
I'm very sorry that the next thing is also electric related.
Oh, God.
This is the next time.
This is the E podcast.
The Cree E-M podcast.
The E-Cream podcast.
So the Ferrari.
Whoa.
What's that brand then?
Oh, that.
Ferrari Luce or the Lucha, whatever you want to call it.
Ferrari's new electric thing.
I saw a video of Harry Metcalfe doing a sort of very brimful side.
Harry Metcalfe who makes very good videos.
I must say he's one of my favorite YouTubers.
Whether he'd ever come on our podcast, you might think we're a bunch of buffoons.
Quite possibly.
I think so.
I think you just think we're a bunch of silly boys.
But if you ever did come on the podcast, it would be very cool.
He got a little bit of time with the Lucha.
No driving or anything like that.
And my feelings haven't really changed.
The interior is exceptionally cool.
Apart from the odd moving screen in the middle, which feels like a sort of hospital bed type of thing.
But I kind of get where they're going.
But they've got some really cool, like some of the toggle switches.
They just look, they have thought about that at least.
But they were talking about something.
Everyone always says when an electric car or a hybrid comes out,
it's odd I had to do that.
I actually do that because of emissions.
Sometimes true, sometimes not.
But it looks like the Ferrari actually genuinely was.
So you said they're at a size now.
So they have to build, get the fleet emissions.
Ferrari's own success has come round and hit them in the backside.
Because they sell so many cars now.
And I think it's mainly related to EU sales.
So I can't remember how many, how many is they sell per year.
But if they go over 10,000 in the EU, the EU starts to go,
hang on a sec, your emissions need to come down, buddy.
You need to do something to reduce that or lower those emissions.
So the Ferrari, the luce is kind of a means to an end in a way of saying,
right, we still want to carry on doing the other stuff,
but we need something to bring that.
So I can understand it.
And if it genuinely is, that is the main reason.
Obviously they're going to push it and promote it and marked it.
That's something they love and it's made of.
It's passion and it's pure Ferrari.
But I was like, okay, meanwhile the people who work for Ferrari,
boring.
Then I can understand it.
Again, there is always,
you always have to look into it a little bit deeper sometimes.
It's like when Aston, the DBX and the Euro.
This one's just more annoying because it's electric.
The signet as well.
That's what the signet was there for.
They're to bring the emissions down.
So it's just more annoying because it's electric
and maybe they could have done something different with it.
I think that's some people's gripes that they could have done.
But then it isn't a five seater SUV thing.
But I guess if that gives more credence to the idea that it was potentially bought from Apple.
As a, his 50% of the work is already done.
Just run with that.
So we don't have to go through development of making a 296 electric.
Or doing anything about just push it out.
Some silly rich bastards will buy it and then off we go.
But there is a general consensus that it will
potentially prolong the life of things like the V12 and the V8 a little bit longer.
So worth it for that.
I have no interest in it really.
But you know what?
We will let you have that one Ferrari.
I'm still not interested in all their modern stuff, but they are still making an AV12.
Do you know what?
Which has to be appreciated.
I saw a photo on Instagram of the, I don't think it was a release, but it was a one in the flesh of a Testerosa.
I like it more.
The 849.
Is that what it's called?
849.
Testerosa, yeah.
I actually quite like the shape of it now.
I know that there's this thing where everyone goes,
someone on the internet made a render and it looks better.
And they do.
Like somehow everyone managed to make it look better.
And again, I assume that there is a reason why it can't.
There has to be a safety thing or a packaging cost.
I don't know.
But for what there are right now, because I'm not a fan of the 296.
I'm not a fan of, what's the other one?
No, I like the Tolstall injury, but like 296, I'm not a fan of.
I don't mind the Testerosa.
I'm quite excited to start seeing them come out in different specs.
The argument for it not looking like, obviously they used the Testerosa name.
Yeah.
And everyone said, why should I have side strength?
For instance, Testerosa.
