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This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half.

I don't know if we've ever argued.

Did I piss you off over the weekend?

I'm still sour that I was the best man at your win.

Who was your best man, Dale?

TJ.

You don't need a cool vest for that race.

What are you thinking?

Get him, TJ.

That's the way it's starting to show.

All right then.

Well, thank you, Dale.

I'm happy to take over.

Hold on.

Hey, man.

Hey, what's up?

I literally just said thanks, Dale, for I just started.

So thanks.

Oh, you're just starting?

Yeah, I'm just starting.

It's 11.03 here.

Well, I started to show at 8.30 in the morning.

Yeah, they gave me...

I'm on West Coast time still.

So 10, 9, 8.

Yeah, I started at 8.

You're on the East Coast.

Yeah, no, I know.

But it's 8 somewhere.

So I started the show at 8.

Okay, all right.

I was just checking in.

I figured you'd be dumb enough.

No, I mean, I legitimately said thanks, Dale, and was getting ready to say, all right, welcome

to the Dale Jr. download.

And I look at my phone and I was like, oh, god, somebody's interrupting.

And it says, Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s FaceTiming You.

Well, what a coincidence.

I wasn't playing it, I promise.

I'm going to get back to your show here.

Have fun.

I'll check in later.

They're going to think that's planned.

Perfect.

That is great.

I didn't realize I had to miss text from Dale.

Of how it went?

Yeah, he was asking me how it went.

I didn't realize.

I'm going great.

Yeah, he thought it was over.

We normally type 8.30, but...

No.

All right.

Well, there you go.

There we go.

Moving on.

Okay.

All right.

So Tyler Green, thank you for coming on.

Thanks for replacing TJ.

I think you're taller than him, so it works out.

Big shoes to fill.

Big shoes to fill, though.

How was your...

Well, first, hold on.

I like to remind people I went to the Met Gala.

What are we wearing today?

Who are we wearing?

I am wearing my uncle Jeff's number eight scheme shirt that he won Vegas with, the very

first Vegas bush race back in the day.

Dimeridge.

Wait, where?

Oh, is that like the team?

Dimeridge team.

Yeah.

Before, is it PPC with the Nesquik and the Nesquik car?

Perfect.

Yes.

Well, I got gifted this over the weekend, not knowing I was going on the show or they

weren't knowing I was going on the show, so it worked out perfect.

Yeah.

That's pristine.

Yes.

So...

For the audio audience, what are you wearing?

For the audio audience, I love them to death.

I wear Daylearn Heart Senior Original Printed.

This has never been worn.

It still has the tag on it.

So this is the first time it's been worn, so it's perfect.

So I saved this.

I look like a complete fool to my friends because I had this laid out since I got back

from San Diego like it's the first day of school, sitting on the counter like ready to

go.

It's not wrinkled in your clothes.

Yeah, it's the only thing not wrinkled.

I had it set and all nice.

Yeah.

Because I was like, I'm not going to accidentally put a different shirt on and walk out.

So it's perfect.

So yeah, how long have you been spotting for me?

Six years?

Six years.

A long time.

Long enough not to remember my first race, obviously.

Yeah.

So the first race we had together was...

You said Daytona.

I said Daytona Road Course where it was hot.

No.

No, it was Dover.

Dover was the first one.

The year before that?

No.

No, no.

That year.

Okay.

Oh, you're right.

No, you are right.

It is Daytona.

But the second race, well, the first one I fell out of the seat, it was like super hot.

Couldn't hear me.

So it didn't matter.

I mean, I was doing my best coaching.

No, Dover was the first oval we did.

And it was during COVID and it was the most alone I've ever felt.

Second, like third ever truck race and my radio doesn't work and you legitimately spotted

nobody with nobody in the stands.

So you spotted nobody.

That's what they pay me to do.

And then I was running around in a circle all by myself.

Couldn't hear anybody.

Did a green-flip and stop by myself and there was nobody in the stands.

Loneliness I've ever felt in my life.

But poor guy.

Yeah.

So that was how our little marriage here started.

And then that was our truck starts.

And then on the cup side, when you were with Harris-Oberton with the 21 team and then I

love putting you in awkward situations.

And so I wrecked your car, wrecked the hell out of you.

Well, the day before I was going to tell him that I was making a change.

Yeah.

So I wrecked the hell out of the 21 car and then Monday you walk in to...

And tell him I'm out.

Yeah.

Sorry, Ty.

Way to go.

So I'm great at putting you in awkward spots.

But I think you've grown with it.

Yes.

At a while you were a lot more on me about it.

Now you just kind of par for the course.

I think you secretly enjoy it now.

Yeah, of course.

How was your experience on the Naval base?

Like spotting, how, you know, rolling around on the bus, the whole thing?

I enjoyed it.

Family was military, grandparents were military.

So I've always been interested in the military stuff.

So like the history of it was super cool for me.

Like all the barracks and all the old buildings and stuff like that.

I didn't get to see much of that, which I'm sure you did.

So I'd like to hear your insight on all that.

But just the history of it being on the Naval base was super cool for me.

Yeah, it was cool.

So one of the guys, they had like a, I'm going to completely botch.

Kind of a segment was of the military or Navy or whatever was sponsoring like a car or was

like directed to our car to kind of give everybody somebody to root for.

And so I had Sear and the guy that was like, you know, that was like walking across the

stage with me and everything.

He was a race fan and he like plays eye racing and does everything.

And like he was like super cool and everything.

So that was fun.

Yeah.

The only thing I was disappointed was that like, cause I got to go way early when it

was like a Naval base and everything.

Yeah.

Was that the I bar wasn't open.

So you could have seen that.

Like, yeah, it was, that would have been cool.

But that's when you shot those videos.

That's what we shot a lot of those videos in the bar and everything.

It was open Sunday night.

I know.

You Travis.

Too soon.

Yeah.

Thanks to Travis.

Thanks to get to that really early in the show.

So that guy gave you the mail truck.

Yeah.

Same guy in the picture.

Yeah.

He gave me the little mail truck.

That's cool.

Yeah.

So he, we did all that and everything.

And then yeah, it was super cool.

What was the spotting like?

How much running did you do?

Well, so I'm a runner by trait, but for some reason when I don't have to run, I don't run.

So I had an extra up there.

I was one of the few that did not run across the roof.

I'm pretty sure someone started their Strava and got about a half mile in before the middle

of the race.

So there was a lot of running back and forth, but fortunately we had enough people to go

on the other side for me.

So I didn't have to run back and forth.

So the, so for the people that don't know, like you guys are on a building right at the

chicane, the last chicane and everything, but there was stuff blocking or the building

itself was blocking.

Cause you can only see half the track from one side of the building and then the other

half from the other side.

Yeah.

The building was, was big enough and there wasn't enough room on the corner where there

was a wall to see both sides.

So you either had to run from one side to the other in the corner.

So you run from here to here.

But you also miss half the things as you're running through and half of them are out of

breath, sucking wind, right?

So I did not choose to do that.

I chose to have another person up there, which was fortunate enough.

So yeah, you couldn't see both sides, almost like a Pagoda at any, you had two guys, same,

same three.

And the reason why I wanted someone else up there was I was doing Justin Marks in the

truck.

He ends up wrecking out of 15.

I didn't have anyone over there and he's like, it's junk.

And I'm like, well, this is not good.

And all of a sudden I see a puff of smoke coming out and I'm like, well, I guess he

crashed and the guy beside me didn't have anyone on the other side and he about KO'd

him.

So I was like, okay, hang on.

The safety thing, we need two people up here and not have to worry about that area if it's

going to be an issue.

How did it compare to like spotting at like Chicago, like up for street courses?

Um, similar, similar.

I mean, you only have your one spot that you can talk and it's funny.

The, the spots that I had to talk were super limited and with you and I spot for Sammy on

the rally side, there's, it's, it's already chaos, right?

And you're hitting bumps and, and swat and flies and I'm in there just trying to talk

to you, trying to help you with, with lines and placement and stuff like that.

And, um, you know, it's, it's a lot going on.

So you have a limited time to talk and it's already rough and you're already hanging on

for dear life.

And you're catching us in where you were at, in 15 out of 15, out of 15

into the chicane.

They don't count as corners 16 one, which is the most chaotic.

Yes.

Of the weekend.

So literally I would talk to you out of the chicane, get off the radio for you to hit

the bump and then get back on the radio, talk to you for a second and then get off the

radio for the bumps.

I never realized what you're doing.

I appreciate that.

Yeah, you're welcome.

Cause I needed that.

And every time I hit that bump, I was nervous.

I learned my lesson.

So, Saturdays for Sammy is usually calm, you know, collected and Sundays is usually a little

more chaotic on the radio, you know, a little more amplified.

And Saturday, uh, supposedly someone took too much caffeinated gum and got excited.

And, uh, Sammy was like, man, you can't talk to me right there.

I got to focus.

I'm like, okay, well, I learned my lesson.

I'm not talking to here anymore.

And on Sunday, I'm doing the same thing.

That's perfect.

Yes.

Thanks Sammy for, um, you know, doing that for me.

But no, that was, uh, it was a fun experience.

Like it was cool.

I, I, everything getting to the track was by far cool.

Like I had the bike, the bicycle that, uh, I got tired of walking.

So I door dashed.

I got tired of trying to find place to park.

So I door dashed it.

You can tell the door.

Well, I put the wrong address.

I was, you know, like C app and it came up on door dashed Coronado app.

And I was like, ah, that's the same thing.

It's got to be the same thing.

Got to be the same thing.

And then I see the picture.

I was like, not the same thing.

So you know, there's like a family playing outside and everything.

So I roll up to do this walk away.

And you know, I was like, all right, you know, you know, I could leave, leave a, hopefully

a lifelong lasting impression here.

And so I, yeah.

So I, I, I kind of like look around.

I huffed that bike up, you know, pick it up like this, uh, you know, up to, you know,

into my armpit, pick it up.

And I just full sprint past like a family of three.

So if anybody has a video of this on your doorbell camera, please send it in.

Yeah.

I wish I really was hoping there was a ring camera.

I was going to like press it just and just, yeah, I was just wanting that like, uh, you

know, just imagining of like, honey, I think somebody stole our bike and, and then they're

like confused.

They're like, I didn't order a bike.

Did you have a legendary shorts on?

Yeah.

I had the whole shebang.

Perfect.

Hold the shit.

That's good.

I would, I, that's why I left the racetrack.

So I left the racetrack in practice.

So it was like, yeah, fifth in practice, you know, NASCAR driver, you know, wanted

for bike theft of his own bike.

Yeah.

So, um, but I thought it was super cool.

Uh, I felt like on the, so there was one thing I really was like disappointed of

was like, we never, they didn't drive, um, put the track to drive through a hanger.

Yeah.

It like, cause when that by the water, the six and seven, when we turn left and you

kind of come around the hanger, it would have been so cool if we turned in earlier

and went through one of those old hangers.

Yeah.

But part of me thought like when I rewatched it on TV, like part of me didn't

really like realize the expectation of everything.

It was like mind blowing of.

I felt like I was over expecting like the visuals to be like insane, like

with all the colors and everything.

And then I realized like, man, like runways are not great asphalt to look at

or concrete to look at the, you know, the buildings are

tan and the ships are gray.

It's like, damn, like I wish you, cause like you go to like Chicago and like

that one shot of it going over the hill and like with the train moving in the,

like you watch it, people like live their life.

It just, the military base looked like, I want to say like deserted, but it looked

up like we took it over, you know what I mean?

Like where in the street course at like Chicago, it looked like exactly, you know,

you can see life moving on.

Like it's, and I was like, dang, like I wish we got to see a little bit more of

that or like more planes, like closer to the deal.

But I was like, I get, they can't, you know, they can't just take planes

that are inactive, you know, military deal and just be like, ah, we're just

going to set these aside and make them be like props.

It would be cool if we could go buy more buildings.

Yeah.

You're talking about like split the, split the barracks or split the hangers or,

if we could have went through a hanger, that would have been so cool.

Like they could have like a camera on top of it.

Or even between them, right?

Like if you have sets of hangers, that would have been cool.

Like something like that.

That would have been cool.

But like, I just think I would, my expectations were like building up for

two years on like what the visuals of it in Chicago, being really good.

Like everything, everything on like in person was like awesome.

And like, I love running that track and like everything, but I feel like

Chicago took like an eye, like if they were going to win one category, one,

the eye candy test of like the visuals, the colors and everything on TV.

Was there more when you visited the base the first time, was there more stuff there?

Like did they take more stuff off the base or locate it?

Yeah.

There was a, there was a lot more aircraft and stuff.

Aircraft and stuff.

Like, like, you know, I even think the Navy, when we were talking to them,

they were like, Oh yeah, there's going to be a line of like 10 helicopters,

like right on, like right on side.

So that, that was probably the reason my expectations were so high.

Cause I think they're, they were expecting the same thing.

They were expecting the same thing of they were like, yeah, you're going to go

down a straight away and there's going to be Apache, you know, helicopters on

this side and there's going to be Navy jets on this side.

And, you know, there's going to be massive carriers and everything.

And it's just like, oh, that's going to be unbelievable.

And then it's just like, oh, you know, there's two aircraft carriers.

And yeah, I was like, ah, well, it's cool.

Turn three was super cool though.

That was super cool.

That was cool.

But then it was like, you know, the other half it's like, damn, I wanted that the whole track.

Yeah.

But yeah, greedy, as always.

But, um, the O'Reilly race, the fan jumped the race track.

That was funny.

It was.

I didn't see it at first.

Sammy came over the radio.

