This is a type of oil for your engine. “Full synthetic” means it’s made to handle heat better and protect the engine from wear. Using the right oil helps your car last longer and run smoother.
NASCAR is a type of auto racing where teams compete with race-prepped cars on oval tracks. The way teams are run and the rules for the cars strongly affect results over a season.
Topic
car store race
They mention a race that happened on Sunday, but the transcript sounds unclear on the exact name. It’s mainly there to explain what racing they missed while traveling.
They’re talking about a restaurant and a vodka brand teaming up to make a special drink. The drink is being offered at Texas Roadhouse locations, including a rollout beyond the local area.
Talladega is a famous race track. When people say they’re “running laps,” it usually means they’re practicing the track and testing how the car behaves over many turns and laps.
Topic
Cars Tour race
The “Cars Tour” is a regional stock-car series, and the hosts discuss attending it at Caraway. For fans, this matters because setup, tire wear, and competition level can differ from top-tier NASCAR events.
Topic
Pro-late models and late model stock race
“Pro-late models” and “late model stock” are different classes within short-track racing, typically with different rules and levels of modification. The distinction affects car preparation, tire usage, and how teams approach setup.
A “set of tires” is a major consumable cost in racing, and the hosts quantify its impact on a weekend budget. They also explain the giveaway mechanism and that the tires are “comped,” meaning provided at no cost to the selected teams.
The Chevrolet Corvette is a sports car built for fast driving and strong handling. People often talk about upgrades like tires and other parts because they can make the car grip the road better. This episode mentions Corvette parts, meaning it’s focused on maintaining or improving the car’s performance.
Practice is the on-track time teams use to dial in car setup and learn tire behavior before qualifying and the race. The hosts tie practice to overall weekend expense, highlighting how quickly costs add up.
Diesel fuel is mentioned as part of the operating costs for a race team. In motorsports, fuel costs can include not just the race fuel, but also logistics and support vehicles.
A pit pass is a ticket/credential that lets you get into the pit area. That’s where teams work on the cars between laps, so it’s a more restricted area than the stands.
Short track racing happens on smaller tracks with shorter laps. Because it’s tighter and more competitive, small changes and good tire management can make a big difference.
It just means the cars that finish first, second, and third. In this program, those top three teams are the ones that move on to the next round for the money.
Pit road is the lane where teams work on the car. Drivers have a speed limit there, and if they go too fast they can get penalties or lose track position.
Lionel Racing makes official NASCAR diecast model cars you can collect. The hosts are basically telling you where to buy the models they’re talking about.
Term
tailpiece
A “tailpiece” is the part of the car at the back—often the rear styling or spoiler area. The host is using it to figure out whose car setup or branding it resembles.
In racing fandom, calling something a “unicorn” usually means it’s rare or hard to find—like a specific driver’s fans, a special photo, or a unique piece of memorabilia. It’s not a technical racing term; it’s a shorthand for rarity.
They’re talking about Wall Stadium, a race track in New Jersey. The point is that it’s been around a long time and is one of the last remaining asphalt tracks there.
They’re saying the track got a makeover—new branding and a fresh paint job. That kind of refresh can make the place feel more exciting and help bring in more people to race and watch.
Topic
modified racers
“Modified racers” refers to a class of race cars that are altered from stock specifications to improve performance and meet series rules. The hosts connect this class to Wall Stadium’s history and current plans for racing there.
In NASCAR, the crew chief is like the team’s strategist. If they change mid-season, it can affect pit decisions and how the car is adjusted for each race.
Car
Kyle Busch
Kyle Busch is the driver being discussed. The idea here is that changing the crew chief might help the team get better results.
Car
number eight car
NASCAR cars are identified by race numbers. The “#8 car” means the entry that Kyle Busch drives for that team.
Company
iogir
The transcript mentions a workplace name that sounds like “iogir,” but it’s not clear exactly which organization it is. The point being made is that Jim Pullman had been there a long time.
Richard Childers is quoted as explaining why the team made the change. The message is basically that they’re trying to put the right people in the right roles to improve results.
Radio chatter is what the driver and pit/crew talk about over the radio. Sometimes those conversations get leaked or discussed publicly, which can make the situation feel bigger than it is.
RCR refers to Richard Childress Racing, a major NASCAR team. The transcript discusses whether Kyle Busch would stay with RCR or move elsewhere, which affects team resources, car development, and crew leadership.
Pit strategy is the plan for when and how the car stops in the pits. The timing can make a big difference in track position and how well the tires work.
Making a big change partway through the season can be risky because the team needs time to adjust. Race teams learn and improve over several weekends, not overnight.
“Running up front” means consistently competing near the lead—contending for top positions rather than mid-pack. In NASCAR, that typically requires strong car setup, effective pit strategy, and clean execution across runs.
“End of my runway” is a metaphor for a limited remaining window to achieve goals. In motorsports, it often reflects a driver’s age and motivation to secure wins or championships before their performance peak—or opportunity—wanes.
A “rebuild” or a team “not ready to win” describes a season where the organization is still developing competitiveness—often due to changes in car performance, personnel, or technical direction. Drivers who want immediate results may resist joining projects that are expected to take time to reach victory-level performance.
They’re talking about timing in the sense of when the team makes decisions during a race. The debate is whether the driver is causing the issues or whether the team’s calls are off.
“Cup championships” refers to winning the NASCAR Cup Series season title, which is determined by points accumulated across races. It’s not just about winning one race—teams need consistent performance, good strategy, and strong finishes throughout the year. The discussion contrasts raw talent with the ability to contend for that full-season goal.
They’re saying that when a driver moves into a new situation, it usually takes time to adjust. Early on, the driver may not be as fast or consistent while they learn the car and team. Over time, that experience can turn into better results.
Concept
salary savings vs reinvestment in engineering
The segment suggests that swapping drivers/roles might reduce one cost (like salary) but still requires spending elsewhere to improve performance. In racing teams, money often gets reinvested into engineering, development, and car setup resources to close performance gaps. The underlying idea is that cost-cutting alone doesn’t guarantee better results without technical improvement.
The segment frames a team’s need to improve as a response to being consistently “not fast” or not producing results. That kind of performance pressure often drives organizational changes—like new leadership, process changes, or staffing—to close the gap.
Even if a crew chief is really good, they still have to work with the team every day. If the team is far away, the commute or moving can make the job harder to take.
Concept
recruiting in
“Recruiting in” implies bringing in personnel (like crew members or leadership) to improve results. In motorsports, hiring decisions are often about matching experience, communication style, and technical approach to the driver and car program.
Term
car performs
When they say the car “performs,” they mean how fast and how well it drives during the race. It’s not just the engine—it’s also the setup and how the team adjusts based on what they’re seeing.
Concept
mind made up / hard to turn it off
This is a psychological/organizational concept: once a team member decides they’re done, it can be difficult to fully commit to the process. In racing, that can affect collaboration and the willingness to keep iterating on setup and strategy.
Concept
team relationship breakdown
They’re basically saying the change happens because someone feels the relationship or results aren’t working. When that happens, it can affect how the team and driver talk and agree on what to fix.
This is a NASCAR race that’s sponsored by O’Reilly Auto Parts. When fans talk about a driver’s “O’Reilly race” results, they’re usually talking about how the car and team performed in an actual race, not just practice.
The crew chief is like the team’s strategist and setup leader. “Dialed in” means they made the car work really well—so it drives fast and handles predictably.
“Coming off pit road” is a key procedural moment in NASCAR because it’s when cars rejoin the race after service. It often frames strategy discussions—timing, track position, and how the field reacts once everyone cycles through pit stops.
Talladega is a track where cars often run in tight groups to go faster together. NASCAR is concerned about how some drivers were getting in front of the pack at a specific spot on the track, because that can change how the whole group moves.
A drivers meeting is like a pre-race huddle. Officials and drivers talk about what to expect and any rules or safety notes before the cars hit the track.
They’re talking about how, during COVID, racing instructions and updates shifted to emails and videos instead of face-to-face meetings. The concern is that people don’t pay as much attention when it’s not in person.
Concept
pull up in front of the pack
This sounds like a habit of getting ahead of the main group in a way that’s not how officials want it done. The speaker thinks it’s becoming normal when it shouldn’t be.
Sometimes drivers try to slow other cars down so they can’t work together as a group. But if it’s done in a way NASCAR considers unsafe or against the rules, officials will step in.
On a NASCAR track, there are usually a couple of “lanes” where cars can run fast. The “third lane” is an extra line some drivers use to gain an advantage when the track allows it.
A defensive move is when a driver places their car to make it harder for someone else to pass. It’s basically “don’t come through here” positioning on the track.
They’re talking about race rules and penalties. If a driver blocks or moves in a way officials think is unfair or unsafe, NASCAR can hand out a penalty.
A “precedent” is what NASCAR has done before in similar situations. If NASCAR already penalized something once, drivers expect the same kind of action to get penalized again.
In NASCAR-style racing, a “pack” is a bunch of cars bunched up together. When there are a lot of cars together, it’s harder to pass and you have to be careful about where you line up.
This is basically cars trying to merge into a faster group. If you do it at the wrong time, you can mess up everyone’s spacing and make it harder to go fast.
It means someone cuts ahead of you when you’re trying to line up and go. In racing, that can be viewed as unfair because it can mess with your plan and momentum.
