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Car Keys with Robin Leech and Jay de Marcken – April 20, 2026

Car Keys with Robin Leech and Jay de Marcken – April 20, 2026

CAR KEYS Apr 20, 2026 28 min
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Robin Leech and Jay de Marcken trade stories about modern car tech, starting with how touchscreen radios can be distracting—especially when station lists require scrolling and you don’t know what to ask for in voice control while driving. They compare Audi and Jeep experiences, then pivot to EV ownership realities via a high-mileage Rivian R1S review, weighing savings against faster charging costs. The discussion also covers pricey windshield replacements from embedded sensors, hybrid powertrain tech (including a Saudi prototype), and practical summer driving/safety tips like tire wear checks.

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touch screens

"the tail of two touch screen experiences... I was driving a Q5 Audi 2021... and I have two Jeep Cherokees with touch screens"

Many newer cars use touchscreens instead of physical buttons. The issue raised here is that it can be harder and more distracting to use them while driving, especially when you’re trying to find something quickly like a radio station.

Car

Audi Q5 Audi

"I recently actually before this show started this morning. I was driving a Q5 Audi 2021 not a 26"

The Audi Q5 is a luxury SUV. Here, the discussion is about the dashboard touchscreen—how it can make it harder to quickly find things like radio stations while you’re driving.

Car

Jeep Cherokee

"and I have two Jeep Cherokees with touch screens also vintage 2020 and 2019 and those touch screens have changed"

The Jeep Cherokee is an SUV. In this part, the host is using different Cherokee model years to compare how their screens work and how annoying they can be compared with older controls.

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push buttons with preset channels

"Styles on your on your dashboard push buttons with preset channels"

Push buttons with preset channels are traditional radio controls that let drivers select stations quickly without navigating menus on a screen. In this segment, they’re contrasted with touchscreen interfaces to argue that physical controls are easier to use while driving.

Concept

infotainment screen menu navigation while driving

"And you are attached to a radio station the screen reduces itself to basically the station you're on ... Reload the screen by going into the List number and you have to look at it and push your finger on it ... Up pops a list of stations and then you've got to scroll"

They’re describing how you sometimes have to tap through menus on the car screen to change the radio. If you don’t know what you’re looking for, it can take more time and attention while you’re driving.

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voice control

"those little buttons to push to do voice control And try to get a station aren't of much use Because you don't know what you're asking for you do not know what you're asking for"

Voice control means you can talk to the car to do things like change the radio station. It works best when you already know the exact station name or call letters.

Concept

distraction factor

"We have been talking about the distraction of the touchscreen situations and jay and I think both and I both agree that There is a distraction factor that is not very pleasant Especially if you're just using a car in a rental from a rental agency on a trip And there is no consistency between many of the touchscreens between the manufacturers vehicles that you might find yourself in But anything that takes your eyes off the road for more than a second Is is not convenient from a safety standpoint"

“Distraction factor” means how much your attention gets pulled away from driving. If you have to look at a screen for too long, it can make driving less safe.

Brand

GM

"The radio controls I thought were the best at the time were the early to mid 2000s gm radios With just a couple Round buttons that dials that you turned and pressed"

GM is General Motors, the company behind brands like Chevrolet and GMC. They’re saying older GM radios were easier to use because they had physical knobs/buttons.

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round buttons

"With just a couple Round buttons that dials that you turned and pressed And you could very quickly and very easily find any one of hundreds of uh radio stations on any band with"

Round buttons are physical knobs/buttons you can feel and operate without staring at the screen. The hosts prefer them because they’re quicker and less distracting.

Concept

infotainment menus

"Okay, well if you use that you can navigate pretty easily and pretty quickly through the menus I'm sorry. I correct myself the outie does not come on a round dial to twist through"

Infotainment menus are the car’s on-screen options for things like music and navigation. They’re talking about how easy it is to use those menus while driving.

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voice activated commands

"All that is a moot point because all that is a moot point because the voice activated commands are just getting better Better and better Correct. I can push the button on my outie steering wheel or my jeep steering wheel and say tune to fm"

Voice control means you can talk to the car to do things like change the radio. The point they’re making is that it’s getting better, so it’s easier to use while driving.

Brand

Lucid

"Uh, you know, I was reading about Rivian. I was reading about lucid. Let's talk about Rivian because Rivian is a very interesting electric car vehicle"

Lucid is another electric-car company. The hosts mention it as part of the news and EV brands they’ve been reading about.