Um, we were involved a little bit in that crash.

Sammy come over the radio and he's like, Hey man, there's a fan that just jumped the

fence and I'm like, have him check the damage.

And obviously Sheldon thought the same thing.

Right.

Yeah.

So that was, that was interesting.

I mean, I, I applaud the guy for, you know, he was probably, uh, probably.

The flip flops were, well, no, the flip flops were impressive.

But being, being a little, uh, little under the weather, you know, with all the

alcohol beverages, probably, um, the, the flip flops and now I'm only losing one

and grabbing it back.

It was, it was impressive.

It was, it was a very impressive run at it.

Uh, lack of execution on the escape part of it, like, or the, um, you know, get out

of jail plan of basically of, you know, just putting his phone up to next to his,

you know, face, the second he sees cops and just like, Oh,

I'm just on the phone.

You know, I don't, man, did you see that?

We'll see what I did.

But at the same time, I mean, if, what are you going to do run?

Like, no, but you got at least take your shirt or like, you know, take the shirt

off, put a bandana on, you know, just change the sunglasses on.

Do you think the girl that was by the fence was like the girlfriend?

So I never saw the girl.

I never saw the girl.

Like, did she say something?

No, but so I'll pull up a tweet from, uh, he definitely wasn't alone.

He definitely wasn't.

She walks off like a mad spouse.

I think she turned when he was in handcuffs and they said something to her.

Okay.

So we're watching him jump back over the fence with flip flops.

Oh, yeah.

No, the fact he just like, basically bunny hops the second fence is unbelievable.

Loses it.

Grab the flip flop.

Yep.

He's like, I got it.

Hopps over the fence.

Oh yeah.

She's walking.

She knows the girl walking right.

Yeah.

She knows.

Yeah.

She's just like, yeah, that's, that's impressive.

She's got to be related, but like smart on her not to talk to him.

Just be like, all right, now we're rolling.

Now we're out.

You know, go to a different spot.

I mean, they could at least like changed hats or, you know, exchange hats or something.

Like, because he was wearing flip flops and because of the way they acted after,

there was no way it was like premeditated.

Right.

Like he didn't go to the racetrack saying, I'm going to do this.

It had to be a spur of the moment.

No, no, no.

You had to be like a plant like NASCAR had that plan.

No, no, not NASCAR, but I mean, you know, if you're there's no way, there's no way

Sandy A got raced before.

That's what it was.

A friend said, text him $500.

Yeah.

Oh, it was a, oh, okay.

I thought you were saying like pre race, like they're doing.

No, no, like, I'm going to go to the race and do this.

No, I think it was more like, if anything, it was like, hey, you know, like

tapping him on the shoulder during the red of like, Hey, I'm bored.

You know, bet you won't do that.

Bet you won't do that.

Well, it's impressive.

Yeah, I bet you he did that.

I wonder what the, his bail was higher than a normal race.

It was kind of be on the side of like Super Bowl, right?

Like like, like, is it like similar charge, similar shebang?

It's not a, it's not just a sporting event.

He jumped the fence at a Navy base.

One more wall he would have been at a hangar with airplanes.

Yeah.

Cause we honestly, when the red flag was out in O'Reilly, didn't have to worry

about in the cup race, cause you didn't have any damage, but in the O'Reilly

race, there was a few of us that thought about trying to walk over there because

it was just just concrete and opportunity in between.

To go like see the damage and stuff.

And we're like, yeah, they go see the damage.

And they're just like, if there wasn't planes there, maybe, but I mean, that

guy broke into a naval base, basically.

Well, he didn't break into the naval base.

He was already on the naval base.

He just went into a trust passing area for fans.

He was going into the area that wasn't for fans.

Well, right.

Yeah.

Right.

No, that, that is true.

Yeah.

It's probably worse.

I would have done it.

No, I don't think I would have done it either.

But yeah, I don't know what got me to, yeah, respect.

Honestly, do they, do you think they ever caught that guy from Watkins Glen?

I think they ever caught him.

Probably.

But they probably just, like, I never, no, I know the rich big guy got.

In trouble.

Like, please don't do that again.

Yeah.

Why is that they're just happy to have something to put in the commercials?

Like, for that place, you know, other than the crash of like Sam Hornage hitting

the tire, you know, the, the bundle or Michael McDowell bouncing off that and

Jeff Gordon and all them, like, oh, the, no, it's Jeff Gordon crash.

Yeah.

Other than those two clips, they just got the, you know, the race fan.

They probably promoted them.

If I think they probably give them tickets for life.

I got that.

Probably.

This guy too.

Seriously.

Yeah.

Um, all right.

Well, in the cup race, you had Austin Hill, SVG, Zillich crash.

Who is at fault, Tyler?

I felt like that front row was eager.

You don't want to say names, but you get like, who, like, is it like, but

all right, SVG, the cause or no?

Cause I don't see where people are saying SVG created this wreck to happen.

I feel like they both drive, drove in the corner too deep.

Austin Hill got a little bit out of line, didn't wrap the bottom close enough.

Marbles and they both hit the fence.

I don't even know if, if Zillich would have made the corner if Austin didn't.

So what I noticed, cause like, you know, when I was on the front row, there

was a ton of marbles, especially outside turn one.

Um, but also too, like you were picking up marbles the whole time.

So if you didn't have your fronts cleaned, you were probably going to go in

the corner and shove and then you're going to pick up marbles and you're

going to shove even more.

But I felt like the wreck looked bigger because obviously SVG was there.

And so when they went to like hit the wall and bounce off, he was just there.

And he's, you know, he just kind of like kept them there.

So they just made the heart even harder.

But I was like, you know, people want to like start blaming on Twitter or

whatever, or like even like people in the industry was like, ah, SVG could have

lifted.

I was like, he had nothing to do with it.

Like he's, he's set up for like, he lifted early and was it the reason he was

in the throttle and they weren't was because they were going to hit the wall.

He lifted early knowing, oh, these guys overdrove.

All right, let me lift the point for the corner.

Turn one is deceiving because after that you were on the front row and I went back

to look, okay, how hard can we drive in the corner?

Because you don't think you're going that fast because it's restart and the

restart zone is right before you're pretty much going the same, but you are

going the same speed and that's, you know, why I really don't drive in any deeper

than you were because that I feel like that's what they did.

They just overdrove thinking they're not going that fast because the restart

zones right out of the last corner and just missed it.

Yeah.

I mean, I was happy about it.

I was going to say, when that happens, you're just like, all right.

So I remember, I wish I said something because now I'm like spinning unicorn.

No.

Yes.

Yeah.

Poor Michael, but I wish I said something on the radio before the restart because

I was thinking, I was like, I was remembering the O'Reilly race, like, you know,

just feel kind of flip people on old tires and everything.

I was like, you know, I forget who, who they're like, oh, you just can be like

LeBron and predict everything, you know, whatever.

And I was like, I literally thought I was like, man, like, yeah, it was a good shot.

They, you know, they pile drive in here.

I'm going to back it down and lift it everything.

And all I remember is seeing just everybody far left, like the whole, most

of the fields like far left.

And I was like, I don't think they're making this.

And, you know, and there's no spotters or anything.

So like, I kind of like round turn one and it wasn't even like a shock.

Like, you know, Jeff was just like, wait a minute, stay cool.

And I was like, bro, I was cool.

Like I just kind of was just like coming around.

Yeah, they did wreck.

And then just like pointed right through the middle.

You do have intuition.

And I, even as spotters, like you feel like there's, and there's

intensification, like going into a restart or something and something's not right.

And a lot of times you pick numbers out like Atlanta that one year.

You said, okay, I'm going to wait till 43 to go.

And they're like, I'm going to wait a little bit.

And then you said 37 and then erect on 30 and then wrecked was 37.

Perfect.

Yeah.

So it is funny.

I'm so happy that that works out more often than not for me.

Yeah, that's good.

It's so, it's so common.

It seems like, uh, no, it was fun.

It is funny.

Who'd you have again?

Oh yeah, you had Justin in the truck race.

Yeah.

Oh, poor guy.

Yeah.

Roughly.

I saw, I saw him.

And, um, I saw him after the race.

I was talking to Tyler Rife.

He obviously had a shot to win 42 car and everything.

So like I, I got over there.

Uh, I was leaving the track and, uh, the restart was happening.

So as I was leaving the track, how it kind of goes is like, as you're leaving the

military base, you're going downhill to turn two.

And I was like, man, I'm going to stop and see like what happens here.

And, you know, if it gets interesting.

So I went, I went and like, I kind of like almost luckily, like the cops looked at

me and was just like, I don't know, whatever it's two to go, whatever he wants to do.

Uh, but like, I was like outside the fence.

There was like a big box.

I just started staying on the box, like recording or like, you know, showing my

buddies, like I was like, we're on FaceTime and everything.

And I was like, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to stay and watch.

Well, then all of a sudden the 42 like is up front.

And I was like, well, Dan, now I'm going to have to fight all the way back in,

try to figure out how to get in this base and, you know, get in the racetrack and

everything.

And cause I was going to be really excited if they won and everything with Al and,

and, you know, Al being a Marine and he, he's been there.

I didn't know he, you know, gone through Coronado at some point and been there.

Yeah.

Um, and I thought he hit the inside wall the whole time until I talked to Tyler.

And he said he locked up.

Yeah.

Unfortunately.

Missed it.

He was so nervous thinking Lane was going to spin him.

Yeah.

And I was like, man, they probably wouldn't spin you in that.

I don't think, like, I think you're going too slow in that, that chicane.

Yeah.

I think you'll, I don't think you'll get spin.

I think you'll just get moved.

And then I texted him after some day, I was like, yeah, I was wrong.

Let's you're in a cup car.

But, but in that, in that situation, like being that, that's the first time he's

led right coming to the checkers.

First time I think he's led ever.

You get anxious and overdrive, but the, as, as a veteran, you want to just slow

down and make him move you.

Correct?

Yes.

100%.

That's why I was telling him, I was like, let him make the choice of wanting to

move you or not.

Make him the bad guy.

Yeah.

You know, so.

Yeah.

Like if you, you're, you're 51, 49, um, like risk, you know, trying to balance

these decisions and you lower your percentage of chance to win if you just

take yourself out of it.

Yeah.

For sure.

By far.

But like even two of like Lane moved him, you know, and you're side by side, then

you could just now be the bad guy and, you know, just turn it right and start

doing him or at least drag race and do the whole thing.

Yeah.

But, but kudos for him for being there.

But I was talking to Justin after and Tyler's like, aha, you know, I, you know,

I need to win to get more opportunities.

And so like, you know, just to kind of make the point, Justin was walking by

and I was like, just, yeah, funny.

He's like, man, I ran into everything.

He's like, I was hoping just to finish or was hoping to just do it.

And he's like, I hit everything.

I wrecked the hell out of this truck.

He had multiple times.

And so I'm talking to him and I'm like, I was like, Hey man, have you, have you

met Tyler and he's, you know, or Tyler was just like, you know, said something.

He's just like, Oh, you could have done what I did.

And Justin's like, I don't know who the hell you are.

Like, I don't know what you did.

And he's like, Oh, it was hilarious.

Tyler goes, I'm Tyler.

I was winning the race.

Yeah.

And he's like, Oh, okay.

Well, very nice to meet you.

And, you know, he's just like, well, you know, you did a lot better than me.

And this and that.

And so we started talking and everything.

And Justin left and I was like, well, there you go.

You met a cup owner after, you know, throwing away a truck win.

Congrats.

You know, you've made it.

I was like a 42 thrown away, plenty of wins, pal.

But no, I was, I thought he did a really good job.

It was cool to see that truck up front though.

It was very cool.

I was, I was super pumped.

I was like, man, this is best 40.

Yeah.

No disrespect to anybody else that's been in it.

But I was like, man, like it was awesome to see that thing up front.

It was because, you know, they obviously put like Ross in the 45 and he runs good.

But like, they got so many new people over there and everything.

But, um, that was cool.

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Cup race.

Yeah, we were fast, which was fun for me.

Was it, was that's gotta be like the most fun road course spotting you've done

in a long time, right?

Yeah.

It's always fun when you're running good.

Yeah.

You know, everybody's, everybody's cutting jokes, you know, having a good time.

Yeah.

It was fun.

It reminded me of like a, you know, our normal races, honestly.

Yeah.

Like it just felt right at home.

Right at home.

Yeah.

But no, it was fun.

Were you, were you on the side where you could see when I got spun in the

she-gain?

Yeah.

You could see that.

Yeah.

I thought so.

Yep.

I was there.

I witnessed it.

Did you run to the other side?

So you didn't have to, did you?

I think I was completely fine.

Like I, I, I was just disappointed that I didn't get refired quick enough and

everything.

Um, cause the, when it, when I rolled back to get out of the way, to get out of

the way, I roll, I kind of like let off the break to kind of get out of the way

but also to like, to kind of like position myself to like take off, retake off.

Well, the, I think the motor spun backwards.

So it was just backfired in the whole time.

Could get it refired.

Yeah.

I was like, oh, damn it.

Uh, I was like, damn it.

I should have just stayed in the way now and hope for a black track.

Like, uh, pusher did that one time.

Yeah.

I did, I never even got a shot to see that until way after the race.

I didn't even realize that.

Yeah.

Um, but I thought that was, you just saw a whole gaggle of cars in front of you.

So, because you were, you were probably, I was five seconds behind.

I was, I was well behind cause we, you know, we just pitted and we had the

spotters could only see the exit of that corner.

Yeah.

And all of a sudden I heard wrecking, wrecking and it was hilarious.

It was so funny.