What people forget is that Testerosa wasn't, that name wasn't used first on a Testerosa.
No.
That name was reused from what, 30 or so years, maybe even more.
Racecar.
From the original.
I think they had a space in the middle of that word.
Yeah, it was.
It was Testerosa, which comes from, I think it was to do with the cylinder heads or the
rocker covers or whatever being red, because it means red head.
So the same thing happened on the Testerosa.
On the Testerosa, everyone knows they used that name, which was used from many, many
years before.
So, and none of the design elements were carried over there.
It's completely different.
Yeah.
So, we call it a pontoon thing, where it looks like it's almost like they have two
different pontoons and sort of the body in the middle type thing.
Completely different car altogether, completely different designs.
So yeah, it's a little bit like, there is, there is an argument that Ferrari know more
about what they're doing than most people, than your average punter does.
Not saying they're doing everything perfect.
Because there's some of the stuff I think they've really missed on.
And maybe they go too much towards the nostalgia thing.
Maybe they didn't use the Testerosa name.
Maybe they could have used something else.
Some of it just feels like we need to set a car.
We slap a Testerosa name on it.
It's going to have some meaning at least.
But it has some, some will buy it because of that.
And the V8, I can't remember this from before.
The V8 and the Testerosa, that is a new V8?
I don't know if that's the same.
It's just an old version of the twin turbo.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I also like that.
I like that.
Obviously, it should be a V12, but it's great that it's not a V6.
I know that V6 is incredibly good.
Also, we're sitting on a sofa.
We've never driven any of these cars.
We're not trying to say that we're the authority on it.
But from anecdotally, I think it's cool that there is a V8 in it and not a V6.
Because I'm still not biggest fan of how they sound.
I know they do sound like a mini V12.
The V6?
Yeah, the Piccolo V12.
Piccolo V12, yeah.
But a V8's cool.
V8, V12's cool.
That's Ferrari for me.
So there we go.
That's electric news of the whole podcast.
The whole podcast, mostly electric, but not going to continue.
I'd say you heard it here second, unless that I think we're pretty up to date.
We talked about some V8's and some V6's at the end there.
I think some more interesting electric stuff.
I think so.
I think we've been impartial.
I think by Denzer.
Our boys at Denzer.
But willing to be bought out by Denzer.
We'll say whatever you need to.
Everyone has a price.
Rackets.
We're still going to talk shit.
Benjamin, we'll finish off on you.
Oh, fantastic.
You have a forum for us.
I do.
This is from Kurt Albert, who's mentioned me on Instagram.
He does an electric car have.
Talk about electric cars for a podcast.
Hello, Cream Lords.
Electric car question for you.
No, Jackie.
No, please don't.
I've got a foreign question for you.
I was driving home today and I saw a random Aventime, which is one of the few cars that
Clarks, Hammond and May all liked.
My question is, is there a car that all...
As in one of the only cars that they all liked.
No one...
Did they say that?
I thought it was the Mondeo, wasn't it?
The S2000.
The S2000 is one, 200 or something.
They all said they liked the S2000 from memory.
Was it a galant?
Yeah.
Something like that.
I'm so sorry, Kurt.
This is the sort of thing you've...
What was your question?
The question is, is there a car that all three of us like?
Let's say that they did like the Aventime.
Okay.
I like this question a lot.
We all like equally.
Good job, Mr. Cobain.
I'm going to go ahead and say...
What do we like?
I think there are lots of cars that we all like, but not that we're like, I would have
one of them.
What's the car that we'd all go and buy?
What's the entry point?
I think it's a...
You wouldn't have an L322.
I think it's a Denzer.
No, wouldn't do that.
If I'm honest.
Not yet.
I have a Ferrari Lucia, I think.
Ben, would you have an L322?
I like it.
You wouldn't.
I probably wouldn't buy one.
4.05?
4.60.
You wouldn't have a 4.05?
I would have a 4.05, especially after America.