“Against the code” refers to informal, unwritten sportsmanship rules in motorsports—behavior that drivers generally avoid even if it’s not strictly illegal. In this context, it’s about not interfering with how other cars are trying to run their practice laps and manage pack position.
To “impede the pack” means to slow down or interfere with a group of cars behind you. Because NASCAR cars run so close, even small interference can force other drivers to react suddenly.
The “unwritten code” refers to informal driver etiquette in racing—like not deliberately blocking or pulling in front of faster cars. Even when rules don’t explicitly cover every situation, drivers often follow shared expectations to reduce chaos and collisions.
“Turned over” means a car gets flipped or rolls over, usually after a crash or loss of control. The speaker is saying NASCAR wants to stop the behavior before it causes wrecks like that.
Blocking is when a driver tries to stop another car from passing. It can be legal or illegal depending on the exact situation and how the driver moves.
Topic
Turn 2 / one and two (oval cornering context)
They’re talking about specific corners on an oval track. Where you are coming out of those turns—and how you line up afterward—can make a big difference in how safe and effective a pass or merge is.
Topic
Talladega vs Daytona driving rules/behavior
They’re talking about how two famous NASCAR ovals feel different to drive. Even if the cars are similar, the track layout and where you’re allowed to run changes how aggressive drivers can be.
Concept
apron vs staying on the yellow
Race tracks have different zones: the main racing groove and the extra paved area near it. Drivers sometimes try to use the extra area to pass or position the car, but each track has different limits and grip, so what works at one place can be risky at another.
They’re saying that at some tracks, you’re not truly driving the lower lane the whole time—you’re basically sliding back up to the main racing line. That change affects how the car handles and how stable it feels.
They’re talking about Pocono and how some drivers get very aggressive after Turn 2. Instead of following the safer line, they run it hard toward the wall, and it sounds like the track sometimes lets that happen.
“Turn three” is just the name of one of the track corners. If a big crash happens there, it’s usually because a lot of cars are trying to go through the same place at speed.
“Four wide” or “five wide” means several cars are trying to race next to each other at the same time. It’s exciting, but it’s also dangerous because there’s less space if someone makes a mistake.
A fastest lap is just the quickest time a driver can do for one lap. It usually means they’re pushing hard, and that can be tricky if the car is bouncing, tires are getting worn, or there’s traffic.
“Blew my tire” means a tire failure that can cause sudden loss of grip and instability. In racing, tire failures often happen from high loads, debris, or overheating, and they can lead to immediate handling changes and potential contact with other cars.
“Yo-yoing” here means the driver keeps changing speed and position to slip between cars. It can help you find space, but it also makes you more vulnerable if the pack suddenly crashes.
The “left front” is the front-left side of the car. If something hits that corner, teams may need to check or fix parts there before the car can drive safely again.
Concept
Arte
“Arte” sounds like a track name, but the clip doesn’t say which one. Drivers mention specific tracks to explain how hard it is to see and how dangerous traffic can be there.
The Dodge Challenger is a muscle car, which means it’s designed to be powerful and quick. It’s known for its big-engine options and a sporty, bold design. The podcast mentions it in a way that suggests the car’s name and reputation are part of the conversation.
Concept
"knock it out every night" (consistent performance)
They’re basically saying the driver/team kept performing well over and over. In racing, that means you don’t just have one good run—you stay competitive until the end.
Concept
"to the finish line" (checkered-flag mindset)
They’re talking about getting to the end of the race. In racing, you have to keep it together right up to the finish, not just early on.
Concept
"door of opportunity" (momentum/late-race advantage)
They’re saying if one person starts slipping late, it gives others a chance to win. Racing outcomes often come down to what happens near the end.
Concept
"faltering down the stretch" (late-race fade)
They mean the driver started slowing down near the end. That can happen if something’s wrong with the car or the tires aren’t working as well anymore.
Concept
"whatever was ailing him" (unidentified car issue)
They’re hinting that something was wrong with the car or the driver’s situation. In racing, even a small problem can make you slower, especially late in the race.
Concept
"a lot riding on ... winning that award" (season-long stakes)
This highlights how season awards are typically tied to performance over the whole year, not just one race. In NASCAR-style contexts, those stakes can affect team momentum, sponsorship confidence, and future opportunities.
Concept
Flag rookie of the year
This is talking about a “Rookie of the Year” type award for a new driver. The point is that winning (or not winning) can make a driver more marketable, which can change how much attention and money they attract early on.
Concept
face of a franchise
This phrase means the driver (or player) who becomes the main star people associate with the team. When someone is treated like the “face,” they usually get more attention and more support.
Topic
Charlotte's small market
They’re basically saying Charlotte doesn’t get treated like a big media market, so they feel like they don’t get the same opportunities. That can affect how much attention sponsors and the industry give to a team.
Concept
pace car rides
During a race, there’s usually a pace car that leads the drivers when things slow down. Getting a ride in it is like getting a guided lap around the track, usually during the event.
Topic
Charlotte street course race
A street-course race is run on regular streets that are closed for racing. It’s usually tighter and bumpier than a normal track, so the cars behave differently and drivers have to be more precise.
Topic
Chicago street course race
Chicago street-course racing means the track is made from city streets. Because it’s not built like a purpose-built race track, drivers and teams have to adjust how they handle and manage tires.
Concept
undercover boss kind of thing
It’s like a show where the boss goes undercover to see what the job is really like. Here, they’re using that idea to describe a situation where the host wants the real story.
Concept
draft picks
A draft pick is basically a team’s turn to choose a new player from college or other eligible talent. Good draft picks can become starters and help the team improve over time.
Concept
first round pick
The first round of a draft is where teams pick the most highly regarded prospects. Those picks are valuable, so teams pay close attention to who they end up selecting.
The Jeep Commander is a mid-size SUV, meaning it’s made for transporting people and everyday cargo. It’s built to be practical, with room for passengers and a driving setup meant for regular use. The podcast mentions “Commander” as the vehicle being discussed.
0% financing means you can pay over time without extra interest charges. It can make the purchase cheaper than a normal loan, depending on other discounts.
They reference “Vegas” as a prior race to compare against Texas. In NASCAR analysis, looking back at performance at a different venue helps judge whether a driver’s early-season success is repeatable or track-specific.
They’re asking whether what a driver did at one race will likely show up again at the next one. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn’t because tracks are different.
A race track is the course the cars drive on during a race. Different tracks have different turns and speeds, so teams often adjust the car to match the track.
A caution is when the race slows down because something happened on the track. When that happens, teams may change their plan—like when to pit or how aggressively to race.
Engine failure means the engine had a serious problem and the car couldn’t keep running. In racing, that usually ends the race early and can be a sign something needs fixing before the next event.
A “mile and a half” race is at a track that’s roughly 1.5 miles long. Those tracks usually race a certain way—steady speed and longer driving stints—so teams often have to set up the car differently than they would for shorter tracks.
They’re saying the same drivers keep showing up near the front. When that happens repeatedly, it usually means the cars are working well and the teams are doing a good job each week.
This is basically a matchup story: Suarez vs. Chastain. When two drivers don’t get along (or have history), they may race each other more aggressively, which can change how the race plays out.
Kansas refers to Kansas Speedway, where the racing line and grip window can be narrower than at some other tracks. When the “window” is tight, small setup or driving errors can lead to mistakes more easily.
The “groove” is the part of the track that usually has the best grip. If you’re in the groove, the car feels faster and more stable; if you’re off it, you can lose speed.
The “cushion” is the upper part of the turn where drivers try to stay to keep the car moving fast. It can be tricky to hit consistently, so it matters a lot for lap times.
Qualifying position is where a driver lines up before the race. If you start farther back, it’s usually harder to get into the front pack quickly and make the race strategy work.
Average finish is just a way to measure how often someone ends up in a good position. Instead of looking at one race, it averages many races to show whether the driver is usually strong.
Topic
comparing drivers' speed vs consistency
They’re arguing about whether the driver who’s fastest in races is always the best, or if the driver who finishes well more often is the better one. They compare both “how fast” and “how reliably good” using recent results.
They’re listing where drivers finished in several races to see who’s actually performing better overall. If someone keeps landing in decent spots across different tracks, that usually means they’re more consistently fast.
The “All Star race” is a big special NASCAR event, not a normal points race. Winning it usually means the driver and team were really on top of their game that day.
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This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half.
I don't know if we've ever argued. Did I piss you off over the weekend or?
I'm still sour that I want the best man at your win.
Who was your best man, Dale?
TJ.
TJ.
You don't need a cool vest for that race. What are you thinking?
Get him, TJ. That's the way it's starting to show.
All right then.
Welcome back to another episode of the Dale Jr. Download. It's Tuesday here with my co-host,
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We have the meats. We also have Carson Hosevar coming in studio for today's show to talk about
his big win.
Race winner.
Yeah, he is indeed. And let's get right into it.
So first off, we got a lot to cover in NASCAR in general.
But there's also a lot of things that I wanted to include into our show today.
And I'm just going to run through a couple of these things before we dive into the NASCAR stuff.
So Jerky Boys Beef Jerky. Greatest Jerky in the world.
If you haven't tried it, you ought to try it.
You can get it online or on Amazon on the website.
I'll just get it on Amazon if I were you.
