Car Keys with Robin Leech and Jay de Marcken – April 13, 2026
About this episode
Press-day access at the New York auto show sets the stage for a debate: Robin Leech and Jay de Marcken both found the overall event underwhelming, even with a few standout concepts. They praise the Hyundai Boulder body-on-frame SUV concept and the Genesis G90 shooting break’s styling, but criticize dealer-heavy displays, missing luxury brands, and a lack of future-focused tech education (EVs, hybrids, safety). They also clash on interiors and gripe about touchscreens replacing physical controls, plus marketing missteps like bland Stellantis/Ram presentations and questionable design choices.
New York auto show
"This week's show will detail some things about the recent New York auto show that both of us got to this year in different days and different things were going on, but J is gonna start us out because"
An auto show is like a big event where car companies bring their newest cars to show off. The New York Auto Show is one of the bigger ones, so it’s where you’ll hear about new models and updates first.
The New York Auto Show is a major North American event where automakers debut new vehicles, concepts, and technologies. For listeners, it’s a useful context clue for why certain cars and features are being discussed—because show coverage often focuses on what’s newly announced or highlighted to the press.
press passes
"I just want to ask you about your experience. You got the royal treatment We both had Press passes to attend the show this year. Unfortunately, I was not able to go on one of the two press days"
A press pass is permission for media people to get into the event early or in special areas. It usually means you can attend briefings and see things before the general public.
Press passes are credentials that let journalists and media attend events like auto shows on designated days. They often come with access to briefings, speaker sessions, and early viewing, which can shape what information gets shared and when.
two-day press days
"I got to the first day of the two-day press days Before which occurred before the show opened to the public and so I got the full Monty of Things starting from a very nicely laid-out breakfast for everybody who showed up"
Before the public can go, auto shows often have special early days for the press. Those days can include extra events and previews that regular visitors don’t see right away.
Auto shows commonly run press days before public opening, giving media time to attend organized sessions and preview vehicles. The timing matters because announcements and “first look” impressions can differ between press and public days.
public days
"But it was a way to get around the public Days which are fine, but you have a different kind of person looking at the cars ... I think doing press days and you do during the public days"
Public days are when regular visitors can go to the auto show. It’s usually busier and the experience can feel different from the media-only days.
Public days are the portions of an auto show open to general attendees. Compared with press days, they tend to be more crowded and less tightly controlled, which affects how people experience displays and presentations.
Subaru
"But you watched some of the Events unfold at the various displays like Subaru, Hyundai, Kia Ford and the like all of which were timed on a schedule that we had"
Subaru is a car brand from Japan. They’re especially known for cars that can drive well in bad weather thanks to their all-wheel drive.
Subaru is a Japanese automaker known for its all-wheel-drive systems and boxer engines. In press/public events, Subaru displays often highlight new models, tech features, and driving impressions.
Hyundai
"But you watched some of the Events unfold at the various displays like Subaru, Hyundai, Kia Ford and the like all of which were timed on a schedule that we had"
Hyundai is a big car company from South Korea. They often bring new cars and features to events like this.
Hyundai is a major South Korean automaker that frequently showcases new vehicles and technology at auto events. Their presence in the segment suggests the show had multiple brand-specific display areas running on a schedule.
Kia
"But you watched some of the Events unfold at the various displays like Subaru, Hyundai, Kia Ford and the like all of which were timed on a schedule that we had"
Kia is another car brand from South Korea. They show off their latest cars at events like this.
Kia is a South Korean automaker that commonly participates in auto show press days with model and feature presentations. The mention here is about how the event was organized across different brand displays.
Ford
"But you watched some of the Events unfold at the various displays like Subaru, Hyundai, Kia Ford and the like all of which were timed on a schedule that we had"
Ford is a well-known American car brand. They usually bring their newest vehicles to events like auto shows.
Ford is an American automaker that typically uses auto events to highlight new trucks, SUVs, and technology. In this segment, Ford is one of several brands with scheduled presentations at their display.
Toyota
"...and then there was a Ford one later on and Toyota one so on down the line of Some of the major displayers..."
Toyota is a big car company. The speaker is saying they had a Toyota presentation as part of their planned schedule.
Toyota is a major automaker that commonly participates in auto shows with model reveals and press presentations. Here, it’s mentioned as another scheduled brand stop in the speaker’s itinerary.
Genesis G90
"SUV Yes, yeah, there was the Genesis G90 shooting break So there are a few a few vehicles..."
The Genesis G90 is a luxury car (a sedan) made by Genesis. It’s designed to feel comfortable and upscale, especially for long drives. It’s mentioned because it’s one of the brand’s top models and can come in different body styles.
