Here we are a year and a half later, roughly since the last time I was here at the shop.
We talked a lot about Vipers last time.
Now I want to talk about Lamborghinis because about a month or two ago, you just had this
awesome outing at the half mile.
Where are we at with the Lambos now?
So we never planned on getting into that platform.
What we started to do was build engines for other shops.
I did a few motors for Sheepie.
He was pretty happy with them.
I did a motor for Jeremy at EDI.
And the car wound up going to Tony's to get a MoTeC put on it.
Tony T1 Tony?
Yep, T1 Tony.
Tony was like, the motor was great.
Awesome oil pressure.
Made 1,700 in change.
And we didn't get any recognition for the engines.
So my business partner in Florida,
I needed a tax write off last year and I bought a Perfomante and had it for the time I needed
to keep it.
And then Dave, who's my business partner here in the machine shop in the Florida deal,
really loved the color and everything.
And for me to build that car while I was trying to do like five other things and all this
stuff, I said, I'm not going to have the time.
And he goes, well, why don't I buy it from you?
You give me cost on parts and I'll do all the labor.
So I did all the labor on the car.
I didn't, you know, I wrote it off as R&D, right?
And then he got parts at cost and we built the car and it was our second
transmission build, full PPG, everything.
Oh, that's right.
Because you were working on that at the time too, right?
Yeah, we were working on getting the PPG exclusive.
Like what we would like to do is build motors and transmissions for shops.
I think there's a very big void in today's market with good quality engine and
transmission builds.
Okay.
Honestly, I think there's like three people, maybe four people I would
trust to build the DL 800.
Obviously, Hefner is King Dick about it, AIM performance.
AMS is, you know, on the forefront of that and SHEP, obviously,
because SHEP's been around forever.
But, you know, what we started to realize was a lot of these people would just
try to get parts and slap them together.
They never took the time to really learn like, hey, what should I torque
my ring and pinion to?
Or, hey, I need to set the pattern correctly, you know, and the dots and
shims that come with the kit are close, but they're not perfect.
And then I just see people that slap them in.
You know, Hime has been doing all of our gear stuff since the beginning,
since 2013.
You know, with the Tremac stuff, we've always had great luck.
Us and PPG have always had a great relationship.
I went to Dotson, Dotson wouldn't make me a dealer.
And, you know, I was talking to Hefner about building transmissions for us,
for the program here.
And, you know, me and my guys sat down and they said, like, what's going to happen
if we need to rebuild a transmission at the track?
What's going to happen if we need to, in the middle of the night, build a
transmission, right?
And they're like, we've never outsourced anything.
And that's when I went to PPG and I said, Hey, what's it going to take to get
gear sets and be your US distributor on the DL 800 stuff?
And they said, well, precision started that whole thing.
So you have to buy precision.
So we did the big buy in with precision, precision racing in Australia.
And we are now the US dealer for PPG on the DL 800 stuff.
The sequential stuff we've always kind of been like, they're big go-to people
here in the United States already.
But, yeah, it's we love building the cars, but we love going racing.
So and we've kind of the last two years have been like, we've had the best
group of racers and it's been the most fun.
And to try to build 20, 30 cars a year plus going racing is too difficult.
Right?
You just don't have the manpower or the time.
The race cars need a lot of attention.
The guys always want to, you know, if they hit their personal best,
I want to beat my personal best.
Let's reinvent the wheel again.
But can you do it in six weeks?
You know, so, you know, between TX2K in 2025, there was, I think,
five half mile events, right?
This year, they knocked it down to four.
And unfortunately, the one in like a week was canceled for, I guess,
the FFA or FAA, whatever it's called.
Said they didn't want anybody running on the track.
But that's what we like to do.
That's where our fun is.
So we, what we're trying to do is we started a gear company and we're
working with Pure and Rob Bonafonte on building us gears.
We're, what we would like to do is be able to sell gear sets for Tremac,
DL800, eventually come out with our own dog box transmissions and sequentials.
Okay.
That, you know, Jaime will be heading that whole department and company.
We want to be able to sell clutches.
So we've already have our own prototype Viper clutches.
And we're kind of trying to start pushing them into the super world with Sterling's
car. I don't know if you saw that super that made 2000 wheel on our dyno.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
So like we did the motor in that car.
It's Dart Block, Brian Crower, you know, Brian Crower crank, Diamond pistons,
extreme cylinder heads did the head on it.
So uni seat head, R and R rods and stuff.
That, that all came from Sterling.
He provided all those parts and we put them together.
I dry decked the engine myself, you know, we firing it.
But real quick, so it sounds like you're just trying to get into, correct me if I'm
wrong, into like the parts game then.
Motor and transmissions.
Motor and more, more drivetrain stuff because I think that's the biggest void
in the market because it's the hardest thing to do.
You know, there's a lot of parts manufacturers, boost logic, AMS, Jintani,
you know, you can go down the list of you need something you can buy it and not
just for the Huracan R8 platform, it's pretty much there for everything, right?
So what's the missing void is transmissions, differentials, gears and, you know,
Rob Bonafonte probably has one of the, he has a patent on, I'm not really sure what
he does and I don't know how in depth I can go with this, but in the 90s, he helped
the Boeing with the 747 engines.
Okay.
They were having some issues with them and.
That's on an Airbus guy.
That's on an Airbus guy.
But, but yeah, so he helped Boeing and while he was helping Boeing in the 90s with
this, he patented, so I don't know if it's a heat treat or I don't know, he's not
allowed to tell me.
Okay.
But he took that same technology and he's putting it into his gears and where Rob is
most known is the Nitro Funny Car stuff for their direct drive shafts.
So they were breaking the shafts every eight to 10 passes with his shafts are
going 100 passes.
Okay.
So we're taking that same stuff and putting it towards the gears to just make a
much stronger gear.
You know, I know like PPG has been so good to us.
We've had a long, long lasting working relationship with them and you know, there's
going to be different tiers of gear sets, you know, for, we'd like to sell it all.
If you want us to build you a transmission, we can build it, but we'd like to sell
shops gear sets for the DL 800s and let them try to build them themselves where we
build them for you.
And it's another option on the, you know, in the market.
Right.
Yes.
Okay.
Well, the key thing that you said earlier is like, if you want to rebuild it at the
track, right?
Because if you're turning things up, especially like Texas 2K or something,
there's what five days of qualifying.
That's correct.
Yeah.
So you, you have a few days to, you know, the reality is some people think you can
build a DL 800 like overnight.
You can do that with a Tremac or a Turbo 400, but the DL 800s require, I mean, by
the time you pull the trans out, tear it down, clean everything, put it together.
It's a four or five day deal.
Um, you're not going to do it right in one day.
It's just impossible.
We'll talk about that as well.
Cause like you were giving us a little bit of a tour of your, you know,
brand spanking you a machine shop over here and you were showing us some of these
Lambo engines.
How different is that compared to working on a Viper engine?
They both have their own, um, complications.
Uh, the Viper engine, the block is incredible.
Um, I mean, we've made 3,800 wheel on the stock block, right?
Like stock casting.
Um, if you want later in the home, we have the billet block over there.
You can see it for the Viper block, but like it wasn't needed yet.
Um, the reality was, but now that we have it, you know, for Briccio's car,
estimate was about 43, 4,400 on that pull that it destroyed the, uh, the
torque converter bolts, um, on methanol.
So we were just based off the 26 gallons a minute of methanol we were using.
So, um, but, uh, um,
to have the knowledge of the transmission for the DL 800, I think is the,
the most important thing to diagnose something at the track, but Viper versus
Lambo, um, the Lambo is just, it's like a Swiss watch.
You can't forget one piece, right?
You cannot, it is very, and it's not complicated.
Once you have done like a few of them, there's just a lot of moving parts.
Um, and you once again, have to understand really the way an engine works.
It's the two J's are like so easy and people still screw them up.
Yeah.
You know, um, the Viper, it's not the assembly side that takes a long time.
It's the, the machining and knowing what is the like 20 little things you have
to do to get them to live.
You know, the, the Lambo is if you just cross your T's and dot your eyes,
the work, you know, um, it's a very, very, very good engine.
Like I said, a Swiss right out the box straight out the box.
Incredible engine.
Like, you know, I always go back to, uh, the Viper was a 90% car.
It was 90% awesome.
And that last 10% dodge fucked up the quality control beyond belief.
Um, when you have in your factory service manual, the main bearing clearance being
one and a half to three thousandths, that's double.
Right.
Like, so you're telling me I can double my clearance and still be with inspect.
That's insane.
Like Lamborghini gives you five different main bearings to make sure that it's
perfect.
Yeah.
You know, the Viper has one and then the cranks, you can have five cranks that
come brand new from Dodge and none of them are the same size.
Unfortunately, you know, so it's that's, that's the thing, like same thing, not
getting too much into detail, but like the Vipers were the gen fives had this
really bad issue where the cams would stick in the middle of the bore and like
snap the timing chains off them and then the blocks were junk.
So like we go in and what we started noticing was, was multiple things.
Um, uh, the cam tunnels weren't always straight.
They were very, very tight clearance that didn't need to be.
And, uh, the Viper has no cam bearing, so it rides on aluminum.
So you have this, you know, steel cam riding on aluminum.
What could go wrong?
Right.
Right.
So, um, the cams, if you looked at the, the journals on them, the heat
treat with the copper coat sometimes would be a little bit stick protruding over
the actual, uh, journal, like on the side.
So like we go in, we have to cut the side, you know, I'll just chamfer
the cam on the lathe and, um, the, uh, the front journal on the Viper is larger
than the rest.
So you can't hone that front journal.
So we'll go in hone it, use a, a bearing knife, you know, try to deburr the inside
of the bores or the housing bore, the best you can.
And then, um, we'll put the cam in the lathe and cut the front journal.
Uh, you know, sometimes you're cutting 23 tenths of a thousand
soft to get the, you know, and it's, it's very, very difficult.
I've fucked up a few camshafts doing it myself.
So.
Well, this sounds very easy for anybody to just do in a garage at home then, right?
Just anybody can do a twin turbo Viper.
Yeah.
It's just, it's just a big dumb VA with two extra cylinders.
Right.
Like anybody can do it.
Right.
And it's, it's not like, yeah, you can get it to live.
Like, and you have all these other shops that try to jump in this and like,
cause they see like what me and Enthmodo charge and, um, we're not getting rich
building vipers that that's for sure.
Um, you have an okay life, you know, but there's, we're not, you see a $400,000
build me and Aaron were actually talking about this the other day.
We're joking about it.
It's like, yeah, we might make 70 grand off that and somebody, oh, you made 70
grand, but what's 70 grand that took four months?
You know what I'm saying?
We're better off doing like McLaren oil changes.
You know, like that's the reality of it.
You know, with, um, but, uh, um, yeah, it's the Lambo engine is, is a fantastic
engine.
It's just, it takes somebody with a, um, OCD attention to detail, um, to get them
right.
What surprised you when you started jumping into that platform, did anything
kind of just be like, Oh shit, like this is how many people try to put these
things together that are absolute fucking idiots.
When you get to a certain level in a build, whether it be drag racing or
drifting, road course, or just the badass street car, you'll have to upgrade
your transmission.
And when we're talking sequential transmissions, there's no one on the
planet would have stronger gearbox than six XD.
And the proof is in the pudding here, folks.
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Let's get back to the show.
Okay, that should not be touching these things.
That's the reality of it.
There are a ton of shops out there that are, you know, and they're, they're not bad
people, right?
They just don't know or they're, they're learning, but they don't have the
experience with other things to be jumping into something like that.
And, you know, the first we've done like three or four transmissions now and
both like all of them have not had any issues.
Um, we were very surprised.
Like the first one actually, we were really scared that, um, it wouldn't do it.
Uh, in the Ross tech, it wouldn't do the clutch relearn.
And I was trying it and it.
And actually it was cheapy.
That was like, man, try moving the car forward, like three feet and backwards,
four feet, boom, took the transmission.
We learned just like that.
And then the one on the perf it took it instantly.
And he's like, yeah, sometimes you just got to drive him around like that.
Or, you know, this that like the, the old temp has to be 165 degrees or
something before you do the relearn.
So you got to go drive the car for 30 minutes to get it like that.
You know, um, it has to be on level ground.
It has to be, there's, there's all these like little things, you know, um,
fortunately, you know, uh, sheepy has actually, believe it or not, given us a
lot of advice, uh, AMS has helped us out with a bunch of stuff.
So like we were lucky to have kind of some people guide us a little bit, but
precision obviously helped us a ton because we're buying their gear sets and
they wanted us to, you know, make sure we do a good job.
Um, but, uh, but yeah, it's, you know, you just see the work from other people.
Um, I got quite a few cars.
You saw the warehouse over here full of Lamborghinis and our eights.
And, and it's just like, man, you know, it's, it's, it's tough to like
without calling people out to talk about it.
If that makes sense.
No, that's fair.
One of the things I was talking about with Tony yesterday on the podcast,
which is will be one week when the stairs, but whatever.