Car

Rivian electric vehicle

"Very quick knowledge about a long term high mileage in a year's use of a rivian electric vehicle... the rivian isn't very good electric vehicle overall"

They’re talking about a Rivian electric car that someone owned for about a year. The point is to see whether it’s actually practical and cost-effective when you drive a lot and charge often.

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high mileage

"Very quick knowledge about a long term high mileage in a year's use of a rivian electric vehicle"

“High mileage” in an EV context matters because charging frequency, energy costs, and wear items become more significant. When someone drives far more than average, small differences in charging price and efficiency can add up to big annual cost changes.

Concept

real-world EV cost-of-ownership vs. assumptions

"The pros and the cons of that particular vehicle for anybody who might want to purchase it... he used the term 14 000 dollars in fuel costs... charging in public fast charging stations Costs roughly twice as much as what cost Charging at home would cost"

They’re looking at whether EVs really save money in real life. The takeaway is that your costs depend a lot on how you charge—especially whether you rely on expensive public fast chargers or cheaper home charging.

Car

R1S

"the r1 uh s right the suv And has put on about 90 000 miles in that one year"

R1S is Rivian’s SUV. In this story, the owner drove it extremely hard—about 90,000 miles in a year—so the discussion is really about whether an electric SUV stays practical when you rack up miles fast.

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fast charging stations

"charging in in and this is a rule of thumb... charging in public uh fast charging stations Costs roughly twice as much as what cost Charging at home would cost"

Fast charging stations are the quick-charge public chargers you use when you’re out. They usually cost more than plugging in at home, so they can erase some of the savings people expect from driving an EV.

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charging at home

"Costs roughly twice as much as what cost Charging at home would cost so he was well aware that when he was"

Charging at home means plugging your EV in where you live. It’s usually cheaper and more convenient than using public fast chargers, which is why it matters for the overall cost of owning an EV.

Concept

EV range (300-400 mile range)

"“with 300 400 mile range… that covers the needs of most people… most people can just charge it home”"

Range is how far an electric car can go before it needs charging. If your usual driving fits within that range, you can usually charge at home instead of stopping at chargers.

Car

Rivian R2

"... uh read elsewhere that the Configurator for the r2 the the smaller uh suv coming out in 2027 is abou..."
Car

Rivian R2

"...ble to go and configure and place an order For a rivian r2 sometime in may of this year um"

The Rivian R2 is a new Rivian SUV that people can configure and order. The podcast is pointing out the timeframe when orders may open. For owners, that timing can matter because key setup and service processes are usually tied to the vehicle’s production and dealer systems.

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radar sensors or cameras in the windshield

"“you’ve got something stuck to the windshield… I think they’re radar sensors or maybe cameras… you have to replace a windshield”"

Many newer cars use sensors or cameras mounted near the windshield to help with features like collision warnings. If those parts are built into the windshield area, replacing the glass can be more complicated and costly.

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windshield replacement costs

"“you no longer just go and replace a windshield… used to cost roughly 350… The windshields today… $1400 and up depending on the amount of technology”"

Windshield replacements are expensive now because many cars put sensors and cameras in the glass. So you’re not just replacing a pane—you’re replacing a high-tech part, which drives up the cost.

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insurance costs skyrocket due to modern sensor/camera-equipped cars

"because of the technology uh upgrades of cars and they and things like cameras and other sensors that are embedded in in in front... bumper sensors... When you hit you get hit in a new car... And maybe replace some light bulbs in the car That has cost caused the insurance costs insurance companies cost of car repairs to skyrocket"

Newer cars have lots of cameras and sensors that help with safety. After a crash, fixing the body isn’t the whole job—those systems may need recalibration too, which makes repairs more expensive.

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windshield replacements

"Mentioned in one of the magazines is having gone through two Uh, and they call it expensive windshield replacements in in a year's worth of uh use of that vehicle totaling $4,200 and change Uh for those two windshields to be totally replaced and which includes camera realignment"

Replacing a windshield means taking out the old glass and putting in a new one. Many newer cars have cameras or sensors tied to the windshield, so the shop may need to line those up again after the new glass is installed.

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camera realignment

"totaling $4,200 and change Uh for those two windshields to be totally replaced and which includes camera realignment Uh"

After a windshield is replaced, the car’s camera may need to be re-aimed. If it’s not aligned, safety features that rely on that camera can become inaccurate.

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windshield-mounted driver-assistance sensors/cameras

"Back to what I was saying earlier about something that was in the attach to the windshield that had to be aligned when the new windshield was put in"

New cars often have safety tech that’s mounted to the windshield. When the windshield is replaced, that tech has to be lined up again so the car can “see” the road the right way.