The Genesis G90 is a large luxury sedan from Genesis, built to deliver a high-end driving and comfort experience. It’s significant because it represents Genesis’s flagship approach to quietness, refinement, and upscale features. It may be mentioned in a discussion of the brand’s lineup, including special body styles like a shooting brake variant.
Hyundai Genesis
"SUV Yes, yeah, there was the Genesis G90 shooting break So there are a few a few vehi..."
Genesis is a luxury car brand that started as part of Hyundai. When people say “Hyundai Genesis,” they usually mean the Genesis line of upscale cars. The G90 is one of the models people reference from that lineup.
“Hyundai Genesis” refers to the Genesis luxury brand that originated under Hyundai’s umbrella. The Genesis G90 (and related variants) is part of that lineup, which is why the conversation may connect Hyundai and Genesis when listing vehicles. In a podcast, it’s often brought up as a way to describe the luxury models associated with the Genesis name.
two-door convertible
"Well the two-door convertible and They don't make it anymore"
A two-door convertible is a car with two doors where the roof can be opened up. It’s the kind of car you buy for open-air driving, but it can be harder and cost more to build and maintain.
A two-door convertible is a car with two doors and a roof that can be lowered, turning it into an open-air vehicle. Convertibles often have higher production complexity and can be more expensive to maintain than hardtop models, which can affect how brands allocate inventory and marketing.
inventory
"But they've got inventory around the cell because it's sales are so slow, but but it's a car show. It's not a used car lot You know, but they don't think we agree"
In automotive retail, “inventory” refers to the cars a dealer or manufacturer has on hand to sell. When sales are slow, dealers may hold more inventory than they want, which can lead to discounting or less aggressive marketing.
Cadillacs
"I mean there was no Cadillacs BMW Mercedes and Audi were all represented by"
Cadillac is a luxury car brand. The speaker is saying there weren’t any Cadillacs shown at the event.
Cadillac is General Motors’ luxury brand, and it’s often associated with large sedans and SUVs. The speaker’s point here is about which brands were represented at the show, implying Cadillac wasn’t present.
BMW
"there was no Cadillacs BMW Mercedes and Audi were all represented by"
BMW is a well-known German car brand. Here it’s mentioned as one of the brands that had cars on display.
BMW is a German automaker known for performance-oriented vehicles and a strong dealer network. Mentioning BMW alongside other brands sets the context for how many different manufacturers were represented at the display.
Audi
"there was no Cadillacs BMW Mercedes and Audi were all represented by"
Audi is a German car brand. The speaker is saying Audi was represented at the event with cars on display.
Audi is a German automaker known for premium vehicles and Quattro all-wheel-drive systems. The speaker includes Audi in the set of brands that had multiple cars represented at the show.
Mercedes
"there was no Cadillacs BMW Mercedes and Audi were all represented by"
Mercedes is a luxury car brand from Germany. In this conversation it’s just one of the brands that showed up with cars at the display.
Mercedes-Benz (often shortened to “Mercedes”) is a German luxury automaker. The segment uses it as part of a list of brands that were represented at the event.
Mustangs
"Okay, so you had you had Mustangs like you had the five or six variations of the Mustang and that's great The Mustang is a great car"
Mustangs are Ford’s famous sports cars. The speaker is saying there were several different versions shown, even if they don’t sell in huge numbers.
The Ford Mustang is a long-running American pony car line. The speaker references multiple Mustang variations, emphasizing that even when sales volumes are small, the model lineup still attracts attention.
GM
"But but Ford and GM were limited to all to crossovers and SUVs and a few electric options"
GM stands for General Motors, the big company behind brands like Chevrolet and Cadillac. They’re mentioned because the speaker felt GM’s presence was focused on certain vehicle types and brands.
GM refers to General Motors, which owns brands like Chevrolet, Cadillac, and Buick. The speaker later specifically mentions Chevrolet and Cadillac, using GM as the umbrella for how the company’s brands were (or weren’t) represented.
VW
"Still there and VW and VW was very disappointing to me"
VW (Volkswagen) is a car brand. The speaker is saying they didn’t see enough interesting new stuff from VW at the show.
VW is shorthand for Volkswagen, which competes across sedans, crossovers, and EVs. The speaker says Volkswagen was disappointing because it didn’t have anything new or exciting to offer at the event.
Chevrolet
"You take GM for instance. There was a there was a pretty substantial display of Chevrolet's"
Chevrolet is a GM brand. The speaker is saying Chevrolet had a big presence at the event.