Um, how heavy are you on collaboration in this industry?
You just mentioned AMS.
You just mentioned sheepy.
Are you big on collaborating with other shops then?
I think the best way to grow is work with other like minded individuals.
Um, Tony's a good friend of mine.
Actually, we were just talking him and I the other night.
Um, uh, some engine stuff.
Uh, and you know, I was talking to him, I'm putting my car together and I want
to put it on a methanol and I noticed he had a mechanical fuel pump in, in a
picture and I'm like, Hey, is that, is that a T one product for sale?
And he's like, not really, but for you, you know, we'd let's do something.
Like I know, you know, it's when you get a bunch of, I'm going to say
intelligent people in the same, in the same circle.
You all want to help each other out because you all want to help each other out.
In the same circle, you all want to help each other out because you all want
to see everybody grow.
Um, and that's, you know, I buy all my injectors from Tony.
So like Tony makes a ton of money off and I'm probably the little guy in his boat.
But like, you know, before everybody was doing V10 stuff, I was the only me and
Thmodo underground and a few others, you know, in 2015, 2016, 2017, I was putting
20 injectors in these cars.
So, you know, Tony, I would have to buy a set ID 1700s and a set ID 2600s.
You know, that was a, that was a what?
$7,000, $8,000, no, a $6,000 purchase per, per injector, you know, so, um, or per,
per car, you know, so for, for us, that was a big thing.
Now everybody's doing the V10 stuff.
So we've kind of fallen back, but I, you know, um, I've known Tony.
God man, I remember boxing his, his manifolds up at full race when I was in
college as a shipping kid there, you know, six.
So like, uh, you know, I've known Tony for, for a long time.
You know, he's always been a great dude.
So, you know, he's one of the best.
You can't dude smart as shit, you know.
Yeah.
I had a yesterday was my first time meeting him.
It was a thousand.
I cannot wait to air it out.
So that was such an awesome conversation.
Um, when you got into the lambos, was it easier or harder than you expected?
Dealing with all the electronic corks, right?
The Viper is, um, even though it's got like can boss, body control module,
XYZ, you know, it's still a manual transmission car that is, it's a dumb car.
Right.
Like it's not the hardest thing in the world to figure out.
Um, also having Jaime and Tim that were certified Mopartex and Jaime was
trained in the Gen 5 Viper.
Right.
So like that was, that was a jump ahead of everybody in 2014 right there.
Um, the lambos have a lot of electronics.
Um, you know, some of it is a pain in the ass.
Some of it, you know, just, I feel like once we started doing like the way we do
things on like the third or fourth car, it got a lot easier for us.
Okay.
You know, there was definitely a learning curve as if there's everything.
But like I said, like, you know, um, we were, we were very, um, lucky that we had
some good people to help us.
Tony, Cody Phillips was, you know, he was a great tuner.
It was a new platform for him.
You know, um, like I said, Tony and sheep have helped us in China, sort some stuff.
So we, uh, we were very fortunate in that.
And you know, we've had pretty good luck.
I mean that, that perf, we finished it for Abilene, um, in October at eight o'clock
in the morning.
Oh yeah.
I remember seeing that.
Yeah.
I didn't drive the car.
I loaded it in the trailer and we said, we'll fucking finish it at the track.
You know, we didn't.
Uh, and then it's, it's third or fourth pass.
We, there was something.
So we built a, uh, a complete harness for the car.
So it doesn't have like the ugly MoTeC one to ones.
It's a full mil spec harness that Cody did, um, front to back and, um, something in the,
uh, something didn't get pinned properly for the auto shift.
So we were trying to get it to auto shift and it won.
And then you would hit the paddle and Dave was hitting the paddle just as the
MoTeC was trying to auto shift it and it was like wiggling something out.
So finally on Sunday, we realized, Hey, take the auto shift cause I took it for a
pass and I was short shifting it and it was shifting fine.
And then I just let it eat seventh.
Um, very, very low boost.
The car went like 209 or something without even trying.
Um, and then we said, okay, why don't we bring that auto shift where it's supposed
to auto shift, turn it off and then just bring the limit where it shifts like 15,000
RPM or something.
So it was way out of the way.
And then all of a sudden the car went to 25, it's, it's third full pass.
Um, and then unfortunately, um, that guy Greg passed away, so we couldn't do anymore.
We were just getting the ball rolling on Sunday with the car.
So then we brought it back.
We worked out all the little kinks that we had in it.
It made 2330 like hot.
Um, and we kept creeping up on boost, like on the street, turning it up a little bit,
turning it up a little bit.
And I think it's probably around 24, 2500 and it's, it's got, I mean,
between Abilene and Hondo, I'm going to say 35 half mile passes on it.
Um, it was super dead consistent to 26 to 232 in Hondo.
Um, the track conditions weren't the greatest there.
It was raining on and off.
And then Sunday, um, when we hit that 232, we were pretty happy.
And on Sunday we cranked it up and it started to rain.
So we waited for the rain to stop and the track just wasn't there.
And the car was like all over the place.
But we, we turned it up another 10 pounds over that 2300.
Dave was like, Hey, we got a billet block going together.
If it breaks, it's Sunday.
Who cares?
Right.
Um, and we just didn't, unfortunately, we didn't get to, to see the, uh, the
fruits of our turning up the boost, you know, um, so billet blocks on going
that car then?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yep.
Yep.
We got a buddy of mine, uh, designed his own billet block.
Um, we're going to be testing it in there.
He's got a few, few people already, um, running it.
His brother works over at a all and I'll be racing and has one in his car that
he's been testing for a while.
So, okay.
Um, we got some, uh, we're working with hearts turbos.
Oh yeah.
Yep.
So we got some hearts going on at some, some big turbos.
That's a name that's really been popping up the last few years I've noticed.
Um, Dave, I was talking to Troy over at Eminem the other day and you know, we
were saying how we use like zonas on stuff.
And I've tried the new turbo smarts and they were awesome and we put
HTPs on Fabri's car and the general.
And, uh, so Robin Roberts, I don't know if the guy that I just, I pulled
up in his blue car today.
So Robin, um, is sponsored by hearts and my business partner Dave with the
Florida deal sponsors, Robins pro mod.
So they've been trying to get with hearts to build us some custom turbos and
this and that.
And finally we lined out everything yesterday.
So like,
Cool.
Okay.
The dragon drive car is going to get some hearts.
Uh, my, my Huracan is going to get some hearts and, uh, and, um, what is it
called?
And Dave's, uh, Dave's Huracan, the, the gray perf is getting some hearts.
So, um, we're, we're pretty interested to see when we take that car apart.
It, there's nothing wrong with actually the only thing wrong with it is an
axle boot tour.
So I'm kind of happy it rained out because we would have been pissed, uh, you
know, that we had a good track and, uh, you know, the thing stopping us was
an axle boot.
So when we replace that in the next few weeks, um, we're going to see like
really try to finish off the engine and then see, uh, you know, turn it up and
see when it breaks.
And then, um, see how far we can get away with it.
Uh, I do believe that those castings are not all casted the same.
Like some, some, some seem to be holding a lot more power than others before
they crack.
And I've seen it across the board and just talking to other shops.
Um, so we'll see.
Okay.
Bringing back to the, uh, uh, have you tested any of the hearts turbos on
your builds yet or that's TBD.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Is there anything that seems to be appealing about jumping over there?
Like, I, I guess I'm not entirely sure like where the hype is cause I haven't
really read on it yet.
I've talked to one of the, uh, one of, uh, I guess the sales reps or maybe
the, I don't know who it is over there.
Uh, very little back talk.
It's just like, this is what I want.
They're like, cool.
Here's, there's your options.
And, um, from what I'm understanding, um, they don't use and don't quote me on
this, I could be wrong.
Yeah, we need to cut to.
This is from no, no, like, I don't, I don't mind talking about it, but I could
be completely wrong, but from what I understand, the compressor wheel doesn't
have a nut on it.
Oh, okay.
So they get more surface area per blade because it, it basically the surface
area is taking the part of where the nut was.
So that's why they're able to, you know, an 88 millimeter turbo makes the
power of a 94 or something, right?
Because you're, you're able to move that much more air.
Okay.
Yeah.
That was one.
So this is like, it's got to be almost two years now when I had, uh, apex
turbo has a similar thing, right?
When I had them on and the other thing that made it appealing to them was like,
basically like they had more bearings and just spun better.
And I've heard great things about apex and it's funny.
You said that I was.
Honda guys love them.
I was talking to somebody yesterday and they brought up apex.
Yeah.
And, um, yeah, I was, um, we've, we've been using the turbo smarts on a lot of the
bigger power stuff.
They've been awesome.
Uh, Blake's car has 82 80s on it and they're small.
It's like a old school way of talking about it, a 40 R sized turbo.
So I don't know what that converts to precision in the new kids.
Either way, but, um, I mean, that car made 26 30 to the tire on a turbo that was
not much bigger than a 35 R based.
Zona, you know, so, um, which it's spools incredible.
Um, Blake's car is really, really awesome.
He broke his personal best two 20 is like fourth or fifth pass.
And he's like, that's all I wanted to hit was two 20.
I'm like, I'm going to park it.
I'm happy.
So do you have a lot of those customers where it's just like, all right, I'm
actually happy with how far I've made it.
Or is it like more so you have a lot of people coming back here and it's like,
all right, let's take it up a notch.
Oh, I'm going to say it's like 70 30 70 always wants to go faster.
Uh, but then like, you know, as you go faster, um, it's, it's a wallet game.
Yeah.
Um, you know, parts fail sooner and I don't care who builds it, who makes the
part, who installs the part, who machines the part, like you're making 2800 to
3000 wheel, like you're going to break stuff.
Right.
And that's just part of it.
And some people are happy with their, you know, the, I'll be
honest in the vipers were pretty lucky like that 2000 to 2500 is pretty damn
reliable.
Um, the weak link will always be in a vipers drive train.
Um, you know, and, and PPG N0660 has come a long way as well.
We had really good luck with the MCO sequentials.
That's what was in the gen five record holding car that we have at 233.2 or
something.
So, yeah, um, that white ACR of Greg's, that thing, you know, that was fourth
pass on the MCO and, um, you know, went 233.
So we were, we were pretty pumped about that.
Um, but yeah, I think, I think with knowing, you know, we've taken every
single one of those transmissions parts ourselves and like all of them have pros
and cons, not good and bad, but pros and cons.
That makes some of them are the cons are, it's a 20 year old design that they
really haven't improved on.
And you know, um, some of them are, you've taken a transmission that wasn't
supposed to be a sequential and made it a sequential, you know, you, you're, you're
space constraints, you're, you know, you're limited by what you can actually do.
And I think that's going to be one of the great things when we kind of come
out with our own sequentials.
Um, I think working with pure on the clutches and some other stuff is, is
going to be really good for us as well.
Kind of another person in the market.
Um, and you know, we are racers, like I've been racing my whole life.
Like I'm going to go and try to just break everything I fucking can, um, and give
my customer the best product and not use my customers as the guinea pigs.
It's, you know, why I think we did so well with the vipers was the general
was my car, like blow it up.
It's going to just get pushed in the corner and, you know, or blow it up.
Let's take it apart and see why it blew up, you know, our CY we're breaking, you
know, this gear so many times, like the Tremac fifth year is the thinnest one
out of all of them.
Um, so in the stock transmissions, even at 1300, well first it's the thinnest.
Uh, and it's also one of the tallest, right?
So you hit fifth at like 145 miles an hour in the stock year set and the car
just lays over, right?
So we had Bonafonte build us these billet fifth gears and, um, you know, it
took a few iterations.
Some were very loud, some weren't and we narrowed it down and, you know, we
have this gear that has had zero failures.
Um, you know, for 1300 to 1500 horsepower, you know, um, now we're working
on a full, full billet, you know, gear set.
Okay.
That makes sense for Tremac's, you know, um, PPG, like I said, has been awesome.
We're still always going to sell their product.
Um, uh, I think they just can't keep up with their own manufacturing.
Like they're, they're too big for themselves.
If that makes sense.
And, and it's nothing wrong with that.
You know, they're trying to, you know, expand their manufacturing.
Um, but I think, you know, with, with Bonafonte being here in the United States
and, you know, his, his patented heat treat or metal that he uses, I don't know
the exact term to be proper.
Uh, I think we're going to have a much, um, stronger gear set, but it's also
going to be a lot more expensive.
Right.
So like, there's that trade off again.
There's that trade off, right?
So like the PPG stuff works great at 15, 16, 1700 horsepower, you know, like that's
great for the lower power guys and the higher power guys are just going to have
the more expensive gear sets, you know, that's what it costs to go racing.
That's what it costs to go racing.
And there's, it's always good to have different tiers and try to, um, try to
accommodate everybody's like financial needs, because if you just all go for the
big dogs, that's a very small pool, right?
But if you go for, like I said, the thousand horsepower Tremac, you know,
Magnum, Magnum XL, Viper, Magnum F group of people that are like, you know,
there's 80,000 of those people building, you know, thousand horsepower Camaros
that would want a gear set that holds very strong, you know, very long, very
strong power.