I would use like them, but I don't...
This is a much easier game for me and Edwin's play than it is.
That's why it's so interesting question.
No update on my windscreen as of yet.
Haven't heard anything yet.
Still upset and waiting.
Surely there's...
They're just counting the cost again for all.
That's limitation surely runs after a while.
I don't think that's how it works.
Still outside the contracts, but sure.
Ben, L4.05, despite my windscreen debacle, I would love to own.
Also, I forgot to tell you this.
I found out this is an actual thing.
Also, it's great because I can say some of it.
I got when I got to the speed limit, let's say that on the motorway.
I was driving and everything fine, normal.
And suddenly...
And then it stopped.
And I was like, what the hell was that?
And then I tried accelerate again.
It went...
And it stopped.
And I was like, what?
And it sounded like a car's horn in the car.
It scared all of us.
Turns out there's a trim piece on L4.05s and apparently discoveries that when you're
facing the right direction where the wind's blowing across, you get to a certain speed,
it will make the loudest howling noise possible.
And it scared the piss out of me.
Is that loud?
It genuinely, like, definitely loud.
I want to see if there are any cremants that have ever experienced it.
And I looked up afterwards.
There are videos of it.
I'll see if I can find it quickly.
This is when we find out that that speed that it hits at is 190 miles an hour.
Definitely not that.
Definitely not that.
This is...
I've listened to it.
It's a quieter version of it, but it is kind of similar.
Kind of sounds like letting the balloon out.
Yeah.
Well, kind of similar.
But just out of nowhere at 100 decibels.
Really, really quite unnerving.
Bs in the car.
Yeah, no, I didn't have any at the time.
I think that's like a sum of bees.
That's a rough running bee.
I get your bee checked out if your bees sound like that.
Check service your bee.
So this is cars we all...
So we're going on cars we all buy.
Because I don't think the Top Gear question was cars they buy.
It's just ones that they like.
Yeah.
I do not see Dram Clarkson or Richard Hammond driving a Mondeo ST.
Fair.
Fair.
So it's one that we like.
But they could say they like it.
True.
But then I think we have quite a few.
There's many.
An SVJ.
Well, I like that.
I like it.
I wouldn't buy one.
Because you'd have an LP700.
I'd have...
I think I like the SV the most.
Oh, what would you have, William?
I would have an SV, yes.
Okay.
So we don't agree.
So we don't agree.
Yes, I guess it's then.
It's one that we all agree.
There's T's and C's there.
A spider for me.
A speciality for me.
Oh, well that...
I go for a coupé normal for me.
Well, there we go.
All three different versions.
Okay.
Let's go again.
I would say...
But then how far do you go?
Do you then say, well, the speciality you'd all agree on is pretty...
Well, not a lot of drivenness.
But still.
Let's do it as the one we want.
How do you...
I don't know the rules.
Let's do it as one we'd have then.
The one I like, the speciality is obviously the nicest one.
But if I was to just choose one to go for...
No, not driving.
I would drive a speciality.
Which one?
Yeah, see there we go.
And you would pick what?
One...
No, no, don't even tell me.
What?
Right.
So there is every type of 458 speciality in front of you.
Including...
Sorry, yeah.
For every type of 458.
Normal...
A coupe, a spider, or whatever it's called.
And then a speciality and then an a perta.
A speciality of a perta.
I'd be torn between a...
Rock and hard place.
Fair.
A normal coupe, a normal...
Reef.
See, I would choose a perta.
I forgot the the a perta existed.
What am I saying?
Or the spider?
I like that simple early look for me.
It's perhaps it's the fourth that you grew up with.
So there you go, look.
That's...
No, I'm not saying that a speciality isn't objectivity better.
No, no, no, no.
I don't understand.
Hold the horse.
Imagine the horse that's not moving.
It's held.
Okay.
This is what the whole point is.
We don't agree.
So we...
Stop.
Stop, stop.
