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What's going on, Car Guys and Car Gals?
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And look at who it is that we wrote in.
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The one, the only Tim Cox.
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Let's go, brother, welcome to the party.
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Good to see you, brother.
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It's good to see you too, brother.
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Every time we see you, it's always
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the smile that always makes me get smile.
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It's like the best smile in the business
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from across the room, right?
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And besides the smile, it's what you try to bring
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when you come somewhere.
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You try to bring good things.
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You try to bring love.
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And ultimately, with the capital oil too, right?
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And I always love that about you.
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When you walk in a room, it's always God first.
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I could feel that for you, right?
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And you always bring that up.
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And to me, it's always been a blessing to run into you
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and talk about what's good in life,
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what the light of life is, right?
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And the light is amazing.
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Right now, we're at Namat.
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And Namat is the light right now.
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I can tell you, I'm excited to be here.
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This is our very first Namat.
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My very first Namat too.
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This is really, absolutely, it is,
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I heard from multiple people.
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My buddy, Danny at BenQ and multiple others
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that they said, you have to go.
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And they said, there's just a spirit.
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There's just a feeling.
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Matt Jones was on earlier.
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I listened to that from Truecar,
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who now has become one of my favorite people.
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But in all seriousness, he used the word fraternity.
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And it doesn't matter what you look like,
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smell like, who you work for.
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Every, there's just a feeling here that's just good.
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It's a good feeling.
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And I felt like that the moment we walked in,
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the very first person that walked by this booth,
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as we're setting up, came here and greeted us
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with so much passion.
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And they're just willing to help
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and be part of what we're about.
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And I felt like that the moment we're here.
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And it is a fraternity.
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And I'm so thankful that I'm here.
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I'm glad this is our first one,
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but I can't wait for many others in the future.
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So we're excited that you're out here for one.
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Your booth is right next to us.
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You do know a lot of people choose their booth
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based off of where we are.
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But it is something that is encouraging
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to be able to see you here,
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because you can be anywhere.
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You are doing so much for the industry right now.
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We honor what it is that you're doing
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to help advance dealers all over the place
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and make the experience better for everybody involved.
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But when actually coming out here
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and starting to connect,
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we're really on day two of this event.
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And we still got plenty more to go.
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What is it that you're hoping
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that you get to see your brand do
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inside of this particular environment?
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Just look, at the end of the day,
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it's about results.
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It's about, we talk about all the time.
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There's a lot of great companies out here.
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We tell people all the time.
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And quite frankly, it's just like a job interview, right?
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Everybody's Miss America, right?
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You look at the resume, everybody's gonna change the world.
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Every vendor, you haven't seen my dashboard,
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oh, but at the end of the day,
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I said almost a decade ago, facts not field.
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And what I wanna really focus on
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is we handle almost a million conversations.
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Y'all, every, I said, y'all,
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I'm country's corporate.
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That's right, that's right.
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Y'all, every month.
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Scoping blue, baby.
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Nearly every month.
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By the way, three boys here, right?
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Get into the house.
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That's right, that's right.
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But anyway, in all seriousness,
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we handle a million conversations a month
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and we study that data.
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There's some things that are facts.
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There's some things that are feeling.
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But when we can go on a website
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and we know that we're gonna convert,
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if somebody clicks a button,
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we know we're gonna convert
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between 75 and 85% to get a lead.
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And we've got some dealers that are literally,
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that lead to close is the most important thing for me.
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Because at the end of the day,
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one of the reasons we started Carnell
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in my dealership when we were playing with the software
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was I would have vendors, not being ugly,
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but certain vendors would come into my store
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and say, oh, Jim, you crushed it last month.
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How did I crush it?
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We had this many unique visitors
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and that's fine as part of the puzzle.
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How many cars did I sell?
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I can't take that stoker.
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Look at how many clicks I had.
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That'd be $183, Mr. Cops.
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That's what, I had 20,000 unique visitors
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Then, sir, I need the money to pay it.
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And most people, I would assume
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that your pay plan is predicated
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on how many more cars you sell.
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So when I go into a dealer humbly,
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I think it's very important,
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I'm never the smartest person in the room.
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I think that's a huge, when we humble ourselves
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and we understand that every day I wanna give more,
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I wanna learn more,
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I wanna be better than I was the day before.
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And if we take that leadership mentality
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into our companies, into our businesses,
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and pour into our people to make our people better,
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then everything else takes care of itself.
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So when we go into a store, I literally say,
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and it's not coming from a place of conceit.
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It's coming from a place of confidence.
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I say, don't, I have reports.
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Don't look at my report.
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Look at your own elite,
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your own source report and your CRM.
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And if we don't raise that bar
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and sell more cars, then don't pay me a dime.
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And it's not, but because if you do A, B, and C,
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because we're looking at these certain data points,
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you're gonna sell more cars.
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Because unfortunately, once we get people,
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my great friend Kevin Doyshet at Butler Lexis said this,
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and I quote this 12 times a day at least.
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Most people in any industry, especially automotive,
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they go to work to wait.
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They don't go to work.