But I'm going to sign 1500 bags.
And those are going to go into random shipments.
Oh, yeah.
So where you've been talking about a fun way in the car collecting has given me this idea, right?
I'm trying to make an experience like opening up a deck, you know, open up a pack of cards and
finding that that refractor or whatever.
So I'm going to sign 1500 bags and over the next several months,
we're going to be dropping them into shipments or placing them into shipments.
You know, if you subscribe for a year or do something extraordinary such as that,
you're liable to get one of these bags.
Also, I want to make gold bags.
That's the that's the move that's coming down the road.
That's one thing.
So excited about that.
Also, Amy and I took a trip Sunday.
I missed a lot of racing action.
We had the car store race on Sunday.
We had we had the cup race happening, but I was on an airplane flying to Nashville
to meet with over 2500 people that are franchisees and operators for Texas Roadhouse.
Oh, yeah, Texas Roadhouse and
High Rock Vodka have partnered up to make a drink.
And you may have seen this locally or in your neck of the woods.
It's called the Dale.
Yeah, it is a drink that's been on the menu for a while.
And if you like cream sickle or orange cream, sickle ice cream, this drink is a lot like that.
So it's amazing.
It's a great drink and it's on the menu right on the table.
If you go to a Texas Roadhouse, you'll see it there where they're going nationwide with this drink.
And so we went out to Texas Roadhouse to celebrate with them in Nashville.
That was a ton of fun.
Amy had a blast.
I had a blast.
So that's what what we were doing this this weekend as guys were in Talladega running laps.
We were meeting with a lot of franchisees and owners and operators with Texas Roadhouse.
But I did catch up on a lot of the race.
I also did watch the cars tour race.
The cars tour, they were in Caraway.
I went Saturday with the intention of seeing the race that night,
but it ended up raining right around seven o'clock and we were going to fire off and start.
So I went home.
Everybody else came back the next day on Sunday and we raced it two o'clock.
We had two great races with the pro-late models.
Caden Honeycutt won the pro-late model and the late model stock race was won by Len and Lewis.
And there were a couple of significant things that happened that weekend.
One of the first was we gave away our first two sets of tires.
And this is presented by Keen Parts with Corvette Parts.net.
Mr. Keen calls and says, I want to give tires away, but I want to give them to teams that need them.
So we take the back five finishers from the week before at Nashville,
and we literally draw out of a hat one of them teams.
And at the next event, they get a free set of tires.
The set of tires they're going to race on are comped.
A set of tires today cost about $860.
And that's roughly a third or a little more than a third of the entire expense of the weekend.
And so I think these teams are, you know, it cost about $2,200 to get to the racetrack
and put your car out there for practice.
By the time you go out to practice, you've spent $2,200.
You bought two sets of tires, pit passes, diesel fuel, all that stuff, right?
We gave away our first two sets of tires at Caraway.
I love this program.
Thank you, Mr. Keen.
Tom's great.
They've been a staple for a long time in short track stuff.
I've noticed that name.
They do a bunch of great s***.
So also our Florian program, basically it's every three weeks,
Flow is giving away $10,000 to a race team who wins this Florian program.
All right.
For the pro-late model stocks, their next week to trigger this will be at Wilkesboro.
The late model stocks will be racing for their $10,000 Florian money at the next race at ACE
in two weeks.
So what happens is we run two races and of those two races, the top three finishers
are in the Florian program for the third event.
At the third event, those cars will race for $10,000.
The cars that are in the Florian program for ACE, going for $10,000,
which is actually more than the race itself pays the winner, the 88JRM team,
the four-matte Peerce team, 29K HI, 44 carol speed shop, and 89 Mike Darn.
It's the car that wins the money.
I've got to name the drivers.
They'll be in these cars, but it is the team itself, the owner that will be racing for this.
Pretty exciting.
A lot of great things going on in the cars tour right now.
We had a great race on Sunday, and I'm looking forward to ACE.
I'm going to try to get there.
Also, TJ, me and your big-time collectors in the card game.
I think you've surpassed me now.
I know, man.
I'm in over my head, but you've probably pulled the coolest card last week
than any of us had.
I mean, that's pretty good for not buying it.
You know what I mean?
Like, not buying it by itself, like pulling it out of a pack yourself is pretty fun.
Yeah, buying it's not the same as ripping it.
Yeah, getting that card that he got last week was pretty big.
I got a Griffey downtown.
What was your reaction when you saw it?
I mean, you had to be like, whoa.
I almost, if you want me to be honest,
I pulled this last night at King Griffey Jr.
Leaf 1992 and PSA 10, $525 card.
I'm not much in collecting NASCAR, but I'm getting converted.
The cards look good.
They do.
I got a pre-sotto.
Oh, yeah.
But I got you, man.
I got you a card in here.
I'm going to try to find it.
I don't want to waste a bunch of time here.
I know Travis is like, get this show.
He's always like that.
If you were Danny, he'd be like, take your time, Danny.
That's right.
Take your time, Dennis.
I got a special gift, TJ.
Take your time, Dennis.
Try to figure out where it is.
I got it.
Where was Danny Sunday?
Why did he take the race off?
He was driving really fast.
Are we going?
Yeah.
So that had to, that was terrible timing for it too.
What happened?
Just sped going under pit.
Oh, Danny's speeding on pit road.
Yeah.
Nothing's new.
And we ran so long.
Then he's always speeding on pit road.
It's, does he know, does he recognize he's a habitual speeder?
I think he does.
I don't, I don't get it.
It's the worst penalty you can get to.
What don't you get?
Yeah, it's the worst penalty.
I don't get how he continues to make it.
He made it at the worst time because everyone.
You don't get how he continues to make it.
Yeah, we don't understand that.
Make what?
Continue to speed.
Yeah.
You don't get how he continues to f**k up.
Especially this one.
You're, you're king.
Like it's the one thing you can't do.
You're king.
Yeah.
You're king keeps f**king up.
Need to tell you king.
He's not looking at his face.
No, I'm with him.
Like it made the race awful for me.
Like I'm with him.
Like he needs to stop f**king up.
Yes.
Danny, are you listening?
Your king needs to stop.
That's on behalf of the bros.
That's going to be the, somehow that's a shirt.
Travis is king or the king with an 11.
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
Man.
The king.
Travis is hard.
DJ.
We're going to go through every card here.
Well, we're getting there.
How was the sleepover?
Were they up late?
So yeah.
Ayla had Ayla's birthdays this weekend.
Everybody shout out.
And so Amy had a little sleepover with some friends.
So we had three little girls in the house.
And that's always a, you know, having children is mind blowing.
Um, and you think about, you know, you often think about, uh, putting some scenarios and
you're sitting there going, man, how the, I can't believe this is my life, right?
You know what I'm saying?
But nothing's more nerve wracking, I would say, than when you have someone else's child in your
house and they spend the night.
Did you have that feeling when T.J., when you, uh, when you had your first sleepover,
where you like, because it's a, you're responsible for your own child.
And that's enough of, that's enough of the, it's not a challenge, but it's like,
you know, you handle that, you manage that.
But then when you have someone else's child in your, in your home and in your care,
man, the, the intensity goes up.
Yeah, it's definitely not as, um, I don't know.
It would really bother me, but I can see you.
I know exactly what you mean.
T.J. doesn't go about your kids daily.
Like, I mean, like when someone, I have another person's child.
I'm like, you know, I mean, I definitely think like, I get more like they're all swimming
in the swimming pool and they're jumping off rocks and I'm like, you know, I could, you're
definitely on alert then.
Yeah.
I'm like, God, I need to, I'm gonna sit here.
I'm like a full time lifeguard, lifeguard all of a sudden.
You're definitely like that.
You're, you're alert in the house.
You're just waiting for the big thump on the floor and be like, everybody okay?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're definitely, I don't want to send somebody's kid home with a knot on their head.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Well, I mean, one of mine's had a broke leg.
The other ones had a broke arm.
So it happened in my house disclaimer.
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
There it is.
I found it.
Sorry.
Was that a scare jump scare?
Sorry.
All right, buddy.
It's for you, man.
I don't know this dude.
Oh.
All right.
But this is a number card one of one.
This is number 92 of 199.
It's an, it's a sticker auto, not an own card auto, but gotcha.
I pulled it man.
And that's for you.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's their, that's their number one draft pick last year.
So all right.
Nice.
Appreciate it.
Nice case.
Yeah, buddy.
You know, little sticker.
I'm always looking out.
Yeah.
Maxwell Hairston.
Maxwell Hairston had a great year.
First pick was against Patrick Mahomes.
When I see a, when I see a bills player, I set it to the side.
It's, it's going to be TJ's unless it's like, of course, it's, you know,
a thousand dollar card or some I don't know that let's, I mean, I would give you
my Jaden Daniels card if I had it.
Yeah.
But I mean, I'm scared.
I'm not, I don't expect you to give me cards of massive value.
If you, if you pulled a Josh Allen, like really good card,
hand me that card.
I'll scan it.
I'd expect you to sell it to me at least at a really good price.
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Damn, you went extra big on the case.
It come like this, brother.
Jeez.
They don't trust you anymore, then.
Okay.
What are you talking about?
They don't trust me.
That case is gigantic.
This is?
No, on your phone.
Oh, my case.
Yeah, your phone case.
Oh, what do you mean it's gigantic?