I started dying laughing because you could tell that everybody in the front, um, or

everybody like around me was getting the same information, but just at different

times.

So you had like one guy like a hand out the window, like waving another guy kind

of going and like everybody's just stopping on entry.

We haven't even seen the crash.

Cause the drivers don't know if someone's upside down.

We have no idea.

Yeah.

We have no idea.

Just wrecking.

Just wrecking, wrecking, maybe track block, you know, like they were basically

saying stop.

Definitely hard.

And so everybody just starts slowing down.

Well, then like, cause obviously like not the best spotters are in that corner.

Right.

Like, you know, not like, or even not.

They're there to call wreck or not.

They're literally just there to call wreck, not inside, outside, just literally

just wreck.

That's the whole job in that corner.

And it was hilarious.

Cause he didn't know what to say.

Phillip Smalley was in that corner.

He goes, wrecking.

Go.

And so I was like, okay.

And so I started going.

Well, then like some others, like, so everybody started going like randomly

throughout the corner.

And then once everybody saw it, then everybody went.

And so that's why like,

then they were on top of each other, all five wide, like on top of each other,

because everybody got told different information.

Yeah.

And like some people could see it.

So they're like, oh, I'm going to stop.

Some people couldn't.

Some people couldn't like it was.

So they're on the bus, right?

Yeah, they're on that bus.

Then they're going, they're going away from the bus.

So no one can see really what's going on.

Well, also too, with all the cars come around the corner, if Bush or Spahn in

front of all these cars that are coming around the corner, Bush or is blocked.

So they don't see sideways or they don't know what he's doing.

Yeah.

So no, that was really funny.

But, and, and to that fact, talking about spotting there, we had six total spotters.

Some guys had four.

That's, we went with four added more.

One of your friends, Phillip, you know, Greg and Sean also helped us.

Dawson was on the roof with me.

Like having good guys up there makes my life a lot easier, especially because on,

you know, normal weekend, I get to talk the whole time, right?

And see everything.

And I don't have to give control to anyone.

So having a good quality group like we had was, was very beneficial.

Yeah.

Did you see, did you see Noah and Kevin Magnuson?

I did.

Awesome.

Yeah.

I would have died if, if, if the picture of John Gerard and Ricky Bobby and

Magnuson and Noah is hilarious.

And then Brisco said, I cried laughing at the, I play for keeps.

If Noah said that, I would have, there would have been all time.

It would have been in every commercial of all time.

It would have been in every commercial.

I would have bought a no shirt after that.

How many times did he asking why he wrecked him?

I think he still asked like when he got out.

No, no, no.

When he got, uh, no, but when he got interviewed well after the interview,

he was still asking why, why, like why.

I wish Kevin would have said just cause, just basically did.

Yeah.

He basically did.

Cause you're an idiot.

Yeah.

But you know, F off.

Yeah.

Like he basically did.

And like, um, yeah, I don't, I, I never really.

So like I, I, you have you seen the, like when they're running into each other.

I went back and watched it last night to see like, was there more started?

That is what started it.

That cannot, there's no way that started.

So Kevin must have been watching you at mile and a half's and was making

all this time up on entry.

Okay.

Right.

Fair.

Um, so that is what started it.

Kevin was doing a great job of, you know, just out breaking people and jumping out

of line.

Well, I mean, that's the only way you pass like F one and so that's exactly what

he was doing.

Um, he did it to multiple people.

And then when he got to Noah, he tried to do the same thing, but Noah saw it coming.

So he was already protecting it.

Yeah.

But like what turn is that?

What turn?

No, no, no, no.

No, the one before the original of the first turn, the first turn where they ran

into each other, 12, 12.

Yeah.

So 12 C or F or whatever they want to call it.

But like Noah stopped like really early, right?

It looked like he break checked him.

It, that's why I like, I, there's no way that didn't, there's, there's gotta

be something from before I, I, I watched well for that.

And that's the first thing that I saw.

Then, then Noah has played a lot of F one video games and he is

hissed at Kevin Magnusson.

Yeah.

And from, you know, career mode.

Yeah.

Um,

maybe so.

I, that's, to me, that's what started it.

He was protecting the spot and he knew that he was going to drive in deep

because he just stayed over there.

Like he didn't even try and make the corner at the four.

Didn't even try to make any arc.

So he stayed over there, got hit.

I mean, we all, we're all, we're doing that.

Like we're all like protecting it, but also to like hit or miss.

If you have a spotter over there.

So like you can kind of like play ball a little bit there.

Like,

But honestly, if, if he didn't have his head back, he's probably seeing stars

with how hard he hit it.

Oh, for sure.

You know?

Yeah.

So he might not have been in his right mind the whole time after that, but how

hard it got hit.

I mean, the defensive driving from Noah was pretty impressive for a while.

And then they, then the same lap into turn two, Kevin kind of swiped him and got

him a little free again, let him go.

And then Noah gave him the finger and then they started playing a little

bumper tag after that.

I think Noah might have hit him four times and then Kevin hit him three times.

The third time was the knockout.

So the thing is though.

Like if you're spotting for Noah in that situation, are you not telling him like,

Hey, this guy has nothing to lose.

He's only here once.

He's not like, are you not like if that's if I'm Noah, are you not saying that?

Team de-escalation.

Yeah.

De-escalate.

Yeah.

You guys do enough of escalating your, your emotions, de-escalate on the radio as

much as we can.

Yeah.

Cause there, cause like I would say like a lot of people like saying like how Noah

like, like what do you, what do you do to like get him back?

Like, well, he hit him the first time, got him the second time.

The finger came out.

Noah, Noah, Kevin out-braked him in the chicane and then Noah popped him.

Um, and Noah popped him good enough to almost knock him in the fence.

And I think at that point it's like, okay, it's, it's over.

Like I feel like, I feel like the only reason this is a massive, like I say massive

deal, but like a bigger deal than it is, is because Kevin's not, well, yeah,

cause Kevin's not racing next week.

He just like, he might not rent a cup car ever again.

Yeah.

You know, like, so I think that's probably the biggest thing.

Cause otherwise it would just be like, we've seen this stuff before.

Like it's normal like road course.

I'm mad at you.

All right.

Well, you're not getting by me.

This is when Noah gets him back right here.

Yeah.

He, yeah, we're going to the chicane and then I think at that point it's like, okay,

you game on.

Yeah.

Game on.

You junked him or he, or yeah, he got him back loose.

Yeah.

The whole shebang.

Yeah.

That, that, but I feel like it's, it's way blown out just because of like,

cause like going to Sonoma just be like, okay, you know, either, you know,

if Kevin Magnuson was a full-time guy, it was be like, okay, Magnuson's either

pointing him by next week or he's getting spun.

Yeah.

Um, yeah.

But yeah, it was entertaining.

I was very entertained.

Yeah.

I mean, needed a fight.

So, well, so no, I was rolling down pit road.

You know, I have all my stuff off and, um, hang on.

Well, I'll get, I'll get back to that.

Go ahead.

Well, I saw a rolling down pit road and I look and Noah is like this.

Like, you know, like, cause he's out.

He's just waiting on it in street clothes, watching everybody roll on pit road.

And like, I know I'm like the second to last car on, on a pit road.

And I'm like, like, first of all, I was like checking myself.

Did I do something to the four?

I haven't seen the four all day.

Okay.

Is it bad?

Do you have to ask?

And then I'll.

Off time.

Um, but I'm just like, all right, no, I'm good.

Okay.

Did I ever see the four wrecked?

I mean, clearly he didn't finish.

Yeah.

Okay.

Uh, all right.

He's waiting on somebody for 40 laps, 40 ish slaps.

I think that rec lap happened around like 32 ish.

It did.

Yeah.

It was early.

Oh, damn.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Stage 22 to go.

Yeah.

So 38.

Yeah.

Was that a caution?

It was.

That was one.

That's the one that ended the second stage.

Ended the second stage.

Okay.

Well, so that's the thing.

So like most of the time, like I pretty much can know, like I've

watched the jumbo trunks while I race and no TV's to watch caution,

like no TVs to watch, nothing to do, uh, none of that.

Um, and a lot of times the cautious were like self cleaning everything.

Clears just calling me now.

Hold on.

Hello.

Brother, are you talking about right now?

Uh, you're on the air right now because like I'm, we're recording right now.

Oh, well, that's even better.

Yeah.

Or do I need to call envy the link?

Oh, hit the link.

They're, they're, they're saying hit, hit the link so they could get, you know,

they, they want to be able to put you in the thumbnail.

All right.

So, I'm coming.

All right.

Pause.

What a guy.

Well, so he calls me on every podcast that he like does and everything.

And guess appearances.

So he called me, well, he does his podcast at like seven AM.

So like Dale does his like 88 30, maybe it's a dad.

Cleetus does it at like seven and whatever.

And so legitimately the Monday after towel day, he calls me and he's like,

I don't know why you didn't answer.

Like, bro, I'm like, I'm in bed.

Uh, so then the next week drivers, that's why.

Well, I know, I know, but like, so the next week he calls me and like, it wakes me up.

But like, I was, I look over and he's like, you know, I was like, Cleetus

McFarland calling and I was like, I didn't answer last week.

I got to answer.

So I swipe and I go, I go, man, he's just like, what are you doing?

I was like, uh, uh, I'm up, man.

Or he's like, you up, I'm up.

What are you doing?

And I like do this with my eyes.

Like as I'm waking up, I look around and I'm like, what am I doing?

I don't know.

I'm just up and I died laughing going back.

But like, I a hundred percent just woke up.

I had no idea.

I had no idea that I was in a daze.

Cleetus, do you hear us?

Yeah, I, I got you.

You got me?

Yeah, I got you.

Well, so you call me all the time on the podcast and I'm here.

Uh, I got Tyler Green.

He's filling in for TJ majors.

I'm Dale, Dale, Jr.

This week.

I just figured I would call you.

Uh, did you watch San Diego?

Absolutely.

What, what do you think of the street courses?

Would you be able to put, would you be better at drifting around the street

courses or driving a NASCAR around it?

Brother, I think I do good at a street course.

You know, it's a little more my style.

Like all these guys have perfected turning left.

So I think I'd have a little bit more even.

So I weirdly enough feel like I'm way better at the street courses than I am.

The road, regular road courses, because I have defined limitations of where I got to go.

Yeah.

You can only go to the outside wall on the inside wall.

Uh huh.

I mean, I just feel like it's more basic.

Plus chaos.

Let's go.

I'm in chaos.

Yeah.

I mean, well, you're just, you're a natural winner.

You know, your Carson freaking host of bars.

So obviously, you know, that makes a lot of sense, but I do agree.

And you know, I started out in road course racing versus, you know, this

turn left in an oval situation turns out way more complicated than it looks.

So I like the idea of just here's, here's where you got to go.

And I'm, I can hit an apex, you know, I can't necessarily run the

groove in the perfect spot.

I tell you what, there's less pit stops in, in road

course racing, less, less green flag entries for you.

That could be very helpful in my case.

Yeah.

I'm saying that's so good.

Uh, uh, that's pretty much all I had for you brother.

Uh, what's next year?

We'll find out.

What's the next race for you?

Caledega, you know our track, our spot.

I'll be at Dega in the nice truck.

Oh yeah.

There you go.

Nice truck.

It almost had a shot to win that.

I know.

I was pumped too.

It's looking good.

All right, brother.

Well, thanks for jumping on real quick.

Uh, that's all I had for you brother.

But you have a great, appreciate.

I had to keep up a great work.

Thank you.

He being a winner.

I'm going to try.

I'm going to keep it up.

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The Heim Reddick deal.

Yeah.

So I never really saw it.

So like they were saying that Reddick basically like accidentally ran into Heim and then he just pulled over.

Is that what happened?

So Heim out broke him into two.

Okay.

It's by him.

I don't think they ever touched when Heim passed him.

Okay.

So they go through three.

Four.

Little touch there.

That's fine.

Little crossover.

So they roll.

They roll through.

Crosses him over.

Through to this is five.

Going into five.

Yep.

Outbreak scene.

Gets loose.

Little free.

He moves up a little bit.

Not much.

I don't know.

Barely taps.

He just stops.

Supposedly.

Yeah.

I mean he's definitely slow.

I don't know how much.

I mean like I like I get it 100%.

Like I understand the you know, I mean maybe I'm not you know, the perfect you know, cleanliness driver to you know, put my opinion on.

This but from this, I'm thinking from like the fan perspective.

If you are a race fan, does this not devalue how much the drivers want to win?

Yes.

Like thank you.

It was especially to it is different.

So I, one of my friends made a good point.

They, it was, it would be different if Redick was the guy running him down, right?

The faster car running him down, got to him and moved him.

And moved him by accident and was like, Oh, I want to do it right.

Yep.

Not the guy holding on like probably like that he had him.

He clearly felt like he had to make that move to crossover to hold him up.

Like pretty much you watch Heim get back out in front.

Redick gives him six car lengths.

You pretty much turn your T off or you know like, Oh, it's over.

Yeah.

Or if you're the guys on the 45, like you obviously be happy for the 67.

But also to you are the 45.

You're racing for points.

And thank you.

You're a regular season champ.

Like, and you are door to door with him.

It's not like you just punting him in the back bumper.

You didn't like spin him out and you know, like if he spun him out, like half spun him

and like waited on him a little bit, but stayed in front of him.

I'd be like, All right, little respect there.

All right, whatever.

But like you gave him six car lengths.

You're slower than him.

And she gave up any shot at the win.

You you're racing for the regular season championship and to the contact.

Did it blow his tire?

I don't know when the tire went.