Stop, stop.
We have to move on.
It's the one that I would have.
We have to...
That wasn't the question we have.
We have to move on because we didn't agree.
Okay, fine.
Porches.
I think Ben doesn't know the question.
That's my problem.
Is the lights on and no one...
Actually, no one's home.
Possibly in the house.
And we play it back in Ben's head.
All the cars are lined up.
Which one would you take for a spin?
Or which one do you like the most?
I like the 458 normal the most because...
Which one would you drive?
Someone said you can drive one of these cars once on this perfect day.
No, no, that's not the question.
Because that's relying on specifically driving.
You might like the way one looks versus the way one...
For me, the one that I'd have is a normal one.
I find that...
That's what I grew up with.
I know that's not the point of this argument, but that is mental.
No, I'm not saying it's not objectively better.
Not picking the speciality.
Shut up, Fred.
But then hold on.
Would you always choose the SVJ to drive?
No, I don't think there would be a big enough difference between the SVJ.
Then there you go.
Because there's not a big enough difference.
But how would you...
How do you quantify that?
Because that's not a big enough difference.
That's objective.
Okay, let's make it this.
It's the one you'd have.
Sorry, that's subjective, I'm a clown.
The one you'd have.
Because otherwise you're honing on a specific feature of it.
The 458 speciality I would happily admit is probably an objectively better car.
Right?
Probably might even look a little bit better objectively.
Sound better?
Yeah, possibly.
But for me, the one that I would like is a 458.
A GTR.
Oh, now this is...
I would have a...
I already know who's going to disagree on this.
I like them.
You like them, but you wouldn't...
I wouldn't spend my own money to buy one.
I go through phases.
Now, that's not true.
A spec V.
I like a lot.
Opel, midnight Opel with the spec V wheels I like.
What's that?
It would be a DB...
A DB...
That is a...
It's a DBA.
Yeah.
I would have the facelift on.
CBA.
CBA is what I like.
CBA is a spec V.
It's a 2012 order, right?
That would be...
Before lightning lights.
It'll be a DBA pre-lightning light.
Yeah.
That's what I like.
I'd have a facelift.
So there you go.
2017 one, yeah.
So we can't agree there.
Or have the newest one.
Do you...
But then if you go in there, do you then go R34, R32, R33?
Because then you would pick something else.
Oh, yeah.
If it's Skyline lineage, then I'm not going GTR.
I'm sorry, I'm not going R35.
I wouldn't care.
Evo's...
Pick an Evo.
What does...
I quite like our redacted Evo.
None of them.
I quite like a 10.
What the...
Oh, for God's sake.
Is that the one that's like square?
You like a...
Do I like that?
A 5?
What do we have?
A 5?
Well, we don't have any, of course.
But yeah, an Evo 5 is what we've got.
5 or 6 is a square, probably boxier, wide arches.
10 is...
Well, not for me.
I will show you the photo of a 10, Benjamin.
Here is a 10 out of 10, right there, up on the screen.
That, to me, is what I imagine as Evo.
Okay, so that's your...
If you...
No, I like the one we have.
What that is?
Yeah, but like that there.
I don't care.
I don't care.
No, I don't care.
I'm choosing...
Because you have to.
I'm picking my favourite kid.
I don't like any of my kids.
Crazy.
That one dude we met once can't say anything more than that.
What about 12 year old's favourite?
Just a little story we met once when he hated his children.
And yeah, we've always laughed about it because, wow, we're incredible.
Crazy.
So casually as well.
Yeah, just hate my kids.
All right, Veyron.
Ah, Yammers.
I'm having...
I'm having the original one.
You're having a super sport, aren't you?
I would prefer one of the nicer ones, but I could probably agree.
No.
I think I like the Grand Sports most.
I think I like a Grand Sport most.
I prefer the ones with the newer lights.
The newer lights are cooler, but I...
I don't know.
I'm happy with either.
It's difficult, isn't it?