Look at how big it is.
It fits the phone.
What the f*** do you mean?
Doesn't that look big?
Look at the phone.
The phone is big.
Also, my buddy Jimmy Blewitt just texted me.
It is Wall Stadium's 76th year of operation.
And it is the oldest and last standing asphalt track in New Jersey.
Two friends of Jimmy Blewitt's leased it so it wouldn't close this year.
They were a threat to close.
But two of his friends have leased the racetrack to operate it this coming season.
And Jimmy, his family, his friends, a lot of the racing community got out
over the last, I don't know, six weeks and just did an entire rebrand and paint and
fresh coat of paint and cleanup of this racing facility.
Historic place.
True X's race there, a lot of great racers.
A lot of modified racers have ran at Wall Stadium.
And, but they're back at it.
Jimmy Blewitt, I think he's found, you know, Jimmy's a great guy.
He's been on our show and they're going to be running that racetrack this year.
I'm hoping that they have an incredible season.
But their season kicks off this weekend, Saturday night, May 2nd.
I believe it's May 2nd.
So Wall Stadium, if you're out there around in Jersey.
Go support it.
Go support it.
Yeah.
And I'm not sure if they're on flow or if they've got a streaming partner.
But if they do, I have watched some of their stuff before, I believe.
I'd love to watch it.
I'm pretty sure it is.
Earl used to be.
All right.
So crew chief change for the eight car.
Andy Street will assume crew chief responsibilities for Kyle Busch
in the number eight car and a cup series.
He worked alongside with Bush at the end of last year when,
when they were making a crew chief change, Jim Pullman left junior motorsports.
He had been with iogir forever.
He won us.
Yep.
Won us a championship.
We're extremely thankful for Jim.
But he will transition into a leadership role within the competition department.
Richard Childers says this is a move about putting our best people in the best position
to succeed.
Yada, yada, yada.
We all know, you know, they just haven't had the results.
It's been tough.
There's been a lot of radio chatter that's become public.
And there's been a lot of focus on that radio chatter like that between guys,
you know, between within teams is not uncommon.
A lot of them are doing that on a weekly basis.
It's just highlighted because it's Kyle Busch.
And he's, he's struggling unlike Kyle Busch, you know, unlike Kyle Busch.
He's just having a tough year.
And it's tough.
I've been in this situation, man, when you make make a make a change mid season,
it is really hard to to find positivity and try to figure out like how to be hopeful
that things are going to improve.
I think this one is very challenging here because it seems like they've lost a little
bit as a whole.
So you got to find that and have a good relationship with this new driver and
Well, you know, everybody's wondering what's what's Kyle going to do?
Is he going to stay with RCR?
Is he not?
That was just a really tough situation all around.
Jim, Jim was, you know, I think Jim here at Junior Motorsports, he had kind of gotten
to the end of the runway.
He was like, you know, I've kind of, I need, I need a new challenge.
This ain't getting it.
This ain't doing it.
He got it and cups calling.
It's hard to turn that down.
Well, Mike Dilling called me.
He's like, Hey, can we talk to Jim?
We really looking for somebody to crew chief Kyle's car next year.
And we'd love to have Jim back.
Jim used to work at RCR years ago.
They wanted to, they saw he was comp, you know, what he was able to do with Justin.
I think they underestimated just how good Justin was.
But they, they brought Jim on board.
I told Jim, I said, Hey, Jim, Jim was like, if I'm staying with Junior Motorsports,
I've got a long list of things that I'd like to see change or improve or operations,
just on floor operations, things that he thought could run smoother, better, make his job easier.
So we were working kind of through that with him.
And some of that stuff could change.
Some of it wasn't going to change.
And I was like, Hey, man, you know what, I want you to stay.
We got to figure it out.
But I got a call from Mike Dilling.
They want to offer you this opportunity.
I don't know if you want to take it.
You know, I don't, I don't know if that's something you want to do.
He thought about it and ended up making that decision to go over there and do that.
And now, you know, just a handful of races into the season.
It's, it's not working, but I hope that, you know, Jim's an awesome, awesome guy.
Very, very passionate.
It's a little early to make this change.
Still do you think in the season?
I don't know.
They know better than any of us.
I'll say that.
And they're in it every day.
Look, man, I could sit here and be critical.
We are, we are a podcast, right?
We're going to sit down and talk, but we ain't in the building.
We don't know what the conversations are like inside the building in the rooms with Kyle,
with Jim, with RCR, with Mike Dilling, with, with Richard Childress.
And they, they have a help.
They have a handle on it.
You know, they know way more than any of us.
And they got this, you know, they're sitting there thinking, man, we got this.
Oh, don't worry about it.
That's probably their take.
They're racers, right?
They think, you know, they're racers and racers are like, we're going to figure it out.
You know, Kyle's struggling and the organization's struggling.
And I just hate it for Jim, but honestly, I don't think that he made a mistake leaving
junior motorsports.
I really don't.
I think that he was at the end of his runway.
Obviously we're, we're in a good spot.
We got over street, we're running races.
Justin's not missing a beat.
Justin's running as good, if not better.
And so we're in a good spot here, but I felt like it was time for Jim personally.
Like he needed a new, he needed new horizons.
He needed a new, new place in a new space.
He, Jim doesn't have to do this at all.
He's, he's, he's in a good enough spot where he doesn't have to be in the industry at all.
So trust me, when I tell you that while Jim's probably disappointed this didn't work out,
Jim's going to be fine.
I feel like this move is out of like desperation and obviously you're not getting rid of the driver.
So what are you going to do?
You're just trying something, but I don't like, I don't know what this is going to do though.
Yeah, I've been, I was in this exact same situation.
Kyle used to publicly poke it, poke fun at me in the media about it.
It's always the crew chief's faults.
Neverdale juniors, but I mean, did he not?
Oh yeah, it was back and forth a lot.
So I mean, yeah, you're not, you're not firing Kyle Bush.
You're just not.
And everybody believes that Kyle can do the job.
Everybody believes that Kyle is one of the most talented guys behind the wheel.
All his fans absolutely believe that he, you know, should be running up front.
And so, yeah, I'm going to, if I'm RCR and I'm rich children,
I'm going to be trying to get Kyle running better and I'm going to do whatever I can
to make that happen, to keep Kyle from leaving, right?
Kyle is sitting there going, all right, man, I'm, I'm, what on, what is it, 41, 40?
Kyle's sitting there thinking like, you know, I too am at the end of my runway, 40 years old.
I'm at the, Kyle's sitting there thinking five more years maybe of, of, of, of kick-ass talent left.
I need to be winning now.
I don't need to be in a rebuild or in a program that's, that's not ready to win.
I need to be winning races, right?
So he's feeling, he's, he's not feeling pressure, but he's urgent to get back to, you know, running up front.
And so he ain't 30, he's 40, right?
Y'all understand what I'm saying, right?
And so there's an emergency for him to like, hey guys, let's get this figured out.
Or dude, I'm telling you, man, got, you know, his eyes are going to stray.
You know, his thoughts are going to stray.
He's going to be tempted to, he's going to get phone calls.
People are going to call him.
Hey man, you want to come drive this car?
Look at this car.
Does RCR want him back next year?
Why wouldn't they want him back?
Yeah.
Well, what they're, what they're paying for the results that they're getting.
Timing, is that on?
That ain't on Kyle.
I don't think it's all Kyle.
No, it's not on Kyle, but.
So what are you going to put in there?
That's going to magically fix it.
Look, I, the driver.
But.
All right.
This is a, I'll have this conversation.
So, I don't know what they're paying Kyle, but I, they could put Jesse Love in the car.
Hey, Jesse would probably take a much smaller paycheck, right?
His base, his base salary would not be what Kyle's is.
That would be, that would be something that the team would, would go.
Okay.
That's a, that's a positive.
That's a check into positive column, but Jesse Love will all do respect.
I think Jesse Love is a cup talent.
I think he's, he's, this guy is extremely talented.
Jesse Love will win cup races.
He will battle for cup championships.
He has that ability, but is he Kyle Bush today?
I don't think so.
I would say Kyle is just, you know, I trust Kyle's record and, and, and his ability.
Knowledge is, is, is, I just, I would say I would put Kyle in the car before I'd put Jesse in.
He put them both in the same car.
Kyle is going to be better.
I think so.
Yeah.
I don't, I think we all, he's going to know how to run a more complete race too.
Yeah.
So that's the thing.
Dude, you know, if you put Jesse in the car, know that you're going to be going through the
processes of Jesse learning and struggling and, and getting, you know, figuring all this out,
which he will.
Um, you save a little money on the salary, maybe, you know, some, you save some money there, but
don't you feel like you take a lot of that and invest it still though and like other
departments like engineering and cause you're going to have to get better.
Look, they got to get better.
The organization has to get better.
They know that they know that they're not fast cars or make a lot.
They are not running from that.
They're not hiding from that.
And, you know, Austin Dillon and Mike Dillon and, and, uh, all the folks over there at RCR,
they just, they know they just got to figure it out.
They got to buckle down and figure out how to get.
It's tough, dude.
They are, you know, that they're on an island up there and welcome.
I mean, that might as well be on new Pluto.
You know what I'm saying?
It's hard to get people to up, you know, a lot of the racing industry and it's not,
it's not cool.