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And when you go into a dealership
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and you start working on individuals in a dealership,
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believing in something big, loving on them,
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caring about them, pouring into them,
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People talk about culture all the time.
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We talked about this.
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But when you pull the people aside,
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and wait for the group meetings, they're like,
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you know what I mean?
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So I think that's really the big part of this.
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And that's what I'm excited about to feel,
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even though we're early on in this conference,
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of people truly not being the smartest people in the room,
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coming by, wanting to learn and wanting to get better.
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And that's what we're excited about.
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Yeah, I need you to hold my mic so you can drop it.
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You said so many amazing things in those comments there.
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And so many things that really hit me at the heart.
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You talked about leadership.
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You talked about the way people feel inside stores
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truly after those meetings.
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Because it's the truth.
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We talked about salespeople.
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And I know it's heart wrenching for you salespeople,
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but let's be honest with each other.
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The biggest room in the world is room for improvement.
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And if you understand that, know that every day,
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there's time that's slipping away from you.
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You are allowing it to happen.
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And you know it at the end of the month,
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when you're sitting there deep in your heart at night,
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in your bed, and you're like, hey,
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what did I do this month?
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You didn't do enough.
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And that's the thing is, how do you
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get better at doing that weight game instead
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of waiting, doing, taking action, having a plan,
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make it happen, map it, right, Lou?
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And if we can make it happen,
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brother and sisters, you're gonna sell more cars,
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but more importantly, you're gonna help more people.
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You're gonna change your life.
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You're gonna be able to change your community's life
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So it's a massive thing.
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But no, I mean, there's so much to unload
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with what you just said there, brother.
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But one thing that Tim does not lack is passion, right?
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I think we all saw that just now.
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He's definitely passionate,
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definitely filled with so much wisdom.
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With that wisdom, how do you see the wisdom
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being cascaded down from leadership
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into their stores now?
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Because like you said, this is a critical pivot point
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for the industry when it comes to pouring into your people
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to create the culture that you want.
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And that shift is happening more and more
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with more people just really getting
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to that humble spot of saying,
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you know what, there's a lot I don't know.
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We know that there's pride for holding your dealership
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for 20, 30, 40 years, but thinking
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that everything will come from you.
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But many now are looking outward
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to get some information, to get some education,
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to help bring up their people.
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How do you see that shifting inside of the industry?
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Listen, there's so many examples
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where I have had the pleasure
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in the honor of witnessing it firsthand.
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There's also been so many examples
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where I've seen the antithesis and people are prideful
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and people get to a management position
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and they don't change.
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And because that's the way they were brought up
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when they were salespeople and the managers paraded them,
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I think there comes a point in company,
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but especially in dealerships,
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if you truly have culture,
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your people a lot of times are more upset
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because if they don't hit their numbers
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because they let you down,
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and they have that conversation,
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boss I hit my number, it's never gonna happen.
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I didn't hit my number, it's never gonna happen again.
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But let me tell you a story.
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When I was 17 years old, way back in 1989,
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Jake Sweeney Hyundai, a sales manager named David,
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and we have the great Jake Sweeney Automotive Group
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which I'm humbled, which is cool
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because that was 36 or 37 years ago.
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And I started crushing it per se, selling a lot of cars
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and I was getting berated by the old guard, right?
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The guys with the big pot belly smoking cigarettes,
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the dealership was brand new, fresh paint,
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and it was in North Kentucky and had ashtrays.
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That's how long ago it was, kids.
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It was smoking smoke inside the dealership in Kentucky.
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In fact, up until a few years ago,
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there was still smoking cigarettes, right?
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We had ashtrays in my drawer in case of customer,
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when it was smoking out here, right here.
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No, it's staying in my office.
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Y'all, it was one of the,
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as Malcolm Gladwell's book, the tipping point,
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it was one of the tipping points in my life.
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As these people were, oh, how many hours do you work
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and how much money do you really make?
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And as they were trying to block me out,
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my manager who had just got to the store saw it
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and he said, you know what?
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Said, let's take a walk.
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It was a 10 minute conversation.
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Still this, my daddy was a preacher for 48 years.
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We didn't go hungry, but we didn't have a lot.
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In fact, my mom and dad had it,
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when parachute pants were cool,
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my mom and dad had to meet to figure out in the budget
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how they could buy me parachute pants.
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That's how I grew up.
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But he marched me up the hill
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and he pointed across, I saw a picture of the house.
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He said, Tim, you have so much potential
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and so much God given talent.
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I see in you, you have the ability
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to do great things in this business.
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And one day, one day, you might be able to buy a house
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Ladies and gentlemen, you can have a great sales meeting
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and I'm offered a great sales meeting.
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But when you take the time to pull your people aside
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and see what is in them and pour into them,
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y'all, that was almost four decades ago
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and I'm telling you about it right now.
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What I dare you, I dare you, dare you.
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Get involved in your people.
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Pour in what matters to you people
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because what happens, because we grew very quickly
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the first several years apart now
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people throw microphones at my face.
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And I quote John Maxwell,
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21 irrefutable laws of leadership.
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But I think the two main laws, the law of attraction,
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something's going on here, I'll be a part of it.