Okay.
So you're kind of thinking about all the differences.
You're expanding the business in so many different ways than at this point.
Is there something to kind of set you off a few years ago to go this direction?
Cause like you were very Viper heavy beforehand.
We were, um, there's only so many Vipers, you know, we've built, I think,
like 230 turbo cars and about 100 or 120 NA cars over the last 12, 13 years.
Um, those cars will always be in circulation, right?
Unless they get total older things of that nature.
But like we're always going to have that refresh business.
Um, but I'm going to say between having kids, you know, and just wanting to spend
more time at home and not having to build, like I was saying, 30 cars a year.
I think these are very good avenues.
Put stuff in a box and chip it, you know, you can call it parts, but like, I,
it's not really like we're not a parts manufacturer, right?
We're, we're more of a, I think what we're going to try to do is have
Calvo Motorsports be more of an R and D facility that we use on our race cars to
basically, so the machine shops, its own entity, the gear and clutch company is
its own entity, um, and their own businesses, right?
But we're all going to be under the same roof, right?
And, and have Calvo Motorsports be more of the, the test bed by going racing,
promoting the products and make it fun again for us.
Yeah.
So kind of like, you know, race on Sunday, sell on Monday, sort of deal.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yep.
Yeah.
I mean, we're always going to support our old cars.
We're always going to move forward and build new cars.
Um, the other thing out there is like, there's no new cars that really interests me.
Like I'm a car guy.
I love cars, right?
Like I don't want to go buy something to be in a market that I don't like, you know,
like that's one of the reasons why I never bought a GTR.
Like I worked on them when I worked at Booslogic.
I worked on them when I was at Cobb and like,
there are some cool cars, like some of them are cool.
Like I'll say like Sisi O's blue car that he had.
I don't know why I always love that car.
Like just the look of it, everything.
I think it was just a really good looking car.
And if I can have 40, 50 cars in a car collection, I would love 11 day, right?
But it's not a priority of mine that I want to jump in that market.
And there's really like not a lot out there that really peaks my interest to get into.
Um, you had that Temerario visit you a few months ago, didn't you?
What did you think of that car?
Didn't, I don't, I don't know.
I didn't really like the front of it.
I don't know, but just did you get to drive it at all?
Or no, actually Dave and a buddy of his were picking up their cars at Lamborghini of
Austin, they got two cars delivered at the same time.
And, um, that was there for a demo and we got to drive it.
And actually they drove it over here to look at the machine shop and everything.
And, um, I drove my, my Maverick.
So, but I love that Maverick.
Everybody makes fun of me about it.
And I love that thing.
I got to commute 35 miles to work every day.
Okay.
Oh, you, so you do have a little bit of a commute then.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, I've had it for a little under two years and I've put 35,000 miles on
it already.
So, you know, it gets 45 miles per gallon.
So it's pretty, I, I, I can throw stuff in the back of it.
I can, you know, it's, and it's funny.
It's like the one car I never cared about and it doesn't have a single scratch on it.
Like it's, it's the one car.
I'm like, I bought this thing because it was like 35, 36 grind or something.
Like I bought this thing because it gets great gas mileage.
It's a hybrid.
It has a pickup truck bed.
I can throw a few blocks in the back, you know, when the machine shop was still at
Dennis's and, uh, and it helps with the commute every day and it's comfortable.
Right.
Like my, my F 350 that I was commuting with like beats my backup pretty bad, you
know, commuting.
Um, so yeah, it's, I don't know.
It's been an awesome little car, but yeah, I don't, like I said, there's just not many
new cars out there that really piqued my interest.
I'm starting to go back into like, I like my old nineties cars.
Yeah.
Is that your 300 out there?
But no, no, no, that's, uh, one of the detailers from, okay.
He's been keeping it here.
Do you have one right now?
What, a 300?
Yeah.
And then you wanted a white one, right?
I had a white one.
I almost bought another white one about five months ago.
Um, I, uh, I found it here in Austin.
It had 46,000 original miles brand new, brand new.
And I went to go look at it and it, it had some hail damage.
It was repairable.
Um, but then the passenger side, you know, like that little
waffly stuff on the bottom of them, like on the, where the fender
comes down, like underneath the black stripe, you must have ran over
something, it was all pushed in.
It was all little stuff that I could have repaired, but it wasn't
perfect.
And I'm like, man, I don't, I'll tell you the interior was brand new.
It even smelled new.
It was, it was really nice.
I've just, it wasn't for the price.
I rather paid a little bit more and look for something that I could just
literally go take to get clear broad, put a set of old school blitz type
threes on, lower it and call it a day.
You know, are you looking at like bring a trailer or anything?
Everyone's a lot.
I haven't.
I've, yeah.
Yeah.
It's, I, you know, with us moving to Florida in the next year, like me and
cars are like, you know, I just sold my blue ACR.
Um, I just, I don't have time to drive them, you know, and the more stuff I
accumulate, even here, the shop in my house is just more stuff.
I'm going to have to move.
So I'm like trying to declutter my life.
That's fair.
Speaking of moving, uh, so in the next year or whatever is the entire
team going to be moving with you as well?
Or okay.
So I, oh wow.
Okay.
Everybody.
Uh, how many, um, cause you mentioned earlier that you, you got up to 13 employees
at one point and then that chaos ensued, obviously, but where are you at right now?
It's funny.
We're back down to the original.
So Tim and Jaime, I think Jaime came on board 2014 and Tim was like mid 2015.
Okay.
Um, and then Charlie came in 2017, 2018.
He left.
We bounced around a little bit.
He went to underground and worked at this, uh, rest of my place in Chicago for a
while and then he came back here.
Um, so it's kind of like the OG four of us.
Um, and then we have Charlie's like childhood best friend, Rudy running the
front office, the logistics, answering the phones office, office guy.
Um, and then we have, uh, this, this guy, Miguel, that actually came from Sissio,
ended up in Austin and he saw that I was looking for texts.
He's been awesome to work with.
He's, he's coming back with us.
And then, um, uh, Tony, one of the machinists is going to retire, um, when we
move and Mitchell, uh, that does all the cylinder heads is going to come with us.
Gotcha.
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So let's talk a little bit about your, your, uh, machining capabilities here,
because this isn't exactly a small room.
So what are you all able to do in here?
Um, pretty much anything, bore, hone, a line, hone, line, bore, uh, cylinder
head work, uh, balance.
It's, it's a full machine shop crank.
The only thing we can't do is crank grinding.
Um, okay.
Uh, I prefer not to do any boring here.
So, uh, usually when we sleeve the engines or sleeved it, uh, this CNC place in Dallas,
um, I used to be the investor there.
Uh, he purchased the machine for me.
We still have a great relationship, but he does all my, my block, my block
sleeving for the vipers, uh, and the Lambo stuff.
Um, so it's a lot easier for a machine to bore something very quickly than it is
to set it up on our, you know, on a boring bar here or so.
But yeah, that's the surfacer there.
That's a sun and a CK.
I think it's a CK 100 line hone.
That's our cylinder hone there.
There's a Rottler here, TCM 25 behind us.
That's the balancer over there.
Um, that, that's actually one of my favorite machines right there.
The old, um, uh, it's a Hendy lay that came off like a 1937, um, World War two
battleship.
Yeah.
That's sick.
It's, and it's like one of the most accurate machines, uh, Burko, uh, Burko
surfacer there.
You can deck blocks, deck cylinder heads.
Um, yeah, it's pretty much everything you need to build a motor.
Oh, we have like, um, back in that corner, that's our, uh, balancer over there.
So, uh, spring, uh, spring pressure checker over there.
Um, and then I think right around there, you can see, we have this little thing
that tells you if the, uh, pins are bent, basically it's a little tool that you see
and it will tell you how much they're bent.
And we have our rod hone over there.
Um, yeah, there's, there's not much we can't do here.
Um, I had, when we were doing the billet block, there was a, obviously it was the
first one, it wasn't going to be perfect.
One of the things we missed was the lifter valleys were a half an inch too tall.
So the tie bar was hitting the lifter valley before the lifter would touch the
cam and we had a complete engine and it was the middle of the night and, um, we're
like the whole motors together.
So I got a little creative.
Well, they didn't have heads on it, but I got a little creative in the mill.
And that gantry over there was basically holding the block up in that mill and I
got real creative and wound up like a plunge, plunge, plunge, back cut and, you
know, take, I don't know, almost a half an inch out.
So I think like 480,000 is what I have to come out of it.
But yeah, it's, we did that in the middle of the night into Sunday morning.
And then the guys were able to on Sunday finish putting the motor together.
It worked.
So, but yeah, there's, there's really nothing we can't do here.
We have our engine assembly, transmission assembly, that big transmission table,
everything.
So it's, I mean, there's really nothing we cannot do here.
Dude, this operation exploded since the last time I was here.
I was telling them here, uh, when we were pulling up here, he's like, cause like,
he started joining me for these trips and he's like checking out these various
shops with me or whatever.
And like, I kind of like have a lay of the land of a handful that I visited.
I'm like, this is a way bigger operation than it was a year and a half ago.
And people didn't.
So like Dennis has been doing our engines for, man, 56 years.
And when I said, do the engines, he would machine them.
And then Tim would always expect the bearings out, assemble everything.
But Dennis would do the, you know, the main caps, the balancing, um, the valve
jobs, seat install guide, install all that stuff, the cylinder head stuff.
He would do, oh, we used to use Dave.
Dave's awesome.
Um, it was just a shipping thing.
Like Dennis is great.
Like we CNC'd all the ports and everything on our, on our CNC machine.
So there was really no, no point in sending stuff to New Jersey when everything
could be kept here in Austin, you know, between Austin and Dallas.
Um, you know, uh, but yeah, I just also, you control it, right?
You're not having anybody else.
You know, Hey, I need this done today.
You know, like stop what you're doing and do this.
Well, it's like you mentioned earlier.
It's like you just did it overnight.
Like, you know, you have an issue.
You could solve it right now.
You don't have to call anybody, nothing like that.
And I'm still learning.
There's like, you know, I was splitting my time up between my shop and Dennis's.
And Dennis was teaching me, you know, um, a lot.
Um, I only got to work there for about two years before he retired.
And this is now all of his equipment in my shop.
Um, you know, I would like to spend more time here learning from Tony.
Tony's, I think 66 or 67.
Um, so he's going to be retiring when we move.
And, you know, I'd like to, their, their knowledge is like a dying art.
You know, and I, I enjoy doing this more than anything, you know, uh, same thing
with the fabrication welding.
That's kind of like my, my go-to sanctuary of fun.
So yeah.
So what's a day in the life of Calvo look like?
Oh man.
Um, I get up early either the last few weeks, Gordon Ryan started getting me to
go to his Jiu-Jitsu school.
Okay.
So I've been getting up in the morning, three days a week going there.
I've been trying to be a lot more healthier.
You know, um, I have twins that are going to be two years old in August.
Yeah.
So I'll be 58 when they're 18.
So, you know, when I'm 50, I don't want my son running through me at like football
practice or something.
So I'm trying to, trying to, you know, I dropped like 30 pounds, um, since last year.
Um, you know, get up in the morning, go to work.
I've started going to having breakfast at this diner.
Um, down the street, then just get eggs and avocado.
You know, it's kind of like my column before the storm, get here, try to answer
emails I go over every morning stuff with my accountant from the day before.
Um, you know, our cash flow for the day, things of that nature, get with Rudy on
emails, things like that, then usually hop on the dyno, uh, with Cody, probably
three days a week, two days a week.
Um, then it's weld stuff in the fab shop, kind of oversee stuff and then try to
get in here and talk to customers, things of that.
So it's, it's kind of, I've jumped around a lot for your team.
Obviously, even with these guys for the better decade, a little bit more than a
decade today, just come in, they already know what to do pretty much.
Like here's, here's the whiteboard.
Do what's on it.
Yep.
Yeah.
Uh, Jaime is the overall general manager of the office and shop.
And then Charlie's the, the shop manager.
So Charlie knows what cars need to be done by what dates and he, him and Jaime
kind of are the connection, the fuse from the back to the front.
Um, if Jaime doesn't have transmission work, he's doing a paperwork and, you
know, uh, trying to see where parts are for what builds and trying to manage everything.
You know, I think, man, at the beginning of this year, we have like 35 or 36 cars
in the shop and in the last, you know, we're down to, I think 17 in the main shop
and eight in the storage facility, but two of them are mine and Jaime's.
So there's like six cars here.
And I think in the next week, we're having another four or five cars leave.
So we'll be, we'll be sub 25 cars like very soon, which is nice.
And I think every week, one or two cars are going to be leaving.
And unfortunately we're not going to be taking any big projects in for the next
year because obviously we're moving.
Um, so I, I'm trying to time it where, like we said, we don't have to take any,
any big cars.
We have the dragon drive project.
We have Joseph's car.