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stones from sand trucks

"What happens is in the winter time you have stones from sand trucks and other things and and you have you Year-round we have stones that fall out of some of these big dump trucks"

When winter maintenance trucks spread sand or salt, they can also kick up small rocks. If you’re driving behind them, those rocks can hit your windshield and cause chips or cracks.

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road debris impact risk (following distance behind trucks)

"Uh, dirt Uh, whatever else in their back that whenever a truck goes over a bump You need to be aware as you're driving behind them of what falls out of the uh Back of these big trucks ... I have had a windshield chip uh from a stone when the stones in need and pebbles of things fall out of the back tailgates of these trucks They bounce on the road"

The segment highlights how debris falling from trucks—stones, asphalt, and dirt—creates a windshield damage risk for cars behind them. Maintaining a safe following distance reduces the chance that debris will strike your vehicle’s front glass.

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windshield chip

"Recently I saw one that said not responsible for broken windshields. I'm like, okay, that's very right I I have had a windshield chip uh from a stone when the stones in need and pebbles of things fall out of the back tailgates of these trucks"

A windshield chip is a small crack or dent caused by a rock hitting the glass. It can grow into a bigger crack later, especially with heat and cold, so it’s best to get it checked.

Concept

tailgater

"Change your driving habits if you were known to be a tailgater behind these big trucks that are carrying loads of construction materials or whatever else [..] And they're driving in front of you"

Tailgating means you’re following too closely. If the car or truck ahead suddenly slows down or something falls off, you won’t have enough time to react safely.

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windshield angle

"The more vertical your windshield is on your vehicle and some of the suv such as the Toyota land cruisers the broncos [..] Are all relatively vertical compared to some of these swept-back type windshields that are on the sedans and the suvs [..] less prone to possible dent or chip accidents and or a complete shattering or splintering of a windshield"

They’re talking about windshield shape. A more upright windshield can help reduce the chance that road debris hits in a way that chips or cracks the glass badly.

Car

Toyota Land Cruiser

"The more vertical your windshield is on your vehicle and some of the suv such as the Toyota land cruisers the broncos [..] were all mentioned in the in the motor trend article"

They’re saying the Land Cruiser’s windshield sits more upright. That shape can help reduce how easily debris hits and damages the glass compared with more slanted windshields.

Car

Jeep Wrangler

"The more vertical your windshield is on your vehicle and some of the suv such as the Toyota land cruisers the broncos [..] The jeep wranglers were all mentioned in the in the motor trend article"

They’re using the Wrangler as an example of an SUV with a more upright windshield. That shape can help lessen how easily the glass gets damaged by debris.

Car

Honda Crv

"For me, uh, the the Honda crv and I got to Drive one again in the last few days ... the newest uh model, you know post 2023 and on bigger than ever ... hybrid"

They’re reviewing a newer Honda CR-V (an SUV). The big point is that the newer one is more comfortable and has a hybrid system that changes how the powertrain works.

Concept

hybrid powertrain where the engine acts as a generator

"Mostly there is no connection between the um Internal combustion engine and and and and the wheels being driven. So Basically the engine is a generator ... charges the battery ... Supplies the energy ... To the electric motor that that drives both the front and the rear wheels ... at highway speeds or driving up a very steep hill ... Do the does the engine directly engage to the uh The drive? Yes"

In this kind of hybrid, the gas engine doesn’t always “push” the car directly. Often it runs a generator to make electricity for the battery, and then electric motors move the wheels. Under harder or faster driving, the gas engine can connect more directly to help drive.

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Internal combustion engine

"Mostly there is no connection between the um Internal combustion engine and and and and the wheels being driven."

That’s the normal gas engine. In a hybrid, it may not always directly drive the wheels; it can also be used to make electricity for the battery.

Concept

battery charging from the engine (generator charges the battery)

"Basically the engine is a generator drives a generator which in turn charges the battery which in turn Supplies the energy To the electric motor"

The gas engine can also act like a “power plant” by turning a generator. That generator charges the battery, and the battery then powers the electric motor to drive the car.

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front and rear wheels

"To the electric motor that that drives both the front and the rear wheels when needed"

They’re saying the car can send power to both the front and rear wheels. That can help with grip, especially when the road is slippery or you need more traction.