Chevrolet is GM’s mainstream brand, and the speaker says GM had a substantial display of Chevrolet vehicles. This is an example of how one GM brand showed up strongly even if other GM brands were less visible.
Toyota Land Cruiser
"[757.4s] So when you see the concept vehicle you think of Jeep Wrangler [760.9s] You think of [762.0s] Right, but also Toyota Land Cruiser Toyota forerunner [767.6s] And also the pickup trucks right and and and so Hyundai with that concept is is"
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a tough SUV that’s built for off-roading and long-term reliability. The host is saying Hyundai wants to compete in that same “serious SUV” category.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is a long-running, body-on-frame SUV famous for durability and off-road ability. The speaker is positioning Hyundai’s concept as a future competitor to this kind of rugged, truck-based SUV.
body on frame
"[778.9s] You know getting ready to to invade [783.1s] Invade is the correct word. I'm afraid invade the market of [787.8s] Medium to full-size pickup trucks or a body on frame [793.5s] SUVs"
Body-on-frame means the car’s body sits on a separate heavy-duty frame underneath. Trucks and many off-road SUVs use this because it’s strong for towing and rough terrain.
“Body-on-frame” describes a vehicle architecture where the body is mounted on a separate ladder frame. It’s common in rugged SUVs and trucks because it can handle towing and rough-road use well, and it often supports off-road hardware.
Jeep Cherokee
"You know, I don't know I get to the Jeep Cherokee before we show is through because as a what I've discovered it with the newest models out there There are a couple of things that are that have been discontinued as Interior components, okay?"
The Jeep Cherokee is an SUV from Jeep. They’re talking about what the inside looks and feels like, and whether the interior quality seems good or cheap.
The Jeep Cherokee is a compact-to-midsize SUV known for its Jeep branding and available off-road-oriented trims. Here, the discussion focuses on interior components and how the newest models feel/are finished compared to expectations.
cigar and cigarette lighters
"I'm talking about is what we used to call cigar and cigarette lighters which are electrical But they they provide electricity for plug-in componentry which you can buy at its stores"
This is the old-school 12-volt plug in the dash. People used it for chargers and accessories, and the speaker is saying newer cars may not have it.
“Cigar”/“cigarette lighter” outlets are the classic 12V accessory sockets used to power devices and accessories. Even when the lighter element is gone, many cars keep the same-style outlet for charging and powering electronics.
dead battery
"So if you have a dead battery I have yet to find out where they have put the battery if you had to plug it in"
A dead battery means the car won’t start because the battery has no power. They’re saying it’s hard to find where to connect jumper cables.
A “dead battery” is when the vehicle’s battery can’t provide enough electrical power to start the engine or run systems. The speaker is highlighting how difficult it is to locate the battery and the correct jump-start connections in the newer Cherokee.
jumper cables
"But what an easily easy to find positive and negative Connection for jumper cables should that vehicle have a dead battery?"
Jumper cables are the cables you use to start a car with a dead battery. You connect them to the right positive and negative points so the jump works.
Jumper cables are used to jump-start a vehicle with a dead battery by connecting it to a running car or a jump starter. The speaker specifically mentions the need to find the positive and negative connection points for safe, correct jump-starting.
shooting break
"Well, it's a it's a station wagon it's a shooting break as the Brits would call it"
A “shooting break” is basically a fancy, sportier kind of station wagon. It’s often shaped to look sleeker, not boxy like many wagons.
“Shooting break” is a British term for a sporty, often more stylish take on a wagon. It usually implies a longer-roof, fastback-like profile and a more premium or performance-oriented vibe than a typical family estate wagon.
Hyundai Santa Fe
"and I'm not saying now or like the new let's say Hyundai Santa Fe Which is a square-back Thing go like a box. That's an SUV."
The Hyundai Santa Fe is an SUV. The speakers mention it because its rear shape is more upright and boxy, which makes it look less like a wagon.
The Hyundai Santa Fe is a mainstream midsize SUV, and the hosts use it as an example of a “square-back” design—more upright and boxy than a traditional wagon. The comparison highlights how body shape affects whether something reads as a wagon versus an SUV.
auto shows
"Do you think the days of auto shows are numbered? Well, yeah, we've had this conversation absolutely... I again after going to the show I saw these YouTube clips that were four or five minutes long that made you really want to go and see the auto show."
An auto show is an event where car companies bring cars and show them off to the public and the media. The hosts are debating whether these events still matter and how they could be made more engaging.
Auto shows are large public events where automakers display current models, concepts, and new technology. The discussion focuses on whether traditional auto shows are losing relevance and how they might evolve—especially in Europe and through press coverage and online clips.
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