Um, you know, obviously all the race cars that want to go to all these events
are constantly going to need maintenance and things like that.
Um, it was kind of as, as much as we were bummed, it was kind of like a breath
of fresh air that the half mile got canceled in, in May, uh, because it was
just like TX2K, Hondo, Indy, Indy again in August, right into Abilene, you know,
and then it's like, man, what a constantly just go, go, go.
Yeah.
And then we're going to be right back in TX2K.
And I'd really like to spend a lot of time, um, you know, Fabricio's car has
been this always evolving ball of power and carnage.
Um, and it's just been like wire harness on top of wire harness to modify this.
And I think, you know, we're at, we're at where we need, he finally went
automatic and real saw the, saw the light, you know, like this is so fast.
So, okay.
So that car up until this year was always sequential, sequential.
Airship, just Quentily.
Okay.
And then yeah, he finally went, uh, he's now got an airshift and automatic.
Okay.
So this year was the first time he was using it.
Like what, uh, TH 400, I'm guessing.
Okay.
Yep.
Um, I think it awesome.
Uh, did you tell, what, what happened when he switched lanes and got back into it?
By the way, at Texas, do you just like, I'm just going to finish my run.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm having fun.
I don't care.
I paid to do here.
I saw that.
He's like, I'm the best driver.
And I'm like, you saved it.
Very good.
You saved it.
I'm very happy.
I like, I like trying to modify cars instead of repair frames on cars, you know.
Um, so we were happy.
He's, he was pumped and he was just like, man, I just want to keep making hits.
So, okay.
Fair enough.
Can't, can't welcome my goal for that car is, um, to have it set up for the half mile
and in Abilene.
Oh, okay.
Um, so that requires some changes I imagine then.
No, um, I mean, it's geared to like, I think like two 45 right now at 9,500 RPM.
Okay.
So, um, we are, well, we took it, we used our standard rotating assembly in the
billet block and, you know, after we didn't think we heard anything in the motor, uh,
the, the valve train looked good.
The only thing that happened was when it sheared all the bolts off the converter
to the flex plate, um, it saw like 10,000 RPM for a few seconds.
And we noticed some of the push rods came, came undone.
Um, and then we noticed that the pedestals were bent and started pulling the
threads out of the head and it was just from staying on it one, when everything
broke from going, no, or loaded to unloaded, you know, um, um, that, that's
not a assembly issue.
That's not, it was just the luck of the draw and what that, that would that let go.
And we were going to, we planned on pulling the motor out anyway to inspect everything.
And that's when we noticed like stuff that would last for years in Fabricio's car
lasted like four passes and it wasn't the pistons look perfect.
Um, every wrist pin was bent.
One of them was bent seven.
Um, and, uh, every aluminum rod had some, some sway to them.
So, um, we are going back to the drawing board with some companies and, you know,
trying to now put bigger, better parts, not that we didn't have the greatest of parts,
but we're now entering kind of like pro mod territory.
And it's just, it's just different, different avenue of looking at it from what we're,
we didn't know, you know, so now with that, we know it's like, wow, um, it didn't break
from, it didn't break, but it didn't, you know, hurt those parts from, from tuning.
It just hurt them from sheer power.
So, uh, you know, back to the drawing board on that stuff.
That's gonna be out.
So is that car going to come out in that trim in August then?
Is what you're thinking for half now?
Abilene is in October.
Oh no.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to, I want to clean up the wire harness.
Um, we had, uh, I don't think we had enough ignition system.
Um, we had enough fuel pump.
It had a 32 gallon per minute fuel pump, a mechanical pump.
Um, but we were out of injector.
Um, I think it was breaking up a little bit.
We, we turned it up to 65 pounds of boost on 298s.
It was, you know, head gaskets look great.
Fire rings look great.
Um, the, the valves looked a little beat up, but I think that's from when it was over revved.
Um, but everything else looked good inside the engine.
Um, you know, the bearings look good.
One of the bearings looked a little beat up and I, I don't know if that's just from
being over revved or whatever, but, um, there are some, some things that we do want to look
into and learn about.
That's R and D.
Yeah.
That R and D.
Yeah.
For, listen, for a block that was never ran, that was finished once again.
I like, we finished, John Reed was actually the one helping me on the dyno that night
because Cody was flying to 2k or not flying.
He was driving to 2k.
Um, and, uh, I pulled in at like 530 in the morning.
You know, so for something that had like never been tried or never been done before,
it went together, worked and, um, yeah, it made, you know, it,
What more can you ask for?
Right?
Yeah.
What more, like, it wasn't the outcome we wanted.
Like we really wanted to go to elite eight.
We really wanted to compete.
Um, unfortunately when those converter bolts broke, it tore a bunch of stuff up.
Right.
Yeah.
So it goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
That's just racing.
That's just racing.
You know, we are addressing why the converter bolts broke.
They started pulling the threads out of, I think it's a king cert that the converter has in it.
And I, I think, I think the flex plate started to move and stretch the threads and then just
broke everything.
That's what happened in my opinion.
So we need a thicker flex plate.
And it's just one of those things like we didn't know, you know, so.
Oh, okay.
So if you move into Florida then how does that affect events?
Right.
Cause like you got Texas 2K in your backyard, you got Abilene in your backyard.
We're still going to just commute.
Okay.
Just simple as that.
Just simple as that.
I mean,
Does that mean more FL2K Florida stuff then?
Probably.
Um, the, the, the cool thing is, so we're, um, on the, on the intersection of highway 54 and 41.
If you take highway 41, like 20 miles north, uh, you're at lead foot city, which is this
new eighth mile track that just opened up.
In Florida?
In Florida.
Okay.
So we're going to have an eighth mile track 20 minutes from.
It's going to be awesome for testing.
For testing.
Yeah.
It's like go there, take a car on an open trailer.
If something happens, just go back to the shop.
You know, Bradenton will be an hour.
Still not bad.
Still not bad.
I have, there's nothing here in Austin and, um, unfortunately for me, I like road racing.
Yeah.
Kota's right.
Like we're actually going to Kota today.
Well, they're now doing a membership only at Kota.
Okay.
I think it's going to start in 2027.
It's a million dollar membership and $8,000 a month.
So that's going to wipe out the one thing that kept us in Austin, which was fun.
And the service work on some race cars, not that that was a big thing for us.
There's a bunch of other shops that do it, but I think, um,
the Austin car scene over the last 10 years has just died to almost nothing.
Unless you have a hyper car and exotic and you like to go on these little fruit fruit
cruises or whatever these guys do, like, you know, revving their fucking engines off the,
I did, I went with that exotic networks when I had the Perf and I did this like,
Christmas parade lap around Kota.
That was cool.
And I had all the lights and everything.
I had some fucking asshole in this SVJ next to me, just the entire time bouncing off the
fucking rev limiter.
I had to like, you know, it was at night, I had to roll my windows up.
I couldn't see any of the lights and this dude is just literally next to me.
Like you're typical.
I hate to say it.
Like there is, you know, uh, people say your Lamborghini douchebags.
That was that guy.
Like that was the reason why people think people and without having Lamborghini's
or douchebags, that guy, you know, I don't know where I think he was from Houston,
but like I wanted to go out and like, it was obnoxious.
It was 20 fucking minutes of this guy just pounding on the fucking rev limiter next to
my fucking ear.
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Yeah, there's some Ferrari event going on over there.
It's like free to the public.
And I was, you know, I was just like, you know, we're gonna be next to Kota, you know,
checkouts on the calendar.
Looks pretty sweet.
So I think it's been like for a few days, right?
Yeah, it's like a few day events.
Like the first time they've ever done it, I think there's like 300 something race cars.
I saw they like lined them all up around like, I guess it's the, they call it the carousel.
Like they had all the big, the carousel or in the S's, I forget which one I saw it,
but they, they had them all in where like the stars and stripes are on everything.
So it looked pretty cool.
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Yeah, no, that's gonna be exciting.
I'm excited to go back or not go back first time going to Kota.
I mean, that's gonna be, I haven't been to an F1 track since Miami or whatever.
So it's gonna be cool to see.
And they have like some old pre-halo F1 car there.
So yeah.
It's like I said, when I had kids, kind of everything, especially two at one time,
every, and we don't have any family here in town.
My dad lives here, but like he's barely here, you know?
So he's always traveling, enjoying retirement.
But yeah, it's, it's a cool facility, but not a, I don't have a million dollars to spend
on a membership.
But I don't, I don't think there's, you know, the only tracks you have is gonna be Harris
Hill that's local.
That's, it's cool if you have like a Miata, you know, it's a very small technical track.
It's not fast.
So, right.
So you can't rev out the Viper or whatever.
Viper, GT3, GT2, like any of the fun stuff.
Kota is a very fast track and very technical track.
You know, that's why the Vipers and the GT cars do so have so much fun there, you know?
Right.
Were you gonna instructor there for a little while as well?
A few weekends, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Like, it's, I don't like riding with people.
Especially people that don't listen to you.
You know, it's very, when you're like, the worst thing to do is like get a guy that bought a
really fast car, you know, and doesn't listen or doesn't know how to drive it.
What's an example of a fast car?
Like that Kota.
GT2 on the back straight will hit like 170, 175 miles an hour, but then you're going into
a 120 degree left hand turn.
Okay.
There's like gravel and then a wall, which I've seen a lot of people hit or like in the
front straight, you can hit GT2 will hit like 150 something up that hill and there's a dip
and like people don't like to brake or they don't know how to like basically let the car
unload and then reload itself after the dip.
And if you don't make that almost 180 degree turn, there's just a wall right there.
And it's, I've seen a lot of cars hit that wall, I don't just going way too fast and
they don't know how to turn or they freak out and you know, or just the biggest thing I've
seen is just people that overdrive the cars.
You know, and you get these cars that have all these nannies that really assist you.
The new GT3 is a prime example.
That car is, it's a, it's a track car that has a VIN number that has a bunch of
safeties on it to save your ass.
You know, so you can have a guy that thinks he's really fast because when you're not smooth,
right, it feels fast.
Like when you're smooth, it doesn't feel fast.
It just flows.
I haven't, I haven't tracked the car probably about a year and a half or so.
I'm probably terrible now, but it's a very like intuitive, you know, like you got to be
one with everything and like sometimes like it's just the hard brakes turn, this, that,
like I would go through one set of brake pads a season when I was going to Coda, like, you know,
as much as I could or even I would go up to, A.J. Peterson, his shop is on MSR Crescent.
It's outside Weatherford, Texas.
Oh, okay.
So it's an awesome little, it's a very technical track.
It's got some nice straightaways.
You can hit like 140, 150 in the front straight.
No, no, 130, 130 in the front straight.
And, you know, I would, he would have like an open track day there once a month and I would
leave my house at like 530 in the morning, go up there three hours straight, not just get off
for gas, load my stuff up and still be back at work after lunch.
So I'd only miss a half a day, you know.
Right.
And still even that, doing that all the time, I never smoke brakes like the way I see some
people smoke brakes.
Like, man, it's like, you're just on off, off.
That just, you know, it's, yeah, I just, I didn't like riding with people.
I don't like riding with customers.
Do you, yeah, how does that work, right?
Like somebody takes delivery of their car.
Do you still hop in there, coach them, or do you take them for a ride?
I take them for a ride first.
Here's a great example.
This guy Mike from No Limit Fabrications.
I told him to come down when he bought Colin's dad's car, Tiff's car.
And I said, come down and let me show you how the sequential works.
It's, it's a 100% feel, right?
Like it's very hard to describe how to get it to drive right over the phone.
Right.
So he gets the car, absolutely hates it.
Like this thing sucks, this ad, this sequential sucks.
So we went on that Autotopia show and for the Autotopia YouTube channel.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I think the guy's name was Mike, I'm fur.
No, it's not Mike.
I'm forgetting what the guy from Autotopia's name was, but he got in it and he's driven
a bunch of sequentials, but didn't have all the electric assist stuff.
And he's like, this is awesome.
This is like, this car is this.
So then he tells Mike, he goes, this is one of the best driving cars.
And Mike's like, I don't get it.
He goes, Calvo tomorrow morning, you and I are going to go.
I spent 30 minutes in the car with him and it's now his favorite car.
Okay.
You know, it's just, it's hard to, you know, it's like, if you're going to kick a soccer ball,
right?
It's hard for me to tell you over the phone how to kick a soccer ball, right?
You want it, right?
Like it's like, turn your foot 35, 37 degrees to the left and kick it with an open, you know
what I'm saying?
Like, you know, it's one of those things that you got to sit there and do it with somebody.
And I tell everybody, the best thing to do is to come drive the cars.
I don't need to go wide open throttle with you.
I don't want to go wide open throttle with you.
One of the last times I ever got in a customer car with a customer, we had this R8 that we did,
1300X package makes 1500 wheel, got shipped to this kid in Beverly Hills.
And he said something was going on with the traction control.
I happened to be in the area for with that Autotopia.
So he's like, Oh, come and do dinner.
That's not, it just turned out it was something with the all wheel drive controller when you
were turning the steering wheel, it wouldn't take the all wheel drive out of it.