But so he basically, but it was a left front that blew.

It was the left front.

So it should.

So he could have ran over something right here.

But with how I might have hit the wall potentially.

But yeah, but still like from the I feel like NASCAR struggles from the

prestige side, the credibility side, you know, this is a massive race, right?

Like, you know, call it a one and done crown jewelish.

Should be.

Yeah.

Um, like, like, you know, just brag your rights a little bit, but regular, throw

the regular season points on the lot out, out the window.

You pretty much showed of like, ah, winning is not that important to the fan

perspective, like the fan perspective would go, well, what the, like, if I was a fan,

I'd be like, what the f***?

Like I'm, I think winning the right way is the best way.

But I don't think when you're, when you're door to door with someone and I mean,

Redick was going to make the corner.

It wasn't like he just ran in there and blasted him when you're side by side.

I mean, he made an aggressive move and not lose him, but at least they

had a side with him.

Yeah, at least.

But they, I don't think Redick clears him.

Like, even if he did like some of a normal corner, I think Corey still would have

been there and have a decision about broke him.

And then you race or two, maybe you like, at least if you're going to let him go,

let him go in like a next corner to like make it look better for TV standards.

Or your owner is Michael Jordan.

You think like he's going to give the imagine, imagine Michael like doing a dirty block

and they go, getting the ball and be like, ah, I didn't mean to do that.

Hold on.

Or try again.

Or like, hold on.

Here you go.

Here's the ball.

If you had the ball broke the guys ankles and knocked him down, but no, it's the commercial.

The time out.

No, no, no.

I touched the ball, coach.

Oh, yeah.

I touched the ball.

Damn it.

I was just a championship game.

No, good sportsmanship.

You know, pass it on.

Like, dude, that's what it is.

Yeah, I hate that.

I don't like it.

No, no, well, just it's just, it's just messed.

I don't, I don't know.

Like I, if you're a team owner, sure.

Like, you know, because, you know, obviously, you know, you don't want your, your, your

cars running into each other, you know, the whole deal.

I feel like racing for the win in this scenario and everything, you know, that

reddit kind of has on the line of it's just, it's just so devaluing of like the

sport, everything, and that that's now the narrative.

Like you could have this awesome battle for the win that Heim does, but now it's

just like, well, reddit, let him go.

Yeah.

And that's cool.

I mean, you're going to have two different guys.

You're going to have the old school guys that say, respect 100% don't touch

each other, be respectful, win at the clean way.

Then you have the new generation that everyone talks about that, you know,

puts people in bad situations, does things to win races.

And I think there's a boxy plan, right?

You have the respect to not just run over someone, but you also have to

position yourself to take advantage of people.

And he positioned himself to take advantage of him by outbreaking him

door to door.

I don't think you necessarily let him go like he did, but at least let him

gather it up and stay close to each other.

It just very much felt like when you're on eye racing and or anything and you're

racing with your buddies and you accidentally spin your buddy out and like,

but you're not like racing, you're just like in a practice and you're just like

running laps together and you spin them out and you're just like, all right, you

know, just gather it up and I'll wait on you.

Yeah.

Like, but like this is like a full blown cup race.

Like, like you're hoping.

Yeah.

But at the same time, if you're a reddick and you do that, you move him.

When the 67 gets back to him, he's probably going to use him up.

And that's a fair game, in my opinion.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, if anything, like if that's what I mean, like if reddit got in

front of him, going into the red bull corner and was like, oh, I'm probably

going to get, you know, kind of shipped here or, you know, now I'll get

30 up here and you move over and you know, kind of let him go.

And then, you know, like, hey, I let you go.

And then you go back racing.

I feel like that's better.

Um, optically for sure, then just stop.

You know, like I feel like that, that would have been better.

It just at least keep the position, not let him get five car links in front of you.

Yeah.

Especially like pretty much like a lot of my buddies were like, yeah, we were

like really interested in this battle and everything.

And then it's just like, you saw that and there's like, oh, well, now it's over.

Well, okay.

Well, it raised over, but I mean, respect though.

Whatever.

The, the walls repair, they got pretty good at that.

They did good.

They did really good by the end of it.

Yeah.

It took a while for the first one, right?

Yeah.

The, the O'Reilly race, they actually wouldn't mayor hit the fence.

They actually had to replace the wall and the fencing.

When our race, it wasn't that bad and they just drug it back out.

But it was cool to see like when the manhole cover came up, instead of a

normal welding truck, they brought out like a military truck.

Yeah.

Military truck with the trailer and like the military guys were ready to go.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

And then the next day for the cup race, they had cement walls already on the

military trucks, like ready to go.

Like they're prepped and ready.

So that part was cool.

That is cool.

Yeah.

Did you see the truck practice one where the photographer jumps out of the way?

Yes.

I saw that video.

That's when Justin hit the wall.

Yeah.

That was just the wall.

Yes.

I did see that.

Yeah.

There was a guy behind the wall right where Justin hit it at the fastest corner,

which a lot of us thought going into the race based off the sim was this

sweeping really fast corner was not even really going to be a corner.

It's basically straight away.

You're going to hold it wide open.

Yeah.

We all got there and slick.

This slickest part of the track by far until it got rubbered up in later in the cup

race, but like qualifying practice, truck race, or rally race.

You were nervous to ever, ever do that.

Yeah.

Go around through that corner.

But with the walls there, I don't as fast as we were going.

Yeah.

She don't want to, you don't want to have any issues like a photographer staying

there, but I think those walls giving somewhat.

No, that's way better because like Chicago, I didn't, I didn't know this

was somebody brought it up yesterday.

Chicago, they butted up against the curb.

So that's where that's where like with mine, when I hit, there's a lot of tunnel there.

No, there was a tunnel.

Yeah.

Like right behind the wall.

So it hit the concrete behind the wall.

So like it moved a little bit, but it stopped.

Yeah.

And I was like, oh, so I think the wall giving was a good thing.

Obviously you don't want to break it, but I mean, like with Anchorham, when he wrecked,

it like broke the wall.

Yeah.

But that's, I mean, that's good unless you like, you know, it's perfect.

It's perfect that it's going to move until you maybe catch the other one and it rips

the car open potentially.

But yeah, luckily we didn't have that.

Yes.

And then you were, you were not on the plane, but I, which Luke, I'm pumped.

Just everything in life.

I'm hoping that I can get away with most people want to work hard to achieve what they want to achieve.

I want to achieve what I want to achieve.

So I don't have to work that hard.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

And so when I was going out to San Diego, I Diego, Diego, dude, you're seeing

Anchorham.

Does that know how this is?

Yes.

San Diego.

Okay.

Yeah.

He nailed it.

Come on, man.

Sorry.

Come on, Tyler.

Go ahead.

Sorry to interrupt.

Wait, have you seen Anchorman now?

Yeah.

Have you seen Anchorman?

No, that's a no.

That's a no.

All right.

What are we doing?

Carson.

I have.

Will Ferrell, right?

Help him out.

All right.

Okay.

He's seen the clips.

He's probably on TikTok.

He saw the clips.

Yeah.

But anyways, so we're, we're going out there and I line up my, you know,

I walked through the airport and look like an absolute clown, but I mean,

I don't give a f**k, but look like an absolute clown.

I have ethernet cords, a wheel, a pedal, a laptop, you know, six bags around me.

And I walked through the deal and like, there's other teams at the Concord FPO

and they're just like, you know, now at this point, they just kind of like laugh

and they're just like, yeah, there's a little shocker.

I mean, the week before I had a train horn walking through the FPO, just

blasting it, but they're like, yep, there he goes.

And so I set it up.

We're, you know, plug in everything into the airplane and everything.

I'm lining it up and, uh, you know, you're not on our plane, but so

Sparks, the crew chief of the seven takes a picture of me and he sends it to

Jeff Dickerson, our boss, and Jeff sends back of, now that's awesome.

I'm walking in to a meeting with Dan Towers and the whole deal about our

future and our future state of the company.

And you send me a picture of that.

That's our future.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

I'm in there in shorts with a little logitech wheel on a desk, on a desktop.

First it was on your lap.

All of it.

Well, at first it was on my lap because you're not allowed to put the

trade table up even in a private, you know, G four or whatever.

You can't put a trade table.

So you follow the rules on the plane, right?

So I'm, but like I, it was a full mad rush because I had to, I didn't realize

with Iris and UI, you had to have internet to load it up.

I, cause you can test drive off loaded.

You're good.

You could test drive offline, but you get to hit test drive.

You have to have internet.

And so I didn't realize that.

So I'm like on my hotspot, like hustling and I'm like on my, you know, I'm

trying to calibrate my wheel, do everything before we take off.

And like, we're on like the plane.

Yeah.

No, I'm getting ready to be like, you know, pull the, you know, start, try to

pull the lever to hit the emergency brakes.

And so I'm trying to load this thing up.

We finally get it loaded.

And so I'm making laps doing everything.

And, you know, they're kind of like laughing, but like, you know, they're like,

okay, well, if this helps and everything, whatever.

But obviously, you know, fifth and practice, second qualifying upfront,

stage points, post stages, have a shot to win the race.

Yeah.

Now, now it's like, man, we need to put that thing out every week.

You know, Sonoma, you know, you better be bringing it.

Have you talked them into a permanent?

No, I'm trying to, I'm, well, I don't know how we could get that to

work, because we don't have a Starlink.

And I'd really like to.

Where there's a wheel, there's a way.

Well, when there's a wheel, there's $250,000 bill.

So there's that for the internet.

But we would have to like take the seat out.

And I think we dry lease that plane.

I think you break your lease if you start to get things off.

So I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't like that.

No, they probably wouldn't.

But it worked.

But it did work.

So yeah, I'm going to try and try to keep that up.

But yeah, no, it was fun.

I enjoyed, I enjoyed that.

But if I ran bad, like if we ran bad, then they, you know, it would be like,

all right, well, it's not worth it.

You know, it's not worth the headache.

Don't, you know, leave the damn, you know, logitech wheel at home and leave it all.

But they were like, yeah, yeah.

Bring it every week.

Luke, Luke was like, yeah, bring that thing every week.

Keep it consistent.

How many laps did you run on the flight?

A lot.

I mean, more, more minutes and hours than laps completed.

I was wrecking a lot.

So because the force feedback didn't work.

So it was really difficult.

Cause I mean, you know, you'd have a little bit of turbulence and then, you know,

then, then it doesn't match up with the bumps.

And then the wheeled has no force feedback.

So I'm like, cause I didn't get a shot to, I had to hit force.

I had to get the force feedback calibrated with internet.

And so that was the only thing I didn't get done before we got off the air.

Yeah.

I was like, damn, but no, it was funny.

So you're taking a Sonoma.

I am taking a Sonoma.

I'll take a Sonoma.

I mean, I don't, don't know how many laps I'm going to do because like,

I do at least know Sonoma, but, but I have to bring it just now because.

I mean, what else are you going to do during the flight though too?

It was like, no, seriously.

Well, that was the biggest thing was like, it's a long flight.

So it really helped.

And we would start putting other people on it.

Matt McCall got on it and he, I don't think he got ever completed a lap, but

he was starting to see a little bit every corner at some point.

But yeah, something we were talking about, Tyler.

Yesterday was the fact that, um, and the field is going to be pretty locked out

here soon.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

New blood coming in.

New blood with crews.

So, you know, and then he's destined to take over the 11 here soon.

And like, you know, Jesse Love, Zillich, um, you know, myself, you know, a lot of,

like it was funny when I was in quarter-meter racing like 2010, somebody was like,

you know, we're talking about what we want to do.

I was like, man, I think I'm going to make it to cup.

And they're like, why?

And I was like, well, because the time's out perfectly.

Well, you know, in 10 years, these guys are going to be out.

These guys are going to be out.

Yeah.

So I mean, there's a lot less people here soon that will be like, you know, going out

and there's basically, you're going to get to a point that the top 25, the only

thing we're talking about is just if there's going to switch rides less about

who's going in and out.

He's going to replace someone.

Yeah.

I agree with that.

Like then he being on the way out, Cruz possibly filling his seat, Zillich,

Hugh, Jesse, all those guys, you know, feel like Josh Berry could still be going

somewhere else in the cup series.

Like, feel like all the, like there's like, but like even two, like even like the

guys that like, uh, like a Zane Smith that is like front row, Todd, like Todd,

like he like Zanes too good that you're not going to, even if he has a bad

year, you know, he could do it.

Todd, it seems like they like him over there and he has some good runs, but like,

you know, the only thing is that, you know, they might switch teams and, you know,

within the next 35 years, but like, otherwise they're probably going to

be there for a very long time.

They're not going to look to switch them out.

So it's like, okay, well, they're going to be there for a while.

Um, you know, it's just like, man, like there's, I think we counted, like there's

like five guys, five rides that within the next 35 years that they'll

probably fill out with like a young car, young driver.

And then that's going to be your top 25 field ish for the next 20 years.

So does this make new rivals in the cup series?

Yeah, probably.

I mean, at some point you're going to have your, yeah, you're going to have your

guys for the next however many years.

So you feel like with the older generation getting older, you didn't have as many

rivals, everyone lived in the motor home lot together.

Kids played together, wives shopped together.

You have the new guys coming in that are eager to prove themselves.

Do you feel like that's going to get better?

That's a good point.

Um, I think ultimately like, yeah, I think that's a, it.

I haven't even thought of that, that I think it could, um, just from the

standpoint of like, they're not all friends per se.

Yeah.

Um, but not that they're all friends, but they're

wives aren't friends kids don't play together.