When you start getting the Mercilago.
See, why would you know we're not great in there?
I think we're all three.
Well, if I had to have Y, I have an event store, but Y would actually have...
I had to have one is I would have...
I'd have an LP640.
Over an SV?
Yeah.
Oh, interesting.
I don't actually like the way the SV looks that much.
I think it's a little bit long and weird.
Okay, so Ben and I and Team 640...
Enjoy.
I would be not...
I would be 16.
No, I wouldn't have one.
Don't like it.
Yeah, but Andrew has to come out, doesn't it?
Won't bother.
Okay, what about 9-Elevens?
Oh, God.
They lost will.
So you don't want one?
I wouldn't ever...
I just...
I haven't...
No.
I wouldn't own Kaya and I, but I don't...
Famously, not a 9-Eleven, but good job.
No, I'm thinking of different cars.
There's one 9-Eleven...
One series of 9-Elevens I'd have, and it'd be some of the GT1s.
So if I could pick one, I'd go with a...
991 GT3.
Maybe the 9...
Was it a 2?
I don't care.
The current one?
Touring.
991.2 touring?
The touring, yeah.
Or the SC.
I actually like the sound of that.
The SC is the one I'd probably pick.
That's 9-2.
Yeah.
What would you have?
Same thing.
964 or 993 or 996 GT2?
I don't know, 996.4, but back date it.
Yeah, that's a singer.
You'd have a singer.
No.
I bet that's a different brand.
Yeah.
No, I have that.
I have...
But that is one.
Or I'd have a 991.2 GT3.
Okay.
There you go.
So no agreement then.
But...
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Now you're only modifying to the...
Yeah, which is not allowed.
So I'm saying that's not allowed.
You've got to keep that...
The card out of the box.
If I can't have that, it's a 991.2.
Does that change any of your other answers?
No.
No?
No?
No, not one.
No, because I would only...
I would only absolutely slam on normal Bugatti.
That would be fair.
It probably would maybe change it for Skyline.
Then I would probably be back in a GTR in an R35.
If I had to keep them stock.
If I had to keep them stock, R35 is probably not bad.
Surely we all agree on an F40.
We all like that.
Yeah, we do.
But then if we're using the same thing we've talked about before,
would you then pick an F50 or an Enzo?
It's the same...
But I guess now we're getting detached because it was originally just a...
Do you like this?
F40 I would go with, yeah.
That's one.
Yeah.
Okay, so that's a no.
That's a no for me.
Not enough for me to be like, yeah, we all really like that car.
I can appreciate it.
An Enzo.
What gets you a little thing called going?
I like to...
Listen, it's this car you grew up with.
It's a good lump.
So you want...
Like a LaFerrari would be probably cool.
Whereas I just don't care about them at all.
I'd love to have a spinning one.
I like the LaFerrari.
Not a controversial statement.
Look, I know this is a bit out there.
I'd love to try one.
I'd love to try one.
If I was putting together a team of cars, a collection, it wouldn't be the first in there.
Sure, if I was a Scurrio billionaire, I'd go have a LaFerrari in there.
But yeah, not for me.
You're the sticking point here, Ben.
Well, that's why it's an interesting question because we're all very different.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I've got one.
Done.
I have one.
Say it then.
The Renault Clio 182.
Fantastic.
Absolutely.
Would it probably be that?
Would you have a 172 though?
No, a 182 is where my heart lies.
Is it?
Because I have my original one was a black gold car.
I prefer the way a Phase 1 looks.
But as a car, just an out-of-the-box car, 182 all that.
So it's the Renault 182?
Do you like a 200 though?
More than a 182.
But again, if I was to...
If the 200 or a 197 didn't exist, I'd be happy with a 182.
I just like the way it looks.
It makes me happy.
I've said that you got offered your blue 182 back recently and you were really upset that
you...
He then said no.
You couldn't get that back, whereas you got offered the 200 back, right?