Just something we overlooked.
You know, rushing to get a car done for a deadline.
So I went, but he lives off Mulholland Drive.
And this kid was going like, I mean, it's a two, 300 foot drop, you know, in some of these hills.
And, you know, you have Coyotes and Driveways and he's just ripping like 130, 140 miles an hour.
Like, and the car's fast, right?
And it's going down hills.
And I was like, dude, like, it was like five or six times I had to tell him to slow down.
And I just, that was the last time I got in a customer car.
I said, I will never get in another customer car.
And he's, this is the best part.
He's telling me how he just rolled his R33 GTR off one of these clips like three weeks before.
And he showed me, he's like, me and my friends survived no big deal.
Like I said, I'm like, dude, I definitely do not want to be the next person, you know,
I've used up some of my nine lives and, you know, I definitely tried to limit my liability life.
So that was the last time I'll show you how to drive your car.
Do not do a poll with me.
If you want to learn how to drive the sequential or just drive around little stuff,
that's fine.
I don't, I don't need to go triple digits with anybody anymore.
Right. Okay. Fair enough.
What's it like?
Because like you've had some, you've had a number of famous people, whatever, in these cars as well.
Like the one that I think about, I think you gave Cam Patterson a ride in the car at some point, right?
Yeah, he was, yeah, he was freaking out even, I mean, I had Brendan Schwab the other day.
Oh yeah, he was talking about you on this last episode of Logan.
Yeah.
He screamed like a little bitch.
It was like, whoa, bubba!
Like that.
And, you know, I made a good analogy with him.
I said, because he was saying, you're just so calm, right?
And I'm like, it was my blue ACR makes 2000 wheel.
I'm like, doesn't feel fast anymore.
Right.
And it's not, I know when I said that the last time on this, I had all these people,
this cocky fucking asshole, this that blah, blah.
It's like, if you do it every day, you know what I'm saying?
You're just going to get used to it.
Right. So like, I told him, I'm like, if you were chasing me to beat my ass, I'd be screaming and running too.
Right.
Because you're a UFC fighter, you knocked out micro crocrop with fucking one punch to the head.
Right.
Like, I do not want to get punched by you.
It's the same thing.
Like, if you started off slow with me in five years, I'm sure I wouldn't be scared of getting punched in the face by you.
But right now, I think you could take my head off my shoulders.
Right.
Right.
You know, so it's the same thing.
Like, plus the passenger seats always, always the scary one, you know, no matter how used to it you are, you know.
I always give Colin credit when, you know, before we had a dyno, we'd do all the first cars were all street tuning.
And he'd be sitting down his laptop as I'm making hits and stuff, 170 miles an hour, you know.
And but yeah, it's it's all relative, you know, but yeah, we had Cam Patterson, Gordon Rines taken rides,
you know, Brendan Schwab, I built a car for Fletcher Cox before.
Julio Jones, I did another Viper 4.
There's been quite a few.
It is. It is crazy when you think about like getting used to cars.
So like, you know, Adam, Minneapolis, Malapar.
Yeah.
Formerly many of us small part, but like he doesn't have a car anymore.
Yeah, it got sold.
Oh, OK.
Yeah. Yep. But anyways, point being when he was sequential, so making, you know, whatever,
2000 horsepower at a time, I got so used to being passenger in that car.
And there's a photo of me out there.
Looks like I'm asleep.
I'm like, no, man, I'm just enjoying this thing.
But eventually even I got scared as a passenger.
I'm like, you know what?
Because I started to get aware of like just how fast we were going, you know.
Things can go wrong real quick, even with the best of drivers.
You never know.
Like look what happened with me with the green car.
Like that wasn't even a fast pass.
And it just like it just locked the back up and sent me to and there was nothing I could do.
You know, on the street, it's like you could have a Fox or a mountain front of you.
You can have, you know, a turtle in the road.
You can have like I'm just, you know what I'm saying?
A Gopher tortoise or whatever.
A Gopher tortoise.
You know, it's just all the little things like that you don't expect can happen, you know.
I see it all the time here in Texas is like the cars left on the side of the roads at night
with no hazards on.
They just like they're abandoned on the side of the road.
Like what happens if like something happens to that car and I have to get on the fucking
shoulder real quick and I don't see a car that's black left on the shoulder with no lights on.
And you know, the worst part is the police do it too.
And it's like, dude, like turn some sort of light on, you know, like I get it.
You're trying to fucking get your tax dollars out of me, like, you know, but at least like
don't put people in danger by sitting on the side of the road on the shoulder.
Yeah.
There's there's so many things that people don't even think of can go wrong.
You know, I had a Hoosier unravel on one of my cars, brand new tire.
It just unraveled like a yo-yo and like I was very lucky.
It happened at 140 miles an hour and I was able to slow the car down and get it off the track.
But yeah, that was who's going to think of that happening.
Yeah.
That's one of the things that like always kind of used to scare me is like anything could go
wrong.
So she had a street, right?
Like I use like motorcycles as an example, right?
You can go to the track.
There's no trees to hit on track.
There's no light poles.
There's no, you know, catchers like, you know,
and people don't understand either.
Like it doesn't take a lot when you hit something that doesn't move to stop your organs from
moving like your heart or your brain.
They just when we were in high school, there was a girl that there was this little bridge
that came over these train tracks and it was it was a tiny little bridge,
but it went up like this and came down like that.
And she, I was in college.
She was in high school and she just like 30 miles an hour slid and hit a tree.
And there was not a single mark on her body, but she was dead.
Wow.
Yeah.
You know, so it doesn't take much to actually like kill you and expect actually going 170 miles an hour,
180 things happen so fast.
And unfortunately, I'm going to say a good portion of the people that own these cars
don't have the reactions or, you know, they haven't been put in the situations that they
need to like that's why I think the going from the big power stuff to going to, you know,
circuit track stuff was was so great because I wasn't scared of being in a weird situation
with the car, right?
Because how fast those cars accelerate.
So like you go from, you know, a 2,500 horsepower Viper in a straight line that's gotten sideways
that you've looped that you've done, you know, kind of everything and then you get into a,
you know, 450 horsepower GT3 RS, right?
And if it starts to come around you, like it doesn't feel like you're not freaking out because
you're only going 100 miles an hour or 120 miles an hour, not 190 miles an hour losing it, you know,
while accelerating at rates of speed that are much greater than you just part throttle going
around, you know, like a double apex or something like that or, you know, tapping the brakes to
turn at 120 into the S's or something like, you know, it's good to have both.
And I think a lot of the people, you know, if you're, if you want to better your skill set,
it's good to do both, you know, they'll help each other in the end, you know.
But yeah, it's, I just don't like being in the cars with people anymore.
It's, there's the cons greatly outweighs the pros. There's no pros. The pro is like, you get a
slap your customer high five for pulling a sequential lever back or, you know, hitting fifth gear.
Sorry, Blake and Thomas. But yeah, it's, yeah, I just, I don't like it. It doesn't, yeah,
especially when you're like, dude, let off and they grab another gear and like, I've done it to
customers. I think it's funny, you know, like whatever. But now I'm real, but I have, I had this
one customer man, he was like 82 years old and he built this 1300 X sequential viper.
Okay. And he was just one of those guys that like, the fear part of life was missing from his brain,
you know, so like, or like, Hey, this is something that can like kill me very quickly. Like, maybe
I should ease into it. This guy just, I showed him how to drive it. We went down toll road 45,
we looped around swap, swap driver passenger and he just fucking rails it man, like second through
fucking sixth gear or something. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, let off and he's coming up to a
bend and grabs fifth to sixth, like we're doing like easily 200 miles an hour. And I'm like,
this dude's 80 something years old or like late seventies, like you can tell like his mechanics
were not of that of when he was probably 50, right? And like, he was good, but like it was,
yeah, actually that guy, I wound up hearing about like him going down to like different
areas of Texas going street racing in the middle of the night, like it was wild. Like I'm like,
man, I hope when I'm that old, I can go street racing. But like, I just, just to hop into something
that you don't know what it's going to do, you know, it's like, I just, just full send it, just
full send it. I was like, dude, like fuck man. And so, but yeah, that's, that's that. So
that was me when I took a GT 500 around our local racetrack, like hopped in and I was over
driving a car right out the gate. It's like, I probably should have taken a slower without,
you know, being overconfident, probably would have enjoyed it more. So I get it.
That's, and that's the thing, especially with like turning, you know,
understanding the mechanics of when you're oversteering, understeering and what it feels
like that little chip chip chip is like you're on the edge, just open the steering wheel up five
degrees and see that you're not, you know, you're not going to chunk the tire. You're not, you know,
wearing out the, you know, the, the kumos were notorious on that on the ACRs. And a lot of it
was people just overdrove the shit out of them, you know, not that the tire was perfect for the
setup, but like you see these people driving and it's like, you know, their arms are all the way
out here and the steering wheel is like this, what do you think is going to happen when that car
wants to snap back the other way? They, I can't, I'm not, I'm a strong dude. I can't,
I can't, you know, you see people driving the tracks like that. It's like, instead of, you know,
being nice and tight and, you know, your steering wheel down low and, you know,
having control of the car and knowing that like you don't need to really go more than,
you know, let's say 50 degrees, you know, to that's, yeah, that's 90. Yeah. I would say 70
degrees in most, most turns, you know, there's a few that, yeah, you're going to get a little over
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the show. Let's talk drag and drive car then, because that has made also a lot of progress
since the last time I was here. Where are we at with that?
MoTeC and Cody Phillips are working on with John Reed on the full wiring of everything.
Wiring, we had to stop on it for all the races and Dave has multiple cars with us as well already.
So the Perf, the Blue Viper, he actually was the one that did Robin's car for Robin. So
you know, trying to get all those out and then obviously that is a massive project.
We, Venomous Carbon is now doing the entire body in white carbon. So they came out with that,
that you know, normal standard black carbon body. And I sent them a bumper that I modified.
Yeah, I saw that. Is that the one where like the front's completely broken?
Yeah, so I modified a front and they made a mold of it.
And we were actually up in Toledo, Ohio the other day for a Marquis lawsuit
thing and we split a room and he was showing me this white carbon I called Dave immediately.
I was like, Dave, look at this white carbon. He's like, do it, do it now.
Or like, awesome, this is going to be like the end all be all the Vipers. But yeah, like,
I think the only thing we have to do for chassis wise is finish the transmission tunnel and the
faux firewall for in the back to kind of, we have some stuff that's going to be having fluids in
the trunk. So we want to seal that off from the driver. So we're putting basically behind where
the cage and ends, we're just going to make it like a little window, but then have the recipe
sheet metal. Gotcha. Okay. So that's that. We're doing full Incanel headers. So the header
collectors were 3D printed. They got done a few weeks ago.
Oh, like metal 3D printing? Yeah. So it's 3D printed Incanel.
I didn't know that was a capable, like I know 3D printed in Incanel, but not Incanel.
If you can do it, it's going to be done on that car.
Okay. It's hopefully still going to look like a street viper. We're going to try to put as
much interior as we can, but we do want to show off the bead rolled floors. We do want to show off
all the little intricacies of the harnesses and all the things we're doing on it because it is,
at the end of the day, still a race car. Oh, it's 100 No, that thing's full on race cars.
So it's going to look like a street car rolling down the street, dragon drive, but
I think it's going to surprise a lot of people now knowing what the billet block is capable of
and just from that one event. So once, I think Dave was waiting to see if that was going to be
a good go because as soon as he was like, it worked, I'm like, it worked. He's like,
cool, order me too. So yeah, I'm actually really excited for that car. I'm going to be doing a
lot of the fabrication myself again on it. So that's going to be one of my final big projects
here in Texas. That's one of our goals is to get it done by the time we move.
Gotcha. Okay. I'm curious, on the bumper, because you guys sealed off the front there,
does that affect anything like, for example, like turbos or cooling or anything like that?
The turbos are going to be getting air from the hood.
Understood. Okay. So like, the firewall was moved back a little bit and there's nothing,
it's got a pedal box and stuff in it. So there's nothing on the side. So the turbos are going to
be up a little higher. Okay. And actually, each one of the runners is an individual piece. So like,
you take each runner and it goes to the collector so you can take apart the header,
go around the chassis. Okay. Yeah, because some are going to go under, some are going to go over
the tubes. Understood. Okay. Yeah. So we're making it so it's like fully disassemble, like you can
disassemble all of it, but the turbos are going to be kind of sitting up and we're going to 3D
print some scoops that go to the, I'm trying to get it. I don't know if it's possible. My idea is
to try to get a inlet to be where the factory ACR fender well vents to draw air from there.
Okay. Okay. I see what you're getting at. It's got a, for cruising around, it's got a
eight inch wide front. So we do have a lot of room around there. I just don't know. It's been on the
chassis table for so long, you know, to see, to visualize everything and look where that wheel
is going to sit versus where the turbos are and to try to scoop something in from the side of
some maybe or I don't know if it'll choke the turbo, but that was my, that was my cool goal.