I don't, I don't really know how they feel about how challenging this part is.
Is it the same as it was 20 years ago?
And I, again, I don't run there.
I don't, I don't know what it's like to run their business or be involved in their business.
So maybe this isn't a hurdle, but it feels like, you know, if you've got a very talented guy
that you want to hire, maybe he's an excellent crew chief, he would probably,
maybe he wants to come work at your organization, but does he want to drive that hour up the road?
Is he living in Concord, Harrisburg, where all the other teams are?
And he has to drive that hour up the welcome every day.
He's certainly probably not going to uproot his whole family or whatever is going on,
you know, move, you know, that's a challenge.
That's a hurdle.
That's a challenge for them.
They got great people too, but they need, they don't have quite as much
sway, you know, in trying to recruit in, I believe.
And that probably may still be a tough challenge for them, but man,
they're racers and they're hard, they're hard-nosed and I don't love seeing them struggle.
It's good for the sport when they're good.
Yeah. I don't love seeing them struggle, but, you know,
it is a tough situation that they're in.
I think that this is a, this is a good change.
I would have loved to have seen Jim get a little bit longer time to see how that might have
bared some fruit.
I don't know that this is going to change really how the car performs,
but dude, when you get, when you get kind of like when, when, when you get ready to make a
change and you get your mind made up, it's hard to turn it off.
It's hard to, it's hard to, it's hard to turn it off and somebody in this relationship is,
is, is over it.
You know what I mean?
You just got to imagine that there's somebody here that said, I can't do it anymore.
Maybe it was Kyle, maybe it's Jim.
I don't know.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. You don't make this change unless somebody raised their hand and said,
I can't, this isn't working for me.
So yeah, just interesting that Andy's going to go back on the car.
They kind of know what they got there, right?
Cause he was on the car at the end of last year.
They must, you know, Kyle must have liked some of that likes.
I don't know why they didn't put Andy on the car this year to start the year, but
so that's a little interesting, right?
Don't you think?
Yeah, I find ironic that they're bringing somebody back that's already been there.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
But I mean, who else do you go get right now?
It almost has to be internal, right?
Yeah, couple of decent man.
I mean, the finishes at the end of tail end of last year were kind of
on par with how he was running throughout the year, just looking at the stats.
Yeah.
But anyway, let's see what happens.
Yeah.
Well, tough deal, man.
I was a little bit surprised to see it, but I was, you know,
we all knew that there was some, some frustration there for sure.
In the O'Reilly race.
So I watched the O'Reilly race.
Man, I'm not looking forward to this conversation
because I don't think me and TJ are going to be on the same page here.
But none of your cars wrecked.
None of my cars wrecked.
That's good.
But they didn't finish any better.
Like usually when you don't wreck, you end up running up front.
We had some very fast cars.
Hendrick, Hendrick engines brought some speed.
Our crew chiefs had them things dialed in.
They were winning cars and we didn't get it done.
Well, one of our, you know, teammates in the 17 got the win.
Corey Day, congratulations.
Corey Day is, you know, hey, you know, he's been in a spotlight
a little bit this year for some of the things happening on the racetrack,
but he's figured it out.
This kid's starting to put together races.
And Corey Day is a championship contender.
I'm going to say it.
Corey Day is figuring it out and he is going to be a handful later in this season.
You know, for all these guys that are trying to go win a championship,
he's going to be in the conversation for sure.
So the guys are coming off pit road.
And NASCAR apparently said in the drivers meeting NASCAR has seen something.
This is what the broadcast was talking about.
NASCAR saw something over the last couple of races at Talladega in the cup series.
They did not love how guys were pulling up in front of the pack on the back straightaway.
And they said that they don't, they don't have drivers meetings in their rally series anymore.
It's really a one-seater.
Yeah, you get a, they, they send out a video.
Yeah, this video.
Same one they play, you know, in like the cup deal.
Well, I think it's time to bring back the drivers meetings.
I don't believe, I believe that the COVID era, you know, memo and email, we're over that.
Let's get these boys back in the room.
Let's, we don't have to get all of the CEOs and all the athletes and celebrities,
but we need, we're there at the racetrack.
All you got, them boys are all sitting around on, on race day with twilling thumbs.
Let's get them in a room.
Let's, let's watch the video.
Let's have a couple of conferences.
Ask some questions.
Let's do that.
Let's get into that.
I don't like the email memo video because our guys ain't watching it.
All right, that's on us.
But we, I mean, come on, we've been doing drivers meetings for years.
The way to do a drivers meeting is to actually get everybody in the room together and have a,
have a conversation.
It should happen.
That's one thing.
But our guys, they said in the email that they were going to be looking at this a little
closer because they haven't liked what's starting to develop and it's starting to become
a habit or it's become normalized to pull up in front of the pack.
As they're coming off a turn, you know, if you're coming off pit road, it's been normalized
to try to impede their progress and break them up.
So coming off a turn two, Carson Quapol pulls to the middle of the racetrack.
Okay.
As the fields coming up and basically what amounts to the third lane, he then moves into
the third lane as does Justin Allgaier.
And so NASCAR saw that and said, here's our opportunity to nail these guys and set an
example of what we don't want.
Now TJ is going to say, that's fine.
Just keep doing this going forward.
Like if you're going to do it to us, do it to the next guy.
That's, that's on NASCAR to, I think the 92 should have got it as well.
So let's watch it.
Where's the 92 at?
The blue car.
Let's watch it.
Let's watch it back.
I thought there was a third car in the group.
He's right behind Carson right there in the middle of the racetrack.
And he didn't do, he, the 92 is didn't do what Carson did.
Aren't you supposed to be on the line?
He's moving up to the middle of the racetrack.
I don't think they said that you got to be against the line all the way down the back
straightaway.
So Carson makes a third move into the third lane.
Justin makes a move into the third lane, then back down.
I mean, see to me, that's one defensive move from Carson.
That's only one.
Are you serious?
Well, yeah.
What do you want me to say?
How many moves is it?
His first defensive move was up to the middle of the racetrack.
Well, I mean, he's not looking at the two cars.
Look at the 92 rate then.
TJ.
Well, you want to call it the second one or first one.
I mean, to me, he can't even see the two car until he gets up to the third lane.
I'm, I'm telling you, if I'm NASCAR and I want you to stop this, I'm penalizing these guys
right here when I see it.
Well, that's fine.
They just got to penalize rest of them from here on out.
That's what I just said.
I figured you'd say that.
I agree with you on that.
NASCAR NASCAR has set a precedent.
That's what I do think.
Justin is the sketchy for me right here.
Yeah.
Justin's move was scary for me.
I'll listen.
I got to be honest, man.
I was at, uh,
I was in practice.
I can't remember if this was an Xfinity race or a, uh,
another rally race or a cup race, but this was probably 2003.
And, um,
we're out there practicing on the racetrack practicing and we've got about a 10 car pack
and Kenny Wallace pulls out on the racetrack.
And there's, there's, you know, a handful of cars down on the bottom going down the back
straightaway that are going to blend up into the pack, right?
And they're going quite a bit slower.
And so as we're going down the back straightaway,
I kind of start feeding the pack high because I figure these guys in the bottom are going to stay low.
And so we ease off into turn three and we're going up toward the wall.
Well, Kenny Wallace just drives up the racetrack to jump in front of us.
And I was like, damn, that, that's crazy.
Like, it is like what it's practice and
we're, we're trying to, we're trying to like jump in front of a pack that's going
maybe 15 mile an hour faster, uh, because you want to be the leader of that pack.
I mean, I don't know.
And we, no one ever, anytime that ever happened, right?
Everyone thought, man, you just don't do that.
That's against the code.
You know, you just don't do it.
You don't pull up in front of people in practice.
You don't get in front of guys that are making mock runs, you know?
And this, you know, I know this is a race and this competition and you're trying,
you know, there's, there's, there's a, there's an effort by them to try to impede the,
the pack so they don't lose all these positions.
But it's always kind of been a code, an unwritten code that you just don't
pull up in front of a pack of cars that are coming 10, 10, 20 mile an hour faster than you.
And it's become normalized.
It has become very normal.
It's become normalized and which it shouldn't be.
NASCAR is right to, to try to get a hold of it before it becomes a problem and
somebody gets turned over.
So let me ask a question right there on that.
Why didn't we saw it a few, probably two years ago, three years ago,
maybe three, something like that, whenever they first started doing this,
guys would come off pit road and just split and make everyone go around them.
Why not see it right then?
Why don't we run eight more, 10 more now?
Look, you wouldn't give a f*** if it was Jesse Love getting popped.
I mean, I know.
You're mad cause it was you.
I didn't like it when they first did it and my car wasn't even involved in a cup race
before.
I didn't like it then.
NASCAR is slow to move on it.
So they're finally getting a hold of it.
They're trying to get these guys to quit doing it.
You can't say, well, they didn't do it two years ago.
So why they do it now?
So they finally decided to please.
The reason why these guys are doing it is because they see the guys on Sunday doing it.
Yes.
But they said in the email, they were going to start watching it.
If, if somebody tells you, Hey man, the sidewalk is going to be wet.
We're going to re pour the sidewalk tomorrow.
Don't walk down that f***ing road.
You don't walk down the f***ing road.
The sidewalk is wet.
I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you there.
What is.
So let me ask you this.