I haven't been offered that back.
Oh, I thought...
Only the blue car.
I got edged.
I thought you said...
I thought that there was a...
No.
I remember that 200.
The yellow car still...
I do regret selling that car.
But would you be as upset about not being able to get it back as the blue car?
No.
So the blue car...
Because there is an attachment to that car.
So there it is.
I've been looking at other 182s recently and they're not him.
I know.
I know.
And if you know, you know car.
Yeah.
Volvo V70.
You like it.
I'd like that, yeah.
I like it.
And I know you like them.
I like it.
I haven't got much feelings.
I have an S60.
Same chassis.
Same car.
That's odd.
You're an odd human.
This is a tough game.
I like the game, but I find the game frustrating.
We won it.
Is it a 182?
Yeah, I guess it is.
182.
Then what BMWs do you feel things towards?
I really...
I looked the other day.
I looked for the one of the first times at potentially financing a car.
I won't do it.
But I looked the first of it.
You lost a 340i.
Daily, but I looked at an OGM2.
Wow.
Really?
To see how much that will be on the old monthlys.
And then I closed my computer after I found out.
I feel less to them.
I like them.
I like a competition quite a bit more, but I used to really like M2s a lot.
But I don't know.
I've been around a few now and I don't feel as much towards them.
They're also another car that...
They are amazing out the box and they will be like a standard.
It will be, but it's a car that needs too many little changes to make it how I'd want it.
So you mean whenever I see that, wow.
Nothing.
You do nothing.
No, it's a car that I would really...
It's what I would really, really like to own one.
And the first gen sounds and the OGM sounds better.
It does sound better.
I will admit that fully.
Right.
We're going to run through some cars.
Audi R8, gen one.
A V8 or a V10?
That's a question for you.
I love a V10.
I love a V10.
Astronic.
Yeah.
Can you get a manual V10?
Yes.
I love manual.
I can't feel much to them as much, but I do like it.
If we're getting down to gearbox...
Just as a car.
Just as a car.
Gen one, R8.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's an okay.
That's not...
I quite like...
Mark IV Supra.
I don't feel anything.
Wow.
Crazy.
I'm okay on it.
I'm not crazy into it.
Amira.
Yeah.
Yes.
Oh, man.
What's up with you?
For that much money.
I could have so much fighting with you.
I believe you.
McLaren F1.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So now, you know, if you were to say no, there would be punching.
So it had a has to be.
Also, a rare occasion when if you said no and it was your opinion, you would be wrong.
2005 Ford GT.
Big yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So well, yeah.
I would be a yes.
I'm a yes.
Oh, I thought for a minute you'd say you were saying, eh?
No.
I'm quite neutral to it there for probably a guess.
No.
NSX.
First gen.
I like the one that we drove.
That's a hard one.
I'd say no.
I'd say no.
I still like them, but I never drove that car.
I love how it looks.
Did I drive that car?
I can't remember.
I don't think so.
I don't think I did.
I do think about that driving experience of regularly though.
The Ford Model T.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
I actually, I would like to keep that.
Yeah, I do.
I would never like to own one, but I did love driving it.
It was quite funny.
I want to drive something like that, but that has normal pedals.
Jaguar E-Type.
I, yeah, obviously there are specifics to that.
Like what kind of E-Type?
Yeah.
I don't like them.
You know what?
They, I go through phases where I do like less and more, but I just hate how far in
board the wheels are.
I was going to say the same thing.
I know it's correct, but...
See, I don't mind it on that.
It's a specific area.
It's the same as a mural, like that era of car.
They kind of look like that.
Also, my turn...
Same as an original Contas.
They look like that.
The width of wheel you could fit in that arch.
It's like a 12J and that.
Lower it.
A DB5.
I'm, yeah, I love a DB5.
A lot of it is James Bond.
Yeah.
Still.
I like it, but...
I could take it or leave it.
It's not for me.