If not, it's just going to have a tube that goes straight up to the hood.
Sure. For inlet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like, not like funny cars was it?
No, if you look at Morris Malone's car, the Corvette, how he has those inlets in his hood
right there, something like that. I still want to, I've never met Morris in person yet, but I want
to see that car run in person. That thing is, it doesn't, it's craziest thing too. I was there
when he went like 254 and I'm like, Oh, that didn't look that fast. And it was like 254 something. I
guess they, you know, John was saying they just pour all the power in on the top end and it like
back halves faster than everything. Is that something stupid, like 120 mil turbos or something
stupid? I think they were like 106s or something. Yeah. Yeah. It's just something crazy.
So it's, I'm excited to see that car run. Him and I have always kind of gone back and forth over
the years. I think our first little rivalry was when he had the blue Corvette, that compound
turbo set up in like 2015, 2016. And then he started building that car and then he went faster than us
and I think he broke and then we were creeping and reaving up. And then yeah, it's, he was leaps
and bounds every year going faster than us. Cause he, he was smart. He went full race car
instead of trying to do this street car race car stuff. And you know, so it's still a Corvette,
you know, it's got Corvette body panels on it. So I can't take anything away from them about it.
It's an awesome car. I love watching it run. So back to the drive, drag and drive car,
I'm guessing TH 400 for that as well. Yeah. Is there any particular event you guys are trying
to do or just any drag and drive to just kind of sort it out? I think sick week was what we're,
we're aiming for. Sick week. I think we would like to take it to TX2K for drag racing.
We're going to double check that. Like an exhibition class sort of deal. Yeah.
Exhibition class and then definitely half mile stuff. Okay.
Okay. What the bill of block, right? Is when you were designing it, were you also designing
a 40 intentions of being a street car? It's like cooling and all that.
It's got full water jackets, everything actually, to be honest with you,
we were having some problems getting it hot. Oh, really? Like on the dyno, yeah,
with methanol, like it just, I don't think I saw over like 130 degrees, like old temps.
Wow. Yeah. So it was, it kind of messed with the clearance stuff a little bit, but
you know, I think at the track, I don't think we ever saw full throttles, you know,
at the end of the pass, more than 140. Really? Okay. The coolant temps were like 120.
Now, we didn't obviously drive it for 20 minutes down the road and that was on methanol. So I don't,
obviously it's going to be different. I'd like to see put it on pump gas and drive it for,
you know, 45 minutes or so, but or three hours pulling a trailer. Yeah. But, but you know,
obviously there's going to have to be some changes made if you don't have a radiator in the front
of the car to do the drag and drive and, you know, so. What about when it comes to like
balance wise, like for example, for drag racing, like you're going to be going higher with the
turbos, like are you going to have like, is that going to affect like your launch and all that?
Are you thinking about that? 100%. I'm going to definitely have Billy Stocklin and Al help.
Those are your like, promon guys or whatever? Yeah, Billy Stocklin like used to crew chief
for all and all the Al was the chassis guy there. Okay. Yeah. I guess Stevie Jackson is the guy's
name. Okay. Fast Stevie, fast Jackson, I think is one of the fast pro mod guys they've helped him
with his chassis setup and crew chief frame. So there we definitely have some like,
you have some resources, we got some resources that are, you know, the skill set and the knowledge
with those guys is beyond anything. So we're kind of catapult ourselves to, to going fast. But I
think just power alone, I think should go fucking fly. Yeah. Okay. No, I'm really excited for that
because like, I think Dragon Drives are one of the coolest events, right? Like it's kind of like a
road, you've done road rallies before too, right? It's like, not only do you have to have a fast
car, you have to have a fast reliable car that can tow a trailer with all your, you know, your
suitcases, fuel tools, everything, you know, anything you need to swap out. I've noticed like
the some of the other Dragon Drive guys like, you know, they'll take the water out to go drag
race and then put the radiators back on and cruise with no hoods on or no front bumpers on.
Just some crazy stuff. Yeah. So what we're hoping to do is do something with the Dragon Drive that
still allows us to, I hate to say this because it's going to give so much credit to the
Huracans, but like, do what a Huracan does. You can just drive wherever you want with one,
go to the drag strip, click off a seven and drive home, you know? Yeah. Well, that's what Tony
was saying yesterday, like he daily drives a 1200 horsepower STO. Yeah. It's like, it's way better
than the GTRs, he says, like when it comes to daily driving. But you could also daily drive,
like some of your like 1300 X packages, no problem. I drove, it's kind of funny, I drove Manny's
2000 horsepower sequential car to my house and back the other day. And, you know, obviously,
2000 horsepower, it's a lot louder. It's a ACR, so there's less sound deadening in it, sequential,
and like the little adjustment nut on the reverse lockout was loose, so it was rattling like
fucking crazy. And it's just like, it's an awesome car, but like it's a race car. And there's a few
little things I need to clean up with it to make it better, but it's fucking loud.
You know, then I drove Robin's car home last night, it's a GTS, it's got Laguna
interior, which is the diamond seats like bolstered seats and, you know, the 21 speaker
surround sound so I could actually listen to music. And it was like, just I'm like, I could,
I could daily this car, you know, Manny's car was, was, I guess I'm getting old, I used to love driving
sequentials. And now I'm like, dude, I just want to put it in drive and go. And that's kind of one
of the things about the R8s and Huracans that are so nice, you know, I drove the General to my
house and back once with auto in it. I'm like, man, this is so nice. I just keep it in third
gear and cruise at 70, you know, so, but yeah, where are we at with the General, by the way?
Jatti finally broke 230. Okay. In the half mile. The car has big turbos on it automatic.
Jatti is slowly easing into the power of it. So we unfortunately, we changed the setup on it this
last time and Jatti, he didn't realize it, we kept telling him like, dude, you're letting on and off
the gas, on and off the gas, on and off the gas, the whole run, like, look, he's like, no, I'm not.
And then he looked at the video and he's like, oh man, I really am letting on and off the gas the
whole time. I said, yeah, and you still went 230, you know, like, just stay on it, you know, he's
like, but it's spinning and we're like, no, it's not like both wheels are moving the same speed,
dude, like you're, it's moving around a little bit. The logs tell you everything. Yeah. And, and
he's like, we had to talk the other day, he's like, all right, I want to start going to more events.
I want to get, get it really dialed. Unfortunately, he let off the gas the last event,
like almost all the way as the converter was locking up. And then when he got back on it,
I think between the converter lock, getting locked, you know, pulling the motor down and when he
stepped on it, it hit with 50 pounds of boost on 298s. It chunks some rods out of it. So we're
putting the motor, it's actually, he's got a block over there, we're putting together for him
right now. And yeah, that's, I think what we're going to try to do is get it, we always try to
go for the moon. And I think what we need to do is start slow and work our way up with that,
especially with the drive, because it is true, he only comes to two events a year, you know, and
that's the only time he drives the car. And it's, it's a fast car, I mean, 298s. And then we've
changed the setup a few times, you know, because we learned, oh, back these, these servos had too
much back pressure, we, you know, made it too tight of a turn here. You know, the fuel pump took
a shit here, you know, things like that. So it's, I think we're in a good spot on setup and chassis
wise on it, that we're just going to leave it alone. And not, I mean, it's got 298s on it,
what more do you fucking need, you know, so, and those zonos too, by the way, no, no, those are
HPT's or HPT, HPT, HPT, oh yeah, okay. So that's what we have on Fabricio's car too. So they're
298s and I think like 103 millimeter turbines. So they're zero back pressure. We haven't even started
to, the general with the stock block will never see what, you know what I'm saying, what, what
those turbos were produced or stock casting, you know, but Fabricio's were sending pretty hard.
So, um, yeah, it's, it's, uh, I'm very happy for the course we're taking, you know, to go back to
having fun going racing, you know, I think that's, and then R&D parts for engine programs, we,
you know, we work with a shop, Complete Performance Motorsports, we've been doing a lot of their
engines, they're a roadway shop. So, um, have great relationship with them. If, you know, like we said,
if we can find seven or eight shops that, you know, you work well with, I know I was talking to Tony
the other day and I think he said he's no longer doing engines for other shops that the liability
is just too much and he's kind of over it. Um, and I, he goes, good luck to you because I don't
want to deal with that headache anymore. And I think if you just work with, like I said, a select
few people that makes life so much easier, that makes life, you know, like Sterling with the Supra,
um, you know, he had, uh, an engine issue with another, another 2JZ builder and I don't know who
was right or wrong. I don't know the semantics of it are not important, but engine failure right
before TX2K, he said Calvo, he's a local guy here. Calvo, can you rebuild the motor? Can you do this?
Can you do that? Can you go over everything we did? Um, car made 2000 wheel, the clutch started
slipping on the next pass, so we turned it back down and kept it at 2000. Um, uh, he did two or
three events, we took the short block apart, it looked brand new. So like, you know, we're now,
we got to, I talked to Brian Crowe the other day about getting, you know, becoming a dealer for
his parts and being able to use them. He was super static about it. Um, he was like, man,
I've heard nothing, but you could got the good things about the motors that come out of your,
your shop. And it's like, wow, really? Cause I didn't, I didn't realize our, our motor program was
that big for people to talk about. Um, you know, so, uh, I'm pretty pumped about that. You know,
the 2J market is kind of what we originally came from, you know, um, and it's, it'd be cool to
have, uh, you know, I was talking to Brian and I said, I'd like to start putting motors on the
shelf for people, you know, obviously this is not going to be a two man operation for long. It needs
to be like a 10 person operation. And I'm trying to put Tim in charge of everything with that,
you know, so we can actually have blocks on the shelf and sell them to, to, you know, in different
packages, you know, kind of like what real street was doing for a while. Um, you know, I know
it is overwhelming to try to keep the logistics of all the making everything the same. And then
what motors come back, well, this one's a five over this one's now we're four months out on
pistons, you know, and then having the inventory of all that stuff. And I think, um, you know,
Dave, Dave sees that if we can get the inventory, right, which obviously he can, he can purchase.
Um, it would be really good for us to have stuff because
everybody wants everything right now, you know, so if you can get it right now and I have it,
like, you know, you can charge a premium for it. And I think just in general,
a lot of people are racing to the bottom, you know, to do stuff cheap. And then
I see it with the Lambo stuff, like, you know, some of the quotes I'm getting from other,
from people that are like, you know, price shopping. And it's like, there's no money in it
for me. Like I'm not here to God forbid something does happen. I have to eat this, like, you know,
I need to cover my cost. So like, you know, building a, building a 2000 horsepower Lamborghini
engine for 40 grand does not, you know, I had some guy the other day message me and it's,
he's one of those shoppers, right? He'll hook message me and ask me, Oh, will you sell me one
of your turbo kits or Oh, will you sell me that wire harness that you did on the per for this and
that? Finally, he's like, he asked me what's it going to cost to build a billet block. And I said
115 grand. Right. I think Tony's like 110 or whatever, right. And, uh, and he's like, what
happens if I provide my own block? And I straight up said, I'm like, I'm in the business to make
money. If you want to come to me, you know, you come to me because I'm the potentially the best
at what we do, right? Or in the realm of the best people, right? Like you can't be the best because
there is no such thing as the best. You're, you're, you're in the upper echelon of people that do what
you do, right? So it'd be to say where the best is unfair to there's a lot of talent. There's a lot
of real rare areas. There's a lot of really smart people, really good machinists, really good engine
builders. But we're in the that group I would put us in, right, that category, right? So you're going
to come to me or one of these other guys because you want your car to work right, right? You don't
want to have to do it again twice because it's expensive to do it again twice. And unfortunately,
a lot of people don't learn that lesson. And this guy was like, well, what happens if I provide my
own block? I'm like, not going to happen. Like this is this relationship is ending before it even
started. Like you will not become a customer here. Like you've already gotten to the point where like
even suggesting that is, is you are because the first thing that goes wrong with your car,
you're going to point it at me, right? Even if it's not my fault, and you're going to have me try
to eat it, you know, and I'm like, I just, I don't need that in my life. So I want people that like
are here to help the company grow even other customers. And we, we set up good relationships
with them, you know, long term relationships is what we're looking for, not the single sale,
you know, right? What is customer education look like as well? Right? Cause like, again,
we're talking twin turbo vipers. People love to do their two step in their anti lag with them.
Are you educating these guys be like, Hey, this is going to be expensive. You keep doing this.
You know what? I've, I've taken the Hefner approach and I love it. And it's just like,
you're a fucking idiot. Okay, you are a dumb motherfucker. Stop doing that shit. Like that is,
that is the best, most direct way. And like, you know, that's the one thing I love about
Hefner is like, he's so direct into the point of calling people fucking morons. But like,
I think in today's society, they need to hear that. Like, if you sure, man, that's not a good
thing to do. You might hurt the motor or this that, you know what they're going to think? Oh,
I can do it a few times, then a few more than a few more. No, you're a fucking hard stop doing
that shit. Stop fucking up my work. You know, we had, we had a good talk the other day. I had an
RA in here that had this weird fucking issue. And it, it turned out being something tire related.