You know, like I, I obviously can't speak from experience, but it's got to be

awkward when you wreck somebody or you get into it with somebody or you're

having a heated discussion or you argue on pit road and then you go over your kids

and they're playing with the guy you just had an accident with or whatever.

And now they're either probably talking about like, oh, now we can't be friends

or now they're arguing and everything.

And now they're not friends anymore.

Like I'm sure that's a weird dynamic and kind of like an awkward and having to

have a conversation with Harrison after Nashville, when you allegedly got him.

The what?

Allegedly hooked him at Nashville under caution.

And I had to have the same kind of theory.

Yeah.

Lessons learned.

Yeah.

Speed and ticket.

But new rivalries could come out of it.

Better racing.

Well, I mean, maybe not better.

So like more entertaining.

Okay.

The only thing that I hope does not follow to the Cupseries is I wish every TV

person would stop saying Jesse Love and Connor Zilich are the best of friends.

I wish they would stop that.

Are they not?

No, I know they are, but you don't have to say it in every interview.

It's the same thing as like Jordan, Jordan Smith and Justin Thomas that always

like it gets brought up every time.

No, but I'm just like, damn it.

Like I do.

I like you like they can be friends, but it's like every interview.

It's just like, what's it like racing your best friend that you go out with

every night and do everything they talk about?

But like it's that's not doing anything to help the sport.

Like I'm like, I feel like all it is is just making the stereotype is like all

the drivers are too close of friends or too, you know, they're not going to race

each other super hard and everything.

Um, like I just feel like that's just feeding that even more.

And now it's feeding it with like, you know, the next guy's in cup and it's like,

I hope that doesn't like, you know, it's cute.

No Riley, but I hope it doesn't translate to cup from the TV perspective of everything.

Like they could be friends and everything and, you know, they could talk about it.

But it's the second they're on a race track together or the second they're in an interview.

It's every time.

Yeah.

It's like, oh, like we need enemies, not friends.

No, I know for good quality racing.

Just put me and Corey on a race track and just line us up and put us on the front

row and let us know about it.

That's what I mean.

Yeah.

But no, that's the only thing, but I've, I've been wanting to say that for a while.

It's just like, cause like, obviously I was a fan, like watching them, um, you know,

go at it in the championship, but it's like, how can you set the promo?

Like the whole championship was like, how, how, you know, the whole championship promo

was not like these guys are racing against each other.

It's just two best friends are racing each other.

Exciting.

Yeah.

And it's like, mm, like, I like can, at least for the one week, the race for

championship, can we drop the friend?

Like I get it's a, it's an interesting question, but when it's like 38 to go,

race for a championship, we don't need to hear it again.

You know, it's like, best friends.

Yeah.

Best.

I mean, they are best friends.

I mean, they're, they're inseparable.

I mean, it's awesome.

Like I'm good for them.

Happy for them.

Um, you know, I feel bad for their girlfriends or whatever.

Cause like, I think they have a bigger bromance than any relationship they could

ever have, but I'm happy for them.

Yeah.

But it's not your thing.

Not, not, oh, I just, I just don't want it.

If I'm a fan, I don't know if I want to hear that every time.

Yeah.

It's like, no, like, unless they race hard enough to, you know, make each other mad.

So that's the thing.

Wait to where they like run into each other or they like have an accident

together or they run 12

It's just like, you know, then bring it up.

But when you're bringing it up every time, it doesn't add the weight it would

in that moment of just like, man, how does it feel when you just got, you know,

used up by your best friend?

Or how does it feel when you just got drove around by your best friend?

You know, for the win, it would add more weight.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

There's a time and place for it.

There's a time and place.

Like if they just do it every time, then it's just like, uh, yeah, it's just

over saturated.

I don't know.

That's just what I had, but I just, I thought, I just haven't heard.

I just feel like you've seen, you've been seeing so much stuff about the silly

season and everything, but you haven't been seeing, hearing the

conversation of we are getting to the truly the next era here of the field

locking out.

Yeah.

And it's going to be really, really difficult for truck or a Riley guys to get

there.

Yeah, for sure.

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Is it time for the winner segment?

Speaking of rivalries.

Speaking of rivalries, that's a good transition.

I hang on.

Let me ask you one thing.

Okay.

After the race.

So leading into this 67 restart.

Are we going to restart?

Right.

Leading 45 gets bias.

Driving the chicane, 67 rolls the center a lot quicker than you do.

Gets in the back heavy and spins out.

Right.

You drive back to 19th after spinning out after the race.

We're always on guard when stuff happens.

Right.

Like I'm on channel to like Dan's our car chief, CJ, all the guys, let me, hey, be

at the car because I don't know what's going to happen or, hey, watch this guy

because I'm not sure what's going to happen.

I'm standing on the roof.

And I don't see you.

There goes a 67.

So I'm like, okay, well, he didn't go by the 67.

What took you so long to get back to the, to back to pit road after the race?

So I, um, you know, I crossed the line.

I like kind of took my helmet off, took my gloves off and everything.

And I just went really slow.

And I just enjoyed the views.

Like I was like, um, yeah.

I was like throttle wapping at like fans and waving at them and everything.

Cause like a lot of them were cheering and like they were probably like, yeah,

firstly let's finish on a road course.

Congrats.

Yeah.

They, um, but no, I was just like, growing super slow.

Like I was like, we're not going to come back here.

Um, or a good shot of not ever experience in this.

And I was, I was just really happy with my performance and everything.

I felt like we did a really, really good job on like car and direction.

Um, so like I was like really content with like, and we like went back forward.

Like we ran down the pack and then passed some more cars to get some more spots.

So I just went really slow and like got to like, just embrace it with the fans.

Brace it with the fans.

And you know, I looked like a parade lap on a local night.

Like I was waving and I was like, you know, they probably thought you won the race.

No, seriously.

I was like, um, yeah, I was joking.

I was like, man, I was not robbed of victory.

Yeah.

But the, you know, the fans were, you know, they were going to see the greatest

celebration of all time.

Uh, cause I was, somebody asked me, they're like, ah, you know, what happens if you

win?

What do you get to do when you win?

And I was like, number one, I was like, I'm not winning.

Um, but I was like, dude, if I do win, I tell you exactly what I'm going to roll

over to turn seven and I know exactly where a gap is.

I'm going to stop my car.

I'm going to roll out.

I'm going to run over towards the aircraft carrier and I'm going to go jump

in the water and I'm going to have a Navy guy come get me out.

Um, and then I'm just going to just try and go find the aircraft carrier or I'll

go try and I wanted to go drive.

I knew exactly where a gap was.

I was like, man, what if I went into the center of the military base, pass the guys

what they are?

No, no, not pass a dammy.

No, no, on turn seven, we are now turn five.

You look where the buildings were and you could turn the bus was no, you could

turn left where the hangers were and stuff.

Okay.

I was just wanting to turn left and just go see what was around there.

And I was just going to go do a burnout there.

I was like, I'm just going to go do a burnout in a random spot on this

racetrack that they wouldn't expect me to just go do a burnout.

I was just going to do it right in the military, like right in the middle of

the racetrack, route and it and do it.

I mean, I probably got like, they would have not been thrilled about me.

They probably wouldn't have had cameras there, but somebody with an iPhone

would have saw it.

They would have been pumped.

Um, so that's why I was like, you know, that's why I just kept running.

So I was like, I was not robbed.

Yeah.

The industry was, but it was gonna be, um, but now I was just really happy with

my performance, how fast we were, everything that I was just like, you know,

I kind of like had the talk pre restart to myself of just like, I don't know,

for whatever reason, like I wasn't like, I was just like, you know, this is all

gravy.

This is all house money.

You know, just, you know, whether, you know, late last restart of the day,

we're leading the race at a road course.

Yeah.

Not really on strategy.

You know, a little bit on strategy, but we went, you know, the strategy got us

from third to first.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, I'll call it not strategy.

Yeah.

Um, strategy plus a good car strategy.

Plus a good car.

The whole deal.

But no, I was, but that's why I was really slow as I, you know, had my helmet off

and everything.

So can it in.

Do you think we're gonna fight?

I'm not necessarily.

I mean, the way, the way you didn't say anything on the radio after it happened,

I knew you're okay.

No, I mean, I felt like that was, I felt like that was four years coming ish.

Yeah.

And I was like, all right, there.

Yeah.

Have you had a conversation with him at all?

Yeah.

Then he said you asked for his number.

I did.

He didn't know what happened.

I did.

No, I was wondering that.

Yeah.

He said on his show that he, he thought you're just going to congratulate

him.

Then he saw what happened.

He's like, Oh, I had no idea.

No, no, I'm, I mean, obviously he, he is very good.

And I'm looking forward to racing his ass off for, you know, 20 years.

But like, I don't know, I, I do enjoy racing him.

Like, like on the truck side, like I remember Texas, I like looked down

pit road to look at the tri-con trucks and like I looked over and I was like, I

wanted to see who was in the one this week.

And I was like, ah, it's not how I'm, I was like, OK, we'll win this week.

No problem.

Yeah.

I think we can beat him, but like it's just like, it's, you know, it's

going to be probably between me and him or, yeah, I think the tri-con trucks

are probably the best trucks, but he's definitely by far the best at like

taking advantage of him.

Yeah.

And everything for sure.

So, but no, I was, but also to like, I probably would have been

more like, damn it.

You know, other places, but like road course, I was like, I was just happy.

I was fast.

Yeah.

I'm just, I was just happy.

I was enjoying it and everything.

And I was just in a good spot that week and everything.

But I was, I was just pumped that we were fast.

That was ultimately the goal.

Yeah.

Good weekend on the 70s.

It was great.

Yeah.

I was happy about it.

You know, we're fifth in practice, got stage points, whole shebang.

Almost got SVG in qualifying.

I know if I didn't miss that she came, I overdrove the chicane.

Yeah.

I at least she both did it.

Like if you're not, they, so he did it too.

So that's what made me feel at least somewhat better too, is that he did it too.

Like he wasn't thrilled with his lap.

So I was like, okay, well, like I'm not thrilled with my lap, but neither is he.

Yeah.

So if he is his best lap, it would have been better than mine.

So I'm like, I deserving second.

Yeah.

Deserving second.

But I mean, it was good.

So you, you were going to talk to him today, but he's out West.

So unavailable.

So will you reach out to him or?

No, well, I mean, I was excited to do the interview.

I was excited.

I was excited to do the winner segment here, but you know, they must not have

sales service in California.

Can't call in.

Time zones.

Times.

Oh, time zones.

Yeah.

So that's a, it's nine o'clock there.

It's early.

Um, whatever.

I mean, I had, I had a good few questions.

Yeah.

I was ready to go.

I was going to ask him when his next cup race was.

I was excited.

Go racing.

What?

Yeah.

No, I just didn't know.

I, I was like, I bet he's on, I wonder if he's on the entry list.

He might be in the truck race.

He was on the entrance.

There is no truck race this week.

No, Wilkesboro.

The next one.

When is his next cup race?

Chicago.

Chicago, two weeks.

AI love AI.

No, just Google it.

Dude, seriously.

Well, she got any good Dell junior stories you want to tell anyone or junior stories.

I don't know.

Tied all back in.

What's your first day of junior story?

Probably that picture I sent you the other day of when I was probably seven or eight

and my dad was running the Bush series.

My uncle Jeff was, or they were all racing against him in the three.

And I had my Dell junior T-shirt on supporting my dad, but supporting him at the same time.

And I think I went over to him after a race and got his autograph.

I don't know if my family was very thrilled about it,

but I was excited.

So I'd say that's one of my earliest memories of him.

Just my dad and uncle is racing against him, right?

Like, Dell aren't being the legend he was and then Dell junior being the new kid coming

in when my dad and uncles were racing each other.

So for the people that don't know, you raced yourself.

Yep.

When did you stop racing?

Probably seven or eight years ago when I started spotting more.

Did go carts, junior dragsters, vandaleros when we moved over to Charlotte,

when my dad started running the Dr. Pepper car in 99, ran vandaleros against Lugano,

Kyle Grissom, Steve Grissom's son, Matt Martin.

Yep.

Hemerick was running Austin Hill.

So we started running legends cars.

They had those big races, the big money races.

Daniel won the first one.

I won the third and fourth one.

Unfortunately, the first one was the big paying one, 250 to win.

The other two that I won were 25 grand or 25 grand and 2500.

Oh, that's a big drop off.

Yes, big drop off.

Oh, God.

I think it was 250, then 100, then 25, then 2500.

So the opposite of what you would expect, like they normally build it up.

They just blew their water right at the start.

So it was all in one, the first one finished like fifth, top five and all of them

with the last two I won.

But they were the least paying.

Austin Hill actually finished second to me the second to last one.

So legends cars did some light model stuff, went to the fairgrounds

and a light model stock and raced against pro light models.

They gave us a weight break, but oh, God.

Yes, ended up like eighth, I think.

So it was bad, had a good time.

That was super cool.

Fairgrounds stopped.

What was the was it was it financial stopping?

Was it just life stopping it?

It's a little bit of everything.

With the legends car stuff, the way the tires were, we cut them ourselves.

Then you had to go test and break them in before you can even race them.

So like the money side plus the time side.

And then I started spotting for my dad on the weekends.

And even before that, with my dad racing, I didn't always race on the weekends

because he was gone, like I always raced with him.

So if he was home off weekend, we go run the light model.

But if he wasn't off, then we would have to go to the racetrack for him.

Right. So didn't get to race a whole lot because of that.

And then I started spotting for him, saw a career path in it.

I feel like spotting is the second best thing to driving, you know,

helping helping the guys I spot for as much as I can on the driving side.