If you're.
You got told to be mindful.
Yeah.
And y'all let it f***ing happen.
I didn't let it happen.
Well, did you read the f***ing book email?
Did you hear my radio?
Did you read the email?
Did you see my radio?
No, what did you say?
Stay on the line, stay on the line, stay on the line.
All right.
Well, what's your problem?
My problem is not just this.
They didn't listen.
They got popped.
Yeah, that's fine.
But there's other moments in the race,
like when you catch other packs, like slow packs,
and they split in front of the leaders too.
Is that.
They're not coming off pit road.
But you catch them so fast.
TJ.
It's not the same.
It's the same.
Okay.
That's, I'm just asking you.
That's cars, you know, just trying to.
Yeah.
I mean, I asked from the very first time they did in the cup series,
I thought it was bad idea.
They're just trying to get ahold of it.
We got made of examples of, and sometimes that's going to be us.
Sometimes it's going to be somebody else.
No, I agree.
I don't love it.
I hate it for them guys.
They, they cost us, you know, cost them good results.
For sure.
They had good enough cars.
They should have, you know, they could have just let this pack go by
and they would have got the draft and figured it out
and got back up through there.
And they didn't give them.
So I'm mad.
They didn't give themselves the chance.
But I would appreciate if we would go back to having normal
convert, normal drivers meetings.
I think that would help.
Cause I'm, I need a, I needed my Kelton to be in the room going guys,
today we're going to be focusing more on X, Y and Z.
Okay.
So make sure you put your, you're doing a better job there.
You know what I mean?
I do think it is better in person when you're going to stress something
like that because whether you send the email,
did you not read email about it?
Like that email tells me no tone.
No tone.
No.
It tells you no.
And my guy, I'm telling you, my guys aren't, they're not going to ping on
a line.
Yeah.
No, they're not.
Especially when you see guys do it on Sundays every week.
Agreed.
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Well, we got our winner for the Cup race, Carson Hosevar, in the studio.
We're arguing about the penalty on the O'Reilly race on the back straightaway with Carson and
Justin.
I mean, I don't look at emails or whatever.
And I was saying to TJ, dude, in like 2005, nobody did that.
That was really against the code, right?
To blatantly like go into the third lane and pull up in front of, you know, take a car
pack.
That was against code.
Now it's kind of become like normalized.
Is it truly, when you see a guy do it, do you go, oh darn, okay, you know,
just going to figure out a way to get around him?
Or do you go, what an idiot?
No, I mean, every time I, I mean, I'm normally the one doing it, honestly.
I mean, hell, I did it on the Chevy.
So, but I was already on the racetrack when I did it.
But I've already, but they were already doing it before I got in there really,
especially like the Penske cars.
Like they, they like had a plan of like, or one car goes here, one car goes here,
one car goes here to really like block them.
And like we haven't like, you know, like wrecked anything.
I know I was appreciative that y'all got popped at least.
So that was how I found out that was even a rule.
Cause I saw Carson at like the concert at the Boulevard.
And he's like, Hey man, don't do what I did.
And I was like, what the hell'd you do?
Like I, I didn't even realize what the pony's for.
I thought like maybe he just got up too quickly off turn two.
I didn't realize it was like halfway down the back, just turning up.
Like cause I just thought that was,
it wasn't like blaming the 500.
If you saw that clip, he blended literally in the middle of one and two,
they told, I've never seen it before, but that was, I mean, it got away with it.
But I felt like, I feel like one in like
Talladega, like you go on the apron through one and two,
and you get halfway down the back, you can kind of just do what you want.
Where Daytona, like it's like the, well, you kind of got to stay on the yellow.
It's different. It sounds weird, but it is different.
It's different. It is.
Like you're not really on the apron.
You're still merging onto the track.
You just can't go too far and everything.
Like it's somewhere like Pocono.
Like Pocono, we're getting away with murder.
A lot of them are just like going straight to the wall off turn two,
Yeah. Cause I mean, man back, I hate to sound like an old man back in my day, but
we all adhered pretty good to the, you know, the no blend rule.
And we all stayed pretty tight.
If we were told to use the apron, obviously it made it very simple to,
to use the apron and then come up off the, you know, off a turn two and just, you know,
you're looking up, all right, nobody's coming.
I can, I feel like I can get up against the wall here,
but if somebody was coming, you didn't drive up in front of them.
You never would.
I think the thing is too, the car, like there's,
if, if they slammed you at 20 mile an hour faster, just get, shoot you forward.
If they slammed you back in the day, 20 mile an hour faster, you're completely destroyed.
Yeah. Well, hey, it is what it is.
Congratulations again to Corey day.
Great, great race by Corey.
He did an awesome job.
And yeah, so let's move on to the cup race.
Big, big crash going into turn three.
I got to see, I got, I was flying to Nashville and doing some work with Texas Roadhouse.
So I didn't get a chance to, to see all of it, but I did see this big crash
y'all had in the turn three.
Where were you?
So I was the last car on the top last car.
I was the last car, like on the top lane.
And so literally I was the, like going off turn two, I kept doing the,
trying to get the fastest lap.
So I'd like lay way back and I would just drive through the field.
Like, you know, they're like four wide, half throttle.
And it is kind of fun to do when you do that.
I would just start cutting through five wide and stuff, trying to get the fastest lap.
So I blew my tire just literally just on the break.
And so like right there, I'm like flat and everything.
But you can see it bouncing.
Yeah. But yeah, I just happened to think off too.
I was like, man, because I just kept doing this with the pack and yo-yo.
And I was like, I f***ed if they wreck because I am yo-yoing through everybody.
And I was having to think that off too.
And I was like, I probably should back off a little bit.
And then all of a sudden I saw like one car do something not normal.
And then Tyler said they're wrecking and you see smoke.
So luckily I saw that, I had that intuition a little bit of like being aware that I'm
putting myself in a bad spot.
What I was doing, but we didn't really get any damage.
We just not the, there was something with the left front we had to fix because there's
so much rubber that hit it.
But, but no, I was completely fine.
I'd brace for impact because I couldn't see anything.
Dude, I'm going to go and tell you, if there was a car sitting in front of you at Arte,
you're, you're.
Dude, that's over.
Yeah.
I was more worried about a car.
I was just, I was, I was so braced for impact of them spinning back up.
Yeah. Hitting the door or something.
Yeah. Like I just, we're just flying in from behind that they didn't see.
But I was like, if I, and I was, I just kept turning my wheel, right?
Cause I was like, if they, like, you know, if they have four flats, they're just going
to slide down.
So I was like, yeah, just, just clean.
Just go, just go to the bottom.
Please move.
I mean, it worked out.
Yeah. I got super lucky there.
Yeah.
So when you watch all the videos, um, you know, that's one of, um, that's one of my
favorite things is to every now and then go back and watch an old race, you know, and
relive the emotions, right?
And so, um, what, uh, what does that feel like?
I guess when you, cause you know, it does take a while for it to sink in.
Yeah. I was, I was driving here and it doesn't feel like I've, I've won.
Like I keep forgetting I've already, I've won one, but I mean, every time, I mean,
literally every time I watch the video, I, I just like ball up.
Like I literally cry my ass off.
Like I just so lame.
Like, I mean, literally like almost two days apart, but like,
but that's what, like I, I felt like I, I was so focused on soaking it all in.
Um, and like I wanted to visualize it and like nothing's a blur.
I could tell you exactly where, you know, what row I saw somebody.
I could tell you everything.
I could tell you exactly what I was pointing to.
I remember it all.
And so when I watched, when I rewatched the videos, I, I still remember it.
So like I get, I'm like, I'm mainly crying just cause I, I literally get back into the
same emotion I can get.
I was and like, I can hear the crowd.
I can hear everything.
I can visualize everything again.
Um, and so like that's my favorite part is like, I can, I can get back to that spot
cause that was the number one thing I was scared of if I ever won was either wouldn't
feel like I dreamt about and like it wouldn't feel like that big of a deal.
And would just, it'd be like, Dan, this is everything I've ever, ever dreamt of work
for.
And it just, you know, it just, it wasn't what you'd expect.
You know, the expectations were so high and everything, but no, it matched up perfectly.
Really appreciate Carson stopping by in the studio for this, ended up going a little bit
longer than we thought.
We're going to decide actually, I'm making the executive decision right now.
We're going to actually give you the full, um, interview during the guest show tomorrow.
So if you want to hear the rest of this conversation and it's a great one,
check out tomorrow's episode with Carson Hosevar.
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Let's get right to the questions.
TJ's here with me.
Go ahead, Travis.
First question is, uh, we had some awards given out yesterday.
How people want to know how you're doing about the rookie of the year.
Not going to con.
Not going to con.
Con Knupel in the NBA had a great rookie season, but lost to Cooper Flag.
He got robbed.
It was like 54 to 48 or something.
The voting really kind of relatively close.
But, um, of course, as a Hornets fan, uh, I was disappointed in those results.
Uh, it was 56 to 44 for first place total was 412 to 386.
I don't know, man.
I mean, look, Cooper flag is a badass dude and he is, uh, he, as a lot of people will
point out, he's the number one option on that team.
Con is the second or third option on his team.
And, and, and con struggled down the stretch, man.
I think he had a back injury that was hot.
He could not hit a three pointer at the end of the year.