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The dealership across the street
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is hitting me in the head with like something,
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I wanna go to that law of attraction
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and then here's the big one.
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We talked about it before, law of duplication.
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Leadership, pouring into the people
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to make them better than them.
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And one of my most proud moments,
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sometimes even in our company people wanna grow
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and maybe there's not a leadership position,
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but even some of the people that have loved us
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since we're going on our 11th tier
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are now BPs of sales, SDPs, directors.
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That makes me, that's proud.
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It's legacy, brother.
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So I think, look, life is short
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and every day is a gift from God
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and if we're truly, do I fail miserably?
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Daily, just ask my wife.
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I'm not gonna give you the self manure,
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but trust me, I fail daily,
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but in all seriousness, every day,
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let me touch somebody,
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let me be his hands and feet,
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let me pour into somebody today and make it better
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and you watch those days turn into weeks,
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those weeks turn into months
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and before you look back,
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you see what God's done in and through your life.
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God's moving, God's doing great things.
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It hurts right now.
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There's so much to be said inside of that
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because at the end of the day,
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we are each uniquely wonderfully made by God.
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And there is a glimpse of him
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that you can get in everybody
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and what's so important for leaders to be able to do,
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it's helped to unlock that person,
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that individual and get their light to shine,
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not so much for them to reflect their manager,
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reflect their boss,
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but for them to shine their unique light.
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I don't care how you walked inside of your shoes
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when you were in my position.
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I care if you as my leader
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can help me walk in my shoes at my optimum ability
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and that's where leadership should be going.
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That's how it should be shifting.
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And I'm loving that the auto industry
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is now more receptive and so much more tenderized
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to that fact because there's a different generation.
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You can't mother eff us.
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Like you can't MF this next generation coming through
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and get a job done.
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They'll change on you.
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They'll go to a different place.
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It's a totally different world there.
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Yeah, it's not all love on your people.
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Let's get in a circle and sing kumbaya.
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There has to be great culture.
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There has to be standards.
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You have to be the standards.
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You have to support you.
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If you don't perform,
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then unfortunately you're not going to work here.
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And that should be simple.
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Yes, love on people and demand that and ask that.
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Matter of fact, you actually really love them
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when you do that and you hold them accountable for it.
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Because if you're not holding them accountable,
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I really believe you don't really love them
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because it's your child.
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You hold them accountable
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because you want them to have the best.
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You don't want them to make mistakes that you made.
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You want them to do better than you ever could
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and 10 times their speed of it, right?
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And that's all we want for our teams.
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And if you're not doing that for your teams,
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you don't love them, period.
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Yeah, look, Darry, I love hanging out with these guys.
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I will tell you, obviously you subscribe,
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hopefully to this podcast.
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I'm going to pull along leadership and beyond
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because I think this is important.
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And quite frankly, look, car now is a great tool.
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There's a lot of great tools.
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At the end of the day,
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it's about what you do in your store.
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You, I don't care for your salesperson.
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I don't care from the receptionist.
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You can make a difference.
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I heard a study said that
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even the most introverted person throughout their lifetime
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influences a minimum of 10,000 people.
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As we walk through the day, what kind of influence?
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Listen, just the great philosopher Michael Jackson
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once said, I'm starting with a man in the mirror,
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the woman in the mirror.
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And at the end of the day, it's about you.
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It's about, are you going to make a difference today?
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At the end of the day, did you make a difference?
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Did you do everything you could today?
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Did you get better than you were yesterday?
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And if we have an industry that is asking, truly asking,
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not just going through a checkbox,
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but truly asking those questions, it's I dare you.
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I'm just telling you, it's literally that simple.
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MJ also said, if you want to be starting something,
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you got to be starting something.
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And these three Kentucky guys showed up here
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because we want to start something at NameMad.
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We want to start being a part of this.
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We want to see this community continue to grow.
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And really, we want these relationships.
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I'm jealous that these relationships have been going
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on for years, and I haven't had a part of it.
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Now we're excited to be here, and we are starting something
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new, and we're excited about that.
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Tim, thank you so much for spending some time for us.
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Can't wait to be on your show and have some fun.
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But there are things that we do to wrap up the show
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to make sure that we all fly together.
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Fred, break them down.
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We like to drop F-bombs.
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And these are the forgive, focus, fly,
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because the thing is that most of us
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hold that weight on our shoulders.
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And a lot of it's ourselves.
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We tell ourselves we can't do it because we messed up yesterday.
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Let it go because you've got to give it another shot.
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A lot of times we learn things from those mistakes.
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Matter of fact, if you're not learning from your mistakes,
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you're not growing.
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So let's learn together and let's grow together.
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So we're going to forgive, and we're
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going to focus together so we can reach out
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and start flying together.
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And when we're flying, we just keep growing.
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So let's do it together on a count of three.
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One, two, three, forgive, focus, fly, and keep growing,
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Thank you so much for tuning in, everybody.
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You have been brewing solutions on the CarGuy Coffee
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podcast at NAMAD, the 45th membership
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meeting with the one, the only, Tim Cox.
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From CarNow, we'll talk to you later, everybody.