Whereas like a 250 California from Ferris wheelers, they're off.
That's my guy.
That's my movie car.
A Mustang.
Like a GT500, a Shelby.
Like an old one.
60s.
I know.
Let's say a more modern one.
Look at Ben's...
Look at Ben's lit.
2000s.
Ben was sneering.
I could take it.
Was it a GT350?
So you could later one.
Yeah.
I could take that.
It looked cool, but then the newer 500 I wouldn't take.
So you don't, so you like the GT350?
That's the only one I like.
I do kind of like them, but I'm not huge on them.
Or by like a 67?
If it was old, yeah.
60s I would be sure.
I'm there, but not on Notchback because that's weak.
Yeah.
Especially in green.
A, what do you call them?
What's a Yesco?
Absolutely.
So that's a big...
I don't, I'm not a fan.
It's a car because...
Like the LaFrarre.
I'd love to drive.
Yeah.
Because for me, a CCX or a CCXR.
And a Gara.
Don't like it.
I'm going to say something.
I actively dislike how they look.
That's wrong.
A Gara.
I don't like that front end.
But that's a modern version of what you like.
Exactly.
I don't like it.
The front lights don't look good.
They look like Hyundai's.
Ah, yes.
The famous Hyundai.
No, the light, the shape of the light, the inner light.
It's got like a weird daylight running light.
A Zonda.
Yeah, I was going to say Zonda's in there.
I can't believe you right now.
Oh, no, no.
I'd go Huayra over as on that.
Oh, that's tough.
Hold on.
I think I've got it.
I think I've got one.
P1.
P1, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that wasn't strong enough.
But that wasn't a beef strong enough.
But P1, P1, the choice has to be made.
It's your Holy 20s car.
Did you say P1 before?
No, you're in 18.
No, I never was P1.
But in my, in my late years.
Bad racing drivers.
In my late years, i.e. 20s.
I now like a P1 more.
So you have P1.
I used to like a 918 more.
So in, if a little us agreeing on the Holy 20, we'd say P1.
I'd say so.
So P1, because Ferrari F14 and 180.
So if we could just get those together.
It's seeing a P1 in real life that if me, I've never seen any of them in real life.
I saw a P1.
I've seen all of them in real life.
And the P1 is that sits so well.
A Valkyrie.
No, we don't care.
I like it, but I don't, I don't like how it looks.
I respect and appreciate it because it's, it's so different to other things.
Why was a few years ago?
I think it still is compared to some.
Yeah, but, but then now like there's other cars that are doing a similar stuff.
I understand it was a bit of a disappointment or whatever.
What it was meant to be, but they look apeshit.
Yeah.
And E92 M3.
Oh yeah.
Especially in Monterrey.
That was actually quite a,
I'd love one of those.
That was quite a positive from Ben.
So I'd say I put an E92 M3 on.
I'd actually love one.
So that's three.
There's no equivalent M3 you'd have.
I, you have an F80.
No, I'd have a E92 over an F80.
But I would still have an M2 OG over.
Right.
So it's a bit in M3 territory.
Slight,
Slight spanner in the works.
I would have an E90.
Okay.
Over a coupé.
You want long boy.
Not long,
Not technically longer.
Just more doors.
If anything shorter.
It's like the shape, the stubby rear.
90's shorter.
Here's the stubby rear, Annus.
I'm pretty sure,
I'm pretty sure they're shorter because the actual exhaust would poke out further on an,
on a 90 if you put a night to exhaust on.
That may well be the other way around, but I think that's stubby.
LFA?
Yeah, I'll have one of those.
I don't feel anything towards LFA.
It's the most overrated sounding car on planet Earth.
Well, you've heard one in person though.
So most people haven't, but you have.
And even though I hope, like, just, I, they sound,
I'm not saying they sound bad.
I just don't think they are the,
I think it's a Clarksonism.
Fair.
Possibly fair, but I love how they look.
I've always liked how they look.
I despised the way it looks.