Always had aspirations to do it, you know,

kind of wish I would have stuck to it a little longer just to see, you know,

what I could have done like Coral of Joy was in the same path I was, like said,

Hemric, obviously you need funding, right?

To get the opportunities.

But it would have been interesting to see how, how

I will I would have done in the Mount Cousin Austin, right?

And he's got an opportunity the last couple of years has done really well.

Definitely a great road course racer.

Like I felt like I was pretty good in the road course stuff too.

So it's I would have loved the opportunity.

But like I said, second spotting second best to driving and I've had a great time,

especially since I started spot for you.

I was just saying the money probably was like probably pretty spread thing

in the greenhouse just for the fact there were so many.

So many greens.

So many of us like it's just like a little here, a little here.

Like once you sponsor a green, you sponsor them all basically.

Yeah.

Oh, it's so funny.

No, I've never really asked why you stopped.

Yeah.

And even piggybacking off of what you said.

When I was coming up and racing, I was at the wrong time.

Yeah, it was like you were at where it was locked out.

Yes.

And now it's kind of open back up to where you're coming in.

So it's life's about timing, right?

You were at the era of the, you know, the Boston Reads of the world

where they get two shots in a bush car.

And if you didn't win them, you're done.

Yeah.

It's like, you know, everybody had a Hendrik Gibbs.

Whatever team was around then development deal.

And then, you know, ah, you know, it's cool.

You're out.

Yeah.

You know, yeah.

Yeah.

So money.

Timing.

The whole deal.

Yeah.

You never did ASA?

Never did anything that just like Moss Talks.

Yeah.

And then that was your own stuff.

Yeah.

Me and Dad built all our stuff.

If we could build it, we wouldn't buy it.

Yeah.

It was always our mentality.

The old school racer stuff.

So I always, I was enjoyed taking my car apart, building it

through the off season, wintertime, putting it back together.

You know, Sam Mayer ran for us in Lesnick's cars.

I didn't know that.

Yep.

Sam McCauley, who is the crew chief of the 20 O'Reilly car.

He, him and I were good friends.

We'd always work together, rebuild our cars together.

Mike Snyder ran for us.

So we had a few, few people run through our Lesnick's car stuff.

But yeah, I always had aspirations to drive, but just, just didn't work out.

That's why I didn't hang out like it.

Our team's unique.

Like you raced Nicholas Soa, our lead engineer.

He still races.

Yeah.

Well, he thinks he races.

We tell him he doesn't.

He just kind of rides around.

He tries hard.

But he tries really hard.

No, he does.

Well, he kind of got screwed that he, when he was coming up, I don't know how they

do the legends cars, like formatting of like what series you're in.

But when he was coming up, like he was pretty good, but now he's like hobby racing.

Yeah.

Well, the problem is he's still like in the class he was when he was growing up,

trying to become a race car driver.

So now he's like with the guys trying to prove themselves.

He's not in the hobby racing.

So he he's kind of dealt a bad hand on that one.

But and then Luke raced himself too.

So like everybody on our team that has like a deciding factor raced.

And then even like Jeff, like he, you know, he would tell you for sure that he

attempted racing, did not do a lot of racing on, you know, on, but he did a lot

of the try hard midgets and never ran split cars, but midgets and everything.

And he flipped a lot.

But yeah, but like everybody that has like a deciding factor on the 77, like

obviously me, but like, you know, between you, Soa, Luke and Jeff, like all have

racing feedback and experience.

Yeah.

Even Matt McCall or Compton.

Yeah.

Even Matt, like he was fourth in media week in the gong show.

That's very true.

I remind him of that every time he was fourth in media week.

It was a big deal.

Yeah.

No, I remind him that all the time when he was on the sim, when he piled

over that thing in the wall, I was like, yeah, that's fourth, the media week

right there, pal.

Yep.

Showing us how you did it.

He loves it.

No, I had, he had to put the driving line on.

I won't, I want to put that out there.

I had to make him put the driving line.

Oh, that's not good.

Yeah.

He had to put the driving line on.

That's for us.

That's funny.

And if he had the driving line on and the gong show, he maybe would have made it.

He maybe would have made it.

Love you, Matt.

Hell of a late-matter racer.

Hell of a late-matter.

So I spotted for him.

Yeah.

Remember that?

So he won Southern National twice and I was spotting for him, but then.

Wait, you spotted for him?

When he won?

The two races he won back to back, I spotted for him.

And then this last year, I didn't get the call to spot for him.

No, I could call.

Wait, did he win when you spotted?

Hell no.

He ripped the nose off lap zero.

Like lap zero, legitimately.

So he's like always on me, like me and him fight tooth and nail.

We fight all the time.

He keeps Carson honest.

Yeah.

He's like the uncle of the team.

No, me and him argue all the time of like, you know, I, I don't think there's a

thing called, you know, there's, there's, I think saving tires is a myth.

You can manage your tires.

You can manage them.

You can manage the heat.

You can manage the wear.

You cannot save them.

You can physically not go slow unless you went like ridiculously slow, but you

cannot go real realistically slow enough to have more tire later.

Eventually they just get hot and they wear the same.

They're basically going to wear.

And sometimes they, you go slow enough that you're sliding them more and you end

up wearing them more.

This is a big debate.

Just a big debate.

And so he thinks I'm full of and I might be, but you know, I'm not letting him

believe that.

And so anyway, so we, we go to the nail.

So he, you know, argues with me all the time about patience and everything and,

and you know, racecraft and tires, tires saving.

And I'm like, all right, well, Southern national late mall race tires wear

completely perfect timing to, you know, show me how to get it done legitimately.

Corner one drives through this guy, knocks the nose, a hole in the nose, hole

in the hood and is then bitching out the guy in front of us.

I'm like, dude, you just ran into him.

Like, I thought we were saving.

We were saving, you know, saving tires and we literally get through the gears.

And then it's like, all right, guys, uh, if you could get a chance, can you

walk down to the front stretch, check the nose?

We just hit some.

So no, he just wanted to make you feel right at home.

I just, I just, I'm just loving the crossover we have at spirally.

Everybody's just been everywhere.

Like you worked with Matt, Jeff Dickerson was Matt's agent at some point.

Yeah.

Luke and Matt and sparks all worked together at different race teams.

You spotted.

Wait, so hold on.

Did you spot with Matt for the late malls when you were spotting for him with Murray?

Okay.

So that's the crossover.

So you were Matt McCall's spotter, obviously, and cup was Jamie McMurray

and then Kirk, right?

Yep.

But so, okay.

So he was racing the late mall at that time.

So that's why the timeline.

Yes, I thought it was further before that.

I was like, wait, because I had always heard Matt was bad ass, but like I,

he must have came back and ran.

He did.

Yeah, it wasn't like when he was in his prime, like trying to, you know, go

racing, racing, going to that.

When it wasn't doing full time.

Yeah.

We wasn't doing full time.

Okay.

Interesting.

Yeah.

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All right, it's time for Ask Junior.

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doing this part.

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So me and TJ are here for your questions.

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Let's get to your questions.

One of the big questions a couple of weekends ago we didn't get to is what

was it like and victory lane again with Nicole and getting in the car?

Nicole, that was fun.

We were at Pocono and I went up to Justin before the race started.

I told all the drivers this.

I said, my girls are here.

If you win, I'll hope you'll try to win.

Get us the victory lanes.

The girls can enjoy that because I love giving them the opportunity to have

those experiences.

Justin said if I win, they should go for a ride in the car.

Well, he's done this with his own girls.

So I thought I'll give it a shot.

Yeah, we'll see what happens.

I don't know if they'll get in there.

So we win the race.

Justin's pit is down at the end of Pit Road.

So we are running toward the flag stand where he's doing his burnout.

We get about halfway there and Ila says she doesn't love the smoke.

Doesn't want to go any further.

And I grabbed Nicole's hand.

I said, come on, Nicole.

You want to go?

And she's like, yeah.

So we run up there and I get to the wall and I said, okay, Nicole, you want

to go over closer to the car?

And she says, yep.

And so I'm all right.

We'll go closer.

So we get over to the car because I'm waiting on her to say, nope.

Don't like this.

Yeah.

Don't like it too loud, too noisy, too hot.

We get over to the car and Justin is perfect.

And I've said this a million times, how good he is inside and out of the car.

And this is what I'm talking about.

We get over there and he kneels down and just gives her this perfect little

fatherly talk of, hey, you want to ride in the car?

It's going to be fun.

You and your dad can get in there.

Yeah, I'll do it.

Won't be loud.

It won't be this.

It'll be fine.

You'll be safe.

Yep.

And she's like, yeah, I do.

And so right in the middle of all the going on there, him waving, you know,

celebrating with the crowd and all that, he stops, gets down on a knee and has this

little quick conversation with her.

And I'm like, all right, you want to do this for sure?

She goes, yeah.

And so I climb in the car.

Well, the damn floorboards burning up in Hollywood.

He's standing there.

He's like, Dale, it's hot.

Gave careful.

Don't sit on it.

And I'm like, well, I got her coming in here, so I can't get on my knees or whatever.

So she's got to, I've got to sit down.

So she's got somewhere to rest.

So he takes his jacket off, his over his top.

Yes, fireproof fireproof top and puts it under my ass.

And I said on that and then she's coming there and sit down and they gave us a

checkered flag and she's holding it and I'm holding her hand and make sure the flag

don't go anywhere.

And I'm like, all right, we're just going to wave and woo, you know, we're just going

to wave and holler.

And she waves and hollers all the way there to Victor Lane.

She's, I'm listening, looking at her.

She's woo.

Yeah.

All the way there.

She had a blast.

And the best part about this is yesterday we were in my truck driving and she goes,

hey, dad, you remember us riding in the car with that guy?

And I said, Justin, she goes, yeah, in the race car.

I'm like, yeah, I remember.

She goes, I wasn't scared.

Kind of makes me want to try be a driver.

Oh, and I was like, really?

She goes, kind of.

I'm like, all right.

Like, we need to tell your mother immediately.

It was hilarious.

Yeah.

Cause I was always been kind of the opposite.

Hasn't she?

What's that?

I was kind of the opposite.

Yeah.

She does really.

I don't want nothing to do with noises and loud stuff and fast.

Anything.

Yeah.

Anything abrupt and aggressive.

TJ, if you were able to take your kids to Victor Lane.

No, but I took them to the go-kart track one time.

Stella actually loves to drive.

She has no fear.

She is nuts.

Madeline's kind of like I'll let she just say, that's not really for me, but Stella

is the one that she has no fear.

Gotcha.

Next question.

Fan wanted to know what was the free agency like for you, Dale, when you're

trying to decide between where to go?

Hendrick, JGR.

Man, that's awesome.

Back then, there were a couple of really good options on the table.

And so I could talk, I talked to Richard Childress about the three.

I talked to Joe Gibbs a lot about the 18 and.

And obviously, you know, talked a lot to Rick.

And I wanted to go drive for Rick really bad.

I felt like Hendrick, I don't know, you know, there's a family connection there.

My grandfather worked there at Rick's forever.

They were very close.

Rick treated me like family.

And I'm glad I made that decision.

I always wonder what it would have been like maybe to go to Joe Gibbs and race there.

And race there.

And the connection to Washington was a big deal for me.

Yeah, some emotional polls.

Yeah, yeah.

I couldn't go to Richards to do the three.

And I didn't want to go to Richards and do any other number.

Yeah.

And I just felt like that that was just setting myself up and him and everybody up for

there was never it was never going to be good enough, no matter how much success we had.

That was just been a real challenge.

And so.

Yeah, I'll always wonder what it might have been like to race with Joe and his family.

They're very loyal to their drivers.

And I felt like I would have been well taken care of.

But I'm glad I made the decision I made.

Rick was equally loyal.

There were some years, they're very, very down years where I think a lot of drivers

would have been let go.

They're hung on to me and we fought to find a good balance and a package or set up

that worked and we finally did with a tart.

And me and Steve, we talk about it all the time, you know, that little run that we

had and how how good we had gotten as a team.

And we're very proud of it.

What was it like you hear sometimes a free agency like clandestine like meetings

with teams or whatever?

Was it very like hush hush when you're going to meet with a team?

Yeah, super duper.

Yeah, I went all the way to Washington to to meet with Joe.

And we were at Dan Snyder's house.

Joe wanted us to meet there.

And I guess they thought that the Washington at the time, Washington Red

Sands Connection was a big plus in the negotiation.

And we walked in to this house.

It was awesome, really intimidating, honestly, hard, hard to, hard to think

about racing and working with Joe.

And in that environment, it was hard to like think about what racing at Joe

Gibbs would be like.

And Joe gave us a term sheet and the numbers on that

made me physically nauseous because it was so big.

Like I had, I had been racing with the eye for a long time under a very modest

contract, which I knew was way undervalued, comparable to what we were, we were doing.

And what others were doing.

And when I saw what the value was out there for me, and that was the first time,

I think the first time I got a term sheet was through Joe Gibbs.

It was insane.

I was like, holy shit, Kelly, I said, we got to go home.

I was like, we got to go home.

We got to talk.

We got to go home.

Like, I don't know what Rick's going to put in front of me.

But but I'm ready to leave.

Like I did.

It didn't make me not want to do it.

It just made me want to go home and sit down and get somewhere safe and get back

in your home.

Calm down.

Yeah.

And then and go and look at, I mean, it was just me and Kelly doing this together.

We had nobody else, which is wild when you think about it nowadays.

And so it's me and Kelly and I'm like, I'm looking at her going, holy.

You believe what they want to give us.