Concept

engine directly engages at highway speeds or steep hills

"only when Uh at highway speeds or driving up a very steep hill Do the does the engine directly engage to the uh The drive? Yes"

The speaker is explaining “blended” operation: the vehicle can switch between electric-only propulsion (using battery energy) and a mode where the engine connects to the drivetrain for additional power. This typically happens when more sustained power is required, such as highway cruising or steep grades.

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miles to the gallon

"It's just a very comfortable ride and they get up to 40 miles to the gallon..."

MPG tells you how efficiently a car uses gas—how many miles it can go on one gallon. Hybrid cars can show high MPG because they sometimes run on electricity instead of burning gas all the time.

Company

Saudi Arabian oil company

"...you may have seen that robin aramco the Saudi Arabian oil company Has ordered a prototype being built..."

The speaker mentions a major Saudi oil company funding a prototype. Big energy companies sometimes invest in new car technology because it affects how fuel and electricity are used in the future.

Concept

generator powers a small electric motor that goes to one wheel or the other

"...each one Powers that you know charges a generator that in turn powers a small electric motor that goes to one wheel or the other..."

In this setup, the gas engine spins a generator to make electricity. That electricity then runs an electric motor that can drive the wheels, potentially on the front or the rear depending on how the car is built.

Concept

hybrid powertrain can be installed either on front wheels or rear wheels

"Arguably the powertrain can be installed either on front wheels or rear wheels of a vehicle..."

They’re saying the same hybrid system could be built to drive the front wheels or the rear wheels. Where the power goes changes how the car feels and how it’s packaged inside.

Concept

electric car world propulsion methods

"Well that that just goes to show you that technology continues to evolve Along many aspects of the electric car world electric Propulsion methods world of cars"

They’re talking about the different ways electric and hybrid cars can move. The takeaway is that car technology is still changing and there are several competing ideas being tested.

Concept

rotary engine

"...whether that Road tax so-called road tax engine or rotary engine was going to become a new Engine to go to and it never did because its mileage didn't turn out to be very good in mpg..."

A rotary engine is a different way to make power than the usual piston engine. It uses a spinning rotor, and that can make the engine feel smooth. The downside is that it hasn’t always been as efficient or as easy to meet emissions rules as regular engines.

Concept

road tax

"...whether that Road tax so-called road tax engine or rotary engine was going to become a new Engine to go to and it never did because its mileage didn't turn out to be very good..."

“Road tax” is a government fee related to driving or vehicle rules. Sometimes it’s used to encourage people to buy more efficient or cleaner cars. The speaker is saying that even if rotary engines were considered, they didn’t end up being popular because they weren’t efficient enough.

Concept

Aramco hybrid powertrain prototype

"...periodically you see something like the the aramco hybrid powertrain prototype you were just talking about I think yes... technologically interesting... If it works as it is supposed to be going to do so..."

This sounds like a new hybrid car power system being developed with help from Aramco. A hybrid uses both a regular engine and an electric system to use less fuel. The big question is whether it actually works well in real driving, not just on paper.

Term

chips in windshields

"Hey, let me ask you something. We talked about chips in uh in in uh Wind shields and somebody was asking me are the local towns going to clean the the side roads for all the sand still on the roads..."

A chip in your windshield is usually a small crack caused by something hitting the glass. If you don’t fix it, it can turn into a bigger crack later. It’s especially important when weather changes and roads are still rough from winter.

Car

Mustang

"I saw that you took out your Mustang last uh week when it was well, it was a convertible... The Mustang was a 95"

A Ford Mustang is a popular American sports car. The point here is that a 1995 Mustang is older, so it has fewer modern gadgets than newer cars.

Concept

convertible week

"I saw that you took out your Mustang last uh week when it was well, it was a convertible and we know how the weather was... Ideal convertible use car vehicle, uh, weather"

This is basically a joke/idea about using a convertible only when the weather is nice. Cold or rainy days make convertibles less enjoyable or practical.

Car

Audi A8

"I have my uh 2001 Audi a8 which doesn't get out in the winter time... They're all cars that are devoid of all the newest technology technological advancements"

The Audi A8 is a large luxury car. This 2001 version is older, so it doesn’t have the modern touchscreen/tech you’d expect today, but it still includes basic safety and convenience features.

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chimes

"...it has seatbelts that it has and it has chimes for an open door and leaving on your lights"

Chimes are the little beeping sounds a car makes to warn you. Here they’re talking about basic reminders like an open door or lights left on.