Really?
It looks like a, it looks like a Lexus.
Well, you don't like, also you don't like the bonnet shot, right?
You don't like that.
The bonnet, the gap, that I don't like, but also just the rear end.
It looks like an E36 compact.
It's kind of true.
That's actually fair.
He's got a really tall rear end.
So I'd say it's a very good forum question.
First of all, we've got the Clarenf one.
We've got McLaren F1.
Yeah.
And then there's the Clarenf 3.
And Clarenf 1.8.2.
Clarenf 40.
No, F40 wasn't in there.
Sorry.
That's, that's coming.
That's, that's feeling Evo.
That's feeling piston heads.
You know, you know, there's only three cars that you need in the soil.
It's a Clarenf 1.8.2.
A Clarenf 1.8.2.
And 3.
Think about it.
The Clarenf 1.8.2 is the thinking man's.
Do you know what this is?
P1.
This is not the thinking man's list.
No.
This is the popular man's list.
Yeah.
This is what logical people go for.
And then thinking men go,
I would choose in my list a Renault Spass Mark 1.
No shade to Robin.
A Kia Sedona from America only USDM market.
And then a Hyundai iX35 because they're really the thinking man's sports car.
We haven't put any dailies in there like normal cars,
which people will probably turn their noses up and go,
wow, all you have in there.
Apart from the 1.8.2.
Mark 1 Ford Focus.
Normal.
I do not care.
How do you play that?
Because I'd have an RS.
Of course, but I'm just talking about normal.
Because I like that.
I like it.
I like seeing them.
I like the feel of them.
Mark 4 Golf.
You will know when I think about it.
Mark 4 Golf.
Okay.
Mark 6 Fiesta.
Don't care.
And do you know what Ben?
Didn't ask either.
330D.
No, I don't like it.
I have a bone to pick with this.
330Ds are cars from moving from one place to another,
but they have this weird cult following.
It's the same with like 330Is where it's like,
oh my God, they're actually, it's the thinking man's M3.
Or it's the rather it's a car and you can map them
and you can do really cool things with them.
I'm not trying to take away from that.
And they're very cool dailies, but there's this way.
It's kind of MX5 where it's like,
I wouldn't have anything else.
It's, oh, it's so cool.
It's just a good car.
It's the ultimate car.
Yeah, it's not.
It's a car.
It's a car.
M57 people, which is the engine in a 3-A-T,
that era of E46 and E92 or 90 where it is,
they, they're bordering on the pedophiles.
Sorry, when we say that PDD files,
that's a PD engine in a Volkswagen.
Yeah, no, fair.
I 100% agree.
E53X5.
I was about to say the same thing.
I think we've got, we have to agree on that.
Yeah.
With an M57, the best engine.
You know what?
That's what mine had.
Side notes.
Sorry, I had a petrol.
Side note, I saw a fantastic E53 this morning.
Usually wonderful.
And that has confirmed my decision.
It was a 4.8, I think.
Lovely.
On with the wide arches, you know, the Le Mans kit,
whatever else, on Alpenas.
The fact, yeah.
Truly one of the most stupendous looks for any automobile.
I like that.
You know what?
Great one to end on.
So there's our final edition.
Basically a third BMW, if you count the McLaren F1.
Yes.
Engine bay.
So lovely.
I think that's very good.
I want to comment on the comments without some of our decisions.
And we'll see you next week, as always, for that 90th.
No, 90th.
That's a bloody 10 off 100.
We're approaching the big 1.0.
Almost.
No, more than that.
1.00.
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The crew gears up for an epic road trip to the Nurburgring, but first, they need to buy and modify a budget track car in just four days. Ben shares his anxiety about driving abroad and tackling his first-ever lap on the Green Hell. Meanwhile, the guys debate the merits of Ben's air-con-less Volkswagen Golf, test out its unexpected launch control, and discuss their strategy for hunting down cheap Audi TTs.
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