The, like the last nine, 10 games were just, uh, just tough outings.
And, and I think that affected or that list that opened the door for the folks that were
big on Cooper flag, uh, I can't help but feel like, uh, you know, it's,
this is like, this reminds me, um, used to watch boxing.
I used to watch boxing matches a lot.
I still love boxing, but I don't watch as many.
Um, you would see big matches get put together and you knew that the, the, the, the, you knew
that the, um, scoring of the rounds was always going to be a little weighted toward the champion
or the person that was, you know, not, not the challenger, right?
And a lot of times if you were a fan of the challenger, you felt like, man,
this guy's going to have to knock him out to have it.
He's not going to win the decision.
If he allows it to be even close, they're going to give the decision to the other guy
every time.
And this is what that feels like this, you know, this feels like that if con didn't go in there
and continue to knock it out every night and just have badass games all the way to the finish line,
he was going to open up the door of opportunity for them to give it to flag.
And that's what happened.
Um, I don't agree with it.
I wouldn't have voted flag.
I would have voted for con.
Listen, I am a f***ing casual fan.
I am not a hardcore Hornets fan.
So don't come at me with all these stats and you don't know, I don't, I don't know.
And so, but I'm just telling you, I've been, I was, I was fired up to be a Hornets fan this year.
We've had a rough, you know, go of it, uh, as a, as a, as a franchise.
We had an awesome year.
Our playing game sucked.
It sucked to get blown out by Orlando like we did.
And I, you know, I was watching and I saw con kind of faltering down the stretch to the finish line
with whatever was ailing him.
And I was worried.
I was like, this is going to present an opportunity for the folks that want to give it to flag to do that.
Yeah.
And let me tell you, there is a lot, there, there is a lot, there is a lot riding on flag
winning that award that starts at the beginning of the year.
Right.
I mean, he's the face of a lot of things.
They're banking on it.
Yes.
Like he's on all the, he's on all the boxes of, of, of tops cards and cases and boxes and this and that and other.
And he's like the industry makes more money off of a flag rookie of the year than con.
They do.
If they give it to con and con remains this second, third option on this team,
he plays well and he's a great player and aids his team in having success, but he's not a super star.
Yeah.
The guy they, you know, it's, it's not as great.
He's not the face of a franchise.
He's not the face of the franchise.
Yeah.
So I mean, the industry had most, you know, I'm, I'm imagining there was a little leverage and a little pressure on some people to, to say, hey, it's better
for us long term as a, as a, as a industry flag is the winner here because he is the face of this franchise and
it's just like this.
We're, Charlotte's a small market.
We feel like we get pushed around.
We feel like we're not allowed to have anything.
This, this aids into that.
You know, this, this aids in this idea that man, they ain't never going to let us have nothing.
All of the guys learning and girls like myself that had con cards, we're freaking disappointed because we feel like
They went the value too.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
My $700 con card now,
$7, you know, six months from now is going to be worth half that money.
Do you really have one?
Probably $700.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
I thought you had a limit.
He knows people.
I don't have to.
I'm not buying every card.
Sometimes you can pull a card.
Yeah.
So I'm, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm not, I'm not a, hey, here's what I pulled today kind of guy.
I'm not going to post every single card that I pulled because.
Gotcha.
That was a good one if you pulled that.
Yeah.
Now I couldn't help it.
I pulled that Ricky, sorry, that Griffey downtown.
I was like, I gotta share this.
This is amazing.
I just, I'm disappointed man.
Conn deserved it.
I want to get Conn on the podcast.
If he's here in this please come see us.
We're just down the street.
I'd love to learn about you and your game and let's talk Hornets and let's talk about, you know, I want to learn about this dude.
And it'd be, it'd be badass to have him or any of the players come in here and sit down and talk basketball.
Cause again, I'm a casual fan.
Don't know that I want to learn more.
And the Hornets look like they're poised to, they got an amazing coach.
I love this coach we got.
And they're, they're in a position with their draft capital and so forth to, to really have a good stretch here over the next couple of years if they do things the right way.
Make the right decisions.
Speak Travis, can I, speaking of athletes really quick and first timers at Talladega were,
I met like five or six Green Bay Packers that were there through the Super Bowl areas of like,
you know, Aaron Rodgers and stuff, first race for a lot of them there.
Had a great time.
It was like Josh Sittin, John Coon, the fullback.
You might remember some of these guys, very cool, very cool dudes man.
Yeah.
I was really, uh, had a great time meeting them and, and a priest actually gave them pace car rides and they were freaking out.
Like awesome.
Yeah.
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Next question.
What'd you think of the news of Jim France stepping down?
I mean, excuse me.
Um, I nothing, it changes nothing.
I, Steve O'Donnell, uh, great guy.
Um, I, I don't think that.
It really changes how business is going to get done or not going.
You're not going to see this seismic sort of shift in, in operations.
It'll be, um, you know, more of the same.
Um, Steve was already in a pretty high position.
I think it's just schematics at this point.
Jim's, Jim's getting up there.
Um, and they need to, I think this is them knowing the inevitable, uh, and getting, go ahead and making that move.
I like, I think what's more interesting out is the move for Ben Kennedy.
That's what I was going to ask you about.
So Ben Kennedy's, Ben Kennedy, there, he is the guy, they're positioning him to be the guy.
He's going to be the guy and whatever this sport is in 25 years will be through the vision and eyes of Ben Kennedy.
And so, um, and he will, if he's given that opportunity, he will run this, run this business.
Um, with all the best intentions.
He's a great guy.
Uh, that's really the bigger move is, or the more interesting thing for me is to see Ben, Ben sort of coming up the ladder and getting closer to the top rung.
Um, and, uh, that's what I saw when I saw it too.
Cause Ben's been kind of the schedule guy and now I think they moved Julie Gisey into that role.
Yep.
And she's amazing.
I'm, I've worked with her, uh, when we were doing the broadcast, uh, for the first,
uh, Charlotte, uh, Chicago street course race, we got to spend a ton of time with her.
Um, she don't mess around.
She is, um, she's the real deal.
Uh, I have a ton of respect and admiration for her and the role she'll play, uh, going forward.
But the, um, I don't know, you know, I'm not, I don't want to, I'm, I'm,
this sport is moving forward.
It's get on the train or get off.
It's always evolving.
It is, it is.
And, and there's some things that, you know, it's tough to break tradition or it's tough
to see things change or evolve.
And I picked my battles on kind of what, what the fight against, um, or when you're swimming
against the current, but it's going in the direction it's going.
And I approve 1000% with the leadership they have in place.
Yeah.
I do, I like every one of those individuals.
I am not afraid to f***ing admit it.
They're good people and they want what's good for the sport and they're people that I can
call and they'll answer the phone and I can tell them what I think.
And, uh, we can have a conversation.
Yeah.
Even like OD coming on DBC.
I mean, that was awesome.
Yeah.
I mean, me and Kelly got to meet with OD in a couple of weeks, uh, to talk O'Reilly.
So, you know, that they're, they're folks that I've known for a long, long time.
And I call Ben, uh, the other day, you know, he, he had that deal where he, he took his
team to the race and they were race fans, you know, for the week, it was kind of like
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I'm like, Hey, tell me about that.
I want to go on my podcast, talk about it, but I need to know what the heck actually happened.
And so, I mean, they're, they're, they're easy to, you know, easy to reach.
And yeah, this is a good deal.
Yeah.
One more question is, uh, how happy were you with your team's NFL draft picks?
I was pretty happy.
What about you, TJ?
The Washington had a great opportunity at seven, uh, to take styles.
I thought that was a great, uh, we awesome to be able to land a guy like that.
We really need some linebacker help.
Um, they had a couple of other curious picks, but, uh, when, when I looked at where those
players were graded, we got really good value for the pick, um, uh, a little running back
for out of Penn state that I'm, I'm excited to see.
They call him fat man.
This is nickname, which is interesting, but, um, instead of Batman, it's fat man.
But, uh, and we drafted a quarterback, I think with our last pick, which is also
interesting. I think Sam Hartman might be out and they're trying to figure out if
this kid can come in and play, but yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
They bill straight up back a lot.
And we got a center.
I think he's from Michigan state.
We needed a center.
Yeah.
I think the bills, I like the draft picks.
Uh, Brandon beans been pretty good about finding, finding talent later in rounds and
stuff that stick around and be starters.
So you know, time will tell.
Yeah.
I'm really excited about the, you know, you always got that first round pick.
You excited about the guy they land there?
They traded all the trade it out of the first round, first round.
Yep.
What, they must have been pretty late in the round.
Yeah.
They were late in the round.
They went for a linebacker first and then, um, they filled a lot of spots.
So I'm pretty happy with what they did.
Our play, our, the commander's team has really changed.
They went hard on the defense to get a bunch of people in there.
And it's every across, across the board.
I'm pretty happy.
We are thin at wide receiver and we're thin at the cornerback.
And you know, there's, there, the wide receiver stuff is not as critical.
I think cornerback stuff.
Yeah.
You have a number one.
Yeah.
So that's go is good.
Yeah.
McLauren, I think he has got a respect.
Yeah.
And we got a great couple of corners.
I just, you know, that if you could add one offensive piece, would you, who would it be?
Like a, uh, who's tight and hurts or who was it?
We got the guy from the Titans.
We signed him in free agency.