And she's sitting there going, she's got a business mind and she's like, absolutely.

I think this is a fair, I'm like, fair, holy moly.

This is like life altering.

And I wanted to leave.

So I said to Kelly, I was like, don't you think we need to go home and sort of

think about this?

And I still want to meet with Rick and still want to go through this process.

And she's like, absolutely.

Yes, we're going to do that.

That's I think.

We'll go out there and we'll tell them this is awesome.

We want to go home and think about it.

We've got a few other things to consider.

So we walk out of the room and we go over to this living room area where Dan and

Joe and all them are at.

And we said that very thing.

And Dan Snyder said, you're not leaving here without signing that.

He's like, you're going to sign that tonight.

And Dan Snyder started throwing all kinds of stuff.

And Dan Snyder started throwing all kinds of other things into the pot ownership

of this business and stock in this and stakes in this.

And I'm like, Hey, stop, stop.

I was like, I can't sign this.

I need to think about this.

This is a massive, what you've put in front of me is so overwhelming that I have

to think about it.

I've got to take a couple of days.

And, um, and Joe was like, I understand no problem.

We're, and I was like, I'm so thankful, but I just in shock.

So, yeah, that was the first, first meeting.

We never had a sit down full that I remember.

We never that I recall.

We never had a real full sit down pitch with, with Richard and the three.

Um, and then I went to see Rick and he tried to give me a term sheet and I said,

don't know that to me.

I was like, I don't even want to see it.

I was like, you and Kelly discuss the numbers and y'all, um, y'all can handle it.

I don't even want to look at that.

I don't even want to know what you're going to pay me.

I said, I want painted side skirts.

I want, I want, you know, I want my car to look badass.

I know your cars will be fast.

I'm going to have fun driving them.

I want them to look cool.

You're going to pay me a money that I probably don't deserve.

Um, and if it's anything like what they, they pitched me it Joe gives it'll be

enough.

So as long as they pretty much met that you were going to go to Hendrick.

And did you ever give Joe a chance to?

No.

Could have got more.

I don't think I would have been, not been comfortable asking for more.

That's an interesting story.

Uh, speaking of that, someone asked, uh, did you get a John Riggins card this weekend?

Yes, I did.

Um, or last weekend at Pocono, Pocono, I got a card from a fan and, um, dude,

he told me his name.

I'm so apologetic.

It might say it was Mike.

Um, he gave me a, uh, it's a $35 card, but I mean, listen, it doesn't matter.

I am a massive Washington fan.

So this card might as it could have been worth a thousand bucks.

It doesn't matter to me.

It's, it's, it's, it's amazing.

It's a Joe Gibbs.

Uh, I'm sorry.

So it's a John Riggins, um, modern John Riggins numbered like orange refractor,

some bull, refractor, because there's a thousand of them, but it's a badass car.

PSA 10 and throw that right in my collection.

You know it.

Teaching what's a car that doesn't value wise, isn't much, but you either one or have

same thing.

Any, any Buffalo bills, players honestly, is there like, is there one that's like,

um, like obviously Josh Shaman, is there like a Buffalo bills player that like?

Yeah.

I mean, anytime you see like a Jim Kelly or a Thurman Thomas, like those were

heroes to me when, when I was young, kind of like him with John Riggins, like

those were like, you know, the guys, I think both of Riggins and Thomas, I think

are underrated players that don't read would be another one.

Yeah.

Those are fun.

Those are awesome players.

Yes.

Uh, another question.

Person wants to know what is your go to candy bar?

Like I'm a Snickers P one right now.

It's probably the, uh, the Hershey bars that are Oreo cookie.

Oh, those are good.

So I like them a lot.

Oh man.

Dude, I'm glad you asked this question.

I am.

So I was going to save, I was going to run this on bless your heart, but we went

to Hershey park during the Pocono weekend and had a great time.

But I got to know, man.

Um, you know, we give Hershey, we pick a joke about Hershey, uh, and, and how,

uh, how much fun we have at the, at the theme park.

But I've wondered why it feels to me like Mr.

Goodbar when we're talking about candy bars.

I think the Mr.

Goodbar candy bar is a top three of all time.

And I don't know why I feel like it's suppressed a little bit because it's not top three.

What is it?

I don't know anything about it.

It's a peanuts and chocolate bar.

Yeah.

It's good.

It is.

I would go Snickers Twix crunch bar.

Crunch over really.

Good.

Yeah.

All right.

So let's look, let's think about it.

Let's just, I appreciate your opinion and I share there are some good candy bars out there.

Let's stay in.

Let's, let's just go into the Hershey family.

Okay.

Just the Hershey family.

When you get that assorted bag with Hershey's crackle and which ones are you eating out of

there first?

They're a crackle.

The regular crunch ones.

The crunch ones.

Not Mr.

Goodbar.

No, no.

Wow.

A good bar is good.

That's, I feel like it's better than good and I feel like the Hershey doesn't.

It would be a great bar then.

Well, I feel like.

I go with the crunch first man.

Crunch is just classic.

I feel like that Hershey isn't maximizing its potential.

I think they know what they're doing.

They've been around long enough.

One of them has to be the sleeper.

It's underrated.

I'll give you that.

I don't think they want it outperforming the mothership.

Yeah.

You can't have it.

And it could and it would and it should.

I don't know.

I think it's different now.

It's just peanut allergies.

It came out before.

That's what I was going to say, man.

There's so many peanut allergies nowadays and it's just.

Just because your daughter has a peanut allergy.

It's not just mine.

It's a lot.

I know, but dude, I mean.

But that's why.

Yeah.

Well, there's peanuts in a lot of candy bars.

Some that you mentioned.

Snickers.

Yeah.

Hold the stickers back.

But Snickers isn't just a chocolate bar and like little peanuts.

Oh wait, but there's, you can still have a reaction to it.

But it's regardless of how many peanuts are in there.

But it's so good that it's able to overcome.

Your logic is flawed because you've just mentioned candy bars you like that have peanuts in them.

But there's the, but the, how it's made is able to overcome the peanut allergies.

Like the good, like that's just not.

I don't know what you're trying to say.

A Snickers bar is made better.

It's got more than just chocolate and peanuts and the peanuts are better.

I don't really, I don't know what he's trying to say.

Can your girl, can your girl eat the Snickers?

She's going to avoid that as well.

I'm sure.

That doesn't seem to hurt their ranking.

Because it's better though.

So it's able to overcome it.

I like the Mr. Good Bar.

I think a lot of people do.

I think that it is underrated and doesn't get the credit it deserves for being as good as it is.

And it probably never will.

And it probably never will because I don't think Hershey's needs it to kick ass.

I just think there's, God it's good.

When I,

I do think it's got things against it now though.

Like the peanut largely definitely plays against that.

But that's, there's a lot of peanuts and a lot of candy bars.

Yes, but, yes, but it's never going to top anything because it's just straight up peanuts.

People are going to be like, oh it's got peanuts in it for sure.

Can she eat Reese's Cups?

No.

All right.

But Reese's is kicking ass.

But it's not, it's how it's made.

No.

Yes.

Dude, he just told you she cannot eat them.

I know that if you have peanut allergy you can't eat those what I'm saying.

Well he says that's a big factor.

But it is, but some things are able to overcome peanut allergies because of how it's made.

No.

And it's, they're not the same.

You think it's made differently so it succeeds on?

No, no, I'm not talking about.

No, no, I'm saying you, what's wrong with how the good bar is made?

It's made just fine.

But it's not as good as Reese's.

Why not?

It's not.

It's just not.

It's definitely not because, I think it's just good.

Ah, I don't, I don't think it's just good.

You can also, there's substitutes for the peanut butter cookies like.

I want to hear from Mr. Goodbar fans.

There's, they substitute that sun butter stuff.

Yeah.

Like you can substitute some butter for like, if you make, or bit, like, I don't know, you

can substitute stuff to get similar to that.

And they don't do it from Mr. Goodbar.

All right.

Honestly, I kind of forgot Mr. Goodbar was existing.

Yeah.

I mean, it is underrated.

I'll give you that.

It is.

I feel like that's a good place for us to stop.

He's done with you.

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This week we go to Sonoma.

Obviously sort of same contenders we have, you know, yeah, you know, every week at the

road.

Same heavy hitters.

Who's your pick?

Who looks good?

Oh, the 77.

What about the 71?

Can I say the 71?

Yeah.

Keep it in the team.

I mean, he, I think he has the best average finish at Sonoma.

Yeah.

He does really good on road courses.

He does really good.

The Sonoma is probably one of his best places.

They're super bowl.

It's true.

So like this, like this is the, like, you know, like ours is probably Atlanta, like

where I'm most excited going into it.

Michael's is probably Sonoma.

Yeah.

Where he's most excited.

So pretty good weekend at San Diego.

Not the best, not what they wanted, but a good weekend for points.

So they're trying to get yourself in the, they need to dig out of the hole.

So like, I mean, if you're going to come to a race where you're going to dig out a hole,

this would be one.

Yeah.

SVG obviously is going to be tough.

He obviously, I think was expected to win everywhere on the reverse.

Well, last week, especially.

The way everybody was saying that he was going to win, and you know, the question wasn't

if he was going to win, it was just how margin I was like, ah, he's getting wrecked.

Like at some point, something's going to happen.

It's going to be similar to like Chicago when he went there the second time.

I was like, oh, he's, you know, he's just going to dominate, which he was super fast.

But at some point you get stuck in traffic.

It's just the universe is going to universe.

Yeah.

Car change.

The interesting thing though is that he was getting passed early in the race.

It wasn't like he was dominating.

Got him.

Yeah.

Got him.

Got him for one corner.

And it wasn't like he was saving so much tire though.

But I, I don't know how good his car was.

Yeah.

Like I don't, like even if he was in the race, I don't think he was a guarantee to win.

Yeah.

I know.

I don't, I don't think so.

I don't think he was saving and we were saving just as much as he was and we were backing

up and like Blanian, if you guys were going forward.

So I, I think I don't think his car was, was, was great.

Now I think as the track rubbered up at the end, his, his, his car would have shot.

Like the most, but with how much tire wear we had at the start, his car was vulnerable.

Yeah.

I agree.

And Sonoma ever want to be pretty much on the even playing field versus San Diego.

Yeah.

It's going to be, you know, they're, they're going to have to.

They're going to have a good balance.

They're going to have a good setup.

But you know, it's not going to be a, like I felt like at San Diego, you might see some

contenders kind of come out of the deal or you know, kind of rise or whatever, or some

contenders get thrown out of it.

It was more or so not who hits on the setup.

It was more about who doesn't miss.

Yeah.

Cause I thought it was just going to be a bigger swing of just who missed versus like, oh, they're

a little better here.

Like you weren't going to be able to see that too much.

Yeah.

And make the difference, but you were going to be like, oh, they're terrible.

Yeah.

Like they're not, like he's not even relevant to the, you know, X driver is not relevant.

Yeah.

Um, I hope hope for somebody I hope is not good just because where he is in points is

Bushard, but he's super good at Sonoma.

But for, you know, considering he's seventh and we're ninth, I'm hoping he is not as fast

as he normally is.

What do you think your chances are to have a solid day?

Uh, I mean, based after San Diego, I feel a little better.

Um, for sure.

And the, you know, Michael has really fast cars at Sonoma.

So like I'll have a good data point.

Daniels one at Sonoma.

Um, so they're super good too.

Um, or I imagine they're going to be, do you sit down and talk to them or pick their

brain or, uh, no, I don't.

Um, but like our crew chiefs do like they work really, really closely together.

Um, I don't know.

I'm weird.

Um, obviously.

Uh, but like, I don't even watch other people's in cars.

I watch my own.

That's it.

Like, uh, I think Dale asked me, Sarah, he's like, yeah, you know, what'd you think?

SVG is in cars?

I haven't watched a single lap of his in car.

I don't know.

I'm like, I like, if I was slow, I would probably watch it.

But like, if I'm fast, like I'm just going to watch my own and I'll just be a self critic

of myself.

Yeah.

Um, cause like I just know I can get into the zone of what my car feels like and everything.

Like I don't know what he feels like.

I don't know.

I don't like, I'm more so just reminding myself of what I had and like being like, all right,

I remember feeling like this and oh, I thought it looked better, but I could have got further

left or whatever.

Yeah.

So yeah, I don't know.

I look at, you know, as Tyler can attest, he sends me way more data than I ever look

at.

Is there a another driver that we should just be like thinking about for a point?

I got two already.

Tyler.

Uh, as far as who's going to be good or who's going to be good?

Uh, I feel like Larson's a question mark.

Um, like, like he probably could be good.

San Diego.

Yeah.

He was good.

It could be good.

That's what I mean.

Yep.

The nine.

Nine could be good.

Yeah.

I would say, I would say Larson's probably likely to be fast for sure.

Yeah.

I mean, he was up there on Sunday.

I think Reddick will be obviously fast.

I think he'll be.

Toyotas.

Yeah.

Other than the Toyotas by the nine to five, uh, 71.

Yeah.

Basically all the Toyotas, the 17, 97.

Well, now it'll be interesting though to see what the, uh, the 20 does.

Oh, if they're going to have him race.

Yeah.

If they're going to have a switch again, cause that'll.

Yeah.

Last week didn't go good.

No.

Poor guy.

So he just money shifted.

Is that what happened?

Double down shift or whatever.

Off of data.

Yes.

Off of data.

And in the in car, it sounded like it was about 10, 5, 11,000 RPM for a couple seconds

before it hang grenade.

Oh, that's brutal.

Yeah.

Bad deal.

Brutal.