And I called him and I said, Have you ever had a car do and he goes, Yes, it was bad tires,
like the tires were bad, it did the same exact thing. And sure enough, we changed the tires.
And it was, I've never felt anything in my life like this. And he's like, Yeah, literally feels
like somebody picked up the back of the car with a forklift and started going side to side,
didn't vibrate, it would just go side to side. I've never felt anything. He goes,
I've had it happen once and it was like something when the tire was made, or I don't know, he goes,
it's happened once to me, I changed the tires. And I know exactly what you're feeling,
changed the tires and it was it. But we're talking about, you know, tire sizes and like the splits,
you know, because the the R8 Huracan and all old drive cars, they're very sensitive to changing
circumference rollout, things of that nature, and trying to keep it under a certain percentage.
And, you know, he made a good point, he's like,
the people that spent millions of dollars, if not billions, engineering this shit, no more
about it than you. So why would you change the ratios of the front to back, right? Because
you're a fucking idiot. And, and, and I was like, I 100% agree. I was like, you know,
but sometimes if you want some wheels, you know, and you're changing the, there's a very small
window that those cars can be fucked with, right, that, that make them do all sorts of wacky shit,
right. And I guess he was telling me that he had a guy that he did a transmission for, it broke.
You know, then he rebuilt it, then he told the guy to go Tony, I guess was tuning the car.
And he said, have Tony, check your wheel speeds to make sure you have the right shit, because it
does not sound like you have the right tires on there. Well, like a year and a half later,
he's like, my trans broke again. And he goes, did you ever call Tony and ask him to, and he goes,
no. And he goes, well, you're just a fucking idiot then. He goes, what would you like me to do?
Like say that you're not a fucking idiot, like, you know, I've told you not to break your $70,000
transmission. This is the third time, because you don't want to fucking ask somebody a question,
because you're too fucking lazy. And goes, so you're a fucking idiot. And that, that's like,
that is like, you can warn somebody wants. And then when they fuck it up, like,
you're a fucking idiot, like there, you can have these cars live such a long, and I have,
I have a customer's name is Ned, he lives in Arizona, he's got a CM 2000.
Car goes like 220 every time he takes it to the half mile. Very happy. This guy will fire up the
car, wait two minutes in his garage, rolls it outside, warms it up for 15 minutes. While that
15 minutes is happening. He's checking all the spark plugs, he's checking the water pump in the
back to make sure the air to water is working this that. And he's like, I'll drive it to a car show,
do one or two polls, double check everything there, come home, do a poll, double check everything,
make sure if a check engine light flashes once, he goes, I creep it home, I call you and this and
that I don't go make another five hits to see if it keeps coming on. And he goes, if something ever
does happen, you know, or I don't feel comfortable, I call a tow truck, I've had other people that
are like, man, I heard a noise, but I was like five minutes from my house. So I just kept fucking
driving and then it kicked the rod out. Let's do very different approaches. Yeah, you know,
guess what, Ned's cars never broke. You know, he's had little things like, you know, he likes to set
the lash on, it's a solid roller engine. You know, he caught, I guess, like the where the roller goes
through on a jessel, it started wallowing itself out, I guess, after five years of getting pounded on.
And, you know, he likes to inspect everything he caught that three rockers were about to fail,
but he caught them before they failed. Guess what, it was very easy to replace the rocker
instead of digging the pieces out of the engine. Yeah, yeah. That's one of the things that I'm
very grateful for being around Adam and the Enthmodo camp is like, I got to like see how Adam
treated his car like that car, he treated it so well. And like, I kind of got to understand like,
what the term mechanical sympathy means, you know. Yeah, you know, Aaron does a very good job at
vetting his customers into not being idiots. I wish I was a little bit better about that earlier
on. I am now and I have a better clientele, I would say, you know, about like, being responsible
with the cars, you know, not sitting there off anti lag every 10 minutes. And, you know, like you
said, I know quiet and Thomas Mendoza the other day made some video and like the two of them are
both next to each other shooting flames. And they're like, we both know already that you're
going to call us fucking idiots. And I said, exactly, I was calling the both of you at the
same time to call you guys idiots. But they're like, we know we're just, you know, had to do it for
the gram. Right. But yeah, it's, you know, if you want to abuse something, listen, if you want me,
if you want to keep paying me to fix your car full pop every time, sure. I don't like fixing
broken shit. Right. I like freshening stuff up that's lasted a very long time and looking at our
work and saying, man, this guy took really good care of the really good work we did, you know,
like, and this is what it should look like, you know, like, we're going to hone the cylinders a
few thousands, put a new set of pistons in it, the rods look great, put a new set of bearings in it,
valve job it put it together, check the spring pressures, everything's good, reassemble not like,
oh man, like this shit's bent to fuck, this is that like, you know, these springs have no fucking
tension left in them. Like, you know, that's not fun. Like, that's not a fun phone call to make.
That's not a fun phone call to make unless you just don't care. And you're like,
I want three engines top to bottom ready to go this that but the people that usually are the ones
that have those engine issues are not the ones that are like, I can pay for three full engines top
to bottom like upfront, you know, they're usually, oh man, you know, I didn't realize I've literally
been on podcast to tell people that they're fucking idiots about the bouncing off the
fucking rev limiter all the time. You know, so to each their own, if that's what they want to do,
then thankfully, we're we don't you know, I have a customer down in Corpus, his 16 year old son
has one of our cars, and he's more responsible than half the customers I've had. He's got a CM 1800,
and his dad has a 1300 X and that manual guy already we're building. And yeah, the 16 years old
responsible, right, like does not want to break the cars. 35 years old will sit there and not
listen to me beat the shit out of it and fucking when it breaks cry fucking Oh, I don't know what
happened. I'm like, dude, the log shows you used anti lag like 37 times in a matter of 10 minutes,
like it's like those old Alex Choi videos just bouncing off the rev limiter with the sheepy cars
dude. And it's like, man, she's made so much money off those flame tunes or whatever, like people
love that stuff. But I saw this one video I forget it wasn't Alex Choi was another guy in California.
Like the whole back of the car is fucking glowing bright red and then it catches on fire. Did you
see that one? I don't know if I had it was like I think a pink STO or I forget what I think it was
some weird car that the whole back of the car and caught on fire because it popped the motor from
sitting like literally I think it was a minute straight of doing fucking anti lag.
You know, everything's glowing bright red and he just keeps going and going and then it's like fire
fire, you know, and it's like you idiot, like who likes destroying stuff, you know,
a whistling diesel, right? But he can make millions of dollars doing it. So he is the,
you know, the exception of the rule, whatever. But even then, like, I mean, he stretches it out
over a few videos. He stretches it out over a few videos. The thing lasts more than fucking like
a minute, you know, like these guys just go and beat this shit out of stuff for no reason. It's
like, why did you buy this? Like, why did you buy a Lamborghini or a Viper or, you know, an R8 or
GT GT as an Nissan? So I'm not going to really can viper's a dodge, but like, you know, just to sit
there and go, whoosh, you know, it's, it's fun every once in a
blue moon for a few seconds, like, you know, whatever. But instead, this guy just hops in a
car that is never driven and just goes and starts railing on it, right? And it's like,
how do you know the thing's not knocking its ass off? Like, thank God, we like,
we're pretty good about the not control strategy and stuff like that and knock even on 93 is
non existent, you know, but like, that's the first things you should do with a car that makes
1500 horsepower is call the builder, call the builder and ask the builder the smart questions.
What should the oil be at? Because this is a car that dealership took in, you know,
that was a fourth or fifth hand viper, you know, is there anything we should be concerned about?
We only have 91 octane here. I built, I did a motor for a guy and we tuned it on the stock ECU.
This is well before we said no more stock ECU stuff. And he lived in Oklahoma, where they have
like ethanol free 90. Okay. Like, in like, he didn't tell me that. And the thing is like, literally
knocking it idle. Like, and when you tune the stock ECU, you have to turn the not control off.
So like, he heard a motor and then like, we tuned it here with what we thought was the
shittiest fuel that we could put it in it. And it still had some issues. And it was finally like,
dude, we're just putting a motec on this thing, you know, but yeah, it's like, people fell to
mention that like, Hey, I don't have 93 octane here. Like, you know, like, that sort of stuff.
And it's, but yeah, that's back to the, let's say I have a twin turbo viper, I'm
two stepping in every stoplight. I actually have to come in because I broke something. What's that
cost? What's the expected? What are you expecting to see broken when somebody just abuses it?
Usually like you cook the valves, right? The short blocks will somewhat stick good,
like unless you pound the bearings out of them. But that's a very rare case. But like, usually
you got to pull the motor out. So you're going to be, you know, I have no sympathy for you on
that you're paying full pop on everything engine in engine out, just the loans about 15 grand,
then you got to take the heads apart, Valgium, you'll be 30 grand into it. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
Just yeah, okay, just for a few pops and banks for a few few pops and bangs. If you have the
fire rings, firing setup, probably a little bit more, just expensive. Sure. You know, but
yeah, I have no sympathy for you wasting my time when I could be making good money doing
other things to fix your pile of shit that you decided to pop and bang all the time. I'm sorry,
like it was cool 10 years ago, like, you know, or once in a blue moon to do it, but not
to the point that you're damaging a car. What about, I saw a video recently, I think it was
a you cruising around. It was like an NA car and you're just popping and banging too. Was it,
I think it was a you? Red one? I think so. I might have been, there's a video that went like,
kind of like viral on Facebook. I think you were tagged in it. I think it was the red car.
There was just a bunch of fire was coming out on the bottom. So yeah, it was my NA car. But yeah,
it's, I mean, it was, I was, they were filming next to me and I just did it for a few seconds,
but it's not a turbo car that's producing boost. Yes, it was retarding timing, but it was like,
like I said, I did it few seconds. Yeah, it was a cool video. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like,
you know, that is probably the once every three years I do it. I was just curious,
cause like stock vipers can't do that. Right. No, no, no. My car is a nine liter on a mo-tag
with high compression, you know, runs on ethanol things like that. Yeah, I was just curious,
like how that worked. Cause I was like, Oh, that's an NA car. Like why is it doing that?
It's still had anti lag, you know, so it's, you're retarding the timing. So it's firing the cylinder
on the, when the exhaust valves are open. Okay, gotcha. So like, no matter what, you're taking
the combustion event and throwing it out the fucking exhaust. Yeah. Okay. That, okay. Yeah,
I guess that makes sense. So instead of the combustion happening in, you know, under pressure
in your cylinders with the valve closed, it's like that, that whole event is happening inside
your turbo. But in my event, my case, I don't have a turbo, so it just goes out the exhaust.
Gotcha. Okay. That was a cool video. That's why I brought it up. It was the one rolling down the
highway, like at night or something. Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't me like being like, gotcha, you do it.
No, no, no, no. That was me doing it. No, that was me. Yeah, I did it. These like, there was like
two BMWs next to me and they were like giving me these thumbs up and this and that. And then we
did a little poll, but like that car, no matter what, when I let off, like when I used to road
race it during the day, people would say like, dude, that thing just splits, splits flames the whole
time even at Kota. You never got to sell that car either. Are you? No. That is, I, if I won the
Powerball, I would give you the stupidest offer for that car because that is one of my favorite
cars on the planet. Yeah. No, I, you know, it's funny. I did that five-wheeled conversion on it.
That's right. And I put it on 20s and it's just, it's, those wheels too are usually like my style
of wheel. And it just, I don't know why it just worked really well on that car. That car just
looks great. Even, you know, we'll do this always whenever I post that car, is like, man,
that is just a really good looking Viper. And for having other shops, top dog, you know,
commenting on how good that car looks, it's always like a little like, you know. Yeah. No, like,
and I've said this on the last episode too, like if there was a perfect Viper, I think you've got it.
I appreciate it. Like, there's a few handfuls out there that I do like,
like Sal's green one is awesome. Yes. That's a beautiful car.
Snake skin green. And I think what's, I think it's a snake skin addition.
I think it's called, I forget. Maybe. Yeah. I forget what it, there was only like 30 of them
built or something like that. Yeah. Because the stripes, if you get close, it's actually like
imprinted snake skin. Oh, it's not just black. Yeah. You got to get real close and you'll see
like this little octagonal kind of weave going down it. And I don't know, it's, I don't know if
it's pain or how they do it, but yeah, it's, it's the stripes actually have something in them.
Huh. Are you going to be a Dodge guy going forward at all? Like for example, like there,
it looks like they're ramping things up. They're going to drop this new street truck. It looks
like like, do you have any Mopar support or you're just kind of like,
the problem is like, I hate to say it, they don't really support their customers. You know, like
everything's discontinued on the Viper. You know, me and Aaron were having to talk about this the
other day. I guess there's a group of people that are trying to get Dodge to sell them the rights
to go to the manufacturer. Like obviously Dodge doesn't make an airbag module, right? But like,
and it's discontinued and they go bad. There's a y'all sensor inside there that like, you know,
eventually breaks. So your slip lights always on. And it's because that y'all sensor only is
meant to see 1.5 Gs, right? So you're having a car that's pulling two and a half Gs or something.