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seatbelts

"The Mustang was a 95 and the Audi's are 2001... it has seatbelts that it has and it has chimes for an open door and leaving on your lights"

Seatbelts are what keep you from flying forward in a crash. The hosts are pointing out that even older cars still have this basic safety equipment.

Term

CD players

"It has a cd both have cd players to take care of my cd collection, which uh, the new cars, uh"

A CD player lets you play music from physical discs. The hosts are basically saying their older cars still support CDs, while newer cars often don’t.

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power port

"Uh is disappearing from the newest vehicles out and the Jeep Cherokee is annoying because it's no longer a power port In the dashboard"

A power port is the outlet in the car you plug things into, like a phone charger. If it’s missing, you may need an adapter or a different charging spot.

Concept

winter tire safety and seasonal tire wear

"safety driving I would say uh Check your tire treads before the winter comes because if you are down to uh, where the uh, where indicators are about level with the rest of the tire"

The segment emphasizes checking tires before winter because cold weather and winter precipitation demand more traction. Tires wear down over time, and many drivers don’t inspect them until a failure occurs, so proactive checks reduce risk.

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tire treads

"Check your tire treads before the winter comes because if you are down to uh, where the uh, where indicators are about level with the rest of the tire"

Tire tread is the grooves on the tire that help the car grip the road. If the tread is worn down, the tires don’t handle rain or snow as well and can become unsafe.

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wear indicator

"because if you are down to uh, where the uh, where indicators are about level with the rest of the tire Surface on your tires."

Wear indicators are built into the tire to show when the tread is getting too low. If you can see them, it’s a sign the tire is worn out and shouldn’t be used for safety-critical driving.

Concept

hydroplaning

"You should not think about keeping those tires through a Much less a heavy rained area But uh next winter conditions if we have a winter condition like we did uh this last year"

Hydroplaning is when your tires ride on top of water instead of gripping the road. Worn tread makes it much easier for that to happen in rain.

Concept

collector cars tire aging (cracked tires)

"The other safety tip is that old tires on, you know collectors cars, uh Need to be checked need to be changed period I recently had that happen on my I know they were cracked"

Even if a collector car doesn’t get driven a lot, the tires can still go bad over time. Cracks in the rubber are a warning sign that the tire may not grip safely.

Term

tread life

"[1616.2s] And so I put new tires on tires that looked like they had another 20 000 miles of tread life on them [1622.1s] But they didn't on the side walls"

Tread life is basically how much grip is left in the tire’s tread. But a tire can still be unsafe because the rubber can age and weaken even if the tread looks like it has plenty of life.

Term

side walls

"[1622.1s] But they didn't on the side walls [1624.3s] And they didn't and this and there was actually tread separation between the"

The sidewall is the tire’s “side” part that holds the tire together. If it’s cracking or looking worn, the tire may be unsafe even if the tread looks okay.

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tread separation

"But they didn't on the side walls [1624.3s] And they didn't and this and there was actually tread separation between the [1628.3s] The deep parts of the tread on that vehicle"

Tread separation means the rubber on the outside of the tire starts to separate from the rest of the tire. When that happens, the tire can lose traction or fail—most likely when you’re going faster.

Concept

old tires are not safe to drive

"So yes, old cars with with or cars with old tires on them are not safe tires to drive [1638.6s] Except maybe at slow speeds around here if you're not going on a trip [1643.3s] Yeah, yeah, any day? I totally agree. So old tires, you know, even on not if you don't drive the car a lot and and [1651.8s] And the tires have not been changed in five or six years. They should be changed [1655.7s] That's the moral of the story and with cars being parked outside in the sun the sun dries the tires"

Tires can get old and unsafe even if they still have tread left. Heat and sunlight can make the rubber hard and weak, so the tire may fail when you drive faster.

Concept

sun dries the tires / UV heat aging

"[1655.7s] That's the moral of the story and with cars being parked outside in the sun the sun dries the tires [1661.0s] Along with the the the rubber dries out and and sun accentuates that that factor that wear factor in tires [1668.6s] You often see campers parked with the tires covered in people's parking lots"

Sunlight and heat can make tire rubber dry out and get brittle. That can make the tire less safe, even if it hasn’t been driven much.

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camper

"[1668.6s] You often see campers parked with the tires covered in people's parking lots, you know, these big motorized campers [1676.2s] Uh [1676.6s] As they're trying to keep the sun from uh deteriorating the tires on those big vehicles because those tires are very [1682.7s] expensive to replace as well"

RV and camper tires can age even if they don’t rack up many miles, because they sit and bake in the sun. People cover them to help slow down that wear.

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