But I feel like for Christopher Sonoma's probably a little easier.

I don't know.

A broken leg is how many, how many a little different than a broken wrist.

How many points is he ahead of six or 17th?

Like what's he above the cut?

So, so he is 422 verse 362 and Shane 17th.

So like you're looking at like potentially I'm not a max points, but like a, a win bonus

for Shane.

Get close to him.

That's getting tight.

Yeah.

But Shane's got a, his playoff chances just took a big hit.

Yeah.

No, I know, but I'm, I mean, but still like, I mean Christopher's going to be good, but

like you got to think like you're going to start going to race tracks like indie, like

where you're throwing massive blocks down a straight way.

He's, Christopher's not going to be able to throw blocks like that quick.

I don't think one handed.

You would know more than me about, no, I know, but like, or driving.

No, just, no, not even trying to make the joke I'm saying in terms of driving.

But I know, but like, oh, that'd be difficult.

Like, I know at Pocono, he said he's like, I threw a block on him once and he never even

considered it.

And like, I went back and like, I realized like, yeah, he, yeah, he said he's just like,

yeah, I can't turn left that fast.

Like I can't, I can't just change directions.

So I was like, dang, I took it.

Sorry, sorry, Christopher.

It took advantage of a poor guy with broken wrist.

Um, dude, he was, he, he, does he like road course racing?

Christopher?

Yeah.

Um, I don't know.

Cause he was so excited for your race.

He was so pumped.

Like, I don't know if he just was like pumped to like leave early or something.

Um, but he was like super excited.

Yeah.

Oh, unless maybe he thought Brent was going to win the race and like get him a lot of

points, but I like, I think we all were like, dude, like what's like you are.

Right.

Like you've never been so personable.

Like you're so excited.

This is Sunday morning.

Yeah.

No, this was on the like trolley, like the little tram, like, you know, all the

drivers are around and even I like asked Christopher, I was like, dude, are you?

You like, like, you know, they, it's even like some painkillers.

I know he was getting out of the car at that point.

Yeah, he was like, dude, I'm getting out 20 laps or less.

Yeah.

First caution.

They knew maybe he was happy for Brent to get the opportunity.

I think, you know, he's, yeah, for sure.

He's a genuine person.

No, he is.

He is actually like super like loyal, like type of person and everything.

So, and, you know, Brett being a dirt guy, like, yeah, there's, there's a really

good shot that he was just super excited for Brett and that he felt like Brett was

going to do a really good job for him.

So he's like, I, you know, I get out, you know, this is perfect.

Maybe both worlds more points than he thought.

That's what I mean.

Like, well, definitely more points than, yeah.

Well, well, I don't know more points, you know, with the engine failure, but like

definitely more points than he would have done with a broken wrist.

Yeah.

For sure.

I mean, I remember when I broke my ankle and Daniel filled in for me at Daniel

finished seven, I was pretty pumped.

Yeah.

I was like, yes, dude.

He got me out.

I like gained points like on, on the day I was like, yes, that's awesome.

And that was right before Sonoma.

No, yes.

No, so I broke my ankle.

I qualified on the pole.

I bet in the fence, but I still qualified on the pole.

That's Sonoma.

And truck, six tenths, bashing the field.

Got him.

But Daniel filled in for me because NASCAR was not going to let me do the race.

They're like, you can do 10 laps and then swap.

So I swapped out, did everything and swore us.

Yes, swore us filled in because the track house relationship.

Yeah, I know.

So I spotted for him.

I didn't even realize that because I was spotting for you.

Yeah, you did.

Yeah.

I didn't even think about Daniel filling in for you that time.

You did.

I forgot who did that.

And Frankie was the second spotter that day.

Little did we know.

No, I know.

I have to have a conversation about that.

No, I know.

But Frankie was the second spotter.

Okay.

Yep.

And you were spotting.

And so we're all in the game here and swore us filled in and swore us drove forward

throughout the race because truck race, you know, cup guy, not that hard for him.

Drives through the field, finishes seventh and I was pumped.

I was like, good points day.

You know, it cost me zero effort and I gained points on the dam.

Yeah, easy shoot.

This ain't this ain't that tough.

You just you get a cup guy to fill in for you and you gain points.

Like this is not that hard.

Just don't ask Amarillo about it.

Poor guy.

First career win.

I know.

Uh, yeah.

No, we talked about that.

Cause it's still like just our group of just like just weird NASCAR stuff.

Yeah.

And it's just like, Amarillo's first win.

Didn't get to do it.

Milwaukee.

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Like we do it each month.

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If they have any like any hosts of our stuff, it doesn't have to be diecast.

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Yeah, no, it should be.

It's just like Disney.

This is, I was just saying, Tyler's obsessed with Disney.

He's a Disney adult.

Everybody didn't know.

Two girls.

Yeah.

Oh, you've got kids.

That's okay.

No, no, do not.

No, do not use that.

I mean, I still have a good time.

Do not use that excuse.

Do not use it.

It's different.

You would go on your own.

No, you kind of have because do you take the girls when you run?

Yes, they go.

Okay.

Yeah, that's fair.

We all go.

It's a family thing.

It starts as a family thing, but I'm not saying if we were down there, like, and

we could sneak away, my wife might be really mad at me for going, but you know,

if you want to go ride, so I can say that Disney adult, she loves Disney.

Yeah, she loves Disney.

Well, so I can say that I could, I can make funny.

All right.

I'm not even making funny.

I'm just more saying, you know, you go with me.

No, no, I 100% what no, I'm just in saying embrace it.

Yeah.

Do not be a closeted Disney.

I mean, I'm not wearing the Mickey ears or the tails or anything, but I'm there

wearing a shirt.

Yeah.

So that's what I mean.

When you're a Disney adult, I feel like that's a bad, you get a bad rep.

You a crazy Disney adult is the, you know, we'll stay with that and, you know,

wearing the Mickey ears and, you know, doing everything aggressively.

Yeah.

Just going and, you know, and just embracing your child.

The Churros.

Yeah.

Churros.

The weight Churros.

Yeah.

Like in a sentiment, say that Tokyo.

What?

This is another movie reference.

No, that's a Charles Barkley reference.

I don't know that one either.

Travis, have you seen that?

Have you heard that one?

Yes.

Yes, dude.

Did Churros?

No, no, no.

Oh, so I don't know.

Talk about later.

We'll talk about later.

All right.

Churros.

I already got that.

Disney, what you're talking about, we don't want to mix.

No, but no, the Churros are good.

No, I do enjoy them.

No, so I have a absolute, you know, gripe or, you know, I don't know, grudge against

Disney, they took out lights, motor action at Hollywood Studios.

The show.

Please tell me.

I'm seeing the stunt show.

Yeah.

Yeah, they stole that.

They took that out for damn Star Wars.

Apparently, you know, a multi-gazillion dollar.

That's where we got into the Disney stuff, but.

You missed out.

Yeah.

Dude, they had a Herbie and there was always a Churros stand right next to Herbie.

That would have been a good one.

It was awesome.

Well, now they have Cars Land.

At least, I mean, it's not Herbie, but at least they have Cars Land out.

They had like Cars Jumping and like.

Blowing up.

Blowing up and like going.

Universal had something like that.

They had like Cars Getting Jumped and like Going On to Other Cars and they had like,

like it was literally like choreographed, car drifting.

Indiana Jones for Cars.

Yes, that's exactly what it was.

And it was like Cars Blowing Up, but like they had like guns and stuff

and they were shooting each other and it was.

And then they took it away for Star Wars.

Three or four years old one that's going on, right?

No, so I 100% would cheat the hell out of the system.

So they would always have a kid get picked at the end

towards the end of the show.

And they would they in one of the stunt cars, they had a car where

it wanted to look like it was remote control.

Like so in the you know, because Hollywood Studios, they're pretty much

going with the deal of like you're behind the scenes of like Hollywood, right?

Yeah.

So you were basically watching like a car stunt show movie get played.

Like they had a director.

They had Indiana Jones.

Yeah, Indiana Jones.

But you know, for that, if people know.

And so they had a driver on the side of the door and that's where he set.

So it looked like if you're on camera, there was nobody on the door.

No, but like actually on the side of the door, like side of the door.

Like he was not like visible if you weren't on the side he was on.

OK, yeah, he's hiding.

He was hiding. Yeah.

And so they had they would get a kid to be convinced that they drive

the car via remote control, but secretly they have a guy just on the side of the car.

Yeah. And so I always thought that was really fun.

So I figured out because I had gone so many times, I figured out exactly

where they picked the kid, like what section they would always go to.

Where like what you needed to do.

Oh, yeah, full blown rigging this thing.

One time I got picked twice in the same day and I had a I had the shows

T-shirt on like and I would always play the part.

I was like, I don't know what's about to happen at all.

So what would you do when they picked you?

So they would be like, all right, you know, come down way from and, you know,

they'd be like, I'd be like, I'm Carson from Michigan.

And they'd be like, all right, you know, hand clap for Carson from Michigan.

Yeah, he's going to drive a real car with the remote control.

And it's like, all right, you know, move it, put your hand here and then move it forward.

And then the car would move forward and then all right back, back.

And then they're like, all right.

And now what you're going to do now that you have the control is you're going to run it.

Wide open.

And then you're going to put it backwards, run it wide open to reverse.

And then you're going to and then you can do whatever you want.

So, you know, you then push it wide open and go wide open back.

And then all of a sudden the car would start spinning and it'd be like,

oh, what's happening?

And then you then it would reveal like there's actually a guy driving it.

Not you. Oh, he was never driving it.

But congratulations. So what did you do?

What did I know? I would like turn.

Did you just like go to the.

No, I was in the jumbo.

No, I was just on the jumbo.

No, I never exposed the show.

I never exposed the show ever.

You know, part of me always felt bad after that I was like, man,

I robbed a lot of kids of that opportunity.

But I was like, man, I was.

But I just it was my favorite show.

You go all the time.

I all the time.

I went to that show every day.

So before we wrap, though, we have one question.

I think that will the internet has one question.

K Adams.

What? Where are we at with this?

Uh, I'm a I'm a fan.

I like your show.

I enjoy it. What about it?

I just everyone's been asking, you know, what's going on?

You're you're firing off tweets.

Do you know her age?

Yes, I do know her age.

I'm do I'm a fan.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know.

Like, so I went.

So I introduced myself and everything in the drivers mean

and she was laughing.

She's like, man, you're like by far the most confident guy here.

It's like, yeah, probably, you know, whatever.

And she's like, yeah, I was told you're the bad boy of NASCAR.

I was like, who said that?

She's like, I don't know.

You I was just told that's Carson and he's the bad boy of NASCAR.

And you got to talk to him.

I was like, well, you're talking.

Yeah, we're here.

I am here.

Here I am.

Yeah.

And so we started talking and whatever.

And so we're done and everything.

And she got me pretty good.

So I like saw her.

And so I like I walked over.

I was like, hey, I heard you're in the pace car.

And she's like, yeah, what does that mean?

I don't even know what that means.

What's the pay?

Like, what is that?

And I was like, you say, like, you know, like it's the car at the front.

You know, you'll be and she's just like, yeah, I know what it is.

Like, you know, whatever.

I was like, oh, OK.

And I was like, well, I actually qualified up front.

So I'll see you up there.

And so then I rolled up next door and I rolled up next door and she started waving.

She had her phone out and she started blowing me kisses.

I was like, yes, yes, dude.

Yes.

Um, and so we were waving and everything.

And then I just like having fun after that, you know, the tweets and stuff.

So, um, yeah.

All right.

I don't know.

I just think it's funny when you do it like publicly, you know,

everybody like, get a room, get a deal, get in the DMs.

It's like, nah, that's weird.

And then it's weird.

I agree.

Yeah.

It's a lot more funny and, you know, it's, it's funny to be flirtatious.

Well, you know, I do it for the fun of the game.

It scares me when it works.

Sounds good.

True.

It's true.

I do it for the love of the game.

I, all right.

Well, that's it.

Thank you, Tyler, for filling in for TJ.

Uh, and yeah, I like, I like this upgrade.

Hey, thanks.

You're, you're a lot more right on, on points and stuff.

I will say all circling back.

The, my favorite thing about TJ is, uh, going back to Disney.

His wife is our travel agent.

So, oh, yes, I can't talk too bad about that.

Yep.

Cause they'll, they'll cancel our plans.

So, but no, thank you to, thank you to Dale, Dirty Mo Media.

Everybody for, um, you know, considering me to fill in for, for

Dallas is, um, obviously I've been a fan of him for, you know,

basically my whole life.

So this is very cool.

And, uh, you know, thanks, Tyler, for, uh, be willing to step out of your

comfort zone and, um, talk for, you know, sometimes I know you don't do that often.

You maybe don't do that for a living.

Uh, but, uh, you know, I appreciate you coming on here and, uh, being vulnerable

and talking to the people and everything.

It was fun.

Yeah.

Appreciate it.

Thanks Travis.

Thanks everybody.

Yeah.

Thanks guys.

Yeah.

It's another wrap of, uh, this, this, this show.

I'm sure there's a end card with Dale or something or if not, is there?

Travis?

Yeah, there is.

Perfect.

All right.

That's it for me.

Okay.

Thanks.

Thanks again for Carson and Tyler for filling in and, uh, giving us a great show today.

I hope you guys enjoyed that.

Maybe it'll encourage Carson to, to drop in even more and, and take over some hosting

duties and give me an opportunity to take the family on some more vacations.

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chicane

overdrive

make him move you

refired

motor spun backwards

backfired

saving tires

tire wear

tire heat

sliding

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