So he's supposed to be pretty solid, but we'll see.
Awesome.
What's it for today?
All right.
Well, I hope everybody had a great, um, had a great week and we had a lot to talk about in
this show.
You're going to want to tune in.
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Dirty Modo brought to you by FanDuel, uh, coming out of Talladega.
Um, do we got to talk about anything?
Did anybody make any good bets?
Anybody win any money?
I just, Talladega was a show for everybody on the betting app.
FanDuel.
Yeah, there was no need for, yeah.
No need to re-talk about the losses.
No need to talk about it.
Well, we're going into Texas this weekend.
Our favorites are Denny Hamlin, Reddick, Larson, Blaney, Bell, Byron, the same shit every week.
Yep.
Jesus.
I mean, we might as well just don't even have to print a new sheet for the next race.
The favorites are Denny Hamlin, Reddick, Larson, Blaney.
Should Denny be a favorite considering, uh, his last couple of races at Texas?
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but yes, he still should be a favorite.
There you go.
All right.
This segment was brought to you by, I'm just kidding.
I'm just messing with you.
Hey, um, you know, it's a track where you can see, uh, you know, it's a track where you
could see something, you know, something unique happen.
And I, I think Texas is, is, uh, is a lot of fun.
But, and I don't know how I feel about Reddick though.
Look, I know this dude has, he's had an incredible start to the season, but this is a mile and a
half. Do we look back at Vegas?
You know, do we look back at performance at, at, at a track similar to, to Texas?
And does that carry over?
Who, who almost won Texas last year?
Well, all right.
I hear you.
That was last year.
King.
Last year was a completely different year for him.
He, he almost won a lot of races, but didn't win any.
Who are we talking about?
Reddick.
Thanks for listening, TJ.
Thanks for waking up.
That's just making sure he wasn't talking about Denny.
Oh, I just, how do we feel about Reddick?
We, you know, it's, this is a, this is a kind of groove that we're in as, as content creators,
race fans, whatever you call it.
It's literally, no matter what the race track, it's, what have you done for me lately?
Like in it, it's, has no bearing on Texas at all, but I can't get out of this habit,
which is a habit that I don't love.
I have of looking at last week's results to determine my feelings about the upcoming race.
Yeah, I agree.
But what is, why are we doing that?
We used to never do that, but I see that off.
I, I see myself and other people doing that more often in the state of the sport.
It's momentum.
You know, just, so Reddick just magically pops back to the top of the board going into,
you know, going into Texas.
What do you think?
He won the last mile and a half race.
Yep.
So, so what?
All right.
But I mean, you're making me, you're making me a belief that I needed to hear.
But he probably wasn't going to win that race though.
But we have a rebuttal.
But I mean, he wasn't going like minus, uh, unforeseen caution second then.
Okay.
But that's not when they still going to be a contender.
All right.
Who out of that group is, are you most worried about?
I would say Travis is onto something with Denny with his, with his finishes there lately,
but you know, like engine failure was one last year.
So that's where I, I say that.
I think it's hard when you look at the mile and a half races this year, we've had
nine guys finish top 10 in both of them.
So like it's the same guys running up front there.
Who are those nine?
So it's, it's Denny, Chase Elliott, William Byron, Ty Gibbs, Chris Busher, Kyle Larson,
Chase Briscoe, Bubba Wallace, Brad Kozlowski.
All right.
Do you not think that Byron's, the one, Byron's kind of one that I'm not confident in.
They've had a tough, they've found the tough, they found some, you know, they've had a rough go.
It goes like that.
It goes like that.
It does.
Do they bounce back or they got, do they start performing like they want to?
I think, I think this is a good track for him for sure.
It is.
They certainly, I'm, I'm, I was thinking Byron was a championship contender this year.
This might be a year where he could actually really make a go of it.
But man, they've kind of, they keep stubbing their toe little, little things, right?
But he had to be interesting.
What about Spire?
We, you know, hosts of our coming off of a win.
They've ran well at the mile and a half.
He's decent at Texas too.
Goes into those tracks with confidence now with a win under his belt.
The pressure's off, you know, to like be desperate, right?
Yeah.
I definitely like him here for at least a top 10 bet, if you will.
Yeah.
He's won here in the truck series.
So he likes the track.
Like he's got as a top 10 here already in this race last year.
Yeah.
Um, I believe he wasn't, didn't you win the poll here last year in the cup race in the fall?
He did.
Or, and there was only one race here last year, is this one?
Plus money for top 10 for us far.
Yeah.
Is there a, is, is that, is this what I'm seeing?
There is a, um, there's a one-on-one Suarez versus Chastain.
Yep.
And so I love this bet because this is personal.
So they don't like each other.
They're ex teammates.
Suarez went to Spire and Trackhouse has struggled.
And I, I think this is a juicy little fun bet to, to have, I hope continues throughout the year.
They've both kind of met in the middle.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like Suarez, yeah.
Suarez over, Suarez is plus money against Chastain.
I would take it.
He's been, he's been top 10 in the last three at Texas, top 12 in the last five.
He's been quietly, he's been quietly having a pretty good year.
Yeah, that's a bet to make.
I'm on it, man.
Do you think, uh, the difference between like a Kansas and a Texas is,
Kansas to me is a much narrower window and it's easier to make mistakes there and get in trouble.
Do you think the same?
Yeah, this is the track we've had the most cautions, um, in, in this car on average.
So, you know, we have, we've been way down on cautions this year, but this is,
this is a track where I think we can, we can get several cautions.
Why so?
You have to tell me that.
Is it that bump?
No, it's not.
It's the bump off.
I mean, it is the bump.
It's the way the groove is.
I mean, it's real easy to, and the way this track is, they, it's hard to see the cushion
sometimes in one and two.
And if you jump the cushion and guys get free up there and,
and, uh, to me and, and guys can put each other up there and get each other in trouble more,
and they will do that.
So there's another head to head, uh, where there's a massive underdog.
Brad is plus 150 versus briscoe.
I mean, I gotta say that's, that's, uh, I would, I would gamble the money on Brad to,
since it's plus money.
150 is a big number.
What do you think about that?
I'm, I'm with you.
I like as lousy over briscoe here.
What are the numbers say though?
Where the 19 finished Talladega?
No, I'm just wondering cause it's like this is all going to matter where his qualifying
position is too.
He was 29th.
Okay.
So he's going to go out pretty early in qualifying.
So it's going to be tough.
Yeah.
What about Logano versus Elliot?
It's minus one 15 both ways.
Ah man, I like Elliot.
He's chase just finds his way here.
Some.
Yeah.
I like Elliot over.
Logano.
And Logano is just struggling.
They are.
Pinsky.
Their last win was here last year.
Pinsky as a whole has struggled to outperform RFK over the past several weeks.
Yeah.
What's going on there?
I mean, even last week, who was their top guy?
The two.
Yeah.
With Cintrick, right?
Are they in a bit of a rut?
Pinsky.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, but yeah, for sure.
I don't, I don't know why, but it's, it's,
you know, the only thing is, is Cindrick's really come on lately.
Like now he's actually in playoff or chase position now.
So like he's been, I would say, running the best of the, the Pinsky group lately.
No, I mean, it's hard.
Blaney's had more speed, but Cindrick.
You got a lot of strange looks in this room.
Yeah.
Follow that comment.
That's not going to be true, Russ.
Come on now.
No disrespect.
No disrespect.
Mr. Cinder.
He's not been the, he's, but he has the best average finish probably.
Blaney's been the better performer.
Yeah.
Blaney's been the fastest Pinsky card I'm at.
Come on now.
The predictor is going to slap you in the face.
I would take Cindrick over.
You're telling me right now.
I would take Cindrick over Blaney over Ligano and Barry.
Yes, but Blaney kind of put Barry in there.
Would just like, like look at, look at Cindrick the last five races.
He was fifth, eighth, 16th at Bristol, 12th at Kansas, eighth at Talladega.
Man.
Those are moderate results, but I still feel like that Blaney's a better five.
Blaney's just better speed.
Yeah.
That's a wild take, Russ.
Yeah, dude.
I didn't say, hey, this is coming from a guy who knows wild takes.
That's a wild take master over here.
We should take that out of Travis thinks it's a wild.
No, it's staying in.
Oh, this is not leaving now, man.
Boy.
I spent a lot of time with Cindrick in the, in the Fox booth the last couple of weeks.
So you got a soft spot.
It ain't nothing.
I mean, also is a great guy and he's, it's having a good year.
That relationship is affecting your decision making.
It may be affecting my decisions.
Yes.
I like, well, the predictor doesn't have feelings.
Yeah.
The predictor disagrees with my feelings.
Yeah.
You're making a emotional decision.
Yes, you are.
A Blaney has struggled on these mile and a half.
So he talked about that.
Yeah.
He's also won the all star race there too.
He did win the all star race there one year, many, many moons ago.
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About this episode
Kyle Busch’s crew chief change at RCR sparks a long discussion about whether swapping Andy Street in can actually fix a struggling season, with Dale Jr. arguing the problem is bigger than one person. The crew also digs into NASCAR’s Talladega penalty for cars pulling up in front of the pack, debating whether the rule was enforced fairly and whether drivers’ meetings should return. Carson Hocevar joins to break down his race, the big crash, and how he managed to avoid major damage.