It's pegging that sensor and the sensor thinks the car, or the car thinks it's getting hit from
behind, but it doesn't throw an airbag, right? I didn't know this. I may actually tell me
if the car's keyed on, you flip that thing upside down, it deploys the airbags.
Okay. Yeah, so like, I didn't know that. So yeah, so like, you can't buy those anymore,
they go bad all the time. You can't buy window switches, you can't, there's like,
you know, the fender tubs you can't buy. There's just a lot of stuff. And it's like,
Aaron was saying there's a group of people to go, sorry for repeating myself, but a group of people
trying to buy this from Dodge. And I don't know what happened or the semantics of it. But I think
something along the line, like Dodge will sell it to us or this group of people,
but they want royalties off each sale and became very like complicated convoluted for like,
something you don't want to support anymore that's out there. I mean, the Viper, you know,
I love the car. I really do. I think it's one of the best cars ever built for driving experience.
There's just nothing like it, you know, I'm going to put manual 997 Turbo Viper Toyota Supra,
you know, all kind of in that same category of like manual badass cars. I know the 911
Turbo is all well drive, but like, it's a driver's car. It's not just like a holy
shit, this thing's fast and just did what it, that's kind of like why I like the Huracan R8
platform, but I don't because I can throw like my 19 month old son in the car and he'd probably
fucking rip on it fine. And you know, just you can throw anybody in them and they'll go do something
fast, you know, like it is, it is such a great car. It's almost too good where it's like, it doesn't
take much effort. Now I'm not saying somebody can just go hop in a fucking 260 mile an hour
underground car and it'd be fucking, you know, but like sub 2000 wheel those things just like
straight down Broadway, you know, it doesn't require much skill set. And I think you get these guys
that get in those cars and like, man, I handle a 2000 horsepower R8 without a problem. And then
they get in some other car and that's how different story, different story. Yeah. No, like I've driven
like, you know, 1000 horsepower GT 500, super easy to drive. I could not even imagine jumping in some
other cars. Like it's not, it's not the same across the board. You at least have the mindset, like
let me or the forethought of like, this might be dangerous, you know, I've driven a array of cars.
Most people don't have that. There's like, Oh, it's got four wheels. Yeah, it's got four wheels
and a gas pedal step on it. It goes it like all the ECU will do everything for me until I get myself
in a situation, you know, some we have on the corner over there of the of the street, whenever
this rains, they opened up some granite fucking place up here. And like, a covers everything in
this dust, right? But then B, it washes all down the if you notice this streets of hill,
it goes all to the bottom of the street and collects there. You know, what happens if that
goes a little bit further into the oncoming road, you know what I'm saying? And somebody
is doing a pull in front of my shop and hits that it's a little bit like sand, right? Yeah,
loses it there. Like that's all the other little things people don't think about of like, Oh,
I've done this hit 20 times in the same spot. What happens if somebody has a sprinkler on and
their sprinkler put water in the street that you don't see it and then the car starts doing
something weird and you're not expecting it, right? Because the cars you've never been in that situation
right. As we start to wind down, I have one question I really wanted to touch on. You've done
some Gallardo stuff as well, right? Yes. How different is the hurricane in a Gallardo engine
wise? pre LP five liter, very different. Same concept, but like just a very different engine,
like the bore spacing is different. There's just a lot of differences. The five twos,
it's pretty almost much identical. Well, okay, almost. There's little things that are different.
If I had it my way, I would have a 1250 horsepower five liter in a LP superleggera manual.
If I could mismatch all the shit I want to do in life, like you get the sound of the five liter
with the looks of the LP, that would be like my ultimate Lambo. And just manual something fun,
not doesn't need to be 18 fucking hundred horsepower, just something to cruise to cars and
coffee, get a little jolly out of, you know, that would be and the five liter sound with
turbos, I think is like one of the best sounding. Okay. You mentioned underground there for a second.
Is anybody ever going to catch them at the half mile? I mean, to 60s and insane feet.
I don't know. I mean, I really don't. That's not, we're, people think like, oh, man, you guys went
230, you're creeping up. You're like, dude, we are light years away from fucking 250, right? Like,
the jump and granted, I think that car has got a 240 in it, right? Like the way it sits now.
The difference between 232 and 240 is like the difference from going from like, you know, 180
to 210, right? Like it's, it's a huge gap. So just imagine what the difference from 230 to 260 is,
you know, 28 mile an hour at that speed is, is insane on the flip side of it. I don't think on
any of my customers want to go that fast, you know, that's, well, especially after, you know,
you had that crash, you know, at the half mile, however many years ago now, it's like,
there's so many consequences to going that fast. Yeah. And it's, we actually, Dave is purchasing a,
he realized how fast the, the purpose, and we're going to run it for the rest of the year.
Kind of a little bit more power level, adding a little bit more safety, that's removable.
But he's purchasing a Super Trofeo Evo II. Oh, okay. Because it's already got a cage and we're
going to find like a wrecked car and swap everything over and try to put a DCT in it.
Oh, okay. I see. One of the things that somebody mentioned to me is like, they kind of like,
they also kind of jumped from like, I think they're doing 230s, 240s, and then all of a sudden,
you know, I shouldn't say all of a sudden, but you know, in the 250s, 260s,
is it just a matter of them like figuring out the transmission you think or what are your thoughts?
The, they went 240 in 2016 with Gidey's car, which was a Gallardo. Okay. Right. So he had that
white Super Legera and that was a sequential car. And I think just until recently, correct me if I'm
wrong, I'm not sure. It's obviously, I don't own any of the business, but I feel like they, the big
power cars that were going like the 255 to 260 range all went, were sequential or now DCTs. And
I think Mark Rao's car is still a sequential that, and he holds the record, I believe, don't
quote me on that again, but I do believe Mark holds the record at like 260.8 or 261 or whatever it is,
but that's a sequential car. I also think that's due to the gearing. But the, I think there's a ton
of cars in that two high 240 low 250 range that are all DCT now. Okay. Yeah. Cause I was talking
to Tony yesterday as well as some guy in Europe has some RA. Yeah, that red one. Yeah. That's a
really good looking car. Yeah. What is it like a 10 or a Q automotive or something? I forget what
it's a not, I, it's, I forget the name. It's like a letter and a number. But yeah, it's, I think
it's got all like the coils on the back firewall or on the X brace or something. It's a good looking
car. And I think Tony said that thing should go. It went to 250, 250, 350 or something.
With the old setup. So yeah, no, I think also it's unfair to compare numbers from other countries.
Like, you know, the timing equipment could be different the way they do it. I know like Jason
uses like an average speed of the, your last hundred feet or something. But it's,
there's so many different ways to clock it or, you know, and I'm not trying to take anything
away from anybody, right? But there's just, it's hard to different event coordinator, different,
you know, like it seemed like everybody at that Omega thing went way faster than their cars
physically can, you know, there was a Viper that went to 246 that supposedly made 2500 horsepower.
We know 2500 will not get you 246. Yeah. I think everybody, I found that comment section. It was,
everybody was like, yeah, that's not real. Yeah. And it sucks because it's good promoting for your
business, but like at the same time, it's not reality, you know, so, you know, unfortunately,
like, it should just be nipped in the bud that that was not a true pass, you know. Yeah. I mean,
it still probably went pretty fast, I imagine. But something had to have been off with the time
because it was going like 209, 212, 213, then 246. Yeah, that's a big jump. Yeah. You're not,
you're not picking that up. And you're just, you're not, you're in the fastest of 23 to 2500
horsepower car will go is in realistically that mid 220s. So you are 20 mile an hour
outside your reality range when you are still 10 mile an hour, 10 to 13 mile an hour short of what
the car was even capable of, you know, that's, that should be a t-shirt. By the way, you're
outside of your reality range. More people need to hear that.
I think we covered just about everything. The only car we didn't get an update on,
the purple gen three, was it a gen three, whatever your personal car or weren't you gonna do some
drag race? Some I have a gray carbon gen three. Oh, it might have been gray. Yeah, it's gray, gray,
gray black and it's all flat colors, gray black with a red stripe. That is in the same exact spot,
in the same exact, uh, in the same exact condition of when we last spoke. So yeah,
because I think at the time you're talking about maybe turning that into some sort of drag car
or something. It's going to be, it's probably like gonna be when my son's 16. It's not a priority.
It's not a priority. I would love for it to be. Um, I really want to finish the Huracan. I want to
finish Dave's car. I want to finish Joseph's car. Joseph has the other drag car that's sitting next
to the drag and drive. Okay. That's the one that the front bumper was, that carbon front bumper
was molded off of. Okay, gotcha. Well, shoot, man, before I pop my usual three questions, uh,
my final question, I suppose, anything else you wanted to touch on? That's it. I think it's been a
good, uh, a good, uh, you know, podcast wasn't like, what was the last one, like three hours long
or something? Hour and 30? Oh, shorter than this one. Yeah, because you had to get going that day.
Yeah. It was a busy day, but awesome. Uh, the usual three. At the end of every
episode, I like to ask this question and it goes like this. You have to pick three cars. You have
to pick a daily car, a track car and a show car. You have an unlimited budget. Build whatever you
want. However you want to do it. A daily, oh man. Um, a daily 911 turbo. You want like a new turbo
s or something? Yeah, new turbo s for a daily. Okay. New turbo s for a daily. I think that's the
all around best everything. Um, full blown track car. Any kind of track?
Like drag strip or circuit or your choice? Oh man. Um, you like turning, I heard. Yeah. Oh man.
I like that's what I kind of like went for. Um, you know, uh, Rafa has this, I think it's called a
720 X. Yeah, I've seen that. Uh, and I think Cameron Lawrence went sub, uh, two minutes at
Coda with it. Like a one, uh, one minute, 58 seconds or something. Okay. Um, what's it for
context? What'd you do in your Viper at Coda? Like a two 17. Okay. So that's light years ahead.
Yeah. Um, yeah. 17 seconds is no, yeah. 18, 18 seconds. 19 seconds. Do you know, like if we
stopped talking for 17 seconds, you know how long that would feel like? Yeah. Yeah. Nobody realizes
like how, yeah, it's, um, I, when I talked to Cameron, he said this thing is so awesome. I think
Colin, Colin was telling me we had dinner the other night. He's got a stock 765 that he
just aligned to put tires on. And I think they were like Trafeo ours he was using. And I want to say
I know for a fact he was to go on like 14s flat, which is like ungodly fast. But I think he said
he was on his way to like a 12 flat. Um, and he had some traffic, but like the his, I guess,
what are they called your, if you loop together the turns of all your best five laps or something,
it'll put it all together and this is optimal, optimal. Right. Uh, his optimal would have been
like a fucking 10 or something. So that's insane. That's insane for a stock car. Um,
you know, Colin's a very good driver and he's, you know, he's got years of dialing his old
McLaren suspension and we used to fuck with it all the time at the shop. So I think, uh, you know,
good driver, lots of experience, lots of setup time. Um, but I'm not a McLaren person. I just,
that car always in it looks sick. Okay. So you're locking that in this time? Yeah. And then you said
it's show car, show car, go take the wife out to get some ice cream. Maybe even the kids now see
those two now. Man. Um, I would love to do like a Lincoln continental. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That or
the other, uh, the other car I would really love to do a project one day as a rest of mod, like
1940 to 1944 Chevy pickup, you know, to have those really edged, like those wedged front front grills.
I would love to do one of those. Okay. You that or the continental, which one would you go with?
Oh man. Continental. Continental. I love the truck. The truck's really cool. Okay. Um,
it would be a toss up, but I think I'm leaning towards continental. Um, because the kids could
fit in the back. That was just a bench seat. That, that, that would be the deciding factor,
but no kids, maybe the truck. Okay. Fair enough. Awesome. On that note, where can everybody find
you? Uh, reach us at calvamotorsports.com. Um, or on Instagram and Facebook, Calvamotorsports.
If you want to send me a private message, which I rather you not, but okay. You know, Antonio
Calvo. Um, but yeah, that's, that's about it. Do you delete requests sometimes? I delete every
once in a while. I usually respond to them, but there's sometimes, you know, the funniest thing is
Kevin at underground told me to do this. He goes, this is how you weed out the first people when
you're trying to get people for a job. You put an ad right on your social media and in the ad,
you say your first job is not to contact me is to send your resume. Do not contact your,
the social media outlets, right? Send your resume to the email provided
and you would be blown. How many people would just message you, I need a job. And it's like,
well, you can't read or listen to fucking instructions. So you're right off the bat.
You're, you're, you're disqualified before you even started, you know,
that's good advice. Okay. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for having me again.
It's awesome. Yeah. Thank you everybody for listening and we'll see y'all next time.
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Calvo is back for round two — this time we're diving deep into the Lamborghini Huracan platform, new business ventures, an update on the drag and drive car, TX2K recap, and much more. T